vako darCia

sikvdilTan

dialogi

Tbilisi
2020
 avtorisgan

gamarjoba, pativcemulo mkiTxvelo,

am mesijis saSualebiT, me minda mogaxseno. rom wigni
`sikvdilTan dialogi~ aris, pirvel rigSi,Senive pirov­
nuli zrdisTvis, Senive cxovrebis xarisxis gaumjobe­
sebis da Senive realuri potencialis srulyofili ga­
movlinebisTvis Seqmnili.
es naSromi aris Cemi ara erT wliani dakvirvebebisa
da piradi gamocdilebis, mravalsaukunovani cnobili,
Tu ucnobi pirovnuli zrdis, filosofiuri da fsiqo­
logiuri wignebis nazavi, romelic ra Tqma unda, mor­
gebulia qarTul realobasTan.
anu, am wignSi Sen ar Segxvdeba, formula imisa, Tu
rogor unda gaxde miliarderi, an rogor unda daipyro
mTeli samyaro TiTis gaqneviT, am wignSi, Cemo kargo,
Sen ixilav zustad im formulebs,romlebic, miuxeda­
vad Seni axlandeli finansuri Tu mentaluri mdgoma­
reobisa, dagexmareba yvelaze umtkivneulo da advili
gziT, warmatebisken, sakuTari Tavis aRmoCenisken pir­
veli nabijebis gadadgmaSi.
da es yvelaferi, SefuTulia da warmodgenili sak­
maod saintereso, damaintrigebel formaSi.
pativcemulo mkiTxvelo, Cemi Txovna iqneba, am wig­
nSi mocemuli magaliTebi, ideebi Tu davalebebi, ga­
moiyeno Sens yoveldRiurobaSi.
gaiTvaliswine isic, rom ar aris aucilebeli yvela
maTgani gamoiyeno zustad ise, rogorc amas Cveni is­
toriis gmirebi akeTeben. Sen gaqvs sruli Tavisufleba
sakuTari kreativisa da inteleqtis gamoCenaSi. Sen ga­
qvs sruli Tavisufleba maTi ise gamoyenebisa, rogorc
SenTvis iqneba komfortuli.

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Vako
 anu, Tu wignSi aris naTqvami:
imisaTvis, rom gaxde disciplinirebuli, unda Seas­
rulo jer erTi moqmedeba, mere meore da mesame,
Sen SegiZlia adge da Seasrulo es moqmedebebi zus­
tad im mimdevrobiT, rogorc Sen mogesurveba.
aseve minda giTxra:
cxovreba imdenad mravalferovania, rom ar arsebobs
warmatebis erTaderTi da ganumeorebeli formula,
aqedan gamomdinare, me aviRe pasuxismgebloba, damewe­
ra iseTi wigni, romelic absoliturad yvela adamians
daexmareba sakuTari warmatebis formulis aRmoCenaSi.
anu, Tu Sen axla, am wams xar iseTi pirovneba, ro­
melsac arc ki warmoudgenia sakuTari Tavi warmatebul
biznesmenad, an momRerlad, an da Tundac msaxiobad,
merwmune, am wignSi mocemuli magaliTebis praqtika­
Si realizebiT da maTi regularuli gamoyenebiT, Sen
aucileblad SeZleb sakuTari warmatebuli momavlis
danaxvas, sakuTari potencialis warmoCenas da raRaTq­
ma unda, bednierebasTan miaxlovebas...
xolo rac Seexeba TviTon avtors, anu me,
is aris jerac axlad dabadebuli samotivacio pro­
eqti Multi-land-is da saqvelmoqmedo fondi `Sansi axal­
gazrdebs~-is damfuZnebeli, profesiiT mezRvauri da,
ubralod, sicocxleze da mudmivad yvelaferi axlis
Ziebaze, arabunebrivad Seyvarebuli adamiani.
da bolos:
pativcemulo mkiTxvelo, gisurveb bednierebas,
janmrTelobas, winslasa da xangrZliv, tkbili mogone­
bebiT aRsavse cxovrebas.
siyvaruliT
vako darCia

Vako
 me

Cemze bevri leqsi dawerila, uTvalavi raodenobis

legenda Tu zRapari Seqmnila. zogisTvis yvelaze saSi­
Si daundobeli da usamarTlo var, zogisTvis ki _ mwa­
re realobisgan gaqcevis saSualeba. rogoric ar unda
viyo, rogoradac ar unda aRmiqvamdeT, adre Tu gvian
yvelas mogakiTxavT!
daviwyoT Cems saqmianobaze saubari, me yovel dRe
axal-axal adamianebTan miwevs Sexvedra da yoveli maT­
gani Taviseburad unikaluria, vinc ar unda iyvnen isini,
asakisa da sqesis miuxedavad, maTi Tvisebebi, cxovrebis
stili, emociebi, gamocdileba, azrebi da sxva mravali
ram _ yvela am adamians ganumeorebel pirovnebad xdis.
maTi msgavsi adamiani arc warsulSi arsebobda da arc
momavalSi daibadeba, Tumca, miuxedavad aseTi gansxva­
vebisa, am xalxis umetesobas erTnairi problemebi da
siZneleebi awuxebs.
roca maTi dro modis, roca maT wasayvanad mivdi­
var, vcdilob, yvelasTan bolo dialogi gavmarTo da
raRac saintereso azrebi daviWiro.
Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, dRes Seni cxovreba Seicvleba.
me minda mogiyve Cemi erT-erTi samuSao dRis Sesaxeb,
romelmac samudamod Secvala mTeli Cemi warmodgena
kacobriobaze, me minda mogiyve mamakacze, romelTanac
warmoudgenlad saintereso dialogi gamarTva momiwia.

Vako
 jeikobi

erT Cveulebriv dRes, Cems msxverplTa siasTan mu­

Saobisas, wavawydi Zalian ucnaur da saintereso pirov­
nebas.
saxeli: jeikobi.
gvari: edisoni.
asaki: 77 weli.
damatebiTi informacia:
multi miliarderi, fleiboi, biznesmeni, qvelmoqme­
di, oratori.
mosasxami yovelgvari enTuziazmis gareSe Cavicvi,
msxverplTa sia marcxena xelSi daviWire, marjvenaSi ki
_ Cemi sayvareli culi. wami ar iyo gasuli, rom jeiko­
bis sasaxlis karebTan aRmovCndi.
SigniT Sesuls, sakmaod iSviaTi sanaxaoba damxvda; es
iyo Zalian grZeli derefani, romlis marjvena da mar­
cxena mxares, mTel sigrZeze, nair-nairi wignebi elaga.
darwmunebuli var, rom mxolod am derefanSi 1000-ze
meti wigni iyo da warmomidgenia sxva oTaxebSi kidev
ramdeni iqneboda, es iyo namdvilad didebuli da gu­
lis amaCuyebeli sanaxaoba.
derefnis dasasruls jeikobis saZinebeli oTaxis
karsac mivageni da iq Sesuls loginze Rrma ZilSi myo­
fi jeikobi damxvda, simarTle giTxraT, Tavisi asakis­
Tvis SesaniSnavad gamoiyureboda, es 77 wlis kaci mSve­
nieri fizikuri monacemebiT gamoirCeoda, garegnobiT
ki jerac axalgazrda 40-45 wlis mamakacs waagavda, gr­
Zeli Savi TmebiT da lamazi saxis nakvTebiT.
mivuaxlovdi Tu ara, gamoiRviZa, auCqareblad gaaxi­
la Tvalebi, Semdeg ki RimiliT savse saxiT momesalma.
_ vicodi, rom momakiTxavdi.
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Vako
 mJReri, Tavdajerebuli, uSiSari xma hqonda, Zalian
iSviaTia, ase rom vinme mxvdebodes; umravlesobas eSi­
nia. isini tirian, ganicdian sakuTari sicocxlis dasas­
ruls da mavedrebeli TvalebiT Semomcqerian. jeikobi
ki aSkarad mzad iyo CemTan Sesaxvedrad.
me mas seriozuli saxiT mkacrad Sevxede da vTxove,
ukan gamomyoloda, razec sakmaod tkbilad naTqvami,
ucnauri pasuxis gageba momiwia.
_ SemiZlia wamosvlamde Cemi istoria mogiyve?
TviTon, TviTon mTavazobs! ase jer ar yofila.
_ jeikob, gTxov ukan gamomyve da tpirdebi, gzaSi
Sens ambavs didi siamovnebiT movismen.
_ gzaSi? ara! me mxolod am mSvenier, wignebiT, naxa­
tebiTa da siyvaruliT savse sasaxleSi minda gesaubro.
is fexze wamodga, karadas miuaxlovda da pirveli
ujra gamoaRo.
ujra savse iyo lamazi da kargad movlili dRiure­
biT.
usityvod erT-erTi maTgani amoiRo da ulamazesi
dizainis buxris win, tyavis taxtze, Camojda.
_ gTxov, dajeqi, ubralod dajeqi da momismine. dRes
Sen gaigeb, Tu rogor Sevcvale me Cemive cxovreba.
cnobismoyvareobiT aRtacebuli meore taxtze Camo­
vjeqi da buxris siTboTi nasiamovnebi, grZeli da sain­
tereso dialogisTvis movemzade.
_ daiwye jeikob dros gavufrTxildeT!
_ dros, yvelaferi zustad droze fiqriT daiwyo. 22
wlisa viyavi, roca droze pirvelad davfiqrdi, kidev
ramdeni damrCa? dedas? an mamas? kidev ramden xans Sev­
Zleb Ramis caze, mTvaris danaxvas? mzis SuqiT datkbo­
bas da dedis Rimilis yurebas? kidev 20 weli? Tu 60?
maSin gaviazre, rom bevri ar mqonda darCenili, maSin

Vako
 gaviazre, rom me, ori skolidan gamogdebuli, univer­
sitetidan wamosuli biWi, sakmaod karg momavals vxeda­
vdi sakuTar warmodgenebSi, da es, maSin roca vmuSaob­
di restoranSi erT Cveulebriv mimtanad, dedis nayidi
tansacmliT davdiodi da mamis naCuqari manqaniT `vma­
riaJobdi~. Raribi namdvilad ar viyavi, saWmel-sasmeli
cxovrebaSi arasdros ar momklebia, bavSvobaSi ki Cems
samegobro wreSi yvelaze meti saTamaSo me mqonda, arc
gogoebisgan ar maklda yuradReba da mudmivad yvela
kompaniis suli da gulic ki viyavi, SeiZleba iTqvas,
rom idealuri cxovrebiT vcxovrobdi, Tumca realu­
rad erTi ganebivrebuli da kompleqsebiT savse bavSvi
viyavi. im dRes, roca droze pirvelad da seriozulad
davfiqrdi, Cems mSoblebs ukve uWirdaT fulis Sovna
da Cemi rCena, miuxedavad amisa, me mainc vardisfer to­
nebSi warmomedgina sakuTari momavali.
droTa ganmavlobaSi Cemi da Cemi mSoblebis finansu­
ri mdgomareoba sul ufro da ufro uaresdeboda, me
ki mainc imedianad viyavi, Tumca es ukeTesi cxovreba
ara da ar modioda, da ai erTxelac rogorc iqna, mi­
vxvdi, rom ukeTesi dro Cems cxovrebaSi TavisiT ar
dadgeboda, mivxvdi, rom Cems mSoblebs metis gakeTeba
fizikurad aRar SeeZloT, me ki restoranSi muSaobiT,
sxvaze msaxurebiT sakuTar cxovrebas gverdiT vdeb da
sakuTar dros, sxvisi ocnebebis asrulebaSi vxarjav,
da ai zustad maSin gadavwyvite sakuTari cxovreba Se­
mecvala.
_ jeikob, amas Zalian cota Tu mixvdeba. xalxi mu­
dam imis fiqrSia Tu rogor gaiyvanon dro, samsaxurSi
jdomisas, kvira dRes elodebian, raTa didxans daiZi­
non; skolis moswavle universitetSi swavlaze ocne­
bobs, studenti _ swavlis dasrulebasa da samsaxuris

Vako
 dawyebaze, zrdasruli _ pensiaze gasvlaze, egeb maSin
mainc davisvenoo fiqrobs, jeikob, xvdebi, risi Tqma
minda?
_ ki, vxvdebi. yvela maTgani erT Zalian did Secdo­
mas uSvebs. maT hgoniaT, rom cxovreba sadRac moma­
valSia da ar ician, rom cxovreba realurad axla da
am wams midis.
_ ki, jeikob, xalxma axlandeliT cxovreba ar icis
da, am arcodnis gamo, mTel Zvirfas dros kargaven.
_ dro yvelaze mniSvnelovani da yvelaze didi saCu­
qaria, rasac samyaro gvTavazobs.
me jer kidev maSin, 22 wlis asakSi daviwye imaze
fiqri Tu ramdenad unikaluria Cvens irgvliv yvela­
feri, Tu ramdeni ram unda damTxveuliyo samyaroSi
imisTvis, rom Cven Tvali gagvexila da am mSvenieri,
imavdrouladlamazi da gasaocari cxovrebis xibli
SegvegrZno.
erTaderTi, rac Cven, realurad gagvaCnia es aris
dro.
sicocxle-droa.
Cveni erTaderTi da mSvenieri Svili?
_ isic droa.
dila Tu Rame, SuadRe Tu saRamo-yvelaferi, rac
Cven irgvliv aris-isev da isev droa.
es codna imdenad elementaruli, imdenad advili da
xelmisawvdomia, rom umravlesobisTvis aranair faseu­
lobas ar warmoadgens. realurad is, rac yvela ada­
mians gaaCnia, is, rac yvelas erTnairad aqvs, umravle­
sobisTvis ubralod sityvaa da meti araferi.
yvela adamians Cemo kargo dRe-RameSi 24 saaTi aqvs
da mxolod isini wyveten, Tu rogor gamoiyeneben am
dros.

Vako
 jeikobs saubari Sevawyvetine da erTi ambis moyolas
Sevudeqi;
_ RamiT mivakiTxe, 102 wlis iyo, qalbatoni, romel­
sac etyoboda, rom sakmaod bevri gamoiara Tavis da be­
vri rame momswrec gaxda, bevri tkivili da sixarulis
mowmed qceuliyo, Tumca miuxedavad asakisa, is CemTan
SexvedrisTvis mzad sulac ar iyo. ar maxsovs zustad,
reebs miyveboda, magram arasdros damaviwydeba misi
bolo Txovna:
`gTxov kidev 15 wuTi maCuqe~.
man 102 weli icxovra da kidev 15 wuTs mevedreboda!
xvdebi, risi Tqma minda?
_ ki, is qalbatoni zustad maSin mixvda, Tu ramdenad
mniSvnelovania cxovrebis TiToeuli wuTic ki.
jeikobis pasuxis Semdeg, ramdenime xans orive Cumad,
uxmod vijeqiT da buxarSi cecxlis als SevscqerodiT.
jeikobi maleve fexze wamodga, buxarSi SeSa daamata
saubari ganagrZo.
_ es cecxlic, simarTle giTxra, Cvena gvgavs, SeSa
Tu ar daamate, Tu ar Seavse, maleve Caqreba, zustad
ise rogorc Cvven. Tu swavlas SevwyvetT, Tu axals
vuaryofT, Tu gavCerdebiT movkvdebiT.
_ yvelaferi rac ar moZraobs mkvdaria!
adamiani, romelic droSi umoqmedod da winwausvle­
lad cxovrobs, mkvdaria jeikob!
Cven TiTqos erT talRaze vazrovnebdiT, TiTqos
raRac uxilavi ZafebiT viyaviT SeerTebulni da mudmi­
vad erT saerTo daskvnamde mivdiodiT.
_ mTeli Cemi cxovrebis filosofia, drois, TiTo
wuTis dafasebaze aris agebuli.
me Cemo kargo, Cemi pirovnuli zrdis leqciebiT mra­
vali qveyana gamoviare da Zalian bevri adamianis cxo­

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Vako
 vreba Sevcvale; me gamovimuSave warmatebis formula,
romlis daxmarebiT, romlis yoveldRiurad gamoyene­
biT yvela adamiani, ganurCevlad erovnebisa, sqesisa,
finansuri Tu mentaluri mdgomareobisa, radikalurad
Secvlis sakuTar cxovrebas.
imdenad boxi mtkice iyo warmoTqmuli es sityvebi,
rom mis TavdajerebulobaSi eWvs veravin Seitanda.
_ da risgan Sedgeba es formula? miTxari jeikob!
vkiTxe me da interesiTa da intrigiT savsem, mis pa­
suxs davelode.
eh, babilonis arsebobis Semdeg, aseTi dialogi ar
mqonia. iciT ra Znelia arsebobde zustad imden xans,
ramdensac sicocxle arsebobs, da amave dros ramis in­
teresi gagaCndes.

miznebi

_ miznebisgan.
_ miznebisgan?
ise warmoTqva jeikobma, TiTqos yvelaferi am erTi
sityviT unda gamego.
_ im yvelaze mTavari saCuqris (drois) progresulad
gamoyeneba mxolod miznebis dasaxviT da Sesabamisad
maTi SesrulebiT aris SesaZlebeli.
Cven Soris 5 wamiani pauza Camovarda, ar vici in­
trigis momatebisTvis dadumda jeikobi, Tu, ubralod
azrebis dalagebas cdilobda.
_ jeikob, rogor Tu miznebi, rogor Tu maTi dasaxva
da Sesruleba? simarTle giTxra, jerac gaugebaria.

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Vako
 _ Cven yvela bavSvobidanve, miznis dasaxvas vswavlo­
bT, da Semdgom maT SerulebisTvis vibrZviT. Cven xom,
skolaSi swavlisas, didxans da dauzareblad vfiqrobT
sakuTar momavalze. sakmaod gaazrebulad virCevT mo­
maval profesias, winaswar viciT, romel universitet­
Si unda CavabaroT, an sad unda vimuSaoT. mokled, Cven
winaswar viciT, Tu rogor unda vicxovroT.
jeikobma dRiuri gadaSala, gamomiwoda da pirvelive
gverdze, raRac 6=punqtiani sia damanaxa.

1) gavixexo kbilebi +
2) davibano +
3) wavide samsaxurSi +
4) gavakeTo presis 20 varjiSi +
5) movrCe samuSaos +
6) vWamo saWmeli +

ramodenime wuTs am sias davyurebdi da, simarTle

giTxraT verafersac ver vgebulobdi, vcdilobdi, mTe­
li guliT vcdilobdi, gamego Tu ras niSnavda es sia,
magram faqtia, rom Cemi axali megobris gareSe, zust
pasuxs verc verasodes miviRebdi.
jeikobi taxtidan wamodga, isev dRiurebis karadas
miuaxlovda da axla ukve sxva Tarodan kidev erTi
dRiuri gamoiRo.
_ iqamde, sanam am siis mniSvnelobas agixsni, sxvac
unda gaCveno.
man es meore dRiuri gadaSala da momawoda.
aq ukve sakmaod grZeli da kidev ufro ucnauri siis
momswred viqeci.

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Vako
 1) virbino 6 km. +
2) vivarjiSo (presi,zurgi) +
3) ioga gavakeTo +
4) meditacia gavakeTo +
5) afirmacia gavakeTo +
6) creative-game +
7) wigni davwero +
6) 2 axali idea movifiqro +
7) yulaba Sevavso.
8) gamomuSavebuli fulis 10%, pirvel rigSi, gada­
vuxado sakuTar Tavs +
9) wigns movusmino 2 saaTs +
10) grafikul dizainze vivarjiSo +
11) marjvena xeliT weraze vivarjiSo +
12) TanamSromlebi Sevaqo +
13) vizualizacia gavakeTo +
14) davwero 10 ram, risi madlobelic var dRevande­
li dRisagan +
15) dRis analizi Cavataro +

axali sia aSkarad bevrad ufro azriani da grZeli

Canda.
_ jeikob, iqneb gamagebino, ras niSnavs es yvelaferi?
ukve SeSfoTebulma da gaRizianebulma vkiTxe.
_ viski Tu burboni?
_ ra viski, Tu burboni jeikob?!
ukve gabrazebulma vkiTxe, razec wynari da auCqare­
beli pasuxic miviRe;
_ romels miirTmev?
_ ubralod wyals, jeikob, he, gaagrZele axla moyo­
la, ras niSnavs es yvelaferi?

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Vako
 is fexze wamodga cota xans, raRac ifucfuca da
ukve ori savse WiqiT xelSi buxars daubrunda; erTSi
wyali esxa, romelic me momarTva, meoreSi ki _ rZe,
is isev taxtze Camojda da sruliad auCqareblad,ise
TiTqos aravin elodos misgan pasuxs,am rZiT savse Wi­
qis daclas Seudga, erTi, meore, mesame ylupi da ukve
rZisgan gaTeTrebuli ulvaSebiT saubari ganagrZo:
_ 6 mizani yovel dRe, 6 uadvilesi moqmedeba, rome­
lic Secvlis absoliturad yvela adamianis cxovrebas.
aq idea imaSia, rom am patara, yoveldRiuri miznebis
SesrulebiT Cven SevZlebT did da Zalian mniSvnelovan
miznebamde miRwevas.
_ jeikob jer cota gaugebaria. anu Sen ginda miTxra,
rom yoveldRe 6 miznis Sesrulebas SeuZlia daexmaros,
Tundac usaxlkaro adamians? imas, visac arc saWmlis
fuli aqvs, arc nebisyofa da arc situaciis gamoswo­
rebis imedi?
_ diax.
simarTle giTxraT, jeikobis aseTi Tavdajerebulo­
biT gaognebuli davrCi. bolomde me TviTon ar mjero­
da imis,rasac is meubneboda Tumca mainc vTxove sauba­
ri ganegrZo da kidev meti ram moeyola CemTvis.
_ 6 mizani dReSi, es aris umSvenieresi saSualeba Cve­
ni drois sworad gamoyenebisTvis. da yvela vinc am 6
miznis praqtikas gadis, valdebulia etapobrivad Seas­
rulos raRac konkretuli moqmedebebi.

pirvel rigSi Semsrulebelma (mkiTxvelma) unda Sei­

Zinos dRiuri da cxadia kalamic. dRiuri, es aris uni­
kaluri instrumenti, romlis daxmarebiT Cven Tavi­
suflad SegviZlia vmarToT sakuTari cxovreba, dro,
miznebi da sxva mravali ram.

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Vako
 dRiuris meSveobiT SesaZlebelia genialuri idee­
bi movifiqreba, miznebis dasaxva, gegmebis da azrebis
sworad dalageba, xolo rac Seexeba Cven konkretul
situacias, mogviwevs dRiuris sworad Sevsebis Seswa­
vlac ki. simarTle giTxra dRiuris mniSvneloba bevrma
adamianma ar icis, xolo dRiuris sworad gamoyeneba ki
mxolod erTeulebma Tu ician.
dRiuris gamoyenebisas yvelaze xSir Secdomad Sei­
Zleba CaiTvalos
a) parazituli azrebis Cawera (parazitulia yvela is
azri, romelic energias, Zalas da motivacias gvarTme­
vs). magaliTad: `dRes samsaxurSi wasvla ar minda~. es
winadadeba winaswar gvwiravs imisTvis, rom samsaxurSi
sakmaod uxalisod da uunarod vigrZnoT Tavi, amgva­
ri azrebiT, amgvari winadadebis dRiurSi CaweriT, Cven
avtomaturad vklavT yvela im axal SesaZleblobas,
romlebsac samsaxuri momavalSi mogvcems.
da Tu Cven dRiurSi CavwerT; `me minda samsaxurSi wa­
svla~. amiT Cven miviRebT am isedac gardauval faqts,
(anu samsaxurSi wasvlis valdebulebas) da amave dros
ase dadebiTad damuxtuli winadadebis saSualebiT av­
tomaturad SevZlebT samsaxursa da sakuTar valdebu­
lebebs meti enTuziazmiT movekidoT, rac sabolood
gazrdis Cvens efeqturobas, pozitiur azrovnebas, mo­
gvmatebs Tavdajerebulobas sakuTar SesaZleblobeb­
Si, es ki momavalSi uzrunvelyofs Cvensave karierul
winsvlas.
_ geTanxmebi, jeikob. saerTod yvela warmatebuli
xalxi, visTan Sexvedrac momiwia, dRiuriT marTavda
sakuTar cxovrebas. da plius amas Cven unda vicodeT
is, rom cxovrebis da Cveni realobis kanonia: Tu ada­
miani rame erT Tvisebas aumjobesebs, mas pararelu­

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Vako
 rad sxva danarCeni Tvisebebis gaumjobesebac mihyveba.
magaliTad: Tu dilaobiT sirbils daiwyeb, janmrTe­
lobis matebasTan erTad, lamazi tanis dayenebis Se­
saZleblobas miiReb, zedmet wonas moiSoreb, nebisyo­
fas ganimtkiceb da kidev mraval sxva dadebiT efeqts
miiReb.
anu me imis Tqma minda, rom dRiuris sworad Sevse­
bisa da gamoyenebis SemTxvevaSi, adamians avtomaturad
gamoumuSavdeba kidev mravali sxva pliusi, romlebic
raTqmaunda yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi gamoadgeba.
_ modi, axla Cvens formulas davubrundeT. mokled,
dRiurSi yoveldRe viwerT 6 mizans, romlebic Caweris
momdevno dRes unda iyos Sesrulebuli. sul Tavidan
miznebis masStabs mniSvneloba ara aqvs _ miTxari, ra
azri aqvs iseTi miznis Caweras, rasac realurad ver ga­
vakeTebT, ara? anu, Tu Zilis moyvaruli adamiani xar,
iRviZeb dRis 2 saaTze, da am dros dRiurSi Cawer: (ga­
viRviZo dilis 5 saaTze) am mizans, ubralod, ver Seas­
ruleb,an, ha da ha, 1 da 2 dRis ganmavlobaSi Tu SeZleb
mis realizebas.
Cemi rCeva iqneba, pirveli 21 dRis ganmavlobaSi, ada­
mianma, ubralod rutinuli miznebi Caiweros, is, rasac
isedac yovel dRe akeTebs, magaliTad, kbilis gamoxex­
va,Sxapis miReba da a.S.
aq mTavari isaa, rom Sen SeZlo sruliad axali una­
ris (miznebis Cawera-Sesrulebis) gamomuSaveba da zus­
tad amitom mogiwevs 21 dRis ganmavlobaSi elementa­
rul miznebTan muSaoba. gasagebia xo rasac vambob?
_ 21 dRe?
_ diax. ukve sakmaod didi xania cnobilia, rom axali
Cvevis Camoyalibebas 21 dRe sWirdeba, xolo mis gamya­
rebas 90.

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Vako
 _ anu Sen ginda Tqva, rom Tuki raRacas 21 dRis
ganmavlobaSi gavakeTeb, es moqmedeba CvevaSi gadamiva
da Semdegi 90 dRis ganmavlobaSi Cemi cxovrebis nawi­
lad iqceva?
_ WeSmaritad!
_ kargi, modi warmovidginoT, rom me ukve 21 dRea,
rac am rutinul miznebs viwer da vasruleb, Semdeg ra
xdeba?
_ Sen gamogimuSavdeba miznebis Cawera-Sesrulebis
Cveva, rac momavalSi kidev ufro seriozuli miznebis
dasaxva-realizebis SesaZleblobas mogcems.
_ seriozuli miznebis, anu?
_ magaliTad, ucxo enis Seswavlisa, aba mipasuxe, ra
aris saWiro imisTvis, rom adamianma ucxo ena Seiswa­
vlos?
_ mm! ubralod, unda daiwyo da regularulad ime­
cadino.
_ ki egrea, Tumca umetesoba CvenTagani ubralod
fiqrobs raime moqmedebis dawyebaze, magaliTad ucxo
enis Seswavlaze, da arc ki cdilobs am saqmis realurad
wamowyebas, Tumca arsebobs iseTi xalxic, vinc realu­
rad advilad iwyebs ama Tu im saqmes,magram arasdros
midis bolomde da Sua gzaSi anebebs Tavs.
ai zustad aseTi xalxisTvisaa Seqmnili es miznebis
programa.
programis daxmarebiT, yvela SeZlebs ukve didi xnis
gadadebuli saqmis wamowyebasa da dasrulebas, 6 miznis
Caweris unari, ubralod ar miscems xalxs imis saSu­
alebas, rom saqme Sua gzaSi iqnes mitovebuli.
_ kargi, jeikob egec gasagebia. da Semdeg ra xdeba?
vTqvaT ukve viyeneb programas 21 dRis ganmavlobaSi.
rogor unda davisaxo is miznebi, romlebic warmatebas
momitans?

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Vako
 _ pirvel rigSi unda ifiqro masStaburad.
_ anu?
_ modi masStaburi azrovnebis ramodenime magaliTs
mogiyvan, Cven axla ubralod unda warmovidginoT ori
Cveulebrivi avtosamrecxao, erT-erTi maTganis mflo­
beli avtosamrecxaos gaxsnisas fiqrobda: `ai avamuSa­
veb samrecxaos da misi SemosavliT valebs gadavixdi,
bavSvs Tojinas vuyidi da yovel saRamos biWebTan er­
Tad luds davlev~. meores mepatrone ki amave dros
fiqrobda: `ai avamuSaveb am obieqts, Sevqmni avtosamre­
cxaoTa qsels, axal brends davaarseb da mTel mso­
flioSi Cemi avtosamrecxaos filialebs gavxsni~. ro­
gor ggonia, romels ufro didi Sansi aqvs warmatebis
misaRwevad?
_ cxadiaa meores.
_ ki asea, roca adamians masStaburi miznebi da fi­
qrebi aqvs, is iZulebuli xdeba, eZebos gzebi maT misa­
Rwevad: Cvens magaliTSi pirvel mepatrones valdebu­
leba eqneba, raRac konkretul Semosavlamde miiyvanos
Tavisi obieqti, meores ki amave dros ecodineba, rom
is valdebulia moifiqros axali sareklamo rgole­
bi, daiwyos biznes wignebis Seswavla, ukeT gaerkvios
marketingsa da xalxTan muSaobis sferoebSi, rac mo­
mavalSi, aucileblad mis mier dasaxuli, masStaburi
miznebis miRwevaSi.
_ gamodis, rom masStaburi miznebis miRwevaSi daex­
mareba?
_ ki, ki, egrea.
_ da Tuki am maStabur mizans ver mivaRwevT, mere ra
moxdeba?
_ `daumizneT mTvares,romc aaciloT, aRmoCndebiT
varskvlavebs Soris.~ Mary Kay Ash

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Vako
 _ ukeT verc ityodi jeikob.
_ kidev erT Zalian mniSvnelovan Temaze minda gesau­
bro da ramodenime magaliTic mogiyvano am TemasTan
dakavSirebiT; cota ki gadavuxvevT miznebis Tematiki­
dan magram aucileblad davubrundebiT massac.
_ gismen jeikob
_ me minda gesaubro imaze, rac xalxis umravlesobam
ar icis. xalxma marTla ar icis am elementaruli wesis
gamoyeneba.
_ risi, jeikob?
_ rasac viTxovT cxovrebisgan, imas vRebulobT.
_ anu?
_ ras iTxovs usaxlkaro adamiani? raze ocnebobs
mSieri, uperspeqtivo, cxovrebiT gawvalebuli pirov­
neba?
_ albaT, saWmelze da Tbil dasaZinebel adgilze?
_ ki, misi azrebi ZiriTadad mimarTulia iqiT, rom
kidev erTi dRiT gadarCes, is fiqrobs: `netav xvalac
viSovo saWmeli, neta xvalac Tbil adgilas meZinos~.
nuTu eg adamiani ar Rebulobs amas?
is xom dRidan dRemde cxovrobs ise,rom misi mo­
Txovnidan gamomdinare imoqmedos, egeTi adamiani
saWmlis saSovnelad, an sxvis gadayril saWmels eZebs
an fuls maTxovrobs, SesaZloa iparavdes kidec, Tumca
faqti saxezea, is yovel dRe poulobs im gzas, riTic
akmayofilebs Tavis moTxovnas.
_ xo nu, SimSliT aSkarad ar mokvdeba egeTi pirov­
neba.
_ zustad magis Tqma mindoda, misi moTxovna, ase Tu
ise, Sesrulebuli xdeba. axla, modi warmovidginoT
erTi ojaxis kaci, umaRlesi ganaTlebiT, kargi sam­
saxuriT, karieruli zrdis pespeqtiviT da mSvenieri

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Vako
 coliT. am kacs aqvs ipoteqiT nayidi bina, lizingiT ga­
moyvanili manqana da a.S. mokled, warmovidginoT kaci,
saSualo fenis mTeli buketiT.
rogor ggonia, ras iTxovs es mamakaci cxovrebisgan?
_ nu ra Tqma unda imaze mets, rac aqvs. albaT, axal
binas, manqanas,axal eleqtronul teqnikas, Svilebis
moTxovnebis dakmayofilebas, an Tundac sxva qveyanaSi
dasasveneblad wasasvlel fuls...
_ xo, es adamiani, Cveulebrivi, standartuli saSu­
alo fenis moTxovnebiTaa savse, araferi unikaluri.
axla ki warmoidgine multi-milioneri, adamiani, ro­
melsac yvelaferi aqvs. ras iTxovs is?
_ savaraudod, met Semosavals, ufro mdidrul sa­
saxles, axal TviTmfrinavs da a.S.
_ ki masea. rogor ggonia, ra aerTianebs am samive
adamians erTmaneTTan?
anu Cvens usaxlkaro megobars, Cvens meojaxes da
multi-milioners?
_ samive Rebulobs imas rasac iTxovs?!
_ ki, egrea. usaxlkaro SimSliT ar kvdeba, meojaxe
ki aqvs saSualeba, bavSvebs raime zeimi mouwyos, xolo
mdidari ki mudmivad zrdis sakuTar kapitals.
_ anu Sen ginda Tqva, rom metis moTxovniT mets mii­
Reb? cota ar iyos, magias gavs Seni sityvebi, jeikob.
_ aranairi magia. me ar vambob imas, rom raRacis mo­
Txovnis SemTxvevaSi, samyaro fodnosiT mogawvdis mas.
aq mTavaria, sworad gaigo is, rom, rodesac raRacas
iTxov, TviTonve cdilob mag moTxovnis asrulebas
da TviTonve xedav am misi asrulebis SesaZleblobebs,
romlebsac ra Tqma unda iyeneb.
_ axla gasagebia: Tuki usaxlkaro saWmels iTxovs,
is misi mopovebisTvis ama Tu im moqmedebas Cadis da
moTxovnils adre Tu gvian Rebulobs.

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Vako
 _ diax, Tu es usaxlkaro gazrdis Tavis moTxov­
nas, is avtomaturad gadacvlis rutinul moqmedebebs,
sruliad axlebze, zustad im moqmedebebze, romlebic
amave axal moTxovnas realobad aqcevs.
_ kargi, eg gasagebia, da mere?
_ mere is, rom roca masStaburad vfiqrobT, visaxavT
kidec masStabur miznebs da amave masStaburi miznebis
asasruleblad viyenebT Cvens 6 yoveldRiur miznebis
dasaxva-Sesrulebas da amasTan erTad, 30=dRiani mizne­
bis cxrils.
_ cxrili raRac axalia
_ ki da arc araferi gansakuTrebuli. es iqneba,
ubralod, Cven mier daxazuli `kalendaruli~ cxrili,
anu 30 kvadrati, sadac TiTo kvadrati aRniSnavs erT
konkretul dRes.
_ da es cxrili risTvisaa?
_ risTvis da seriozuli miznebisTvis. ai, magali­
Tad, warmovidginoT, TiTqos Cven gvinda lamazi, re­
liefuri, dakunTuli tani da amis misaRwevad gvWirde­
ba regularuli ,yoveldRiuri varjiSi xom asea?
_ ki, mere?
_ mere is, rom am yoveldRiuri varjiSisTvis,saqmis
bolomde miyvanisTvis da elementaruli TviTdisci­
plinisTvis vxazavT 30 dRian `kalendarul~ cxrils da
misi daxmarebiT, miviRebT motivacias imisTvis, rom vi­
varjiSoT Semdegi 30 dRis ganmavlobaSi.

paralelurad ki Cvens 6 mizanSi yoveldRe vwerT

varjiSs, magaliTad, ase:
1) -----------
2) -----------
3) vivarjiSo (virbino, 100 ajimania gavakeTo, anu Ca­
vweroT is moqmedeba, romelic unda SevasruloT)

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Vako
 4) ---------
5) ---------
6) ---------
mixvdi?
_ mgoni, ki.
_ ho, Tavidan es yvelaferi cota uCveuloa, magram
damijere, Zalian efeqturi.
_ kargi, vTvaT, xval unda vivarjiSo. gavamzadeb
30=dRian cxrils, paralelurad ki Cems 6 mizanSi Sema­
qvs varjiSi, romliTac xval unda vivarjiSo. mere ra
xdeba?
_ mere daapliuseb Sesrulebul mizans da Seaqeb
sakuTar Tavs axali, Tundac Zalian patara miRwevis­
Tvisac ki.
_ jeikob ramodenime kiTxva maqvs.
_ gismen, megobaro.
ase CemTvis jer aravis moumarTavs _ `megobaro~,
cota davibeni kidec, magram Tavi xelSi aviyvane da da­
viwye kiTxvebis dasma.
_ es yvelaferi regularulad unda Sesruldes? anu
ra saWiroa yoveldRe 6 miznis Cawera, roca SemiZlia
erTxel davwero da raime cvlilebis SemTxvevaSi Sev­
cvalo?
_ aq mTavaria zustad am miznebis Cawera-Sesrulebis,
dasaxva-miRwevis Cveva gamoimuSavo. mokled, yoveldRe
miznebis CaweriT, Cven erTgvar pasuxismgeblobas viRe­
bT maT Sesrulebaze.
_ saerTod zepirad, Caweris gareSe, rom vecado am
miznebis dasaxva da Sesruleba?!
_ mm, ai Sen xom gaqvs wasayvani xalxis sia, ara?
_ ki
_ eg sia rom gadaagdo da zepirad imuSao ramden xans
SeZleb korektulad muSaobas?

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Vako
 _ kargi, gasagebia. madloba, jeikob.
_ gaqvs, raime sxva kiTxva?
_ ki. Semdegi ra etapi iqneba Cvens warmatebis for­
mulaSi?
_ TviTdajereba!
iseTi seriozuli xmiTa da intonaciiT mipasuxa, od­
nav damaJriala kidec.
_ rogor Tu TviTdajereba?

TviTdajereba

jeikobi am Temaze saubars Seudga Tu ara Tvalebi

gaunaTda. saubris tempi auCqarda da amxela kacma pa­
tara bavSis namdvili sixaruliT damanaxa is, rom am
Temaze saubari mTeli suliTa da guliT undoda.
_ yvela Cveni saqcieli Tu moqmedeba, Cvenive TviT­
dajerebidan gamomdinareobs, kargad maxsovs, roca 20
wlis viyavi, Cems irgvliv bevri umuSevari trialebda,
yvela maTgani, absoliturad yvela, erTxmad gaiZaxda
imas, rom qveyanaSi saSineli situaciaa, rom samsaxure­
bi Wirs da mokled, yvelaferi trakisken midis.
maT yvelas imdenad sjeroda sakuTari sityvebis,
am damangreveli realobis, rom, faqtobrivad arc
ki cdilobdnen samsaxuris moZebnas, me ki, am axalga­
zrda biWs, mjeroda sruliad sxva ramis, me vicodi,
rom Cems qveyanaSi sakmaod bevri samuSao adgilia; ir­
gvliv sakmaod bevr momuSave restornebs, maRaziebs,
avtosamrecxa­ oebs, bankebs, kazinoebs da mraval sxva
obieqts vxedavdi, da zustad aqedan gamomdinare miC­

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Vako
 ndeboda, logikuri warmodgena imisa, rom samsaxurebi
Cems irgvliv aris da maT sapovnelad mTavaria mxolod
mondomeba.
erTxelac iqamde mivedi, rom sakuTarma usaqmuro­
bam, mSoblebis xarjze cxovrebam da am jerac ar asru­
lebulma `warmatebulma~ momavalma, `Wkuidan gadamiy­
vana~ da samsaxuris dawyeba gadamawyvetina.
maSin, studentobisas, TiTqmis yvela Cemi megoba­
ri mimtanad muSaobda sxvadasxva kafe-restornebSi da
zustad aqedan gamomdinare mec am saqmes vxedavdi yve­
laze perspeqtiuls,perspeqtiuls iqamde sanam swavlas
davasrulebdi da profesiiT muSaobas daviwyebdi.
_ mere ra qeni daiwye?
_ jer dedas davureke da vuTxari: `de muSaoba minda
daviwyo~
da yurmilis meore mxridan im wamsve dedis mier
atexili sicili momesma:
`Sen?, jeikob, Sen da muSaoba? ar mjera!“
am `dacinvam~ gamaRiziana, agresiulad vupasuxe, rom
aucileblad daviwyebdi muSaobas, gavTiSe yurmili da
samsaxuris Zebnas Sevudeqi.
pirvel rigSi davukavSirdi Cems megobrebs da maT
samsaxurSi vakansiis arsebobaze vkiTxe. umravles Sem­
TxvevaSi erTi da igive pasuxs vRebulobdi: `axla vakan­
sia ara gvaqvs, magram, Tu gamoCndeba, aucileblad ge­
tyvi~
nu, maSinve mivxvdi, rom megobrebis imedze am saqme­
Si ver gavCerdebodi, elementarul lodinis reJimSi
ver gadavidodi da samsaxuris Zebnis sxva gzebsac miva­
deqi, davjeqi nouTbuqTan Sevedi yvelasaTvis cnobil
socialur qselSi da daviwye restornebis, sxvadasxva
kafe-barebis, launj barebis, sastumroebis da mrava­

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Vako
 li sxva obieqtebis Zebna Cemive qalaqSi. kargad maxso­
vs rom 60=ze meti obieqti amovirCie da absoliturad
yvela maTgans mivwere erTi da igive elementaruli,
sul raRac 7 sityvisgan Semdgari teqsti.
`gamarjoba mimtanis poziciaze vakansia xom ar ge­
qnebaT?~
10 wuTi, megobaro, 10 wuTi ar iyo gasuli, pirveli
pasuxi rom miviRe, sadac ewera: `ki gvaqvs da gTxovT
dagvikavSirdeT Cvens samuSao nomerze +995 bla bla
bla~
mec egreve aviRe telefoni, davureke da standar­
tul kiTxvebze pasuxis gacemas Sevudeqi:
`am sferoSi muSaobis gamocdileba Tu gaqvT? ramde­
ni wlisa xarT? sadauri brZandebiT da a.S“.
mere mkiTxes SevZlebdi, Tu ara saRamos 8 saaTze
gasaubrebaze misvlas, razec davTanxmdi, da zrdilo­
bianad davemSvidobe.
saRamos mosvlamde, simarTle giTxra sxva adresate­
bisganac miviRe pasuxi. zogierTi gamocdilebis maRal
dones iTxovda, zogi pirdapir ambobda,rom ar hqondaT
vakansia,bevrma ki, saerTod upasuxod damtova. Tumca
iyo iseTebi vinc gasaubrebaze damibara. sabolood,
erTi saaTis ganmavlobaSi, sul raRac 7=sityviani sms­
-is 60 adresatTan gagzavniT, samsaxurTa Soris arCe­
vanis winaSe videqi maSin, roca umravlesobis TqmiT,
qveyanaSi samsaxurebi fizikurad ar iyo.
_ jeikob, rogor dasrulda es ambavi, sad daiwye mu­
Saoba, an daiwye ki saerTod?
_ meore dilas ukve samsaxurSi viyavi.
_ ahah, da dedaSenma rao, ra giTxra?
_ fuli maCuqa da gaognebulma mkiTxa: `Sen Cemi Svi­
li xar? Cemi jeikobi?~

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Vako
 jeikobma auCqareblad Semomxeda da mTxova, misi mo­
nayolidan morali gamometana, nu mec ra Tqma unda da­
vTanxmdi.
_ Sen Senma `rwmunebam~, anu iman risic gjeroda, da­
gexmara samsaxuris povnaSi da sxva xals amave dros Ta­
vianTma `rwmunebam~ yvela gza gadauketa.
xom sworad gavige Seni monaTxrobi?
_ ki
_ kargi, maSin sanam saubars ganagrZob, mec minda
TviTdajerebasTan dakavSirebiT raRac ambavi mogiyve.
_ gismen, megobaro.
jeikobi fexze wamodga, or WiqaSi isev rZe Camoasxa
da taxts daubrunda. erTi me gadmomawoda, meoreTi ki
isev ulvaSebi gaiferada.
_ axla, rasac mogiyvebi, es ambavi da amis analogebi
uTvalavi momxdara. darwmunebuli var Senc Sexvedri­
xar amgvar situacias da Tu ar Sexvedrixar, nu, vinmes­
gan mainc mogismenia.
me mogiyvebi adamianze, sasikvdilod ganwirulze,
adamianze, romelic CemTan Sexvedramde, mTlianad Sei­
cvala.
misi lamazi saxeli, jeikob, arasdros damaviwydeba.
emili, es iyo gogona, romelsac sakmaod swori, gr­
Zeli da Savi feris Tmebi hqondaa, is iyo yvelasaTvis
sayvareli, mudam yuradRebis centrSi myofi, Zlieri
da Tavdajerebuli pirovneba, romlis cxovreba mTlia­
nad gadatrialda maSin, mas Semdeg, rac gaigo sityvebi:
`Tqven dagrCaT 2 Tve~
am sityvebis gagonebis Semdeg, SokSi Cavardnilma
emilim Tavzardacemulma datova eqimis oTaxi.
roca mas Sevxvdi, emilim miTxra, rom diagnozis das­
misTanave absoliturad yvela sityva daaviwyda, yvela

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Vako
 grZnoba gaeTiSa da aRarc Cveulebrivi adamianuri fi­
qris unari gaaCnda, emilis maSin aRarc is adardebda
Tu rogori SeiZleba yofiliyo misi cxovreba 10 an 20
wlis Semdeg, man miTxra, rom sityva-sityviT axsovda
misi imdroindeli azrebi:
`23,23,23 ... nuTu am asakSi unda movkvde? nuTu es
cifri Cemi istoriis dasasrulad CaiTvleba?~
diagnozis dasmis Semdeg, saxlSi misuli emili pir­
dapir sarkes eca da sakuTar, jerac cocxal Tvalebs
Caxeda:
`ori Tve, sul raRac ori Tve? maxsovs, rom sarkes
vuyurebdi da yvela gamqrali emocia, aTmagi ZaliT da­
mibrunda, Tvalebi cremlebiT amevso, muxlebze daveci
da imedgamqralma civ iatakze sakuTari bedis wyevlas
Sevudeqi~
cota xans saubari Sevwyvite, istoriis kargad gaxse­
nebas vcdilobdi, raTa azrebi ar amreoda da am dros
mouTmenarma jeikobma mkiTxa.
_ Semdeg? Semdeg ra moxda? ha, nu welav, gamiskda
kacs guli.
_ emilim 10-15 wuTiani tirilis Semdeg, Tavi xelSi
aiyvana da erTi mniSvnelovani gadawyvetileba miiiRo:
is fexze wamodga, sarkeSi Caixeda da mTeli Tavdaje­
rebiT iyvira:
`me cocxali var da arsad wasvlas ar vapireb!~
`me cocxali var da arsad wasvlas ar vapireb!~
`me cocxali var da arsad wasvlas ar vapireb!~
emili, yovel gameorebisas xmas umatebda, lamisaa
xma CaxleCoda, man maSin, zustad maSin uTxra mTel
samyaros, rom is ar apirebda am ganaCenTan Seguebas da
gaagrZelebda cxovrebas.
_ verafers ityvi, Zlieri gogo yofila!

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Vako
 _ moica jer sad xar! emilim Tavisi sicocxlis gasa­
grZeleblad,maqsimalurad efeqturi gegma Seadgina, am
gegmaSi punqtebad iyo Camowerili absoliturad yve­
laferi _ mSoblebTan drois gatarebiT dawyebuli da
disneilendSi wasvliT, janmrTelobis gaZlierebiTa da
TviTdajerebiT damTavrebuli: da ai, zustad TviTda­
jereba warmoadgenda misi gegmis yvelaze Zlier nawils.
gegmis mixedviT emilis yovel dRe 10 wuTis ganmavlo­
baSi xmamaRla unda warmoeTqva sityvebi:
`me cocxali var da arsad wasvlas ar vapireb~
_ mere ra qna? marTlac gadarCa? magram rogor ga­
darCeboda Tu ki SenTan dialogi mainc mouwia? eh.
_ jeikob nu Cqarob. emi Cemo kargo, yovel dRe dau­
zareblad da maqsimaluri enTuziazmiT asrulebda Ta­
vis gegmas, erTi dRec ki ar gamoutovebia da zustad 2
TveSi, maSin, roca me mivakiTxe,masTan dialogi gavmar­
Te da Semdgom misi wayvana gadavwyvite, raRacam xeli
SemiSala, me fizikurad aRar SemeZlo emis Sevxebodi.
_ ver mivxvdi, ras niSnavda eg?
_ imas, rom misi dro jer ar iyo mosuli!
misi daavadeba, jeikob, ise gaqra, TiTqos arc ara­
sodes gaCenila.
_ da dRes rogoraa eg gogona?
_ dRes, emilis 2 Svili da 1 SviliSvili hyavs.
jeikobs emilis `hefi endiT~ dasrulebuli istoria
sixaruliT avsebda, mas erTdroulad isic uxaroda,
rom emili gadarCa, da isic, rom misi mosazreba Tvi­
Tdajerebis ZalasTan dakavSirebiT, Cemi monayoliTac
dadasturda: me xom zustad is vTqvi, ris Tqmasac Tvi­
Ton jeikobi apirebda.
cota xanSi jeikobma mTxova, sxva oTaxSi gavyolodi,
sadac saintereso raRacis Cvenebas Sempirda. oTaxidan

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Vako
 gamosulma, me egreve SevamCnie is, rom misi didebuli
sasaxlis interieris, namdvil mefeebsac SeSurdeboda.
TiTo detali, TiTo kuTxe, erTmaneTSi idealurad iyo
Sexamebuli, saukeTesod xarisxiT gakeTbuli da gan­
sakuTrebuli dizainiT gamoirCeoda, darwmunebuli
var, es saxli jeikobis wasvlis Semdeg, bevri adamianis
mizani gaxdeba...
cota xanSi me da jeikobi im oTaxis karebTan aRmovC­
ndiT, romelSic mas unda miveyvane, man oTaxis kari ga­
miRo da xeliT SigniT Sesvlaze mimiTiTa. oTaxSi pir­
veli nabijis gadadgmac ki sakmarisi iyo, imisaTvis rom
me adgilze gavSeSebuliyavi. es oTaxi absoliturad
yvelafrisgan iyo gansxvavebuli, rac ki odesme minaxa­
vs, kedlebi mTlianad warwerebiT iyo savse da TviTon
oTaxis centrSi, erTi didebuli tyavis taxti idga.
jeikobma mTxova, kedlis warwerebi axlodan dame­
Tvalierebina, simarTle giTxraT, amis gakeTebas misi
Txovnis gareSec vapirebdi.
mec Semosasvlel karebTan warwerebs mivuaxlovdi
da ramdenime winadadeba amovikiTxe:
`me mdidari var~.
`me momwons Cemi Tavi~.
`me SemiZlia vakeTo is rac momindeba~.
`me viReb pasuxismgeblobas sakuTar Tavze, gamovi­
muSavo bevri fuli~.
`fuli modis CemTan advilad da regularulad~.
da eseTi winadadebebiT iyo savse oTaxis oTxive ke­
deli,iatakidan Weramde.
_ daviwyo axsna, Tu kidev waikiTxav ramodenimes?
simarTle giTxraT, gaTiSuli viyavi. imdenad davin­
teresdi TviTon oTaxiT, rom jeikobisTvis pasuxis ga­
cemas isev am winadadebebis wakiTxva vamjobine.

29

Vako
 `me pasuxismgeblobas viReb sakuTar Tavze da saku­
Tar cxovrebaze~.
`me da mxolod me vmarTav sakuTar cxovrebas~.
_ jeikob, mgoni amaT amokiTxvas verasdros davamTa­
vreb.
_ ra ironiulia, ara? TviT sikvdils ar eyofa dro
imisTvis, rom yvela winadadeba amoikiTxos.
_ ras niSnavs es yvelaferi, jeikob?
_ am winadadebebs, megobaro, afirmaciebi hqvia da
Tavs davdeb, rom afirmaciebis gamoyenebiT yvela ada­
miani SeZlebs sakuTari cxovrebis radikalurad Sec­
vlas.
mokled rom vTqva, skolebSi yvela adamians uwevda
Tundac maTematikuri formulebis an leqsebis dazepi­
reba da ra Tqma unda dazepirebisTvis yvela CvenTaga­
ni am maTematikur formulebs an leqsebs mravaljer
imeorebda, aqedan gamomdinare me gamiCnda erTi kiTxva:
Tuki gameorebis saSualebiT Cven SegviZlia davimaxso­
vroT leqsebi, maTematikuri formulebi, winadadebe­
bi, moTxrobebi da sxva mravali ram, maSin amave xerxis
(gameorebis) gamoyeneba Cvens yoveldRiurobaSic xom
unda SeiZlebodes ara?
_ ki
_ hoda, afirmacia es aris erTi da igive winadadebis
bevrjer gameoreba, iqamde, sanam Cveni qvecnobieri re­
alobad ar aRiqvams am winadadebas.
saerTod, arsbobs Zalian didi raodenobis afirma­
ciebi, romlebic yvela pirovnebam, TavisTvis indivi­
dualurad unda SeirCios.
da TviTon am afirmaciebis arCeva, unda moxdes saku­
Tar Tavze da sakuTar cxovrebaze dakvirvebis Sedegad.
_ ver vxvdebi, jeikob!

