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I'm leaving for now (Friday evening), only thought I would do
r/mildlyinteresting  this Thursday, probably won't be back on until Sunday night
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nice and positive you have (mostly) all been. I'm sorry to all of
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you that have ever lost a bike. I regret my past choices and
Gaming wish there was something more I could say. I'm very sorry.
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Sports Was linked to this thread by a friend last night.
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never anything like this.
I'll probably copy/paste from the other thread, but I figure I'll start
with some background.
I'm not exactly sure how I ended up with this life. I was basically a
normal American kid who was very shy and did well in school. My
best friend was basically a dirtbag and he made it seem cool to be
a dirtbag. I started off dropping him off at bikes to steal, then
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conversations. money and assumed far less risk so I saved my money so I could
get on that end of things.
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I considered myself small time but I was involved in the scene for
over 10 years. While my name was brought up in investigations I
was never charged with a crime related to this business and I
never "informed" on anyone. I quit when I felt the risk exceeded
the reward. Maybe it was the guilt, the shame, maybe I was just
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knew it I was painfully embarrassed inside because of the life I had
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that sickening feeling you have when you wake up to realize your
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baby has been stolen and I was responsible for it A LOT. Towards
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any day my door was going to be kicked in and I wanted to be
r/motorcycles  comfortable as possible in jail.
r/UnsolvedMysteries  I've been out of it all for 4-5 years and I still am trying to figure out
how I became that guy.
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I don't believe in a higher power, but for everything I got from that
life I've lost pretty much all of it. So maybe there is some sort of
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karma out there. I did use the income earned during that period to
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material things. I can't be mad, I certainly deserve this, as I write
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bedroom and I'm in my 30's. I have less than $500 to my name and
 Sports  1 job offer that's not so promising. The desire to just grab a few
Television bikes or even one is very strong, but I look at it like a drug addict.
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No one just has one more shot of heroin, ya know? This is my time
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breaking the rules just like everyone else.
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Had a lot of similar posts and messages, supersporsts or
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choppers, cafes, and bobbers get targeted, but as far as I'm
aware they are much further down the list. After that it's
pretty rare that a bike is stolen. Well, dirtbikes, but that's
more of an opportunistic jackass than a "professional."
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RECENT COMMUNITIES 1. What safety measures were the least effective, that
seem to be praised the most (eg, would you
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2. Have you ever looked at a bike and decided it just
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3. What is the number one thing you would recommend
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anything? What types are actually
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tremendousguilt OP · 10y ago
I posted in the other thread, let me copy/paste. EDIT -

the formatting of this forum is pissing me off! lol
basically you want it to appear to take a long time to

steal. $100 disc lock on rear wheel, $150 chain/lock
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combo through hard parts not chain and not wheels,
if it has to be a wheel put it through the rear one,
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and start taking part in Lojack is pretty good for recovering bikes from
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beginners, but I want to keep mine from being stolen in
the first place.
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copy/pasta below! As far as the first post is concerned
1. Mostly supersports. They are the most commonly
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crashed and generally the easiest to find (left 
outside in nice apartment complexes) Next would
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2. Never, ever, never never never, NEVER leave your
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one with a gated parking garage. The gated
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building in the nice part of a large city is the
r/motorcycles  number one place for bike thieves to go
"shopping." As far as passive devices go I like the
r/UnsolvedMysteries  NYC fughetaboutit chain/lock from Kryptonite, the
thicker of the two. It needs to go through
r/mildlyinteresting  something like a braced swingarm whenever
possible. If you absolutely have to put it through a
wheel put it through the rear wheel. It takes much
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lock will work well, again, rear wheel, locks on the
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Cheaper disc locks can be quietly, well, we'll leave it
 Sports  at that, cheap ones can be defeated in silence. Lo-
Television jack and Lo-Jack w/early warning are pretty good at
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recovering the bikes from amateurs and semi-pros,
 Celebrity  but someone who knows what they are doing will
remove the lojack system quickly after clearing the
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Crypto (surprisingly rare) will have somewhere to
  check/store/breakdown the bike that is rf shielded.
 More Topics  The problem with lo-jack is that it doesn't keep
someone from stealing the bike. Even if you get it
back in one piece without the police crashing into
your bike to catch the thief you'll still likely have a
broken upper triple, damage to the neck of your
frame (Steering lock), damage to your ignition,
damage to the tank lock, possible damage to the
tank itself (rareish) possible damage to the trunk
lock , and then your insurance company might fuck
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in the first place. So in addition to lo-jack you want
some sort of VISIBLE passive devices to make the
and start taking part in thief move on. The paging alarms are somewhat
conversations. effective, but they aren't linked to the police.
Removing electronic devices is obviously more of a
mental challenge than a physical one. The quality
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of the install is a huge factor here. Hide the lo-jack
or alarm in or under the airbox and all the wiring
within the factory looms and you'll have a good set
up. However, almost NO dealer tech is this 
thorough. It's not his bike, why would he go the
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3. I think bobbypeel covered the locks and chains
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well. Very few thieves are this thorough, of the
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across one like this, but I knew someone that had a
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45lb plate at the gym, and had replaceable
r/motorcycles  cryogenically hardened teeth. They cost several
hundred dollars. The high dollar chain lock sets
r/UnsolvedMysteries  $150+ are worth it. Even the high dollar braided
cable locks are good. They can be cut, but it's a
r/mildlyinteresting  pretty time consuming process.
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rough, but mechanically sound. Say grips are worn,
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and well-adjusted, tires worn hard on the edges,
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Sports lack of value isn't what I'm looking it. It would
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remind me of myself once upon a time. I think
 Television  that's probably all he's got, his whole world, it's not
pretty, but he rides the piss out of it. He gets a
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Crypto very very few stone cold guys that can sit there for an
  hour working on a bike. Most people will give it a few
 More Topics  seconds, maybe a couple minutes, and if they can't get it
they are gone. What is only seconds feels like an eternity
when your freedom and life are on the line. Quality disc
lock on the rear wheel, quality chain and lock, lockable
bike cover and theft coverage on your insurance. For me,
lo-jack isn't worth the cost. It's more expensive than
theft coverage and after a thief has had his way with the
bike I don't want it back. All can fit in a back pack and
aren't much of a hassle to carry. Never leave it outside
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are good like bobbypeel said. I always wondered what
was available in a marine application for something like
and start taking part in this. Something with a real burly chain/lock.
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If you're temporarily parked outside somewhere a good
little FREE anti-theft trick, bring a stubby flathead with
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they aren't riding anywhere. Of course if you do this
every night outside your apartment they'll just come
back with their own clutch lever. 
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there, jesus. Happens more often than you think. Also,
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don't leave your TITLE in the trunk, i've seen this too
often too. Steering locks aren't that hard to bypass, but
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they aren't THAT easy either. Sometimes you get the
freak one that doesn't want to break and you'll need to
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come back with a second person. In that time maybe the
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been unlocked the bike would be gone.
Again, if you park outside of an apartment and your bike
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near by to use as a garage. The thief is just going to wait
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come back to check. If someone tries and fails to get
 Gaming  your bike the same thing applies. Move it, they WILL be
back.
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Mirrory · 10y ago
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I'm no bike thief but I think about security through the

eyes of one... A lojack can be jammed if you know
anything about signal jamming. Even if you don't you
can find a jammer powerful enough to jam one.

