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When God Sees Red 1
Scene 2: Retrospect
Eighteen months earlier. A kitchen in a church basement. Counters full of
dirty dishes surround Greg and Kristin. An older woman, Joyce, exits to-
wards the tables clutching a damp washcloth. The din of guests shuffling
out to their cars gradually recedes.
Inadequate answers11
GREG: Whoa, Kristin! You’re fixating on one part of Scripture
and missing the big picture. God has the right to bring justice, but
more often, we see God’s love and mercy.12 One of my favourite
parts of Scripture tells how Yahweh is
a God merciful and gracious,
slow to anger,
and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness,
keeping steadfast love for the thousandth generation,
forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin,
yet by no means clearing the guilty,
but visiting the iniquity of the parents
upon the children
7. Num. 31:7–17.
8. Deut. 7:2, 16; 20:10–18.
9. Deut. 7:2, 16.
10. Walter Brueggemann, Revelation and Violence: A Study in Contextualization, 1986 Père
Marquette Theology Lecture (Milwaukee, WI: Marquette University Press, 1986), 7; Wesley
Morriston, “Did God Command Genocide? A Challenge to the Biblical Inerrantist,”
Philosophia Christi 11, no. 1 (2009): 19.
11. In what follows, I largely avoid retreading ground covered in my class seminar, Marshall
Janzen, “Review of Paul Copan’s Defense of Old Testament Massacres” (seminar presentation,
CAP 652: The Problem of Evil, ACTS Seminaries, November 26, 2014). In that review I argue it
is inadequate to claim that the Canaanites’ wickedness justified their slaughter, that the
exaggerated warfare rhetoric was not meant to be taken at face value, or that destroying
these nations was necessary to ultimately bless all nations.
12. Wright, Don’t Understand, 77.
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and the children’s children,
to the third and the fourth generation.13
KRISTIN: I still remember when you earned a whole line of stickers
for memorizing that in Mrs. Keys’ class.
GREG: The reason I got so many stickers is that those words
appear, more or less, in half a dozen different places written by
different authors. Back then I was all for shortcuts in getting the
most verses memorized! But do you see God’s bias towards love in
those words? A thousand generations compared to four!
KRISTIN: Say I have a boyfriend who gives me nice gifts and sweet
compliments far more often than he hits me. Would you be okay
with him?
GREG: Of course not! The difference is that God is our creator,
not just another person. Sometimes a cop might be justified in
hitting a thug (like that boyfriend), and God is more like the cop
than the thug.14
KRISTIN: I get that God has a right to take life and dish out justice. If
I didn’t, my Bible reading plan would have derailed by Genesis 6.
What bothers me is when God gets sinful people to do the dirty
work. Even if the Canaanites deserved destruction, why didn’t
God take care of it? God dealt with Sodom and Gomorrah, and
God promised to deal with the Canaanites!15
GREG: If God can use brimstone and pestilence, why not people?
KRISTIN: People are moral beings made in God’s image. God may
have a right to wipe out whole nations, but we don’t.16 If God
13. Exod. 34:6–7 (NRSV Anglicized, passim). See also Num. 14:18; Ps. 103:6–18; Jer. 32:17–19.
14. Wright, Don’t Understand, 93.
15. Gen. 19:24–25; Exod. 23:20–33; Lev. 18:24–28; Deut. 11:23. Eleonore Stump, “The Problem of
Evil and the History of Peoples: Think Amalek,” in Divine Evil? The Moral Character of the God
of Abraham, ed. Michael Bergmann, Michael J. Murray, and Michael C. Rea (Oxford: Oxford
University Press, 2013), 186–87; Butler, Skeletons, 231. Later summaries portray the conquest
as God’s gift rather than Israel’s work (e.g. Josh. 23:3; Ps. 44:1–3; Acts 13:19). Wright, Don’t
Understand, 90. A classic example of God fighting without human participation is 2 Chr. 20.
Susan Niditch, War in the Hebrew Bible: A Study in the Ethics of Violence (New York, NY:
Oxford University Press, 1993), 154.
16. Butler, Skeletons, 223–24, 263; Nicholas Wolterstorff, “Reading Joshua,” in Divine Evil? The
When God Sees Red 5
commands immorality … that’s immoral!