30
Vako
 _ pirvel rigSi, afirmaciebis SerCevisas, Cven saku­
Tar TavSi unda vipovoT Cvenive `gamanadgurebeli~,
`aramarTebuli~, `Semaferxebeli~ TviTdarwmunebebi,
anu is cudi azrebi, risic gvjera da romelTa mixedvi­
Tac vmoqmedebT an ar vmoqmedebT.
_ ki magram, rogor unda aRmovaCinoT isini?
_ pirvel rigSi, unda davakvirdeT Cvens kompleqse­
bs. yvela kompleqsi rac gagvaCnia, vimeoreb yvela is
kompleqsi, romelic Cven gvawuxebs, Cven mier Seqmnili
`gamanadgurebeli~ TviTdarwmunebaa. Sors rom ar wavi­
deT Cems axalgazrdobisdroindel kompleqsebs Camo­
giTvli.
simorvis kompleqsi.
cekvis kompleqsi.
simReris kompleqsi.
TvalebSi yurebis kompleqsi.
da kidev sxva mravali...
_ jeikob, cota gasagebad mesaubre gTxov.
_ gasagebad? aha! afirmaciebis saSualebiT me SevZe­
li sakuTari kompleqsebis daZleva...
_ eg rogor?
_ ai, magaliTad zemoT CamoTvlili kompleqsebis mo­
saSoreblad, me yovel dRe viyenebdi am afirmaciebs:
`me momwons Cemi Tavi~.
`me SemiZlia vakeTo is, rac momindeba~.
`xalxTan saubrisas me vuyureb maT marjvena Tval­
Si~.
_ marjvena TvalSi?
_ moica, mivalT magis axsnamdec, manamde ki daviwyoT
amiT:
`me momwons Cemi Tavi~. modi aba cade,gaimeore es
winadadeba, sul raRac 20-30 jer, da gpirdebi maleve

31

Vako
 Sinagani siamovnebisgan Seivsebi da sakuTar saxeze mom­
dgar Rimilsac ki SeamCnev.
_ kargi, ha, vcdi, ras vkargav? arc arafers!
me momwons Cemi Tavi,
me momwons Cemi Tavi ,
me momwons Cemi Tavi,
me momw.......
......
...
_ ufro xmamaRla! SemomZaxa jeikobma.
_ me momwons Cemi Tavi!
me momwons Cemi Tavi!
me mom......
...
...
da marTlac, male TiTqos, Sinagani Sveba vigrZeni,
saxeze Rimili momadga da siamovnebiT aRsavsem jeikobs
TvalebSi Sevxede.
_ Sen warmoidgine, sul raRac 20 wamia, rac am wina­
dadebebs imeoreb, da ukve geRimeba, da yovel dRe 5-5
wuTi, rom aCuqo am winadadebas, Semdeg ra moxdeba?
_ ar vici.
_ me vici... am afirmaciis xSiri da regularuli ga­
moyenebiT, Sen gaxdebi metad Tavdajerebuli da pozi­
tiuri. mokled dadebiTi Tvisebebis buketad iqcevi da
rac Seexeba amave afirmaciis Cvevad qcevas, es 21 dRe­
Si moxdeba da Sen mogecema strestan brZolis sakmaod
kargi instrumenti.
_ anu?
_ anu stresul situaciebSi, emociebis gamoxatvas
da arabunebrivad moqcevas, amjobineb sakuTar azrebSi
amave winadadebis gameorebas _ `me momwons Cemi Tavi~.

32

Vako
 simarTle giTxra am sityvebis realuri Zalis gageba
momiwia 22 wlis asakSi, maSin roca nevrozs vebrZodi.
_ aqedan cota dawvrilebiT jeikob...
_ 22 wlis asakSi me damemarTa SfoTviTi aSliloba
da depersonalizacia, simarTle giTxra, mudmivi Si­
nagani SiSebi katastroful mdgomareobaSi magdebda,
saxlidan fexis gadgmisac ki meSinoda, xolo vizualu­
ri halucinaciebi ki Cems irgvliv myof samyaros re­
alobis elfers ukargavda. zogjer isic ki megona, rom
koSmarSi viyavi da es yvelaferi mesizmreboda, isic
mifiqria TiTqos raime kinos personaJi vyofilvar da
yvelaferi Cems irgvliv mxolod iluziaa, ase megona
Cemze yvelam yvelaferi icoda da Cem TiTo nabijs,
gare mayurebeli hyavda.
_ albaT Zneli iyo, ara?
_ ki, Zalian Zneli iyo: miT umetes, rom diagnozi ar
vicodi, warmodgenac ar mqonda, rom nevrozi mWirda,
da aqedan gamomdinare, sakuTar Tavs, ramdenime Tvis
ganmavlobaSi, raRac saSinel daavadebebs vufiqrebdi
xolme. Tumca am situaciasTan danebebas, SebrZoleba
vamjobine da zustad am brZolis erT-erTi Zlieri xerxi
iyo es konkretuli afirmacia. yovelTvis roca cudad
viyavi, Sinagan SiSebs vigrZnobdi an halucinaciebisgan
Tavis brunvas vgrZnobdi, viwyebdi am sityvebis gameo­
rebas: `me momwons Cemi Tavi~, ris daxmarebiTac maleve,
Cems normalur mdgomareobas vubrundebodi. mokled
rom vTqva, am afirmaciis daxmarebiT, ara marto kom­
pleqsebis moSoreba da sakuTari Tavis Seqeba, aramed
bevri Sinagani demonis damarcxebac ki SeiZleba.
daimaxsovre!
aq mTavaria afirmaciebis regularulad gamoyeneba.
afirmacia, ubralod ar imuSavebs, Tu dRes 1 saaTis

33

Vako
 ganmavlobaSi imuSaveb masze, da xval aRar, ubralod
damijere! Sedegs fizikurad ver miiReb.
dauTme dReSi 5-5 wuTi TiTo afirmacias, 21 dRis
ganmavlobaSi da damijere Seni cxovreba samudamod
Seicvleba. droTa ganmavlobaSi, Sen meti da meti
afirmaciis gakeTeba mogindeba, mudmivad ecdebi meti
dro gamouyo am moqmedebas da Tu ki ama Tu im mizezis
gamo, ver SeZleb dRis afirmaciis Sesrulebas, Sinagani
diskomforti Wkuidan gadagiyvans da mainc ipovi gzas
dRis gegmis Sesasruleblad.
_ gasagebia, jeikob, axla Tu SeiZleba Semdegi afir­
maciebic ganmimarte.
_ `me SemiZlia vakeTo is rac momindeba~.
konkretulad es afirmacia dagexmareba axali idee­
bis mofiqrebaSi, didi xnis gadadebul saqmeebis dawye­
baSi da mTavari: Sen gagiqreba kritikisa da dacinvis
SiSi, rac Seexeba mesame afirmacias:
`xalxTan saubrisas me vuyureb maT marjvena Tval­
Si~.
me piradad Zalian didi kompleqsi mqonda xalxze
TvalSi yurebisa da zustad am afirmaciiT SevZeli am
kompleqsis daZleva. marjvena TvalSi yurebas rac Se­
exeba, es yvela kargi msmenelis Tvisebaa, anu marjvena
TvalSi yurebisas xalxs eqmneba imis warmodgena, rom
Cven mTeli suliTa da guliT vusmenT maT, Sedegad ki
isini kidev ufro gvendobian da gviaxlovdebian.
axla ki gaviazroT, konkretulad is, Tu, rogor mu­
Saobs afirmaciebi, am bolo magaliTiT, kargi?
_ kargi jeikob.
_ mokled, 7 dRec ar iyo gasuli rac im winadadebas
dReSi 5-5 wuTis ganmavlobaSi vimeorebdi, da SevamC­
nie, rom mamamaCemTan saubrisas avtomaturad momdio­

34

Vako
 da azri `vuyuro marjvena TvalSi~. xolo daaxloebiT
erT TveSi gaazrebac ki aRar mWirdeboda, ise vaqcevdi
am afirmacias realobad.
_ anu TvalebSi yureba saerTod aRar giWirda?
_ zogad formaSi rom vimsjeloT, ho, ar miWirda,
Tumca TvalebSi yurebas Zalian bevri niuansi aqvs da
SegviZlia gamomuSavebad unaradac ki CavTvaloT, ra­
zec momavalSi aucileblad visaubrebT.

afirmaca da meeqvse grZnoba

_ megobaro, ici, rom Sens mosvlas winaswar vgrZnob­

di?
_ eg rogor?
_ Sen warmoidgine, afirmaciebs adamianSi meeqvse gr­
Znobis gamoRviZeba SeuZlia. oRond sanam axnsnas da­
giwyeb or kiTxvaze gameci pasuxi.
_ gismen.
_ deJaviu _ ai is Sinagani grZnoba, roca ggonia, rom
ama Tu im konkretul situaciaSi ukve moxvedrilxar,
xSirad gaqvs xolme?
odnav gameRima.
_ jeikob, simarTle giTxra, eg grZnoba Cemi profe­
siidan gamomdinare, ukve yovel dRe maqvs, imdenad bevr
adamianTan miwevs Sexvedra, rom xSirad mgonia, TiTqos
erTi da igive pirovnebasTan ramdenimejer mivdivar.
_ eg ukve sxva ramea. kargi da insaiTebi Tu gemarTe­
ba xolme? (insaiTi: inglisuri sityvaa, romelic niSna­
vs raimes arsis gacnobierebas, wvdomis aqts)

35

Vako
 _ ra Tqma unda, Tumca egec ukve Cveulebriv movle­
nad mimaCnia. jeikob, bolos da bolos, Zalian didi
xania varsebob, Tumca ukve vici razec unda mesaubro.
nuTu Sen meeqvse grZnobis saidumlo gaige?
_ saidumloa Tu ara, namvilad ar vici, magram faq­
tia, rom afirmaciebis regularulma xmarebam cxovre­
bis es mniSvnelovani mxare damanaxa.
axla gTxov kargad momismino.
Cemi pirveli deJaviu, romlis mizandasaxulad ga­
moyenebac SevZeli, wignebis maRaziaSi damemarTa. er­
Txelac raRac konkretul wigns veZebdi da konsul­
tants vTxove, damxmareboda, man Cemi moTxovna jer
kompiuterSi gadaamowma da, roca iq veraferi naxa,
TviTon Seudga Cemi wignis Zebnas, 5-10 wuTi mainc eZe­
ba da, sabolood danebebulma, sakmaod guldawyvetil­
ma miTxra, rom aseTi wigni maRaziaSi ar hqondaT da
damSvidobebis magier, sxva biznes Tematikis wignebi
SemomTavaza, mec raTmqaunda ar SevewinaaRmdege da am
didebul, wignebis surneliT savse maRaziaSi, biznes
Tematikis daxls mivuaxlovdi. megobaro ra lamazi
konsultanti iyo ici? cisferi TvalebiT, wiTeli ce­
cxlis feri TmebiT da patara, Zalian patara zomis sa­
TvaleebiT.
_ jeikob! deJaviu!
cota gaRizianebulma vuTxari.
_ ah, xo gaverTe. mokled, wignebis daxls mivuaxlo­
vdi Tu ara, Zalian Zlieri deJavius grZnoba dameu­
fleba, es ar iyo ubralod imis gaazreba, rom aq odes­
me vyofilvar, es iyo mTeli taniT raRacis ucnauris
SegrZneba. Tavidan ar mivaqcie yuradReba da wignebis
ubralod Tvalierebas Sevudeqi, Tumca meoredac igive
damemarTa da ukve intuiciurad, sxva, sruliad gansx­

36

Vako
 vavebuli Tematikis wignebisken gavemgzavre, maTi Tva­
liereba daviwye da Cems winaSe gamoCnda zustad is wig­
ni, romelsac manamde veZebdi. arasdros damaviwydeba
eg momenti, gaunZrevlad videqi da vcdilobdi gamea­
zrebina ra moxda. ki magram, ram momiyvana am daxalTan?
an es ori deJaviu zedized ras niSnavs? an rogor Sei­
Zleba konsultantma ver ipovos wigni wignebis bazaSi,
Semdeg ki saWiro Tematikis daxlSi da me, pirvelad
Semosulma stumarma, SevZlo es?
rogor? ratom daemTxva amdeni rame?
_ jeikob, ai, axla marTla magias gavs Seni sityvebi,
an, ubralod, situaciis gazviadebas.
_ gaficeb, romel magiaze melaparakebi, roca TviT
sikvdili dgaxar erTi Cveulebrivi adamianis winaSe da
masTan dialogs marTav: Tumca, kargi, Seni skepticiz­
mi CemTvis ucxo ar aris, amitomac ufro dawvrilebiT
agixsni yvelafers.
_ aba, he!
_ wignebis maRaziaSi momxdari ambavi mxolod pirve­
li SemTxveva iyo, mis Semdeg deJaviu ufro gaxSirebu­
lad memarTeboda, me ki vera da ver vxvdebodi, Tu ro­
gor SemeZlo maTi gamoyeneba manam, sanam velosipedis
tarebisas asfaltze cxvir-piri ar davasxi.
_ rogor Tu cxvir-piri daasxi?
_ zustadac rom davasxi.
_ momiyevi!
_ erTi Zalian Cqari velosipedi myavda, TeTri, wi­
Teli warwerebiT, imdenad movlili iyo, rom erT
nakawrsac ver unaxavdi. sakmaod didi borblebiT da
mSvenieri proteqtorebiT, Tanamedrove siCqaris ga­
damrTvelebiT da saukeTeso xarisxis jaWv...
_ jeikob, nu gamagiJe, ggonia, Seni axsnis gareSe ar
vici, rogor gamoiyureba velosipedebi? jobia, is mo­

37

Vako
 miyevi, Tu rogor daasxi cxvir-piri an, saerTod, ras
gulisxmob am gamoTqmaSi.
amis Tqma iyo da jeikobi aSkarad gabrazda, Tvaleb­
ze etyoboda. man kbilebi erTmaneTs daaWira dapatara
bavSis gabutuli intonaciiT Tqva:
_ arafersac aRar movyvebi! wamiyvane, jobia.morCa
dialogi.
_ kargi, jeikob. etyoba SenTvis mniSvnelovania am
velosipedis aRwera da, midi, miTxari, rogori velosi­
pedi gyavda?
_ didi.
_ Cqari xo?
_ ki.
_ giyvarda?
_ ki.
mdaaa _ aSkarad 77 wlis bavSvs vesaubrebodi.
_ kargi, jeikob, mapatie! axla mainc gaagrZeleb dia­
logs?
hmm _ gaiRima, Tavisas miaRwia.
`macade, Sen gaCveneb dialogis mere rac mogiva~, ga­
vifiqre me da boroti siciliT gavicine.
jeikobma ki amasobaSi Tavisi ambis moyola ganagrZo,
Tumca kidev ramdenime xani Tavisi `super~ velosipedis
aRweras moandoma. sabolood gavige, rom es velosipe­
di misi simwriT gamomuSavebuli fuliT iyo nayidi da
zustad amitomac warmoadgenda misTvis aseT mniSvne­
lobas, nu, ra gasakviria Cemo kargebo, Tu axalgazrda
biWs, romelsac mSoblebi uvlidnen da sakuTari ini­
ciativiT arc Tu ise bevri ram hqonda ganakeTebi, ele­
mentaruli velosipedis yidvac ki Zalian mniSvnelovan
ramedac SeiZleba CaiTvalos, mokled iqamde sanam mTa­
var Temas davubrundiT, am velosipedis boltebis rao­

38

Vako
 denobidan dawyebuli, misi gamyidveliT damTavrebuli
yvelaferi vicodi.
_ erTxel, megobaro, Cemi velosipediT Zalian Cqara
mivdiodi da davardnamde 20-30 wamiT adre isev deJa­
vius Zlieri grZnoba dameufla. Tumca, samwuxarod, es
grZnoba uyuradRebod davtove da ramdenime xanSi, isev
da isev Zalian maRal siCqareze, marjvena fexi pedals
ufro didi ZaliT davaWire, aman ki jaWvis gawyveta da
pedlis gaqceva gamoiwvia, am momentidan wami ar aris
gasuli, roca mivfrinav da axlos myofi qalebis kivi­
li Tan momsdevs. simarTle giTxra arc me davakeli am
situacias drama da bolo xmaze yviriliT asfaltze
daveci, xelis gulebi am dros basr qvebze ecema da
naxevrad ixliCeba, muxlebi asfaltze srialisgan xur­
deba da Cemi kanis nawilebi zed miwaze rCeba, am yvela­
fers Tan saxis daxeTqebac mohyveboda, daiwyo marjve­
na yuriT, Semdeg tuCebiT, nikapiT da ai rogorc iqna
asfaltTan tkbil Caxutebas da gaxaxunebas movrCi, ki­
vili Sewyda da miwaze sruliad dangreuli, damtvreu­
li vgdivar.
_ ahahah, Turme maSin unda movsuliyavi SenTan, jei­
kob.
siciliT vuTxari.
_ roca geZaxdi da gexvewebodi, wamiyvane meTqi ar
modiodi da am situaciaSi me bodiSi, miuxedavad iseTi
seriozuli dacemisa, TiTze Zvalic ki ar gambzzarvia,
mxolod zog adgilas amZvrali kaniT, Calurjebuli
TvaliT da daxeTqili tuCebiT gamovZveri mag situa­
ciidan.
_ rodis meZaxdi? bavSvobaSi Seyvarebulma rom mi­
gatova, Tu lombardma dedikos naCuqari manqana rom
wagarTva? ha jeikob?

39

Vako
 _ kargi ra, nu damcini, maSin ver vxvdebodi, rom
eseTi elementaruli raRaceebis gareSec SemeZlo cxo­
vreba.
_ modi, Temas davubrundeT!
_ mokled, bevri rom ar vilaparako, afirmaciebis
regularuli gamoyenebiT, adamianma SeiZleba xSirad
ganicados deJaviu da me sulac ar geubnebi imas, rom
es deJaviu cxovrebas gadagvirCens an raime gansaku­
Trebuls gagvikeTebs, SesaZlebelia deJaviu, ubralod,
tvinis mier situaciis dagvianebiT aRqmasac niSnavdes,
Tumca Cemi rCeva iqneba, Zlieri winaSegrZnobis SemTx­
vevaSi.
nu davikidebT mas fexebze. ra ici, egeb, marTlac,
meeqvse grZnobaa, egeb, marTlac, is auxsneli Zalaa,
romelic gamogvadgeba cxovrebaSi.
axla ki modi insaiTebze vilaparakoT.
_ yuradRebiT gismen!
_ isaiTebi afirmaciebis Zalian mniSvnelovan nawils
Seadgens. advilad gasagebi rom iyos, ramodenime maga­
liTs mogiyvan, imasTan dakavSirebiT, Tu rogor mogv­
dis insaiTi afirmaciebis gamoyenebisas.
1) `me da mxolod me vmarTav sakuTar cxovrebas~.
am sityvebs yoveldRe 5-5 wuTis ganmavlobaSi Tve­
naxevari vambobdi da erT-erTi gameorebisas momivida
insaiTi, anu me Sinaganad gaviazre is, rom xalxis kri­
tikis ar unda meSinodes, gaviazre is, rom xalxis azrma
ar unda SemaSinos da ar unda gamaCeros. am afirmaciis
daxmarebiT me gaviazre is, rom marTlac mTeli Cemi
cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi kritikis SiSs, Cemi SeCerebis
uflebas vaZlevdi, xSirad sakuTar Tavs, raime inicia­
tivis gamoxatvis uflebas ar vaZlevdi, an Cems Sina­
gan moTxovnebs, ocnebebs, miznebs yovelTvis ufro da

40

Vako
 ufro Rrmad vmarxavdi, da ai, rogorc iqna momivida
insaiTi, gaazreba am elementaruli raRacisa.
xalxi ras ifiqrebs?
pfff ra mniSvneloba aqvs, ras ifiqreben!
ras ityvian?
me xom TviTon vmarTav sakuTar cxovrebas, me xom
imas vakeTeb rac momindeba ara? xoda am Cems fexs,
xalxma rac unda is Tqvas!
megobaro, maxsovs, rom zustad am insaiTis dros
sarkeSi Cavixede da TiTqos mTel kacobriobas erTia­
nad vuTxari:
`mapatieT, magram erTxel vcxovrob, mapatieT, ma­
gram CemTvis vcxovrob!~
da am sityvebs kidev erTi gaazreba, kidev erTi in­
saiTi mohyva, me mivxvdi, rom Cems bavSvobis megobars,
romelsac ukve wlebia vexmarebi, moralurad da mate­
rialurad gverdSi vudgavar, romelsac saWmelsac xSi­
rad me vaWmev, am TiTqos da `sikeTes~ ugulod vukeTeb,
gaviazre is, rom Sinaganad ar mindoda masze daxmareba,
ar mindoda wlebis manZilze es simZime Tan metarebina
da yvelaferi es, ici ratom xdeboda?
imitom, rom me wlebis manZilze meSinoda imis, rom
Cemi megobari nawyeni ar darCeniliyo, meSinoda imis,
ara Tqvas, ukan ar damayolos sityvebi: `aseTi ra i­ Sove~.
zustad maSin gaviazre, rom es sakuTar Tavze aRe­
buli valdebuleba, egreT wodebuli `sikeTis~ keTe­
ba, sikeTe sulac ar aris; es realurad kritikis SiSia,
SiSi ukan moyolili sityvebisa, zizRiani Semoxedvisa
da imedgacruebisa. me rogorc iqna gaviazre,vaRiazre
es simarTle da vTqvi:
`mapatieT, magram erTxel vcxovrob, mapatieT. ma­
gram CemTvis vcxovrob~

41

Vako
 ar damaviwydeba, am insaiTis Semdeg cremlebi wya­
liviT msdioda, tkivili iyo Tu namdvili Sveba? egec
ar vicodi, magram vicodi is, rom me, rogorc iqna mo­
vixseni borkilebi, zustad is borkilebi, romlebiTac
TviTonve me davabi sakuTari Tavi.
`mapatieT magram erTxel vcxovrob,mapatieT magram
CemTvis vcxovrob!!!~
jeikobi cota xans gaCerda, patara pauza aiRo da
oTaxis warwerebis Tvalierebas Seudga, simarTle gi­
TxraT, arasodes minaxavs aseTi didi tkivili da sixa­
ruli erTmaneTSi gareuli, gegoneboda, okeanis Storm­
Si moxvedrili adamiani, talRebs sixaruliT xvdeboda,
TiTqos gemi iZireboda da es mezRvauri ki talRebze
frenas agrZelebda.
Semdeg ise Semomxeda, aSkarad raRacis kiTxva ­undoda.
_ megobaro bevrs Sexvedrilxar iseTs vinc am ele­
mentarul insaiTs ver Rebulobs?
_ umravlesobas, jeikob, da vai imas, vinc CemTan
Sexvedrisas gaiazrebs am elementarul raRacas, isini
mTeli suliTa da guliT nanoben, tirian, mexvewebian,
zogjer imdenad ganicdian, rom, mgonia, ajobebda es
simarTle, romelic mTeli cxovreba am xalxs aCerebda,
sulac ar gaegoT.
jeikob, ici, iseTebic arian, vinc, miuxedavad am gaa­
zrebisa, miuxedavad imis mixvedrisa, rom xalxis kriti­
kisa eSiniaT, Tvalebze TiTqos uxilav tilos ifareben
da mTeli cxovrebis manZilze sakuTar Tavs abrmaveben,
miuxedavad gaazrebisa, isini kritikis SiSs, sakuTar
ocnebebs akvlevineben. egeTi xalxi xSirad ambobs imas.
rom raRac ar gamouvaT, rom erTxel ukve cades gan­
Tavisufleba da ar gamouvidaT, amboben, TiTqos cxo­
vrebasTan brZolaSi damarcxdnen, da simarTle giTxra
marTlebic arian.

42

Vako
 ubralod egeTi xalxi zustad maSin damarcxda, roca
gaiazres rom `ai Turme me xalxis azris meSinia, Turme
eg maCerebs~ da miuxedavad am gaazrebisa mainc agrZe­
leben igive cxovrebas.
me lamisaa yvirili damewyo
_ jeikob! saWiroa jeikob, saWiro Tvalebis gaxelva!
saWiroa sakuTar cxvirs iqiT samyaros danaxva da kri­
tikis SiSiT Seqmnili prizmis moSoreba!
winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, adamiani daRupuli iqneba,
jeikob.
jeikobs TvalebSi cecxli gauCnda, mTeli enTuziaz­
miT wamoxta da oTaxSi ramodenime warweraze mimiTiTa.
_ ageraa ai aq aris is afirmaciebi,romlebic daexma­
reba xalxs am SiSebis moSorebaSi, daexmareba maT Sina­
gani Zalis aRmoCenaSi da cxovrebis xarisxis gaumjobe­
sebaSi.
`me SemiZlia vakeTo is, rac momindeba~.
`me da mxolod me vmarTav sakuTar cxovrebas~.
`me var Zlieri da individualuri pirovneba~.
...me viReb pasuxismgeblobas vakeTo is, rac me minda,
da ara is, rac xalxs unda, rom vakeTo~.
ai eseni megobaro, es is winadadebebia, romelTa xSi­
ri da regularuli gameorebiT, adamians mouva saWiro
insaiTebi da Sedegad is daiRwevs Tavs sakuTar instin­
qturi SiSebisgan.
axla ki modi ubralod SevajamoT
_ kargi, jeikob.
_ me piradad afirmaciebs dReSi orjer vakeTeb,
TiTo jerze ki 3 afirmacias vasruleb, TiTo maTgans
5-5 wuTis ganmavlobaSi. me am afirmaciebs, am SerCeul
winadadebebs daaxloebiT 2 Tvis ganmavlobaSi vimeoreb,
ZiriTadad iqamde sanam insaiTi ar momiva an sanam ar Se­

43

Vako
 vamCnev,rom afirmaciebi realobaSi Cemi yoveldRiuri
qcevebiT momyavs. xolo, rac Seexeba Cems moswavleebs
imaT vinc jerac ecnoba afirmaciesb vurCev: daiwyos
mxolod erTi maTganiT da dReSi sul raRac 5 wuTi
aCuqos mas.
axla ki modi sxva Temaze gadavideT.

rkinis mzera

jeikobma wina Tema TiTqos da bolomde amowura da

ukve sxva, kidev ufro saintereso Temaze gadasvla
moindoma. am Cemma megobarma saubris dawyebamde ise
Semomxeda, rom misi mzeridan raRac Zala SevigrZeni,
Cveulebrivi adamiani aseT mzeras verc gauZlebda, mas
an SeeSindeboda, an Zalian Sercxveboda da aucileblad
gaixedeboda gverdiT, ecdeboda gaqceuliyo jeikobis
rkinis Semoxedvisgan, rogoric simarTle giTxraT,
aRarc ki maxsovs bolos rodis vnaxe.
_ rkinis mzera megobaro, Zalian saintereso da
mniSnvelovani Temaa, samwuxaroa, magram mas arsad ar
gvaswavlian da masze arsad ar saubroben. Sen warmoi­
dgine rkinis mzeris daxmarebiT adamians SeuZlia sxvis
TvalebSi emociebi amoikiTxos, Sinagani diskomforti
Seuqmnas, an bolos da bolos sakuTari Zala daanaxos
da amave mzeris gamomuSavebas sul raRac erTi Tve
Wirdeba. sul raRac 30 dRe da adamians kidev erTi,
Zalian mniSvnelovani da ulevi Zalis momcemi unari
gamoumuSavdeba.

44

Vako
 maSin, roca axali dawyebuli mqonda rkinis mzeris
varjiSebi, SevamCnie Tu ramdeni adamiani gaurboda
TvalebSi pirdapir yurebas. xalxis umravlesoba 2 wa­
msac ki ver miyurebda TvalebSi, da Tu gamoCndebo­
da iseTi visac didxans SeeZlo pirdapir eyurebina,
am saqcieliT imdenad did diskomforts miqmnida, rom
iZulebuli vxdebodi gverdiT gamexeda. Tumca es yve­
laferi erT Tviani varjiSis mere Seicvala, sul ra­
Rac 30 dReSi, imdenad darwmunebuli viyavi sakuTar
TavSi, rom Cem axal SesaZleblobebs yvelgan viyenebdi,
metroSi mowonebul mandilosans mTeli TavdajerebiT
da enTuziazmiT vuyurebdi, xalxTan saubrisas ki vamC­
nevdi, rom umravlesoba maTgani, TvalebSi didxans ver
miyurebs. rkinis mzeris gamomuSavebis Semdeg, SevamC­
nie, rom xalxi CemTan saubrisas metad dakvirvebuli
xdeba, SevamCnie rom maT Cemi motyuebac ki uZnelde­
baT, mokled me ramdenic ar unda gelaprako Tu ras
moitans rkinis mzeris kursi, ajobebs ubralod usi­
tyvod daiwyo masze varjiSi da SedegebiT, Wkuidan ga­
daxvide.
_ ha moyevi ra varjiSebia saWiro, gamagebine ukve!
_ Zalian advili da elementaruli varjiSebi dag­
vWirdeba.
mokled, vdgebiT sarkis win da vuyurebT sakuTar
Tvalebs gauCereblad, daxamxamebis gareSe 1 wuTis gan­
mavlobaSi, da amas vimeorebT 5-jer zedized, anu dade­
qi sarkis win, 1 wuTi uyure sakuTar Tvalebs, sxvagan
ar gaixedo, mere daisvene 20-30 wami da gaimeore wina
moqmedeba.
_ mniSvneloba aqvs Tu romel Tvals unda vuyuroT?
_ ki marjvenas (sakuTari anareklis marcxena Tvals,
anu sarkeSi marcxena mxares).

45

Vako
 am Temaze ukve vilaparake, marjvena TvalSi yure­
bisas bevrad ufro advilia dialogze koncentrireba.
yuradReba ar gagirbis da adamians Senze kargi msmene­
lis warmodgena eqmneba.
_ kargi, da mere?
_ mere is, rom rkinis mzeris wavarjiSeba kidev bevr­
nairad SeiZleba.
_ rogor?
_ rogor da SegviZlia ZaRlebs vuyuroT xolme, Za­
lian sasacilo gamodis, roca ZaRls mTeli seriozu­
lobiT uyureb TvalebSi da mis reaqciebs akvirdebi,
is an gverdiT gawevs Tavs, an gakvirvebuli dagiwyebs
yurebas, SeiZleba Seni mzerisgan damalvac cados, zog
SemTxvevaSi ki saerTod oTaxidanac gava, da es yvela­
feri imitom, rom misTvis Zalian Zneli iqneba adamianis
mouSorebeli da TviTdajerebuli Semoxedvis atana.
kidev sasiamovno bonusi, rasac rkinis mzera mogv­
cems, TviTdajerebis momatebaa.
mokled, megobaro, rkinis mzeris gamomuSavebas ara­
feri seriozuli moqmedeba ar sWirdeba, ubralod ze­
moTxsenebuli elementaruli davaleba yoveldRiurad
unda SevasruloT, da eg aris.
meti arc araferi meTqmis, rame gainteresebs am Te­
maze, Tu SegviZlia sxva ramezec visaubroT?
_ jeikob Sen varjiSob xolme?
_ ki
_ konkretulad?
_ yovel dRe davrbivar xolme da SemiZlia am Tema­
zec gesaubro, Tu raTqmaunda xar dainteresebuli.
_ ki dainteresebuli var. gismen aba.

46

Vako
 sirbili

jeikobi taxtidan wamodga da mTxova, ukan gavyolo­

di. gzas erTad gavuyeviT, mis uzarmazar sasaxleSi. am
grZel derefnebSi, kedlebze mSvenieri naxatebiT da­
viwye tkboba, Tumca mxolod erTma maTganma SeZlo Cemi
Rrma interesis gamowveva:patara gogona TojiniT xel­
Si mwoliare uzarmazari buldogis win idga. ZaRls kbi­
lebi hqonda gamoCenili, aSkarad emuqreboda am patara
angelozs, aniSnebda rom kidev erTi nabiji, gogonasT­
vis bolo aRmoCndeboda, Tumca am mamaci mandilosanis
TvalebSi ukve miRebuli gadawyvetileba Canda. miuxe­
davad yvelafrisa, miuxedavad am ZaRlis sibrazisa, is
mainc miuaxlovdeboda mas da aucileblad moeferebo­
da.
es naxati genialuri adamianis, Teodor dostoevskis
erT romans maxsenebda _ `неточка незванова~.
derefanSi siarulisas jeikobi cdilobda yvela na­
xatis mokle istoria moeyola:
_ es naxati megobaro, italielma mxatvarma maCuqa. ai
mis gverdiT, rom aris, espaneTSi auqcionze SeviZine. es
ki (jeikobma yvelaze maRla dakidul naxatze mimiTiTa)
es Cemma saukeTeso megobarma 20 wlis asakSi maCuqa.
ase, naxatebis istoriebis moyolaSi, me da jeikobi
kidev erT karebs mivadeqiT. kari gavaRe Tu ara, uzar­
mazar darbazSi aRmovCndi. SigniT sarbeni bilikebi, ve­
losipedebi da mravali sxva trenaJori damxvda, xolo
darbazis maRla, Weris adgilas ki, sicariele iyo, qve­
vidan muqi cisferi ca moCanda Tavis TeTr Rrubleb­
Tan erTad, xolo iataki brwyinavda Tavisi sisufTaviT.
fonad wynari klasikuri musikis xma mesmoda. ah da­
rwmunebuli var am konkretuli momentidan mSvenieri
47

Vako
 naxatis Seqmna SeiZleboda, naxatisa, sadac savarjiSo
darbazis SemosasvlelSi sikvdili idga Tavis Sav mo­
sasxamSi, Sig oTaxSi ki, kedlebze karebis marjvena da
marcxena mxares moTavsebul sarkeebSi, ca Tavis Rru­
blebiTurT irekleboda. xolo naxatis marjvena mxa­
res, su-su odnav, sarbeni bilikis saxelurebi moCanda.
kargi, kargi ocnebebs SeveSvaT.
oTaxSi jer ar Sesulma, jeikobs Sevxede da misi
darbazi mTeli guliT Sevaqe.
`madlobao~.
ganaTebuli da bednieri TvalebiT miTxra man da mec
darbazSi patara mogzaurobas Sevudeqi. SigniT Sesul­
ma yvelafers ufro detalurad da yuradRebianad da­
vuwye Tvaliereba, jeikobi ki manamde gamosacvlelSi
Sevida da mTxova davlodebodi.
_ dagelodebi aba ras vizam, sikvdili xom yovelTvis
elodeba Tavis msxverpls.
cota ar iyos, Cumad warmovTqvi da isev darbazis
Tvalierebas davubrundi. TviTon darbazi patara si­
vrceebad iyo dayofili, kardio varjiSebisTvis, io­
gisTvis, fizikuri datvirTvisTvis da a.S.
mokled, yvelaferi Tavis adgilze elaga da am Tva­
lierebis periodSi, rogorc iqna jeikobis dabruneba­
sac moveswari.
is ukve sportul formaSi iyo gamowyobili da am
tansacmelSi bevrad ufro axalgazrda adamianis war­
modgenas mitovebda, xolo TviTon jeikobs saxeze
etyoboda, rom sportul tansacmelSi, TviTonac axal­
gazrdulad grZnobda Tavs.
_ ha daviwyoT varjiSi?
enegriulad SemomZaxa jeikobma.
_ modi, me ubralod giyureb kargi?

48

Vako
 jeikobi sarben bilikze dadga, nel siCqareze daayena
da mTxova misgan marjvniv, sarkesTan zurgiT mimar­
Tul skamze davmjdariyavi. man zrdilobianad amixsna
is, rom, Tu mase davjdebodi, is Tavisuflad SeZlebda
CemTan saubarsac da sirbils erTroulad, mec raT­
qmaunda davujere da skamze davjeqi.
_ kargad mokalaTdi, sakmaod saintereso dialogi
gvelis.
simarTle giTxraT jeikobisTvis arc araferi miTq­
vams da, ratomRac, sul sxva raRacaze daviwye fiqri, me
mTeli guliT mominda, rom viRac mxatvars, es konkre­
tuli momenti, Cemi da jeikobis dialogisa, Tavis ti­
loze aesaxa, ubralod warmoidgineT situacia sadac,
sarben bilikze moxuci sporcmeni vajiSobs, gverdiT
ki fexi fexze gadadebuli TviT misi udidebulesoba
sikvdili Sehyurebs.
_ megobaro mismen?
_ ki, ki, jeikob, gismen
_ me jer kidev bavSvobidanve ganagoni mqonda, rom
warmatebuli xalxi yoveldRiurad iRviZebs dilis 5
saaTze, varjiSobs da mTeli enTuziazmiT xvdeba axlad
damdgar dRes. Tumca 22 wlamde imdenad zarmaci da
Zilis guda viyavi, rom universitetis gamocdebsac ki
vacdendi, oRondac Zili gamegrZelebina, oRondac lo­
ginidan ar avmdgariyavi da araferi mekeTebina. sir­
bilze xom saerTod ar maqvs saubari, albaT 12 wli­
dan 22 wlamde Tu odesme sadme gaviqceodi, namdvili
katastrofa unda momxdariyo. simarTle giTxra daJe
sirbilis azrsac ki ver vxvdebodi `rao? sirbilio? fu
fu moaSore~
ai ase vcxovrobdi maSin. magram, roca metamorfoze­
bi damewyo, roca cxovrebis gamosworeba daviwye, cudi

49

Vako
 Cvevebi moviSore da zogadad axlad davibade, miviRe
kargad gaazrebuli gadawyvetileba dilis 5 saaTze
gaRviZebasa da sirbilTan dakavSirebiT.
_ mere, gamovida?
_ uime Zalian gamiWirda da didi dro damWirda amis
misaRwevad. adre 12 saaTamde meZina xolme da es 5 saaTze
gaRviZeba raRac ararealurad mimaCnda da praqtikaSic
ar gamomdioda. jer iyo da, maRviZara rom gamaRviZeb­
da, Tvals gavaxeldi, gavTiSavdi am stresers da Zils
vubrundebodi, Semdeg vcdilobdi Rame gadameTenebina,
Tumca arc es gamomdioda, 2-3 saaTze mainc viZinebdi.
am nabijiT piriqiT gavauarese situacia, radgan meore
dRes ukve saRamos 6 saaTamde meZina xolme da dRe-Ra­
mec ameria. bolos, rogorc iqna mivxvdi, rom ase vera­
fers mivaRwev da davayene maRviZara dilis 9 saaTze!
_ mere?
_ mere ra da mainc ver gaviRviZe!
_ kargi raa!
_ ho, aba! verc 9=ze avdeqi da sabolood mivedi iqam­
de, rom Cems dRiurSi adre gaRviZebis gegma Sevadgine
da Sen warmoidgine, im momentidan dRemde yvelaze dis­
ciplinirebuli adamiani var, maT Soris visac vicnob.
am gegmis daxmarebiT SevZeli axali, Zalian magari Cve­
vebis gamomuSaveba, rogorebicaa adre gaRviZeba,sirbi­
li, zomiereba yvelaferSi da sxva.
_ ki magram, aseTi ra gegma Cawere?
_ araferi gansakuTrebuli! jer Sevadgine patara
samotivacio cxrili,ai, naxe. Sens gverdiT, rom kara­
daa, pirvelive ujra gamoswie da, SigniT, rom furceli
devs is aiRe.
mec usityvod wamovdeqi, ori nabiji gadavdgi mTlia­
nad steklosgan damzadebuli karadisken da axlos mi­

50

Vako
 sulma, gaviazre is, rom es karadac ki imdenad kargad
iyo Serwymuli darbazis interierTan, rom misi arse­
bobac ki ar SemimCnevia, mokled, gamovaRe pirvelive
ujra da SigniT myofi, erTi Cveulebrivi furceli ga­
movitane, sadac raRac cxrili iyo asaxuli. TavSi ewe­
ra cxrilis dasaxeleba _ `sirbili~
Semdeg or zolSi ki ewera amave moqmedebis plusebi
da minusebi.
minusebSi Cawerili iyo sul ori ram _ `adre adgoma
da diskomforti~
xolo rac Seexeba pliusebs iq wavikiTxe:
1) janmrTeloba,
2) gamZleoba,
3) disciplina,
4) gamowveva,
5) siamaye sakuTari rekordebis gaumjobesebiT,
6) lamazi tani...
da kidv 20-de sxva punqti.
_ kargi, jeikob, gasagebia, Sen Seadgine cxrili, Sem­
deg ra qeni?
_ es cxrili loginis win davikide da vcdilobdi,
dReSi ramdenjerme wamekiTxa iqamde sanam marTlac ar
davizepirebdi. Semdegi Cemi moqmedeba ki maRviZaris
Cemgan moSorebiT dadeba iyo: roca darekavda logini­
dan adgoma momiwevda mis gasaTiSad, aq ki ukve is iyo
mTavari, rom maRviZaris gaTiSvis mere isev ar davwo­
liliyavi da Zili ar gamegrZelebina, Tumca ukve fexze
amdgars bevrad ufro giadvildeba gamofxizleba.
Semdegi etapi iyo, Zilis win 20-30-jer patara afir­
maciis gameoreba.
`xval vdgebi dilis 8 saaTze da mivdivar sarbenad~.
_ mere am yvelaferma imoqmeda?

51

Vako
 _ ras ambob diliT gaRviZebuls aseTi motivacia jer
ar mqonia, loginidan amdgarma xel-piri davibane, gamo­
fxizlebisTvis 1 Wiqa wyali davlie, kbilebi gavixexe,
sportuli tansacmeli Cavicvi da pozitiuri azrebiT
aRsavse gavedi sarbenad. kargad maxsovs am pirvelive
savarjiSo dRes, patara wvima modioda, Tumca arc aman
SeZlo Cemi SeCereba. sirbilis dawyebamde rac ki Si­
nagani Zala mqonda movikrife, Tavi xelSi aviyvane da
daviwye...
mesmis, SeiZleba ifiqro, ariqa, gegma dawera da mTe­
li qalaqi moirbinao, miT umetes, rom ase energiulad
SeZlo gaRviZebao, Tumca mase sulac ar iyo. me virbine
sul raRac sam wuT naxevari, ufroswored sul raRac
sam wuT naxevarSi me ukve saxlSi viyavi, vixrCobodi da
loginze migdebuli, RmerTs gadarCenas vexvewebodi,
paralelurad ki mamaCemis dacinvas vismendi `ra iyo,
Semorbenaze iyavi?~
da zustad maSin mTeli warmodgena gamiqra sakuTar
Zalebze, am droisTvis sigaretis moweva sul raRac 2
Tvis mitovebuli mqonda,roca 12 wlidan 22 mde veweo­
di. Tumca gaviazre is, rom ara aqvs mniSvneloba garbe­
nil manZls. mTavari is iyo, rom me pirveli seriozuli
da gaazrebuli nabiji gadavdgi, es ki namdvilad yvela­
ze Zmelia adamianisaTvis.
Semdeg ukve Cems 30 dRian sirbilis cxrilSi pirveli
Sesrulebuli dRec davapliuse, dRis miznebSi `sirbi­
lis~ punqtic gadavxaze da mTeli dRe sakuTari TaviT
siamayes davuTme.
simarTle giTxra, pirveli 7 dRe Zalian miWirda,
yovelTvis miwevda Tavis daZaleba, miWirda adre ad­
goma, Tumca yovel dRe axal-axal miRwevebs vxedavdi
da eg mavsebda motivaciiT. Semdeg ki, daaxloebiT me-

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Vako
 16 dRes, fexi daviziane, logins Zlierad mivartyi da
quslze kani aviZre. imdenad mtkioda, rom siarulSic
miSlida xels. magram me ukve vicodi,rom Cems gadawy­
vetilebas sirbilTan dakavSirebiT veraferi SeuSlida
xels; me mainc vagrZelebdi adre gaRviZebas da var­
jiSs, wvimaSic gamovdiodi da vcdilobdi sul axal-a­
xali rekordebi damesva, vcdilobdi yovelTvis meti
gamerbina da sabolood, rogorc iqna movida 21-e dRe.
kargad maxsovs, ukve maRviZaramde 5 wuTiT adre gameR­
viZa da maSin mivxvdi, rom movida dro, sakuTari Zalebi
Sememowmebina da ai pirvelad cxovrebaSi 3 kilometri
gavirbine. es iyo raRac saocari grZnoba, Cems bednie­
rebas, Cems Tavdajerebas sazRvrebi ar gaaCnda.
_ da mere?
_ mere ukve, 8 saaTze ki ara, 7-ze gaRviZeba daviwye.
daaxloebiT yovel 10-15 dReSi erTi saaTiT adre gaR­
viZebas vcdilobdi da sabolood mivedi iqamde, rom
dilis 5 saaTze, sixaruliT, enTuziazmiT da motiva­
ciiT aRsavse viRviZebdi.
_ jeikob, maraTonze ras ityvi?
_ sirbilis dawyebidan 1 welSi 21-kilometriani na­
xevarmaraToni gavirbine, Semdeg wels ki ukve 42 kilo­
metri gauCereblad.
dRes ukve Cems asakSic ki yovel wliurad axali ga­
mowvevebis miRebas vcdilob...
amiT ici risi Tqma minda?
ara imis, rom ai ra magari var, radgan 42 kilometri
gavirbine, Cemze bevrad magrebic arseboben!
aramed imis, rom me vekuTvnodi xalxis im wres,
romlebic mudam fiqroben `ai xval daviwyeb sirbils~
`orSabaTidan daviwyeb~ da ase moqmedebaSi gadausvle­
lad, sul fiqr-fiqrSi atareben sakuTar cxov­rebas.

53

Vako
 me imis Tqma minda, rom adamianma ubralod unda
daiwyo!
ubralod unda awio traki, gaamzado elementaruli
samotivacio cxrili, Seadgino elementaruli 30 dRia­
ni sirbilisa, Tu varjiSis cxrili da daiwyo moqmedeba!
me movrCi, megobaro, axla raze visaubroT?
_ ar vici razec ginda.

komfortis zona

_ kargi, modi maSin komfortis zonaze visaubroT.

jeikobma sirbili daasrula, sarbeni biliki gaaCera
da tabloze damanaxa, rom 14 kilomentri gaerbina. Sem­
deg abazanaSi Sevida da mec raRa damrCenoda, mis lo­
dinSi sakuTar azrebs gavyevi. komfortis zonaze fiqr­
ma Cemi azrebi sakuTar koleqciis fiqrebSi gadamiyvana.
diax, mec maqvs koleqcia, yvelasgan gansxvavebuli da
yvelaze unikaluri -`adamianTa bolo SegrZneba~.
Cemi koleqcia,CemTan nakontaqtevi xalxis bolo
SegrZnebebi TiTqmis mTlianad sinanulisgan Sedgeba.
xalxi nanobs ausrulebel ocnebebsa da miznebs, nanobs
tyuilad dakargul dros da sxva mraval rames. simarT­
le giTxraT sinanulisTvis mizezebi ar daileva, Tumca
am koleqciaSi aris sxva emociebic, romlebic mTel ko­
leqcias anaTeben, romlebic, miuxedavad maT patron­
Ta fizikuri sikvdilisa, seriozul energias asxiveben
da yvela danarCeni grZnobebisgan gamoiyofian: samwu­
xaroa, magram mudmivad guli mwydeba, rodesac aseTi
dadebiTad datenili xalxis dro modis. am xalxma Zi­

54

Vako
 riTadad SeZles sakuTari potencialis gamovlena da
raTmaunda sakuTari bednierebis povnac.
erTaderTi, rac yvela am adamians aerTianebs, es
aris komfortis zonidan mudmivi gamosvla da zustad
amitomacaa, rom maTi ukanaskneli grZnobebi mTel Cems
koleqcias anaTeben, zustad amitomaa, rom maTi wayvana
yvelaze metad menaneba.
me ukve vicodi, rom Zalian mniSvnelovani dialogis
gamarTva momiwevda jeikobTan erTad, radgan komfor­
tis zona da misi datoveba, adamianisTvis gadamwyvet
rols TamaSobs...
amasobaSi jeikobic abazanidan gamovida da xelis
nazi JestiT mTxova Tan gavyolodi. erTad gavudeqiT
gzas da ukve vicodi, rom kidev erT saintereso oTaxSi
Semiyvanda, aqedan gamomdinare sakmaod daintrigebu­
lic aRmovCndi, neta, axla ra oTaxi unda maCvenos?
_ jeikob, axla sad mivdivarT?
_ Cems baRs gaCveneb, megobaro.
rogorc iqna, me da jeikobma kidev erTi grZeli de­
refani gaviareT da Cems Tvalwin umSvenieresi simwvane
gamoCnda, am baRis Sesasvleli karebic ki simwvaniT iyo
savse. SigniT Sesulma ki nair-nairi yvavilebi davinaxe,
yvela erTmaneTze lamazi da sicocxliT savse, am mTel
simwvanes ki Weridan, TviT uZlieresi varskvlavis, mzis
Suqi urtyamda. mokled am mSvenier adgils arc sinaT­
le aklda arc movla-patronoba.
am silamazis Semxedvare cota xans TiTqos gaviTiSe
kidec.
_ dabrundi, megobaro, nu gayevi fiqrebs.
_ aq var, ar wavsulvar arsad da arc azrebs gavyo­
lilvar. aq ratom momiyvane jeikob?
_ es adgili mSvenieri magaliTia komfortis zonidan
gamosvlisa, Sens Tvalwin axla aris mSvenieri patara

55

Vako
 baRi, ukve damwifebuli da sakuTari bunebiT aRsavse,
Tumca es baRi yovelTvis aseTi ar yofila; Tavidan sul­
-sul pirvelad, am cariel oTaxSi Zalian didi raode­
nobiT mcenare davTese, simarTle giTxra, simwvaneSi ma­
Sin araferi gamegeboda da arc axla var profesionali,
Tumca mainc vecdebi Cems enaze agixsna is rac viswavle.
_ kargi, jeikob, gismen.
_ yvela is mcenare, yvela is yvavili, romlebsac axla
xedav, ibrZoda imisTvis, rom aseTi mSvenieri samyaros
nawili gamxdariyo. yvela maTgani erT dros mudmivad
gamodioda sakuTari komfortis zonidan.
_ jer gaugebaria, jeikob!
jeikobma gaiRima da wynarad ganagrZo saubari
_ Tavdapirvelad aq bevrad meti mcenare iyo. Cemi
gaTvlebiT, daRupulia mTeli populaciis daaxloe­
biT 95%. axsna mxolod erTia: roca mcenareebma zrda
daiwyes, maT mouwiaT erTmaneTs Soris mzis SuqisTvis
brZola. es iyo erTqgvari brZola gadarCenisaTvis, sa­
dac CrdilSi, uSuqobaSi darCenili mcenare, avtomatu­
rad daRupulTa sias amatebda, xolo is romelic mzis
Suqs miiRebda ganagrZebda arsebobas.
megobaro, dRes ukve lamaz, mSvenier mcenares, adre
maqsimaluri Zalisxmevis gamoCena uwevda, axla ki Tvi­
Ton Sedegi gvaCvenebs, rom yvela gadarCenili mcenaris
aseTi mondomebas amaod ar Cauvlia.
modi erT magaliTsac mogiyvan: Sors rom ar viaro
minda Cems sayvarel bebiaze mogiyve.
rac Tavi maxsovs, bebiaCemi erT patara qalaqSi cxo­
vrobs, Zalian iSviaTad qalaqidan, rom sadme gadiodes
da TiTqmis mTeli cxovrebaa, rac erT saavamdyofoSi
eqTanad muSaobs. dabali xelfasi, karieruli da pirov­
nuli zrdis aranairi perspeqtivebi, mokled, yvelafe­

56

Vako
 ri minimalur donemdea miyvanili. amiT imis Tqma minda,
rom Cem sayvarel bebos Tavisi komfortis zona aqvs
Seqmnili.
saxli-samsaxuri, samsaxuri-saxli... megobaro kargad
gamige, aseTi cxovrebis tempi, stili, sulac ar aris
cudi, Tumca ar gamoadgeba imas vinc metisken miiswra­
fvis, vinc realurad kolosaluri SedegebisTvis ibr­
Zvis, visac gansakuTrebuli miznebis simwriT, ofliTa
da sisxliT miRweva mouwevs. mokled, yvela masStabu­
rad moazrovne adamiani, yoveldRiurad dilidan Ra­
memde unda tovebdes Tavis komfortis zonas.
isini ar unda eguebodnen dabal anazRaurebad sam­
saxurebs, ar unda ijdnen erT adgilze da ar unda mi­
diodnen kompromisze TavianT im droindel realobas­
Tan, romelic maT ar akmayofilebs.
jeikobma saubari Sewyvita, WiqaSi rZe daisxa da, sa­
nam smas Seudgeboda mkiTxa, mainteresebda Tu ara rai­
me kidev am TemasTan dakavSirebiT, mec momenti gamo­
viyene da:
_ jeikob anu Sen ginda miTxra, rom adamianma mudmi­
vad unda akeTos is, rac diskomforTs Seuqmnis?
_ zustad!
warmoTqva man da ulvaSebidan rZe moiwminda.
zustad megobaro, sxvanairad arc gamova, imisTvis,
rom Cven raime did miznebs mivaRwioT, mudmivad unda
gamovideT Cveni komfortis zonidan.
_ kargi da, rogor xdeba eg?
_ ai magaliTad: me var xeliT memarcene adamiani, ba­
vSvobaSi sul marcxena xeliT vwerdi an vxatavdi an
vWamdi. axla ki naxe, ra SemiZlia...
jeikobi karadasTan mivida, patara kari gamoaRo,
kalami da furceli gamoitana, magidasTan dajda, kala­

57

Vako
 mi marjvena xelSi daiWira da weras Seudga. Semdeg ki
igive kalami ukve marcxena xelSi gadaitana da isev igi­
ve fokusi Caatara, Semdeg isev marjvenaTi da ase iqad­
me sanam patara winadadebis wera ar daasrula...
_ gasagebia, rom ori xeliT SegiZlia wera, magram
amiT risi Tqma ginda?
_ imis, rom komfortis zonidan gamosvlam, konkre­
tulad ki yovel dRe 3-3 afirmaciis marjvena xeliT
Caweram, miuxedavad im diskomfortisa, romelsac am
dros vgrZnobdi, maswavla orive xeliT wera. ai, zus­
tad es aris komfortis zonidan gamosvla.
_ ver mivxvdi...
_ sul Tavidan, roca marjvena xeliT wera daviwye,
imdenad cudi kaligrafia mqonda, imdenad cud karaku­
lebs vxatavdi, rom Tavis danebebis garda araferze
vfiqrobdi. simarTle giTxra, mTeli organizmi mewina­
aRmdegeboda, xeli ar memorCileboda, gegoneboda sx­
visi TiTebiT miwevda wera da ara Cemi xeliT, Tumca me
mainc davZlie eg dabrkolebebi, davaZale sakuTar Tavs
bolomde mimeyvana es saqme da sabolood mainc viswav­
le amave xeliT lamazad da sasiamovnod wera...
es iyo komfortis zonidan gamosvlis erT-erTi gza,
romelzec ra Tqma unda me ar SevCerebulvar _ male­
ve daviwye kbilebis marjvena xeliT gaxexva, damijere,
megobaro, am moqmedebiT aranair siamovneas ar vRe­
bulobdi, es yvelaferi Cveni organizmisTvis imdenad
ucxoa, rom is mTeli ZalebiT ibrZvis amave moqmedebe­
bis (komfortis zonidan gamosvlis) Sesawyvetad. mok­
led, 2 TveSi ukve kargi kaligrafia mqonda gamomuSa­
vebuli, arc wera miWirda, arc kbilis gaxexva da arc
marjvena xeliT Wama da am Cemi axali SesaZleblobebis
saxalxod gamoCenisgan siamovnebasac vRebulobdi.