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robcas65 · 10y ago

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What bikes did you like to target the most?
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What was the profit margin like?
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What, out of all the security options available (disc
locks, chains, alarms, a cover, lojack) would make you
say "fuck that i wont steal that bike"?
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Me personally, sportbikes, although Harleys paid better
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and those old-school guys in those "clubs" don't like to
mess with outsiders and they are the primary buyers for
r/motorcycles  the harley stuff. They were pretty intimidating and I
wasn't greedy enough to feel the need to step on their
toes.
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between 200 and 300% excluding Ducatis. They did
much better, a goldmine.
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Nothing stops someone who is determined, but the
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 Sports  that it's not a deterrent. If you put a "lojack" sticker on
the bike that's even worse. I assumed they all had it and
 Television  it was up to me to find it. In fact, when I didn't find it
Celebrity that's when I really got worried. If a nearly new bike
  didn't have it I was thinking "damn, this is a hell of an
 Business, Economics, a…  install, I can't find it anywhere, better open the air box
and pull up the throttle bodies!" You don't want the bike
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lock on the rear, quality chain and lock, and something
 More Topics  to make noise. All can be carried easily in a backpack.
The worst spot for bike theft is apartment complex
parking spots, parking garages, and detached garages
at apartment complexes. College "bike parking" places
are another that thieves like to target. Maybe mall
parking garages after that, but much further down. The
absolute worst is outside an apartment in a nice part of
town though. Avoid parking there and most of you will
be alright.
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kn0wph33r · 10y ago
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What types of bikes got targeted most often? I had a Buell,
and never worried about theft, because I thought no one
wanted them. Now I have a Kawasaki, and I worry about
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I can only speak for myself as it's not something that it's
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easy to find statistics on. Supersports are targeted most
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in. Or I should say it's what I targeted as a thief and
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still bought them after transitioning from thief to fence.
Towards the end I wanted to get in the harley market as
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It varies depending on yr/make/model/condition. About

10-12 years ago there was an out of state buyer we used
to crate bikes to that had the ability to create titles for
them who paid $3500 for near new 1000cc supersports.
1,000-1,500 is more typical for super sports. Harleys vary
quite a bit depending on model and options, from 1,000
for a basic late model sportster to several thousand for a
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highly optioned fat boy, road king etc.
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and start taking part in in front of a guys house on his lunch break in broad day
conversations. light, took a little longer than expected, he came out, we
ran back to the other bike hopped on and took off. He
didn't even chase us on his bike, I was surprised. He
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looked more shocked than anything. This was 10 or 11
years ago and I still remember the look on his face.
I've had passers by walk right past, it happened on the
very first bike I stole, some lady walked her dogs right
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passed us. There were two of us in riding gear, two
bikes, she didn't even look twice. We kept working and
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me into all this. He's getting some bike from an
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break the steering. He notices some guy watching him,
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walks right up to him and says "Hey man, can you give
me a hand, the handlebars on my bike are stuck and I'm
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bike and helps him break the steering lock. That guy has
some CRAZY stories, he was stone cold and willing to go
r/mildlyinteresting  way way too far. Probably why he's dead now.
Use? the bikes themselves. Even the slowest bike is

faster and more nimble than most cars.
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CAUGHT load bikes into trucks and vans. Your career will
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likely has a tracking system) that will outrun the police
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off then you damn sure can't find and remove lojack.
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truck or van for any length of time. He learned to wire
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When I was stealing them it was a part time deal. I had a

full time job and just did it here or there. Eventually
decided to save all the theft money and came up with
25k and started buying hot bikes. I spent a lot of money
to appear legitimate down the road. My goal was to
have a legit bike shop, but running a legitimate business
was a hell of a lot harder than I thought and took a lot
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all the overhead. Even now when 80k seems like a
tremendous amount of money it still isn't worth the risk
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So just give me an overview. Tell me how you start a chop
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take someone's bike. They sell to a guy such as yourself,
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r/UnsolvedMysteries  Well, for me, it was dumb luck. You had to know
someone on the inside and the only real buyers were
r/mildlyinteresting  established salvage yards or dealerships that sold used
bikes. When I started America was still using AOL dial-up
to connect to the internet.
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I was very cautious who I bought from. I was more
interested in dealing with the most professional thieves I
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Sports professionals. I knew others that weren't as concerned
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and bought just about anything from anyone.
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Depending on a few factors I generally paid between 1k-
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wrecked bike at auction and use the hot bike as a parts
 Business, Economics, a…  donor, part the rest. Or you can part the bike out from
Crypto the beginning. This can be done through some B2B
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you paid for the bike, there is at least a 200-300% mark
up. More if you're willing to sell the motor-kit, but I never
did. I parted the motors out too. There was plenty of
profit already and motors are traceable. No sense in
being overly greedy. I mostly did supersports, but I was
open to just about anything, there is a market for it all.
EDIT - I should add, LOTS of wrecked bikes go through

auction with clean titles and there is no real established
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"carfax" for bikes. MANY used bikes at local dealers are
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the nations largest used bike dealers dabble in stolen
motorcycles. Really took the wind out of my sails when I
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found out some of the big guys I aspired to be were just
larger operations of the same illegal bullshit I was doing.
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r/motorcycles  tremendousguilt OP · 10y ago
Well, basically all of my adult life I earned an income

from this industry and never really had a real job.
r/mildlyinteresting  So I don't have the resume or experience to earn the
kind of money I used to (which wasn't even all that
fantastic) and combine that with layoffs and money gets
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just layoffs, when I go to work somewhere, it seems like
 Gaming  they go out of business or into bankruptcy within 6 mos.
The last place I worked told me during the interview they
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Television they were shut down.
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 Business, Economics, a…  living room furniture, kitchen items, some tools, and
some electronics in a storage unit I couldn't pay for so I
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Yes, about 15k per year and a few track days annually.
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somewhere around 200K miles.
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on personal bikes. I'm not entirely sure if I've run on a
r/motorcycles  hot bike or not. Surely I've had to. I remember a time
when two of us doubled up and got a bike and were
r/UnsolvedMysteries  chased, but I wasn't on the hot bike. At a young age I
happened to get involved with a very veteran thief and
r/mildlyinteresting  as things would turn out he was the most professional
thief I would ever know. His professionalism rubbed off
on me.
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I was taught to never ride a hot bike anywhere you
Gaming didn't absolutely have to and to ride strictly by the letter
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money/freedom, it's not a bike, it's a job, and it's payday.
 Television  Generally you got the bike, rode it straight to your
destination, and broke it down.
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EDIT - I've never ridden a bike without a helmet. I've
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Thanks for doing this. I know its gotta be uncomfortable for

you to some degree to literally dive into a group of people
who hated every small bit of you when you were doing
this... I appreciate it.
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looking. Paint is crap, missing the side panels, but the
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your favorite communities etc... I'm looking to move soon and i'm eyeing apartments.
conversations. Am I just begging to have my bike stolen if I park it openly?
I know you've said yes several times, and you've
recommended a lot of gear, but 100% honestly, I'm just
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going to get the biggest thickest chain I can special order
off the internet.
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I should thank you guys. It's therapeutic. I lived a double
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with my closest friends, family, or women I've dated. I
traveled out of town recently, met a stranger, and told
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r/UnsolvedMysteries  shoulders. I'm only still friends with one other guy from
this life and he's out of it as well. He knows that it eats
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thought about writing something and sending it to
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publish it. I'm not to the point where I would point
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fingers, but sometimes I want to blow the lid off
Gaming everyone's dirty little secret. Sometimes I think that's a
  chicken shit thing to do. I really don't know. I've been the
 Sports  problem, I've been the scumbag piece of shit, I would
like to be part of the solution. Maybe it's just me being
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good, maybe I just want to wash the guilt off myself. I'm
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bobber. I'm not sure where you're at in the world, but
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enough to fit the bike in for $50/mo if you shop around.
I've done it at times when I didn't have a garage, but

given my life I'm probably overly paranoid about theft.
When you've done it so many times, bought them so
many times, and heard about all the crazy places they've
been stolen from you start to think the moment your
bike is out of your sight it's going to get stolen.
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sdecp · 10y ago
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systems? Did you worry about being tracked or how you
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systems, there were towards the end, but they weren't
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there, but apparently the company didn't have enough
r/motorcycles  capital to really get going and they went under.
r/UnsolvedMysteries  The biggest thing about defeating lojack or any other

electronic device is finding and removing it. When you
r/mildlyinteresting  take the bikes apart all the time you memorize what is
supposed to be there. Cheesy installs are the biggest
giveaway. Even if the boxes are well hidden OEMs aren't
leaving random wires running around and they damn
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sure don't use crimp style connectors.
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Sports anywhere and theft will be for the "professionals" only.
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Television Not that I knew lots of other guys that did this, it's a
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shadowy world, but as far as I know I was the only one
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depended on removing the systems.
As far as GPS goes I would be more weary as it's
 Crypto  certainly a hell of a lot more accurate than triangulated
More Topics radio singles, but anything that can be done can be
  undone.