GREG: That assumes God commanded immorality. But God is
the source of morality. Anything God commands is moral because
God is entirely good.17 Given our limitations, we should expect
some of God’s higher wisdom to be above our pay grade.18
Joyce returns and wrings out a dirty dishcloth in the sink.
KRISTIN: I believe God is good too – that’s why I have trouble ac-
cepting that God could ever command genocide. If God’s good-
ness becomes our license for calling atrocities ethical, we’ve
bought into moral relativism and added a Christian veneer.19 You
know what bugs me? One of the few ways a respected scholar can
advocate genocide in print without losing their reputation is … do
it in a Christian book dealing with the Canaanites!20
I can’t match God’s wisdom, but the Bible leads me to expect I
can grasp something of God’s love.21 It’s dangerous to say God
Moral Character of the God of Abraham, ed. Michael Bergmann, Michael J. Murray, and
Michael C. Rea (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2013), 248.
17. Ps. 135:5–12. “[I]f God is all the Bible says he is, all that he does must be good – and that
includes his authorization of genocide.” Eugene H. Merrill, “The Case for Moderate
Discontinuity,” in Show Them No Mercy: 4 Views on God and Canaanite Genocide (Grand
Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2010), under “Conclusion,” Kindle.
18. Daniel L. Gard, “A Response to C. S. Cowles,” in Show Them No Mercy: 4 Views on God and
Canaanite Genocide (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2010), Kindle; John Calvin, Commentary
on the Book of Joshua, trans. Henry Beveridge (n.p.: Calvin Translation Society, 1854), 111,
Logos edition.
19. Thom Stark, The Human Faces of God: What Scripture Reveals When It Gets God Wrong (and
Why Inerrancy Tries to Hide It) (Eugene, OR: Wipf & Stock, 2011), under “Yahweh’s Quiet
Reserve,” Kindle.
If the sanctity of human life “can be set aside by a supposed divine ‘authorization of
genocide’ – then all moral and ethical absolutes are destroyed, all distinctions between good
and evil are rendered meaningless, and all claims about God’s love and compassion become
cruel deceptions.” C. S. Cowles, “A Response to Eugene H. Merrill,” in Show Them No Mercy: 4
Views on God and Canaanite Genocide (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2010), under
“Canaanite genocide was a righteous and holy act,” Kindle.
20. Philip Jenkins, Laying Down the Sword: Why We Can’t Ignore the Bible’s Violent Verses (New
York, NY: HarperOne, 2011), 118, Kindle. A key example, in which three of four authors call
Israel’s act genocide and yet still argue it was moral, is C. S. Cowles et al., Show Them No
Mercy: 4 Views on God and Canaanite Genocide (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2010), Kindle.
Cowles alone views genocide as fundamentally immoral.
21. I’ve covered this ground in earlier papers. See Marshall Janzen, “Under Our Skin: Clues of a
Communicative God in Widespread Transcendent Knowledge” (class paper, CAP 550:
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wants us to blindly obey even when commands appear immoral.
The Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda claims to be operating on
God’s orders, but we rightly condemn them as terrorists.22 If I
can’t reconcile a command with God’s goodness, I’d sooner ques-
tion whether it came from God than redefine goodness.23
GREG: I agree; we can’t redefine goodness. But are we sure what
Israel did was as horrible as it first looks? We like to say, “Those
poor Canaanites.” But they were the dominant player; they had
Egypt at their back.24 Canaan had the best weapons and strongest
fortresses. And Israel? Small potatoes – just defenceless slaves!
The story sounds different when you see how God used the un-
derdog to challenge the empire.25
KRISTIN: The Bible doesn’t describe Israel as hopelessly out-
matched. When battling Ai, they face defeat with too few fighters
but win the victory when they outnumber them.26 As I’ve checked
out books on this to find answers, I’ve come across some Chris-
tian writers who go in the opposite direction, arguing that most of
the Canaanite cities Israel fought were tiny. Richard Hess says Jer-
icho might’ve had mudbrick walls and fewer than a hundred de-
fenders.27 He claims Ai was already a ruin, so Israel faced a dozen
small fighting units who’d set up a makeshift fort.28 That’s not tak-
Scene 3: Recovery
Back to the present. Kristin and Greg find a table at the coffee shop.