58

Vako
 metroSi jdomisas xan marcxena, xan marjvena xeliT
vwerdi xolme raRaceebs, riTic irgvliv myof xalxs
vakvirvebdi. erTxel ki amave moqmedebis dros, metro­
Si Cem win mjdomma ufrosma, babuaCemis asakis kacma
daminaxa Tu rogor vwerdi orive xeliT raRaceebs, Se­
momxeda da Tavi pativiscemis niSnad damixara, mec igi­
ve JestiT vupasuxe da isev sakuTar saqmes, ukve gaxare­
buli da Sinagani kmayofilebis grZnobiT davubrundi.
mokled, aseTma komfortis zonidan gamosvlam,
sakmaod didi Sedegebi momitana da Sen warmoidgine ra
moxdeba, Tu adamiani sakuTari komfortis zonis dato­
vebas, ufro maRal sibrtyeebze aiyvans?
_ kargi, kargi, es yvelaferi gasagebia. da me maswa­
vli orive xeliT weras, jeikob?
_ ki megobaro,oRond jer es Tema davasruloT, kar­
gi?
_ kargi, gismen, megobaro...
hah, megobaro, ase jer aravisTvis ar mimimarTavs,
magram aq Tavs ver Sevikavebdi. am Wkvian adamians unda,
rom raRac maswavlos, mas unda, rom misi unikaluri ga­
mocdileba viRacam mainc gaiziaros, gamoiyenos Tavis
cxovrebaSi da raRac gansakuTrebuli mainc gaakeTos,
zustad amitomac mivmarTe mas aseTi saxeliT. iciT be­
vri minaxavs vinc sxvisi Wkuis swavlebiTaa dakavebuli:
egeTi xalxis umravlesoba, sxvis cxovrebaSi cxviris
CayofiTaa dainteresebuli, jeikobi ki maT ar hgavs,
is mTeli suliTa da guliT cdilobs gadmogvces is
mniSvnelovani da Tundac naklebad mniSvnelovani cxo­
vrebiseuli gamocdileba imisaTvis, rom Cven cxovreba
gagviadvildes.
Cemsa da jeikobs Soris patara pauzis momenti dad­
ga, is yvavilebs aTvalieebda da cota xanSi erT Zalian

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Vako
 patara yvavils miuaxlovda, es pawuka yvavili Zalian
gawvalebuli da datanjuli Canda. maSin, roca mis irg­
vliv yvelaferi ayvavebuli, janmrTeli da Zlieri iyo,
mas gadarCenisTvis uxdeboda brZola.
jeikobma TvalebSi Semomxeda da CaxleCili, gul­
dawyvetili xmiT warmoTqva:
_ es patara, didi xania asea da zogjer, xalxis umra­
vlesobasac ki maxsenebs.
umravlesobas dRes uWirs, isini dRiTi-dRe arse­
bobisTvis ibrZvian, wvaloben, sakuTar suls aCumeben,
ocnebebs aZineben da amboben, rom am saZageli situa­
ciidan gamosavals ver xedaven.
xalxis umravlesoba, samwuxaroa magram gauazreblad
irCevs cxovrebis tanjva da wvalebaSi gatarebas...
_ axla macade, jeikob, Sen ginda Tqva, rom gaWirve­
buli adamiani TviTon irCevs autanel cxovrebas?
cota gakvirvebulma da odnav gabrazebulmac ­vkiTxe.
jeikobma wynarad da auCqareblad mipasuxa
_ momismine, megobaro, gaWirvebulTa umravlesobas
miaCnia, rom maT cxovrebaSi ar gaumarTlaT, maT hgo­
nia, rom isini arc niWiT arc gansakuTrebuli intele­
qtiT ar gamoirCevian sxvebisgan. maT odesRac Tavis
bavSvobaSi daijeres es yvelaferi da irwmunes is, rom
cxovrebaSi verafers Secvlian.
samwuxaroa magram eseT xalxs umetes wilad miaCnia,
rom maT siZneleebSi mudam viRac aris damnaSave. Sen
warmoidgine, es iseTi xalxia, romlebsac mudam yvela­
ferze aqvs pasuxi da isini gaucnobiereblad gaurbian
pasuxismgeblobas...
_ memgoni migixvdi, ise marTali xar, ufro advilia
raRac gadaabralo sxvas, vidre mTeli pasuxismgebloba
sakuTar Tavze aiRo.

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Vako
 _ ra Tqma unda, Sen ggonia advilia adamianma saku­
Tar TavSi ipovos raRac xarvezi? amas megobaro didi
pasuxismgebloba Wirdeba...
ui, mapatie, isev gaveqeci Temas, modi amazec visau­
broT oRond cota mogvianebiT, axla ki SevajamoT Cve­
ni mTavari Tema.
gaWirvebulni, rogorc ukve vTqvi, TviTon irCeven
am gzas, maTi komfortis zonaa sxvaze pasuxismgeblobis
da raime movaleobis gadatana, maTi komfortis zonaa
sakuTari potencialis damalva da siRaribeSi cxovreba
maSin, roca dRes ara erTi magaliTi gvyavs ukiduresi
siRaribidan wamosuli cnobili milionrebisa da zoga­
dad warmatebuli xalxisa.
mokled!
yovel dRe komfortis zonidan gamosvliT, Cvens
cxovrebaSi namdvili saocrebebi moxdeba!

orive xeliT wera

jeikobma isev yvavilebiT tkboba ganagrZo. is isev

Tavis Seqmnil bunebas Sehyurebda da Rrma fiqris Sem­
deg gulwrfeli RimiliT miTxra:
_ madloba, rom 77 weli macade. vici da Zalian kar­
gad mesmis, rom es ar aris, raRac Zalian didi asaki,
magram me, Cemi dro sakmaod kargad gamoviyene.
raRa davamato ar vici, jeikobis am sityvebis Semdeg,
cota ar iyos davibeni. iSviaTia adamiani, rom Cemi ma­
dlobeli yofiliyos, Tumca me Tavi xelSi aviyvane da
jeikobs misi mocemuli piroba Sevaxsene.

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Vako
 _ jeikob, aba gaixsene, Sen orive xeliT wera unda
maswavlo.
_ kargi ar aris problema, wamo sxva oTaxSi gadavi­
deT.
cota xanSi me da jeikobi isev naxatebiT savse grZel
derefanSi aRmovCndiT maleve daniSnulebis adgilsac
mivuaxlovdiT da Cems win kidev erTi oTaxis karebi
gamoCnda. ai aq, ukve jeikobis dapatiJebas aRarc ve­
lodi, kari pirdapir gamovaRe da saklaso tipis oTaxSi
aRmovCndi. oTaxi simarTle giTxraT sulac ar gavda
axlandeli skolebis Cveulebriv klasebs. aq yvelaferi
imdenad Tanamedrove iyo, rom gegoneboda mTeli ka­
cobriobis teqnologiuri simdidre am klasisTvis iyo
Seqmnili.
_ mogwons oTaxi megobaro?
_ ki magram, aseTi oTaxi rogor Seqmeni?
saidan es teqnologiebi?
saidan es momavlis mowyobilobebi?
_ bevri ram aqedan CemiT avawye, danarCenis SemqnaSi
ki Cemi gamomgonebelTa jgufi mexmareboda.
_ kargi, gasagebia, jeikob, modi saqmes SevudgeT.
jeikobma erT-erT merxTan dajdoma mTxova, momawo­
da ori kalami, erTi rveuli, dafas miuaxlovda, orive
xelSi TiTo-TiTo markeri aiRo da erTdroulad ori­
ve xeliT raRacis xatva daiwyo.
_ jeikob, ras akeTeb?
_ megobaro es Cveni pirveli gakveTilia, modi ubra­
lod cade orive xeliT raime figuris daxazva.
hah gamecina
_ amaze advili ra unda iyos, jeikob?
furceli gadavSale da idealuri wris xazvas mTeli
TavdajerebiT Sevudeqi, xelebi TiTqos TviTon asru­

62

Vako
 lebda Tavis saqmes da TviTon xazvis procesSi aTasi
azri TavisiT momdioda, me ukve winaswar vicodi Tu
ramdenad idealur wres davxazavdi da ai isic .........
.....
...
..
.
jeikobi momiaxlovda, Cems namuSevars Sexeda da
cota ar iyos damcinavad mkiTxa
_ amaze maxinji wre Tu arsebobs neta? wamo, axla me
gaCveneb.
jeikobma markerebi moimarjva da dafaze idealurad
swori, lamazi kvadrati daxaza da Semdeg igive Sede­
gamde misasvleli rCevac momca.
_ ici, ra qeni, megobaro?
_ aba?
_ am varjiSs dReSi 15 wuTi dauTme, ubralod orive
xeliT raimes daxatva cade da ar aqvs mniSvneloba imas
Tu, ris xatvas daiwyeb, raime geometriuli figuris,
Tu kosmosis. aq mniSvnelovani mxolod isaa, rom Sen
regularulad avarjiSo tvini orive xeliT muSaoba­
Si, Sedegs ki gpirdebi ukve ramodenime dReSi miiReb.
simarTle giTxra, es aris yvelaze swrafi da efeqtu­
ri gza meore xelis damorCilebisTvis, Tumca, me amave
praqtikebis periodSi ufro win wavedi.
_ anu?
_ anu erTi gasroliT ori Citi movxseni.
_ anu?! anu?!
_ anu marjvena xelis dasaufleblad me ara mxolod
xatva-xazvaSi vvarjiSobdi, aramed yoveldRiurad
afirmaciebsac ki viwerdi, nu ra Tqma unda meore anu
marjvena xeliT.

63
Vako
 _ anu?
_ anu megobaro, me yovel dRe vwerdi 3 afirmacias
marjvena xeliT, sadac TiTo afirmacia TiTo furcels
ikavebda. es iyo erTgvari varjiSi meore xeliT weraSi,
sadac erTdroulad Cems qvecnobiersa da tvinis mar­
cxena naxevarsferos vavarjiSebdi.
_ jeikob, gTxov gasagebad mesaubre!
_ karg, kargi, axla guldasmiT momismine.
_ gismen!
_ Cveni tvini, SeiZleba iTqvas, or nawilad iyofa
_ marjvena da marcxena naxevarsferoebad, umetes Sem­
TxvevaSi, memarjveneebs marcxena naxevar sfero aqvT
ufro ganviTarebuli vidre marjvena, xolo memarcxe­
neebs Sesabamisad piriqiT
_ da ras niSnavs es?
_ marcxena naxevarsfero ZiriTadad ­pasuxismgebelia
Semdegze: adamianis enobrivi SesaZleblobebi (anu maTi
aTvisebis da gamoyenebis SesaZleblobebi), is akontro­
lebs saubars, kiTxvisa da weris unars, is pasuxism­
gebelia cifrebis da saxelebis damaxsovrebis unarze,
marcxena naxevarsfero pasuxismgebelia adamianis iseve
rogorc logikur, aseve analiTikur azrovnebaze, da
am yvelaferTan erTad marcxena naxevarsfero marTavs
Cveni organizmis marjvena mxaris moZraobebs da mraval
sxva rames. xolo marjvena naxevarsfero ZiriTadad
Cvens intuiciazea pasuxismgebeli, is amuSavebs araver­
balur informacias, anu zustad misi daxmarebiT vge­
bulobT Cven sxvadasxva simboloebis azrs. aseve maszea
damokidebuli Cveni warmosaxvis unari ocnebebi da fan­
taziebi. is marTavs Cvens emociebsac.simarTle giTxra,
Cveni tvinis funqcionalebis CamoTvlas Tu Sevudgebi,
amas axla ki ara kidev ori cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi ver

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Vako
movaswreb da erTaderTi ris gamoc amas giyvebi, esaa
is, rom me minda gagagebino erTi mniSvnelovani ram,
meore xeliT wera-xatvis Seswavlisas, Cven paralelu­
rad sakuTar tvins vaZlierebT, sakuTar TavSi axal Se­
saZleblobebs vpoulobT da sruliad axal, CvenTvis
ucnob adamianad viqceviT. ai me piradad Zalian susti
viyavi maTematikaSi da saxelebis damaxsovrebaSi, axla
ki Tavisuflad SemiZlia yvela axalgazrdas Sevejibro
am saqmeSi. mokled, megobaro, sakuTar TavSi erTi una­
ris ganviTarebasTan erTad, paralelurad da avtoma­
turad Cven mraval sxva unarsac vanviTarebT.
sanam jeikobi saubrobda, ramdenime figuris daxaz­
vac movaswari, simarTle giTxraT, mcire winsvla ukve
metyoboda, kalami xelSi, raRac ucxod aRar meCvene­
boda da, rac mTavaria is Sinagani grZnoba, rom meore
xelis dauflebas ver SevZlebdi nel-nela miqreboda,
bolos da bolos am mokvdavma iswavla orive xeliT
wera da me ver SevZleb?
ukve saRamo xani modioda, me da jeikobma saklaso
oTaxi davtoveT da isev pirvel oTaxSi gadavinacvleT.
buxris win xelSi rZiT savse WiqebiT CamovjeqiT da ce­
cxlis als mojadoebulebiviT SevcqerodiT. Cemi axa­
li megobari, jeikobi, cecxls miSterebuli, aSkarad
­azrebs iyo gayolili.
sul cota xanSi mzem Casvla daiwyo, rac jeikobis
drois amowurvas niSnavda
_ jeikob!
wamovZaxe, is wamoxta da egreve xmamaRla mipasuxa
_ gismen?! ra iyo?
_ axla ra unda momiyve?
_ vfiqrob da ver virCev. ori varianti maqvs: medita­
cia da seqsualuri energia...
_ hm, amas fiqri rad unda jeikob?

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 seqsualuri energia

orive uceb movcocxldiT, me mosmenisTvis sruli

mzadyofna gamovacxade ,jeikobi ki am Temisgan gamow­
veul Sinagani eiforias damalvas cdilobda.
_ modi daviwyoT elementaruliT: se-qsu-a-lu-ri
e-ne-rgi-a aaaariiiss...
_ jeikob nu atrakeb, cota seriozulad gTxov!
_ kargi xo, mokled, megobaro, dRevandel dRes,
dRevandel realobaSi adamianTa umravlesobis seqsu­
aluri energia uazrod ixarjeba, Cven, axalgazrdebi,
kacebi, qalebi, ufrosebi, didebi da patarebi, mokled
yvela Cvengani gauazreblad vspobT sakuTar yvelaze
Zlier Zalas.
_ ahah jeikob, ukve vxvdebi, risi Tqmac ginda
_ aba?
_ cuRlutobas gulisxmob ara?
_ ki, zustad mag Temaze minda laparaki.
_ gismen!
_ rac ar unda gasakviri iyos, dRes yvelaze didi po­
pularobiT porno saitebi sargebloben, adamians miu­
xedavad misi asakisa, sqesisa da mravali sxva Tvisebisa
Tavisuflad SeuZlia Sevides, romelime porno sait­
ze da iq aisrulos yvela Tavisi seqsualuri fanta­
zia. umravlesoba Cvengani damijere, zustad amiT aris
dakavebuli.
_ da amaSi cuds ras xedav? xalxi xom ubralod Tavs
ikmayofilebs ara?
zogierTi am saSualebiT stresisgan anTavisuf­lebs
organizms, zogs ki banaluri martooba aiZulebs am
saqcielis Cadenas, bolos da bolos, jeikob, seqsiT
dakavebis saSualeba da SesaZlebloba yovelTvis ar
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Vako
 aris, da es maSin, roca sakuTari xeli yovelTvis Tan
dagyveba.
bolo winadadeba cota ironiulad warmovTqvi da
orives gagvecina, nu ra vqnaT, Znelia ar gagecinos
maSin, roca sikvdili da 77 wlis mamakaci cuRlutze
saubroben.
_ ki, ki da ki, marTali xar, megobaro, rogorc wesi
yvela CvenTagans Tavisi individualuri mizezi aqvs am
saqcielis gasakeTeblad da arc arafers vambob amis
winaaRmdeg, piriqiT yvelas vusurveb, rom yvelas Seer­
gos sakuTari Tavi, me sul sxva ramis Tqma minda.
me minda imis Tqma, rom pornom miCveva icis, xo, xo
miCveva, rac ar unda gasakviri iyos pornoze damokide­
bulTa raodenoba dRes Zalian didia da mec erT-erTi
maTgani viyavi, me imdonemdec viyavi misuli, rom Cvevad
mqonda gamomuSavebuli, yovel dRe ama Tu im porno
saitze Sesvla da cuRluti, zogjer iqamdec mivdiodi,
rom dReSi ramdenjermec vakeTebdi amas, maSin megoba­
ro arc TviTgaumjobesebaze vfiqrobdi, arc vvarji­
Sobdi da warmodgenac ki ar mqonda, Tu ramden ener­
gias vkargavdi am TiTqos da udanaSaulo saqcieliT.
mokled, megobaro, roca regularuli sirbili da­
viwye, ramdenime xanSi internetSi gadaveyare videos
TavSekavebis Tematikaze, im videoSi viRac axalgazrda
biWi yveboda Tu ra pliusebi moaqvs TavSekavebas, Tu
ramdenad mniSvnelovania is da ramxela motivaciiT ga­
vsebs yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi.
mokled, videos meore da mesamed yurebis Semdeg mec
vifiqre _ `nu ratomac ara,modi vcdi~. da Sevudeqi Ta­
vSekavebis gzas, gzas, sadac cuRluti ar daiSveboda...
pirvelma dRem sakmaod kargad Caiara, simarTle gi­
Txra, Cemi Tavis mikvirda Tu rogor SevZeli Tavis

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Vako
 Sekaveba, magram meore dRes pirvelive aRrZnebisas da­
vmarcxdi, ramac CemSi Sinagani ukmayofileba gamoiwvia,
ar mjeroda rom or dReze met xans ver gavZeli da
zustad amitom gamovimuSave 30 dRiani gegma -
TavSekavebis 30 dRe: davxaze cxrili, samotivacio
videoebs vuyure da daviwye.
_ mere ra qeni, gaZeli 30 dRe?
_ mxolod 8 dRe da 2 saaTi.
simarTle giTxra, eg iyo yvelaze Zneli 8 dRe da 2
saaTi Cems cxovrebaSi,
Tumca am siZnelesTan erTad Zalian didi pliusebis
SemCnevac SevZeli.
_ ra pliusebis?
_ TavSekavebis mesame dRes SevamCnie, rom sportSi
Zalian motivirebuli viyavi, Cemi pirveladi monaceme­
bi TavSekavebamde da mis Semdeg radikalurad gansxvav­
deboda erTmaneTisgan, es iyo ori sxvadasxva adamiani.
geficebi axalgaRviZebulzec ki energiiTa da motiva­
ciiT savse viyavi.
_ kargi da Semdeg ra qeni, kidev gaagrZele TavSeka­
veba?
_ ki kidev vcdilobdi 30 dRis gadatanas Tumca, zo­
gjer 3 dRes vZlebdi, zogjer 7-s, zogjer ki _ 11-s.
iyo dro, roca 15 dRezec avsulvar,Semdeg 23, Semdeg
ki _ mTeli 30. mokled mudam ufro met da met rezul­
tatamde mivdiodi da yvelaferi es imis gamo, rom re­
alurad vxedavdi Sedegebs am TavSekavebisgan, vimeoreb
zustad am TavSekavebis periodSi viyavi energiiTa da
motivaciiT savse. ah megobaro arasdros damaviwydeba,
erTxel erT-erTi TavSekavebis dros me-11 dRes, yve­

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Vako
 la mandilosani lamazi meCveneboda, absoliturad yve­
la momwonda, zogjer ki saerTod fsiqopaturi azrebi
momdioda TavSi _ `vinme xom ar gavitaco?~. da sxva
amaze uares raRaceebzec mifiqria, Tumca, miuxedavad
aseTi Zlieri moTxovnilebisa, TavSekavebis pliusebi
mainc imarjvebda minusebze.
_ eg yvelaferi gasagebia jeikob, axla ajobebs is
miTxra, Tu ra unda gaakeTos xalxma imisaTvis, rom Ta­
vSekavebis periodSi ar danebdnen sakuTar moTxovnile­
bebs da isev cuRluts ar Seudgnen?
_ aq mTavari isaa, rom adamianma kategoriulad ga­
dawyvito, Tu ramdeni dRiT apireb cuRlutisgan uaris
Tqmas. pirveli jerisTvis, merwmune 5 dRec sakmarisi
iqneba, imitom, rom ukve xuT dRian TavSekavebasac ki
moaqvs Zalian didi da SesamCnevi Sedegebi, xolo bo­
nusad SemiZlia giTxra is, rom pirveli 12-14 dRe Tav­
Sekavebis, yvelaze Znelia, Semdeg ki es procesi bevrad
ufro advili xdeba da Semdeg Sen aRar giwevs sakuTar
TavTan da sakuTar moTxovnilebebTan brZola. aseve
TavSekavebisTvis aucileblad unda vicodeT is, rom
aRrZnebis momenti (am dros yvelaze Znelia TavSekave­
ba) sul raRac 5-10 wuTi grZeldeba da mis gadasatanad
yvelaze kargi iqneba, Tu am zedmet energias varjiSSi
an raime aqtiur moqmedebaSi gadavitanT, merwmune, 10
Cveulebrivi azidvis gakeTebac ki dagvexmareba...
principSi, megobaro, es aris is mTavari informacia,
rac TavSekavebaze da pornoze SemeZlo momeyola, da­
narCeni ki yvelaferi individualuria. modi axla Tvi­
Ton seqsualur energias sxva ganxriT SevexoT.

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Vako
 seqsi

jeikobi taxtze ufro gemrielad mokalaTda da

­Rrmad Cafiqrebulma buxars dauwyo yureba.
_ jeikob, axla raze unda visaubroT?
_ seqsze, megobaro, seqsze.
_ da aseTi Cafiqrebuli ratom xar?
_ ubralod imaze vfiqrob, rogor daviwyo am Temaze
saubari, ai magaliTad: icodi Tu ara rom Zalian bevri
adamianisTvis, TviTon seqsze saubari ukve tabua? maT­
Tvis TviTon seqsze fiqric ki uaryofiT energiasTan
asocirdeba.
_ eg xalxi jeikob Tavs siraqlemasaviT qviSaSi yofs
(avtorma icis, rom siraqlema realurad qviSaSi Tavs ar
yofs, da saSiSroebis SemTxvevaSi, iseve, rogorc ume­
tesoba cocxali arseba garbis, an ibrZvis), Tumca Ta­
vis damalviT araferi ar Seicvleba. rogorc ar unda
ecadon maT seqsisgan Caketvas, realurad seqss yvela
adamianis cxovrebaSi Zalian didi adgili u ­ Wiravs da es
kidev Zalian didxans, ase iqneba.
_ ki geTanxmebi, egrea da davamateb kidevac imas, rom
seqsualurad gaunaTlebel xalxs warmodgenac ki ar
aqvs Tu ra SesaZleblobebs kargaven am ucodinrobis
gamo.
gaiTvaliswine, megobaro, rom yvelaferi, rasac axla
vityvi exeba Cvens (adamianebis) pirovnuli zrdis Tema­
tikas da ar warmoadgens mxolod Cems pirad azrs am
TemasTan dakavSirebiT.
_ es bolo dazusteba raRa saWiro iyo?
_ ra vici, mainc Tavi davizRvie, kargi modi daviwyoT.
_ kargi daviwyoT.
_ ara aqvs mniSvneloba adamianis sqess, mis orien­
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Vako
 tacias Tu sulier mdgomareobas. seqsualuri ener­
giis gamoyeneba SeuZlia yvela Cven gans, daJe metic,
amas isedac yvela adamiani akeTebs gaazrebulad Tu
gauazreblad. simarTle giTxra, seqsualuri energiis
sworad gamoyenebaSi araferi Zneli ar aris, CvenTvis
mTavari mxolod imis codnaa Tu, rogor unda vakon­
troloT is (seqsualuri energia) seqsis daxmarebiT.
ai magaliTad, Cven vkargavT seqsualur energias im
SemTxvevaSi, Tu Cvens seqsualur partniorebs Zalian
xSirad vicvliT, ai yvelaze adamianuri da gasagebi eniT
rom giTxra, Zlieri seqsualuri energiisTvis saWiroa
rac SeiZleba nakleb adamianTan gvqondes seqsualuri
kavSiri mTeli Cveni cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi.
rogorc ukve vTqvi, seqsualuri energia sakmaod be­
vri dadebiTi Tvisebis momtani SeiZleba iyos da Cveni
valia rac SeiZleba sworad da kargad gamoviyenoT is.
megobaro, isev da isev axalgazrdobaSi, 22-23 wlis
asakSi megona, rac meti mandilosani dawveboda CemTan
miT ufro `Zlieri~ da `magari~ viqnebodi.
amis imdenad mjeroda, rom sakuTar TavTan patara
Celenjebsac ki vawyobdi, aba romeli xerxiT Sevipyrob­
di ama Tu im gogos?
aba ramdenjer meqneboda seqsi erTi Ramis ganmavlo­
baSi?
an ramdenad Cqara SevZlebdi, romelime mandilosa­
nis Cems sawolSi Cawvenas?
jeikobs Caecina.
Sen warmoidgine, sawolSi kurdReliviT viyavi da
amiT vamayobdi, yovelTvis axal-axali rekordis damya­
rebas vcdilobdi. daijereb Tu ara erT RameSi 12 jer­
ze var asuli da aseTi SesaZleblobebis gamo, Tavi Zve­
li legendebis gmirad mimaCnda.

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Vako
 da rogor ggonia, erT RameSi, rom 12 jer geqneboda
seqsi, amas aranairi Sedegi ar mohyveboda?
zustadac rom mohyveboda, mTeli Semdegi kviris
ganmavlobaSi uZlur, zarmac da sruliad umaqnis pi­
rovnebad viqceodi, Tumca Cemi suleli tvini ver xv­
deboda imas, Tu risgan iyo es yvelaferi gamowveuli.
_ jekob, 12-jer erT RameSi?
cota moridebulma vkiTxe da paralelurad fiqreb­
Si Semomepara kidev erTi kiTxva `vin aris es cxoveli?~
_ ahahahh ki, ki, 12-jer.
Caecina jeikobs.
maSin, megobaro, araferi mainteresebda amis garda,
aseTi kredo mqonda, rac ufro meti gogo meyoleboda,
rac ufro metjer meqneboda seqsi, miT ukeTesi CemTvis.
zogjer ki iqamdec mivdiodi, rom or gogosTan erTad
viweqi, Tumca namdvilad ai namdvilad ver vxvdebodi
am TiTqos da utkivari saqcieliT ramdens vkargavdi.
mokled, megobaro, axla axali wesebi maqvs gamomuSa­
vebuli, yovelSemTxvevaSi sakuTari seqsualuri ener­
giis gasafrTxileblad, vcdilob seqsualuri partnio­
rebi dakvirvebiT avirCio. magaliTad, ar vwvebi imasTan
viszec vici, rom Cemi cxovrebidan maleve wava. fulsac
arasdros ar vixdi seqsSi. mokled, vwvebi mxolod imas­
Tan visTanac miviReb namdvil sulier siamovnebas da
ara mxolod fizikurs.
_ gasagebia jeikob, memgoni am Temaze saubars ukve
unda movrCeT, axla Tu winaaRmdegi ar iqnebi me avirCev
axal Temas kargi?
_ ki, airCie.
_ fuli, Tu SeiZleba fulze melaprake, Seni mosa­
zreba mainteresebs.
_ hmm, eg Zalian saintereso Temaa megobaro, kargi,
modi daviwyoT.

72

Vako
 fuli

_ modi fulis mniSvnelobaze bevrs nu malaparakeb,

isedac mTeli msoflio fulis irgvliv trialebs da
yvelam viciT, rom umravlesoba adamianis mTavar cxo­
vrebiseul problemas, fulis ukmarisoba warmoadgens.
ai odesme Tu gifiqria, Tu ratom iwvevs amden pro­
blemas TviTon fuli?
_ raTqmaunda jeikob, am sakiTxSi arc me CamogrCe­
bi, iqiTac gaswavli raRaceebs Tu ginda. ici ramdeni
ufulobisgan gaubedurebuli da gaSmagebuli adamiani
Semxvedria?
me jeikob Semxvedria iseTi xalxi, romlebic mTeli
maTi cxovreba puris fulisTvis ibrZoda, Semxvedria
gayatakebuli, bankroti Tav mokluli milionrebi, si­
RaribeSi dabadebul-gazrdili axalgazrdebi, romle­
bTan dialogmac sakmaod bevri ram maswavla fulTan
dakavSirebiT.
Tumca, jeikob, am xalxTan gasaubrebis Semdeg me
Sevxvdi erT Zalian mniSnelovan paradoqss, am xalxis
umravlesobas aerTianebs erTi ram da es aris finansu­
ri gaunaTlebloba, anu fulis arasworad gamoyeneba.
_ ki, ki, egrea, megobaro, Cven skolaSi, universi­
tetSi, saxlSi, quCaSi da saerTod yvelgan, gvaswavlian
yvelafers, garda fulis sworad gamoyenebisa da ai
zustad es aris TiTqmis yvela finansuri problemis
mizezi.
saerTod xalxis umravlesobas hgonia, rom, Tu ki
maTi Semosavali gaizrdeba, mTeli maTi finansuri pro­
blemebi gaqreba.
_ damatebiTi SemosavliT araferi ar Seicvleba jei­
kob.
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Vako
 uceb CaverTe dialogSi da TviTonve ganvagrZe mis
Temaze saubari.
jeikob, saerTod xalxis moTxovnebi mudam izrdeba,
Tu ki adamiani ara adekvaturad iyenebs fuls axla,
rogorc ar unda gaizardos misi Semosavali, is isev
araadekvaturad gamoiyenebs mas momavalSic, ramac Sei­
Zleba adamiani tragikul Sedegamdec miiyvanos.
ici, ramdeni minaxavs, visac uecrma gamdidrebam, ue­
crma didma Semosavalma, magaliTad, lotoSi gamarjve­
bam, cxovreba gaumjobesebis magier gaunadgura? ram­
denic ginda, imdenia aseTi, jeikob.
_ ki, ki, savsea, an imaTze ras ityvi vinc mudam vale­
bSi da kreditebSi cxovrobs?
_ eg xalxi xom saerTod, mTel Tavis cxovrebas erTi
valis gadaxdidan meores gadaxdaSi xarjavs...
_ megobaro, mokled aris ramodenime rkinis, an Tu
ginda ase davarqvaT `oqros wesi~ finansuri proble­
mebis mosagvareblad. yvela maTgani ki imdenad ele­
mentarulia, rom maTi efeqturobis dajereba bevrs
gauWirdeba, Tumca damijere, am elementarul wesebs
iyenebs yvela, absoliturad yvela, finansurad Zlieri
adamiani.
1) mudmivad iqonie fuli jibeSi,
2) pirvel rigSi gadauxade sakuTar Tavs,
3) Seinaxe 10%,
4) gaeci 10%,
5) gaamzade finansuri gegma.
5 elementaruli wesi imisaTvis, rom yvela adamian­
ma SeZlos yvelaze dabali finansuri wertilidan amo­
svla.

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Vako
 TiToeuli maTgani cal-calke Zalian advili Sesas­
rulebelia da maTi erToba ki ukve Zalian did Sedege­
bs iZleva. axla ki modi yvela am wesze visaubroT.
1) mudmivad iqonie fuli jibeSi.
_ isev da isev Cems axalgazrdobaSi, mudmivad ufu­
lobis problemas vetakebodi, rac ar unda didi raode­
nobis Tanxa Camvardnoda xelSi ,me yovelTvis uWkuod
vxarjavdi mas, mudmivad raRac axalis SeZena mindoda
da damijere, sul gamoCndeboda xolme iseTi ram, ra­
zec unda damexarja fuli, ai magaliTad: jer kidev
gemze muSaobisas, Cemi xelfasi 900$ iyo, amasTan erTad
gansakuTrebuli bonusebic mewereboda da sabolood
1200-mde gamodioda, plus amas aranairi xarjebi ar ga­
maCnda. me fuli arc sakvebze mexarjeboda arc col-S­
vilis rCenaze, isini ubralod ar myavda da zustad ami­
tom, es Tanxa maSindeli Cemi TavisTvis sakmaod didad
iTvleboda da rogor ggonia, rogor viyenebdi mas?
rogor da taqsis mZRols 2$-is magier 10$-s vuxdi­
di, yovel xelfasze 4-5 cal majis saaTs vyidulobdi
da xalxs vCuqnidi, restornebSi imaze met Cais vtoveb­
di vidre realurad gadasaxdeli Tanxa iyo, vyidulob­
di iseT tansacmels, romelsac arasdros ar Cavicme­
vdi. mokled, fuls vflangavdi. ratomRac megobaro,
xelfasis aRebisas tvini meTiSeboda da yvelanairad
vcdilobdi Cems xelSi Cavardnili fuli isev da isev
damekarga, raTa isev ufulod davrCeniliyavi...
ase grZeldeboda Cemi cxovreba iqamde, sanam 22 wlis
asakSi pirveli biznesis dakargvis Semdeg, gaWirvebis
da umuSevrobis periodSi dedaCemma 30$ ar gadmomiri­
cxa, fulis CaricxvisTanave bankSi gavemgzavre, Tanxa
aviRe da saWiro nivTebis Sesyidvebs Sevudeqi _ viyide

75

Vako
 dRiuri, kalami, saTvale (gegoneba saWiro yofiliyos),
produqti, kidev ramodenime yoveldRiuri nivTebi da
Cemda gasakvirad, am yvelafris Sesyidvis Semdeg, jibeSi
kidev 10$ mqonda SerCenili. mokled, am TanxiT jibeSi
saxlisken gavemgzavre da gzaSi, iqiT-aqeT gavyurebdi
maRaziebis vitrinebs imaze fiqriT Tu kidev risi yid­
va SemeZlo, Tu raSi SevZlebdi am fulis daxarjvas da
sruliad uecrad gamiCnda erTi elementaruli kiTxva
`neta ratom unda davxarjo es fuli axla?~
Semdeg am kiTxvas mohyva imis gaazreba, rom me ji­
beSi fuli arasdros ar miCerdeba. me gaviazre is, rom
axlandel Tundac gaWirvebis-umuSevrobis periodSi
mamaCemi marCens saWmliTa da mexmareba yvela im ada­
mianur problemebis mogvarebaSi, rac savaldebuloa
Cveni organizmisTvis, deda ki am dros yovelTviurad
miricxavs raRac minimalur Tanxas, raTa Cemi elemen­
taruli moTxovnilebebi daakmayofilos da miuxedavad
aseTi daxmarebisa, miuxedavad am situaciisa me gavia­
zre is, rom yovel Tanxis daricxvaze, daJe maSin roca
sakuTar bizness vmarTavdi, yovelTvis memarTeboda
erTi da igive ram,yovelTvis gauazreblad vcdilobdi
es Tanxa, rac jibeSi mqonda damexarja da, rac SeiZleba
male momeSorebina.
mokled, am gaazrebis periodSi viyavi zustad TviT­
gaumjobesebiT dakavebuli da uecrad gamaxsenda erTi
wignidan amokiTxuli winadadeba -`yovelTvis iqonieT
jibeSi 500$~ nu wignidan am amonaridis Sesasruleblad
kidev 490$ maklda, Tumca me mainc gadavwyvite is Cemi
10$ Semenaxa da araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar damexarja.
simarTle giTxra am 10$-is Senaxvac namdvili tanjva
aRmoCnda, maSin absoliturad yvelafris yidva mindo­
da, maxsendeboda, rom Turme saxlSi zeTi mimTavrde­

76
Vako
 boda, Turme sarecxi saSualebac mTavrdeba, mobilurSi
angariSi unda Sevavso, uih ra lamazi saTvale iyideba
Tan zustad 10$ Rirs... mokled fulis dasaxarjad Za­
lian bevr mizezs vigonebdi, Tumca me SevZeli yvela
am cdunebis damarcxeba da saxlSi, ukve fuliT jibeSi
davbrundi.
simarTle giTxra aseTi patara TanxiT dawyeba Cem­
Tvis Zalian bevrs niSnavda, radgan realurad im pe­
riodSi TiTqmis sul ufulod viyavi xolme. mokled,
ramdenime xanSi jibeSi mudmivad fulis tarebis wesis
daxmarebiT, pirveli 500$-is agroveba SevZeli, nu ra
Tqma unda am Tanxis agrovebamde bevrjer mqonia iseTi
momenti, roca 250$-zec avsulvar da mTlianad dami­
xarjavs, Tumca Semdeg isev ufulobaSi Cavardnisas, me
Sinagan diskomforts vgrZnobdi, rac maiZulebda fu­
lis maleve Sovnas, sakuTari Tavis ukeT gakontrole­
bas da finansuri siZlierisken mimaval gzaze dadgomas.
modi, SevajamoT, megobaro...
Tu adamians mudmivi ufulobis problema aqvs,Tu is
xSirad ki ara, misi cxovrebis umetes nawils carieli
jibeebiT atarebs, man aucileblad unda SeeCvios fu­
lis jibeSi tarebas. amis gakeTeba pirveli 5$-Tac Sei­
Zleba, zustad im 5$-iT, romelsac is araviTar SemTx­
vevaSi ar daxarjavs da mudam jibeSi atarebs. merwmune,
megobaro, Senaxuli Tanxis dasaxarji mizezebi gamoCn­
deba da am mizezebis umravlesoba sakmaod obieqturic
iqneba, Tumca adamiani unda gadaaxtes yvelafers da
mainc Seinaxos es Tanxa jibeSi.
2) pirvel rigSi gadauxade sakuTar Tavs.
_ es CemTvis erT-erTi usayvarlesi Temaa, arada ro­
gori banaluria, rogori advilia, magram samwuxarod

77
Vako
 mis arsebobaze da efeqturobaze naklebad vinmem, rom
icodes da simarTle giTxra vinc icis isic iSviaTad
iyenebs am wess.
jeikobis enTuziazms misi saubris periodSi kilome­
tris daSorebidanac dainaxavdi. iSviaTad adamiani ra­
meze aseTi ganaTebuli TvalebiT, rom saubrobdes.
_ ici, rogori suleli viyavi, iqamde sanam am wesis
gamoyenebas ar daviwyebdi?
ramdenjerac fuli Camivardeboda xelSi, imdenjer
axal rames vyidulobdi, me yovelTvis, ai yovelTvis
Cems irgvliv yvelas vuxdidi fuls, magram amas saku­
Tar Tavs arasodes vukeTebdi.
jeikobma patara pauza aiRo da isev ganagrZo.
xvdebi risi Tqma minda, megobaro?
xalxis umravlesoba xelfasis aRebisas, egreve mi­
dis am xelfasis dasaxarjad, isini produqtebis yid­
vas iwyeben da amiT fuls maRaziis kasirs uxdian, pa­
ralelurad komunalurebs ixdian da amiT saxelmwifos
aZliereben, tansacmels yiduloben da amiT isev da
isev tansacmlis maRazias uxdian fuls, ra vici xan ben­
zins asxamen manqanaSi da benzingasamarT sadgurs ux­
dian fuls, xan teqnikas yiduloben da amiT teqnikis
maRazias uxdian Tanxas, mokled, es xalxi yvelas maT
irgvliv fuls uxdis da erTaderTi vinc rCeba fulis
gadaxdis gareSe, esaa maTive yvelaze axlo da yvelaze
sayvareli adamiani, anu sakuTari Tavi.
_ da rogor unda gadauxadon sakuTar Tavs?
_ zustad ise, rogorc sxvas uxdian, dagericxeba
fuli? gadauxade raRac Tanxa sakuTar Tavs, Seinaxe am
Tanxis sul raRac 10%
da mieci sakuTar Tavs.
advilia ara?

78

Vako
 _ ra giTra ase mokled da konkretulad jer arafe­
ri giTqvams, jeikob.
_ me da Sen kidev erT saintereso wessac mivuaxlov­
diT megobaro.
3) Seinaxe 10%.
_ rogorc ukve gixsene, megobaro, yvela es wesi erT­
maneTTan dakavSirebulia da erTmaneTisgan gamomdina­
reobs, ai, magaliTad, es wesi gamoadgeba pirvel ors,
anu miiReb Tu ara raRac Tanxas, 10% gadauxade saku­
Tar Tavs da zustad es 10% gamoiyene im Tanxad, rome­
lic mudam geqneba jibeSi.
jeikobi cota xans dafiqrda, azrebi daalaga da aC­
qarebulad ganagrZno saubari
saerTod megobaro, mudmivad 10%-is Senaxva Zalian
advili ramea, magaliTad, adamians TveSi 100$ rom
hqondes Semosavali da is am Tanxidan sul raRac 10$-s
inaxavdes, merwmune, misi cxovrebis xarisxisTvis es sa­
qcieli sruliad SeumCneveli iqneba (anu am saqcieliT
is arafers ar dakargavs, mxolod moigebs)
aq mTavari ara gadadebuli (Senaxuli) Tanxis raode­
nobaa, aramed Cveva, ai zustad Semosavlis 10%-is Sena­
xvis Cveva.
_ geTanxmebi jeikob, Tavidan Znelia daijero is, rom
aseTi mizeruli Tanxis gadadeba, aseTi patara moqmede­
bis Cadena, raime Sedegebs moitans, Tumca damijere me
da daujere Cems gamocdilebas, es 10%-is Senaxvis wesi
ukve saukuneebia, rac arsebobs da mTeli misi istoriis
ganmavlobaSi, mas aravisTvis ziani ar miuyenebia.
_ ziani? ziani ki ara mas saocari Sedegebi moaqvs,
jer erTi aseTi elementaruli moqmedebis avtomatiz­
mamde miyvana Zalian advilia, rac momavalSi ukve did
Sedegebs dagvidebs.

79
Vako
 _ kargi jeikob, da im xalxma ra unda qnas visac sta­
biluri Semosavali ar aqvs?
_ is, rasac akeTebs iseTi adamiani, romelsac sta­
biluri Semosavali aqvs, yovel jerze, rodesac am ada­
mians Semouva Tanxa, man unda gadauxados sakuTar Tavs
10%.
modi magaliTad warmovidginoT iseTi profesia, ro­
goricaa mimtani:
xSir SemTxvevaSi, megobaro, mimtanebs arastabiluri
xelfasi aqvT da amas kidev yoveldRiuri Cai emateba,
romelic raTqmaunda yovelTvis gansxvavebuli raode­
nobisaa, aseT dros mimtanma ubralod yovelTvis unda
Seinaxos yoveldRiuri Semosavlis 10%. morCa.
eg aris da eg, axla ki modi 10%-is gacemaze visau­
broT.
4) gaeci 10%
_ Tavidanve unda SevTanxmdeT erT rameze, fulis
gacema unda uyvardes yvela im adamians visac unda, rom
fuli hqondes, es aris rkinis kanoni. ar gascem? _ ar
miiReb.
xom cnobilia, rom sakmaod bevri milioneri, Tu mi­
liarderi, mokled, mdidari adamiani eweva qvelmoqme­
debas da am faqts Tavisi obieqturi mizezebi aqvs.
xalxis umravlesoba, megobaro, ambobs eseT rames:
`me xom mdidari ara var, rogor gavce is rac ar maqvs?
ai, mdidari rom gavxvdebi, fuls rom viSovi, mere da­
vexmarebi gaWirvebulebsac~. da bla bla bla...
damijere aseTi azrovnebis adamiani ar daexmareba
gaWirvebuls daJe miliardebi, rom iSovos, principSi
aseTi adamiani verc iSovis am miliardebs.
saerTod adamianma, milionebi, rom iSovos, amisT­
vis man unda gasces Zalian bevri ram, konkretulad ki

80
Vako
 fuli, man unda gasces fuli biznesSi, saqmeSi investi­
ciebSi, reklamebSi da kidev mraval sxva rameSi. aqe­
dan gamomdinare savaldebuloa is, rom Cven viswavloT
Tanxis gacema da amis gakeTeba SeiZleba sxva, Cvenze me­
tad gaWirvebul adamianze, an cxovelze, an frinvelze,
mokled, cocxal arsebaze daxmarebis gaweviT.
megobaro, im adamians, romelic iZaxis, rom mas uWirs
da axla ver daexmareba veravis, mudam unda axsovdes
erTi mniSvnelovani ram:
`samyaroSi axla da am wams, cxovrobs sxva iseTi ada­
miani, romelsac Cemze metad uWirs da am adamianisTvis
Cemi Semosavlis 10% aris Zalian mniSvnelovani cifri,
romelmac SesaZloa sikvdilsac gadaarCinos~
_ kargi jeikob, modi axla SevajamoT, Seni saubridan
gamomdinare mivxvdi erT rames, anu xalxma unda mieC­
vios Tavisi Semosavlis 80%-ze cxovreba?
_ ki megobaro da amis umtkivneulod SesrulebaSi
dagvexmareba elementaruli, araprofesionaluri fi­
nansuri gegma...
5) gaamzade finansuri gegma.
_ aseTi gegma, megobaro, unda daweros absoliturad
yvelam, miuxedavad imisa, uWirs adamians Tu ara. finan­
suri gegma sasicocxlod saWiroa.
merwmune am gegmis daweram Cemi cxovreba saerTod
axal etapze gadaiyvana, misi daxmarebiT, moviSore va­
lebi, uari vTqvi impulsur (daugegmav) Sesyidvebze,
winaswar vicodi Cemi axlo momavali da kidev sxva mra­
vali ram.
axla ar daviwyeb, raime cxovrebiseuli istoriis
moyolas, mirCevnia pirdapir finansur gegmis Sedgena­
ze gelaparako. gulwrfelad giTxra amaze advili aram­

81
Vako
 gonia rame iyos, elementaruli (primitiuli) 1 Tviani
gegmis dawera, maqsimum 10 wuTs Tu wagvarTmevs.
mokled, finansuri gegma:
pirvel rigSi, vwerT finansur miznebs; danazogs; va­
lebs; viTvliT savaraudo Semosavals da xarjebs (es
yvelaferi erT TveSi)
am yvelafris Camoweris Semdeg Tu davinaxavT, rom
Cveni xarji aRemateva Semosavals, ubralod uars vam­
bobT romelime mizanze.
axla avxsni yvelafers cal-calke...
miznebi: pirvel rigSi visaxavT finansur miznebs
`SevinaxoT Semosavlis 10% da gavceT aseve 10%~
es megobaro savaldebuloa, rac ar unda mtkivneuli
iyos yvelam visac warmatebis miRweva unda, unda iswa­
vlos Senaxva-gacema.
Semdeg vwerT yvela im mizans rac unda Sesruldes
am TveSi: komunaluri gadasaxadebi, binis qira, Wama
(produqtebis savaraudo fasi erT Tveze), tansacmlis
yidva, kafeSi wasvla da a,S. anu aq unda CamovweroT ab­
soliturad yvela is mizani, ris Sesrulebasac Semdeg
Tves vapirebT. Cven ar unda dagvaviwydes araferi.
danazogi: vwerT yvela im Tanxas, rac gadanaxuli
gvaqvs, iqneba es jibis fuli Tu bankis depoziti.
valebi: vwerT yvela vals, kreditebs, lizings, maRa­
ziiaSi nisiad aRebul puris fuls da a.S.
Semosavali: vwerT im savaraudo Tanxas, rac unda Se­
mogvivides, Tu stabiluri Semosavali ar gaqvs, ubra­
lod gadaxede wina Tveebs da maTi saSualo iqneba Seni
am Tvis Semosavalic. (yovelSemTxvevaSi arc Tu ise
didi gansxvaveba iqneba faqtsa da saSualos Soris)
xarji: daiTvale TveSi savaraudo yvela xarjebi (mi­
znebiT dawyebuli, valebiT damTavrebuli).

82

Vako
 im SemTxvevaSi, Tu xarjebi aRemateba Tvis savarau­
do Semosavals, ramodenime mizanze an uari unda vTqva­
T,an gadavdoT isini momaval TvisTvis.
jeikobma kidev erTi furceli gadmomawoda da mTxo­
va Semexeda, misi TqmiT am furcelze misi pirveli fi­
nansuri gegma ewera, kakraz samagaliTod imaTTvis, vi­
sac unda finansuri gegmis Sedgena.

finansuri gegma

seqtemberi

miznebi:
1) gadavuxado 10% sakuTar Tavs,
2) gavce 10%,
3) gadavixado komunalurebi,
4) viyido fexsacmeli,
5) viyido Sampuni,
6) CavrTo telefonSi interneti,
7) wavide restoranSi megobrebTan erTad,
8) SeviZino produqtebi,
9) mgzavrobis Tanxa gadavinaxo,
10) wavide kinoSi,
11) oTaxis qira gadavixado.

_ rogorc xedav aq mewera yvelaferi, risi gakeTebac

seqtemberSi mindoda.
danazogi:12$ jibeSi maqvs.
valebi: 0$
Semosavali: 450$-xelfasi.
xarji: miznebi

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Vako
 1) 45$ (1),
2) 45$ (1),
3) 110$ (1),
4) 25$ (3),
5) 5$ (2),
6) 20$ (2),
7) 30$ (3),
8) 110$... (1),
_ rogorc xedav yvela xarji daniSnuli maqvs 1-dan
3-mde cifrebiT.
1-niSnavs yvelaze mniSvnelovan xarjs.
2-saSualos.
3-naklebad mniSvnelovans.
am Sefasebebis Sesrulebis SemTxvevaSi Cven maqsima­
lurad gulwrfelebi unda viyoT, radgan amis daxmare­
biT gavigebT Tu ra gvinda marTla rom SevasruloT am
miznebidan da ra ara.
9) 20$ (1),
10) 10$ (3),
11) 100$ (1),
_ da bolos vajamebT.
Semosavali: 450$
xarji: 520$.
_ rogorc xedav, Cemi moTxovnebi aRemateba Cems Se­
saZleblobebs, amis gamosasworeblad Cven gvaqvs 5 ins­
trumenti.
1) uari vTqvaT mizanze,
2) SeviZinoT-SevasruloT mizani ufro iafad,
3) SeviZinoT-SevasruloT mizani mogvianebiT (Semdeg
Tves),
4) gavzardoT Semosavali,

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Vako
 5) movakloT sxva xarjebs (komunalurebs, produ­
qtebs da a.S) Tumca aq frTxilad unda iyo, Cven mi­
viswrafviT ukeTesi cxovrebisken da zustad amitom es
instrumenti naklebad gamosadeqi iqneba CvenTvis, ra­
dgan produqtze Tanxis dakleba sabolood Cvens cxo­
vrebis xarisxs gaafuWebs (anu qaTmis magier kvercxs,
rom SeWam iseTi danazogi araa saWiro).
mokled, megobaro, eg aris.
nu ra Tqma unda es gegma ar aris milionebis Sovni­
saTvis, Tumca finansuri ganaTlebis pirveli nabijis­
Tvis sakmaod advil, umtkivneulo da efeqtur moqme­
debad SeiZleba CaiTvalos.
_ yvelaze didi qalaqebis mSenebloba, pirveli agu­
ris dadgmiT iwyeboda jeikob, iqamde sanam adamians
misi isedac mizeruli Semosavali xelsa da Tvals Sua
gaurbis, iqamde sanam igive adamiani impulsur SenaZene­
bs axorcielebs da sakuTar Tavs kreditebisa da vale­
bis monad iqcevs, milionebsac igivenairad gaflangavs.
jeikobi Cemi sityvebis mere uceb wamoxta, miTxra,
rom raRac mniSvnelovani gaaxsenda, da mTxova, misTvis
momesmina. mec ra Tqma unda davTanxmdi.

mdidari da Raribis azrovneba

_ megobaro Zalian mniSvnelovani Tema gamaxsenda, es

Zalian cotam Tu icis. amas skolebSic ar gvaswavlian
da simarTle giTxra, mSoblebic ar gveubnebian masze
arafers. Tumca, miuxedavad am yvelafrisa, es faqti,
razec axla minda gesaubro, yovelTvis arsebobda ka­

85

Vako
 cobriobis istoriaSi da momavalSic iarsebebs. me mego­
baro, am faqts, mdidari da Raribis azrovnebas veZaxi.
_ ah, ukve vxvdebi risi Tqmac ginda, Tumca mainc
mogismen.
_ modi magaliTad, 2 adamians mogiyvan, erTi iyos Ra­
rib ojaxSi dabadebul-gazrdili, meore ki mdidrarSi.
is bavSvi, megobaro, romelic mTeli Tavisi yofa
ukidures siRaribeSi cxovrobda, romelic mTeli cxo­
vreba mxolod siRaribes xedavda, magaliTad patara
gauremontebel, dangrevis zRvarze myof saxls, sadac
mis Tvalwin cxovrebiT gawvalebuli da gadaRlili
mSoblebi, saWmel-sasmlis gayofa da dazogvas cdi­
lobdnen. mokled, is bavSvi romelic ase cxovrobda,
savaraudod da samwuxarod, Raribulad moazrovne ada­
mianad gaizrdeba.
aseT adamians ubralod warmodgenac ar SeuZlia
imis, rom gamdidreba SesaZlebelia.
ubralod warmoidgine: izrdeba bavSvi ojaxSi, 4
ZmasTan erTad, patara qoxSi, mama umuSevari, deda ki
mTeli ojaxis sarCenad dilidan Ramemde damlageblad
muSaobs, bavSvebi ki am dros erTmaneTis tansacmlebs
icmeven da ras xedaven?
mama yvelaze iaffasian cocxiT narev TuTuns eweva,
dilidan dilamde axal ambebs uyurebs Zvel naxevrad
ferad televizorSi, romelic arasodes ar kiTxulobs
wignebs da saRamoobiT birJas amagrebs, zustad misnair
xalxTan erTad.
deda ki am dros samsaxuridan mosuli, daRlil-da­
qanculi saxls alagebs, bavSvebs uvlis da paralelu­
rad mis sayvarel serials uyurebs.
es bavSvi xedavs imas, rom misi mezoblebic zustad
ase wvaloben, xedavs rom maTTanac zustad igive si­

86
Vako
 tuaciaa da aqedan gamomdinare, nel-nela uars ambobs
Tavis ocnebebze, is aRarc kosmosSi gafrenaze f ­ iqrobs
da aRarc saukeTeso ganaTlebis miRebaze. man icis, rom
mdidruli manqanebi, saxlebi, mokled mdidruli cxo­
vreba ki arsebobs, magram ara mis realobaSi, aramed
sxvis samyarosa da cxovrebaSi. samwuxaroa, magram am
yvelafris Semdeg bavSvi egueba im azrs, rom siRaribis
Secvla SeuZlebelia da masze (anu bavSvis pirovnebaze)
araferia am cxovrebaSi damokidebuli.
mokled, gadis dro, is izrdeba da sul ufro da
ufro emsgavseba Tavis mSoblebs, romlebic raTqmaun­
da gauazreblad aswavlian bavSvs siRaribes. mere bavS­
vi gebulobs imas, rom Turme yvela mdidari adamiani
bodiSi da proWia, mxolod imis gamo, rom erT-erTma
maTganma mamamiss fuli ar misca zustad maSin, roca
mas es yvelaze metad sWirdeboda.
axla ki warmoidgine bavSvi, romelic mdidar ojaxSi
izrdeba, mas arc saWmel-sasmeli aklia, arc ded-mamis
siyvaruli da arc piradad misTvis daqiravebuli repe­
titorebi. moundeba pianinoze dakvra? daukravs!
moundeba yvelaze Tanamedrove saTamaSos SeZena?
SeiZens, an daimsaxurebs Tavisi kargi swavliT!
es bavSvi, megobaro xedavs mamamiss, adamians, romel­
sac lamazi, mdidruli Sarval-kostumi acvia, is xeda­
vs mSvenivrad movlil dedamiss, romelsac cxovreba­
Si araferi ar aklia: mokled, bavSvi izrdeba namdvil
samoTxeSi, (aq igulisxmeba materialuri mdgomareoba.
is, rom mdidrul ojaxSi myof bavSvebsac aqvs Tavisi
problemebi, Tan Zalian seriozuli, am konkretul Te­
mas ar exeba)
eseTi bavSvi ra Tqma unda mdidrulad moazrovne pi­
rovnebad gaizrdeba.