As a guy who just wrecked his bike, bought it back, spent

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then had the wreck stolen from my driveway.....
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and it's people like you and stories like this that are why
I had to stop. I'm sorry man, damn, I really am.
Not that it makes you feel any better, but about 9 years
ago someone brought me a bike that was old even then
and in rough shape. The guy was hard up for dope
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money, I gave him very little for it, asked him where he
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I'm sure you want to direct your anger at someone but

does this guy really need to hear Fuck you over and over
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He did not personally steal your bike.
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he doesnt deserve the blame for the dickheads he left
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continuous hate put on you. Rideit asked for the AMA we
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that im sorry.
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2011 CBR 600RR
"Towards the end I would sleep in sweat pants and a

hoodie because I knew any day my door was going to be
kicked in and I wanted to be comfortable as possible in
jail."
Holy. This last sentence really spoke to me, glad you

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I know you said you dealt mainly with super sports but do
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list?
Not nearly as often, but almost everything is. Generally
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years old are the most common to go. After 7ish years
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 Crypto  If you have any more stories, I'd love to hear them. Great
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I kinda worry about stories, not from a law enforcement

perspective, but afraid that somehow someone from my
past might see this and figure out who it is. I want to
leave nearly all those people behind.
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Also, I joke about it with the one bud I have that also left
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your favorite communities the top. We feel like if we were to share them with
"normal" people they would think we are full of shit.
conversations.
I feel like my better stories are about motorcycling in
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the theft side of things. I don't really want it to seem like
bragging about any of that. Besides, for the most part it
was pretty uneventful. I spent many more years as the
buyer of hot bikes than the thief. Once I got on that end
it was usually just phone calls and lots of waiting. There

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them. I've done some very dumb things to help people I
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r/UnsolvedMysteries  EDIT - I will say I've never known any rush of adrenaline
like stealing a bike. I've jumped from planes, been in
r/mildlyinteresting  some hairy police chases, and nothing comes close.
FWIW I was always in much more fear of the owner than
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Forcing yourself to override that feeling is strange. You
Gaming feel very light, almost like you're behind yourself as you
  do it. Other guys claim it's not that bad, but it was for
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I have a 14 year old Triumph Speed Triple that I park
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locked (and I'll be getting a chain after having read your
advice). When I came home from work yesterday, the cover
had been partially removed and half-assedly put back on.
Is someone going to steal my bike soon? Is there even a

market for older bikes? I like to think that the potential thief
looked under the cover, said "not worth the effort" and
moved along.
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conversations. It's impossible for me to say what they thought or who
they were. If it had been a new GSXR 1000 they probably
would've got it, but it doesn't mean they don't have the
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location in their back pocket in case they come across a
buyer. In 2005 I would've been the guy that would've
bought that sort of bike. Most people couldn't seem to
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the European stuff, but I could :dunno: 
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You have theft coverage, right? If not get it ASAP. It's
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I'm not trying to scare you, but better safe than sorry.
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EDIT - almost forgot, nice bike, I like those! As for the
r/mildlyinteresting  market for older bikes, it depends, it generally takes
forever to sell the parts, but you can get a lot for them
depending on a few factors.
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2009 Ninja 250r
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I work a strange shift at a grocery store (2am-10am-ish
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Wednesday). I take my bike to work as much as possible
 Business, Economics, a…  and I park my bike in the parking lot (relatively close to the
Crypto entrance). I always lock my steering, but I have no other
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security measures. The parking lot is well lit and there is a
 More Topics  visible security camera on the side of the building. There is
usually nobody in the parking lot from when I get to work
until about 6am other than the occasional employee taking
a smoke break.
1. Under these conditions would you consider

attempting to steal the motorcycle?
2. What extra security measure would you recommend I
put in place to deter theft?
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I will say though that Ive been working there the entire
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and start taking part in 3) Also I don't know where you live, but in one of your posts
conversations. you mentioned used motorcycle dealers buying wrecked or
stolen bikes. Did you ever hear about or deal with WOW
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Some people would, will they let you park it right by the
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those?
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A good disc lock should do it. It's going to cost $100.

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Someone would need to have ice water in their veins to
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No, I mean, they're a huge used dealer that buys a lot of

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Not my part of the country. EDIT - meaning they buy a
lot at the NPA auction. EDIT2 - sorry, NPA is the dealer's
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bikes. They only have 4 locations and one is in Atlanta.
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hezex · 10y ago
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Television I'm 18 and strongly considering getting my own bike in

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several months around when college starts. Is theft really
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one because it will probably be stolen and I'll just lose the
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I think it depends on where you live. The larger the area

the more likely it is to get stolen. If we're talking a lone
college town that's over an hour from the nearest large
metro area you'll be fine. Get theft coverage to a liability
policy if you're worried about cost. It's cheap! Adding
collision is what's expensive on cycle policies.
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First off, have you taken the msf course? Do you have
any gear? Take the MSF and get a helmet, jacket, and
gloves. ALWAYS wear them. If you knew you were going
conversations. to crash the day you do you wouldn't have been on the
bike. Always gear up! Wear jeans and boots that go over
your ankles. I know it's tough when you're 18, but as
Create an account soon as funds permit get real riding pants and dedicated
riding boots. NEVER ride under the influence of alcohol,
seriously, NEVER. I've ridden around 200k miles and less
than 20 of them were under the influence of alcohol. I
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r/motorcycles  First of all, thank you for giving me the opportunity to

quote firefly: "I'm not so afraid of losing something that I
r/UnsolvedMysteries  won't try havin' it."
r/mildlyinteresting  There will always be thieves. If you are that scared then
don't get a high target bike like the HD or the
supersports. Get something a few years older. Put a disk
lock on it and a chain. And get the theft coverage with
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Sports got another one. Its would suck if it happened. However
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it is very worth having.
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Business, Economics, a… Jeebusify119 · 10y ago
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 Crypto  I have a 82 CB900C that I park at my apartment. It's a

covered spot under one of the buildings and is not visible
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through the front wheel. I also always use the steering lock.
In your opinion how secure is this?
Also thanks for the AMA!