GREG: What happened after that night? I remember breathing a
sigh of relief when you still showed up the next Tuesday for col-
lege and career. But by a few weeks later, you’d stopped coming –
though I was so self-absorbed I didn’t notice for months.
KRISTIN: That conversation shook me. I’d had other questions too,
but the violence in Joshua was the last straw. The religious an-
swers I heard and read seemed smug and overconfident. Nobody
took my questions seriously.
Then it hit me: taking these questions seriously was the death
29. Joyce’s argument echoes the sharpest thrusts from Eugene H. Merrill, “A Response to C. S.
Cowles,” in Show Them No Mercy: 4 Views on God and Canaanite Genocide (Grand Rapids, MI:
Zondervan, 2010), Kindle; Gard, “Response to Cowles”; Tremper Longman III, “A Response to
C. S. Cowles,” in Show Them No Mercy: 4 Views on God and Canaanite Genocide (Grand
Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2010), Kindle.
30. “The final judgement with its utter destruction of the heavens and the earth and all those at
enmity with God makes the most bloody warfare narratives of the Old Testament seem like
children’s bedtime stories.” Gard, “Response to Cowles.”
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of faith. There wasn’t a good answer, so all Christians could do
was coldly deny the problem or whitewash it over with half-baked
solutions. That realization blew away whatever small pieces re-
mained of my faith. And that was the last time I wasted time
thinking about the Canaanite conquest … until today!
GREG: I’m sorry I gave you bad answers. Thanks to you, I realized
my answers were inadequate, and I spent long hours trying to find
better ones. I’m also sorry I didn’t include you in that, especially
since we were both facing the same questions.
KRISTIN: Enough with being sorry! I forgive you. It’s water under
the bridge.
GREG: Okay, thanks. … Kristin, can I ask you a favour? I know I’m
eighteen months late, but can I have a mulligan on that conversa-
tion? I’d like to run some newer ideas by you.
KRISTIN: Another round talking about genocide and God? (Sighs.)
Why not. I want to keep an open mind – but as they say, not so
open my brain falls out. I’ll hear you out, but don’t be disappoint-
ed if what worked for you doesn’t work for me.
31. J. M. Miller and John H. Hayes, A History of Ancient Israel and Judah (Louisville, KY:
Westminster John Knox Press, 1986), 72; Jenkins, Laying Down the Sword, 56; Trent C. Butler,
Joshua, Word Biblical Commentary 7 (Dallas, TX: Word, 1984), xl, Logos edition.
32. Num. 21:21–31; Deut. 1:4; 2:24–35; 29:7; Josh. 12:1–6.
33. Collins, Hebrew Bible, 187. For a hopeful spin on the same data, see Iain Provan, V. P. Long,
and Tremper Longman III, A Biblical History of Israel (Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox
Press, 2003), 183–84.
34. Seventh Day Adventists sponsored the Heshbon excavation of 1968–76. “Much to their
consternation, however, the town turned out to be founded only in the Iron II period – long
after any supposed conquest. There were only a few scattered remains of the 12th–11th
century B.C. (pottery, but no architecture), and no trace whatsoever of occupation in the
13th century B.C. The excavators resolutely published their results, however, and reluctantly
conceded that something was drastically wrong with the biblical story about Heshbon.”
William G. Dever, Who Were the Early Israelites, and Where Did They Come From? (Grand
Rapids, MI: William B. Eerdmans, 2003), 30–31. Southern Baptist biblical scholars uncovered
the Dibon findings in the 1950s. Dever, Early Israelites, 31–32.