87
Vako
 jeikobma patara pauza aiRo, Rrmad CaisunTqa da
saubari ganagrZo.
megobaro, ki samwuxaroa, magram, rasac me vambob, fa­
qtia, yovelTvis ase iyo da momavalSic ase iqneba, Tum­
ca miuxedavad mdidar-Raribis azrovnebisa, me ar vgu­
lisxmob imas, rom yvela siRaribeSi gazrdili adamiani
aucileblad Raribad mokvdeba. merwmune aq yvelaferi
bavSvis arCevanzea damokidebuli. Tu Raribi bavSvi Se­
egueba Tavis beds, Tavis mdgomareobas, is raTqmaunda
Raribad darCeba. xolo Tu misi guli kidev ibrZvis, Tu
misi suli isev da isev iTxovs ukeTesobas, merwmune is
yovelTvis ipovis gzas ukeTesi cxovrebisken. saerTod
Zalian bevri magaliTia ukiduresi siRaribidan amosu­
li xalxisa, romlebic gamdidrdnen da SeZles sakuTa­
ri materialuri cxovrebis mowyoba. ki, ra Tmqa unda
maT meti Zalisxmeva sWirdebodaT imisaTvis, rom aqam­
de mosuliyvnen, maT ufro naklebi fora hqondaT cxo­
vrebaSi, vidre simdidreSi dabadebul bavSvebs, magram
maT mainc SeZles imis miRweva, risTvisac ibrZodnen.
jeikobma isev patara pauza aiRo da miTxra, rom am
Temaze saubars morCa.

meditacia

_ jeikob, gaxsovs, rom meditaciazec unda gvelapa­

raka? ratomRac gagveqca es Tema.
_ ho, eg ram damaviwya.
jeikobi fexze wamodga da mTxova ukan gavyolodi,
mec avdeqi da masTan erTad grZel karidorSi gzas Se­
vudeqi. gzad, rom ar mogvewyina jeikobi isev kedlebze

88

Vako
 damagrebuli naxatebis istoriebs miyveboda, lamisaa
TiTo naxatis Semsrulebeli pirispir gamecno, ise kar­
gad miyveboda jeikobi maT istoriebs. hah principSi ra
ici, egeb marTlac vicnobdi maT ...
male saxlis ukana ezoSi gavediT. jer kidev fanjre­
bidan Canda, rom Zalian didi ezo iyo. gareT gasulma
egreve SevamCnie, rom Cemgan marjvena mxares sportuli
manqanebi rig-rigobiT, lamazad iyo dayenebuli, zus­
tad ver gavixseneb, Tu ramdeni da ra markis manqanebi
eyena, magram erT-erTi maTgani gulSi ki Camivarda, es
iyo Savi feris rolls royce cullinan – Rolls Royce Cullinan,
romelic cxviriT Cemken iyo momarTli
_ lamazia, ara?
_ Zalian, jeikob.
_ am manqanaze bavSvobidan vocnebobdi da milioneri
gavxvdi Tu ara am lamazmanis SeZeniT avRniSne.
kargi, gamomyevi megobaro, ezoSi patara tye maqvs,
SigniT ki CanCqeria, merwmune, meditaciisTvis ukeTes
adgils ver ipovi.
_ rao ezoSi tye da CanCqeri maqvso?
cota ar iyos gamikvirda amis gageba, dRemde miWirs
mdidari xalxis gansakuTrebul moTxovnebze Segueba,
zogierTs sakuTari zvigeni yavs saxlSi, zogs saerTod
pingvinebis gareSe daZineba ar SeuZlia, jeikobs ki Can­
Cqeri aqvs Tavisive ezoSi.
mokled jeikobis ezoSi siarulisas, ramodenime
TviTmfrinavsac movkari Tvali, patara spiloc ki da­
vinaxe da Tu ar momeCvena Cvengan erTi an ori kilome­
tris daSorebiT uzarmazari labirinTic ki iyo.
_ jeikob, aris rame rac am ezoSi ar gaqvs?
_ nu ityvi, memgoni marTla yvelaferia aq, Cem sa­
saxleSi momuSave personali 1000 kacs aRemateba, maT­

89
Vako
 Tvis aqve axlos saxlebi maqvs aSenebuli,zogierTi ma­
Tgani ojaxiTaa gadmosuli da ise muSaoben.
jeikobma TiTiT mimiTiTa erTi adgilisken da Tqva
ai, iqiT megobaro lomebi myavs, Tan iseTi lomebi,
romlebzec brakonierebi nadirobdnen da Cven gada­
varCineT, aseve daTvic gvyavs zustad igive situacii­
dan gamoyvanili, romelsac 5 tyvia hqonda monaxvedri.
yvela meubneboda SeeSvi ver gadaarCeno, magram gulis
siRrmeSi mjeroda misi gadarCenis. mokled, xalxs ar
davujere, daTvi Cems sasaxleSi Camoviyvane, saukeTeso
qirurgebi daviqirave da ramodenime operaciis Semdeg,
romlebic wel naxevarze met xans grZeldeboda, daT­
vi gamojanmrTelda. Tavidan simarTle giTxra, xalxis
eSinoda, magram erTxelac Cemma personalma damiZaxa da
daTvTan misulma namdvil saswauls Seveswari, amxela
daTvi, namdvili mkvleli Tavis momvlels eTamaSeboda,
exuteboda da efereboda, maSin yvelas gvixaroda da
yvela avRniSnavdiT imas, rom amxela mxeci bedis ama­
rad ar davtoveT da gadavarCineT.
jeikobs saxeze Rimili moadga da memgoni patara
cremlic ki Camouvarda Tvalidan.
_ megobaro, ar gegonos, rom am yvelafers umizezod
giyvebi, sanam meditaciis adgilamde mividodiT minda
kidev erTxel Sevexo fulis sakiTxs
_ gismen, jeikob
_ saerTod, sazogadoebaSi miRebulia azri, rom mdi­
dari xalxi cudebi, proWebi da borotebi arian, zog­
jer ki mTeli msoflios problemebsac Cven gvabrale­
ben. nu, imas ra Tqma sWirdeba, rom fuli Surs iwvevs
xalxSi, an adamianis yvelaze bnel mxarees amJRavnebs,
Tumca, merwmune, Zalian bevria iseTi mdidari, rome­
lic arabunebrivad did Tanxxebs qvelmoqmedebisTvis

90
Vako
 gascems, romlebic Zalian bevrs sikeTes Cadis, xan sa­
bavSvo baRebs aSenebs, xan eklesiebs, xan skolebs da a.S,
magram, miuxedavad am yvelafrisa, xalxi umeteswi­
lad mxolod negativs amCnevs...
ki, faqtia, fuli cudad araerTxel gamouyenebiaT,
fulis gamo omebi dauwyiaT da milionobiT adamiani
dauxociaT, Tumca es fulTan dakavSirebuli negatiu­
ri moqmedebebi ar niSnavs imas, rom yvela mdidari ada­
miani cudia. aq, megobaro erTi niuansia, Tu adamiani
mdidrebs aginebs, Tu mas miaCnia, rom yvela mdidari
cudia, es adamiani avtomaturad iketavs gzas amave
simdidris mopovebisa da SenarCunebisgan ,es xom ele­
mentarulia: Tu gjera rom mdidari xalxi cudia, rac
SesaZloa bavSvobaSive Sens irgvliv myofma xalxma Ca­
gibeWda TavSi, damijere qvecnobierad, gauazareblad
arc Sen mogindeba is, rom mdidari iyo, elementaru­
lad imis gamo, rom bunebiT yvela adamians gvinda kar­
gebi viyoT...
nu, ra Tqma unda Sen SesaZloa aTasjer Tqva `me rom
milioneri viyo aTas sikeTes gavakeTeb~, magram, samwu­
xarod Sen arasodes ar geqneba es milioni, radgan Sen
TviTon uaryavi simdidre, sxva mdidari xalxis ginebiT
da zustad amitom, Seni sityvebi mxolod pirferobaa
da meti araferi.
principSi, am etapze fulze veRarafers davamateb,
Tan TiTqmis movediT, ai, gamoCnda kidec, xedav, mego­
baro?
win patara goraki iyo, romelic xels miSlida jei­
kobis mier miTiTebuli adgilis danaxvaSi, amitomac
mis mwvervalze avedi, zemoT asulma ki uzxarmazari xe­
ebi davinaxe, gasaocari simwvane, aseTi buneba cxovre­
baSi erTxel Tu meqneboda nanaxi, ki, erTxel, ra dama­

91
Vako
 viwyebs, es iyo erTi gansakuTrebuli da Zalian patara
qveynis mTebze, xedi Tvalebs Wrida Tavis silamaziT
da yvelaze karg, dadebiT, pozitiur emociebs iwvevda.
_ jeikob, es xom... es xom namdvili samoTxea deda­
miwaze?
_ wamomyevi, megobaro, jer sad xar.
rac ufro vuaxlovdebodi am silamazes, miT ufro
wynar da sasiamovno SegrZnebebs vRebulobdi, erTi
suli mqonda, rodis Sevidodi am samoTxeSi, uceb isic
mominda, rom aq davrCeniliyavi samudamod, samyaros
dasasrulamde. ukve warmomedgina, Tu rogor visveneb­
di amdeni yoveldRiuri da yovelwamieri gaubedurebu­
li saxeebisgan, amdeni sinanulisgan...
jeikobma mxarze xeli damado, cota Semaqanava da mi­
Txra
_ gamofxizldi, movediT!
or uzarmazar xes Soris videqiT, Cven win ki sul
patara, wvrili gza gadioda, tyeSi pirveli nabijis ga­
dadgmisTanave jeikobma am tyis istoriis moyola CaT­
vala saWirod.
_ yvelaferi, rasac aq xedav, xeebi, palmebi, yvavi­
lebi, TviTon miwac ki, msoflios gansxvavebuli wer­
tilebidan maqvs gadmotanili, bavSvobidan vocnebobdi
aseT patara samoTxeze da, roca gavmdidrdi daviwye
misi Senebac, age es xe (jeikobma TiTiT mimiTiTa)
2500 wlisaa, mis transportirebaSi 2467 adamiani mo­
nawileobda, warmoidgine, ra Zalebia daxarjuli imi­
saTvis, rom am silamazes aqamde moeRwia. mokled, me
da jeikobs kidev daaxloebiT 15 wuTis ganmavlobaSi
fexiT siaruli gviwevda da man TiTqmis mTeli tyis
macxovreblebis istoria momiyva da am siarulSi uceb
gaCerda

92
Vako
 _ gesmis?
_ ki jeikob, mesmis.
me maleve temps avuCqare, jeikobs aRar velodi da
CanCqeris xmisken gavemgzavre.
aseT rames adre marto wignebSi Tu amovikiTxavdi:
Tavidan patara xis qoxi davinaxe, romelic kldis piras
idga da mis ukan myof uzarmazar CanCqers efarebo­
da, CanCqeris wyali tonobiT ecemoda bunebriv, Zalian
Rrma baseinSi, xolo TviTon CanCqeris mimdebared, da­
navardn wylis gverdiTac ki, raRac iSviaTi silamazis
xeebs vxedavdi. mokled, am silamazis gadmocemas mTe­
li Cemi fantaziis unari ar eyofa, imdenad kargi sana­
xaoba damxvda iq.
am patara qoxis gverdiT Zalian komfortuli tax­
tebi idga. erT-erTze jeikobi Camojda meoreze ki me.
_ gesmis, ara? es aris idealuri adgili sakuTari
Tavis mosasmenad
_ marTlac. jeikob, simarTle giTxra, didi siamov­
nebiT vicxovrebdi aq da Cems saqmes vinme sxvas gada­
vabarebdi, da jeikob, ici ra?
_ gismen.
_ TviTon meditaciis Tematika Zalian didia da mem­
goni ajobes maleve daviwyoT am Temaze saubari ras
ityvi?
_ ki, geTanxmebi.
jeikobma, rogorc yovelTvis Rrmad CaisunTqa,
azrebi daalaga da daiwyo.
_ damwyebisaTvis, visac arasodes ar ucdia medita­
ciis praqtika didi informacia arc aris saWiro, nu,
aris raRac sabaziso da savaldebulo codna, romelic
aucilebelia da romelsac agixsni.
ai, magalTad, meditacias ara aqvs Cqari efeqti,
aqedan gamomdinare damwyebma unda icodes, rom Sesa­

93
Vako
 Zloa misma meditirebis praqtikam pirvel erT TveSic
ki aranairi efeqti ar moitanos. meditaciis dawyebis
periodSi, nu pirvel dReebSi da SesaZloa pirvel or
TveSic ki, adamians didi nebisyofis gamoCena dasWir­
des imisaTvis, rom wamowyebuli saqme uefeqturobis
gamo Sua gzaze ar miatovos.
_ moica, rogor Tu efeqti ar eqneba?
_ mokled, meditirebis dros Sen unda SeaCero Seni
azrebi, amis gasakeTeblad mTeli Seni yuradReba Sens
sunTqvaze da misgan gamosul grZnobebze unda gadai­
tano da uefeqtobaSi imas vgulisxmob, rom meditaciis
pirvel dReebSi, roca yuradRebis sunTqvaze gadatana
gagiWirdeba ,sulieri simSvidis magier Wkuidan SeiZle­
ba gadaxvide.
_ ratom?
_ Tavidan sul geqneba iseTi azrebi, rom raRac ar
gamogdis, meditaciis dros aucileblad gagaxsendeba
yvela is sakeTebeli saqme, romelic aqamde mniSvnelo­
vani ar iyo da, ratomRac zustad meditaciis dros
gansakuTrebulad saWiro gaxdeba, mere, erT adgilze
jdomis SeuCvevelobis gamo, yovelTvis raRac moge­
fxaneba, mokled, am saqmis misatoveblad Zalian bevri
mizezi gamoCndeba, miTumetes yvela es mizezi obieq­
turad mogeCveneba, radgan meditaciisgan jerjerobiT
veranair efeqts ver miiReb, ai, zustad es periodi au­
cileblad unda daZlio! me magaliTad 26-e dRes vigr­
Zeni pirveli efeqtebi meditaciis praqtikisgan.
_ da efeqtebSi ras gulisxmob?
_ magaliTad, bevrad ufro dakvirvebuli xdebi, amC­
nev imas, rasac aqamde ver amCnevdi, Sens irgvliv samya­
ro sityvis pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT icvleba, yvelafe­
ri sul sxvanairi xdeba, Seni azrebi mudam tonusSia da

94
Vako
 mudmivi uazro Sinagani dialogi, axal etapze gadadis,
Sen iwyeb sakuTari azrebis kontrols da ra Tqma unda
stressac bevrad ufro advilad umklavdebi, vidre
aqamde (meditirebis praqtikamde) SegeZlo.
me piradad: 26-e dRes, gareT gasulma, ena kinaRam
gadavylape, aseTi Rrublebi arasdros ar minaxavs, es
iyo raRac saocari sanaxaoba. meditaciis daxmarebiT
me viswavle elementaruli silamazis SemCneva, rome­
lic sul Cems irgvliv iyo da romelsac ubralod ver
vamCnevdi, magram samwuxarod, am Cems axsnas Tu ra efe­
qtebs moitans meditacia, azri ar aqvs, merwmune, es
yvelaferi adamianma TviTon unda SeigrZnos.
_ kargi, gasagebia, axla modi TviTon meditaciis
procesi amiRwere.
_ mokled, dasawyisSi gTavazob 3 tipis meditacias.
I. sunTqva
II. skanireba
III. mosmena-xmebi
yvela maTganis Sesruleba Zalian advilia da SeiZle­
ba, rogorc cal-calke iseve _ kombinirebulad.
I. sunTqvis meditacia.
ipove komfortuli da wynari adgili, iseTi sadac
aravin ar Segawuxebs da dajeqi, zurgi aucileblad
unda iyos sworad da fexebi unda exebodes iataks.
xelebi moaTavse komfortulad, daxuWe Tvalebi da
gaakeTe ramodenime Rrma SesunTva-amosunTqva, Sem­
deg daakvirdi sakuTar organizms sunTqvis procesis
dros: daakvirdi Tu rogor ibereba muceli, rogor
iweva mxrebi maRla, rogor ivseba filtvebi haeriT da
rogor Sedis haeri cxvirSi, ubralod SeigrZeni es yve­
laferi, ecade daiviwyo yvela Seni miznebi, saqmeebi,
ocnebebi, sadardebeli da ubralod isunTqe.

95
Vako
 aseve SegiZlia sunTqvis siCqare akontrolo. magali­
Tad SeisunTqe haeri rac SeiZleba nela da aseve nela
gamouSvi ukan, an SegiZlia SeisunTqo haeri da ramo­
denime wamiT SeaCero sunTqva da am dros daakvirde
yvela Sinagan grZnobas. mokled, meditaciisas sunTqvis
Zalian bevri variantia da SegiZlia ise isunTqo, ro­
gorc Sen mogindeba, mTavaria SeZlo am sunTqvis dros
grZnobebze dakvirveba.
II. skanireba
am SemTxvevaSi mTeli Seni yuradReba sakuTar orga­
nizmze gadagaqvs,
ubralod daakvirdi rogor exeba Seni zurgi savar­
Zels, ras grZnob am dros?
Semdeg gadaitane yuradReba xelebze, SeigrZeni yve­
laferi maTSi, SeiZleba patara pulsirebac igrZno, ro­
melic ra Tqma unda Seni organizmis mudmivi procesia,
magram Cveulebriv mdgomareobaSi ver amCnev, Semdeg
gadaitane yuradReba gulis areSi da TviTon gulis
feTqva SeigrZeni. mokled, aqac sruliad Tavisufali
xar, SegiZlia yvela Seni nawilis skanirebas Seudge.
III. mosmena-xmebi
am meditaciis dros gadaitane Seni yuradReba irg­
vliv myof xmebze, magaliTad macivris muSaobaze, gza­
ze moZrav manqanebis xmebze, mokled ,yvelaferze rasac
Seni smena miswvdeba.
principSi, es aris, megobaro, amaze advilad medi­
taciis process fizikurad ver agixsnidi, danarCeni ki
mxolod Senzea damokidebuli.
_ aris kidev rame, rac unda icodes damwyebma?
_ ki! meditaciis dros Sen aucileblad dagekargeba
koncentracia, Seni Sinagani dialogi isev CairTveba, da
es normaluria! maSin, roca mixvdebi, rom k­ oncentracia

96
Vako
 dakarge da sunTqvis magier sakuTar azrebs usmen, ara­
viTar SemTxvevaSi ar eCxubo sakuTar Tavs, esec me­
ditaciis nawilia, es aris is gardauvali ram, rasac
verasdros ver Secvli, azrebi sul gageqceva, mTavari
is aris, rom zustad azrebis gaqcevis momenti gamoiWi­
ro da isev yvelanairi nerviulobis gareSe daubrunde
sunTqvas, an skanirebas, an xmebs, nu rasac akeTeb imas.
saerTod pirveli periodi, 8 wuTiani meditirebidan
2 wuTi Tu SeZeli koncentrireba da sxva danarCeni pe­
riodi azrebSi ifrine, es ukve damijere Zalian kargi
Sedegia.
_ kargi da rame konkretuli programa xom ar geqneba
damwyebisTvis?
_ elementaruli!
ubralod sakuTar 6 mizanSi yoveldRiurad Cawere
(meditacia 8 wuTi).
_ modi, SevajamoT, jeikob. gamodis, dReSi 8 wuTi
sakmarisi iqneba meditirebisTvis da rac ar unda iyos,
rogor uazroc ar unda moeCvenos es saqme adamians,
mainc unda ganagrZos praqtika?
_ ki, ki da ki! Tu ki adamiani am saqmes daiwyeb geyos
imdeni nebisyofa, rom am yvelaze Znel periods gau­
Zlo, periods sadac uamravi mizezia saqmis mitovebis­
Tvis, sadac Sedegebs didi xnis manZilze ar Rebulob
da ggonia, rom araferi ar gamogdis.
_ kargi, axla ar minda Sansis gaSveba da modi, orivem
erTad vcadoT meditireba.
jeikobi usityvod dameTanxma, jibidan Tavisi smar­
tfoni amoiRo da taimeri 8 wuTze daayena.
orivem Tvalebi davxuWeT da meditacias SevudeqiT.
zustad 8 wuTSi SevwyviteT es saqme da ramodenime
wuTis ganmavlobaSi am mSvenieri bunebis siCumiTa da
siwynariT vtkbebodiT.

97
Vako
 _ jeikob, axla me minda raRac SemogTavazo
_ gismen, megobaro.
_ mokled, me minda gelaparako cxovrebis im nawil­
ze, romelic aravis ar siamovnebs, Tumca amaze sauba­
ric saWiroa, me minda gesaubro Worebze, kritikaze da
Surze, magram amisTvis unda gamomyve iq sadac me wa­
val, ubralod Cveni dialogi Zalian gaiwela da gamige,
me sxva xalxTanac var wasasvleli.
_ ki raTqmaunda gamogyvebi, darwmunebuli var sain­
teresoc iqneba.

Wori, kritika, Suri

Cemi samuSao sia xelSi aviRe da daviwye Semdegi ada­

mianis arCeva, axla Cems xelSi unda Cavardniliyo 2 Svi­
lis mama, cisferTvaleba simpatiuri mamakaci saxelad
niki.

Suri

me da jeikobi portirebisTvis gavemzadeT da sul

male patara saporto qalaqSi, sruliad Cveulebriv
binaSi aRmovCndiT, araferi gansakuTrebuli: 3 oTaxi,
vana-tualeti,mokled Cveulebrivi arc mdidruli da
arc Raribuli bina ar iyo, sanam jeikobi Cveni naxto­
misgan azrze modioda, Cvens oTaxSi axalgazrda kaci
Semovida. jeikobisgan gansxvavebiT Tvalebi Camqrali
hqonda, is iseTi adamianis warmodgenas tovebda, ro­
melsac saerTod ar gaaCnda sicocxlis xalisi, TiTqos

98
Vako
 yvelafriT daiRala, TiTqos yvelaferi mobezrda...
mokled, am axalgazrdas yvelaferi avuxseni da Sfo­
Tva gauvida Tu ara vTxove misi bolo dialogi Cagve­
tarebina.
sul raRac 10-wuTiani dialogis Semdeg gavige, rom
mas Zalian Zneli bavSvoba hqonda gamovlili, ded-mama
daSorebuli hyavda, es da misi Zma dedasTan cxovrobd­
nen da samwuxarod, dedis mizeruli xelfasi ar aZlev­
da saSualebas magas da mis Zmas, ubnis sxva bavSvebiviT
saTamaSoebis goraSi ebanavaT da Tundac axali tansa­
cmeli, yovel sezonze eyidaT. aseve masTan dialogSi
gavigeT is, rom mas hyavda erTi megobari, romelsac
yvelaferi hqonda, iyo es saTamaSoebi Tu tansacmeli,k
ompiuteri Tu mobiluri telefoni, mokled, araferi
ar aklda da miuxedavad imisa, rom es megobari Zalian
xelgaSlili da keTili iyo, nikis Sinagani usamarTlo­
bis grZnoba mudmivad Tan dasdevda da ase grZeldebo­
da wlebis ganmavlobaSi iqamde, sanam nikis megobarma
meti ar moindoma. mas biznesis dawyeba mounda, radgan
finasnuri mdgomareoba gaeumjobesebina, rogorc is
ambobda: `me rom es gamomivides yvela kargad vicxo­
vrebT, gasaWirs daviviwyebT, gesmis nik?~.
da maSinve, am sityvebis Semdeg nikis gonebaSi gaiel­
va: `gasaWirze es rogor melaparakeba, manqana mainc ar
hyavdes!~
mokled, saintereso dialogi gvqonda, sadac jeiko­
bi Carevas cdilobda, Tumca, ratomRac, niki jeikobis
arc erT kiTxvas ar pasuxobda, is absoliturad yve­
laferze aignorebda mas, sabolood ki iqamde mivediT,
rom jeikobi erT-erTi daignorebis Semdeg wamoxta da
dauyvira nikis Tu rato ar pasuxobda mas, razec aseTi
pasuxi miiRo.

99
Vako
 _ yvelaferi! yvelaferi gesmis?! Tqveni bralia, ggo­
nia ar vici vina xar?
dafrinavT am Tqvens TviTmfrinavebSi, kunZulidan
kunZulze isvenebT da Cven Cveulebrivi xalxi aras­
dros ar gainteresebT.
jeikobs sulac ar gaukvirda nikis eseTi pasuxi da
arc arafris Tqmas ar apirebda.
_ Tqven xom mudam fulis SovnaSi xarT! riT ver
gaZexiT?! riT ver danayrdiT?! Cvenc gvacadeT cxo­
vreba!
jeikobi isev wynarad ijda da nikis TvalebSi uyu­
rebda ise, mommarTa: `megobaro mgoni ajobebs aqedan
wavideT.~
mec bevri ar mifiqria, jeikobi risTvisac moviyvane
is ukve davanaxe.
ramodenime wuTSi Cemi saqmec Sevasrule da jeikob­
Tan erTad isev mis CanCqerTan gadavedi.
_ ratom ar uTxari araferi?
_ da azri? isedac verafers Sevcvlidi, mas sjera,
rom me da saerTod mdidrebi, yvela misi problemis
mizezni varT, samwuxaroa amis Tqma, magram nikim bavS­
vobidanve Tavisi azrovneba arasworad ganaviTara, imis
magier, rom Tavisi megobris cxovreba samagaliTod
ganexila, man Suris gza airCia da, damijere, rac ar
unda vumtkico, sul rom yvela Cemi Cadenili sikeTe
davanaxo, is mainc Tavis azrze darCeba. Suriani xalxi,
samwuxarod yvela maseT mcdelobas metiCrobas eZaxis
da ufro da ufro rwmundebian Tavis simarTleSi.
_ rogor ggonia Suriani adamianis gamosworeba Sei­
Zleba?
_ mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tu TviTon moindomebs
amas, magram esec Zalian Zneli misaRwevia. zogadad

100

Vako
 iSviaTia Surian adamians, SeeZlos Tavisi Surianobis
danaxva da aRiareba, isini Surs aRiqvamen, rogorc sa­
marTlis mompovebel instruments, maSin, roca Suri da
misi realuri saxe damangrevelia da yvelam unda eca­
dos misi damorCileba.
manam sanam sxvisi gSurs, sakuTar Tavs yvela gzas
ublokav ama Tu im situaciis gaumjobesebisgan.
_ marTali xar, jeikob, Surian adamians veravin ver
uSvelis Tu ki TviTon ar moindomebs sakuTar TavSi
amis gamosworebas, Tumca faqtia, visac gamosworeba
unda, is yovelTvis ipovis gamosavals.
_ im SemTxvevaSi, Tu romelime adamiani sakuTar Ta­
vSi Suris-Surianobis aRiarebas SeZlebs, SeiZleba iT­
qvas, rom mas naxevarze meti saqme gakeTebuli aqvs,
Semdegi etapi unda iyos mTeli fokusis sakuTar cxo­
vrebaze gadmotana: roca gSurs mTeli Seni yuradRe­
ba gadarTulia im adamianis miRwevebze, moRvaweobaze,
minusebsa da pliusebze, mokled, im adamianze visic
gSurs da Suris dasamarcxeblad, mis mosaSoreblad
saWiroa mxolod mTeli fokusis sakuTar saqmianobaze,
miznebze da miRwevebze gadmotana, da im SemTxvevaSi,
Tu SeZleb raime axali Sedegis dadebas, raime didis
miRwevas, gaiazreb, rom Turme ai is visic gSurs, zus­
tad Sennairad ibrZvis imisaTvis, rac aqvs, imisaTvis
risic Sen aqamde gSurda da momavalSi es adamiani Su­
ris samiznidan samagaliTo, misabaZ adamianadac ki ga­
daiqceva.
_ mokled, jeikob, Tu vinmes moundeba Surisgan mo­
Soreba, es patara informacia kisramde eyofa, xolo
zarmacs, Tavis bedTan Seguebuls, visac Suri Tvalebs
ufaravs da adekvaturobas akargvinebs es patara teqs­
ti ki ara aTi aTasi sityva rom miuZRvna ver uSvelis.

101

Vako
 me da jeikobs Soris siCume Camovarda. es Tema im­
denad negatiuri da Zneli gansaxilveli iyo, rom arc
erTs ar gvindoda didxans SevCerebuliyaviT masze.
_ jeikob, kidev rames xom ar daamatebdi am Temas?
_ ki! Suri imdenad Zlieri negatiuri energiis mqo­
ne grZnobaa, rom is ara mxolod mis matarebels, ara­
med mis samiznesac azianebs, simarTle giTxra Cemi
gzis dasawyisSi yvelaze Zneli, rac CemTvis iyo, es
iyo Suriani xalxisgan Tavis dacva, maSin imdenad
sufTa azrovnebis viyavi, rom arc ki gavifiqrebdi,
Tu vinmes SeSurdeboda Cemi, ki, maxsovs rom Suriani
xalxi mudam myavda irgvliv da mudam miWirda maTi
uazro Setevebis gageba-aRqma, magram me mainc mje­
roda am xalxis gulwrfeli, dadebiTi grZnobebis da
aqedan gamomdinare yvela gulis mtkenel sityvebs, an
moqemdebebs rasac isini Cadiodnen Cems mimarT, isev
sakuTar Tavze vibralebdi da maT gamarTlebas vc­
dilobdi, Tumca erTxelac mombezrda, gaviazre, Tu
ramdens marTmevs es xalxi, mivxvdi, rom maT gverdiT
verafers mivaRwev da yvela Suriani megobari, Tu na­
Tesavi moviSore.
_ moyevi rogor moxda eg
_ es iyo Cemi pirveli biznesis periodSi.
17 dRe!
zustad es dro iyo saWiro imisaTvis, rom Cemi cxo­
vreba radikalurad Secvliliyo!
yvelaferi daiwyo imiT, rom me, Cems megobrebs bi­
znes idea warvudgine, romelic sakmaod ambiciuri da
amavdroulad banaluri iyo, rac mis realobaSi da­
rwmunebuls gvxvdida. mokled, yvela megobari dainte­
resda, Tvalebi gagvinaTda da mTeli pasuxismgeblobiT
movekideT am saqmes. pirveli dReebi yvela damatebiTi

102

Vako
 informaciis gasagebad davrbodiT, yvela Signidan viw­
vodiT da erTmaneTis enTuziazmi wamiTac ar gvaZlevda
uflebas warmatebaSi eWvi Segvparvoda, imdenad Zlieri
Sinagani mondomeba gagviCnda, rom Cven Soris erTgvari
uCinari Zafebi Seiqmna, yvela erTqnairad dadebiTad
vazrovnebdiT, idea ideaze mogvdioda da Sen warmoi­
dgine es 21-24 wlis biWebs, universitetidan samsaxu­
rebze meocnebe xalxs, Sansi gamogviCnda, Sansi ukeTe­
si cxovrebisTvis da ra Tqma unda Cvenc maqsimalurad
viyenebdiT am SesaZleblobas.
_ da TviTon biznes idea risgan Sedgeboda?
_ yvelaze banaluri ramisgan, rac ki warmogidgenia,
avtosamrecxaoebis qseli. ubralod davinaxe SesaZle­
bloba, romelsac umravlesoba ver xedavda. me vmsje­
lobdi ai ase: Tu erT avtosamrecxaos moaqvs raRac
mogeba, maSin 10 avtosamrecxao ramden fuls moitans?
da 100? 1000?
mokled ideis perspeqtivas yvela kargad vxedavdiT,
samwuxarod, realoba arc Tu iseTi pozitiuri aRmoC­
nda, rogoric warmomedgina,saqmis dawyebisTanave me
mindoda patara umniSvnelo saqmeebis Cabareba daqira­
vebul muSakebze da amave dros Cveni inteleqtualuri
SesaZleblobebis sxva ufro mniSvnelovan saqmeebSi ga­
moyeneba, rogoricaa marketingi, investorebis mozid­
va, xalxTan molaparakeba da a.S.
axla dalagebulad ki gesaubrebi, magram maSin ar
mqonda aseTi moqmedebebis dalagebuli gegma da amito­
mac Cemi da Cemi biWebis xedva gaiyo, isini ZiriTadad
muSaobdnen Tavis fizikuri SesaZleblobebiT (recxa­
vdnen manqanebs) me ki xan sad viyavi xan sad, yovel dRe
axali xalxis gacnobas vcdilobdi da Cemi SesaZleblo­
bebis 110%-s viyenebdi, yvelaze didi pliusi ki is iyo,

103
Vako
 rom Cvens samrecxaos namdvili revoluciis mowyobac
ki SeeZlo.
_ revoluciis?
_ ki zustad, erT-erTi megobris idea Sedgeboda ima­
Si, rom Cveni Semosavlis 8% qvelmoqmedebaSi gagveca,
amasTan erTad mag periodSi Zalian did popularobas
sargeblobda xeSTegebi da aqac Zalian Tanamedrove
samrecxao gamogvivida, radgan Cveni slogani xmau­
rian Sedegad iTvleboda #Sansi axalgazrdebs, romel­
sac vSifravdiT, rogorc erTgvar SeZaxils imisaTvis,
rom irgvliv myof xalxs CvenTvis xeli ar SeeSala.
mokled, es yvelaferi erTad (studentebis biznesi,
pirveli saqvelmoqmedo samrecxao im qveyanaSi sadac
viyaviT, slogani, idea, dro, adgili, SesaZleblobebi)
maZlevda uflebas da saSualebas, rac SeiZleba xmamaR­
la ganmecxada Cvens proeqtze, romelsac ra Tqma unda
viyenebdi, me yvelgan xmamaRla vambobdi, rom aseTi
proeqti gvaqvs da pirveli saqvelmoqmedo samrecxaoa,
simarTle giTxra, Zalian bevri iyo iseTi vinc damci­
noda, bevri ambobda, rom qvelmoqmedeba ki ara namdvi­
li aferistobaa, magram yvelam kargad viciT, rom dam­
cinavad gviyurebs iseTi xalxi, romlebsac TviTon ar
SeuZlia ramis gakeTeba, romlebsac TviTon ar gaaCnia
individualuroba da Sno imisTvis, rom rame gaakeTos,
aseve isic viciT, rom aferistobas sxvaSi ZiriTadad
xedavs xolme TviTon matyuara adamiani. magram es sul
sxva Temaa.
mokled, megobaro, bevr niuanss ra Tqma unda ar vy­
vebi, dameTanxmebi albaT imaSi, rom aris warsulSi ise­
Ti raRaceebi, rac warsulSive unda iyos darCenili da
gasaxseneblad ar Rirs, ubralod erTs getyvi, me maSin
erTdroulad davetake Surs, zizRs, kritikas, cilis

104
Vako
 wamebas, Worebs da sxva mraval sibinZures. erTi Tvec
ar iyo gasuli Cveni saqmis dawyebis momentidan, roca
me mag proeqtis datoveba gadavwyvite da biWebmac Cemi
wamosvlidan 4 dReSi yvelaferi daxures, es iyo Cemi
pirveli didi kraxi, romelic pirvel rigSi daangria
Cemma uZlurobam da gamoucdelobam negativTan brZo­
laSi...
magram es iyo zustad is kraxi, romelmac mTlianad
Secvala Cemi cxovreba, romelmac samudamod gamaZlie­
ra da bavSvuri vardisferi saTvaleebi momaxsnevina!
_ axla ras fiqrob im periodze?
_ madlobeli var, madlobis meti araferi meTqmis,
is Ralati, is Suri, kritika da sxva mravali ram, rom
ara, dRes sul sxva cxovreba meqneboda, merwmune es
iyo saukeTeso gakveTili Cems cxovrebaSi.
axla ki, mxolod is SemiZlia vTqva, rom yvelas vpa­
tiob, vpatiob Cems megobrebs, romlebmac miRalates
,vpatiob Cems mtrebs, romlebmac ena gaagdes, vpatiob
Cems Tavs, romelmac misca xalxs im yvelafris Cadenis
ufleba, vpatiob yvelas da yvelafers.
_ jeikob, kargad iqcevi, Cemi mravalwlovani gamoc­
dilebidan vici, rom sibrazis gulSi Cadeba ar Rirs,
rac warsulSi iyo, iq unda darCes da erTaderTi, rac
adamians evaleba, egaa apatios borotmoqmeds da ma­
dloba mouxados mas miRebuli cxovrebiseuli gamoc­
dilebisaTvis!
Cems naTqvamze jeikobs gaeRima da Cvens Soris isev
siCume Camovarda...
_ gadavideT sxva Temaze?
_ jer ara, kidev maqvs saTqmeli, rac piradad me
mexeboda da wlebis ganmavlobaSi mawuxebda, SeiZleba
vinmes gamoadges...

105
Vako
 me myavda erTi Zalian axlo `Suriani~ megobari, eg
adamiani CemiT wlebis ganmavlobaSi manipulirebda, ra­
Rac konkretuli frazebiT da zustad am frazebze min­
da gesaubro.
_ aba gismen.
_ Suriani xalxSi sakmaod gavrcelebulia frazebi:
`ra iSove aseTi~, `fuli iSove da xalxi aRar ginda xo?~
da sxva mravali amdgavari tipis fraza... CemTvis daJe
uTqvamT `ra waikiTxe aseTi rom aRar gaintereseb?~
mokled, yvela am winanadebis mizani mxolod erTia,
gagrZnobinos Tavi damnaSaved da valdebulad mTqme­
lis winaSe, Tu vinmes yavs aseTi adamiani, maSin gamosa­
vali mxolod erTia, Tqven unda gaecaloT mas.
Sen unda moSorde eseT adamians, radgan mas ar uxa­
ria Seni warmateba da arc arasdros gauxardeba, Sen
mas verc gamoasworeb da verc daakmayofileb, merwmune
sakuTari gamocdilebidan vici: rac ar unda daexma­
ro, finansurad Tu moralurad, eseTi adamiani ar ga­
moswordeba, is arasdros ar Seicvleba da uaresic, is
ufro da ufro daemsgavseba parazits, romelic Seni
yvelafriT daiwyebs kvebas. piradad CemTvis, megobaro,
Zneli iyo aseT adamianisgan ganSoreba, TiTqos raRac
Sinagani SiSi makavebda, iyo dro aseTi tipis azrebi
momdioda: `RmerTma icis ras ityvis Cemze~ an `codoa,
rac ar unda minusebi hqondes mainc vuyvarvar da mova
dro, roca daafasebs Cems saqcielebs~ ara, ara, ara,
ara, ara ara, da ara! araferi ar Seicvleba, manipula­
tors ukve xelSi yavxar da iqamde ar gaCerdeba sanam
bolomde ar SegWams, rogorc ukve vTqviT Surian ada­
mians miaCnia, rom is Tavisi laparakiT an saqcieliT
aRdgens samarTals, aqedan gamomdinare, Seni yvela si­
keTe yvela daxmareba, xelis gaSla, misTvis savalde­

106

Vako
 bulo saqcielad iTvleba, rac wamSi aufasurebs yvela
Sens Cadenil sikeTes.
_ da aseTi xalxis moSoreba advilia?
_ gaaCnia, visTvis rogor, aris xalxis kategoria
visTvisac Zalian advilia, magram Cemnair xalxs (zogi
alals gveZaxis, zogi bavSvs da zogic debils) gviWirs
aseTi xalxisgan Tavis daZleva.
_ da Sen rogor daanebe Tavi aseT urTierTobas?
_ Cemda sabednierod mivxvdi, rom Cemi megobris ga­
mosworeba ar moxdeboda da ubralod movukeli masTan
kontaqts, arc mis mobiluris zarebs vpasuxobdi, arc
socialur qselebSi vwerdi da Tu odesme sadme Sevxv­
debodiT erTmaneTs aTas mizezs veubnebodi viTom ra­
tom ar vwerdi da mainc rom ar momSorda iqiT davuwye
daxmarebis Txovna, xan fuls vTxovdi xan ramis gakeTe­
bas. nu, ra Tqma unda amis mere TviTon maridebda Tavs,
simarTle giTxra es saqcieli arc gamkvirvebia.
_ anu iqiT roca Txove daxmareba aRar Wirdebodi
xo?
_ ahahha ho, albaT ifiqra momaSoreT es maTxovario.
patara pauzis Semdeg me da jeikobma axal Temaze ga­
dasvla gadavwyviteT da axal personaJTan gadavediT.

kritika

es iyo moxuci qalbatoni,sakmaod xandazmuli, Zalian

boroti, cxovrebaze gabrazebuli saxiT, masTan saxl­
Si didi negatiuri aura datrialebda, magram saubrisas
sakmaod inteligenturi qalbatonis azrs tovebda, arc
Rimili aklda arc enTuziazmi, arc Cemi da arc jeikobis

107
Vako
 ar eSinoda, dialogisas qalbatonma jeikobs Tavisi fo­
toalbomi miawoda da fotoebis Tvaliereba dagvawyebina.
_ ai es Cemi daqali iyo.
fotoze TiTiT mis gverdiT mdgom lamaz mandilo­
sanze migviTiTa.
degenerati ega!
viRac arabs gahyva colad, ki iZaxda miyvarsoo, ma­
gram me ar mjera.
es kide ai Cvens gverdiT, rom dgas Cemi Seyvarebuli
iyo, ar vici ra momwonda masSi axla misi danaxvac ar
minda fuu, amazrzeni ega.
fotoalbomis dasrulebisas me da jeikobma ukve vi­
codiT vis ra nakli gaaCnda, vin ra daaSava, vin rogor
gabozda da sul cota xanSi bebos ena TviTon jeikob­
sac ki Seexo.
_ ra aris, ra saSineleba gacvia. aseT tansacmels
Zvel dros Tu Caicvamdnen marto, principSi arc Sen
gamoirCevi Zveli saukuneebisgan arafriT, ramdeni
wlis xar?
_ 77.
xmamaRla upasuxa jeikobma.
_ auh,me erTi 90-isa mainc megone.
jeikobs saxeze etyoboda Tu, rogor gaaRiziana am
qalis sityvebma, magram krinti mainc ar dauZravs.
_ xom ar gewyina rame? me ubralod simarTlis Tqma
miyvars!
wauyola qalbatonma.
_ xo simarTlis...
Cumad Tqva jeikobma da miTxra rom gareT damelo­
deboda sanam Cems saqmes davasrulebdi.
_ xom xvdebi es rac iyo?
gaRizianebulma miTxra man, roca mivuaxlovdi.

108

Vako
 _ ki, kritika. es qali mTeli cxovrebaa sxvebs akri­
tikebs. gaqvs rame saTqmeli am Temaze?
_ maqvs?
maqvs?!
xmas auwia, etyoba misTvis mtkivneul Temas Sevexe.
_ ki maqvs, bavSvobidan gamosulma, mamaze imedgacrue­
bulma sul dilidan dilamde vakritikebdi mas, nu xom
ici rogorc xdeba xolme: bevr bavSvs hgonia rom yo­
vlis SemZle mSoblebi hyavT da gazrdisas, realobasTan
datakebisas, xvdebian, rom maTi mSoblebic Cveulebrivi
adamianebi arian, Semdeg aqedan modis imedgacrueba, si­
braze da bevri sxva negativi, magram gTxov arasworad
ar gamigo, es ar niSnavs imas, rom mSoblebi rameSi damna­
Saveebi arian, aq yvelaferi bavSvzea damokidebuli, xom
ici rac ufro maRla xar miT ufro mwarea dacema, xoda
mamaCemi CemTvis yvelaze maRla idga, arc siyvaruls
vgulisxmob arc urTierTobas, ai, imis Tqma minda, rom
mamaCemi iyo CemTvis namdvili gmiri, sxvisi gmiri Tu
rkinis kaci an adamiani oboba iyo xolme, me aseTi gmiri
gverdiT myavda da am Cem TavSi Seqmnilma ararealurma
suraTma, zrdasrul asakSi didi ziani momayena. yvelaze
cudi aq is iyo, rom imedgacruebis Semdeg, misi Zlieri
mxareebis danaxvac aRar SemeZlo, yvelgan da yvelafer­
Si mis sisustes vxedavdi da arc vmalavdi amas.
`mama Sen amas arasworad akeTeb!~ `mama ase ar Sei­
Zleba~ mokled kritika kritikaze, rac ra Tmqma unda
maszec moqmedebda, saqme raSia ici?
me amiT imis Tqma minda, rom sanam vinmes gavakriti­
kebT, vkargavT adamianis realurad obieqturad Sefa­
sebis unars, kritika iseTi ram aris, rac CvevaSi Sedis
da sul male yvela Cvens irgvliv myof xalxSi mxolod
cuds dagvanaxebs. umravlesoba CvenTaganis fokusi,

109
Vako
 yuradReba cudze, negatiurzea mimarTuli da amis da­
naxva merwmune Zalian Znelia,me magaliTad kritikaze
SeCveuli: quCaSi siarulisas TiTqmis yvela gamvlelSi
vpoulobdi minusebs `es dabalia~, `amas cudi cxviri
aqvs~, `amas binZuri fexsacmeli acvia~ da merwmune am
kritikis Cvevis SemCneva sakuTar TavSi Zalian Znelia,
jer imitom rom Cveni aseTi azrovneba, Cveni socialu­
ri wridan gamomdinareobs da Semdeg imitom, rom ne­
gatiuri arovneba Cveni cxovrebis nawili xdeba da Sen
ubralod ar ici,rom aris SenSi is raRac, rac ganadgu­
rebs, rac gaZalebs akritiko sxva adamiani.
_ da Sen rogor mixvdi amas?
_ geficebi, sruliad uecrad, erT-erTi seirnobis
dros momivida azri, rom me irgvliv myof xalxSi mxo­
lod cuds vxedav, Semdeg im wamsve amoviRe dRiuri da
Cavwere `me xalxSi maT karg Tvisebebs vxedav~
_ kargs?
_ ho eg iyo axali afirmacia, romelic yovel dRe
unda mekeTebina. megobaro, mTavaria problema aRoaCi­
no, radgan zustad problemis aRmoCena aris saqmis 80-
90%, danarCeni ki sakuTar TavTan muSaobaze da dro­
zea damokidebuli, mokled mag dRis Semdeg yovelTvis
vcdilobdi mekontrolebina situacia, Tu ki vinmeze
cuds gavifiqrebdi, egreve vcdilobdi kargi Tviseba
menaxa masSi da simarTle giTxra vpoulobdi kidec.
_ anu Sen ginda Tqva, rom kritika gauazrebeli Cve­
vaa?
_ ki da metic, kritika negatiuri azrovnebis erT-­
erTi yvelaze Zlieri iaraRia.
akritikeb sxvas? _ sakuTars ver xedav.
es aucileblad unda moiSoros yvelam visac raRacis
miRweva surs.

110

Vako
 _ gasagebia, jeikob,axla droa Semdeg adamians mi­
vakiTxoT, is gvelodeba patara sofelSi sadac mxolod
156 adamiani cxovrobs.

Wori

roca me da jeikobi adgilze gavCndiT, iq ara mxo­

lod gardacvlili, aramed mTeli sofeli dagvxvda.
_ rogorc Cans, davigvianeT
_ miTxra jeikobma.
_ ara uSavs, icode, rom cocxlebi ver gvxedaven da
arc Cveni xma esmiT. amitom SegiZlia Tavisuflad igr­
Zno Tavi.
gvamis gverdiT, sul raRac ori nabijis daSorebiT,
Cveni axali megobari ijda da interesiT usmenda iqve
myof qalebs.
axlos mivediT, eg iyo misalmebas vapirebdiT da am
axalgazrda gogonam gvaniSna gvamTan mdgom or mandi­
losanze da gviTxra:
_ mousmineT amaT.
Cvenc ra Tqma unda davujereT da maT dialogs yuri
davugdeT.
_ uime, qalo, eg ra aris! mRvdeli Tu gaxsovs garda­
cvlili? ai, is mRvdeli, gei rom iyo?!
_ magas ra damaviwyebs. CauCurCula meorem.
_ hoda, es misi sayvareli iyo.
_ kargi, gogo, nu ambob sisuleles! saidan moitane
eg ambavi?
_ CemiT TvalebiT davinaxe, gogo! ras qvia sisulele,
rodis iyo, vityuebodi?!

111
Vako
 lamisaa dauyvira ise Seicxada am mandilosanma.
_ kai, kai, ra gayvirebs, gogo?
mjera, mjera, magram Sen is Tu ici, rom amas tvinSic
aklda?
_ ki gogo eg kai xania vici, gaCe, mamamisi modis, mere
gavagrZeloT!
gardacvlili gogonas mama oTaxSi Semovida Tu ara
yvelas fusfusi im wamsve SeCerda.
Cvenc dro gamoviyeneT da Cveni axali megobari im
wamsve gavicaniT.
es iyo iSviaTi silamazis, SavTmiani cisferTvaleba
gogona emili deizi.
_ ise, Cemze meti informaciis gageba Tu mogindebaT
ai, im marjvena gogos gayeviT, axla romelsac mouy­
ves Cemi da `gei mRvdlis~ ararsebul urTierTobaze da
merwmuneT Zalian ixalisebT. ai, SexedeT, axla midis,
Tqven ubralod ukan gayeviT cota ixaliseT da roca
dabrundebiT, mere visaubroT, me manamde mamis yure­
biT bolojer davtkbebi.
Cvenc gavyeviT im mandilosans da zustad 24 wamSi
namdvil gvelis soroSi aRmovCndiT.
8 qali raRacas gaSmagebiT ganixilavda.
_ uih, mia moxvediii?
kiTxa erT-erTma da Txova moeyola, Tu rame axali
ambavi icoda.
_ axali ambavi?!
Caicina miam.
_ magaliTad is, rom deizi mamamisis sayvareli iyo!
_ vaime, deda.
gulze daido erTma xeli da daayola:
_ es ra gaigo Cemma yurebma.
_ ki, ki masea, ninam momiyva yvelaferi da nina aras­
dros ar ityueba!

112
Vako
 jeikobs lamisaa Tvalebi gadmovardnona.
_ gaige, ra Tqva? Tu me momeCvena, megobaro?
_ ki gavige, jeikob. modi, wavideT aqedan.
sul male isev deizisTan viyaviT da samive misi
saxlis ukan, mdinaris piras gadavediT.
_ rao aba,ra gaigeT axali Cemze?
me da jeikobma yvelaferi movuyeviT, rac gavigeT,
magram deizis ratomRac aranairi reaqcia ar hqonda
ganagonze. Semdeg Cveni dialogi gagrZelda da ramode­
nime xanSi gairkva, rom es patara lamazi gogona sakmaod
naswavli da nakiTxi adamiani yofila. is imdenad Wkvia­
ni aRmoCnda,rom logikur da kreatiul azrovnebaSic
erTeulebi Tu Seejibrebodnen, rva ucxo ena icoda,
romelTaganac ori ukve mkvdar enebad iTvleboda. mok­
led, gogona namdvili unikumi aRmoCnda.
dialogis erT momentSi deizim, Cumad mjdomi jei­
kobis azriT dainteresda.
_ jeikob, TqvenTvis is, rasac SeeswariT ,xlosaa?
_ ki, Cemo kargo. es yvela brbosgan gansxvavebul
adamians emarTeba xolme, magram sakuTar Tavze lapa­
raki arc Tu ise minda. bolos da bolos, es Seni bolo
dialogia, amitomac, midi sayvarelo, Sen ilaparake da
me mogismen.
deizi did qvas mieyrdno da Tavisi azrebis gaxmova­
nebas Seudga.
_ iciT, mTeli Cemi cxovrebaa am xalxTan erTad
vcxovrobdi, versad ver mivdiodi, radgan mamaCems mar­
to ver vtovebdi. jer kidev bavSvobaSi ...
Rrmad SeisunTqa emilim
ver vxvebodi Tu ras Cadioda es Cems irgvliv myofi
xalxi, magram wamozrdilma mivxvdi, rom es Worebi, es
sxxvisi cxovrebis ganxilva, es yvelaferi, rasac Tqven

113
Vako
 SeeswariT, mxolod imed dakarguli xalxis Tvisebaa.
_ imed dakarguli? anu?
_ diax, imed dakarguli. aba rogor vuwodo imas, vi­
sac sxvisi cxovreba ufro ainteresebs vidre s­ akuTari?
gulwrfeladac getyviT, me mesmis am xalxis. roca
Sens irgvliv yvela Worikanaa, roca maT wreSi izrdebi,
realuria, ver xedav sxva samyaros da zustad amitom,
es saqcieli (Woraoba) xdeba Seni cxovrebis Cveulebri­
vi nawili.
mere, roca sxvisi gaWorva Sens Cvevad iqceva, roca
mxolod amiT cxovrob, Senc xdebi brbos erT-erTi nawi­
li, zustad im brbos, romelsac Surs, romelsac sZuls,
romelsac sZags yvelaferi kargi da ­gansxvavebuli.
ki, vici, rom agresiulad vlaparakob, magram Tqven
rogor moiqceodiT, Tqvenze aseTi Worebi rom gaevr­
celebinaT?
mTeli cxovrebaa pirSi micinian da, zurgs ukan imas
saubrobdnen, rom Turme `gei mRvdlis~ sayvareli viya­
vi da kidev uaresic, risi gameorebac ar minda... im­
denad amazrzeni gasagonia es Cemi yurebisTvis! saqme
raSia iciT?
es Worebi, sul ufro da ufro absurduli xdeba,
maTSi arc logika devs, miTumetes arc simarTle, es
`gei mRvdeli~ Cveni bavSvobis megobari iyo, romelic
CvenTan erTad gaizarda da pataraobidanve me movwonv­
di. is sul ukan damsdevda, xan siyvaruls mixsnida, xan
yvavilebs mCuqnida, me ki sul uarze viyavi, magram is,
Cveni soflis erT-erT gogos uyvarda, romelmac vera­
friT ver SeZlo am biWis mopoveba da am istoriis gagr­
Zelebas ukve Tqvenc SeeswariT, albaT xvdebiT, romel
gogos uyvarda es biWi...