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You mentioned in a reply that you ride the occasional track
day and you were mixed up with racers in the "business." 
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involved or connected. Mostly I'm wondering how many of
r/motorcycles  the guys I see at track days or races might secretly be
scumbags; because the track/race community strikes me as
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Keep in mind my experiences are anecdotal at best. I'm

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note taking here.
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I hate to say this, but when I got introduced to this in the
 Television  90's all the thieves were club racers at the least and my
main "educator" had a pro number. I was around long
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Business, Economics, a… started with the racer that stole a few bikes here and
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there to supplement the cost of racing and to have
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10 years ago stunt riding took off and these thrill
 More Topics  seekers were stealing to keep their bikes and all of their
buddies bikes on the road plus make a few bucks. There
would usually be one go to guy in the scene who was
kinda professional. After stunt riding became more
mainstream and products were invented to protect the
bikes during mishaps the stunter thief started
disappearing. Then came the rise of the internet and the
craigslist/ebay thief, more so craigslist than ebay. Now
anyone could start doing it and yesterdays coke dealer
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was now parting out bikes. There are lots of these types
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and start taking part in guys are anything but professional.
conversations.
Not that professionals aren't still out there, but there are
just more idiots doing it out of their own house or more
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typically an apartment.
I feel like fewer racers are involved in theft, but that just
might be in my little world. I'm sure my former life skews
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blank frames and bill of sale only going around the track.
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status that are for sale in those same circles.
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Crazy man, thanks for sharing everything. We all do things
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Television man up. (well, anonymously lol)
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Crypto In the 90's it was mostly stupid simple. Ignitions were

  very weak and a screwdriver would do the trick. If the
 More Topics  steering was unlocked you could start most bikes and
ride off with only a safety pin. Which is still the case for
some bikes.
In the 00's ignitions started becoming more

complicated. Instead of two wires you might have five,
dummy wires appeared, and some bikes require a
certain amount of voltage to the ECU in order to send
power to the fuel pump. What became popular was
either bringing an ignition with you or making your own
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the plugs migrated from being somewhere easy to reach
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to being underneath the airbox which of course meant
pulling up the tank and airbox if you wanted to "plug"
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wiring come back into fashion. Takes a little more
knowledge, but once you memorize it you don't even
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NONo443 · 10y ago
Speaking of lockable covers, as you said they help; what are
r/mildlyinteresting  your thoughts on lockable covers that are basically
enclosures (example of what I am talking about being from
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smart about your surrounding?
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I know things like this can only slow someone down, and
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better; but would this be a little bit better than some of the
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Television motorcycle)?
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i know you answered this on the other thread, but i was
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about theft toward Ducati motorcycles. thanks bud !
I don't want to give away too much, but if someone is

planning on riding off on a modern Ducati among other
things they'll need to show up with their own ECU.
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Have you considered teaming up with local law
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build some of your karma back up and feel better about it. I
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how they only have about a weeks time to spend half-assed
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r/UnsolvedMysteries  tremendousguilt OP · 10y ago
I've thought about it and it puts me in a weird spot.

r/mildlyinteresting  Many guys that were "working" when I was still are and
many of the big buyers were going long before I was
and still are. I know this sounds shitty, but I don't feel it's
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people I used to be right there with doing wrong. I may
 Gaming  have stopped, but I'm just as guilty as they are. Honestly,
a couple of these guys I would be afraid to go after.
 Sports  When you try to take away a man's livelihood, a man
Television with a family, a man already living outside the law, you're
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putting your life in danger. These aren't violent crimes,
 Celebrity  they aren't gun crimes, they aren't drug crimes, and they
don't carry long sentences. I know plenty of people who
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  a year. It's not worth losing my life over.
 More Topics  The biggest buyer I know of started over 20 years ago,
law enforcement has checked him out many times, and
it's rumored the FBI even investigated him, but he's still
going.
I feel like law enforcement suspects who the big players

are already and they just can't prove it. It's going to take
more than me saying "hey I knew this guy, he does this,
get him!" as that's just hearsay. I don't think I would be
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and start taking part in think that will happen more and more with all the
conversations. craigslist thieves popping up. A few years back I heard
about some kid stealing bikes and selling them to his
straight buddies in an upper class suburb. They all were
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riding them for months as if they owned them. The kid
doing it even put all kinds of mods on his stolen bike. He
ended up getting popped when he brought the bike into
a local shop to get serviced and the guy he stole it from 
WORKED THERE. S-M-R-T.

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Do you recommend a chain and disc lock because they're
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of lock types? Is there some combination of lock types that
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complete the job?
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For me, no overlap, but I can't speak for everyone. Every
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differently. In more than a decade I probably didn't meet
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Celebrity secretive and tight knit without a whole lot of
  information sharing. I would say people specialize, but
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Crypto Both disc locks and chains can be defeated. Cheap disc
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locks can be defeated quietly and not so obviously so
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by being none the wiser. While cheap chains can be cut
easily it still takes bolt cutters which is very obvious
when witnessed and makes a pretty loud POP when the
chain snaps. Quality disc locks generally can't be
defeated and you have to remove the rear rotor which
means slightly pulling out the rear axle. This takes time
and you would have to have brass balls to do this in
front of people. Quality chains are much more difficult to
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Western MA - 2013 Moto Guzzi V7 Stone, 1979 Honda CX500C [RIP]
My bike's got drums in the rear, so I can't use disc locks 
there. There's nothing convenient to chain it too in my lot.
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humanity to know that even those who've found
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Edit: extra question: on a lighter note, what is your favorite

kind of bike to ride, personally?
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Drums, what are you on, some CB from the 70's? I keed I
keed. I need to edit the first post. I feel like the
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Sports Harleys and jap/euro supersports followed distantly by
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I like bikes of all categories and makes, but I'm mainly a
 Celebrity  Honda guy. I don't really have a particular favorite in
terms of year/make/model. I'm a supersport guy and I
 Business, Economics, a…  like bikes that make me "work for it." I like twitchy hard
Crypto to ride at the limit sort of bikes. It just makes me think
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in the right hands. Like all the 2-stroke 500cc GP bikes I
read about growing up. So I like the 1st gen Kawasaki
ZX-10R 04/05 and the 02/03 Honda 954RR (or Fireblade
for you euro guys) as they both feel short, twitchy, and
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erbgerb · 10y ago
and start taking part in I built a cellphone app that texts me when my bike gets
conversations. moved and when the cell phone on the bike isn't paired on
bluetooth with the cell in my pocket and if I text it back the
Create an account phone back a certain message it will kill ignition and send
me gps coordinates every 10sec.
The phone is hidden in the headlight housing and the
wiring to cut the ignition is wrapped into the wiring harness
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at the headlight. How long would it take you to find a setup
like this? And would the bike "loosing" dying all of the
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average guy?
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That sounds very impressive. Sounds like a million dollar
r/UnsolvedMysteries  idea to me, patent it and run with it!
If the install is very clean it would take a long time to find

I would think. If the bike kept dying I would initially think
 Create Community my wiring is the culprit. I would check the wiring. Some
bikes require a certain voltage to the ecu in order to
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resistor. If it kept dying I would stop at the first place
 Gaming  somewhat out of sight and start checking the bike for
Sports devices. If I don't see anything in a couple of minutes I'm
  going to try to park it somewhere safe, put a cover on it,
 Television  and lock it up. I would come back later to check on it. If
it's gone it had tracking I couldn't find. If it's still there
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the problem is.
Thieves are all types. Some are willing to take all kinds of
 Crypto  foolish risks. Or foolish to me I suppose. To me the bikes
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they were. I think some guys might call someone with a
truck, trailer, or van to get them at that point, but with
the way tracking is now I wouldn't want to do that unless
it was to load it inside something shielded which almost
no one has. Even then if the truck couldn't be there in a
couple minutes I wouldn't risk it.
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phonein · 10y ago
That is genius. I would buy a system like that. Only
and start taking part in refined a bit obviously. How bulky is the phone inside the
conversations. headlight etc.? And distance for the bluetooth signal. but
genuinely, this sounds like a fantastic thing.
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Let me know if you ever decide to put such a setup on 
sale. fantastic idea.
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Sorry, I'm a little late to the party.