35. Josh. 2:1–24; 4:13; 6:1–27.
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walls tumbled centuries before Israel arrived.36 At the time of
Joshua, the evidence suggests only squatters called Jericho’s ruins
home.37
Next is Ai. Here the Israelites first face defeat and then, after
exposing the sin of one of their own, win a victory.38 The only
problem is that Ai fell a millennium before Israel arrived and lay
unoccupied until a small Israelite settlement in the 12th or 11th
century BC.39 The name Ai means ruin, and the city identified as
Ai would have been an impressive ruin in Joshua’s day.40
After Ai, Joshua records how Gibeon’s people trick Israel into
forging a treaty and then receive Israel’s assistance in repelling an
Amorite attack.41 While the Bible describes Gibeon as a “large
city,” it appears to have been virtually unoccupied until centuries
later.42
36. “The problem of Jericho has to do not so much with the material findings as with the dates
assigned to these findings.” Provan, Long, and Longman, Biblical History, 174. Bryant Wood
reinterpreted the dates of Jericho pottery fragments and aligned ancient Jericho’s zenith
(known as City IV) with Joshua’s conquest. Provan, Long, and Longman, Biblical History, 175–
76; David M. Howard, Joshua, New American Commentary 5 (Nashville, TN: Broadman &
Holman, 1998), 178, Logos edition. This proposal undermines Hess’ view of a sparsely
populated Jericho whose fall entailed few casualties (see note 27). In 1995, radiocarbon
analysis upheld the consensus view and conclusively discredited Wood’s proposal by dating
remains of Jericho’s City IV to the 17th–16th centuries BC. Hendrik J. Bruins and Johannes van
der Plicht, “Tell Es-Sultan (Jericho): Radiocarbon Results of Short-Lived Cereal and Multiyear
Charcoal Samples from the End of the Middle Bronze Age,” Radiocarbon 37, no. 2 (1995).
37. Provan, Long, and Longman, Biblical History, 176; Dever, Early Israelites, 45–47; Allen C. Myers,
ed., The Eerdmans Bible Dictionary (Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1987), s.v. “Jericho,” Logos
edition. It is possible a settlement in the correct era eroded without a trace, but such a
hypothesis is constructed to be both unfalsifiable and unsupportable by evidence.
38. Josh. 7:1–8:29.
39. Myers, Eerdmans Bible Dictionary, s.v. “Ai”; Provan, Long, and Longman, Biblical History, 176–
77. Suggested hypotheses to accommodate this evidence include that “Ai, with its massive
old walls, was used as a temporary stronghold by the surrounding population; but the
account points rather to an inhabited town with its own king. While it is possible that Ai is to
be located elsewhere, no completely satisfactory solution has yet been proposed.” A. R.
Millard, “Ai,” in New Bible Dictionary, 3rd ed., ed. D. R. W. Wood and I. H. Marshall (Leicester,
England: InterVarsity Press, 1996), 22, Logos edition. Key evidence supporting Ai’s desolation
during the time of Joshua came from “Joseph Callaway, an American archaeologist and
Southern Baptist Theological Seminary professor.” Dever, Early Israelites, 47.
40. Dever, Early Israelites, 47.
41. Josh. 9:1–17; 10:1–14; 11:19.
42. Josh. 10:2. Provan, Long, and Longman, Biblical History, 183–84; Dever, Early Israelites, 48–49.
When God Sees Red 11
Hazor is the last of the key cities: here the northern Canaanites
band together and attack Israel, but Israel prevails and burns the
city, killing everyone within.43 At first, archaeology seems to sup-
port this account. In this era, Hazor was an impressive city with a
population upwards of 20,000, and enemies burned the city many
times.44 The trouble is that after the most comprehensive razing,
Hazor remained unoccupied until the 10th century BC.45 This
doesn’t fit how the book of Judges speaks of Hazor’s king a few
generations later.46
KRISTIN: Wow, information overload! I get the picture: most of
those cities didn’t exist for Israel to massacre. But if Israel didn’t
really kill scads of Canaanites, what happened to them? Next are
you going to tell me the Canaanites never existed?
GREG: No, Canaanites lived in Palestine, but by the 10th century
BC, they’re gone.47 Already by the 12th century, a new presence is
emerging in the hill country that at first is nearly indistinguishable
from the Canaanites.48 A telltale lack of pig bones around some
settlements ties these people to the Israelites.49 Many theories try
to explain how they supplanted the Canaanites, the old favourites
being conquest, peasant revolt, or peaceful infiltration.50 But since
51. Jenkins, Laying Down the Sword, 57; Collins, Hebrew Bible, 190; Dever, Early Israelites, 153–54.
This model differs from peasant revolt in not basing the division on class warfare.
52. Jenkins, Laying Down the Sword, 58.
53. Myers, Eerdmans Bible Dictionary, s.v. “Conquest.”
54. Collins, Hebrew Bible, 191. On Hebrew as a Canaanite language, see Gary A. Anderson, “What
About the Canaanites?” in Divine Evil? The Moral Character of the God of Abraham, ed.