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Vako
 mokled, am gogom biWs raRac sisuleleebi moufiqra
da mTel sofels gaagona, Semdeg es biWic Worebisgan
SeSinebuli wavida da berad aRikveca, magram mainc ara­
feri ar Secvlila, Worebma ubralod axali saxe miiRo
da am biWs bolomde sikvdilis merec ki gahyva,
ai, aman ukeT icis is risi Tqmac minda.
deizim jeikobze mimiTiTa da mec egreve jeikobs
vTxove Cvens dialogSi iniciativa gamoeCina. isic dam­
Tanxmda da saubars Seudga.
_ iciT, rac ar unda ecadoT, rogorc ar unda ebr­
ZoloT, Worebi yovelTvis iyo da yovelTvis iqneba. ai,
is mRvdelic, nu, ufroswored beri yofila da yvela
mRvdels ratom eZaxis, ver gavige, magram eg sul sxva
Temaa.
mokled, es kaci cdilobda xalxis sityvebis SeCe­
rebas, maTTvis raRacis damtkicebas, magram, aba, ras
SeZlebda? WorebTan brZolaSi efeqturi is ki ar aris,
rom vinmes rame daumtkico, aramed is, rom Worikana
adamians moerido, ar unda imegobro masTan!
imitom rom Tu vinme Sens winaSe sxvas Woravs,Tu sx­
vaze cud rameebs giyveba, rogor ggonia, sxvasTan Sen
ar gagWoravs?
_ ki, ra Tqma unda.
_ hoda amitom, ar SeiZleba aseT xalxTan urTierTo­
ba. Tu Sen da aseTi adamiani erT sofelSi cxovrobT,
Tu yvela mase moazrovne adamiani gyavs irgvliv, ubra­
lod wadi!
wadi, radac ar unda dagijdes, ar gaCerde iq sadac
xar! ar gaCerde am gvelis soroSi!
deizim Zalian didi Secdoma dauSva.
misi darCenis mizezi, ra Tqma unda Zalian seriozu­
li iyo, mamamiss ver datovebda, magram...

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Vako
 _ da es Secdoma iyo?
uceb vkiTxe me da im wamsve miviRe pasuxi, oRond
ukve deizisgan.
_ ki, ki, ki, ki, ki da ki, saSineli Secdoma iyo. mama­
Cemi uCemod icocxlebda mainc, me ki iqidan davexmare­
bodi sadac fexs avidgamdi, axal cxovrebas daviwyebdi
da saerTodac CemTan gadmoviyvandi Cems bebers, magram
me, sulelma, debilma aq darCena varCie da ra miviRe?
vin icis, iq sxva cxovrebaSi ra meqneboda? ras mi­
vaRwevdi. egeb mSvenieri dizaineri vyofiliyavi? so­
felSi xom yvelas Cemi Sekerili kabebi acvia! an egeb
warmatebuli modeli gavmxdariyavi?
magram me Cemi arCevani gavakeTe. davrCi Surian, Wo­
rikana xalxis gvediT da mizezs `mama~ davarqvi.
eg iyo da deizim tirili daiwyo, sinanuli imdenad
Zlieri iyo verc me da verc jeikobi vityodiT rames.
gesmis, mkiTxvelo?!
Sen SeiZleba Tqva, rom me sikvdili var, me yvelafe­
ri SemiZlia da am gogos aq datovebac Cemi arCevania,
magram gaiazre: me am cxovrebis erT-erTi gardauvali
nawili var da damijere aucileblad moval SenTan da
ras metyvi rogor ggonia? metyvi, rom Senc raRac mi­
zezis gamo, raRac mniSvnelovani ar gaakeTe? Sen iseve
rogorc jeikobs, deizis da yvela danarCen adamians, 24
saaTi gaqvs yovel dRe da damijere TiTo saaTi am 24-
dan axali SesaZleblobaa, romelic aucileblad unda
gamoiyeno Sens cxovrebaSi.
nu miscem nuravis uflebas SegaCeros, nu miscem Wo­
rebs uflebas gatkinos guli, kritikas dagasustos da
Surs dagabrmaos.

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Vako
 tyuili

amave Temaze saubari aravis gvindoda, amitomac yve­

lam gavawyviteT dagvesrulebina dialogi da yvela
sakuTar saqmes davbrunebuliyaviT.
jeikobma dagvtova, raTa bolo ritualis danaxva ar
surda. mec deizis mivuaxlovdi da misi Rimilis fonze,
sakuTar saqmes Sevudeqi.
sul cota xanSi, roca rituali dasrulda, jeikobi
damibrunda da orivem usityvod gadavinacvleT mis sa­
saxleSi da isev Tbili buxris win CamovjeqiT.
_ jeikob, mesmis, rom Zalian Zneli gadasatani iyo
SenTvis is, rac weRan moxda, magram Cveni dialogi unda
gagrZeldes.
_ ki, mesmis da mzad var gagrZelebisTvis, Temas Sen
airCev Tu me?
_ Sen, jeikob.
_ maSin tyuilebze minda gesaubro.
am Temaze, megobaro, minda gesaubro ara ise, rogorc
fsiqologi, aramed ise, rogorc motyuebuli Svili, me
ar minda arc imaze laparaki Tu ramdnejer ityueba
dReSi adamiani an ratom akeTebs amas, arc tyuilis
istorias minda Sevexo da arc mis warmomavlobas, me
ubralod visaubreb imaze, Tu ras grZnobs Svili, roca
kargavs mSoblis mimarT ndobas.
gaxsovs, geubnebodi,rac ufro maRlaa adamiani, miT
ufro mwarea meTqi dacema. tyuili iyo Cems ojaxSi am
Camovardnis mizezi, tyuili ara boroti, arc gamiznu­
li, aramed _ keTili.
_ keTili tyuilic Zalian mtkivneulia, jeikob.
_ ki marTali xar, Cems SemTxvevaSi es keTili tyui­
li, rogorc ar asrulebul dapirebebSi, iseve umizezo
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Vako
 daimedebebSi vlindeboda, rogorc ukve ici, mama CemT­
vis namdvili gmiri iyo, aqedan gamomdinare misi sityve­
bic mudam bevrs fasobda CemTvis, zustad iqamde, sanam
gaazrebul cxovrebaSi ar Sevidodi, iqamde sanam erTi
ausrulebeli piroba meores ar daedo da mere mesames,
meoTxes, mexuTes da ase iqamde sanam ndoba ar daikarga.
ndobis dakargva SemiZlia gavaigivo im momentTan,
TiTqos Sens winaSe didi, uzarmazari mTebi ingreva. es
xdeba nela, jer am mTebis mkvidri mosaxleoba TiTo-­
TiTo xes Wris, zamTarSi xom unda gaTben ara?
Semdeg amave adgilas didi kompaniebi modis da tye­
ebs bolomde Cexaven, Semdeg ukve SiSvel mTebSi dina­
mits deben, misgan saWiro wiaRiseulis amosaRebad da
ai afeTqebac: irgvliv, yvelgan am odesRac Zlieri da
lamazi mTis nafleTebi cviva, miwa zanzarebs, sul ra­
modenime wamSi rCeba mTis patara, erTmaneTisgan gan­
calkevebuli nawilebi, da romelsac ar unda moeWido,
mwvervalze veRarasdros axval.
ndoba megobaro iseTi ram aris, romlis dakargva
marTlac, rom Znelia, magram dabruneba SeuZlebeli,
jer kidev maSin, roca mamam Cemi ndoba dakarga me ara
mxolod misi dapirebebis aRar mjeroda, aramed ele­
mentaruli winadadebebisac, rac ar unda eTqva da, rac
ar unda gaekeTebina, arafris aRar mjeroda, saqme ra­
Sia ici?
megobars Tu aRar endobi Sordebi, magram mamas, imas
vinc ase Zalian giyvars, vinc Seni gmiria verafers uzam
da, rac ufro axlos gyavs, rac ufro akvirdebi da
xedav mis tyuilebs, miT ufro did tkivils Rebulob.
mesmis rom es nawyeni bavSvis sityvebia da es grZno­
bebi axla ar mawuxebs, Tumca, am magaliTiT darwmune­
buli var yvela adamiani dainaxavs Tavis Tavs, yvelas­

118

Vako
 Tan modis iseTi momenti, roca sakuTari warmodgenebi
sakuTar mSoblebze, gvtkens guls.
_ jeikob, da Tu bavSvs aseTi ram emarTeba, rogor
unda moiqces is?
_ sul Tavidan mis Secvlaze vfiqrobdi, ratomRac
mjeroda rom eg SesaZlebelia da yvela Cemi mcdeloba
cudad mTavrdeboda, Tavidan kritikiT vcdilobdi mi­
znis miRwevas `mama Sen ase da ase akeTeb, es ar ­SeiZleba~
`mama Sen, Sen, Sen...~ raTqmaunda aman ar gaamarTla.
nu elementarulad imitom, rom daJe konstruqciuli
kritika ver migviyvans miznamde. adamians erTveba Tav­
dacvis refleqsi da is iwyebs Tavis marTlebas, zustad
mase icavda Tavs mamaCemi kritikisgan, rac normalu­
ria, daJe metic, Cemi kritikis Semdeg mas Cemi sityvebi
guls tkenda da ramodenime dRis mere Cvens dialogSi
maxsenebda im naTqvams `ai Sen rom miTxari ase da ase
Svebio, mase ar vakeTeb~ anu mamaCemi imis magier rom
Cemi rCeva mieRo, Rebulobda mas, rogorc raRac nega­
tiurs da eg aris normaluri, normaluri imitom rom
me vakritikebdi da vimeoreb: kritika arasdros ar mig­
viyvans miznamde, yovelSemTxvevaSi iseTi, rogorsac me
viyenebdi _ pirovnuli kritika.
Semdeg ra Tqma unda isev imedgacrueba miCndeboda,
imedgacrueba sakuTar TavSi radgan mcdeloba ar ga­
momivida, Tumca suleli me, ar davnebebulvar da misi
Secvla, misive Sinagani cvlilebebis xarjze vcade.
zustad mag periodSi TviTgaumjobesebis aqtiur
gzaze videqi da mama xedavda, Tu ramxela miRwevebi
mqonda, zogjer ki CemTan erTadac usmenda Cems au­
diowignebs da marTlac gulwrfel interess iCenda
am sakiTxSi. mokled, aqedan gamomdinare, me gavumzade
mas elementaruli TviTgaumjobesebis programa, rome­

119
Vako
 lic moicavda elementarul moqmedebebs, rogorebicaa:
afirmaciebi, komfortis zonidan gamosvla da a.S.
_ mere rao?
gamovida rame?
_ 16 dRis ganmavlobaSi asrulebda am programas da
Semdeg daaneba Tavi, esec Cemi kidev erTi imedgacrue­
ba iyo, radgan isev mjeroda, TiTqos adamianis Secvla
SesaZlebelia.
mokled, roca arc profilaqtikuri saubrebi, arc
TviTguamjobesebis programa, kritika da rCevebma Se­
degi ar moitana, momiwia erT Zalian mniSvnelovan ra­
meze Segueba, mamaCemi mTeli cxovreba iyo is vinc aris
da misi Secvla, imisaTvis, rom Cemi warmodgenebi mis­
dami marTebuli aRmoCndes, erTi SeuZlebelia, da meo­
re arc aris saWiro.
es insaiTi CemTvis Zalian mtkivneuli da Zneli misa­
Rebi iyo, maSin maxsovs meSinoda, meTqi, Tu mamas ver
vexmarebi, Tu mamas ver vcvli, sxvas rogor davexmare­
bi?
es kiTxva ramodenime dRe Signidan mWamda da Cems
Sinagan motivacias ganadgurebasTan erTad, Cems Sesa­
ZleblobebSi eWvs maparebda, magram me SevZeli sakuTa­
ri Tavis xelSi ayvana, azrebis dalageba da negatiuri
azrovnebidan pozitiurze gadasvla. relaobis miRebis
Semdeg, am situaciaSi axali SesaZleblobebi davinaxe
da mivxvdi, rom Turme ar Rirs adamianis SecvlisTvis
vibrZode, Turme SeuZlebelia daexmaro imas visac eg
ar unda da amasTan erTad gamovitane kidev erTi Za­
lian kargi gakveTili.
_ da ra gakveTili gamoitane?
_ miReba, adamianis miReba iseTad rogoric aris, me
mivxvdi, rom mamaze gabrazebuli Cemi Sinagani bavSvia,

120
Vako
 is bavSvi, romelic samyaros vardisferi saTvaleebidan
xedavda da ara me.
me axlandeli, vxvdebodi da vgrZnobdi, rom mamas
ara adamianurad vuyvarvar, rom is Cems mimarT ise iq­
ceva rogoric aris. is ar TamaSobs raRac rolebs sxva
adamianebiviT, is arasdros ar mRalatobs da yvela
Cemi warmatebuli nabijiT amayobs. mas ar SeSurdeba,
da arc Sercxveba, mas ar SeeSindeba da arc SezizRdeba
misi Svili.
diax, megobaro, me mivxvdi mTavars, im sibrazes da
undoblobas, mxolod realobis miRebiT Tu daamar­
cxeb, es ar niSnavs imas, rom ndoba dabrundeba, ara
ndoba ar dabrundeba da arc Rirs am ndobis dabrune­
bisTvis raime energiis daxarjva. Sen ubralod iswavli
mSoblis iseT siyvaruls rogoric is aris realurad.
xolo Tu vinmeze daxmareba ginda an vinmes Secvla,
Secvale da daexmare jer sakuTar Tavs, da sxva, me­
rwmune gayveba Sens magalTs.
xolo tyuils, rac Seexeba megobaro, erTi imis Tqma
SemiZlia, rom ar aqvs mniSvneloba keTili tyuiliT Tu
borotiT gaasuleleb adamians, samyaroSi yvelafers
Tavisi fasi aqvs da amitomac saWiroa, rom yvela mSo­
beli gaufrTxildes Tavis Svils da yvela Svili gau­
frTxildes Tavis mSoblebs, elementarulad imiT, rom
ar moatyuon erTmaneTi.
erTi imis damateba SemiZlia, rom miuxedavad yvela­
frisa, miuxedavad isev Cems mier mamaCemis arasworad
aRqmisa da bavSvuri sibrazisa, is mainc Cems gulSia da
mainc imsaxurebs imaze 10-jer met siyvaruls, vidre me
SemiZlia, rom mivce!.
Cvens Soris isev patara pauza Camodga da orive isev
buxris als mivaSterdiT. jeikobma uecrad Semomxeda

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Vako
 da Cumad interesiT savse xmiT mkiTxa, Tu ra xdeboda
Cems mere, Tu ra xdeba sikvdilis mere.
_ jeikob SemiZlia giTxra, rom sicarielea, isic Se­
miZlia vTqva, rom jojoxeTi an samoTxea, SemiZlia rei­
karnacizec gelaparako, magram azri?
erTaderTi, riTic unda interesdebodes adamiani,
esaa axlandeli wamiTa da momentiT. mapatie, magram
aris xalxi vinc sakuTar cxovrebas raRac idealebs
uTmobs, isini uars amboben TavianT bunebriv moTxov­
nebze, ocnebebze, imis SiSiT, rom sadRac momavalSi,
CemTan Sexvedris mere daisjebian.
es jeikob, namdvili sisulelea!
jeikob axla ki me da Sen, kidev erT Zalian saintere­
so Temas mivadeqiT.

rwmena-religia

_ jeikob, romel religias miekuTvnebi?

_ hah... jer kidev pataraobaSi momnaTles, rogorc
qristiani, Tumca gaazrebul cxovrebaSi Sesvlisas
mivxvdi, rom religiuri dogmebi Cemgan Sors iyo. me
fizikurad ar SemeZlo brmad mewama, raRac zecieri
arsebobisa da miTumetes brmad memoqmeda im cxovre­
biseuli wesebiT, romelsac religia gvaswavlida. maga­
liTad, CemTvis miuRebeli iyo is, rom adamianma fufu­
nebaze uari unda Tqvas, miuRebeli iyo jojoxeTisa da
samoTxis arseboba, me fizikurad ver mivcemdi sakuTar
Tavs uflebas gavmxdariyavi erTi, romelime religiis
mimdevari, maSin roca arsebobs sxva mravali altenra­
tiuli warmodgena RmerTisa.

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Vako
 saerTod, xalxis umravlesoba fiqrobs stereotipu­
li azrovnebiT, ai magaliTad, bavSvobaSi gamiCnda ki­
Txva ,Tu romeli religia iyo marTebuli da visTvisac
ar unda mekiTxa, yvela ra Tmqa unda Tavis religiis
marTebulobaze mesaubreboda, rac me ar makmayofileb­
da mravali mizezis gamo.
mokled, me mqonda sakmaod bevri mizezi imisaTvis,
rom religiisadmi Sinagani protesti gamCenoda, rome­
lic dRiTidRe ufro da ufro izrdeboda.
megobaro, gesmis?
rogor unda davijero is, rom RmerTs yovlis Sem­
Zles, samyaros Semqmnels yvelafris dasawyiss, undo­
des da awyobdes Cemi siRaribeSi da tanjvaSi daxarju­
li cxovreba?!
saqme raSia ici, me mwams RmerTis da ara religiis. me
ar mwams im akrZalvebis, romelsac religia mTavazobs.
ubralod ver davijereb, gesmis?
ver davijereb imas, rom RmerTma Seqmna adamiani,
iseTi rogoric aris, Tavisi minusebiTa da pliusebiT
da Semdeg daiwyo imaze fiqri, Tu rogor dasajos es
susti arseba.
es yvelaferi, es warmodgena masze, isev adamianis
mofiqrebuli, mogonili da Cveni fantaziidan wamosu­
li ram aris.
arc is gagikvirdeba, albaT, Tu getyvi, rom religias
ZiriTadad xalxis samarTavad iyeneben da ara RmerT­
Tan misaaxloveblad. Tumca amaze vrclad saubari arc
minda, imedia mixvdi ukve, rom me yvelafers, rac TavSi
momdis, zemodan, zereled vixsenieb da arc vcdilob
sakuTari azris vinmeze daxvevas da aqedan gamomdinare
ar vTvli saWirod erTi romelime Temis, Tavidan bo­
lomde axsna ganmartebas.

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Vako
 anu, Tu adamians TavSi tvini aqvs, is Cems auxsne­
ladac mixvdeba im Cems sityvebs xalxis marTvasTan
dakavSirebiT. xolo imas visac tvinis magier qva udevs
TavSi, rac ar unda obieqturi argumentebi movuyvano,
mainc ver Sevucvli azrs da gulwrfelad getyvi, arc
var vinmes azris SecvliT dainteresebuli.
_ jeikob, rogorad warmogidgenia RmerTi?
_ kargi kiTxvaa, megobaro, da Sen warmoidgine pasuxi
ar maqvs.
_ aba ratom ggonia, rom is arsebobs?
_ futkari fiqrobs, rom is cxovrobs sakuTari Tavis-
Tvis, Tavisi cxovrebiT, Tumca mxolod mefutkrem icis,
rom realurad futkari ar cxovrobs TavisTvis da is
ubralod agrovebs Tafls amave mefutkrisaTvis, magram
futkari amas verasodes ver mixvdeba, elementarulad
imis gamo, rom mefutkre, misi azrovnebis masStabebs sc-
deba!
megobaro, me, iseve, rogorc futkars ar maqvs da ar
meqneba iseTi azrovnebis unari, romelic RmerTis re­
alur saxes damanaxebs.
roca vinme ambobs, rom icis RmerTis realuri saxe,
an masTan misasvleli gza, me mxolod amis Tqma Semi­
Zlia aseTi adamianisTvis:
`Sen ubralod is ici,ris SesaZleblobasac sakuTari
warmosaxvis unari gaZlevs da merwmune es RmerTis re­
aluri saxe arasdros iqneba.~

124
Vako
 gacemis kanoni

jeikobma saubari daasrula, patara pauza aiRo da

vkiTxe apirebda Tu ara is kidev ramis damatebas, Tu
ara SevTavaze axal Temaze gadavsuliyaviT, Tumca pa­
suxad iyo erTazrovani _ ki!
_ megobaro, mapatie, magram ubralod ver moviTmen,
rom Cemi da `RmerTis~ urTierTSexebaze ar gelapa­
rako, oRond gTxov gaiTvaliswino erTi ram, `Rmer­
Tis~ xsenebisas me ar vgulisxmob masze religiur
warmodgenebs, am SemTxvevaSi CemTvis sityva `RmerTi~
ubralod bunebis kanonebis CemTvis komfortuli da­
saxeleba iqneba.
_ kargi, jeikob, gasagebia, ra bunebis kanonebze gin­
da saubari?
_ es iqneba gacemisa da moTxovnis kanonebi, albaT
gaxsovs finansuri gegmis Sedgenisas Semosavlis ­10%-is
gacemaze, rom vsaubrobdiT, eg zustad am gacemis ka­
nonTan aris dakavSirebuli.
_ SegiZlia ufro gasagebad amixsna, jeikob? jer-je­
robiT verafers vxvdebi.
_ megobaro, darwmunebuli var gsmenia eseTi andaza
`rasaca gascem Senia, rac ara dakargulia~.
_ ki ra Tqma unda!
_ rogor ggonia, am sityvebis azrs bevri adamiani
xvdeba?
_ albaT ara.
_ zustad, xalxma mxolod is icis, rom raRac unda
gascen, magram, rogor, risTvis an rato ar ician, zus­
tad amitomac arsebos 10%-is gacemis wesi da zustad am
wesis magaliTze minda agixsna gacemis kanonis muSaoba
_ kargi jeikob gismen.
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Vako
 _ megobaro, jer daviwyoT imiT, rom marTlac, Tu
rames gascem, is aucileblad dagibrundeba, es bunebis
kanonia, Tu gascem sikeTes, sikeTe gibrundeba, Tu gas­
cem borotebas, vTqvaT zians ayeneb sxvas, raRac drois
ganmavlobaSi Senc aucileblad ubedureba gadagxdeba
Tavs, zogjer megobaro am efeqts bumerangsac eZaxian.
ai, magaliTad, warmoidgine, rom viRac biWi yvelasTan
mudmivad RimiliT saubrobs, xolo meore, misi mego­
bari Cveulebrivi qvis saxiT Tu esaubreba xalxs. ra
Sedegs miiReben isini?
_ momRimars sul tkbilad da sixaruliT Sexvdeba
xalxi da meores sul uemociod, SeiZleba Sinagani ga­
RizianebiTac ki Sexvdnen, magram es xom mxolod xalxis
urTierTobaa, jeikob? ra SuaSia aq gacemis kanoni?
_ TavSia, megobaro, pirvelma gasca Rmili-pozitivi
da sanacvlod miiRo xalxis dadebiTi damokidebuleba,
meorem ki araferi ar gasca, amjobina Rimili sakuTar
TavSi daetovebina da arc araferi ar miiRo.
zustad aseTi analogebi gvxvdeba mTeli Cveni cxo­
vrebis ganmavlobaSi, iqneba es erTmaneTSorisi ur­
TierTobebi, Tu cxovrebis sxva sferoebi. es bunebis
kanonia megobaro `rasac gascem, imas miiReb~
me imis Tqma minda, rom gacemis kanoni muSaobs abso­
liturad yvela sferoSi da raTqmaunda finansurSic
ki, ai, zustad aqedan gamomdinare arsebobs 10%-is ga­
cemis wesi.
am wess TiTqmis yvela warmatebuli adamiani iyenebs,
yvela maTganma icis: imisTvis, rom fuli gqondes, unda
iswavlo fulis gacema da aq ar aqvs mniSvneloba ramde­
nad patara an did Tanxas gascem.
Tu adamians TveSi 100$-iT giwevs cxovreba, me­
rwmune 90$-ac SeZleb. Sen ubralod gascem 10$-s,

126
Vako
 daexmarebi sxvas da merwmune, eg Tanxa Sen aucile­
blad dagibrundeba ufro didi Tanxis, an raime sxva
mniSvnelovani gamocdilebisa Tu axali SesaZleblo­
bebis saxiT.
megobaro, 10%-is gacemis saxiT Sen aCveneb samyaros
`RmerTs~ imas, rom madlobeli xar imisTvis, rac gaq­
vs da am madlierebis sanacvlod `RmerTi~ gajildo­
vebs damatebiTi bonusebiT. madlierebaze Cven kidev
movaswrebT saubars, ubralod, manamde unda icode is,
rom madlierebis gamoCena erT-erTi yvelaze Zlieri
Tvisebaa adamianSi, romelic aucilebelia yvelasaTvis,
vinc sunTqavs da azrovnebs.
_ jeikob, ras ver mivxvdi, ici?
_ ras?
_ rogor Tu `aCveneb samyaros `RmerTs~ imas, rom ma­
dlieri xar imisTvis, rac gaqvs~? es sityvebi cota ar
iyos, raRaciT maxsenebs ai amaT `imyofine is rac gaqvs
da nu moiTxov mets~.
_ gasagebia da sakmaod kargi SeniSvnaa, Tumca ma­
dlierebis gamoCena da dakmayofileba imiT rac gaqvs,
gansxvavdeba erTmaneTisgan. me araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar
vambob, rom vinmem unda imyofinos is, rac aqvs da meti
ar unda moiTxovos.
piriqiT me mTeli cxovreba imis momxre viyavi, rom
adamianis bunebaa sul meti da meti undodes da ukeTe­
sisken iswrafebodes.
_ axla yvelaferi gasagebia, jeikob, da ra Secdomebs
uSvebs xolme xalxi, roca am kanons exeba saqme, an Sen
ra Secdomebs uSvebdi?
_ magaliTad, bevri ambobs, rom isedac Zalian pata­
ra SesaZlebloba aqvs da fizikurad ar SeuZlia sxvaze
daxmareba (10%-is gacema).

127

Vako
 isini amboben, TiTqos daiwyeben gacemas mxolod ma­
Sin, roca maTi finasnuri situacia gaumjobesdeba, ma­
gram am xalxis cxovrebaSi ara da ar modis es ukeTesi
finansuri mdgomareoba da isini ubralod arasdros ar
midian am udidesi Zalis gamoyenebamde.
_ da rogor unda moiqces xalxi?
_ elementarulad megobaro, isedac Tu giWirs, ise­
dac, Tu cud dReSi xar, cotac gaiWirve da is 10%
gauSvi keTil saqmeSi da merwmune, asmagad dagibrun­
deba.
_ kargi, es gasagebia, kidev ra Secdomebs uSveben
xolme?
_ kidev erTi gavrcelebuli Secdomaa: gaakeTo sike­
Te, dajde skamze da elodo, Tu rodis dagasaCuqrebs
samyaro, anu rodis dagibrunebs sikeTes `RmerTi~. es
xom yvelaze absurduli saqcielia ,rac ki SeiZleba ga­
akeTo am dros. magram mainc bevri uSvebs am Secdomas.
Tu adamiani sikeTes Cadixar, es sikeTe unda iyos guli­
dan gamosuli da uangaro, es unda iyos mTeli guliT
gakeTebuli saqme da ara barteri (gacvla) samyarosTan
an `RmerTTan~
nu aq elementarulia, gaakeTe sikeTe? daexmare
gaWirvebuls? datkbi am momentiT da ganagrZe cxovre­
ba, danarCeni yvelaferi TavisiT moxdeba.
_ jeikob da Sen ra Secdoma dagiSvia?
_ uih, me pirvelive gacemis mcdelobaze, Zalian ga­
vrcelebuli Secdoma davuSvi.
yvelaferi daiwyo iqidan, rom mindoda Cemi 10%-iT
raRac kreatiuli gamekeTebina. es iyo zustad 10$, ro­
melic raTmqaunda aravis ar auwyobda cxovrebas da
zustad amitom, mindoda vinmesTvis kargi dadebiTi
emociebi mainc meCuqebina da momafiqrda aseTi ram: me

128
Vako
 unda Camedo es fuli konvertSi damewera raime tkbili
werili, saukeTeso survilebiT da damedo quCaSi ise,
rom viRacas misi povna SeZleboda.
idea Sedgeboda imaSi, rom napovni fulisgan bevrad
ufro meti emociaa vidre pirdapir xelSi gadacemisas,
mec am gegmis mixedviT moviqeci, yvelaferi gavamzade,
gavedi gareT raime kargi adgilis saZebnad da gzaSi,
Cemive ubanSi Semxvda moxuci mamakaci, romelic sul iq
ijda xolme, yvavilebs yidda da Zalian Zveli dangreu­
li manqaniT dadioda. ramodenimejer CemTan kontaqtSi
Semosvlac ucdia da yovelTvis kargi gamarjobiT vx­
vdebodiT xolme erTmaneTs, mec uceb vifiqre, rom ai,
aq aris kaci, visac daxmareba sWirdeba da ajobebs mas
mivce es koverti. mokled, RimiliT da sixaruliT ga­
daveci mas saCuqari da ganvagrZe gza, me da es babu, me­
gobaro, ukve Semdeg dRes SevxvdiT erTmaneTs da Cveni
Sexvedrisas misgan `madloba~ ar damklebia, Zalian da­
mexmareo meubneboda, saWmeli da sigareti viyidieo da
Tan damiyola `roca mogindeba kide momecio~.
cota ar iyos ar mesiamovna es misi naTqvami, magram
ar SevimCnie, vifiqre moxucia cudi gagebiT ar metyoda
Tqo, magram Semdeg Sexvedraze ukve pirdapir Soridan
maniSna xelis JestiT `fuli momecio~ (anu TiTebiT ma­
niSna fulze). uceb megona momeCvena, axlos mivedi da
SevekiTxe meTqi ra miTxari da fuli momecio siciliT
meubneba, me ra Tmqa unda uari vuTxari da yvela Semdeg
Sexvedraze fulis Txovnis meti arafers ar vRebulob­
di iqamde, sanam erTxelac saerTod gamarjobis Rirsic
aRar gavxvdi, sityvis pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT eg kaci
saxeebs mikeravda da mTeli arsebiT magrZnobinebda, rom
Cemi naxva ar siamovnebda da ici ra viswavle aqedan?
_ ra aba?

129
Vako
 _ arasodes ar daexmaro imas, visze daxmarebac ar
ginda!
gacemis kanoni muSaobs mxolod maSin, roca guliT
akeTeb zustad imas, rac marTla ginda.
ginda usaxlkaros daexmaro?
midi!
ginda qvelmoqmedebaSi Cado?
midi!
ginda eklesias Seswiro?
midi!
oRond, icode, arasdros ar daexmaro imas visze
daxmarebac gulwrfelad ar ginda, radgan samyaro
egreve, merwmune egreve dagsjis am saqcielisTvis.
principSi megobaro es aris is mizeruli informa­
cia, rac unda icodes yvelam gacemis kanonTan dakavSi­
rebiT. modi axla moTxovnis kanonzec visaubroT.

moTxovnis kanoni

_ es Tema isedac vaxsene Cveni dialogis periodSi,

rogorc gaxsovs giTxari: rasac moiTxzos adamiani,
imas Rebulobs.
axla ki cota paranormalurs minda Sevexo, imas ra­
sac savaraudod aravin ar daijerebs, magram me valde­
buli var gagimxilo is Tu, rogor viyeneb piradad me
moTxovnis kanons.
winaswar gafrTxileb!
ar vici, ramdenad moqmedebs es xerxi sxvasTan, an
saerTod vinmes Tu aqvs iseTive gamocdileba, rogoric

130
Vako
 me. arc is vici ramdenad koreqtulia Cemi warmodgena
am TemasTan dakavSirebiT. me ubralod giyvebi Cems pi­
rad gamocdilebas da Cems dakvirvebebs.
_ kargi, jeikob, gasagebia. vinmesTvis, Tu miuRebeli
iqna Seni sityvebi ubralod ar unda miiRos gulTan
axlos da eg aris.
_ yvelaferi daiwyo imiT, rom me daviwye sxvadasxva
miniSnebebis Zebna, anu yvelaferSi vcdilobdi raRac
mesijis danaxvas, raRac azris gamotanas, romelsac sa­
bolood Cems pirovnul ganviTarebaSi gamoviyenebdi.
mokled, erTi Tve ar iyo gasuli Cemi dakvirvebebidan,
rom me marTlac daviwye sxvadasxva miniSnebebis aRmo­
Cena, magaliTad iuTubze Sesvlisas mTavar gverdze mx­
vdeboda videoebi, romelTa SigTavsic absoliturad
yvela Cems imdroindel kiTxvebs pasuxobda.
magaliTad, Tu dRes damainteresebda ramdeni xani
sWirdeba mzis Suqis mosvlas dedamiwamde, xval iuTu­
bis mTavar gverdze pirvelive videos adgilas stiven
xokingis `drois mokle istoria~ audiowigni mxvdeboda,
romlis mosmenidanac Cem kiTxvaze pasuxs vRebulobdi.
_ da ramdeni xani Wirdeba mzis Suqis dedamiwamde
mosvlas?
_ 8 wuTi.
Semdeg, megobaro, TiTqmis sul vxvdebodi raRac
gansakuTrebul warwerebs, romlebic zustad me mexe­
boda, es iyo an motivaciuri citatebi, romlebic Cems
kiTxvebs pasuxs scemda, an calkeuli xalxis onlain
postebi, romlebic ratomRac isev da isev Cems yvela
kiTxvas pasuxobda.
(FACEBOOK, YOUTUBE, INSTAGRAM, interesis algo­
riTmebi aq arafer SuaSia, anu avtorma icis, rom am
socialur qselebs aqvs algoriTmebi, romlebic ada­

131
Vako
 mians avtomaturad urCevs misTvis saintereso statie­
bs, videoebs, Tu postebs. aq saubari sul sxva ramezea.
anu imaze, Tu ramdenad konkretul pasuxs Rebulobda
jeikobi, im droindel konkretul kiTxvaze.)
mokled, megobaro, yvelaferze riTic maSin vinte­
resdebodi,pasuxs vRebulobdi da erTaderTi rac me
mevaleboda,es iyo amden informaciaSi ar davkargu­
liyavi.
modi erT istorias mogiyvebi, rac piradad me ga­
damxda Tavs.
erTxel sirbilisas, sakuTar azrebSi qeqvisas, mxo­
lod erTi wamiT momafiqrda _ `ra kargi iqneboda marke­
tingul Tematikaze treningebze daswreba rom SevZlo,
aSkarad bevrad mets viswavlidi vidre axla SemiZlia~.
eg iyo da es azri ubralod gadamaviwyda da meored
aRarc ki momsvlia, nu, ubralod erTxel gavifiqre da
vso.
is dRe Cveulebrivad gavatare, araferi gansakuTre­
buli ar momxdara, magram Semdeg diliT axal gaRvi­
Zebulze yvelaze popularul socialur qselSi FACE-
BOOK-Si Semxvda reklamebi marketingul treningebTan
dakavSirebiT, yvelaze metad am faqtSi damafiqra iman,
rom aqamde arasdros ar Semxvderia sakuTar WALL-ze
sxvadasxva treningebi, miTumetes marketingis Tema­
tikasTan dakavSirebuli.
Tavivan vifiqre, meTqi algoriTma gamoTvala is, rom
marketingiT var dainteresebuli da zustad amitom
SemomTavaza es reklamac, Tumca am pesimistur azrze
ar gavCerdi, miTumetes maSin, roca miniSnebebs maqsi­
maluri yuradRebiT vakvirdebodi. daJe imazec vifi­
qre, rom, Tu es miniSnebaa, Tuki es faqti, raRac ufro
maRalia vidre me SemiZlia, rom masze pasuxs mivxvde,

132
Vako
 modi da maSin vecdebi mainc gamoviyeno es situacia.
anu, Tu ki me raRacas vfiqrob da es misruldeba,
maSin ratomac ar vifiqro imaze, rac minda?
Semdegi Cemi nabiji aseTi iyo: me Cavifiqre _ `ra kar­
gi iqneboda fsiqologTan treningze rom aRmovCnde~
da amis gaazrebis Semdeg isev Cveulebrivad Sevudeqi
Cems saqmes.
ai, zustad maxsovs, amis Cafiqrebidan 4 dReSi isev
da isev FACEBOOK-ze
Semxvda erT-erTi rusi fsiqologis `vadim kurni­
kis~-is reklama, romelSic ewera rom Semdegi 7 dRis
ganmavlobaSi, vadimi Caatarebs ufaso video treninge­
bs. mec ra Tqma unda gamoviyene es Sansi da ukve Sem­
deg dRes, pirdapir saxlidan, ufasod vRebulobdi mo­
nawileobas yvelaze keTili fsiqologis treningebSi.
_ jeikob es SeiZleba ubralod damTxvevac yofi­
liyo.
_ ki, megobaro, am situaciis axsna bevrnairad Sei­
Zleba da amitomac geubnebi, rom ar vdeb Tavs Cemi va­
riantis marTebulobaze. me ubralod imas vyvebi, Tu
rogor warmomidgenia es situacia da miiRebs Tu ara
vinme am informacias WeSmaritebad, sxva adamianis sa­
qmea.
_ kargi, jeikob, aRar SegiSli saubarSi xels, gana­
grZe.
_ kidev erTi dakvirveba miniSnebebTan dakavSirebiT,
Cemi TviTgaumjobesebis gzis dasawyisSi moxda, ai roca
pirveli biznesi daviwye megobrebTan erTad.
erT dRes, jer kidev saqmis dawyebamde youtube-Si
Semxvda 12 wuTiani samotivacio video (aseTi arasdros
ar mqonda araferi nanaxi) am videos erqva `is rac Sen
gWirdeba~ nu, vifiqre meTqi araferi gansakuTrebuli

133
Vako
 ar iqneba, interneti savsea aseTi xmamaRali dasaxele­
bebiT da gamoTqmebiT, magram rac videos SigniT iyo,
rac am videoSi vnaxe dRes CemTvis winaswarmetyvelobad
aris qceuli, romelsac samwuxarod, maSin ver mivxvdi.
videoSi naTqvami iyo yvelaferi is, razec maSin vdar­
dobdi, marto im 12 wuTSi miviRe pasuxebi Cems Sinagan
SiSebze (intuiciur arabunebriv SfoTvaze, biznesze da
xalxis urTierTobebze.)
magaliTad, videoSi iyo naTqvami _ `Sen daetakebi
Sens yvelaze Rrma SiSebs~ `SeiZleba qveynidanac waxvi­
de, magram icode, yvelafris pasuxi SenSia~ `rogoric
ar unda getkinos guli ibrZole~.
ki, ki, ki, ki, mesmis, standartuli frazebia megoba­
ro, romelic yvelgan da yvelas SeiZleba Sexvdes, ma­
gram es frazebi iyo zustad is, rac me maSin mWirdbeo­
da, rac gulSi Camijda da dRemde damamaxsovrda.
_ mere asrulda?
_ ki ra Tmqa unda, yvelaze did SiSebsac davetake,
ucxoeTSic wavedi da TviTguamjobesebis gzazec dav­
deqi, ramac mTlianad Secvala Cemi cxovreba.
dRes ki ukve xedav, rom warmatebuli da bednieri
adamiani var.
modi, axla pirdapir Semdeg istoriazec gadavideT.
Semdegi Cemi istoria, romelic moTxovnis kanonTa­
naa dakavSirebuli, adamian `msxverpls~ exeba.
sanam am istoriis moyolas daviwyeb unda giTxra,
rom msxverpls me veZaxi xalxs, visac sakuTari Tavi
ecodeba, vinc dRe da Rames sakuTari bedis wyevlaSi
atarebs da sul imas ganicdis Tu ra Zneli cxovreba
aqvs.
am istoriis gasagebad, msxverplze es patara in­
formaciac geyofa, rac weRan giTxari, xolo TviTon

134

Vako
 msxverplisa da gamarjvebulebis Tematikaze, kidev au­
cileblad visaubrebT.
istoria: megobaro, me vicnobdi erT mandilosans,
romelsac sakmaod Zneli cxovrebis gamovla mouwia, is
TiTqmis mTeli misi cxovreba loginad Cawolil dedas
uvlida da sul finansur problemebs ganicdida. iS­
viaTad rame kargi, rom momxdariyo mis cxovrebaSi da
aqedan gamomdinare mas msxverplis azrovneba Camouya­
libda.
TiTqmis yvela misi saqcieli gvanaxebda da gvagrZ­
nobinebda erTs _ `me xom aseTi Zneli cxovreba maqvs,
SemicodeT!~ `me xom amdeni cudi ram gamoviare, Se-mi-­
codeT!~
hoda, erTxelac, ezoSi gasulma vnaxe, rom mas Tva­
lebi acremlebuli hqonda da tvinSi Camijda erTi
azri: es adamiani sakuTar Tavs msxverplad aRiqvams da
Semdegi ori dRis ganmavlobaSi mxolod imas vaanali­
zebdi, Tu rogor cxovrobs `msxverpli~ adamiani, Tu
rogor azrovnebs is, mokled Cems umetesoba fiqrebs
`msxverplze~ vxarjavdi.
da ai, amis gaanalizebis mesame dRes moxda, raRac
gansakuTrebuli: me damikavSirda, ufroswored face-
book-ze momwera Cemi yofili Seyvarebulis megobarma
gogonam (daqalma), romelsac arasdros ar mouweria.
mokled, Cveni erTmaneTze misalmeba da erTmaneTis
mokiTxva, egreve mis wuwunSi gadavida, gana rames mTxo­
vda an rCeva undoda, ubralod damiwyo moyola, rom ase
da ase finansurad uWirs, Svili fasian baRSi ver Seyavs
da kidev sxva mravali adamianuri problema mixsena.
gaiTvaliswine isic, rom am adamianTan arc Tu ise
axlo megobroba mqonda, yovel SemTxvevaSi, sul ra­
Rac erTxel myavda cxovrebaSi nanaxi da es Cveni Catic
erT-­erTi pirvelTagani iyo.

135
Vako
 mokled, Cveni saubari Cveulebrivad, adamianurad
dasrulda da ar gasula 10 wuTi Catis daxurvidan, ise
mwers Cemi bavSvobis megobari, romelsac wlebia ar mo­
vukiTxivar da miwyebs laparaks Tavis gaSorebul col­
ze da mis axal Seyvarebulze, esec Cemgan arafers ar
iTxovs da ubralod miziarebs Tavis tkivils da mesau­
breba Tavis problemebze. xsnis, Tu ra Znelad gadaaqvs
cxovreba, mec ra Tqma unda tkbili sityvebiT vamxneveb
da Sen warmoidgine zustad im wams, roca Cems megobars
vamxnevebdi, mwers sruliad ucxo adamiani, nu, gogo
Cemi ganocbis mizniT.
garegnobiT sakmaod kargi iyo, ris gamoc Tavidanve
davinteresdi masTan urTierTobiT da maleve masTan
Cataobac daviwye, cota xanSi, ar vici ratom miyveboda
amas, magram gairkva, rom am gogonas deda kanis kiboTi
aris daavadebuli, Semdeg gavige, rom maT aravin ar
yavdaT gverdiT da Zalian uWirT cxovreba. es gogoc
arafers ar iTxovda Cemgan, ubralod guls miSlida da
Tavis ambebs miyveboda.
axla miTxari, megobaro, rame saerTos xedav am sams
Soris?
_ samive maTgani msxverplia, jeikob.
_ zustad, megobaro. erT dRes erTmaneTisgan da­
moukideblad 3 msxverpli damikavSirda, ors aqedan
vicnobdi, magram didi xania ar SevxmianebivarT erTma­
neTs, xolo mesames saerTod ar vicnobdi. mokled, me­
gobaro, me es saubari iqamde mimyavs, rom Cemma `msxver­
plze~ fiqrebma gamoiwvia TviTon es situacia. axla
gTxov sworad gamige!
me mjera imis, rom Tuki `RmerTi~ arsebobs, is aris
CvenTvis gaugebar formatSi, magram miuxedavad am gau­

136

Vako
 gebrobisa, misgan daxmarebis miReba SesaZlebelia Tun­
dac am moTxovnis kanonis gamoyenebiT.
me da jeikobs Soris isev siCume Camodga, ramodenime
wuTis ganmavlobaSi jeikobi azrebs alagebTa, raTa ad­
vilad aexsna misi saTqmeli, me kide Cems sias Sevyureb­
di Cveni TemisaTvis Sesabamisi adamianis sapovnelad.
_ megobaro, `RmerTs~ ar esmis Cveni Txovna-vedreba,
Cemi dakvirvebebidan gamomdinare `RmerTi~ yvelafers
pirdapiri gagebiT gebulobs da asrulebs.
anu Cveni mimarTvebi rogorebicaa: `RmerTo gTxov
damexmare, fuli maSovnine~ ar sruldeba xolme ise,
rogoradac Cven amas vgulisxmobT, ai, magaliTad, Tu
CavifiqrebT `RmerTo gTxov fuli maSovnine~ is gvpa­
suxobs `kargi fuli ginda? aha Sen 1$~.
an kidev _ `neta am TveSi saWmlis saSualeba mqondes
da meti araferi minda~. megobaro, xalxi am sityvebs
wlidan wlamde imeorebs xolme da merwmune isini zus­
tad imas Rebuloben, rasac iTxoven.
ki, marTalia, eseTi xalxi mTeli cxovreba proble­
mebSi da gasaWirSi cxovrobs xolme, is saWmelic sas­
tiki tkiviliT moepovebaT magram faqti saxezea, isini
SimSilisgan ar ixocebian.
ai, modi, miTxari, dRes xom Zalian bevri adamiani
cxovrobs sastiki siRaribis zRvarze? bevri maTgani
ixoceba SimSilisgan?
_ ara.
_ marTali xar, egeTi xalxi fiqrobs imaze, rom saW­
meli iSovon da raRac gziT mainc Souloben, mokled,
rasac iTxoven imas Rebuloben.
_ da aris rame swori forma, imisa Tu rogor unda
moiTxovo `RmerTisgan~ raRac?
_ ki miniSnebebiT.

137

Vako
 _ miniSnebebiT?
_ zustad, Tu `RmerTi~ gvelaparakeba miniSnebebiT,
ra moxdeba Cvenc, rom ise vesaubroT?
ai, magaliTad: miniSneba iqneba Tu Cven raRacas mo­
viTxovT ise TiTqos da eg raRac isedac gvaqvs da Tan
maqsimalurad davakonkretebT Cvens moTxovnas.
anu: ara `me bevri fuli maqvs~ aramed `me 100000$
maqvs~
ara `RmerTo damexmare gamdidrebaSi~ aramed `me
mdidari var~
mokled, Cvens moTxovnebSi unda viyoT maqsimalu­
rad konkretulebi, masStaburebi da Tamabebi!
konkretika saWiroa imitom, rom Cveni moTxovna swo­
rad iyos gagebuli, masStaburoba ki imitom, rom Cvens
irgvliv rac aris, zogadad yvelaferi didi masStabi­
saa (didia, bevria da a.S) (anu bevri planetaa, usazRvro
samyaroa, bevri qvaa, qviSaa da a.S)
da Tamamebi imis gamo unda viyoT, rom SevZloT imis
moTxovna, rac marTla gvinda da rasac Cveni azriT
vimsaxurebT!
_ da moTxovnis Sesruleba rogor xdeba? darwmune­
buli var ase ubralod moiTxovo miliardi da miiRo
ar moxdeba.
_ SesaZleblobebiT megobaro, ra Tqma unda haeridan
ar gamoCndeba es moTxovnili miliardebi, magram Sen
gamogiCndeba konkretuli SesaZlebloba, Sansi (Tan ara
erTi) romelic migiyvans Sens miznamde, anu imasTan rac
moiTxove.
_ da rogor unda gamoiyenos adamianma SesaZleblo­
bebi?

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Vako
 _ eg ukve sul sxva Temaa megobaro da Tu mogindeba
amazec visaubroT SemdegSi.
_ ki minda Zalian saintereso iqneba darwmunebuli
var, axla ki modi SevajamoT TviTon es religiis-mo­
Txovna-gacemis Tematika da Semdegze gadavideT.
_ kargi, rogorc ukve giTxari megobaro me religiu­
ri adamiani ar var, Tumca `RmerTis~ arsebobis mwams da
sakmaod gansxavebuli mosazrebis var mis mimarT, vidre
xalxis umravlesoba. me ra Tmqa unda ar vambob imas,
rom marTali var, radgan TviTon ar var darwmunebu­
li sakuTar warmodgenebSi misdami, radgan me megobaro
sakmaod gansxvavebuli periodebi mqonda cxovrebaSi,
iyo dro roca religiuri viyavi, iyo dro roca aTeis­
tic gavxvdi, Semdeg sxva religiebsac miveyrdeni da
didi xnis Zebnis Semdeg `RmerTis~ Cemebur axsnamde mo­
vedi, axla am wams, am etapze var, da Semdeg ra iqneba
ver getyvi.
mets verafers davamateb, megobaro.
_ Sen Tu ver daamateb, me davamateb, jeikob, vityvi
imas, rom `RmerTisaTvis~ sul erTia, Tu rogorad aR­
viqvamT Cven mas, imas ar ainteresebs virwmunebT Cven
romelime religias Tu saerTodac energiis saxiT war­
movidgenT mis arsebobas, ai, erTaderTi rac Cven da ma­
gas gvaerTianebs es aris is bunebis kanonebi, romlebic
Cvengan damoukideblad arsebobs, kanonebi, romlebic
Sen ukve axsene!

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Vako
 msxverpli-gamarjvebuli

Cemi sityvebis Semdeg, Cven patara umniSvnelo wi­

nadadebebi gavcvaleT erTmaneTs Soris da gadavwy­
viteT Cems saqmes davbrunebodiT, me ukve arCeuli
myavda Semdegi adamiani. es iyo xanSi Sesuli moxuci
skolis maswavalebeli, me da jeikobma mis saxlSi gada­
vinacvleT da binaSi myofi sicarielisa da martoobis
momswreni gavxvdiT. TviTon kedlebi ambobda, rom am
binas ukve wlebia stumrebi ar unaxavs, SemosasvlelSi
ori wyvili qalis fexsacmeli elaga, romlebic, sava­
raudod, asakiT am Cvens axal megobars utoldeboda.
daglejili, dasvrili warmodgenac ar maqvs maTSi fexi
rogor unda Cado.
SemosasvlelSi meti aRaraferi iyo, mTeli derefa­
ni carieli kedlebisgan Sedgeboda, arc karadebi, arc
naTurebi, bolos da bolos karebic ki ar iyo arc erT
oTaxSi.
_ aq rogor cxovroben?
_ male gavigebT, jeikob, aba gamomyevi.
Cven Semosasvlel derefans gavcdiT da saZinebel
oTaxSi SevediT. SigniT erTi logini dagvxvda, gaxeu­
li Zveli TeTreuliT da zed mjdomi moxuci, SavebSi
Cacmuli qalbatoniT, romelsac xelSi ori Zveli su­
raTi eWira.
erTze Zalian patara bavSvi iyo asaxuli, albaT 4-5
wlis Tu iqneboda, meoreze ki 50-55 wlis mamakaci, al­
baT am qalis qmar-Svili iqnebodnen.
am qalis acremlebuli Tvalebi ki imdenad gulwr­
felad uyurebda am suraTebs, rom Cemi ukve sauku­
neebis manZilze gakaJuli gulic ki Sewuxda, jeikobs
ki saerTod guls unadgurebda, is fizikurad ver

140
Vako
 m­ alavda ­Tavis grZnobebs da lamisaa TviTon wamosvlo­
da cremlebi, imdenad Seecoda eg qalbatoni.
qalbatonma, jer jeikobs, mere me Semomxeda da Cax­
leCili sawyali xmiT miTxra:
_ moxvedi? didi xania gelodebi, ukve wlebia gex­
vewebi da, rogorc iqna moxvedi.
_ da ratom melodebodi?
man orive suraTi saxiT Cemsken moabruna da miTxra:
_ ai amaT gamo, maTTan minda wasvla, aRar minda aq
gaCereba, aRar minda es yoveldRiuri boRmis gadatana,
romelic sul Tan damsdevs, aRar minda arc Cemi moswa­
vleebis danaxva, romlebSic Cems Svils vxedav, aRar Se­
miZlia gesmis?
damRala yoveldRiurma brZolam gadarCenisTvis da
am cxovelurma arsebobam, ubralod wamiyvane da damas­
vene!
_ kargi wagiyvan, oRond jer Cvens Soris dialogi
unda gaimarTos, es iqneba Seni bolo dialogi, amito­
mac gTxov gadamiSalo guli da momiyve yvelaferi is,
rac SenTvis mniSvnelovania.
qalbatoni damTanxmda da maleve saubars Seudga, Ta­
visi ambis moyola man daiwyo imiT, Tu rogor dakarga
erTaderTi Svili, Semdeg moyva, Tu rogor akiTxavda
mas sasaflaoze wlebis ganmavlobaSi, rogor ganicdida
igive tkivils, rac dakargvisas SeigrZno dRidan dRem­
de.
Semdeg moyva isic, rom meuRle kibom waarTva da
zustad am meore dartymis Semdeg, am qalbatonma far-­
xmali dauSva da miiRo cxovrebiseuli, misTvis albaT
yvelaze mniSvnelovani gadawyvetileba.
is aRar apirebda brZolas!