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Android or iOS? Did you use an old phone of yours, or a

r/motorcycles  burner phone? It sounds like it's all set up for SMS, or did
you use the cheapest carrier with a data plan?
I'd definitely buy something like this if it were a
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to install. Especially if it had something like "Find my
iPhone" functionality, but catered to bikes.
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Celebrity is naked
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You should consider writing a memoir or a book. You have
 Business, Economics, a…  good, clean, readable writing style and seem to have some
Crypto redeeming qualities. I'm not sure what the market or
  marketing would look like for such an endeavor, but know
 More Topics  that I really enjoyed reading your responses. I hope you get
your life on track -- I believe you can succeed.
On the other hand, fuck you. Shit. I thought about it, and
I've decided to take that back. I hope you make it and do
something positive for yourself and others. Peace to you.
A quick question: what did you major in when you were at

college?
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I've thought about it. I've actually heard someone
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how it can be an addiction and what lengths people will
go to in order to support their "addiction." Supposedly
the book isn't so fictitious but things were changed to
protect people. I haven't read it though, hell, I don't even
know if it really exists.
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experience, was deeper than I ever was, and was a
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professional racer.
r/motorcycles  I've thought about making a documentary too, but even
if I blurred faces and voices I don't think anyone would
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1. Have you hurt anybody physically while doing any
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while stealing the bike? Did you carry any weapons?
 Television  2. Have you been hurt in this process as well? Any
 Celebrity  stories where you were caught red-handed?
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 More Topics  1. Never hurt anyone, wouldn't go very far, and I

never carried a firearm. I suppose some of the
tools of the trade could be considered weapons.
Right around the time I switched from stealing
bikes to buying hot bikes I thought about carrying
pepper spray just in case. I wanted to run it by my
lawyer first to see if it would get me in more
trouble if caught, but got on the other end of the
industry before it came to that. Using a gun in the
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commission of a felony will get you a lot of time
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your favorite communities and it's harder to parole out. Not to mention you
and start taking part in might find yourself going from a "petty" property
conversations.
crime to some degree of murder. Definitely not
worth it. I would rather get caught and have the
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2. No, but I know a few guys that have. One got a
pretty good ass whipping from a few police officers
and woke up in the hospital. He doesn't totally
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remember 
tackled and cuffed in his gear including helmet.
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removed the helmet and gave him a good beating.
Didn't get the helmet back either, imagine it ended
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and he was beaten so bad that he didn't even
r/motorcycles  recognize the guy. Apparently these guys set up a
bike as a vigilante sort of deal and were just
r/UnsolvedMysteries  waiting for someone. He said he was just praying
the cops would show up. He said the three of them
r/mildlyinteresting  kicked and punched him until they were too tired
to do any more damage. Comes with the territory.
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Celebrity CalebWu · 10y ago
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I have a bike that's been in a pretty bad highway crash. All
 Business, Economics, a…  its plastics have been replaced with Carbon Fiber fairings.
Would this be more appealing to thieves or less? I figure it's
 Crypto  a sure sign that it's been down.
 More Topics  Generally speaking, are "stock" bikes more desirable than
custom or modified bikes?
It depends, I wanted common bikes. I used to hate it

when someone would try to sell me some low number
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limited edition or HIGHLY custom bike. "Great you're
trying to bring me something there are very few of in
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and it's highly identifiable as parts or a whole! Not only
conversations. am I not going to pay the premium you're asking I'm
willing to offer LESS."
Create an account The most common stuff is easiest to sell whole and
especially in parts. Although some guys would want
yours just to hang the carbon from the wall in the back
of their shop, garage, mancave, etc. and part the rest.
Stupid people would probably want to roll your trick 
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I can't believe people here are praising this thieving piece
r/motorcycles  of shit!
r/UnsolvedMysteries  He needs locking in a room and kicking within an inch of his

life every day for a year!
Thieving scumbag!
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CalebWu · 10y ago
 Gaming  Previously thieving* He no longer does this anymore. I
Sports for one think it's good to have "reformed" criminals give
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us an inside look on how the underground is run and
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This was the response I was expecting. I too think

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demon_Pig · 10y ago
You should write an in depth FAQ on how to avoid getting

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your bike stolen for this sub-reddit. I'm sure a lot of people
would appreciate it, and reading the comments, it seems
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conversations.

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I've thought about that before, just putting something
up on the web to be copy/pasted all over.
I would want it to be pretty comprehensive. There has
got to be a good way to protect the ignition wires.
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I've considered relocating the ignition on my next bike
and using the OEM ignition as a steering lock only with
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dummy wires. I'm sure in a few seconds any decent thief
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some people though. I would want it somewhere very
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r/mildlyinteresting  r6rider916 · 10y ago
 Create Community read thru most of this , look at the bright side hes out of
the game but theres alot more that are still doing this and
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what others have, some are just addicts who need $ to
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OPeacefulGirl · 10y ago
 Celebrity  First of all thank you for the change in life and
Business, Economics, a… willingness to speak to people on this topic. You've been
  such an inspiration to bike world to say the least...again,
 Crypto  thank you! My question is, I just got a brand new sport
touring bike and was wondering how they faired as for
 More Topics  as popularity on the bike thief list. I live in an apartment
and I have two Xena xx10 disc alarms for front & rear, an
OnGuard Beast chain w/padlock, and a bike cover. I keep
the bike chained to a pole.
bobbymcpresscot · 10y ago
JOIN REDDIT I was leaving work one day, took my car because I had to
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your favorite communities passengers, saw a cute little ninja 250 parked on the
and start taking part in opposite side of the parking lot, guy was in full gear
conversations. fiddling with it didn't pay him no mind. Was looking for a
song to play on the drive home, see the guy struggling with
Create an account the steering lock, once again didn't realize and said out
loud, "You would have better luck with a key." To which he
responded with a "Man why don't you mind your fucking
business." Now I have never met a person about to ride a
ninja250 to have such a shitty attitude, but that set off 
some alarms, took a picture of him, with my phone, locked
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who the asshole in the employee parking lot is messing
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with a Ninja 250, some new Merchandise Pickup guy
stopped dead in his tracks and asked what color it was.
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"Green with a tinted windshield with a white Eagle Globe
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seen anyone move, I followed, Apparently the would be
r/motorcycles  bike thief couldn't perform pushed the bike over slashed
both his tires and 3 of mine. I fucking hate myself for not
r/UnsolvedMysteries  being more suspicious, as well letting a rider start working
at the same store as me and not taking the time to say Hi to
r/mildlyinteresting  him.
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 Gaming  wow that's crazy! Did anything come of the picture of
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Unbelievable. I can't believe many of you praising this guy

for what he's doing.
You think that a little article on the internet is going to

cleanse you from all the wrong you've caused people. You
don't understand, and will never understand the anguish
you caused to so many people. I don't give a shit what you
have been through, everyone has problems. I could care
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know what kind of person you really are. Do us all a favour,
turn yourself in, make sure that the police know exactly
and start taking part in how much you have stolen and how much TAX PAYERS
conversations. dollars have been spent on scum like you. Spend some time
in jail, pay your fucking dues you ungrateful shit.
Create an account Once you have gone through the proper justice system and
served your time and paid back to the HUNDREDS of
people you stole from and the THOUSANDS of tax payers
dollars you burnt, and the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of
insurance dollars scammed. NO WONDER INSURANCE 
PRICES ARE SO FUCKING HIGH, because of arrogant
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and give back to the community. The day I see your name
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in the paper confessing to your wrongs is the day I will
thank you for what you provided.
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To me, this is all common fucking sense. You are not

r/motorcycles  providing anything to anyone.
r/UnsolvedMysteries  /blood BOILED
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been to someone with a past like mine you're missing
 Gaming  their point. They aren't praising me for the evil I've done.
They are happy for the help I'm providing now.
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Your post doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It doesn't
 Television  seem as if you've read the first post or many of the
Celebrity responses. I'm not sure what the rambling about tax
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payers has to do with anything. Individuals, policy
 Business, Economics, a…  holders, insurance companies, sure, tax dollars, not so
much. Which in my opinion taking from an individual is
 Crypto  much much worse than anything related to gov't
More Topics resources being used. Some guy somewhere, probably
  several, lost a bike he spent thousands on and didn't
have insurance coverage. That's FAR worse than the few
dollars paid to an officer that has to take the police
report. If you're going to be upset, be upset at that.
Honestly, I don't feel like it's me you're even upset with.
It seems like something else in your life isn't going well
and you don't know how to handle it so this has become
your outlet to direct your anger.
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your favorite communities can talk more. Send me a private message if you like.