Michael Bergmann, Michael J. Murray, and Michael C. Rea (Oxford: Oxford University Press,
2013), 271; Jenkins, Laying Down the Sword, 60.
55. Monson, “Enter Joshua,” under “The Background of the Debate.”
56. Louise Antony, “Comments on ‘Reading Joshua’,” in Divine Evil? The Moral Character of the
God of Abraham, ed. Michael Bergmann, Michael J. Murray, and Michael C. Rea (Oxford:
Oxford University Press, 2013), 260.
When God Sees Red 13
GREG: There’s a big difference between genocide and bragging of
genocide – especially if you’re claiming to have eradicated your
own people.57 And we need to know what a story is trying to ac-
complish before we judge its historical accuracy. … But I’m getting
ahead of myself. This is only the first piece of the puzzle. We have
two more to get on the table.
KRISTIN: Let me grab a refill first. Then let’s see these other pieces.
Kristin approaches the counter at a lull and quickly returns with her drink.
57. Luke Muehlhauser, “Matt Flannagan on the Genocide of the Canaanites,” Common Sense
Atheism, September 3, 2010, under “Parting Thoughts,” par. 4, accessed December 10, 2014,
http://commonsenseatheism.com/?p=10992.
58. “I take it to be a near-consensus among Old Testament scholars that the text of Joshua as we
have it today was intended as a component in the larger sequence consisting of
Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges, 1 and 2 Samuel, and 1 and 2 Kings. […] It is also a near-
consensus that this sequence of writings received its near-final form during the reign of King
Josiah and reflects the religious reforms that he initiated; and that it received its final form
during the Exile in Babylon.” Wolterstorff, “Reading Joshua,” 249. Similarly, see Walter
Brueggemann, Deuteronomy, Abingdon Old Testament Commentaries (Nashville, TN:
Abingdon Press, 2001), 18; John Goldingay, Joshua, Judges, and Ruth for Everyone, Old
Testament for Everyone (Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox Press, 2011), 4; Gordon
Matties, Joshua, Believers Church Bible Commentary (Harrisonburg, VA: Herald Press, 2012),
405–06, Logos edition; Butler, Joshua, xlii, xxiii; Alexander Rofé, “The Laws of Warfare in the
Book of Deuteronomy: Their Origins, Intent and Positivity,” Journal for the Study of the Old
Testament, no. 32 (1985): 23; Richard D. Nelson, “Josiah in the Book of Joshua,” Journal of
Biblical Literature 100, no. 4 (1981): 531–40; Collins, Hebrew Bible, 64, 162, 184; Miller and
Hayes, History, 63; Dever, Early Israelites, 8, 38; Mazani, “Israel in Canaan,” 96; Jenkins, Laying
Down the Sword, 50–53; Eric A. Seibert, Disturbing Divine Behavior: Troubling Old Testament
Images of God (Minneapolis, MN: Fortress Press, 2009), 107.
59. “Noth’s thesis of a Deuteronomistic History was to capture the imagination of almost all
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KRISTIN: Do I sound like an evangelical fundy?
GREG: No. … Okay, I guess I don’t need to convince you about
this one. Now if Pastor Curtis were here, I’d need to go through all
the supporting detail …60
KRISTIN: Spare me. Didn’t I suffer enough during your archaeology
lesson? Let’s keep moving.
GREG: Right. Just let me mention another way you helped set me
on the right track in our last conversation. Remember how you
said God promised to wipe out the Canaanites for Israel, but later
texts show Israel doing the fighting? As I’m sure you know, that’s
just one of many examples where the biblical accounts don’t speak
with one voice.
Some parts of Joshua claim Israel took all the land at one time,
while earlier and later texts say God will or did give them the land
slowly.61 Different parts of Joshua disagree over whether Hebron
and Debir fell to Joshua or to Caleb and his brother.62 Right within
the same story, there are different descriptions of a monument of
twelve stones.63
KRISTIN: Hey, I’m already convinced. I know there are contradic-
71. In other words, this strand within Joshua encourages us to read Deuteronomy the way Copan
does, in which “The ban allowed – and hoped for – exceptions,” and God was “more
concerned about the destruction of Canaanite religion and idols than Canaanite peoples.”