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Vako
 am istoriebs emateboda misi acremlebuli Tvalebi
da sawyali xma, ramac jeikobs namdvili kacuri cremle­
bis Rvra aiZula.
mokled, oTaxSi iseTi aura iyo datrialebuli, ro­
gorsac holivudis yvelaze Zlier melodramebSic ver
naxavT.
qalbatoni yvela Cems kiTxvas, imasTan dakavSirebiT,
Tu ratom danebda cxovrebas, pasubda tragikulad:
`imitom rom me qmar-Svili davkarge~.
mokled, Cveni dialogic didxans ar gagrZelebula,
pricnipSi imis gamo, rom mniSvnelovan Temebze arc gvi­
laparakia, es qalbatoni yvela Cven rCevas aufasureb­
da Tavisi mizezebiT, rac ar unda gveTqva, rogorc ar
unda agvexsna misTvis, rom is ar iyo marTali da mas
unda eswavla warsulis gaSveba. ar gvaZlevda aranair
Sedegs.
isev cremlebi, tirili, nerviuloba. bolos ki qal­
batonma mTxova dialogi dagvesrulebina da misi tanj­
vebi Semewyvita.
mec ar SevewinaaRmdege, jeikobi oTaxidan gavuSvi da
bolo ritualis Sesrulebas Sevudeqi.
ritualis dasrulebis Semdeg, jeikobi oTaxSi Semo­
vida da erTad gadavwyviteT axal adamianTan gadavsu­
liyaviT.
es iyo 85 wlis milioneri qali, ori Svilis deda,
qvelmoqmedi da sakmaod cnobili biznesledi.
wuTi ar gasula, me da Cemi megobari uzarmazar baR­
Si aRmovCndiT da im wamsve davinaxe is qalbatoni vis­
Tanac viyaviT mosulni, sanam mivuaxlovdebodiT jei­
kobma miTxra, rom icis am qalbatonis vinaoba da masTan
sakmaod kargi urTierToba aqvs, ramac Zalian gamaxara.
_ evelin!

142
Vako
 gahyviroda jeikobi sixaruliT savse TvalebiT da
amxela kaci patara bavSviviT gaiqca am qalbatonisken,
zustad ise rogorc didi xnis unaxavi deda da Svili
xvdebian erTmaneTs.
evelinic, jeikobs didi sixaruliT Sexvda, isini
jer exutebodnen erTmaneTs, mere ki evelinma jeikobis
saxeze xeliT Seexo da uTxra, rom is (jeikobi) jer
kidev axalgazrda iyo da ase adre ar unda wasuliyo
am qveynierebidan. magram jeikobma am Temaze saubars
Tavi aarida da isev deda-Svilur Caxutebas daubrun­
da, cota xanSi bartyebma CemTvisac moicales, evelini
Zalian tkbili, sayvareli xmiT momemasalma, mec mive­
salme da avuxseni, rom mas aqvs ufleba bolo dialogis
gamarTvisTvis, razec gaxarebulma dameTanxma. am qals
aSkarad undoda sakuTar cxovrebaze saubari.
_ sanam daviwyebT, miTxariT, erTmaneTs saidan ic­
nobT?
_ megobaro, me jer kidev 23 wlis viyavi evelins,
rom davukavSirdi da Cemi mentoroba vTxove, evelini
maSin ukve sakmaod warmatebuli da cnobili qali iyo,
misi silamaze ki mamakacebs, colianebs, Tu ucoloebs
didebs, Tu patarebs yvelas atyvevebda.
_ ah, kargi, jeikob, nuRa marcxven, arc aseTi lamazi
viyavi.
axla me gavagrZeleb Tu SeiZleba.
_ ki ra Tqma unda gaagrZele evelin.
evelinma Tavisi sayvareli moWutuli TvalebiT Se­
momxeda da tkbili xmiT daiwyo moyola imis, Tu rogor
gaicno Cveni jeikobi, gairkva, rom erT-erTi molapa­
rakebis Catarebis dros mas jeikobisgan Setyobineba
mouvida da am Setyobinebis teqstma aiZula evelins
jeikobi sakuTar saxlSi daepatiJebina.

143
Vako
 SetyobinebaSi ewera, Tu rogor afasebda jeikobi
evelinis saqmianobas, Tu rogor ivseboda is motiva­
ciiT evelinis yovel saxalxo gamosvlisas da amasTan
erTad Txovda mas, rom sul raRac 15 wuTi daeTmo
misTvis, raTa jeikobs hqonoda Sansi gaecno is re­
alur cxovrebaSic, rac misTvis Zalian mniSvnelovani
iyo.
SexvedrisTvis, jeikobi, Turme mTlian mzadyofna­
Si iyo da mTeli misi saubriT, ganaTlebuli meocnebe
TvalebiT da bunebrivi enTuziazmiT evelinis ndobas
iwvevda, maTi pirveli saubari 15 wuTs bevrad gadasc­
da, da esec imitom, rom jeikobi gulwrfel interess
iCenda evelinisadmi, is mas kiTxvas-kiTxvaze usvamda da
erxelac SeekiTxa `me riTi SemiZlia dagexmaro?~
am kiTxvam evelini sul gaakvirva _ `kidev aqeT unda
rameSi, rom damexmaros?~ ifiqra man da sabolood dia­
logi iqamde Seiyvana, rom is gaxda jeikobis mentori.
_ ki mase iyo megobaro, evelins Zalian didi wvrili
udevs Cems warmatebaSi, risic gulwrfeli madlobeli
var.
jeikobma winadadeba daasrula da isev tkbilad, gu­
lianad Caexuta am moxuc, magram jerac sicocxliT sa­
vse qalbatons.
ezoSi Cvengan 100-150 metris daSorebiT, TvalSi ra­
Rac Zalian ucnauri da patara sasaflao momxvda.
_ evelin, sasaflaos aq ra unda?
_ mand Cemi orive Svilia, samwuxarod avtokatas­
trofis msxverplni gaxdnen.
maT manqaniT viRac mTvrali mZRoli daejaxa da Cemi
Svilebi, Tavis manqanasTan erTad xramidan gadaagdo.
bavSvebi momentalurad daixocnen, mZRoli ki gadarCa.
_ da axla sad aris mZRoli?

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Vako
 _ Cvens qalaqSi cxovrobs, col-Svili yavs da sakmaod
patiosani adamianis cxovrebas atarebs, im momentis
Semdeg erT wveTsac ar svams da xSirad gvakiTxavs aq me
da Cems Svilebs.
_ gakiTxavT? axla Tu sworad gavige, Seni Svilebis
mkvlelze vsaubrobT xo?
_ mase nu ityvi gTxov, me mas mkvlels ar veZaxi, eg
aris iseTive ubeduri SemTxvevis monawile, rogorebic
iyvnen Cemi bavSvebi. merwmune, Cems SvilebTan erTad im
xramSi, am kacis sulic gadavarda.
_ ki magram mainc, man Seni bavSvebi mokla, davijero
apatie?
_ ki, vapatie, da agixsni rogor.
_ gismen aba.
_ sul pirvelad, roca es moxda, am kacis mimarT
ubralod zizRs ki ara, siZulvilis yvelaze Rrma grZ­
nobebs ganvicdidi, me am kacis danaxva ki ara, imis gafi­
qrebac ar mindoda, rom es adamiani icxovrebs da Cemi
bavSvebi ara.
eseTi mdgomareoba sakmaod didxans grZelbdeboda,
maSin daJe saSinel finansur problemebSic viyavi, qmar­
sac sakmaod didi xnis mitovebuli vyavdi da es bavSve­
bis wasvlac Cemi yvelaze saSiSi koSmarebis asrulebas
gavda, mokled, erTxelac bavSvebis saflavis sanaxavad
gamosulma Soridan es mamakaci davinaxe, romelic maT
qvasTan idga da tiroda.
Tavidan simwarisgan tvinSi amasxa, ukve imdenad ga­
brazebuli viyavi, rom gverdebSic vixedebodi, veZebdi
rame iseTs, rasac TavSi Cavartyamdi da vipove kidec,
erTi didi qva, iseTi romlis erTi CartymiTac am kacs
tvins gavasxmevinebdi, magram, raRacam SemaCera da am
qvis aRebis magier ubralod gaSterebulma daviwye yu­

145
Vako
 reba, vuyurebdi Tu rogor alagebda es kaci maT sa­
flavs, rogor kocnida maT qvas, magram axlos mainc ar
vuaxlovdebodi...
ramodenime wuTis yurebis Semdeg,roca am kacma da­
lagebas daaneba Tavi, ar vici rogor, magram pirdapir
me Semomxeda TvalebSi. ver getyvi micno Tu ara,imitom
rom cota moSorebiT videqi misgan, magram ise iyurebo­
da TiTqos adamiani ki ara namdvili suli enaxos, amis
Semdeg ki maleve adga da gaecala bavSvebis saflavs da
mxolod amis Semdeg, mivedi saflavTan.
iq, Cemo lamazebo, yovel dRe davdiodi da aseTi
sufTa, eg adgili jer ar damxvedria, gegoneboda Ra­
midan alagebda da TiTo wertils ramodenimejer wmen­
dda.
es faqti CemTvis imdenad saocari aRmoCoCnda, rom
me momiwia dafiqreba am adamianis patiebaze, Tavidan
ra Tqma unda patiebis azrs Cemi ara mxolod organiz­
mi, aramed sulic ebrZoda, magram sabolood momiwia
im azramde misvla, rom Cem Svilebs ar gauxardebodaT
Cemi mudmivi siZulvilis grZnoba am adamianisadmi. isi­
ni, ubralod Zalian keTili gulis bavSvebi iyvnen da ar
imsaxurebdnen Cemgan aseT saqciels.
xo ar geCveneba! Cemi Svilebi ar imsaxurebdnen Cems
aseT midgomas situaciisadmi.
miTxari, romel gardacvlil Svils gauxardeboda,
rom mis mSobels sul siZulvilis grZnobiT ecxovra,
amasTan erTad ki yoveli dRe, rom maTze glovaSi gae­
tarebina?
memgoni arc erT bavSvs ar esiamovneboda es da zus­
tad amitom, me miviRe gadawyvetyileba, romelmac yve­
laferi Secvala, vapatie!
ki, vapatie adamians. Cemi Svilebis mkvlels.

146

Vako
 _ Semdeg ra moxda?
_ Semdeg nel-nela davuaxlovdi mag kacs, is xSirad
mexmareboda sasaflaos dalagebaSi, cota xanSi misi
col-Svili gavicani, ici ra sayvaeli bavSvi yavs?
cota xanSi isic ki gavige, rom, Turme es kaci araso­
des ar svavda alkoholur sasmels da im saSnel dRes
mouwia daleva, radgan sakuTari mamis dakargvis (gar­
dacvalebis) tkivili daewynarebina, es ra Tqma unda ar
amarTlebs mas da mis saqciels, magram Cem TavalSi mas
ufro adamianurs xdis, vidre aqamde iyo.
_ da es materialuri simdidre saidan gamogiCnda?
_ gamomiCnda?
cota Caecina evelins Cems kiTxvaze.
ki ar gamomiCnda, davimsaxure, gamovimuSave, movipo­
ve, rogoc ukve giTxari arCevani gavakeTe iseTi, ro­
melmac yvelaferi Secvala, zizRs patieba vurCie, sik­
vdilamde glovas ki brZola da bednireba, me is Zalebi,
is energia, rac glovaSi mimdioda TviTgaumjobesebaSi
gadavitane, swavlaSi gamoviyene da maleve warmatebas
mivaRwie.
evelinma saubari daasrula da Semdeg jeikobic Cae­
rTo. 10-15 wuTi saerTod umniSvnelo raRaceebze vsau­
brobdiT, imdenad umniSvneloze, rom aq xsenebadac ar
Rirs...
cota xanSi ki saubriT daRlilma evelinma miTxra,
rom meti araferze undoda laparaki da kargi iqneboda
Tu Sevudgebodi sakuTar saqmes.
jeikobi yvelaze tkbili grZnobebiT daemSvidoba
Tavis megobars da auCqareblad, aSkara gulis tkivi­
liT gaecala bolo ritualis adgils.
saqmis dasrulebis Semdeg, me da jeikobi mis patara
tyeSi gadavediT da im ulamazesi CanCqeris piras mdgar

147
Vako
 qoxSi SevediT, jeikobi ukve mzad iyo Cveni dialogis
gagrZelebisTvis.
_ ukve vici razec unda visaubroT, Cven weRan ori
erTmaneTisgan radikalurad gansxvavebuli adamiani
vnaxeT, ori erTmaneTisgan gansxvavebuli realoba, ro­
melic mTlianad adamianis arCevanzea damokidebuli.
pirveli qalbatoni, mapatie magram namdvili msxver­
pli iyo, ki, mesmis, man yvela dakarga vinc yavda, cxo­
vrebisgan usastikesi gamocdileba miiRo, Tumca mas
daaviwyda is, rom TviTon jerac cocxalia da aqedan
gamomdinare man airCia sakuTari cxovrebis sisawyliT
damtkbariyo, evelinma ki amave dros, SeiZleba iTqvas
igive tkivilis gadatanisas sul sxva arCevani gaakeTa,
ramac misi cxovreba kidev erTxel gaanaTa, masac See­
Zlo mudmivad tkivilSi da siZulvilSi ecxovra, Tumca
icoda, rom es didi Secdoma iqneboda.
_ jeikob, zustad amis Cveneba mindoda SenTvis, min­
doda menaxebina Tu riTi gansxvavdeba msxverpli da
gamarjvebuli erTmaneTisgan, es gansxvaveba xom mxo­
lod adamianis mier gakeTebul arCevanSi gamomdina­
reobs...
Tu adamiani gasaWirTan brZolas, sakuTari Tavis Se­
codebas amjobinebs, is pirdapir gadadis msxverplTa
siaSi, is icodebs sakuTar cxovrebas da ubralod arc
ki cdilobs ramis gamosworebas. misi saqcielebi, misi
sicodvili avtomaturad uketavs mas yvela gzas da
yvela SesaZleblobas ukeTesisken.
_ ra Tqma unda masea megobaro, Tuki me, Tavis Se­
codebas vamjobineb brZolas, egreve davkargav kon­
trols, am dros yvela Cemi azri negativiT aivseba da
imis magier, rom rame kargi gakveTili gamovitano ama
Tu im usiamovnebidan, problema Tu gasaWiridan, imis

148

Vako
 magier rom me gavZlierde, viqcevii ufro uZlur da
ususur adamianad.
_ jeikob, da is Tu ici, rom xalxis umravlesoba
dRes msxverplTa sias ekuTxvnis? umravlesobas dRes
gonia, rom maTze araferi ar aris damokidebuli, rom
isini ver Secvlian sakuTar cxovrebas, isini aTasobiT
dabrkolebas xedaven yvelaferSi da arc ki cdiloben
ramis gamosworebas.
aba Tu ici, rogor unda amoicno msxverpli sakuTar
TavSi an sxva adamianSi, an saerTod raSi gvWirdeba misi
amocdnoba?
_ nu, rogorc me vici sxvaSi Tu sxveplis amocnobas
SevZlebT, rac Zalian advilia,maSinve unda gavecaloT
mas da ar aqvs mniSvneloba megobari iqneba es, Tu Seni
ojaxis wevri.
Cven maqsimalurad minimumamde unda miviyvanoT am
xalxis zemoqmedeba Cvenze, radgan maT gamosworebas
Cven fizikurad ver SevZlebT, da isini Cvens `ganad­
gurebas~ merwmune Zalian advilad SeZleben, Tan ise,
rom arc endomebaT CvenTvis ramis daSaveba, ubralod
im negativs, rac maTSi devs, im SiSebs, dabrkolebebs,
problemebs, dramas da sxva mraval rames gauazreblad
gadmogvcemen Cven.
axla ki getyvi Tu rogor unda aRmoaCino msxverpli
gind sxvaSi, gind sakuTar TavSi.
saerTod megobaro, msxverpls uyvars sakuTar pro­
blemebze saubari, maT uyvarT roca, raRac negatiur
gamocdilebas yvebian da mosaubrisgan gamgebian pasux­
sac Rebuloben, gamgebians anu Semcodvels, ai pirdapi­
ri gagebiT es ase gamoiyureba:
`naxe me ra gadavitane? xedav ra gasaWiris winaSe vd­
gavar? midi da Semicode!~

149
Vako
 aseve msxverpls uyvars bevri wuwuni, simarTle gi­
Txra, me viyavi zustad maseTi, dilidan dilamde vwuwu­
nebdi, xan ra mtkioda, xan ra mawuxebda, arasdros ar
viyavi xolme bolomde kmayofili. merwmune wuwunis mi­
zezs sul vpoulobdi _ `ai, manqanaSi benzini ar misxia
ra cudia~, `ui benzini Cavasxi magram manqana cudad
dadis, au cudi benzinia~
wuwuni megobaro igive Cvevaa, romelsac yvela Ta­
vmoyvare adamianma unda ebrZolos. gamarjvebulebi
arasdros ar wuwuneben!
arasdros!
kidev is unda icode, rom msxverpls uyvars yvela­
fris sxvaze gadabraleba da mas yovelTvis aqvs Sesaba­
misi pasuxebi im kiTxvebze, romelic mis warumateblo­
bas exeba, ai magaliTad, kiTxe msxverpls Tu ratom zis
umuSevrad colis kiserze da is aTas mizezs warmodgi­
dgens, dawyebuli msoflios krizisidan, damTavrebuli
qveyanaSi umuSevrobis maRali doniT, an kiTxe msxver­
pls, Tu ratom ar gamouvida romelime biznes proeqti
da miiRe pasuxad lamazi istoria, sadac Cveni `gmiri~
ganwirulad ibrZoda Tavisi saqmis gadasarCenad, ma­
gram CaTlaxi mTavroba amosunTqvis saSualebasac ar
aZlevda, sagadasaxado jarimas-jajrimaze uwerda da
sabolood misi sasqme gabankrotda. imas ki ar getyvis
gadasaxadebs, rom ar ixdida, finansur gegmebs, rom ar
asrulebda an biznesSi Semosul mTel Tanxas, rom saku­
Tar jibeSi idebda. ara, misTvis yovelTvis sxva iqneba
damnaSave.
msxverpls fuli ar aqvs?
mTavrobaa damnaSave.
samsaxuri ar aqvs?
mTavrobaa damnaSave da ase mTeli misi cxovrebis
ganmavlobaSi grZeldeba, es megobaro saSineli Secdo­

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Vako
 maa, sxvaze raimes gadabralebiT, Cven viklavT sakuTa­
ri winsvlis SesaZleblobas ,ai, agixsni rogor muSaobs
es momenti: Tu Cven raime momxdarze, mTeli pasuxism­
gebloba sxvaze gadagvaqvs, avtomaturad vkargavT am
situaciis marTvis unars.
`me ra SemiZlia, roca is ase moiqca? arc araferi!~
xolo, roca mTel pasuxismgeblobas sakuTar Tavze
aviRebT, Cven gveqmneba sul sxva, axali, unikaluri Se­
saZleblobebi.
ai, cxovrebiseuli magaliTic: aviyvanoT ori mamaka­
ci, erTi maTgani msxverpli iyos, meore Sesabamisad ga­
marjvebuli, pirvels hgonia, rom qveyanaSi cudi situ­
aciaa, samsaxurebi ar aris, qarxnebi iketeba da xalxi
mSieria. mokled, mas gonia rom yvelaferi trakSia da
kidev ufro Rrmad midis. ras izams aseTi adamiani?
ras moimoqmedebs is imisTvis, rom rame gamoasworos,
maSin, roca aseTi raRaceebis sjera? getyvi rasac!
maqsimum adgeba da axlobelTan gadarekavs samuSaos
povnis TxovniT da Semdeg gadava lodinis reJimSi.
Tu kiTxav samsaxurze rames, getyvis, rom is sam­
saxurs elodeba, da arc ityueba, is marTlac marTlac
elodeba, magram ici ras?
imas, rom erTi wlis win viRaca dapirda, rom sadRac
cxra mTas iqiT odesRac vakansia iqneba da mas aucile­
blad daawyebineben muSaobas. bolos ki es umoqmedoba
midis iqamde, rom aseTi adamiani poulobs samsaxurs
sadac an saerTod ar ixdian xelfass (rac mudmivi fu­
lis amoRebaSi da wvalebaSi gadadis) an ixdian saarsebo
minimums, nu namdvilad monur samsaxurSi.
amave dros, meore adamiani `gamarjvebuli~ darwmu­
nebuli imaSi, rom samsaxurebi aris (yria), Cadis mra­
val moqmedebas, is agzavnis cv-s sxvadasxva vakansiebze,

151
Vako
 ekiTxeba megobrebs, nacnobebs, naTesavebs samsaxuris
Sesaxeb, Sedis sxvadasxva saitebze da TiTqmis yvela
vakansize, iq sadac misi pirvnuli Tvisebebi da profe­
siuli mdgomareoba emTxveva, Tu ar emTxveva, mainc ag­
zavnis Tavis reziumes,Semdeg Sedis socialur qselebSi
da pouobs absoluturad yvela iseT kompanias, sadac
is muSaobas SeZlebda da yvela maTgans wers erT sasia­
movno teqsts, sadac pirvel rigSi adamianurad esalme­
ba, Semdeg zrdilobis niSnad ekiTxeba Tu rogor aris
is adamiani (visTvisac aris gankuTvnili mesiji) Semdeg
ki ayolebs Tavis kiTxvas vakansiis arsebobasTan dakav­
SirebiT. Semdeg Sedis isev dasaqmebis saitebze da reka­
vs yvela im vakansiaze, sadac mobiluris nomeri aris
miTiTebuli, rekavs imitom, rom umravlesoba SemTxve­
vaSi aseTi samsaxuris dawyeba maleve SeiZleba (xSirad
iq sadac mobiluri nomeri miTiTebulia reziumesac ar
iTxoven da meore dResve ayavxarT samsaxurSi.) da aseT
moqmedebebs gana erTs an ors Cadis, gana erTxel an or­
jer, is asobiT amdagvar moqmedebas Cadis da merwmune
1-2-3 an 4 dReSi is aucileblad poulobs samsaxurs!
me, saerTod, fexiTac davdiodi ofisebSi, maRazie­
bSi, restornebSi, absoluturad yvelgan Sevdiodi da
vakansiis arsebobas vkiTxulobdi maSin, roca samsaxurs
veZebdi.
Tu vinme dainteresdeboda Cemi reziumeTi ubralod
mailze vugzavnidi xolme, magram xSir SemTxvevaSi, dam­
saqmebels uceb avyavdi kidec.
aseve, megobaro, msxverpli cxovrobs warsuliT, es
xalxis is kategoriaa, romlebic mudam warsulSi momx­
dars eWideba, gardaicvala axlo adamiani?
`vso cxovreba aRar Rirs, awi mTeli cxovreba mas
unda gadavayolo~.

152

Vako
 vinmem raRac saqmeSi fuli daaklo an ar gadauxada?
am fulis amoReba, mis mTavar saqmianobad iqceva, is
am Tanxis amosaRebad Carevs yvela im `avtoritets~ vi­
sac ki miwvdeba, iCxubebs, iomebs da arafriT ar Sear­
Cens sxva adamians im Tavis damsaxurebul 1000$-s.
gamarjvebuli ki aseT dros, piriqiT ukeTesisTvis
ibrZvis, Tu is `gadaagdes~ rame saqmesa, Tu TanxaSi,
mas mTeli Tavisi energiis amouRebelis aRebaSi xarj­
vas, urCevnia axali SesaZleblobebis ZebnaSi daxarjos,
xolo gardacvlil axloblebze sikvdilamde glovas,
amjobinebs cxovrebis gagrZelebas miuxedavad am auta­
neli tkivilisa.
principSi, megobaro, msxverplis sxva tipebzec ukve
nalaparakebi gvaqvs, esenia Suriani, Worika, arafris
maqnikisi xalxi. mokled, yvela is vinc sakuTar cxo­
vrebaze pasuxismgeblobis aRebas, amave pasuxismgeblo­
bis sxvaze gadacemas amjobinebs.
_ jeikob da mainc aris iseTi rame, rac yvela msxver­
pls aerTianebs?
_ ki, megobaro, individualuroba, ufroswored
misi uqonloba, msxverpli Cemo kargo azrovnebs sxvisi
azrebiT, cxovrobs sxvisi cxovrebiT da ocnebobs sxvi­
si ocnebebiT. mas Tavisi, merwmune araferi ar gaaCnia.
_ kargi, eg gasagebia, da mainc msxverplze daxmareba
ramiT SesaZlebelia?
SeiZleba misi Secvla?
_ rogor daexmarebi imas, visac sakuTar Tavze daxma­
reba ar unda?
msxverpls ukve Camjdari aqvs TavSi is, rom misi
cxovreba `tanjvaa~, is rom ocnebebi ar sruldeba da
ukeTesoba arasodes ar iqneba, am dros ki yvela Seni

153
Vako
 mcdeloba daexmaro mas, damijere mxolod imedgacrue­
biT damTavrdeba.
erTaderTi, rac Sen SegiZlia da valdebuli xar, rom
gaakeTo esaa masTan urTierToba maqsimalurad minimu­
mamde daiyvano, radgan misma pesimizma da SiSebma Senze
cudi zegavlena ar moaxdinos. damijere es msxverpls
Zalian kargad gamosdis.

stereotipebi

me da jeikobi kidev cota xans vixsenebdiT sxvadasx­

va istoriebs msxverpl xalxTan dakavSirebiT, Tumca
rame seriozuli namdvilad aRar gagvinxilavs, SeiZle­
ba iTqvas, rom es iyo patara, megobruli dialogi, sul
male Cven axal Temaze saubari gadavwyviteT, romelze­
dac jeikobis surviliT SevCerdiT, Cven gvindoda ste­
reotipebze da stereotipul azrovnebaze erTi-ori
sityva gveTqva iqamde sanam xalxis urTierTobaze ar
daviwyebdiT saubars.
_ stereotipebi marTavs samyaros!
sakmaod seriozuli toniT warmoTqva jeikobma, ise
TiTqos marto es winadadeba unda myofnoda yvelafris
gasagebad, nu ra Tmqa unda mec ar meyo misi erTi wina­
dadeba da vTxove gaegrZelebina saubari.
_ megobaro, xalxis umravlesoba cxovrobs stere­
otipebiT, umravlesobas sityvis pirdapiri mniSvne­
lobiT, Tavisi azri ar gaaCnia. yvelaferi, risic maT
(umravlesobas) sjeraT, risTvisac ibrZvian, stereo­
tipuli azrovnebisgan gamomdinareobs. ai, magaliTad,

154
Vako
 Zalian bevrs swams imis, rom mdidrebi borotebi da
`proWebi~ arian. saidan modis es azri?
am azrs TviTon mdidrebi xom ar gaavrcelebdnen
ara?
sakuTar Tavze xom ar ityodnen cudebi varTo?
_ ara.
_ ho, ar ityodnen.
ai elementaruli yvelaze gavrcelebuli situaciac:
viRac petos saswrafod sWirdeba fuli, vTqvaT binas
arTmevs banki, mas mis irgvliv myofi xalxi verafriT
ver exmareba (an ar exmareba) da mas axsendeba, rom sa­
dRac Sors, hyavs erTi mdidari da warmatebuli na­
Tesavi, romelic petos warmodgenebSi valdebulia
daexmaros mas gasaWirSi, nu ratomac ara ho?
fuli aqvs da ras qvia ar daexmaros?!
mokled, petom miakiTxa naTesavs, cota xans esaubra
Cveulebriv adamianur Temebze nu `rogor xar? ;ras
Svebi?; bovSvi rogor aris?~ da Semdeg Tavis Txovnac
fulis micemasTan dakavSirebiT daayola. petom uTxra
naTesavs, rom Tanxa sasicocxlod Wirdeboda, razec
raTqmaunda uari miiRo. peto guldawyvetili wavida
saxlSi da jer mis cols mouyva, Tu ra proWia es na­
Tesavi, mere Svilebs auxsna da daajera, rom aseTebi
arasdros ar unda gaxdnen da Semdeg ubnis birJaze
Tavis `saZmosTan~ xsnida, Tu rogor proWulad moeqca
mas es naTesavi da ra Tqma unda meti damajereblobis­
Tvis Tan daayola rame amdagvari winadadeba: `CemTan
rom mosuliyo vinme Cemnair dReSi, rogor ar dave­
xmarebodi? yvelafers mivcemdi rac meqneboda, fuuf
magis namuss ra vuTxari~. magram am sityvebis Tqmisas
petom ar icis is, rom jer erTi, is mdidari arasodes
ar iqneba da realobaSi misi sityvebi arafrad ar fa­

155
Vako
 sobs, Tu moqmedebiT ar daadastureb. Semdeg ki arc
is icis rom misnairi, am mdidar naTesavTan dReSi 10
midis fulis saTxovnelad, Tan petos arc is ainte­
resebs, rom am naTesavma pirdapir uaris TqmiT ki ar
daemSvidoba, aramed samsaxuri SesTavaza, romelzec
ra Tqma unda `xelgaSlilma petom~ uari Tqva, radgan
mas fuli axla da am wams sWirdeboda. man arc is icis,
ufroswored is arc arasodes dafiqrebula imaze, Tu
rogor gamdidrda es misi naTesavi. erTi, rac petom
icis esaa is, rom mis naTesavs ubralod gaumarTla
cxovrebaSi da morCa.
megobaro, am magaliTiT me imis Tqma minda, rom pe­
tos analogi xalxi yovel nabijSi gvxvdeba da zustad
isini qmnian an aZliereben am stereotipebs, isini erT­
maneTs, TavianT Svilebs, naTesavebs da yvelas irgvliv
ajereben sakuTar mcdar warmodgenebSi ama Tu im Te­
mastan dakavSirebiT da mere, Sen ramdenic ginda umtki­
ce, rom maTi azri simarTles ar Seesabameba, merwmune,
es igive iqneba,rac qvasTan laparaki.
aseT xalxs ukve Camoyalibebuli aqvs is stereotipe­
bi, is azrebi (magalTad mdidrebis borotebasTan daka­
vSirebiT) da am azris marTebulobis realuri mtkice­
bulebebic aqvT. amitomac, awi rac ginda is uTxari,
ver Seucvli mis warmodgenas. ubralod vera da morCa.
jeikobma Rrmad CaisunTqa da ganagrZo.
am magaliTiT me vcdilob imis Tqmas, rom umra­
vlesoba yovelTvis marTali ver iqneba. daJe metic!
umravlesobas, mapatie ganmeorebisTvis da umravles
SemTxvevaSi mcdari warmodgena aqvs realobasTan daka­
vSirebiT da es cxovrebis yvela sferoSi xdeba.
ar aqvs mniSnveloba iqneba es rasizmi, qalTa Cag­
vra Tu seqsualur umciresobisadmi zizRi. yvela ma­

156
Vako
 Tgani stereotipia, romelic adamianma irwmuna sxvebis
Semxedvarem da yvela is informacia, rac mis rwmenas
gadaudgeba, misTvis zedmetia. morCa megobaro. erTi
imas davamateb, rom umravlesoba xSir SemTxvevaSi cde­
ba, Tu ginda rames miaRwio, maTi stereotipebiT da
maTi azrebiT ar unda icxovro. eg aris.
_ jeikob, radgan umravlesobis Secdoma axsene, min­
da erTi naTeli magaliTi mogiyve. odesmem, Tu gagigia
rogor nadirobdnen Zvel dros indielebi bizonebze?
_ ara, ar msmenia.
_ es iyo idealurad gaTvlili taqtikuri gegma, mS­
venivrad dalagebuli xafangebi, gunduri muSaoba, ro­
melic adamianidan dawyebuli, bizonis instinqtebiT
damTavrebuli absoliturad yvelafers iTvaliswineb­
da. aseT sasaklaos, jeikob, iSviaTad Tu Sevswrebivar.
ubralod damijere monadireebis erT gasvlaze asobiT
cxoveli ixoceboda, magram gaiTvaliswine me istoriis
moyolas, Tavisi wlebis da saukuneebis xsenebiT ar va­
pireb. aq sul sxva rameze minda gesaubro.
_ kargi, gismen.
_ idea aseTia: ramodenime monadire iwyebs xmamaRla
yvirils, bunebrivia cxovelebs eSiniaT, isini garbian
da am dros erTi cxenosani bizonebs sirbilis mimar­
Tulebas aZlevs. is raRac specialur manipulaciebs
Cadis da naxiris liders aiZulebs gaiqcnen winaswar
gamzadebuli ufskrulisken, maSin, roca lideri bizo­
nebi ufskurls dainaxaven, maTi SeCereba SeuZlebeli
xdeba, radgan uknidan sxva SeSinebuli cxovelebi aw­
vebian, ris Sedegadac, yvela bizoni ufskrulSi var­
deba da monadireebs is Ra darCeniaT, rom daasrulon
Tavisi dawyebuli saqme. sul cota xanSi, jeikob, im
ufskrulSi sadac weRan asobiT cxoveli gadaeyara,

157
Vako
 mxolod ZvlebiRa rCeba. merwmune arc erTi cxoveli
ar rCeba gamouyenebeli. jeikob rogor ggonia, ratom
iyo am taqtikis realobaSi moyvana SesaZlebeli?
_ ar vici, ver getyvi.
_ imitom, rom TviTon liderma bizonebma ar ician
saiT mirbian, isini miyvebian im miniSnebebs, rasac cxe­
nosani aZlevs, xolo ukana cxovelebi amave dros maTi
bunebidan gamomdinare Tavs dabla xrian da mirbian
zustad im mimarTulebiT saiTac mirbis maT win morbe­
nali cxoveli, isini am sirbilis periodSi arasdros ar
ixedebian arc gverdebSi, arc maRla, isini ar cdiloben
TavisiT gziT gaqcevas da amis Sedegad iseve, rogorc
TavianTi liderebi, TviTonac ukve Tavisufal vardna­
Si xedaven im saSinel realobas, romlamdec sakuTarma
daunaxavobam miiyvana, magram maT, ukve aRaraferi uS­
velis.
memgoni amiT yvelaferi naTqvamia ara?!

xalxTan urTierToba

Cemi sityvebis Semdeg cota xans orive Cumad viya­

viT, TiTqos araferze saubars ar vapirebdiT, TiTqos
es siCume laparakobda Cvens magier, magram romantika
iqiT iyos da jeikobma siCume sityviT `urTierToba~
daarRvia.
_ ra urTierToba?
_ ra da xalxTan urTierTobaze ar gvilaparakia,
arada Zalian mniSvnelovani Temaa, Tu yvelaze mniSvne­
lovani ara...

158

Vako
 _ egrea jeikob, Tu xalxTan kargi urTierTobis
dawyoba ar SegiZlia cxovreba ki ara namdvili jojo­
xeTi geqneba.
_ ki, egrea, saerTod ramdenadac simpatiuri, ange­
loziviT lamazi ar unda iyo, ramdeni fulic ar unda
gqondes, xalxTan urTierTba mainc mogiwevs da ginda
Tu ara, am sakiTxSi Zlieri unda iyo.
megobaro me vecdebi yvelaze mniSvnelovan sakiTxebs
Sevexo da rac SeiZleba konkretulad vilaprako.
_ kargi, jeikob, yuradRebiT gismen.

xalxTan urTierToba-Rimili

_ megobaro, Sen warmoidgine Zalian bevrma dRes Ri­

milis fasi ar icis, seriozuli saxiT siaruli ki Cveu­
lebrivi movlena gaxda. sadac ar unda gaxvide, metro­
Si, avtobusSi, quCebSi, maRaziebSi, yvelgan `seriozuli
saxis~ kultia Camoyalibebuli da es xdeba maSin, roca
Rimili adamianis yvelaze Zlieri iaraRia. mis gareSe
arseboba ubralod SeuZlebelia, maS ratomac ar viswa­
vloT Rimilis swored gamoyeneba?
me mogiyvebi, Tu rogor unda daiTanxmo da gadmoiy­
vano xalxis umravlesoba sakuTar azrze. mogiyvebi, Tu
rogor unda gamoxvide absoluturad yvela konfliq­
turi situaciidan. mogiyvebi, Tu rogor unda daZlio
yvela stresuli situacia da es yvelaferi marto Ri­
milis daxmarebiT moxdeba.
jer, megobaro, ra saTqmeli es aris, magram mainc
vityvi. momRimari adamiani yvelas uyvars. momRimari

159
Vako
 adamiani yovelTvis tovebs Wkviani da sando adamianis
warmodgenas. oRond es Rimilis efeqti muSaobs maSin,
roca mas swor momentSi iyeneb. anu Sen Tu daniT xelSi
maniakaluri saxiT gauRimeb adamians, Wkviani da sando
adamianis warmodgenas namdvilad ver Seuqmni mas.
_ jeikob, da mainc ras gulisxmob Rimilis sworad
gamoyenebaSi?
_ magaliTad imas, rom Rimilis dros Tvalebic odnav
moWutuli unda iyos, ubralod cade sarkis winaSe jer
odnav moWutuli TvalebviT gaRimeba da Semdeg Zalian
Ria, gaunZreveli TvalebiT igives gakeTeba, nu pirveli
varianti ufro mogewoneba. meorem SeiZlebva SegaSinos
kidec. saerTod, megobaro, moWutuli TvalebiT gaRi­
meba, yvela adamianis bunebrivi mdgomareobaa, Tumca
Zalian iSviaTad, vinmem icodes moWutuli Tvalebis
arabunebrivad, ZaliT da gamiznulad gamoyeneba, es
unari imdenad bevrs moutans yvelas vinc Seiswavlis,
rom ver warmoidgen. Tumca mis gamomuSavebas erTidan
or Tvemde yoveldRiuri varjiSi daWirdeba.
varjiSi ki araferi gansakuTrebulisgan ar Sedge­
ba, ubralod, yoveldRiurad 5-10 wuTis ganmavlobaSi
sarkis winaSe unda avarjiSo Seni Rimili, rac SeiZle­
ba lamazad da bunebrivad moWutuli TvalebiT, iqamde
sanam ar mixval SenTvis yvelaze damakmayofilebel Ri­
milamde, im Rimilamde romlis danaxvisas ityvi, rom ai
es aris is, rac marTla gixdeba.
jeikobma namdvilad icoda is razec saubrobda, misi
Rimili mTeli Cveni saubris periodSi, raRac Sinagan
siamovnebas iwvevda CemSi da maSin, roca jeikobi iRimo­
da, Senc ginda Tu ara igive emociiT upasuxebdi.
_ jeikob, da marTla dReSi 5-10 wuTi avarjiSebdi
xolme Sens Rimils da amitomac gamoiyureba is ase sa­
siamovnod?

160
Vako
 _ uime ki, Sen unda genaxe me bavSvobaSi, memgoni yve­
laze sazizRari sicili da Rimili me mqonda. gaCveneb
Tu ginda rogor viRimodi.
_ ki, midi.
jeikobi gaemzada da ise gaiRma, rom 77 wlis kacs ki
ara 85 wlis cxens daemsgavsa. kbilebi gareT gadmoyara,
zeda tuCi im donemde maRla awia, rom RrZilebi ki ara
lamisaa misi tvini gamoCeniliyo, cali Tvali ki odnav
moWutuli hqonda, meore ki am dros mTlianad gaxsni­
li gaunZrevlad miyurebda. mokled, jeikobi zustad
iseTi Sexedulebis gaxda, rogoric klubSi gacnobili,
axal gaRviZebuli umakiaJo gogonebi arian...
_ kargi, kargi, geyos! aRar unda daminde, gTxov!
ar minda mTeli Cemi ukvdavi cxovrebis manZlze am
saxes vixsenebde.
jeikobma gulianad Caicina, cota xans Cveulebri­
vi saxis dalagebas moandoma da isev Rimilze saubars
daubrunda.
_ mokled, megobaro, lamazi da sasiamovno Rimilis
gamomuSavebis Semdeg CaTvale adamians yvela gza xsni­
li aqvs.
jer mas TviTon Rimilis procesi avtomatur moq­
medebamde gamoumuSavdeba, Sedegad, merwmune, maleve
miiRebs xalxisgan pozitiur da dadebiT Sefasebebs
sakuTar RimilTan dakavSirebiT. radgan lamaz Rimils
megobaro, absoluturad yvela amCnevs.
merwmune, lamazi Rimili Secvlis yvelafers, Sen
saqmian Sexvedrebze xalxs ufro advilad daiTanxmeb,
xolo daZabul situaciebs ki, mTlianad daukargav
azrs da kidev sxva mravali ram.
aseve bonusad, adamianis fiziologiasac minda Seve­
xo, Cveni organizmisTvis megobaro, saerTod aranair

161
Vako
 mniSvnelobas ar warmoagens Cven ZaliT vicinivarT-­
viRmivarT Tu bunebrivad. orive SemTxvevaSi, Cveni
organizmi bednierebis hormonebs gamoyobs, rac sabo­
lood ZaliT momRimarsac igive sasiamovno SegrZnebas
moutans, rogorsac bunebrivad momRimars.
aqedan gamomdinare, elementarulad xSiri da regu­
laruli ZaliT gaRimebis saSualebiT,Rrma depresiidan
gamosvlac aris SesaZlebeli.
principSi, am Temaze jer veRarafers davamateb, ami­
tomac modi axla Semdeg Temas SevexoT da Rimilze
saubari cota xniT gverdze gadavdoT.

Seqeba

jeikobma mis ezoSi gaseirneba da paralelurad seir­

nobis dros dialogis gagrZeleba SemomTavaza, razec
Cemi Tanxmoba miiRo da maleve mis uzarmazar, ulamazes
ezoSi gadavinacvleT.
_ megobaro, samyaroSi sadac xalxs kritika, Suri da
Worebi abrmavebs, arsebobs imdenad Zlieri moqmedeba,
romelsac yvela am negatiuri movlenis ganadgureba
SeuZlia, me axla adamianis Seqebaze gesaubrebi.
_ ki, jeikob, qebas marTlac Zalian didi Zala aqvs
da sxvaTaSoris iSviaTia vinmem, qebis sworad gamoyene­
ba icodes.
_ ki, ai, zustad amaze minda gesaubro. mokled!
principSi, raRa mokled, ase arc gamomiva. xalxis
umravlesobas warmodgenac ar aqvs, ramdenad Zlieri
da mamotivirebelia qeba, xalxi imdenad SeeCvia nega­

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Vako
 tiur azrovnebas da zogadad negativs, rom maT, xalx­
Si mxolod cudis danaxvaRa SeuZliaT da es situacia
imdenad masiuria, imdenad gavrcelebulia, rom ada­
miani, romelmac qebis sworad gamoyeneba icis, yvelgan
da yvelasTan, absoluturad yvela wreSi, xalxis anda
raRa marto xalxis, aramed cxovelebis siyvaruliTac
isargeblebs.
saerTod, ese zereled, rom davyo, adamianis qeba
SeiZleba iyos 2 tipis, aferistuli da gulwrfeli,
aqedan megobaro aferistul qebas absoluturad yvela
adamiani iyenebs. xolo gulwrfels, nu, rogorc ukve
vaxsene Zalian cota.
_ da riTi gansxvavdeba isini erTmaneTisgan jeikob?
_ mSvenieri kiTxvaa megobaro, aferistuli Seqeba
imdenad iaffasiania, rom misi suni kilometris daSo­
rebiTac igrZnoba, ai magaliTad aferistuli Seqebaa,
roca ori megobridan erT-erTma warmatebas miaRwia da
meore am dros, situaciis Sinagan uaryofas grZnobs.
is ar grZnobs sixaruls megobris warmatebaze da mainc
eubneba `xo ra magari xar, Sen es marTla daimsaxure~ an
`me vicodi, rom Sen SeZlebdi~ da es yvelaferi iTq­
mis maSin, roca am megobars saerTod ar sjeroda pir­
velis warmatebis.
aseve aferistuli Seqeba, Zalian xSirad daqalebs
Sorisac mosula: `ui ra lamazad gamoiyurebi dRes, es
Sarvali aSkarad gasustebs~ maSin, roca amis mTqmeli
daqali, meore daqalis Rips Tvals ver aSorebs, an Su­
riani qebac `uime ra magari xar, rogor gagimarTla
ara?~
amdagvar replikebs da situaciebs, rogorc ar unda
movindomo, yvelas ver CamovTvli. Tumca yvela maT­
gans erTi ram aerTianebs da amas tyuili qvia.

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Vako
 rogorc ar unda malavde adamiani sakuTar uaryo­
fas sxva adamianisadmi, aferistuli qeba, merwmune yo­
velTvis igrZnoba.
_ rogor Tu igrZnoba?
_ elementarulad, roca viRacas aqeb im dros, roca
misadmi Sinagan uaryofas gZnob, Seni piri ambobs erTs
da Seni organizmi, saxe, xelebi, poza, Rimili da mTeli
araverbaluri buketi meores.
es elementaruli fiziologiuri Tvisebebia, romel­
sac adamiani ver Secvlis, aqedan gamomdinare, is vinc
aseT Seqebas Rebulobs, ismens erTs da xedavs meores.
Sedegad ki, egreve xvdeba imas, rom qeba arabunebrivia.
ki, SeiZleba, Sen am dros iRimode da Tavis gakon­
trolebas cdilobde, Tumca Seni qvecnobieri mainc
imas aCvenebs adamians, rasac Sen realurad grZnob. ai,
gulwrfel Seqebas, rac Seexeba, es aris Zalian didi ma­
motivirebeli da pozitiuri Zala. adamians, romelsac
gulwrfelad aqeben, siyvarulidan dawyebuli, ndobiTa
da TavdajerebiT damTavrebuli, yvela dadebiTi emo­
ciis gancda uwevs.
gulwrfelad Seqebuli adamiani ivseba motivaciiTa
da imis mtkicebulebiT, rom misi saqmianoba da misi pi­
rovneba, realurad raRacas niSnavs, rac merwmune yve­
lasTvis mniSvnelovania.
Tu Sen vinmes gulwrfelad aqeb, elode imas, rom es
adamiani, Tavisi sicocxlis bolomde Segiyvarebs. elo­
de imas, rom misi warmatebis gza SenTan iqneba emociu­
rad dakavSirebuli, radgan, zustad Sen xar is erTa­
derTi adamiani, vinc mas winsvlis motivaciiT avsebda
amden kritikos da boRmiT savse xalxs Soris. kidev ras
davamatebdi ici? imas, rom Zalian bevrs sjera amis:
`qeba adamians afuWebs~, an

164
Vako
 amis: `Tu adamians xSirad Seaqebs, mas TavSi auvar­
deba~. nu, principSi, orive erTi da igive azris wina­
dadebaa, magram merwmune Zalian bevria iseTi visac am
sisulelis swams, ratom sisulelis?
imitom, rom situaciis mcdar warmodgenas niSnavs da
agixsni ratomac.
eseTi warmodgena adamianze mcdaria imitom, rom amis
mTqmeli gulwrfel qebas arasdros ar iyenebs, ris Se­
degadac sxva pirovnebas agrZnobinebs sakuTar Sinagan
uaryofas da zustad aqedan gamomdinare, es viTom `na­
qebi~ pirovneba ubralod grZnobs imas, rom mis saqmia­
nobas ar afaseben da nel-nela emociurad Tu fiziku­
rad Sordeba im adamians, vinc mas aferistulad aqebs.
ai, amis Semdeg iwyeba ukve is saubrebi TiTqos, rom
adamians qeba afuWebs...
nu, Tu marTlac gafuWebulad iTvleba motyuebuli
adamiani, maSin me vin var, rom rame vaswavlo xalxs,
ara? me ubralod vambob imas, rac vici, rac minaxavs da,
risi gamocdilebac maqvs, daskvnebi ki, megobaro, Cemi
nalaparakebidan yvelam Tavisi gamoitanos.
_ marTali xar, jeikob.
_ kargi, megobaro. Sen ukve ici gansxvaveba aferis­
tul da gulwrfel qebas Soris. axla modi mogiyvebi,
Tu rogor unda Seaqo adamiani gulwrfelad, rac Za­
lian, ai, Zalian advilia, Tumca patara xnis praqtika
aucilebad dagWirdeba.
imisaTvis, rom adamiani gulwrfelad Seaqo, Sen unda
dainteresde mis mier Sesrulebuli saqmis procesiT,
anu, Tu unda Seaqo adamiani, ki ar uTxra _ `ra maga­
ri xar~, an raime amdagvari banaluri sityvebi, aramed
dainteresdi TviTon misi saqmiT _ `rogor SeZeli amis

165
Vako
 gakeTeba?~, `vau ramden xans moundi amis Sesrulebas?~,
`da ramdeni xania, rac am saqmiT xar dakavebuli?
cudad ar gamigo, magram amas imitom gekiTxebi, rom
Zalian kargad gamogdis.~ anu maqsimalurad dainteres­
di Sesrulebuli saqmiT, misi procesiT, istoriiT, im
detalebiT, rasac yvela ver SeamCnevs da merwmune Se­
degad adamianis guli dapyrobili geqneba.
magram araviTar SemTxvevaSi, arasdros ar SegeSalos
sxvisi qeba, sakuTari Tavis damcirebasTan _ `xo me amas
ver SevZlebdi, bravo~.
`ra magari xar, me xom ase arasdros ar gamomiva~.
aseTi saqcieliT-sityvebiT, Sen Tavidanve ukargav fass
sakuTar qebasa da sakuTari sityvebis avtoritets.
Sedegad ki, adamiani ubralod kargavs Sendami pati­
viscemas.
_ kargi, jeikob, modi rame magaliTi moviyvanoT da
mere Semdeg Temazec gadavideT.
_ kargi megobaro, aba wamierad warmoidgine TiTqos
me da Sen ori studenti megobari varT da erT-erT
gamocdaze Sen maqsimaluri qulis aReba SeZeli maSin,
roca me maqsimalurTan naxevradac miaxloebuli ver
miviRe. Sen ra Tqma unda am dros modixar CemTan saku­
Tari sixarulis gasaziareblad da gauazreblad Cemgan
qebas Tu ara, emociebis gayofas mainc elodebi. me ki
ar SemiZlia Seni emociebis gayofa elementarulad imis
gamo, rom Sengan gansxvavebiT gamarjvebuli ki ara da­
marcxebuli gamovdivar. bolos da bolos mec adamiani
var da adamianebSi Zalian iSviaTia sxvisi warmatebisT­
vis gulwrfeli sixarulis grZnoba, miT umetes maSin,
roca TviTon warumatebeli xar.
mokled, situaciidan gamomdinare, me, rogorc me­
gobari, valdebuli var Segaqo da rogor ggonia sit­

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Vako
 yvebiT _ `va gilocav magari xar~ da matyuara RimiliT,
rames mivaRwev?
_ ara ra Tqma unda, SeiZleba, daJe ukomfortodac
magrZnobino Tavi.
_ zustad, megobaro, amitom Cemi mxridan Wkvianuri
iqneba gulwrfeli interesis gamoCena Seni gamarjvebi­
sadmi:
`biWo ramden xans emzadebodi gaxsovs? aba ra gegona
ueWveli Caabarebdi~ `ai klubebSi rom ar dagvyvebodi
da ar daloTaobdi CvenTan erTad, imitomac SeZeli Ca­
bareba, bravo~.
anu me unda SevZlo SenSi, Sens saqcielSi, Sens mi­
RwevaSi, raRac dadebiTis naxva da imaze aqcentis gake­
Teba, riTic SevZleb Seni grZnobebis dakmayofilebas,
miuxedavad Cemi Sinagani diskommfortisa, Cems waruma­
teblobasTan dakavSirebiT.
axla droa SevajamoT, megobaro.
qeba unda iyos gulwrfeli da ara aferistuli,
gulwrfeli qeba ki SesaZlebeli iqneba maSin, roca in­
teresdebi adamianis saqmianobiT, misi detalebiT, is­
toriiT da a.S.
xolo banaluri _ `ra magari xar~, `saRol~ winadade­
bebis gamoyeneba SeiZleba mxolod maSin, roca realu­
rad gulwrfelad grZnob siamovnebas sxvis miRwevasTan
dakavSirebiT. sxva SemTxvevaSi, yvela amdagvari qebis
mcdelobas, isev naqebi adamiani grZnobs da negatiurad
aRiqvams.
_ gasagebia, kargi biWi xar jeikob. modi Semdeg Te­
mazec gadavideT.
_ kargi, razec mogindeba, imaze visaubroT.

167
Vako
 siyvaruli

_ kargi, jeikob, modi, jer erT ucnaur ambavs mo­

giyvebi
_ kargi, megobaro, yuradRebiT gismen.
_ es ambavi, Tavs ramodenme saukunis win gadamxda da
CemTvis imdenad dasamaxsovrebeli iyo, rom valdebu­
lad vTvli Tavs, mogiyve.
yvelaferi daiwyo imiT, rom Cems siaSi ori axalga­
zrda, gogona da biWi gamoCnda, da maTTan gadasuli,
Zalian lamaz tyeSi aRmovCndi sadac, am axalgazrdebis
seqsis mowmed viqeci, es ori procesiT imdenad gaerT­
nen, rom Cemgan namdvili unamusoba iqneboda maT bolo
TavgadasavalSi Careva, amitomac me, TviT sikvdils,
momiwia xeebs Soris damalva da raRa dagimalo, cota
TvalTvalic ki.
_ TvalTvalio?
_ ki, es iseTi sanaxaoba iyo, jeikob, mand imdeni vne­
ba, siyvaruli da siamvneba iyo, rom didi Secdoma iqne­
boda, Cemi mxridan amis gamotoveba. isini ara mxolod
sxeulebiT, aramed mentaluradac iyvnen dakavSirebul­
ni, es namdvilad ar iyo Cveulebrivi Seyvarebulebis
seqsi. orive maTgani erTnairad iyo CarTuli saqmeSi
da yvela maTi moZraoba sinqronulad idealuri iyo,
daJe maTi sunTqvis tempic ki erTnairi iyo, xolo xme­
bi ki, nazi siamovnebiT aRsavse... ise ki ar iyo qalebi
orgazmis imitirebas, rom cdiloben da kata-ZaRlianad
yvelas, rom agebineben seqsis procesze.
mokled, yvelaferi idealurad iyo, ai zustad ise,
rogorc sasiyvarulo romanebSi, filmebSi an ocnebeb­
Si aris xolme aRwerili. xolo rac Seexeba Cems saqmes,
lodini, jeikob, Zalian didxans momiwia, isini vera da
168
Vako
 ver danayrdnen erTaneTiT, Tumca kulminaciis Semdeg,
situacia udides yvelaze cnobil klasikuri romanis
magvarad dasrulda.
orive maTganma raRac SxamiT savse flakonidan naxe­
var-naxevari xsnari dalia da erTmaneTze Caxutebulni
CemTan SexvedrisTvis moemzada.
bolos da bolos Cemi gamoCenis droc movida, CemTan
erTad ki maTi bolo dialogis. simarTle giTxra, Za­
lian didxans movundiT saubars, maT Zalian bevri hqon­
daT mosayoli. gairkva, rom, Turme gogona sxvaze iyo
usiyvarulod da ZaliT ganaTxovari, biWi ki sakuTar
cols, masTan pirvelive Ramis gatarebis Semdeg ver
itanda. Sen warmodgine danaxvac ki ar undoda Tavisi
colis, seqsze xom saerTod zedmetia saubari, eseni ki
Turme wlebis manZilzea erTmaneTis siyvaruliT itan­
jebodnen. sabolood, jeikob, maT aseT cxovrebas, isev
erTad sikvdili amjobines, ris Sedegadac Cavardnen
Cems xelSi.
mokled, dialogi davasruleT, rituali Cavatare da
zustad mag momentis mere mivxvdi, rom siyvaruls ra­
Rac gansakuTrebuli Zala aqvs. ai, zustad amitomac
minda, rom me da Sen jeikob, siyvarulze visaubroT.
_ da Cemgan konkretulad ra gainteresebs?
_ Seni azriT, rogori unda iyos siyvaruli?
_ iseTi sadac orive partniori erTmaneTs avsebs da
aZlierebs. jeikobma winadadeba daasrula da Cvens So­
ris isev siCume Camodga, is ubralod cxvir win iyure­
boda da gegoneboda arc ki apirebda raimes Tqmas.
_ morCi? eg iyo yvelaferi, risi Tqmac SegiZlia siy­
varulze?
_ ara, ubralod, Cemi pirveli siyvaruli gamaxsenda.
_ rogori iyo?