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Complains about tax dollars being spent
Suggest jail time
Loldude.
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corporates for MILLIONS (imagine 200-300 million dollar
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1.5 million over 10 years time.
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r/mildlyinteresting  spectacle13 · 10y ago
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this is a joke, and the typical bs you hear from
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buzzwords for us. In america, we don't have a proper
 Gaming  justice system.....anywhere, what we have is a justice
Sports system bought and paid for with a worthless fiat
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currency (see "housing market collapses, brokers, banks
 Television  to blame, both get bailed out by U.S. Government".)
what this man did wasn't right, but get the fuck off your
 Celebrity  high horse. Insurance prices are high because
Business, Economics, a… corporations are greedy and INSURANCE IS REQUIRED
  BY LAW. i don't know if you know this or not, but the
 Crypto  laws of supply and demand dictate that if you make it
illegal not to possess something, and then don't
 More Topics  regulate the companies that sell it, there will be
tremendous greed. also, lastly as said below me, Jail
Time is no punishment, just a further burdon on
taxpayers <---oops, i didn't capitalize, hope people can
still read it.
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I personally would not go in personal garages at homes
or attached to apartments. In my state that changes the
charges dramatically. It gets worse if people are home,
still worse if a child is present, and even worse if any 
tools you're carrying are classified as weapons. If you're
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you could potentially be earning yourself a 20 year
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likely to be spotted. Sometimes people are followed, but
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known for having bikes outside which means
r/motorcycles  apartments, lofts colleges, shopping malls. They drive
through those places looking for bikes. If yours is hidden
r/UnsolvedMysteries  in your personal garage then it's less likely to be spotted.
r/mildlyinteresting  Garage doors are easy to get codes for or to break into. I
never knew anyone that broke into home garages, but I
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garages. I would still use anti-theft devices. I had a
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friend that only used his garage at this apartment for his
Gaming bikes and we put some eyehole bolts in the wall by the
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to questions that are similar to this but would you mind
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desirability, ease of theft, and potential deterrents?
And just FYI, while I am subscribed to this reddit, I was

linked to this thread from a friend on a web forum. You've
hopefully opened a lot of peoples' minds about motorcycle
security - I hope the encouragement you've received here
keeps you from going back to that life. Best of luck with a
job and stability.

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conversations.
I'm probably one of those people who would still find you
guilty if I were on the jury at your trial. But I really do
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owners not be victims of thief. I've read the entire page and
found it very informative. But I still don't think you've faced
an adequate amount of punishment for what you put your
victims through. 
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you've already consulted with a lawyer, but if I were you I
would confirm this to give myself piece of mind, if you
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hadn't already, because everything you've posted might
come back and bite you.
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 Create Community Dude you're a tool. I read this entire thread and everything
you've said is true. I had an 01 CBR 600F41 stolen in
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Virginia in June of 02. It was parked outside my apartment
in front of my car and covered. For some reason I didn't
 Gaming  have my disk lock on it that night.
 Sports  I awoke to a neighbor banging on my door, whom I didn't

Television know since I had just moved in 6 days before, asking if I
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owned a red bike. After I said yes, his reply was, 3 black
 Celebrity  dudes just jacked your shit...
 Business, Economics, a…  He said they picked up the bike and moved it carefully from
in front of my car, between the car parked next to it and
 Crypto  into the lot. They broke the steering head, plugged in their
More Topics own ignition, started it up and split. They dumped it a few
  blocks away because I already had police in the area
looking for it and they got scared. At the time, the PD had
never seen a bike thief plug in their own ignition, they were
very interested in that fact.
After I got it repaired, involving getting a new frame

imported from Japan (Thanks State Farm lol) I got a
Kryptonite NY Noose that I ran through the swingarm and
rear wheel and never had another issue.
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I'm military and a gun guy, let me catch your ass working
your favorite communities on my bike and you'll regret it. That tool in your hand may
and start taking part in be mistaken for a knife in the dark, now you're running out
conversations. of blood...
I'm glad you've turned a corner but if you fall back into old
Create an account ways I have no sympathy for you. Keep your shit together
and do something the right way. Good luck.
ETA: By the description the neighbor gave, it sounded like
my movers who had helped me unload the bike since it was
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previous duty station was.
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Speaking of LEOs not seeing thieves plug in their own
ignition. About 10 years ago one of my guys was
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questioned by the head of a task force for our region of
r/UnsolvedMysteries  the state. This man was the head of a task force for one
of the largest metro areas in the nation. I don't know
r/mildlyinteresting  what their budget was, but it HAD to be in the seven
figures for salaries alone. He said some things that were
 Create Community equally naive and worse. I couldn't believe it. It was as if
the man had no mechanical or basic electrical
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knowledge at all. One of his men (or perhaps he himself)
Gaming had no doubt witnessed a theft or attempted theft from
  what he was asking and none of them had any
 Sports  mechanical knowledge so they did some figuring of their
own I suppose. Sad to say, but we had a hell of a laugh
 Television  at the shit these guys were saying. At the time, from my
side of the fence it was good, but sort of disheartening
 Celebrity  to think as a citizen that someone that had no idea how
Business, Economics, a… any of this worked, someone so unqualified, could be
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the head of the regional bike theft task force. This thing
 Crypto  wasn't new either. It had been around a few years that I
had known of at the time and seemed to still be at step
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I had a friend that these guys followed for quite some

time. He had a great personality, he was a lunatic, and a
loose cannon. They would stake-out his place(s) and
rather than be concerned he would have fun with them.
He would pay for pizzas to be delivered to their vehicles
or sneak out of his place (he lived in a multi-level
townhouse, you could sneak out of one of the
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them sit their in their truck watching, waiting for him to
your favorite communities make a move, often for H-O-U-R-S, sometimes all night,
and start taking part in only for him to show up and give them a box of donuts.
conversations. He would send people out in his cars, he would wait for
them to follow, then he would leave on a bike or car
parked nearby. The task force would initiate a traffic stop
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and the driver might say "nope, I'm not him, here's my
ID, you just missed him, he was right behind me." I
always thought all the taunting was a bad idea, but he
never got tired of it. Nothing would convince him to 
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r/UnsolvedMysteries  Scblacksunshine · 10y ago
r/mildlyinteresting  I want to thank you for offering some insight into the whole
motorcycle theft world..while I still hate your kind and what
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seek redemption now and sometimes maybe it's late than
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never to make a better life for yourself. With that said, I
have couple of questions for you. Someone attempted to
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Sports some reason they didn't make it out the condo garage but
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questions are below.
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1.) What are the chance that they will come back and finish
 Business, Economics, a…  the job? I feel like my bike is still a sitting duck (until I can
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  at this point I fear that they might come back and bring
 More Topics  their own ECU to start the bike or use a van or flat bed
truck to haul the bike away (even though you already
mentioned chances of that happening is very slim since
most thieves will ride the bike away instead) You think they
will come back?
2.) Do you think the ECU stopped this asshole from taking
my bike? Still not sure why he removed the ignition switch,
maybe he thought he can wire in his own ignition?
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your favorite communities an amateur it might foil the attempt?
conversations. 4.) I went out and bought a Xena Alarm disc lock and 15mm
thick chain with OnGuard lock, unfortunately I can't use the
Xena Alarm lock in the rear wheel because ABS disc gets in
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the way so I have the disc lock in the front and the chain
through the back wheel and through the exhaust bend
(which will require a lot of work to unmount) I would love to
chain it to a pillar but the chain is not long enough. Do you
think that will be secure enough for now? Also thinking of