Copan, Moral Monster, 175, 178. The difference is that Copan believes this was also the
original – though sadly unstated – intent of passages such as Deut. 7:1–4 and 20:10–18. I
believe this strand of Joshua calls us to a reading that rehabilitates these problematic texts
even though on their own they are truly problematic.
72. Josh. 1:17 (emphasis added).
73. Josh. 13:1, 13; 15:63; 16:10; 17:12–13.
74. Josh. 23:4–13. This is also the direction followed by Ezra–Nehemiah (e.g. Ezra 9:1–2). Earl,
“Christian Significance,” 45.
75. See especially Josh. 8:33, 35.
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Our different reality
GREG: I’ll try! The last piece is that we live in a radically different
world from both the one Joshua depicts and the one in which it
was written. This seems obvious, but it was a watershed idea for
me – so many insights flow from it. Taking it seriously diverts us
from ethnocentric streams of thinking. It showers—
KRISTIN: Yeah, funny with the fluid imagery … but not helping.
You’re down to four minutes.
GREG: Right. To keep this short, I’ll speak in generalities without
making a bunch of qualifications. Today, history is king. We have
respectable vocations such as historian and archaeologist to un-
cover what happened in the past. When we read a story, often our
first thought is, “Is it true?” We want the facts, the unvarnished
scientific truth.
KRISTIN: Some of us like poetry, historical fiction, and period mov-
ies that completely mess with the past, but yeah, I get what you’re
saying.
GREG: Fair enough. Since this is what we generally value, we
assume a Bible inspired by God must provide it.76 Historical rec-
ords in Scripture should meet, if not exceed, our standards of ac-
curacy, drawing on God’s omniscient view to fill in the pieces
people didn’t witness.77 We don’t pass judgement when the Bible’s
psalmists write of their raw emotion or even evil desires – better
they take it to God than keep it bottled up – but we have no leni-
ency for human weakness in the Bible’s historians.78 And modern
Christians tend to view Joshua to Esther (and even the Penta-
teuch) as historical books compiled by God’s inspired historians.
Some parts may provide enduring lessons or moral principles, but
primarily these books reveal what happened in an unrepeatable
79. The “spiritual use of Old Testament narratives is secondary and derivative. Their primary
form is simply historical narrative.” Wright, Don’t Understand, 84.
80. Philip R. Davies, Memories of Ancient Israel: An Introduction to Biblical History – Ancient and
Modern (Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox Press, 2008), 142.
81. Davies, Memories, 105.
82. “While the use of direct speech is not acceptable in today’s modern canon of history writing
unless it is a quote, in ancient history writing direct speech was quite common.” Even a work
intending to recall actual events could use creativity in its speeches, since without it the story
would be fragmentary and incoherent. K. L. Younger Jr., Ancient Conquest Accounts: A Study
in Ancient Near Eastern and Biblical History Writing, Journal for the Study of the Old
Testament Supplement Series 98 (Sheffield, England: JSOT Press, 1990), 36–37, e-book. See
also Matties, Joshua, 22, 26. The poetic soliloquies of Job’s friends provide an extreme
example of creativity with speeches.
83. “[C]ultural memory is the result of an ongoing negotiation or struggle between competing
individual and collective memories, which involves amnesia, distortion, perspectivation, and
recall.” Kofoed, “Cultural Memory,” par. 1. See also Davies, Memories, 111, 122; Younger,
Ancient Conquest Accounts, 31–33.
84. “Cultural memory provides a better conceptual tool than history, myth, or tradition for
classifying the biblical narratives about the past because it better reflects the ways in which
the past was understood and utilized in ancient societies.” Davies, Memories, 122. Likewise,
Kofoed, “Cultural Memory,” under “Conclusion.”
When God Sees Red 19
idence the conquest didn’t happen as Joshua describes it, but in-
stead Canaanites became Israelites. Second, books like Joshua
were written way after the fact, and they preserve different views
about the past. And now, you’re saying these weren’t so much
competing histories, but stories that expressed different ideas
about who God and Israel were and what Israel needed to do next.
GREG: Wow, you were really listening! The stories had some
measure of connection to events in the past, but not at the level of
modern history. When we realize they weren’t trying to compile
our kind of history, the contradictions between stories aren’t as
big of a deal.85 When Jesus spoke about the shepherd seeking the
lost sheep, the woman finding the lost coin, and the father wel-
coming the lost son, we know better than to mash all the details
into a single picture. God isn’t literally a shepherd, woman, and
father rolled into one!