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Vako
 _ TviTon gogona?
_ egec da Tqveni urTierTobac.
_ urTierTobas rac Seexeba, eg iyo naTeli magaliTi
imis, Tu rogor ar unda moiqce Seyvarebuli adamiani,
magram ai gogos, rac Seexeba, is iyo nadmvili angelo­
zi. yavisferi Tvalebi, grZeli kulula Tmebi, Zalian
lamazi zeda tuCi, gasaocari Rimili da gansakuTre­
buli tani. simaRliT 175 santimetri iyo, ulamazesi,
Zalian fafuki mkerdiT da sakmaod gRZeli fexebiT.
gulwrfelad getyvi, modelis, an sporcmenis tani
namdvilad ar hqonda, Tumca Tavis 17 wlis asakSi ukve
zrdasruli qalis StabeWdilebas tovebda.
_ sad gaicani?
_ internetSi, ufro konkretulad ki FACEBOOK-Si.
erTi feiki aqaunTi mqonda, romlidanac gogoebis gac­
nobas vcdilobdi da amisTvis mTeli sqemac ki mqonda
momzadebuli. magaliTad, Tu gogo damainteresebda,
vimatebdi megobrebSi da vwerdi idiotur teqsts `bus
kvercxi ginda?~
_ buskercxio?
_ ho, ho, debilurad JRers vici, magram gogoe­
bis umravlesoba mpasuxobda, albaT imitom, rom ase­
Ti suleluri Setyobineba, raRac interess uqmnida.
mokled, gogoebi mipasuxebdnen da danarCeni ukve te­
qnkis saqme iyo. cota xans axlad gacnobil gogonebis
gamxiarulebas vcdilobdi, Semdeg ki sakuTar fotos
vugzavnidi, nu garegnobiT maSinac normalurze uke­
Tesi viyavi da xSir SemTxvevaSi am gogonebis mowone­
bulic vrCebodi.
Semdeg ki, ukve vxvdebodiT erTmaneTs ukve realo­
baSi, verTbodiT, vkocnaobdiT da sxva mraval saZa­
globas CavdiodiT. da bolos vSordebodiT.

170
Vako
 ase grZenldeboda, iqamde sanam ar davimate Cemi yo­
filic, sul raRac erTi foto edo da isic imdenad
cudi xarisxis iyo, ver gaarCevdi am gogonas saxes. mi­
vwere isev Cemi gansakuTrebuli fraza, man mipasuxa,
cota xans gavarTe, Semdeg Sexvedrazec movelpaarake
da ramodenime xanSi Sevxvdi kidec, simarTle giTxra
zustad arc maxsovs erTmaneTs gacnobidan erT Tu or
kviraSi SevxvdiT, magram is kargad maxsovs, rom imde­
nad gansxvavbulebi viyaviT erTmaneTisgan, gegoneboda
sxvadasxva planetebze vcxovrobdeT da memgoni, zus­
tad eg gvizidavda erTmaneTSi. iqamde sanam ar Sevxvdi,
yovel dRe masze azrebiT viRviZebdi da viZinebdi. Tvi­
Tonac ver vxvdebodi, Tu ra mWirda, maxsovs, rom sxva
gogoebsac aRar vxvdebodi xolme, ubralod imitom,
rom isini aRar warmoadgenda Cemi interesis sferos.
mokled, Cveni Sexvedris droc movida, me Cemi yvelaze
lamazi tansacmeli Cavicvi, mamaCemis sunamo davisxi da
saxlidan gavedi. ici Semdeg ra moxda?
_ ra, aba?
_ saaTnaxevari malodina! ufroswored saaTnaxevari
ki ara, magaze metic!
ar vici rogor SeiZleboda mase dagvianeba, kai xnis
dagegmil Sexvedraze, magram zustan am saqmeSi, Turme
profesionali yofila. jeikobs saxeze RimilTan er­
Tad patara gaRizianebac mosdevda, nuTu jerac bevrs
niSnavs is adamiani misTvis?
_ da rogor Caiara Tqvenma pirvelma Sexvedram?
_ hmm, arc kargad, arc cudad. simarTle giTxra,
pirvel Sexvedraze ar momewona, raRac nametani Cveu­
lebriv gogonas gavda, daJe obieqturad Sefasebac ar
SemeZlo, radgan roca Semxda tuCs Soris saWmlis nar­
Ceni, Tu kbilis pasta hqonda da paemanis dasrulebamde

171
Vako
Vako
 marto am narCens vuyurebdi. daJe isic vifiqre, rom
narCeni ki ara misi raRac nakli iyo da ver gavbede me­
Tqva moiwminde Tqo.
`me ra vicodi egeb sul mase hqonda?!~
ase vimarTleb dRemde Tavs.
megobaro tansacmelic ki pirveli SexvedrisTvis na­
metani ubralod ecva, TeTr windebze Cacmuli ubralo
Ria Sindisferi vansebi, lurji, Cveulebrivi jinsebi
da muqi lurji koplebiani maisuri.
gegoneboda saerTod ar emzadeboda arc CemTan Sex­
vedrisTvis da arc gareT gamosvlisTvis.
_ nuTu yvelaferi marTlac ase cudi iyo?
_ ara, sxvaTaSoris erTi kargi ram moxda.
_ ra, aba?
_ misi mkerdi davinaxe.
_ eg rogor pirvelive jerze gaxade? fu jeikob!
_ ara ubralod Tasmas ikravda da Ria maisuridan
gamouCnda, mec ra Tqma unda im asakisTvis atexilma
axalgazrdam, eg maisuri davamuRame da TiTqmis yvela
Semdeg Sexvedraze mis Cacmas vTxovdi, viTom Zalian
momwonda.
_ cudi biWi iyavi jeikob, Zalian cudi!
_ vici ho, maSin ver davkargavdi maseTi mkerdis da­
naxvis Sanss...
mokled, megobaro, ukve meore Sexvedridan Cems wi­
naSe sul sxva gogona gamoCnda, bevrad ufro lamazi,
mimzidveli da rac mTavaria eSxiani. erTmaneTi Zalian,
ai, Zalian male Segviyvarda da Sen warmoidgine Cveni
pirveli kocna 6 Tvis Seyvarebulobis Semdeg moxda.
siyvaruliT dabrmavebuls maqsimum loyaze Tu Seme­
Zlo misTvis mekocna.
_ da rato ase? gikrZalavda Tu?

172
Vako
 _ ara ras ambob, me debils meSinoda, megona, Tu vako­
cebdi gabrazdeboda da davkargavdi, Tumca erTxelac
gairkva,rom Turme, Zalian Sewuxebuli iyo im faqtiT,
rom me kocnasac ver vbedavdi da erTi suli hqonda
rodis vizamdi amas.
_ jeikob Sen winaT axsene, rom Tqveni urTierToba
naTeli magaliTia imis, Tu rogor ar unda moiqce Sey­
varebulma adamianmao da ras gulisxmobdi am sityveb­
Si?
_ eWvianobas, megobaro.
_ rao?
_ ho, ho. ar mogeCvena, eWvianobas vgulisxmobdi.
orive katastrofulad eWvianebi aRmovCndiT, erTma­
neTis raRac uxilav sazRvrebSi Caketvas vcdilobdiT
da samwuxarod, gamoucdelobis gamo verc vxvdebodiT
imas, Tu rogor zians vayenebdiT ara mxolod urTier­
Tobas, aramed sakuTar Tavebsac ki.
Sen warmoidgine, erT nabijsac ki ar vdgamdiT
ise,rom erTmaneTisTvis ar gveTqva da vai romelimes
gogo an biWTan megobruli urTierToba Segveqmna. mok­
led, Zalian SevtopeT da verc mivxvdiT amas.
erTi sityviT sam wliani gamanadgurebeli urTier­
Tobis Semdeg Cven marTlac davSordiT erTamneTs.me is
imdenad miyvarda, rom ganSorebac Zalian Znelad gada­
vitane. eqvs Tvian depresiaSi Cavvardi, Tumca droTa
ganmavlobaSi Zalian mniSvnelovani gakveTilebis gamo­
tanac SevZeli.
magaliTad, mivxvdi imas, rom arasdros ar unda gai­
xado Tavi sxvaze damokidebuli, TiTqos ra banaluria
da ra mixvedra amas unda ara?
magram Zalian bevri adamiani uSvebs am Secdomas, Sey­
varebisas, bevrs sakuTari Tavidan, mTeli fokusi maT

173
Vako
 partniorze gadaaqvT da isini uceb xdebian partnio­
ris emociebze, xasiaTze da sityvaze damokidebulni.
rac momavalSi, mxolod cudis momtani iqneba, cudSi ki
individualurobis dakargvas, eWvianobis gaZlierebas,
siyvarulis gavlas da mraval negatiur efeqts vgu­
lisxmob.
aseT urTierTobebs, megobaro, destruqciuli, igi­
ve gamanadguebeli urTierTobebi hqvia, modi yvela ze­
moT xsenebul efeqts odnav SevexoT.

siyvaruli-individualurobis dakargva

_ individualuroba adamianis zustad is mxarea,

romelsac warmateba moiTxovs. anu araindividualur
pirovnebas, arasdros ar SeeZleba warmatebis miRwe­
va, erTi elementaruli mizezis gamo, is ubralod ver
imoqmedebs sxvisi Tanxmobis gareSe, is verasdros ver
gadadgams im nabijs, romelsac sakuTari guli ubrZane­
bs, Tumca Tavisuflad Seasrulebs im moqmedebas, ro­
melsac partniori an sociumi daavalebs.
aqedan gamomdinare, ra sakvirvelia adamiani, rome­
lic sxvisi azrebiT cxovrobs, warmatebuli verasdros
ver iqneba.

174

Vako
 siyvaruli-eWvianoba

_ eWvianoba, megobaro,imdenad araswori midgomaa

urTierTobasTan, rom verc avxsni sityvebiT. roca
adamiani eWvianobs, mas eSinia partnioris dakargivs,
Ralatis, marto darCenis da sxva mravali ramis. es yve­
laferi ki, gamowveulia TviTdaujereblobis da saku­
Tari fasis ar codnidan gamomdinare.
yvela am zemoTxsenebul SiSTan brZola megobaro Za­
lian advilia, Sen (adamianma) ubralod unda gaiazro:
I. am adamianis (partnioris) gareSe, cxovreba Se­
saZlebelia, mis gacnobamde da masTan daaxlovebamde,
xom icxovre raRacnairad, ara?
II. dedamiwaze Tqven oris garda kidev 7.53 miliar­
di adamiani arsebobs, amitomac damijere, siberemde
marto darCena romc moindomo, ver SeZleb. anu mar­
toobisgan ar mokvdebi.

III. eWvianoba, siyvaruli ar aris.

megobaro es sami ram, gamocdilebaa, romelic Zalian
Zviri damijda, Tumca cxovrebis bolomde gamomadga.

siyvaruli-akrZalvebi

_ akrZalvebi Zalian xSiri movlenaa destruqciuli

urTierTobisas. Cven vukrZalavT erTmaneTs megobreb­
Tan sadme wasvlas, axali megobrebis SeZenas, socialur
qselebSi aqtiurobas, mokled, yvelafers rasac, Cveni
fantazia miwvdeba an SiSi Seexeba. Cven imdenad gveSi­
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Vako
 nia erTmaneTis dakargvis, rom xels vuSliT erTmaneTs
winsvlaSi, ganviTarebaSi da zogadad cxovrebaSic.
yvela Seyvarebulma unda gaiTvaliswinos is, rom
SeuZlebelia dRevandel realobaSi yvelasgan Caiketo,
xalxTan urTierTobebi Sewyvito da amave dros bednie­
ri an warmatebuli iyo. adamiani xom bunebiT Tavisufa­
li arsebaa da, rogorc ar unda ecado misi gamoketva,
ra mizezic ar unda miusajo, iqneba es siyvaruli, Tu
nacistebis banaki, misi erTaderTi saqcieli iqneba is,
rom adamiani ibrZolebs TavisuflebisTvis. jeikobi
isev gaCerda, TiTqos raRac mniSvnelovans ixsenebda,
imas, rac faseuli iyo ara mxolod am dialogisTvis
aramed TviTon jeikobisaTvis...
_ me da Cemi pirveli siyvaruli, imdenad CaviketeT
samyarosgan, rom arc erTma ar vicodiT, Tu ra po­
tenciali imaleboda CvenSi. dRes, rogorc xedav me
sakmaod warmatebuli pirovneba var, is ki Zalian cno­
bili advokatia.
Cven orivem SevZeliT sakuTari Tavis aRmoCena, Cven
orivem SevZeliT imis danaxva, Tu ramdenad Zlieri ada­
mianebi vyofilvarT, magram es moxda mxolod Cveni gan­
Sorebis Semdeg.
_ marTlac, ramdeni rame gaqvs saTqmeli mag mandi­
losanze, ara jeikob?
_ megobaro, memgoni, Tavis pirvel siyvarulze sauba­
ri, yvelas gauCereblad SeuZlia.
_ marTali xar, magram kargi iqneboda, Tu gamagebi­
nebdi, rogori unda iyos namdvili siyvaruli da ro­
gor unda moiqces xolme wyvili, idealuri Tu ara,
stabiluri urTierTobis misaRwevad mainc?!
_ wyvilma, samudamod unda uaryos da akontrolos
is negatiuri Tvisebebi, rac winaT vaxsene. isini xalxi­

176

Vako
 gan gamoketvaze da erTaneTis dakargvis SiSze ki ara,
TviTgaumjobesebaze unda iyvnen orientirebulni. am
SemTxvevaSi, roca partniori TviTgaumjobesebiTaa
dakavebuli da igives Tavis sayvarel admaianisganac
xedavs, is ivseba energiiT, motivaciiT da ZalebiT,
kidev ufro meti miRwevebis misaRebad. elementaru­
lia, ara?
Tu raRacas akeTeb da Seni meuRle am dros ukmayo­
filebas iCens, guli givardeba, an amave saqmianobaze,
an TiTon meuRleze. xolo, maSin, roca meuRle mxars
giWers da sakuTari winsvliT magaliTsac gaCvenebs, Sen
ivsebi motivaciiT. zustad amitom, unda iyos orive
partniori TviTgaumjobesebaze, sakuTari Tavis aRmo­
Cenaze da sakuTar miznebze orientirebuli. principSi,
zustad es aris bednieri sasiyvarulo urTierTobis
patara saidumlo, xolo yvelaferi danarCeni, ukve am
wesis Semdeg gamomdnareobs.
modi, cotac xSirad daSvebul Secdomebze vilapa­
rakoT da Semdeg sxva Temazec gadavideT.
_ kargi, jeikob, gismen.
_ ai, magaliTad, Zalian xSiria, roca gogonebi jer
kidev Seyvarebulobamde Zalian ukareba da `dastoini~
adamianis rols TamaSoben, magram gaTxovdebian Tu ara,
ukareba adamianidan, egreve mouSorebel wurbelebad
iqcevian. isini xSirad meuRles erTi nabijis wesierad
gadadgmasac ar acdian, yvelgan kudSi dayvebian, yo­
velTvis da yovelwams exutebian, mokled, zed ewepebian
Tavis qmars. es Cemo kargo, imdenad didi Secdomaa, rom
verc warmoidgen, kaci, romelic amden xans icnobda
ukareba gogonas, sruliad uecrad Rebulobs mouSore­
bel da momabezrebel arsebas, romlisTvisac saerTod
aRar aris saWiro brZola. is Rebulobs mTlianad gax­

177
Vako
 snil qals, rac niSnavs imas, rom mizani miRweulia da
Sedegad kacs uqreba elementaruli interesi am qali­
sadmi. Semdeg ukve iwyeba Ralati, uxeSoba, gaciebuli
urTierTba, gadis siyvaruic, gulis tkivili, Cxubebi,
gineba, cema-tyepa a.S da a.S.
Tumca ra Tqma unda ara mxolod qalebi uSveben aseT
Secdomebs, aramed mamakacebic, ai, magaliTad, yvela­
ze xSiri Secdoma romelsac col moyvanili mamakacebi
uSveben, es aris moduneba. ubralod daakvirdi visac
ginda, yvela kaci absoluturad yvela, iyenebs Tavis
maqsimalur SesaZleblobebs imisaTvis, rom qalis guli
moipovos, isini leqsebs weren, saCuqrebs Cuqnian, bevrs
xumroben, Tavs ukeTesad uvlian, mokled, aTasobiT ma­
nipulacias Cadian oRondac, rom SeZlon qalis gulis
damsaxureba, magram es yvelaferi icvleba miznis mi­
Rwevis Semdeg. anu, Tu kacma SeZlo qalis Sepyroba is
aRarc saCuqrebs Cuqnis Tavis mandilosans, aRarc cdi­
lobs Tavis mowonebas, mokled, modunebis stadiaSi ga­
dadis da zustad eg xdeba bevri awyobili urTierTbis
daSlis mizezi.
_ ki magram, Tu kacma ukve SeZlo qalis Sepyroba,
bunebrivi ar iqneba odnav moduneba da sakuTari Zalisa
Tu energiis sxva sferoSi gamoyeneba?
_ raRac mxriv ki, bunebrivia da logikuricaa, magram
es bunebrivoba kargis momtani ver aris, mxolod imi­
tom, rom siyvaruli, megobaro, moqmedebaSia da modu­
nebis Sedegad, moqmedebac Cerdeba, amas ki, siyvarulis
gasvla mohyveba.
amitomac im kkacs, visac mudmivad zrdadi da Zlieri
grZnobebi unda Tavis urTierTbaSi, moduneba ki ara
`brZolis~ gagrZeleba mouwevs, man ar unda Sewyvitos
arc saCuqrebis Cuqeba, arc gogonas gakvirveba Tu ga­

178

Vako
 cineba, arc siurprizebis keTeba da yvelaferi is, ra­
sac gogonas dapyrobamde akeTebda.
nu ra Tqma unda yvelaferi zomis farlebSi unda
iyos. zedmeti, megobaro yvelaferi cudia.

xalxTan urTierToba-erTguleba

_ kargi, jeikob, eg yvelaferi ase Tu ise gasagebia.

axla modi, xalxisTvis Zalian mniSvnelovan Temas Seve­
xoT. erTgulebaze risi Tqma SegiZlia?
_ hmm, da ufro konkretulad, rom miTxra? erTgu­
leba siyvarulSi, Tu zogadad yvela sakiTxSi?
_ megobrobaSi, siyvarulSi, TanamSromlobaSi, bi­
znesSi, zogadad yvelaferSi.
_ Zalian kargi, Tu zogadad erTgulebaze unda vi­
saubroT, me valdebuli var daviwyo es Tema, sakuTari
Tavis mimarT erTgulebaze saubriT.
Sen warmoidgine, Zalian xSiria, roca adamiani gare
movlenebiT ufro dainteresebulia vidre sakuTari Si­
nagani mdgomareobiT. am SemTxvevaSi vgulisxmob imas,
rom xalxi yvelgan da yvelasgan erTgulebas iTxovs
maSin, roca TviTon, sakuTar Tavs Ralatoben. colze
moRalate qmrebi, romlebic sakuTar arCevans Rala­
toben da xsnian amas ise, TiTqos erTi da igive xorci
male bezrdebaT, sakuTari colebisgan iTxoven erTgu­
lebas.
aseve gaTxovili qalebic, romlebic sxva kacTan
wvebian da mizezad qmris uyuradRebobas ixsenieben,
ubralod Ralatoben sakuTar arCevans, anu sakuTar

179
Vako
 Tavs. aseve sakuTari Tavis erTgulebaSi, megobaro, me
vgulisxmob, erTgulebas sityvebis mimarT, albaT ici
ramdenad xSiria gacemuli da ausrulebeli pirobebi,
Seusrulebeli saqmeebi da mravali sxva ram, rac si­
tyvisadmi erTgulebas ekuTxvnis. mapatie, magram, Tu
Tqvi raRac, ca, rom Tavze Camogengres, mainc unda Se­
asrulo. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, TviTon ar daafaseb
sakuTar sityvebs da ubralod moraluri ufleba ar
geqneba, sxvisgan moiTxovo Seni sityvis dafaseba.
sakuTar TavTan erTguleba, megobaro, Cveni part­
niorebidanac gamomdinareobs, memgoni ar gagikvirdeba,
Tu getyvi, rom is adamiani vinc sakuTar Tavs afasbs,
ar dawveba yovel SemxvedrTan.
amiT ici risi Tqma minda? Cvens dros Zalian bevria
iseTi adamiani vinc mzad aris dawves imasan visTanac
eg SesaZlebeli iqneba. aseT xalxs ar ainteresebs arc
sakuTari roli sawolSi, arc emociebi da arc Sinagani
grZnobebi. me piradad mqonia periodi, roca mzad viya­
vi yvela gacnobil gogonasTan seqsiT davkavebuliyavi
da merwmune, aseTi ugrZnobi seqsis mere, sakuTari Ta­
vis mimarT raRacnair zizRs vgrZnobdi, magram arc es
ar maCerebda da sabolood mivedi iqamde, rom aRarc
TviTdajereba gamaCnda, aRarc sxvisi an sakuTari Tavis
dafaseba. mokled, bevri negatiuri efeqti ganvicade
am TemasTan agdebuli damokidebulebis gamo. megoba­
ro, mesmis, Sen SeiZleba gagiCndes kiTxva, Tu ra Sua­
Sia TviTdajereba aseT urTierTobebTan da me getyvi,
rom Cvens organizmSi yvelaferi erTmaneTze damoki­
debulia. seqsi TviTdajerebasTan, TviTdajereba war­
matebasTan da a.S da ai, zustad amitom unda ecados
adamianma, rom cxovrebis yvela sferoSi iyos warmate­
buli, da ara mxolod romelime erTSi.

180
Vako
 Tu Sen biznesSi xar warmatebuli da amave dros
col-Svils saWiro yuradRebas ver aqcev, Sen ubralod
ver geqneba sulieri simTele. Sedegad Sen mudmivad sx­
vadasxva negativTan datakeba mogiwevs.
imedia kargad da gasagebad vxsni.
megobaro, modi kidev gavimeoreb!
erTguleba pirvel rigSi sakuTari Tavis mimarT
unda gqondes da mxolod amis Semdeg SegeZleba sxva sa­
qmisa Tu adamianis mimarT erTguleba. amaze mets, verc
verafers getyvi. amitomac modi axla parazitul ur­
TierTbebze visaubroT.

xalxTan urTierToba-parazitebi

_ parazituli urTierToba, arsebobs cxovrebis

absoliturad yvela sferoSi. biznesi, siyvaruli, me­
gobroba, naTesaoba, mokled, yvelgan sadac xalxTan
urTierToba gviwevs. ai, magaliTad: parazituli ur­
TierTobaa is, rodesac erTi adamiani mudam gascems
(grZnobebs, emociebs, fuls, saqmes, dros, erTgulebas,
energias da a.S), sanacvlod ki arafers ar Rebulobs,
an Tu Rebulobs rames, imasac milionSi erTxel. sx­
vanairad am yvelafers, arasamarTliani urTierTobac
SegviZlia davarqvaT da Sen warmoidgine aseT urTier­
TobaSi Zalian bevrs aqvs Setopili. aseTia calmxrivi
siyvaruli.
Cemo kargo, axalgazrdobaSi me myavda megobari, ro­
melic wlebis ganmavlobaSi Seyvarebuli iyo erT gogo­
naze. rogor ar cdilobda am gogos gulis Sepyrobas,

181
Vako
 magram ar gamosdioda. Cemi megobari wlebis ganmavlo­
baSi mxolod `gascemda~ sanacvlod ki arafers, garda
gulis tkivilisa ar Rebulobda. es aris naTeli maga­
liTi parazituli urTierTobisa, urTierTobis, rome­
lic orive personaJs, Cems megobars da im gogonasac,
bevr tkivilsa da diskomforts aniWebda.
_ orives?
_ ho, ho, orives, megobaro, aq xom mxolod Cems me­
gobarze ar aris saubari?
am istorias meore mxarec yavs, iseTi sadac gogonas
`aekida~ biWi, romelic mas ar uyvars, Tavisi xasiaTi­
dan, codnidan Tu gemovnebidan gamomdinare. magram es
gogona mainc im maqsimums akeTebs, rac axla mas Seu­
Zlia. anu, is dgeba megobris poziciaSi da rCeba mand
wlebis manZilze. mokled, friendzone-Si agdebs Cems me­
gobars, radgan ubralod ar SeuZlia siyvaruliT Sexe­
dos mas da paralelurad sakuTari Tavic ver mihyavs
iqamde, rom saerTod Sewyvitos urTierToba am biWTan.
merwmune ,am dros mxolod biWi ki ara gogoc itan­
jeba, Tan itanjeba Zalian magrad. is Tavisuflebis ra­
Rac did nawilsac ki kargavs. nu Cemi megobris SemTxve­
vaSi maTi parazituli urTierToba, am gogonas sxvaze
gaTxovebiT dasrulda.
_ Semdeg rogor moiqca Seni megobari?
_ idealurad!
gaicno axali gogo, Seiyvara is da zustad igive si­
tuaciaSi aRmoCnda.
The end.
samwuxarod yvela istoria kargad ar mTavrdeba.
memgoni marto es magaliTic kargad Cvenebs parazi­
tuli urTerTobebis arss, amitomac erTi, risi dama­
tebac SemiZlia es aris is, rom yovelTvis adamianzea

182
Vako
 damokidebuli, jansaR Tu parazitul urTierTobebSi
monawileobis arCevans gaakeTebs.
gadavideT axal Temaze?
_ rogorc ityvi, jeikob, Tema Sen airCie.

ideebi

jeikobma mis saxlSi gadasvla mTxova, mec Txov­

na avusrule da sul male Cven, isev grZel, naxatebiT
morTul derefanSi aRmovCndiT. jeikobma erT-erT ka­
reze mimiTiTa da mTxova Sevsuliyavi. mec kari gamova­
Re, fexi Sevdgi da namdvili giJi profesoris labora­
toriaSi amovye Tavi.
oTaxis SuaSi, uzarmazari magida idga, romelzedac
savaraudod jeikobi muSaobda, magidaze ki aSjarad
jeikobis, jerac dausrulebeli proeqtebi instrumen­
tebTan erTad eyara. rogorc Cans, jeikobs am proeqte­
bis dasrulebaSi xeli CemTan Sexvedram SeuSala. oTa­
xSi magidis garda instumentebis kuTxe, kompiuteris
magida, raTmqaunda kompiuteriTurT da kidev mravali
sxva danadgari elaga. xolo oTaxis kedlebi, sxvadasxva
naxatebiT da naxazebiT iyo morTuli. maleve jeikob­
ma yvela maTgani damaTvalierebina, Tavisi namuSevrebi
maCvena da amixsna, rom axali teqnologiebis gamogone­
biT aris dainteresebuli. ase vTqvaT: es misi erT-erTi
hobi aris.
_ megobaro, Sen warmoidgine, me vici Zalian advili
gza axali ideebis mofiqrebisTvis.
yvelaferi daiwyo Cems mier imis gaazrebiT, rom
yvelaferi, rac Cems irgvliv aris, skami, kompuiteri,

183
Vako
 saxli, fanjara, karada, iataki da sxva mravali ram, ise­
Tive xalxis Seqmnilia, rogoric var me.
am gaazrebas ki mohyva daintereseba elementaruli
kiTxviT, rogor gamoigones es yvelaferi?
simarTle giTxra, iqamde, vidre am kiTxva seriozu­
lad Cavujdebodi, megona, rom umravlesoba gamogoneba
(teqnologia Tu raime sxva), aucileblad gauTvlelad
da daufiqreblad Tu iqmenoda xolme, da marTlac Za­
lian bevri ram kacobriobis istoriaSi, Seqmnila sru­
liad uecrad.
ai, magaliTad, mobiluris TamaSi `2048~: es aris Za­
lian cnobili, erT dros trendSi myofi TamaSi, ro­
melic sruliad uecrad, erT-erTi programistis (ga­
briel Cirelis) programirebaze varjiSis periodSi
Seiqmna.
rogorc TamaSis Semqmneli ambobs, is saerTod ar
gegmavda TamaSebis industriaSi Sesvlas da arc api­
rebs momavalSi raime TamaSebis gamoSvebas. (bodiSiT
taftalogiisTvis). aseve uecari iyo mikrotalRovani
Rumelis Seqmna: kompania Raytheon-Si momuSave ameri­
kelma inJinerma SeamCnia, rom mikrotalRur gamosxi­
vebas SeuZlia produqtis gaTboba, erT-erTi legendis
Tanaxmad, peri spenserma, radarTan muSaobis dros, Ta­
vis jibeSi gamdnari Sokoladi aRmoaCina da zustad es
gaxda mikrotalRuri Rumelis Seqmnisa da dapatente­
bis mizezic.
aseve SevxedoT yvelasaTvis cnobil isaak niutonis
da vaSlis dacemis ambavs, ris Sedegadac Seiqmna mso­
flios mizidulobis kanoni. mokled, megobaro, me imis
Tqma minda, rom aseTi ambebi legendebi, Tu realurad
momxdari faqtebi Zalian, ai, Zalian xSirad gvxvdeba
kacobriobis istoriaSi da zustad amas Cven yvela Se­

184

Vako
 vyavarT did SecdomaSi. Cven gvgonia, rom ramis gamo­
sagoneblad adamians mainc da mainc genialuri inte­
leqti unda hqondes da zustad am azris gamo, arc ki
vcdilobT raimes TviTon gamogonebas. an gvgonia, rom
yvelaferi gamarTlebaze da sworad arCeul momentzea
damokidebuli.
megobaro, bevri, rom ar gelaprako, arc genialu­
ri tvinia saWiro raime axali ideis mosafiqreblad,
arc sworad damjdari momenti. realobaSi yvelaferi
ufro advilia, arsebobs ramodenime da Zalian advili
gza axali ideebis mosafiqreblad, daJe im ideebisac,
romlebic axal teqnologiebs exeba.
me magaliTad viyeneb sul or variants:
I. es aris erTi da igive kiTxvis mravaljer gameor­
eba.
`ra gamovigono?~. mokled, roca veZeb axal ideas,
gauCereblad vimeoreb am kiTxvas 5-10 wuTis ganmavlo­
baSi da ideac avtomaturad momdis.
II. aseve SeiZleba, ori an ramodenime gansxvavebuli
ramis gaerTianeba.
am meTodis daxmarebiT me Zalian bevri ramis mofi­
qreba SevZeli, magaliTad me warmovidgine Cveulebri­
vi fexsacmeli+gemis propeleri, ris Sedegadac mivedi
wyalqveSa botebis ideamde.
anu ubralod aerTianeb or, an sam, an oTx, an aT
erTmaneTisgan TiTqos da radikalurad gansxvavebul
nivTs da Rebulob axal ideas.
_ rogor Tu wyalqveSa botebi, jeikob?
jeikobma, erT-erTi rkinis ujridan, raRac fexsa­
cmeli gamoiRo da xelSi damaWerina. erTi SexvedriT
Cveulebrivi fexsacmeli iyo, Tumca Zirze erTi pro­
pepeli hqonda damagrebuli, propeleridan quslisken

185
Vako
 raRac kabelebi gadioda, romlebic savaraudod energo
batareas uerTdeboda. amave dros, jeikobs xelSi erTi
primitiuli pulti eWira. man CarTvis Rilaks daaWira
da am propelerma egreve moZraoba daiwyo, cota xan­
Si jeikobma botebis muSaobis prnicipic amixsna, yvela
detalSi gamarkvia da am ideamde misvlis istoriac mo­
miyva, TviTon idea Zalian elementaruli da primitiu­
li iyo. ubralod daamagreb propelers fexsacmelze,
Caicmev da gacurav ramdensac ginda. Tumca am Temaze
saubrisas, jeikobma kidev erTi Zalian mniSvnelovani
ram miTxra:
_ megobaro, ideis mofiqrebisas logika unda gavTi­
SoT.
aq unda imuSaos mxolod fantaziis unarma da au­
cileblad unda vicodeT is, rom ar aqvs mniSvneloba,
Tu ramdenad absurduli idea mogvafiqrdeba. gaiTva­
liswine, Tu ramis gonebaSi warmosaxva SegiZlia, eseigi
misi realobad gadaqcevac SesaZlebelia.
_ gasagebia, jeikob. modi, axla es Temac SevajamoT
da Semdegze gadavideT.
_ kargi. jer daviwyoT imiT, rom ideebis mofiqrebis
mravali gza arsebobs, Tumca me mxolod or maTgans
viyeneb, 1. es aris erTi da igive kiTxvis mravaljer
gameoreba, iqamde sanam pasuxi ar mogiva.
2. es aris ramodenime nivTisa, Tu sxva raimes erTma­
neTTan gaerTianeba Cvens warmosaxvaSi. Tu ginda war­
moidgine viTom gemsa da burTs aerTianeb erTmaneTs
Soris da SesaZloa axali Zalian saintereso idea da­
bado.
marTalia, me moviyavne magaliTi gamomgoneblis Sexe­
dulebidan, Tumca am ori xerxis gamoyeneba cxovrebis
sxva sferoebSic SeiZleba, iqneba es biznesi, medicina

186

Vako
 Tu kompiuteruli TamaSebi. aseve megobaro, kargi iqne­
ba Tu Sevexebi im Temas, sadac ideebi TavisiT modis
da Cven mxolod is Ra gvrCeba, rom isini realobad va­
qcioT.
_ kargi, jeikob, oRond, rac SeiZleba mokled, gTxov!
_ vrclad, romc mindodes ar gamomiva. megobaro,
odesme Tu ginaxavs xalxi, romlebsac yovelTvis axali
ideebi mosdiT? ai, yovel wams raRac axali, rom afi­
qrdebaT xolme?
_ ki, rogor ara. egeTi xalxi umeteswilad Zalian
did warmatebas aRweven.
_ ki egrea, da ici, ris gamo xdeba eg?
_ ara.
_ isini pouloben Tavis sayvarel saqmes da zus­
tad aqedan gamomdinare, maT yovelTvis mosdiT axali,
ufro da ufro genialuri ideebi, vidre sxva xalxs ama­
ve sferoSi.
_ da jeikob, arsebobs gza sayvareli saqmis mosaZeb­
nad?
_ ki da zustad eg iqneba Cveni Semdegi Temac.

sayvareli saqme

jeikobma ezoSi erT adgilas gadasvla mTxova, rad­

gan misi TqmiT, Cvens axal Temaze sasaubrod, aucile­
blad unda gvenaxa misi sasaxlis msaxurebi da cota xans
maTze Tvali unda gvedevna, ufroswored msaxurbze ki
ara, erT-erT maTganze. mec ra Tqma unda ar SevewinaaR­
mdege da maleve jeikobTan erTad, misi mebaRis samuSao

187
Vako
 adgilze gadavedi da mis saqmianobas davuwye dakvir­
veba, es iyo jeikobze bevrad ufrosi mamakaci, WaRara
TmebiT da wverebiT, Tumca asakis da miuxedavad is Cem­
Tan Sexvedras namdvilad ar Cqarobda.
Semdegi ramdenime wuTis ganmavloaSi, am kacis saq­
mianobas vuyurebdi. is TiTo nabijs sixaruliT dgamda,
yvelafers gadamdebi bavSvuri enTuaziazmiT akeTebda
da ra Tmqa unda Rmiliani saxis gamoyenebac ar aviwy­
deboda.
_ albaT ukve mixvdi, Tu ratom mogiyvane amis sana­
xavad, ara?
_ ki, jeikob.
_ ukve, meore aTwleuli sruldeba, rac es kaci Cem­
Tan muSaobs da yoveli misi samuSao dRe aseTi enTu­
ziazmiT mimdinareobs. rac ar unda dro gavides, rac ar
unda Zneli samuSao iyos Sesasrulebeli, is arasdros
ar iRleba da ar kargavs muSaobis stimuls. principSi
imdenad did siamovnebas Rebulobs Tavisi samsaxuri­
dan, rom mis saqmes muSaobasac ver daarqmev.
_ jeikob, rasac me vxedav, kacs Tavisi asakisTvis
naoWebic ki minimaluri raodenobiT aqvs. gegoneba mTe­
li cxovreba gayinul kameraSi, gayinul mdgomareobaSi
gaatara da magitomacaa aseTi Senaxulio.
_ ara megobaro, gayinuli marTlac ar yofila, Tum­
ca misi axalgazrdobis saidumlo, mxolod da mxo­
lod misi sayvareli saqmis povnaSia da meti araferi.
ufroswored sayvareli saqmis povnidan gamomdinarea.
rogor ggonia ramdenad xSiria es movlena?
_ mgonia ki ara vici, rom xalxis umravlesoba ver
itans TavianT samsaxursa, Tu profesias.
_ ki, egrea, maT sZulT is, rasac akeTeben da miuxe­
davad am siZulvilisa, mainc agrZeleben Tavis saqmia­

188
Vako
 nobas. maT sZulT Tavisi ufrosebi, Tavisi kolegebi,
ofisi, yvelaferi, rac maT samsaxurs exeba, magram isi­
ni mainc ar toveben mas. igoneben aTasobiT mizezs, Tu
ratom ver datoveben samsaxurs da Tavisi nebiT iqce­
ven Tavs mosiarule monebad. aseve maT sZulT yvela is
adamiani vinc aseTi wesebiT cxovrebas ar apirebs da
eZebs an poulobs Tavis sayvarel saqmesa da amasTan
erTad bednierebas.
ai aseT xalxs, mapatie, magram veraferi uSvelis, maT
ukve wlebis win airCies tanjuli da zizRiT savse cxo­
vreba. Cven SevZlebT mxolod imaTze daxmarebas, vinc
eZebs Tavis sayvarel saqmes da ai zustad am xalxisTis
maqvs mSvenieri da umtkivneuli varianti, romelsac
`usmine sakuTar ideebs~ davarqvi.
jeikobs sicili autyda da Cems kiTxvaze, Tu ra aci­
nebda, mipasuxa.
_ meti maStaburobisTvis da damajreblobisTvis es
saxeli axla movifiqre.
mokled, megobaro. me midna gesaubri im Sinagan gr­
Znobebze, romlebsac sayvarel saqmis keTebisas ganvi­
cdiT.
_ jer ver mivxvdi ras gulisxmob, jeikob, ukeT ami­
xseni, Tu SeiZleba.
_ kargi. anu, me minda gelaparako TviTon procesze,
minda Signidan Sevexo am Temas da imedi maqvs, aseTi
midgoma bevrad ufro saintereso iqneba, vidre amave
Temis garedan aRwera.
_ kargi, jeikob, yuradRebiT gismen.
_ `usmine sakuTar ideebs~ yvelaze morgebuli saxe­
lia am TemisTvis da agixsni ratomac. sakuTar saqme­
ze Seyvarebul adamians, mudmivad TviTon am saqmesTan
dakavSirebuli ideebi mosdis, ideebi, romlebic saqmis

189
Vako
 ukeT keTebas, xarisxis gaumjobesebas, anu, amave saqmis
yvelanairad gaumjobesebas exeba.
ai, zustad am ideebSi aris mTavari saidumlo. albaT
ar gagikvirdeba, Tu getyvi, rom Cveulebrivi adamia­
ni, romelic ar aris dakavebuli sayvareli saqmiT, arc
iqneba dainteresebuli amave saqmis gaumjobesebaSi, Se­
sabamisad mas arc gaumjobesebis ideebi ar mouva.
_ jeikob!..
_ kargi, kargi, jerac gaugebrad JRers ara? modi,
maSin Cemi cxovrebidan, kidev erT istorias mogiyvebi.
es istoria isev Cems pirvel bizness exeba, anu avto­
samrecxaos.
_ gismen.
_ mokled, winaswar vityvi da albaT ukve Senc mix­
vdi, rom avtosamrecxaos daxmarebiT me SevZeli Cemi
sayvareli saqmis povna. konkretulad ki, Cemi sayvare­
li saqme gamomdinareobs axali brendebis Seqmnisgan,
sadac sakuTari kreativis maqsimalurad gamoyenebaa
saWiro.
Cem pirvel biznesSi megobaro, rogorc ukve giTxa­
ri, idea-ideaze momdioda. wamiT dasveneba ar mindoda
da yvelafers TiTqos winaswar vxedavdi. imdenad gar­
Tuli viyavi am saqmiT, rom saerTod arafris keTeba ar
miWirda da yvelaferi advilad gamomdioda...
Tumca es periodi maleve damTavrda, me avtosamre­
cxao davtove da sakmaod didxniani Sesveneba aviRe. am
Sesvenebis periodSi, me mqonda Zalian bevri dro swa­
vlisTvis, TviTgaumjobesebisaTvis da zogadad saku­
Tari Tavis sxvanairad danaxvisTvis, da ai, zustad am
periodSi viswavle sakuTari ideebze mosmena. axla agi­
xsni, rogor moxda eg: me, ra Tqma unda pirveli da­

190
Vako
 marcxebis Semdeg momiwia Zalian bevri fiqri imaze, Tu
ra biznesis wamowyeba SemeZlo momavalSi. nu marTlac
Zalian bevri varianti mqonda ganxiluli. me vfiqrobdi
gayidvebis sferoze, maRaziebze, restornebze, binebis
dRiurad gaqiravebaze da TiTo am biznesis momavlis
warmodgenasac vcdilobdi. ra Tqma unda masStaburi
momavlis. magaliTad, Tu vfiqrobdi produqtis maRa­
ziis gaxsnaze, vcdilobdi ara mxolod erT, aramed as
an aTas maRaziaze mefiqra. da zustad aqedan gamomdi­
nare iyo, rom masStaburi azrovnebisa da warmosaxvis
daxmarebiT momdioda esa Tu is ideebi, amave masSta­
buri ideebis realizebaSi. anu, Tu momividoda bevri
idea, Tu SevZlebdi ama Tu im biznesis masStaburi moma­
vlis da Cemi qmedebebis warmodgenas, maSin vxvdebodi,
rom ai es, marTlac Cemi saqmea.
zustad maSin ratomRac avtosamrecxaos saerTod
ar ganvixilavdi da sxva biznesebs Soris vifiqre, rom
yvelaze kargi iqneboda binebis dRiurad gaqiravebis
dawyeba. simarTle giTxra, sakmaod perspeqtiuli da
wynari biznesi Canda, internetSi informaciis Zebnisas
ki, am saqmianobis mxolod dadebiT Sefasebebs vxvde­
bodi. mokled, ramodenime kviris ganmavlobaSi mivedi
azramde, rom es biznesi, sakmaod advili samarTavi, mu­
dmivad zrdadi popularobis da stabiluri Semosavlis
idealuri magaliTia. Tan amave dros dedaCemsac (Cems
pirvel investors) Zalian moswons, rac CemTvis Zalian
bevrs niSnavda. sabolood me miviRe gadawyvetileba
wamomewyo es biznesi da daviwye misTvis mzadeba. Tvi­
Ton mzadebis periodi sakmaod kargad gadioda, Tumca
iyo erTi sakmaod didi niuansi, ramac mTel Cems moma­
valze imoqmeda, niuansi ki Sedgeboda elementaruli

191
Vako
 sibrmavisgan. me ver vxedavdi sakuTar Tavs am biznes­
Si, Tu rame idea momividoda, is aucileblad biznesis
sxva sferoebs exeboda da yvela Cem TavSi mosul ideas
aerTianebda erTi konkretuli azri `roca am saqmidan
meqneba stabiluri Semosavali, egreve daviwyeb sxva bi­
zness~
eg iyo da eg. me marTla ar warmomedgina sakuTari
Tavi da sakuTari momavali am saqmianobaSi, hoda er­
Txelac varskvlavebiT savse cis qveS ocnebebis dros,
daviwye Cemi momavali avtosamrecxaoebis warmodgena,
es ocnebis saRamo arasdros ar damaviwydeba. me Tavi­
suflad SemeZlo warmomedgina msoflios ruka, rome­
lic patara nemsebiT, Cems aTasobiT avtosamrecxaoebis
adgilebs maniSnebda, me SemeZlo warmomedgina TviTon
stili yvela avtosamrecxaosi, warmomedgina maTi po­
pularoba, SemeZlo gameTvala brendis Semqnis proce­
si da mravali sxva detali, ai zustad maSin gaviazre
megobaro is, rom Tu adamians ama Tu im saqmianobis
warmosaxvisas mosdis Zalian bevri idea, ai zustad eg
aris misi sayvareli saqme, ar aqvs mniSvneloba ra pro­
fesiasa, Tu raime sxvaze aris saubari.
Tu Sen ginda stilistoba da mag saqmeze fiqrisas
mogdis ideebi, magaliTad, sruliad axali varcxnilo­
bis SeqmnasTan dakavSirebiT, eseigi Sen xedav sakuTar
momavals mag saqmeSi, eseigi eg iqneba Seni sayvareli
saqme.
xolo Tu momRerlis karieraze fiqrob da amave
dros mogdis yvelaze kreatiuli klipis gadaRebis
ideebi, esec Seni saqmea. ubralod, usmine sakuTar
ideebs, Tu ideebi mogdis, arCevanSi ar Secdebi.

192

Vako
 me, megobaro, ra Tmqa unda maqsimalurad Sevamci­
re es Tema da maqsimalurad gasagebi eniT vecade mis
axsnas. mets me ver davamateb, radgan ubralod wreze
momiwevs siaruli. movrCi megobaro. gaqvs kiTxvebi?
_ kiTxvebi ara da Txovna maqvs.
_ gismen.
_ Seajame yvelaferi, rac aqamde Tqvi da axal Tema­
zec gadavalT.
_ kargi, SevajamoT...
mokled, ar aqvs mniSvneloba, Tu ra saqmianobas gani­
xilav samomavlod, iqneba es biznesis romelime sfero,
blogeroba Tu damlagebloba. Sen yovelTvis unda us­
mino sakuTar ideebs.
anu, Tu Sen raime saqmeSi Tavis warmodgenisas mogdis
ideebi amave saqmis ukeT Sesrulebisa, vidre es stan­
dartuli gziT xdeba, an Tundac mogdis ideebi amave
saqmis gigantur masStabebamde miyvanisa, eseigi zustad
eg iqneba Seni sayvareli saqme. aqedan gamomdinarem,
rom imoqmedo, Sen mudmivad aarideb Tavs arasasurvel
da SecdomebiT SerCeul saqmianobebs. aseve Sen ar mo­
giwevs 5-6 profesiis an biznesis gamocvla sayvareli
saqmis da masTan erTad bednierebis sapovnelad.
_ ukeT verc ityodi jeikob. ukve SegviZlia axal
Temaze gadasvlac.
_ gaqvs axali Tema SerCeuli?
_ ki. rogori unda iyos namdvili lideri?
_ Cemnairi, megobaro!
_ xumrob ho?
_ ki, vxumrob.
_ ra sasaciloa, ha ha ha...

193
Vako
 lideri

_ megobaro, ar arsebobs raRac erTi da yvelasaTvis

morgebuli formula, risi daxmarebiTac SeiZleba ide­
aluri lideris Seqmna, Tumca ra Tmqa unda aris xer­
xebi, moqmedebebi, rac yvela liders aerTianebs. modi
zustad am xerxebze da moqmedebebze visaubroT.
_ kargi, jeikob, visaubroT.
_ rogor ggonia, rogori unda iyos namdvili lide­
ri?
_ Zlieri, pasuxismgeblobis maRali grZnobiT, Tav­
dajerebuli, aqtiuri, yuradRebiani...
_ ho, mokled, liders unda hqondes TiTqmis yvela
dadebiTi adamianuri Tviseba, rac ra Tmqa unda erT
adamianSi fizikurad ver iarsebebs, Tumca aris zustad
is Tvisebebi, romelTa ganviTarebiT da gamoyenebiT,
Cvengan sakmaod Zlieri lideri dadgeba da esenia: en­
Tuziazmi, uflebamosilebis delegireba, qeba da indi­
vidualuroba. modi, ganvixiloT yvela maTgani.

lideri-enTuziazmi

_ aba gavixsenoT yvela didebuli lideri, gavixsenoT

genialuri stiv jobsi, bil geiTsi, axlandeli drois
yvelaze didi meocnebe, kompania tesla-s da spacex-is
Semqmneli, miliarderi ilon maski. gavixsenoT mso­
flioSi erT-erTi yvelaze sisxliani lideri adolf
hitleri, budda da aseve sxva mravali didebuli, Zlie­
ri da pativsacemi xalxi, rogorebic sabednierod, ka­
cobriobis istoriaSi sakmaod bevri gvyavda.

194
Vako
 rogor ggonia ra aerTianebda maT yvelas?
_ savaraudod enTuaziazmi.
_ zustad!
_ eh ra Zneli gamosacnobi iyo...
_ yvela maTgans, megobaro, sakuTari ideisadmi
100%-iani ndoba hqonda gamocxadebuli. maT uyvardaT
is, rasac akeTebdnen da amitomac yovelTvis ufro da
ufro met enTuziazms iCendnen.
saerTod, enTuziazms yvela saqmeSi Zalian bevri da­
debiTi Sedegis motana SeuZlia da, rac mTavaria erT-­
erTi dadebiTi efeqti, romelsac is iwvevs, es aris is,
rom enTuziazmi gadamdebia.
_ gadamdebi?
_ ho, ho,ra gagikvirda?
zustad eg iyo mizezi imis, rom yvela Zlier liders,
bevri mimdevari hyavda, xalxi xedavda am liderebis en­
Tuziazms, isini xedavdnen, Tu rogor iwvis adamiani
Tavisi ideiT da Semdeg TviTonac ivsebodnen amave en­
TuziazmiT.
jeikobi SeCerda, isev fiqrebSi gaipara da Cvens So­
ris damgar siCumes mxolod Citebis WikWiki Tu arRve­
vda.
_ jeikob! aq varT, gamofxizldi!
_ ah, mapatie, warsulidan raRac gamaxsenda.
_ am Temas exeba?
_ ki.
_ maSin moyevi.
jeikobs aSkarad esiamovna Cemi gulwreli interesis
gamoCena misi warsulisadmi, es SevamCnie mis pozitiviT
da energiiT savse xmaSi.
_ zustad enTuziazms eZRvnis didi wili Cems war­
matebaSi. megobaro, Cemi gzis dasawyisSi, Cemi sayvare­

195
Vako
 li xalxi imedgacurebis garda arafers ar mCuqnida. me
TiTqos sxva samyaroSi aRmovCndi, samyaroSi sadac me
ar vicnob Cems ojaxs, megobrebs, Seyvarebuls, axlo­
blebs da arc isini micnoben me!
es yvelaferi, TviTon es situacia mTlianad, imde­
nad ucxo iyo CemTvis, rom mis gaanalizebas Zalian did
xans movundi.
_ jeikob, raSi gamoixateba imedgacrueba?
_ xalxi TiTqos ZaliT maCvenebda maT namdvil sa­
xes, megobrebi Surs ar malavdnen, arc ki cdilobdnen
cota mainc ekontrolebinaT Tavi, Seyvarebuli ki Ti­
Tqos cdilobda Cemi meocnebe xasiaTis SeCerebas da
zogadad Cems SeCerebas, ki, ki es iyo Cveulebrivi ada­
mianuri situacia, romlisTvisac me maSin mzad ar viya­
vi da, romelmac sakmaod didi ziani momayena. Tumca,
am situacias merwmune, absoliturad yvela warmate­
bisTvis mebrZoli adamiani Sexvdeba, isini daetakebian
Surs, zizRs, Worebs da mraval sxva sisaZagles, ramac
araviTar SemTxvevaSi ar unda SeZlos maTi dasuste­
ba. xolo imisaTvis, rom isini ar dasustdnen, imisTvis,
rom am negativs ganadgurebis ufleba ar miscen, maT
mouwevs aseTi xalxisgan Tavis CamoSoreba da ar aqvs
mniSvneloba, ramdenad axlo adamianis dakargva iqneba
saWiro. Cven ar varT valdebulni gverdiT daviyenoT
iseTi partniori, romelic gvaCerebs da Cveni ar swa­
ms, an iseTi megobrebi, romlebic zurgs ukan miwas gi­
Txrian. cudad ar gamigo, me ar vgulisxmob imas, rom
aseTi adamianebi cudebi arian. ara!
me ubralod vambob imas, rom Cveulebrivi xalxi, Ta­
visi SiSebiT, negativiT da cxovrebis araswori xedviT,
TviTon Sen CagZiraven da amis dasamtkiceblad Zalian
magar magaliTsac mogiyvan.