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1. I can't give you a "fantasy answer" and tell you they
r/mildlyinteresting  won't be back. Some guys get scared when they
botch one and others make sure to go get back
and get it. Sounds amateurish. Most thieves aren't
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Even the few that are, aren't capable of doing the
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ignition switch being gone is why it sounds like
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Television tried to start it the only way they knew how and
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Getting in/out of parking garages, apt garages, etc.
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ignition when you wire your own in. You break the
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plugging it into the harness or simply hardwiring
(hot wiring) it in. I've heard of guys that steal cars
dabbling with bikes and they usually use the "car
tools" which usually means loudly breaking the
lock cylinder out and going from there. Takes too
much time, makes too much noise, and from what
I've heard, doesn't have a high success rate.
3. Late model "chipped" Ducs, absolutely. In my
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rotors? You could purposely strip a rotor bolt
(which can still be removed, little big tougher) and
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most likely will not be able to remove the rotor. In
that case he's going to need to bring his own front
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r/motorcycles  Sheriff245 · 10y ago
r/UnsolvedMysteries  Interesting discussion here. A friend of a coworker has

been awakened at night by 2 thieves politely asking for the
r/mildlyinteresting  keys to his bike chain. Scary stuff.
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Are they stolen by the same guys that do street bikes?
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street bikes or quads. Mine are stored in my attached
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Television much as possible but sometimes I have to take them out to
  wash them. Any advice to help me sleep better at night?
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Wow, that's strange behavior.
Only experience with them is riding legal bikes at the

track. Never knew anyone to steal those. Every now and
then would hear about some teenagers that stole one
out of the back of someone else's truck, but that's it. The
garage sounds safest to me. I've had my trailer stolen
before. I started putting it on jack stands and removing
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i have to assume that from your history you are well-

acquainted with the people and inner-workings of your
local or regional crime circles. trolling anonymously via the
internet is one thing; what efforts are you making to ensure 
that the current and future activities you now so strongly
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r/mildlyinteresting  I'm not trolling anyone. The AMA was requested by a
member of reddit as linked in the first post, passed on to
me by a member here who thought this would be right
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can be twisted as trolling I don't know. Call me a
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fire, I don't care. Hell, I deserve that and worse, but I'm
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I understand what you are trying to do. Hoping helping

others will balance some of your karma. Thinking maybe
admitting your wrongs is the first step towards becoming a
better person.
In a way you are on the right track, it's a good start, but
LIVING the positive actions, from here on out, is the only
way to really redeem yourself. This means abstaining from
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dabble, do not do "one more just to get by", and do not
think that just admitting your guilt every so often clears
and start taking part in your conscience.. that's some Catholic shit lol (coming from
conversations. someone raised catholic, unfortunately).
Good for you for starting down that path, staying on it will
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people generally WANT to do good. I think that is the
kindness and positivity you are seeing from people. These
complete strangers really want to believe you, and that you
want to do good now. Who knows how many thousands(?) 
of people will read this thread, only a small number will

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about how you turned everything around and became a
good man.
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<3 -someone who did their time and turned their life
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AMA request by a reddit member. It was passed to me, I
 Sports  slept on it, decided to acquiesce.
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Celebrity are little things that seem like signs or tests. However,
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 Business, Economics, a…  sort of thing is bound to happen.
 Crypto  I've got 5 years "clean" so to speak. I think I'll be alright. I

was talking it out with a friend who also is done and he
 More Topics  said something like "XX years ago I just wanted one bike
to fix my track bike and look where that got me, it never
works like that." Really put things into perspective. Lol
he's gone from my mentor to my "sponsor." - life is
strange.
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Create an account to follow You mention a former co-conspirator is now your

your favorite communities "sponsor". It also occurs to me that this AMA feels a lot like
and start taking part in 'making amends' in a 12 step program. Your personal
conversations. choices are your own and I respect your privacy if you
prefer not to answer, but I'm just curious if you have/are
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 Home What is your opinion on hidden inline kill switches. I have

read of people hooking a cheap little toggle switch to their
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then hiding the switch somewhere convenient but out of
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sight. If anyone were to watch me start the bike just once
they would probably realize what was going on but if they
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Enterthenooch · 10y ago
This may have been asked before, I havent read through
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nice apartment complex and I ride a 2010 R6. But I have an
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truck. So I suppose if someone was really intuitive, they
 Celebrity  could follow me home after a ride and find out where I
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  my truck and presto...garage door remote. How common is
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concerned should bike owners who park in a garage be
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Also, are there any particular behaviors or procedures

exhibited by potential thieves that could be an early
warning sign? Do they typically drive certain types of
vehicles when scouting? Will they stop and get out to
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This may seem like a silly question, but my house is actually
raised up about 3 feet off the ground, due to the area.
Anyway, I actually park my bike up on the wraparound front
porch, maybe 10 feet from the door and hard to see from
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street. 
I have a big board that I lay across the steps, and
then after I ride up, I take the board inside. would
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around knows I'm always packing. But I usually don't do
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I really appreciate you doing this. It shows that you're
making an effort to repair the damage you did. If I ever see
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zacapa · 10y ago
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was in your previous life occupation tremendousguilt. Had
a good read through about 2/3 of all the forum posts so far
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Sports replies in it. Gonna read it to the end though ;-) Hope that
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from now on your life keeps positive karma and you
 Television  continue on your way with meaningful exploits both
motorcycle and life-enriching experiences to make it all the
 Celebrity  way into some semblance of normality while preserving
Business, Economics, a… your spirit of individuality. Way to go. strongs bru.
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Crypto Now to my personal experience - Forum related. Was a
  dumb kid in Germany, back in the '60's and left the big
 More Topics  wheel kiddies cycle that my grandfather had painstakingly
rebuilt from bits and pieces outside the apartment one
night and lo and behold - come next morning it was gone.
The disappointment at age 6 was overwhelming. Lesson #1
learnt, take it inside or lock it up proper! Fast Forward 30
years when i was living in Cape Town at the time and i used
to lock the airhead R80 to an old oak tree out in front of my
place of abode. Now the tree was strong as in 200years old
solid oak and so was the high tensile steel mega oversized
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with the result that i had many a restfull night not even
bothering to worry about what was left outside. This setup
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conversations. to work in time i forgot about the chain, did the full quick
pullaway at 5000rpm and planned to ramp of the pavement
as usual. Forgot about that high tensile steel chain dammit!
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Spent the next week stripping parts, taking gearbox and
actuating arm to specialist for remedial work and
aluminium welding etc. 2 days later and back on the road. 
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r/UnsolvedMysteries  bongsnotbombs · 10y ago
r/mildlyinteresting  I had a friend shot and killed while boosting bikes. He

doesn't steal bikes anymore. He was one of the best I have
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As I read your story I kind of felt pitty for you untill I
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awesome little honda cbr 600 rr with custom cartoon
 Celebrity  spongebob paint. And now all the hatred I have for people
Business, Economics, a… who steal or have stolen bikes comes bubbling back to the
  surface. It was something i saved every penny through
 Crypto  highschool to get and was my whole life. Im glad you
turned around but I would feel a bit better if every bike
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ZPK · 10y ago
Sorry for this resurrection, but this thread interest me

greatly.
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First off, I appreciate what you're doing. All of us have done
some bad things at one point in our lives and we all have to
live with it. Very few can quit like and keep off it as well.
conversations. Keep up the good work.
Secondly, I recently purchased a new P&J, and it's not really

