618123, 1559 (70) ,Cudles son las no conformidades menores y mayores planleadas por os auciiores de IS027001? | Linkedin Hs & 2 9 & & Emplee—Meretes Notfencones Ye fia iCuales son las no conformidades menores y mayores planteadas por los auditores de 1SO27001? asa seariatoe C7 Sigurd g Expert en 15027001 yider de opin Y Siauiend 5 6ejuio de 2023 Esto es desde el punto de vista de los auditores de certificacion 1$027001 que realizan sus auditorias. No conformidades Estos se definen en 1S017021, que son las reglas sobre cémo deben operar los organismos de certificacién "3.11 no conformidad.. Incumplimiento de un requisito 3.12 major nonconformity. Nonconformity that affects the capability of the management system to achieve the intended results Note 1 to entry: Nonconformities could be classtied as major in the following circumstances: * there isa signficant doubt that effective process control isin place, or that products or services will meet hips: iokedin.comipulselwhatminormajornon-confrmites-alsedis02700"-audtors-cris-halltrackinglS=SiWwNTNn4dOLg2MroXtsute.. 161823, 1559 (70) .Cusles son las no conformidades menores y mayores planlsadas por los autores de 15027001? | Lirkedln specified requirements, * a.number of minor nonconformities associated with the same requirement or issue could demonstrate a systemic failure and thus constitute a major nonconformity. 3.13 minor nonconformity. Nonconformity that does not affect the capability of the management system to achieve the intended results’ I an auditor raises a major nonconformity during an audit this could stop the organisation getting their certificate or if they already have the certificate this could lead to the certificate being withdrawn. Within reason is it OK to have minor nonconformities. Requirements and audit criteria 'S027006 which is a more specific version of IS017021 for 'S027001 states this "9.13.6 IS 9.1.3 Certification audit criteria. The criteria against which the ISMS cf client is audited shall be the ISMS standard ISO/IEC 27001." @. from an IS027001 certification perspective the only “requirements” are clauses 4 to 10 of ISO27001. Le. nonconformities must be raised against something in clauses 4 to 10 of ISO27001. Certification auditors raising nonconformities Note that ISO17021 also says this "9.45.3 A finding of nonconformity shall be recorded against a specfic requirement, and shall contain a clear statement of the nonconformity identifying in detail the objective evidence on which the nonconformity is based. Nonconformities shall be discussed with the client ensure that the evidence is accurate and that the nonconformities are understood. The auditor however shall refrain from suggesting the cause of nonconformities or their solution.” tis fair to say that not all certification auditors are as diligent about doing this as they should be. ‘5017021 also says quite a lot more than this about nonconformities. The content of 15017021 and 1SO27006 hitps:lwwu linkedin com/pulsehwhat-minor-major-non-conformites-raised-is02700' -audttrs-chrs-hall?irackingld=SitwNTNn4@Q.g2MrcXksuQ%s.... 2141823, 1559 (70) .Cusles son las no conformidades menores y mayores planlsadas por los autores de 15027001? | Lirkedln right be useful to organisations being audited to know what the certification bodies and certification auditors are doing and why. Summary This is saying what most IS027001 people (notably certification auditors) should already know but it is worth reflecting on this from time to time. Chris A list of my article is here: https://www-btrp.co.uk/Articles2 Denuncia este Publicado por chs Hal ec artclos GUY pe hough ti What are miner and major nan conforms s raise by 027007 autos? 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