196
Vako
 _ kargi jeikob, gismen.
_ mTeli am situaciis gaigiveba, SeiZleba qvabSi myof
kiborCxalebTan.
axla naxe raSia saqme, vTvaT qvabSi gvyavs 3 kibor­
Cxala, romelTaganac gemrieli sauzmis gakeTebas va­
pirebT, iqamde sanam Cven maTTvis ar gvcalia da sxva
ingredientebis mzadebaSi gagvyavs dro, TviTon qvabSi
erT-erTi kiborCxala, mTeli ZaliT cdilobs maRla
aZromas da moxarSvisgan Tavis aridebas da Sen warmoi­
dgine sakmaod kargadac gamosdis es misi mcdelobebi,
Tumca yovel jerze etakeba erTi da igive dabrkolebas
da am dabrkolebas is ori darCenili kiborCaxa hqvia,
zustad imaT vinc ar cdilobs maRla aZromas.
_ eg rogor?
_ rogor da Cveni mebrZoli odnav maRla ava Tu ara,
danarCeni kiborCalebi egreve klanWebiT eWidebian da
misi dabla dacemis mowmeni xdebian. es mebrZoli ki­
borCxala Semdeg isev igives cdilobs, magram yovel
jerze, Tavisive Zmebi uSlian xels da es situacia
iqamde grZeldeba, iqamde meordeba, sanam Cven ar da­
vbrundebiT qvabTan da sauzmis kargad mosamzadeblad,
Tavsaxurs ar davaxuravT gemrieli kiborCxalebiT Se­
vsebul qvabs.
_ da sabolood, samive maTgani moixarSeba...
_ ki megobaro, da aba Tu ici ratom SeiZleba am maga­
liTis realobasTan gaigiveba?
_ imitom, rom TviTon is xalxi vinc winsvlisTvis ar
ibrZvis mudam SeuSlis xels, piriqiT warmatebisTvis
mebrZol pirovnebas.
_ ki, ki, egrea da Sen warmoidgine aq ar aris saubari
imaze, rom vinme adamiani bunebiT borotia, cudia an
vinme vinmeze ukeTesia. aq mxolod imazea saubari, rom
yvelas Tavisi adgili aqvs cxovrebaSi da amis Secvlis

197
Vako
 mcdeloba kargs aravis arafers ar moutans. Tu Sen
iseTi adamiani xar, romelsac brZola SeuZlia, modi da
nu gaCerdebi maT Soris visac amisTvis patara mondo­
mebac ki ar gaaCnia...
_ kargi, jeikob, es yvelaferi gasagebia, magram en­
Tuziazmi aq ra SuaSia?
_ zustad enTuziazmia is mTavari ram, rac yvela
Cveulebrivi adamianisgan ganasxvavebs namdvil liders.
Tavidan ra saqmesac ar unda moekido, ris gakeTebasac
ar unda cdilobde damijere, xalxi amas ar miiRebs.
isini dagcineben, gagWoraven, talaxs gesvrian, kidev
aTas rames izamen da erTi, riTic SegiZlia am yvela­
fers ebrZolo, es aris Senive enTuziazmi.
megobaro, xalxis cudma saqcielebma Senze ar unda
imoqmedos, Sen maTi boroti sityvebi erT yurSi unda
SeuSva da meuredan gamouSva. da es yvelaferi iqamde
sanam xalxi ar dainaxavs, rom Sen far-xmals ar yri da
brZolas kidev ufro meti enTuziazmiT agrZeleb. me­
rwmune amis Semdeg yvela is vinc adre dagcinoda da
gWoravda, Seni mimdevari Tu ar gaxdeba da mtrebis sii­
dan mainc gamova.
enTuziazms, raRac saocari Zala aqvs da am sityvebis
mtkicebulebas cnobili liderebis istoria gvaCvenebs.

lideri-uflebamosilebis delegireba
_ axla ki, modi kidev erTi, Zalian mniSvnelovani
Tema ganvixiloT.
ai, am raRacis gareSe verc erTi lideri ver SeZle­
bs winwasvlas da agixsni ratomac. jer daviwyoT imiT,
rom me minda gesaubro uflebamosilebis ­delegirebaze.

198
Vako
 ­ ereled, rom vTqva saqmis sxvaze gadacemaze da amas
z
isev biznesis magaliTiT gavakeTeb, dRes megobaro, an
principSi raRa dRes, aramed yovelTvis iyo da arse­
bobda `yvelaferCiki~ liderebis tipi, es iseTi xalxia
vinc yvelafers sakuTar Tavze Rebulobs, vinc ara
mxolod aqtiurad, aramed hiperaqtiurad ereva bizne­
sis yvela sferosa da saqmeSi. mokled, es aris iseTi
liderebi, romlebsac hgonia, rom maTi Carevis gareSe
verc erTi saqmis dasruleba ver gaxdeba SesaZlebeli.
aseTi lideris sakmaod kargi magaliTi iyo Cemi
usayvarlesi mama. is megobaro, marTlac rom `yvelafe­
rWiki~ iyo, mas gamosdioda absoluturad yvelaferi.
Cveulebrivi muSis xelobidan dawyebuli, buRaltris
an oratoris saqmiT damTavrebuli da Tu mainc da
mainc gamoCndeboda iseTi saqme sadac mamaCemi mcodne
ar iyo, is maleve iwyebda mis Seswavlas da maleve swa­
vlobda kidec.
_ anu mudmivi studneti iyo, ho jeikob?
_ ki masea, is arasdros ar wyvetda ramis Seswavlas
Tavis 50 wlis asakSic ki.
megobaro, miuxedavad Cemi winaT nalaparakebisa, rac
tyuilTan dakavSirebul TavSi vilaparake, miuxedavad
Cemi bavSvuri tkivilisa, me dRemde vici, rom mamaCemi
iyo Zalian Zlieri pirovneba. Zlieri xasiaTiT da mebr­
Zoli suliT, is iyo iseTi kaci, romliTac yvela Svili
iamayebda da romlis pliusebsac yvela Svili mibaZavda.
Tumca mapatie Temas gadavuxvie, bavSvobaSi megobaro,
me araerTxel minaxavs mamaCemi saqmis procesSi da me­
rwmune, yovelTvis erTi da igive situaciis momswre
viyavi. sadac ar unda damdgariyo mamaCemi, mis irgvliv
maleve 20-30 kaciani brbo ikribeboda xolme, ase iyo

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Vako
 sul, yvela mis saqmeSi, yvela biznesSi. saqme iwyeboda
maSin, roca mamaCemi gamoCndeboda.
ai, warmoidgine, meaTe klasSi roca skolidan gamo­
magdes, Cemma mSoblebma gadawyvites arastandartulad
davesaje. dasja iyo Semdegnairi: mamam sakuTar avto­
saxelosnoSi xelobis Seswavla maiZula da Tavis er­
T-erT moxeles Caabara Cemi Tavi. mTeli im swavlebis
periodSi, iqamde sanam mSoblebs ar Sevexvewe, rom sko­
laSi davebrunebine, me ra Tqma unda mamaCemis saqmiano­
bas vakvirdebodi da damijere, megobaro, es iyo raRac
saocari sanaxaoba. roca samsaxurSi erTad mividodiT,
jer manqanidan Camosulic ki ar viyaviT, xalxi ukve
mamasTan dalaparakebas cdilobda, ai, ai, cignebi, rom
cdiloben manqanaSi SemoZromas xom ici?
_ ki...
_ zustad egeT situaciaSi viyaviT xolme, xalxi la­
mis Semovardniliyo manqanaSi, oRondac, rom mamaCemis
rCeva mieRoT. yvela megobaro, moxelidan dawyebuli,
mamaCemis araerTi partnioriT da buRaltriT damTa­
vrebuli yvela ase iqceoda.
_ ki magram jeikob, zustad egeTi xalxi arian sauke­
Teso liderebi da Sen ginda miTxra, rom aseTi tipis
lideroba ar aris gamarTlebuli?
rasac Sen miyvebi imis mixedviT,me sul sxva daskvna
gamomaqvs.
_ ki, me imis Tqma minda, rom aseTi mmarTvelobis
tipi ar amarTlebs.
_ amixseni!
_ megobaro, TanamSromlebi mamaCemis kompaniaSi, im­
denad iyvnen damokidebulni masze, rom saerTod aRar
akeTebdnen arafers damoukideblad.

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Vako
 _ ah, axla gasagebi xdeba jeikob. mokled, situacia
iqamde iyo misuli, rom xalxi yelaze elementarul
problemebiT akiTxavda mamaSens ara? Tan yvela.
_ ki, ki, zustad mase iyo, mamas imdeni umniSvnelo
saqmis keTeba da problemis mogvareba uwevda, rom zed­
meti wamic ki ar rCeboda, ara marto mniSvnelovani sa­
qmeebisTvis, aramed sakuTari TavisTvisac ki.
_ SenTvis xom ecala rac mTavaria?
cota ironiulad vkiTxe jeikobs.
magram sakmaod seriozuli pasuxic miviRe.
_ ki. CemTvis mamaCems yovelTvis ecala, megobaro.
mokled, me vcdilob giTxra is, rom uflebamosile­
bis delegirebis gareSe, Seni saqmianoba gadagylapavs
ise, rom Tvalis daxamxamebasac ver moaswreb.
ai, Sen! Sen sikvdili xar da yvelafris keTeba mar­
tos giwevs xom egrea ara?
_ ki.
_ mere da bolos rodis gqonda Tavisufali dro an
mzis Casvlis sayureblad an Tundac sufTa haeriT da­
satkbobad?
_ arc arasdros jeikob.
_ da arc arasdros geqneba Tu delegirebas ar Seu­
dgebi.
_ ki magram me sikvdili var, rogor unda gadavce
Cemi saqmianoba sxvas?
_ ai eg, ukve Seni safiqralia da ara Cemi megobaro.
Sen mTavaria moindome, da merwmune gamosavali yo­
velTvis iqneba, ubralod icode, rac ar unda mniSvne­
lovani roli unda gqondes, ukeTesze ukeTesi ar dai­
leva. amitomac eZebe iseTi pirovneba, vinc Sens saqmes
Senze ukeT gaakeTebs, iqamde sanam Sen ufro mniSvne­
lovani TemebiT iqnebi dakavebuli.

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Vako
 _ kargi, jeikob, yvelaferi gasagebia. axla qebaze
viwyebT saubars xo?

lideri-qeba

_ ki, megobaro, zustad, rom qebaze minda gesaubro.

_ magram am Temaze isedac bevri, rom gvaqvs nalapa­
rakebi?
darCa, kidev rame?
_ uih, ras ambob, es imdenad didi Temaa, rom masze
yvelafris Tqmas verasdros ver SevZlebT. axla, ubra­
lod minda erTi sakmaod kargi da efeqturi xerxi Se­
mogTavazo, romelsac sakuTari TanamSromlebis Sec­
domebis gamosasworeblad gamoiyeneb.
_ sainteresoa, jeikob, aba gismen.
_ modi, sakuTari cxovrebidan mogiyvebi erT sainte­
reso istorias, isic Cemo kargo, Cems axalgazrdobaSi
gadavitane, jer kidev Cemi msoflioSi cnobili brednis
Seqmnamde, ufroswored mag brendis Seqmnis procesSi.
_ mag brendis saSualebiT gamdidrdi Sen, ara?
_ ki, magram eg sul sxva istoriaa!
_ kargi, bodiSi da ganagrZe.
_ 23 wlis asakSi, Cems rigiT meore avtosamrecxaoSi,
me daqiravebuli myavda 19 wlis biWi, romlis saqmiano­
bac bevrad mets fasobda, vidre misi xelfasi.
mokled, situacia iyo aseTi: jerac aumuSavebel
samrecxaoSi, iq sadac xalxs lamis vexvewebodi CvenTan
gaerecxaT Tavisi manqanebi, am biWis xelfasi Seadgenda
Semosavlis 40%-s da Sen warmoidgine dReSi maqsimum sam

202
Vako
 manqanas Tu movemsaxurebodiT da es yvelaferi maSin,
roca damakmayofilebeli xelfasis gasacemad, qirisa,
komunalurebis da sagadasaxados valdebulebebis ga­
dasaxadelad, dReSi minimum 15 manqana unda gagverecxa.
nu, rogorc xvdebi, aseT situaciaSi, jerac gamou­
cdeli me, veranairad ver mivuTiTebdi sakuTar gamou­
cdel mrecxavs, Tu rogor unda ekeTebina misi saqme.
ubralod sisulele iqneboda raRac zedmeti mome­
Txovna misgan. maSin verc miniSnebebs vaZlevdi, verc
miTiTebebs vukeTebdi da zustad aman maswavla qebis
saqmeSi gamoyeneba.
_ moica, moica jeikob, miTiTebebi da SeniSvnebi xSi­
rad Wirdeboda?
_ zedmetad xSirad, megobaro.
_ raSi ki magram? manqanis recxvaSi?
_ nu, eg TvivTon samuSao procesia, megobaro, romli­
Tac veravis ver davainteresebT, magram, ai namdvilad
saintereso, ici ra aris?
_ ra, aba?
_ ra da Cemi 1 Setyobineba, romelmac mTlianad Seu­
cvala Cems mrecxavs, samuSaosadmi damokidebuleba da
upasuxismgeblo, fexebze mkidia adamianisgan, sakmaod
seriozul muSakad aqcia.
_ aseTi ra Setyobineba iyo?
_ ui, erTi Cveulebrivi megobruli sms-i, romelic
zepirad maxsovs...
`uiliam es, rom ar mogwero ar SemiZlia. magrad mi­
xaria 19 wlis biWi, rom swavlob da muSaob erTdrou­
lad. es marTla Zalian bevrs niSnavs CemTvis, miTume­
tes samsaxurSic vamCnev, Tu rogor cdilob da rogori
pasuxismgeblobiT ekidebi yvelafers, damijere droTa
ganmavlobaSi, rac ufro met gamocdilebas miiReb, miT

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Vako
 ufro kargad da xarisxianad SeZleb Seni saqmis gake­
Tebas. mgoni kargi gundi varT da darwmunebuli var
erTmaneTs kidev gamovadgebiT momavalSi. axla ki mTa­
varia orivem Cven-Cveni saqme, sruli pasuximsgeblobiT
SevasruloT da damijere, win bevri Zalian magari ram
gvelis~
eg iyo da eg, megobaro. am sms-ma Secvala uiliamis
damokdebuleba samsaxurze, ufroswored ara mxolod
samsaxurze, aramed absoliturad mTel Cvens saqmia­
nobaze. am Setyobinebis Semdeg, uili ufro da ufro
xSirad interesdeboda Cveni proeqtiT da momavali
brendiT, is TviTon cdilobda xolme SeZlebis da gva­
rad Tavisi wvrilis Setanas Cvens saqmeSi da TviTon
samuSao processac ufro pasuxismgeblobiT ekideboda.
mokled, uiliami sul sxva adamianis saxiT gavicani da
momavalSi raTqmaunda didi karieruli zrdiTac dava­
saCuqre, rasac ra Tqma unda imsaxurebda.
_ happy end, ara jeikob?
_ ki, ki, happy end.
_ kargi, axla Semijame es yvelaferi.
_ kargi megobaro, Cveni saubridan gamomdinare, mem­
goni gasagebi unda iyos, rom adamianisTvis SeniSvnis
micemas, isev qeba jobia da amas elementaruli mizezic
aqvs. bevri, rom ar gawvalo da mec ukve yelSi amosuli
magaliTebis mofiqreba ar momiwios, getyvi,rom SeniSv­
nis micemisas adamianis gamosworeba droebiTi iqneba,
xolo Seqebisas xangrZlivi. morCa.
eg aris da eg.
mec mombezrda ukve amaze saubari, megobaro...
_ kargi, jeikob, modi lideris Semdegi Tvisebac gan­
vixiloT.

204

Vako
 lideri-individualuroba

_ individualuroba, megobaro, es aris lideriTvis

da zogadad yvela adamianisTvis sasicocxlod saWiro
Tviseba, romelzedac sakmaod saintereso dialogis ga­
marTva SemiZlia.
_ aba, gismen, jeikob.
_ modi gadavxedoT leqsikons, gavigoT, Tu rogor
ganmartavs is sityva individualurobas.
`individualuroba _ pirovneba, mxolod misTvis da­
maxasiaTebeli Tvisebebis erTianoba.~
rac ar unda gasakviri iyos, namdvilad, ai, realu­
rad individualuri adamianebi Cvens irgvliv Zalian
cotaa, da es sruliad bunebrivi mizezis gamowveulia.
_ ra mizezis, jeikob?
_ is Cveni aRzrdidan gamomdinareobs.
_ jer ver mivxvdi.
_ rogor swavlobs bavSvi laparaks, siaruls, mego­
brobas, morals, mokled, rogor swavlobs bavSvi cxo­
vrebas?
_ hmm am kiTxvas Zalian bevri pasuxi SeiZleba hqon­
des, darwmunebuli var Sen pasuxic mzad geqneba...
_ mibaZviT, megobaro, mibaZviT.
_ anu?
_ anu, is, rom Cven adamianebi vviTardebiT mibaZvis
saSualebiT. Cven vcdilobT SeviswavloT-SevigrZnoT
is, rasac Cvens irgvliv vxedavT, Cven xom ukve ToTo
asakSi vxedavT, Tu rogor laparakobs Cvens irgvliv
xalxi da zustad maTnairad vcdilobT alaparakebas.
Cven vxedavT, Tu rogor dadis xalxi da aseve maTnai­
rad vcdilobT gavlas da ase grZeldeba mTeli Cveni
cxovreba, sikvdilamde.

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Vako
 _ eg gasagebia, jeikob,magram indiviudaluroba aq ra
SuaSia?
_ simarTle giTxra, SuaSi ki ara TavSia, megobaro.
zustad am mibaZviT, am bunebrivi qceviT, Cven bavSvo­
bidanve gauazreblad vemsgavsebiT umravlesobas, zus­
tad im umravlesobas, romelic Sorsaa sityva indi­
vidualurobisgan. mudmiv mibaZvaSi, Cven gadmogvaqvs
umravlesobis SiSebi, ara janmrTeli cxovrebis wesebi,
stereotipebi, morali da is sxva mravali ram, rac zus­
tad am umravlesobasTan gvamsgavsebs. Sedegad ki, Cven
vkargavT sakuTar ocnebebs, miznebs, gegmebs, azrs da
raTqmaunda sakuTar individualurobasac.
_ aham, eg gasagebia. axla is miTxari, Tu rogor unda
daibrunos an ganaviTaros adamianma Tavisi individu­
aluroba?
_ Tu Sen (adamians) ginda iyo individualuri pirov­
neba, Sen ubralod unda iyo is vinc xar.
_ uih, eg aris sul? raRac adivilad JRers.
_ da mainc sulac ar aris advili. amisTvis adamianma
aucileblad unda moixsnas Tavisi socialuri niRabi,
niRabi keTili, Tu boroti adamianisa, niRabi meojaxi­
sa, swerva Tu moraluri faseulobebis damcvelisa.
mokled, adamianma unda moixsnas is niRabi, romlis
daxmarebiT an gamoyenebiT Cven vmalavT sakuTar re­
alur saxes da realur pirovnebas.
_ da maseTi niRabi bevrs aqvs?
_ yvelas megobaro! absoliturad yvelas!
_ da mainc ver mivxvdi raRacas, jeikob, rogor unda
moixsnas adamianma es niRabi, rogor unda iqces is, iseT
pirovnebad vinc realurad aris?
_ pirvel rigSi, man unda Sewyvitos xalxis azrze
dardi.

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Vako
 _ anu?
_ anu, is, rom TiTqmis yvela CvenTagans eSinia sxvis
TvalSi cudad gamoCenis, Cven gveSinia raime gansaku­
Trebulis gakeTebis, elementarulad imis gamo, rom
vdardobT imaze, Tu ras ifiqrebs xalxi Cvenze.
megobaro, realoba aseTia: Cven imdenad gveSinia kri­
tikis, uaryofis, xalxisgan gandevnis, dacinvis da mok­
led yvelafer imis, rac xalxis azrs exeba, rom Cven
aRarc ki vcdilobT raime gansxvavebulis gakeTebas,
zustad im moqmedebis Cadenas, rac marTla guliT gvin­
da.
_ da am SiSs rogor unda eSvelos jeikob?
_ Zalian advilad megobaro, Sen ubralod unda gaia­
zro, aRiaro is, rom ra saqmesac ar unda mokido xeli,
yovelTvis gamoCndeba is visac, raRac ar moewoneba.
ai, yovelTvis ase iyo da ase iqneba kidec, es ubralod
cxovrebis wesia, romelic arasdros ar Seicvleba. amis
gaazrebis da aRiareba-miRebis Semdeg, cxovreba bevrad
ufro advili xdeba. merwmune, Cemi gamocdilebidan ga­
momdinare vambob.
_ da mainc, raRac Zalian advilad JRers, jeikob.
_ da masec aris megobaro, zogjer cxovreba uad­
vilesi elementebisgan Sedgeba da mxolod erTi, am
zemoTxsenebuli elementis kargad gaazrebiT da raT­
qmaunda gamoyenebiT, SeiZleba mTeli Cveni cxovrebis
Secvla.
_ jeikob, anu, Tuki adamiani SeZlebs xalxis azri­
sadmi SiSis daZlevas, masSi misi individualuri mxare
gaiRviZebs?
_ zustad masea. roca Cven vxvdebiT, rom yovelTvis
iqneba iseTi adamiani visac ar moewoneba Cveni saqmiano­
ba, vinc gagvWoravs, gagvkicxavs, gagvlanZRavs, gvakri­

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Vako
 tikebs da SegviZulebs ,Cven ubralod fexebze vikidebT
xalxis azrisadmi damokidebulebas da viwyebT zustad
ise cxovrebas, rogorc Cven gvinda.
_ da Semdeg iwyeba namdvili saocreba ara?
_ megobaro, me da Sen ukve ise davvaxlovdiT, rom
Cemi azrebis dasrulebasac axerxeb.
RmiliT savse saxiT miTxra jeikobma.
_ jeikob, Cven ukve isic viciT Tu rogor unda gavxv­
deT Zlieri lideri, aba Semdegi raze unda visaubroT?

problema-SesaZlebloba

_ ai axla megobaro Zalian magar Temaze minda ge­

saubro, oRond amisTvis isev Cems buxarTan mogviwevs
gadasvla. iq ukve siTboSi, Cems sayvarel taxtze Camom­
jdari gesaubrebi, yvela adamianisTvis Zalian mniSvne­
lovan Temaze.
_ kargi, jeikob.
sul ramodenime wamSi me da jeikobi isev misi buxa­
ris win aRmovCndiT, TviTon buxarSi cecxli TiTqmis
Camqraliyo da jeikobs misi Tavidan gaRviveba mouwia.
me ki, manamde taxtze usaqmod Camovjeqi da Semdegi,
kidev erTi saintereso saubrisTvis gavemzade.
_ megobaro, albaT ar gagikvirdeba Tu getyvi imas,
rom problemebi yvela adamianis cxovrebis nawilia da
zustad maT mogvarebaze ixarjzeba xolme mTeli Cveni
cxovreba. dRes, an raRa dRes, principSi kacobriobis
mTel istoriaSi ar arsebobda adamiani problemis ga­
reSe.

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Vako
 jeikobma mZimed CaisunTqa da Tan daayola: nu, mkv­
drebis garda, maT ukve naRdad ar aqvT problemebi.
am sityvebis mere, cota ar iyos Camecina da mec Tan
davuyole:
_ ahaha, jeikob, anu Sen imis Tma ginda, rom me xalxs
problemebs vaSoreb? ahaha, erTgvari gmiri vyofilvar
da ar vicodi.
jeikobs Cems naTqvamze sulac ar gaecina...
_ modi filosofiaSi nu gadavalT da Cvens Temas
davubrundeT.
_ kargi, gasagebia da yvelam icis, rom problemebi
yvela adamianis cxovrebis nawilia, Semdeg?
_ Semdeg is, rom me gTavazob absoluturad yvela
problemis mogvarebis gzas, ufroswored absolutu­
rad yvela problemaSi SesaZleblobis danaxvis Sanss,
Sedegad ki, maTi mogvarebidan `plusSi~ gasvlasac.
_ modi, aqedan cota dawvrilebiT mesaubre jeikob,
rogor Tu problemaSi SesaZleblobis danaxvis Sanss?
_ anu, me imis Tqma minda, rom Cven yvelas gvaqvs
Sansi, Cveni problemebidan raRac kargi gamovitanoT.
magaliTad, viswavloT rame axali, ris daxmarebiTac es
problema momavalSi aRar ganmeordeba.
mokled, yvela problemidan, raRac kargis gamotanas
vgulisxmob.
_ gasagebia, da amas rogor vizamT?
_ swori kiTxvebis dasmiT.
_ eg rogor?
_ aris 6 kiTxva romelTa daxmarebiTac yvela pro­
blemis SesaZleblobaSi gadayvana SeiZleba.
_ aba kiTxvebi?
_ maca...
jeikobi fexze wamodga da oTaxSi xis ulamazes kara­
das miuaxlovda.

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Vako
 _ es ara, arc es, arc es, esec ara, neta sad waviRe?
ai, ai, vipove!
jeikobi uceb wamoxta da failSi Cadebuli erTader­
Ti furcliT xelSi, gaxarebuli daubrunda buxars, ta­
xtze Camojda da kiTxvas Seudga.
_ es aris problemis SesaZleblobaSi gadayvanis
formula. gaiTvaliswine, rom mis gamosayeneblad au­
cilebelia yvela Sig mocemuli kiTxva da maTze yve­
la mosuli pasuxi, rveulSi an dRiurSi Cawerili iyos.
aseve gaiTvaliswine isic, rom am formulis Semqneli
me ara var!

ai formac: problema-SesaZlebloba --------- (aq vwerT

TviTon problemis saxels)
I. ra pozitiuri mxareebi gaaCnia am problemas?
II. ra ar maqvs cxovrebaSi mogvarebuli, ris gamoc
Sevxvdi am problemas?
III. ra unda movimoqmedo imisTvis, rom momavalSi ar
movxvde igive situaciaSi?
IV. rogor da ra gziT SeiZleba am problemis mogva­
reba?
(Camowere yvela varianti, rac TavSi mogiva, am kiTx­
vas daWirdeba 15-20 wuTi fiqri).
V. romeli varianti iqneba saukeTeso am problemis
mosagvareblad? (anu wina kiTxvidan gamomdinare, ro­
melic iqneba yvelaze kargi mogvarebis gza. problemis
mogvarebas daiwyeb zustad imiT.)
VI. rogor miviRo siamovneba am problemis mogvare­
bisas?
_ eg aris megobaro, SeiZleba iTqas, rom am kiTxvebs
SeuZlia yvela problemis mogvareba.
_ raRac, Zalian iolad JRers yvelaferi, jeikob.

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Vako
 _ nuTu aqamde ver mixvdi, rom cxovrebis gasaum­
jobeseblad, adamians ar sWirdeba raRac Zneli da sas­
tiki moqmedebebis Sesruleba?
_ principSi marTalic xar, magram ironia imaSia, rom
xalxs am ioli, elementaruli moqmedebebis Sesrule­
bac ki ar unda...
_ ki, egrea, Tumca am samwuxaro faqtze guli didi
xania aRar mwydeba, imitom, rom vici, Tu adamians sje­
ra cvlilebebis, Tavisi cxovrebis gaumjobesebis da
warmatebis, is aucileblad gamoiyenebs Cvens dialogSi
naxseneb uadviles rCevebs.
_ eg TavisTavad, jeikob. axla is miTxari SegiZlia
Tu ara, am formulasTan dakavSirebuli raime praqti­
kuli magaliTis moyvanac?
_ moica, raRacas aviReb da ki.
jeikobi energiuli nabijebiT miuaxlovda Tavis
dRiurebis karadas, gamoaRo erT-erTi Taro da raRac
Zveli dRiuri gamoitana. Semdeg ki uvke dRiuriT xel­
Si, daubrunda Tavis adgils.
_ ai, am dRiurSi maqvs ramodenime problemaze namu­
Sevari. modi, erT-erT maTgans gadavxedoT...
jeikobma dRiuri saWiro adgilze gaadaSala da si­
tuaciis winaswar axsna damiwyo. man amixsna, Tu rogor
uWirda kidev erTi biznesis dawyeba mis axalgazrdo­
baSi, elementarulad imis gamo, rom ver poulobda ga­
saqiravebel avtosamrecxaoebs, zogierTi bevrad met
Tanxaze qiravdeboda vidre dedisgan dafiansnebuli
jeikobi gaswvdeboda, zogi ki carielad qiravdebo­
da, carielad anu saWiro aRWurvilobis da teqnikis
gareSe. mokled, megobrebo, jeikobi maSin daetaka, im
dabrkolebebs da problemebs, romlebic umravlesoba
damwyeb biznesmens Sexvdeba gzad, axla ki modiT davu­
brundeT isev dRiurs.

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Vako
 problema-SesaZlebloba: ver vpoulob
avtosamrecxaos.

I. ra pozitiuri mxareebi gaaCnia am problemas?

1. avtosamrecxaos Zebnisas, me momiwevs bevri maT­
ganis daTvaliereba, aqedan gamomdinare, me SemiZlia
avarCio yvelaze warmatebuli samrecxaoebi da maTi
ideebi gamoviyeno Cems momaval saqmeSic.
2. avtosamrecxaos Zebnisas vipove sirbilisTvis kom­
fortuli marSruti (jeikobi maSin yovel diliT var­
jiSobda da axal binaSi gadasuls, jerac ar hqonda
sasirbilo marSruti Sedgenili)
3. avtosamrecxaos Zebnisas me SemiZlia qalaqis ukeT
gacnoba da biznesisTvis axali ideebis mofiqreba.
4. me SemiZlia xalxTan urTierTobis ukeT Seswavla,
sakuTar Rimilisa da qarizmis ukeTesad marTvis xar­
jze.
5. samrecxaos Zebnisas organizmi iqneba moZravi, Se­
degad ki Zlieri da janmrTeli.
II. ra ar maqvs cxovrebaSi mogvarebuli, ris gamoc Sevx-
vdi am problemas?
1. Cemi finansuri mdgomareoba.
2. moqmedeba gegmis gareSe.
III. ra unda movimoqmedo imisaTvis, rom momavalSi ar
movxvde igive situaciaSi?
1. gavamzado moqmedebis gegma.
2. gavxvde finansurad damoukidebeli. (Zlieri)
IV. rogor da ra gziT SeiZleba am problemis mogvareba?
1. movZebno avtosamrecxao internetSi,
Facebook-is gverdebze davwero gancxadebebi,
mivwero avtosamrecxaoebs TxovniT, rom damexmaron
obieqtis povnaSi, an momawodon raime informacia.

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Vako
 2. davreko yvela maklerTan (agentTan) vis nomersac
vipovi da vTxovo mapovninon obieqti.
3. daviaro yvela metros axlomdebare adgilebSi
fexiT.
4. gamovaqveyno gancxadebebi cnobil da xalxmraval
saitebze.
5. google map-Si movZebno avtosamrecxaoebi, davu­
reko maT da vkiTxo yvelaferi CemTvis saWiro infor­
maciasTan dakavSirebiT.
6. movZebno obieqti google earth-is saSualebiT
(sakmaod kargi da saWiro instrumentia, misi sworad
gamoyenebis SemTxvevaSi)
V. romeli varianti iqneba saukeTeso am problemebis
mosagvareblad?
variantebi 2,5 da 6.
VI. rogor miviRo siamovneba am problemis mosagvare-
blad?
1. motivaciiT avavso sakuTari Tavi.
2. gaazrebulad miviRo mTeli informacia, rasac
samyaro momawvdis.
3. xSirad gaviRimo.
4. fokusireba movaxdino sakuTar mizanze.
_ jeikob, aq yvelaferi saintereso da simarTle gi­
Txra, ucxo Cans, darwmunebuli var efeqturicaa, bo­
los da bolos TviTon am dRiuris Canawerebi adastu­
rebs formulis efeqturobas.
da mainc, ramdenad xSirad iyenebdi am formulas, an
ramden xans undebodi xolme mis damuSavebas?
_ TviTon formulas, megobaro, viyenebdi TiTqmis
yvela seriozul problemis mosagvareblad. xolo, rac
Seexeba dros, erTi problemis damuSavebas 15 wuTidan
1 saaTs vandomebdi. magram, damijee, formulis damu­

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Vako
 SavebaSi daxarjuli dro, bevrad met dros magebinebda
momavalSi. mokled, ajobebs es formula TviTon Sea­
mowmo da dainaxo misi efeqturoba sakuTari TvalebiT.
_ marTali xar, jeikob, darwmunebuli var mkiTxveli
axlave gamocdis formulas sakuTar Tavze da mxolod
amis Semdeg Seudgeba axali Tavis kiTxvasac.
_ rao?
vin ra unda qnas?
vin mkiTxveli, megobaro?
ra Tavi?
_ araferi jeikob, ubralod xmamaRla vfiqrobdi.
_ kargi, gasagebia. cota ar iyos daviRale megobaro,
ras fiqrob droa?
_ jer adrea, jeikob, minda kidev or Temaze mesau­
bro oRond Temas Tqvenis nebarTviT me avirCev.
Cems aseT mimarTvas jeikobi aristokratiuli xmiTa
da JestebiT gamoexmaura.
_ rogor gekadrebaT geTayva, ra Tmqa unda airCieT
is Tema, romelze saubarsac mniSvnelovnad CaTvliT.

zrdiloba

_ Zalian minda imdenad saWiro Temaze visaubroT,

rogoricaa zrdiloba, oRond pararelurad erT ada­
mianTan mogviwevs gadasvla, ras ityvi jeikob?
_ ki, Tanaxma var.
me isev sakuTar samuSao sia xelSi aviRe da masSi
sakmaod ucnauri adamianis arCeva gadavwyvite. es iyo
xanSi Sesuli wverebiani mamakaci, sxvadasxva feris Tva­
lebiT da Zalian TeTri kbilebiT.

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Vako
 Sen albaT dagainteresebs Tu ra iyo masSi ucnauri,
ara?
da me gipasuxeb, rom ucnauri masSi, zustad is uxi­
lavi ram iyo, romelic fotos daxmarebiTac ki maniS­
nebda, rom me mivdiar Zalian negatiur adamianTan. am
fotoze Semxedvares, imdenad negatiuri aura Semxvda,
rom egreve mivxvdi, es adamiani savsea zizRiT, SuriT,
tkiviliT, mokled negativis mTeli buketiT.
ramodenime xanSi, me Cems ukve axlo megobarTan
erTad am `TeTrkbilebas~ saxlSi aRmovCndi. TviTon
saxli arc dizainiTa da arc remontiT gamoirCeoda
sxva saxlebisgan, Tumca erTi, ai erTi ram SeuZlebeli
iyo ar SegemCnia, es iyo saxlis maspinZelis `TeTrkbi­
lebas~ stumarTmoyvareoba, romelic Cemi da jeikobis
danaxvisTanave gamoCnda.
_ Tqven Ra vin Cemi yleebi xarT?!
gvkiTxa, Tu gviTxra maspinZelma ver getyviT.
_ madloba Tbili SexvedrisTvis, magram ra maintere­
sebs ici? Sen yvela stumars ase xvdebi?
egreve dauyola sruliad wynarma jeikobma da pasu­
xad isev agresiulad ganwyobili intonaciiT miiRo.
_ stumari vici me axal wels Tovlis babuis formaSi
da ara gagania zamTarSi, raRac helounisTvis gamzade­
bul Sav mosasxamSi, culiT xelSi!
amitomac vimeoreb kiTxvas geTayva, vin Cemi yleebi
xarT da ra Cemi yle dakargeT Cems saxlSi?!
mokled, bevri rom ar gelaparakoT Semdegi 10-15 wu­
Tis ganmavlobaSi me da jeikobi ganuwyvetliv vuxsni­
diT `TeTrkbilebas~ imas, rom misi dro movida da me
sikvdili, mis wasayvanad var mosuli, ramac es wynari,
zrdilobiT savse kaci mTlad Wkuidan gadaiyvana da

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Vako
 kidev 10-15 wuTis ganmavlobaSi Cemi da jeikobis dedis
trakis ginebaSi gaatarebina.
_ sul ratom iginebi?
hkiTxa jeikobma da mosalodneli pasuxic miiRo.
_ ma ra Cemi yle vakeTo?
sabolood jeikobs am kacisadmi yvelanairi intere­
si gauqra da Cveni dialogis mosmenas saxlidan gasvla
da iqve patara besetkaSi Camojdoma amjobina. me ki,
`TeTr­ kbilebas~ Tavisi bolo dialogis gamarTva Sev­
Tavaze, razec ra Tqma unda Cemi yurisTvis sasiamovno
da gulisTvis Tbili pasuxi miviRe.
_ ras qvia bolo dialogi, Sen mTlad xom ar ga­
moylevdi?
...
me Rrmad CavisunTqe, Zalian seriozuli saxiT Sevxe­
de da kidev erTxel avuxseni, rom es misi bolo dialo­
gi iqneboda da aseTi Sansi aRarasodes eqneboda...
_ kargi, kargi! Sen oRond is maCvene, rom Cemi mosme­
na SegiZlia da aucileblad mogiyvebi yvelafers.
_ mogismen, daiwye.
_ yvelaferi daiwyo imiT, rom deda motynu...
da ase gineb-ginebiT, tylaSa-tyluSuniT, dedebis da
mamebis afeTqebiT, kata-ZaRlianad bodiSiT da yvelas
gadatyvniT dasrulda Cemi da `TeTrkbilebas~ sakmaod
banaluri da uintereso dialogi, romelic damijereT
ac erT Tqvengans ar daainteresebda.
mTel Cvens dialogSi, Tu rame iyo saintereso es
iyo, bolo ritualis dasrulebisas misi namdvilad la­
mazi wasvla am qveynidan.
`_ adios nabiWvrebo!~
es damSvidobeba imdenad xmamaRali iyo, rom saxli­
dan gasulma jeikobmac gaigo da ukve nerveb moSlili,

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Vako
 aSkarad mwyobridan gamosuli mis gasalaxad Semovida
saxlSi, Tumca aq Cems garda aRaravin daxvda.
_ ubralod ver vxvdebi am asakamde rogor movida,
rogor ar Semoakvda vinmes?
_ kargi jeikob dawynardi, modi taxtze dajeqi, damS­
viddi da mere gavagrZeloT saubari.
jeikobi taxtze Camojda, gemrielad mokalaTda, aT
wuTian meditirebas Seudga da Semdeg isev wynari da
saRi azrovnebiT damibrunda.
_ daviwyoT zrdilobaze saubari, jeikob?
_ daviwyoT.
_ kargi, aba miTxari, ra azris xar zrdilobasTan
dakavSirebiT?
_ megobaro, simarTle giTxra, zrdiloba adamianis
yvelaze saWiro Tvisebad mimaCnia da Tavisuflad Se­
miZlia sakuTar Tavs zrdilobiani pirovneba vuwodo,
erTis mxriv, anda, raRa erTis mxriv, yvela mxriv, Cems
zrdilobaze, Cemma aRzrdam imoqmeda, Cemi mSoblebisT­
vis, Cems zrdilobas sakmaod didi mniSvneloba hqonda,
amitomac uyuradRebod am SemTxvevaSi ar davrCenil­
var.
Tumca!
uceb xmas auwia jeikobma.
_ ra Tumca, jeikob?
_ me ar minda zrdilobas standartulad Sevexo, ar
minda isedac yvelasaTvis cnobili faqtebi vimeore, an
vinmes zrdilobiani bavSvis aRzrda vaswavlo, arc zr­
dilobis sakuTar TavSi ganviTarebis formulaze minda
saubari.
erTad erTi, razec minda, rom gesaubro, es aris zr­
dilobis yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi gamoyenebaze da am
gamoyenebisgan miRebul Sedegebze. mokled, elementa­

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Vako
 rul adamianur Tvisebebze, romelTa gamoyenebiT, ara­
fers ar davkargavT, magram Zalian bevrs movigebT.
_ sainteresoa, aba gismen.
_ es ukve naTqvami maqvs SenTvis da mainc gavimeoreb,
dakvirvebulxar Tu ramdenad seriozulia mTeli ka­
cobrioba? Tu rogori saxiT dadis irgvliv xalxi da
rogori TvalebiT iyurebian? ai, me bavSvobidanve vak­
virdebodi magas da simarTle giTxra, vera da ver vxv­
debodi, Tu rogor SeeZlo xalxs mudmivad qvis saxiT
siaruli. es CemTvis imdenad miuRebeli ram aRmoCnda,
rom bavSvobaSive miviRe gadawyvetileba erTgvari `mis­
ter Rimila~ gavmxdariyavi, ramac momavalSi Zalian be­
vri dadebiTi gamocdileba momitana. am gadawyvetile­
bis miRebidan, me da Cemi Rimili, megobaro, vanaTebdiT
mTel samyaros.
_ eg rogor, debiliviT iRimodi sul?
_ maseTi SemTxvevebic yofila, magram me sul sxva
rameze vambob. me vsaubrob RimiliT da Tbili gamarjo­
biT maRaziebis gamyidvlebTan misalmebas, an kinos bi­
leTebis yidvas, restoranSi RimiliT SekveTis micemas,
an Rimilis daxmarebiT vaWrobas. mokled, me vgulisx­
mob Rimilis yoveldRiur cxovrebaSi gamoyenebas, rac
Cvens realobaSi sakmaod iSviaTa. nu eg isedac naTvami
gvaqvs, magram mainc vimeoreb. me dResac darwmunebuli
var imaSi, rom qvis saxiT mosiarule xalxi verasdros
ver miaRwevs warmatebas ama Tu im saqmeSi.
_ da rato?
_ Cemi azriT `qvis saxis~ matarebeli adamiani, samya­
ros ZalebisTvis umaduri adamianis rols asrulebs.
_ anu?
_ anu warmoidgine megobari, romelsac yovelTvis
SeZlebis da gvarad exmarebi, romelsac mxars uWer da

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Vako
 sanacvlod, es megobari madlobis magier yovelTvis
mets da mets iTxovs. ra azris iqnebodi masze?
_ egeTi adamiani umaduri ki ara, Roria jeikob.
_ hoda zustad igive situaciaa samyaros Zalebsa da
`qvis saxis~ mepatrones Soris.
ubralod warmoidgine, samyarom uzarmazari plane­
tebis Seqmna-gadaadgilebaSi, varskvlavebis gaCena-da­
berebaSi, milionobiT da miliardobiT swori Tu mc­
dari moqmedebebis CadenaSi, movida iqamde, rom gaaCina
kacobrioba, misca mas Tavisufleba da ra miiRo sana­
cvlod?
_ miliardobiT `qvis saxis~ mqone adamiani, romleb­
sac mapatie da mxolod is adardebT, Tu rogori manqa­
niT dadis maTi mezobeli an ra Wama aseTi, rom Tavisi
kuiliT mTel sadarbazoSi yvavilebis surneli datova.
_ ho, ai, warmoidgine, samyarom miliardobiT weli
gamoiara imisTvis, rom am patara arafris maqnis arse­
bam pretenzia gamoucxados cud amindze da cxovrebis
usamarTlobaze, ho?
jeikobma Rrmad CaisunTqa, naxevar saxeze gaiRima da
miTxra.
_ mokled, megobaro! Rmiliani saxe Cveni zrdilo­
bis erT-erTi yvelaze mniSvnelovani nawilia, romelic
absoluturad yvela adamianma unda gamoimuSavos saku­
Tar TavSi.
_ marTali xar, jeikob, kargad damuRamebuli da
saWiro dros gamoyenebuli Rimili, bevrad gauadvile­
bs adamians cxovrebas.
_ nu, ai, elementarul etikets, rac Seexeba, ufros­
Tan TqvenobiT saubars, an moxuci, Tu orsulisTvis
skamis daTmobas, mgoni Cveni ganxilva arc daWirdeba,
Tumca!

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Vako
 isev xmas auwia beberma.
_ Tumca ra?
_ ra da me minda gesaubro zrdilobis im iSviaT
nawilze, romelzec TiTqmis aravin ar saubrobs, amas
arc saxlebSi mSoblebi, arc skolis maswaleblebi da
arc socialuri normebi ar gvaswavlian. es aris yvela­
ze cnobili da albaT zrdilobis yvelaze moTxovnadi
aspeqtis `ufrosi adamianisadmi pativiscemis gamoxat­
vis~ sapirispiro mxare.
_ anu?
_ anu axalgazrdis, ufrosis mier pativiscema, rac
samwuxarod Zalian iSviaTad Tu Semxvedria, mTeli Cemi
cxovrebis ganmavlobaSi.
_ da mainc, raSi gmaoixateba es upativcemuloba jei­
kob?
_ eh Zalian bevr rameSi, magaliTad, ufrosebis mier
axali Taobis da maTi cxovrebis wesis lanZRvaSi, yve­
laferi axalis uaryofaSi, sakuTari asakiT manipuli­
rebaSi, axalgazrdebis yvela wamowyebis gakritikebaSi,
mokled, aseTi upativcemulo mopyrobis mowme ara mxo­
lod me, aramed absoliturad yvela axalgazxrda yo­
fila da erTaderTi risi Tqmac SemiZlia esaa is, rom
yvela xanSi Sesuli adamiani, yvela ufrosi, odesRac
TviTonac iyo axalgazrda, isic uSvebda Secdomebs,
isic viTardeboda Tavis TanatolebTan erTad da isic
cdilobda ubralod xalisiani da bednieri dReebis ga­
tarebas.
aqedan gamomdinare Zalian didi Secdomaa axalgazr­
dis upativcemuloba.
_ egrea, jeikob. egeTi saqcieli ubralod sakuTari
axalgazrdobis daviwyebis niSania da meti araferi...

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Vako
 Cemi sityvebis mere, aSkarad ukve daRlilma jeikob­
ma bolo Temaze gadasvla mTxova, razec ra Tqma unda
Cemi Tanxmoba miiRo.

pativi sce adamians - Seni arCevania,

magram moepyro mas pativiscemiT - Seni zrdilobaa.

ojaxi

Tema, romelzec axla unda gvesaubra jeikobisTvis

Zalian amaRelvebeli aRmoCnda, am bebers, rogorc ukve
mivxvdiT sigiJemde uyvarda Tavisi ojaxis wevrebi.
jeikobma jibidan raRac furceli amoiRo da me mo­
mawoda TxovniT wamekiTxa, Cems kiTxvaze, Tu ra fur­
celi iyo es, man mipasuxa, rom es iyo 23 wlis asakSi
mis mier gamzadebuli werili, romelic eZRvneboda mis
dedas.

werili dedas:
`de, guSin tirodi, RmerTs exvewebodi, rom Seni er­
TaderTi ocneba, CemTan erTad yofna da CemTan cxo­
vreba agsruleboda.
de, Sen guSin tirodi...
dedi gpirdebi, male Camogiyvan, emigracias gaSoreb
da mTels Sens cxovrebas, Sens gverdiT gavateb.
dedi gpirdebi!
guls gagixareb!
dedi gpirdebi!
Sens siyvaruls, Sens wvalebas, Sens mondomebas aT­
magad dagifaseb!

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Vako
 dedi gpirdebi!
gpirdebi!
gpirdebi!
gagabedniereb, Cems namdvil Zalas daganaxeb, binasac
giyidi, bevr qveyanasac daganaxeb, didxans dagasveneb
da yovel dRe gagaRimeb, gpirdebi, rom cremls ar ga­
denineb!
dedi gpirdebi!
Sens siyvaruls, aTasad dagibruneb!
miyvarar!
siyvaruliT Seni erTaderTi Svili~
werilis wakiTxvisTanave jeikobis Tvalze naxevrad
damaluli, naxevrad gadmosuli cremli davinaxe da ra­
mis Tqmas, Cumad yofna vamjobine.
_ axla es gamomarTvi.
jeikobma meore furceli gadmomawoda da miTxra,
rom es werili mis mamas eZRvneboda.

werili mamas:
`mamun, sul Rrma bavSvobidan maxsovs Seni siyvaru­
li, sul maxsendeba Seni gamgebianoba, maxsendeba is Ta­
visufleba, romelic bavSvobaSi momeci, maxsendeba is
erTguleba, romliTac Cemi ndoba moipove.
mamun, miuxedavad yvelafrisa, miuxedavad Cemi bavS­
vuri tkivilebisa, romelic Sen ara samarTlianad ga­
dagabrale, minda giTxra is, rac ara erTxel miTqvams
SenTvis da Senze.
Sen, saukeTeso mama xar!
miyvarxar!
siyvaruliT Seni erTad erTi Svili!~
_ jeikob!
_ moica, araferi ar Tqva, axla es werili ­gamomarTvi.

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Vako
 jeikobma gadmomawoda kidev erTi furceli da mi­
Txra, rom es eZRvneboda misTvis usayvarles adamians,
mis Zmas (biZaSvils)

werili Zmas:
`Cemo Zamiko, gaxsovs, rogor damicavi bavSvobaSi?
roca erTma, Cvenze bevrad ufrosma biWma mawyenina
da Sen quCaSi napovni, basri nivTiT xeli gauWeri si­
tyvebiT: `Cems Zmas xeli gauSvi biWo!~. miyvarxar Cemo
kargo, miyvarxar imitom, rom gjera Cemi, mivarxar imi­
tom, rom miuxedavad Cemi uyuradRebobisa, Seni guli
yovelTvis Cemken moiwevda, miyvarxar imitom, rom Cemi
sisustis periodSi Sen iyavi is erTi, visac Cemi swamda!
miyvarxar gutika!~
_ amiT ar damTavrebula, aha esec gamomarTvi da wa­
ikiTxe.
jeikobma kidev erTi furceli gadmomawoda da mi­
Txra, rom es werili eZRvneboda mis sayvarel bebiasa
da babuas.

werili Cems bebrebs:

`Cemo mSiSara bebia, dRemde ver viazreb erT rames.
Cem Tavs gaficeb, erTdroulad saxlSi gazis gapar­
vis, wylis onkanidan gadmosvlis da saxlis CaZirvis,
Cemi Zilis dros enis gadaylapvis da Cemi SimSiliT
mokvdomis, rogor geSinia?
ai, rogor?
be ra maxsovs ici?
16 wlis asakSi gogoebTan erTad, rom zRvaze ver­
Tobodi, magaT winaSe Tavis Zlier da seriozul biWad
gamoCenas vcdilobdi da am dros, Sen daginaxe pliaJze
saswrafos manqanasTan erTad, Cems saxels bolo xmaze

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Vako
 yvirodi. maSin, Turme Sens danarekebs ar vpasuxobdi
da Sen SegeSinda bavSvi xom ar damexrCoo da saswrafos
manqaniT momakiTxe zRvaze.
gulwrfelad getyvi! maSin imdenad Semarcxvine mag
saqcieliT, rom im gogonebs da magaT megobrebs 2-3
Tvis ganmavlobaSi vemalebodi.
sad mqonda bebi maSin imdeni tvini, rom Sens am saq­
cielSi, Seni gulwrfeli siyvaruli menaxa?
ar mqonda, ara!
Sen Cemi bebia xar da Sens xelSi gazrdils SemiZlia
giTxra,rom sigiJemde miyvarxar!
axla ki gTxov babuas gadasce werili.

`Дедуля, вот ты у меня уникальный человек, человек,

с прекрасным умом, с огромным жизненным опытом и с
лучшим в мире чувством юмора. Если честно, дед, то я
горжусь тобой. Я горжусь твоим мировоззрением, твоим
голодом перед новыми знаниями. Ты у меня, правда,
большой Человек и дай Бог тебе здоровья, чтобы ты смог
увидеть меня, твоего внука на вершине всех вершин! Будь
здоров, деда! С любовью и с уважением, твой старшый
внук.~

_ jeikob, daamateb rames?

_ ki, megobaro, davamateb imas, rom Cven Cveulebrivi
xalxi, xSir SemTxvevaSi brmad, daufiqreblad vmoqme­
debT. Cven xom siyvaruls sxvebSi, ucxo xalxSi veZebT
maSin, roca Cvens siyvaruls, Cveni ojaxis wevrebi wle­
bis manZlze elodebian...
jeikobs Tvalebze cremlebi moadga, xma CaexliCa da
mTeli gulis simware Semdeg sityvebSi gadmomca.

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Vako
 _ wlebi gava da mainc veyvarebiT, guls vatkenT da
mainc veyvarebiT, simwriT avavsebT da mainc veyvare­
biT, cxra mTis iqiT gaviqceviT da mainc veyvarebiT!
_ jeikob?!
_ ho megobaro?
_ yvelaze mniSvnelovani, risi gakeTeba SeuZlia ada­
mians Tavisi ojaxisTvis?
_ sakuTari drois Cuqeba. es aris is yvelaferi, ra­
sac Cveni sayvareli xalxi elodeba Cvengan.
_ sakuTari drois Cuqeba...
marTali xar jeikob, amaze mniSvnelovani xom aravis
araferi aqvs.

da isev siCumqe.
TiTqos saTqmeli amogvewura, TiTqos siCumem dag­
vamona.

bolo dialogi

_ wamomyevi!
_ sad, jeikob?
_ ubralod wamomyevi.
moxuci jeikobi wamodga, oTaxidan gavida, mec ukan
wamiyola da misi sasaxlis meore sarTulze uzarmazar
aivanze gamiyvana.
_ ai, aq minda yvelaferi, rom dasruldes.
_ ratom aq?
_ imitom, rom es mSvenieri xedi ...
ukve saRamos Camsvleli mzisken miiSvira TiTi jei­
kobma.
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 imitom, rom es mSvenieri xedi, sicocxlis ulev gan­
cdas maZlevs.
_ jeikob!
gamomxeda, gulianad, tkbilad gamiRima da mkiTxa.
_ ho megobaro, ra iyo?
_ roca sikvdilis dro modis, ra undeba adamians
yvelaze metad?
_ sicocxle, megobaro, sicocxle.
me Cems beber megobars neli nabijebiT mivuaxlov­
di, zurgs ukan davudeqi, Cemsken saxiT Semotrialeba
vTxove da mis TvalebSi Semxedvarem vkiTxe.
_ geSinia?
_ ki sikvdilo, Zalian meSinia.
_ male damTavrdeba, jeikob.
_ vici, megobaro. madloba Cemi bolo dialogisTvis.

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 sarCevi

me............................................................................................ 5
jeikobi.................................................................................. 6
miznebi..................................................................................11
TviTdajereba......................................................................23
afirmaca da meeqvse grZnoba..............................................35
rkinis mzera.........................................................................44
sirbili.................................................................................47
komfortis zona..................................................................54
orive xeliT wera................................................................61
seqsualuri energia.............................................................66
seqsi......................................................................................70
fuli.....................................................................................73
finansuri gegma...................................................................83
mdidari da Raribis azrovneba...........................................85
meditacia.............................................................................88
Wori, kritika, Suri............................................................98
Suri......................................................................................98
kritika............................................................................... 107
Wori.................................................................................... 111
tyuili................................................................................ 117
rwmena-religia................................................................... 122
gacemis kanoni.................................................................... 125
moTxovnis kanoni............................................................... 130
msxverpli-gamarjvebuli.................................................. 140
stereotipebi..................................................................... 154
xalxTan urTierToba........................................................ 158
xalxTan urTierToba-Rimili........................................... 159

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Seqeba.................................................................................. 162
siyvaruli........................................................................... 168
siyvaruli-individualurobis dakargva......................... 174
siyvaruli-eWvianoba.......................................................... 175
siyvaruli-akrZalvebi....................................................... 175
xalxTan urTierToba-erTguleba.................................... 179
xalxTan urTierToba-parazitebi.................................... 181
ideebi.................................................................................. 183
sayvareli saqme.................................................................. 187
lideri................................................................................ 194
lideri-enTuziazmi........................................................... 194
lideri-uflebamosilebis delegireba........................... 198
lideri-qeba........................................................................ 202
lideri-individualuroba................................................ 205
problema-SesaZlebloba................................................... 208
zrdiloba........................................................................... 214
ojaxi................................................................................... 221
bolo dialogi................................................................... 225

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