Similarly, when we view all the strands of story in Joshua as
mainly trying to speak to the present while taking liberties in how
they use spotty knowledge of the past, we won’t fixate on compil-
ing them into a cohesive view of Israel’s past. We won’t expect a
story spun around the enduring ruins of Jericho and Ai to line up
with modern archaeology. Who really cares whether Joshua or
Caleb took Hebron, or in which century Jerusalem came into Isra-
elite hands? Those details faded into the mists of time while the
storytellers grappled with explaining their very real deportation
from the land in their own day.86
KRISTIN: That’s useful, but it doesn’t make all the problems go
away. When I get back, show me why I should view Joshua as
more than a flawed and immoral ancient text.
85. “Ancient people knew how to tell and use stories. Many of us, however, because of our
exposure to scientific ways of thinking, have an impaired ability to read and interpret stories
as stories.” Wilma A. Bailey, “Thoughts on Eric Seibert’s Disturbing Divine Behavior,” Direction:
A Mennonite Brethren Forum 40, no. 2 (2011), accessed November 8, 2014,
http://www.directionjournal.org/40/2/thoughts-on-eric-seiberts-idisturbing.html.
86. Wolterstorff, “Reading Joshua,” 250; Collins, Hebrew Bible, 204; Brueggemann, Deuteronomy,
19.
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Scene 2: Minding the gap
KRISTIN: Greg, I’ve learned a lot tonight. I wouldn’t call the book of
Joshua evil anymore – just misguided and easy to abuse. I’m still
wondering how you can view it as Holy Scripture.
Rehabilitating Joshua
GREG: I’m not entirely at peace with Joshua either, and before we
leave I want to show how other writers of Scripture seem to feel
the same way. But first, I want to make sure we realize how that
stuff we talked about really changes things. The gaps matter,
whether between archaeology and Joshua’s depiction, between the
writing of Joshua and its setting, or between our cultural expecta-
tions of stories and theirs. When we mind the gap, we’ll see Joshua
in a new light. Just compare how we think of Tolkien: was he vio-
lent and immoral for writing The Lord of the Rings? The novels
contain plenty of violence, some of it verging on genocide. Those
poor orcs get decimated!
KRISTIN: No, not the same thing. Tolkien made up the orcs.
GREG: And Canaanites didn’t exist in the time Joshua was writ-
ten! Or more accurately, they existed as different people groups,
including some people who called themselves Israelites.87
I’m a Mennonite by birth and upbringing, but I’ve since de-
fected to the Evangelical Free Church. I’ve left some key markers
of being Mennonite behind, but I still make perishki in the sum-
mer and wareneki every now and then. More to the point, I still
sometimes tell Mennonite jokes. I’m allowed; it’s my heritage.
KRISTIN: Are you implying the Israelites still have the right to tell
Canaanite jokes, and the conquest stories are their biggest punch
line?
GREG: Israel seems to use Canaanites as punching bags more
than punch lines, but yes, I think they have more right to do so
than someone smearing an outside, still-existing group. But this
goes deeper than jokes or insults. Whether it intends to or not,
Joshua reveals a huge insight when read in light of archaeology.
87. Canaanites also became assimilated into other groups, such as the Philistines.
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The people of Israel needed to kill their inner Canaanite to retain
their identity as Yahweh’s people and have a hope for the future,
even after exile.88 The seven nations they were commanded to de-
stroy didn’t exist anymore, but Israel still found polytheistic cul-
tures seductive, whether in the Babylonians around them or in
their Canaanite heritage.89
KRISTIN: Yeah, a figurative reading is better, but nobody would
have read the text that way before we discovered that things didn’t
happen like a straight reading claims.
GREG: Not so. Until the last few centuries, figurative or typologi-
cal readings of Joshua dominated.90 In the early church, the
strongest voice for taking Joshua historically was Marcion – and
he wanted to reject the Old Testament because it made God look
repulsive and immoral.91 People like Gregory of Nyssa and Origen
countered that Marcion’s reading was childish: we need to go be-
yond a flat interpretation to understand God’s revelation through
these texts.92 Joshua’s story had violence, just as The Lord of the
Rings does, but these stories teach us about a different kind of
Transcending Joshua
KRISTIN: I can see how Joshua would look different to those on the
outside. But still, the violence is there within it. Many Christians
who read Joshua are on the inside. Many believe the slaughter it
describes really happened – without exaggeration and with God’s
fact that Joshua and Jesus share the same name – a feature prominent in patristic
interpretation.” Auld, “Former Prophets,” 71–72.