Create an account a prime target for stealing to be honest (VFR1200F, pretty
rare sport tourer), but it is an expensive bike and I have no
other choice than to put it on the sidewalk.
You talked a lot about £100+ disk locks, I was wondering, as
you say you always rode it away rather than picking up the
bike, how did you attack disk locks? Was it with crude tools
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(hammer, pincer, screwdriver), picking it or other means?
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alarmed Detecto 8000 that only fits the front and one (a bit
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anchored to the wall, but would you say, as far as disk locks
r/motorcycles  go, these would do the job? They're the top stuff of Abus,
but maybe there's something else you'd recommend?
I really hope you can put your talents to use in some way,
r/mildlyinteresting  maybe become some sort of police advisor or better yet,
one for lock/security companies of some sort.
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 Gaming  r6ajd · 10y ago
 Sports  I've read this entire thread. It's very interesting to me as a

bike owner.
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Good for you for turning around but the damage is done
 Celebrity  and irreversible. Being that you are an educated man you
weren't doing this to put food on any table. It was pure
 Business, Economics, a…  greed. Shoulda taken out student loans like the rest of us.
Crypto Kids make ten dollars an hour (or less) and save for years to
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buy these bikes that bring them pure joy. These bikes are
 More Topics  their lives. And you stole them.
You're handle is right on the money. You have to live with

that guilt every day. You are being punished as we speak.
I've stolen one thing before (it wasn't even close to the
value of a bike) and I still wish I could take it back. Couldn't
imagine the weight you carry around...
That being said, I accept your apologies. Not as a victim of

your theft but as a motorcycle rider and owner in general.
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Thank you for this post and stay away from that shit no
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tremendousguilt, 
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property for quick cash, or to score some blow, but I can tell
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I also took notice at how profoundly you articulate what

r/motorcycles  you say, and how you say it. I believe you have a very bright
future if you keep clean, and stay strong. Take my advice or
r/UnsolvedMysteries  not, but if you truly aren't about the motorcycle theft
lifestyle any longer, maybe get involved with a local police
force. You sound like you know the game inside and out,
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operations, or whatever police do. Who knows, maybe
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force, I would definitely read a column in a magazine
 Gaming  written by you, so try and inquire about something like
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Television Lastly, I would like to thank you so much. The information
  you provided in this thread, and some of the other things
 Celebrity  people have added onto what you stated is a huge help as
a novice rider. I do not live on my own, and luckily have a
 Business, Economics, a…  garage, but when I go to college next year, I will definitely
be looking into purchasing a quality lock and rear disk lock.
 Crypto  I also hope you succeed in life, and can put this all behind
More Topics you. Just from how you sound, I would 100% respect you if I
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didn't know you were a bike thief.
Well there is my wall of text for you. Hope you can still be
able to see this, seeing as how this thread is over 3 months
old. But best of luck to ya mate.
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How old were you when you finished all of this?

I can understand
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Finished stealing them or operating the chop-shop?

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I briefly was the thief stealing them. I saved up about
r/UnsolvedMysteries  25k to start buying hot bikes and get on the other end of
the industry. It didn't take me long to figure out the shop
r/mildlyinteresting  owners we sold the bikes to made more money and
assumed less risk.
Shop owners tended to range from 30's to 60's with

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Sports 20's. It got sporadic as I got older and transitioned it into
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It was more amoral than anything, it's profit, not
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any ill will upon anyone.
At the peak of my decline when I was the busiest with
 Crypto  buying hot bikes I was removed from the actual thefts,
making the transitions into legitimacy, and it was almost
 More Topics  like nothing was wrong. I don't know how to explain
that, it just was, these guys are dropping off these parts,
I'm giving them this money, and that's business.

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I know I'm rather late to this party, but not a regular reddit
Create an account to follow user. I had a friend share this link with me and I just read
the thread in it's entirety. There's a lot of mixed feelings out
conversations. there. Yeah, you led a shitty life for a while and now you're
clean and paying with karma (if that exists). My fear of
losing my bike makes me hate you, but the knowledge and
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character. Futhermore, no one is an angel. I was a thief
when I was young. I'm not proud of it now, but I lined my
pockets everywhere I went, I canvased stores if I wanted
something harder to grab, etc. It was a shit thing to do and
I still can't believe it was me doing it. I came from a good

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candybar, but I can't say that feeling ever goes away, like
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After all that rambling, I wish you the best of luck. Stay
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clean. It's not easy, but it's worth it. My life could've gone a
r/UnsolvedMysteries  different way if I didn't check myself at a young age. If you
ever need to talk to someone, you can PM me.
Now I have a question: Obviously, you're not going to
reveal what city you were working in, but you mentioned it
being a big city, maybe it's relative. I'm in NYC. I own an old
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up the beamer and it has no steering lock. The guzzi, I'll put
 Gaming  a rear disk lock on sometimes. I don't live in a wealthy part
of the city (outer borough), usually just park on the street in
 Sports  front of my apt. never had a problem, except for someone
Television hitting my guzzi while it was parked. Anyway, Where would
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those bikes fall on your radar? Any interest? What about if
 Celebrity  has some custom work done? Is it really necessary to lock it
up if it's not a sought after bike? Thanks in advance and
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Seems that the best option is a visible deterrent. I wonder if

putting an improvised explosive device (mock-up) would
work. Some people are crazy enough to put something real
on there... would it be worth it to the thief to take that
chance?

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r/motorcycles  Posted by u/tremendousguilt 10 years ago

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tremendousguilt OP · 10y ago

I posted in the other thread, let me copy/paste. EDIT -

basically you want it to appear to take a long time to

 Create Community 4. Personally, if it's rashed up, looks cosmetically

FEEDS Also - LOCK YOUR FUCKING STEERING - DON'T LEAVE

I'm no bike thief but I think about security through the

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Sports How much would you get per bike?

It varies depending on yr/make/model/condition. About

Use? the bikes themselves. Even the slowest bike is

When I was stealing them it was a part time deal. I had a

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EDIT - I should add, LOTS of wrecked bikes go through

liberal-atheist · 10y ago

 Popular how did you loose all of your material things?

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r/motorcycles  tremendousguilt OP · 10y ago

Well, basically all of my adult life I earned an income

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Do you ride yourself?

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Thanks for doing this. I know its gotta be uncomfortable for

That being said, I have an 82 xs400j and its pretty ratty

 Business, Economics, a…  Don't get mad at me if something happens, but I think

I've done it at times when I didn't have a garage, but

I see you talking about LoJack and how comfortable you

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 Popular When I was involved in it there weren't really any GPS

r/UnsolvedMysteries  The biggest thing about defeating lojack or any other

 Gaming  Eventually this stuﬀ will become small enough to hide

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As a guy who just wrecked his bike, bought it back, spent

Create an account tremendousguilt OP · 10y ago

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I'm sure you want to direct your anger at someone but

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"Towards the end I would sleep in sweat pants and a

Holy. This last sentence really spoke to me, glad you

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tremendousguilt OP · 10y ago · edited 10y ago

I kinda worry about stories, not from a law enforcement

it was usually just phone calls and lots of waiting. There

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