116. Acts 7:45 uses Joshua’s name to indicate the timeframe (similar to saying “In the day of King
Herod”). Heb. 4:8 reveals that Joshua did not bring the people rest.
117. “These stories offend our moral sensibilities. […] The Bible itself inculcates the values which
these stories seem to violate.” William L. Craig, “Q & A: Slaughter of the Canaanites,”
Reasonable Faith, August 6, 2007, accessed November 4, 2014,
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/slaughter-of-the-canaanites.
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ogy that includes Rahab, pointing out that Jesus shares her Ca-
naanite blood.118 So much for maintaining a separation between
Canaanites and Israelites as Deuteronomy and later Ezra insisted!
Matthew emphasizes that the very Messiah of Israel, God in the
flesh, was part Canaanite. Later on, Matthew tells of Jesus meeting
a Canaanite woman—119
KRISTIN: I thought the Canaanites were long gone by this time!
GREG: They are. Mark calls the woman a Syrophoenician, so
Matthew is making a point by instead calling her a Canaanite.120
Matthew invites us to view this woman as one of those people
God apparently wanted exterminated along with their children.121
And what does Jesus do? After an awkward conversation, he
praises her great faith and heals her child!122
Matthew also draws out how Jesus is like a new-and-improved
Moses.123 The whole book is structured around five collections of
Jesus’ teaching, much like the Pentateuch with its five books of
Moses. Jesus echoes Moses’ life as he eludes a royal edict to kill
male children by finding safety in Egypt, goes up a mountain to
give his keynote, fasts for forty days, and glows during a heavenly
mountaintop experience.124
But Jesus doesn’t merely imitate Moses; he goes beyond him.
Remember how Joshua claimed to fulfill Moses’ words while shift-
ing their meaning? Jesus takes this to the next level. I didn’t see
this until I started balancing my Scripture memorization with a
few more of the red letters, such as in Matthew’s version of the
Sermon on the Mount. Jesus first claims to completely fulfill the
125. Matt. 5:17–18, 27–42. Compare the Old Testament texts on divorce (Deut. 24:1–4), oaths
and vows (Deut. 6:13; 10:20; Num. 30), and the commands to exact retribution (Deut. 19:21;
Lev. 24:19–20; Exod. 21:23–25).
126. Matt. 5:43–45.
127. Deut. 7:2, 16; Matt. 5:7.
128. Josh. 1:6; Matt. 5:5 (the same word refers to either land or earth) ; cf. Ps. 37:11. Matties, Joshua,
33–34.
129. Jesus states, “It was because you were so hard-hearted that Moses allowed you to divorce
your wives, but at the beginning it was not so” (Matt. 19:8, emphasis added). The legislation
about divorce (Deut. 24:1–4) is in the section enclosed by 12:1 and 26:16: “This very day the
LORD your God is commanding you to observe these statutes and ordinances; so observe
them diligently with all your heart and with all your soul.”
130. “Any theological construct, no matter how many biblical texts may be lined up in its support,
that does not have the cross at its center is not only anti-Christ but dangerous.” Cowles,
“Response to Merrill.”
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131
sessing and separating from the nations before them. Jesus’ last
commission to his disciples could not be more different.132 It
comes after his death – and resurrection. He speaks with authori-
ty, promises to be with them always, and commands this hand-
picked team of Jewish followers to make disciples of all nations.133
In these words, he rebukes the path attributed to Moses and Josh-
ua and shows himself to be the better way.
Please, Kristin, don’t give up on Jesus because of Joshua. I
think Jesus shared – and inspired – the moral sensibilities that
lead you to reject a face-value, historical reading of Joshua. As I
said earlier, there’s plenty within Joshua itself to lead us beyond
that kind of reading. But whenever anyone tries to reduce Joshua
to a flat history lesson revealing how God commanded Israel to
deal with their enemies, Jesus provides a far clearer image of God.
Our churches need more people like you willing stand with Jesus,
even if that means standing against Joshua.
— fin —
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