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The Strategic Dialogue Rendering The Diagnostic Intreview A Real Therapeutic Intervention (Giorgio Nardone, Giorgio Salvini Etc.)
The Strategic Dialogue Rendering The Diagnostic Intreview A Real Therapeutic Intervention (Giorgio Nardone, Giorgio Salvini Etc.)
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1 The strategic dialogue in action: examples of
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211 It is with great pleasure that I present this masterwork, which I con-
1 sider to be a fundamental contribution to the evolution of brief
2 therapy.
3 The strategic dialogue, as defined by the authors, is in fact the
4 synthesis of the evolution of ancient rhetoric and modern pragma-
5 tism in communication, the noble Art of Stratagems and the appli-
6 cation of Ericksonian hypotheses to the clinical field.
7 Further gratification derives from the fact that Giorgio Nardone,
8 with whom I had the pleasure of working for more than fifteen
9 years, until my retirement from my profession, and with whom I
30 founded the Centre of Strategic Therapy in Arezzo, has been able
1 once more to develop new ideas and to put together further origi-
2 nal therapeutic techniques, which render this work both innovative
3 and seminal.
4 Moreover, one should not ignore the fact that Nardone was
5 responsible for turning the Institute in Arezzo into an international
6 point of reference in the scientific advancement of brief therapy,
7 thanks to the research work and clinical application carried out
8 together with his always expanding group of collaborators around
911 the globe.
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211 This book represents both the starting and finishing line of all of the
1 research, clinical practice, and managerial consulting performed by
2 professors Giorgio Nardone and Paul Watzlawick over a fifteen-
3 year period at the Centre of Strategic Therapy in Arezzo (Centro di
4 Terapia Strategica di Arezzo). This work is the result of the com-
5 bined efforts and contributions of not only the authors of this book,
6 but also of other colleagues, collaborators, scholars, and patients
7 from all over the world, many of whom were often unaware of the
8 help they provided during our dialogues.
9 This work can be referred to as the finishing line of our work
30 because the strategic dialogue, an advanced therapeutic method of
1 conducting a therapy session and inducing radical changes rapidly
2 in the patient, represents the culmination of all that has been
3 achieved so far in the field. The strategic dialogue is a fine strategy
4 by which one can achieve maximum results with minimum effort. It was
5 developed through a natural evolutionary process from previous
6 treatments for particular pathologies, and is composed of thera-
7 peutic stratagems and specific sequences of ad hoc manoeuvres con-
8 structed for different types of problems. It was through the
911 dramatically efficient and effective successes of these therapeutic
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111 protocols that we devised the strategic dialogue, and turned the
2 first therapy session into a true change-inducing intervention rather
3 than a mere preliminary “diagnostic” or “assessment” phase. Thus
4 the “assessment” questions became very strategic, the therapist’s
5 paraphrasing became highly reframing, and the language became
6 highly evocative of sensations in order to produce immediate
7 change in the patient even as the therapist was “merely assessing”
8 the problem in the first session. Finally, the therapeutic prescrip-
9 tions, homework typically given by a strategic therapist at the end
10 of a session, became the spontaneous evolution of the dialogue, not
1 just an abrupt assignment bearing no obvious relation to the pre-
2 senting problem, as patients sometimes perceive. In this way, by
3 knowing a problem through its solution, a constructivist method of
4 research, the logical operative and strategic means of conducting
5 the first, and often only, therapy session, emerged. It should be
6 noted that while we use the terms therapy session and patient, the
711 same method also applies to managerial consultancy encounters
8 and coaching clients.
9 On the other hand, this book is also a starting point. The estab-
20 lishment of, and experimentation with, the strategic dialogue has
1 opened up new and promising prospects for research and interven-
2 tion concerning its power to promote change and its application to
3 different contexts. From our point of view, all of this is due to a
4 method that induces change, not as the product of the “expert’s”
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6 covery of two individuals through a dialogue that was purposely
7 structured to fulfil this objective.
8 In this way, we completely nullify the natural resistance present
9 in all individual or extended human systems, which tends to
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1 logical equilibrium. In fact, by using the strategic dialogue, we can
2 transform a limit into a resource. The therapist, just like a wise
3 strategist, can use very subtle manoeuvres to guide his patient into
4 feeling like the main protagonist of the scene; and in this way the
5 latter becomes more easily persuaded of what he has come to feel
6 and discover.
7 We believe that the “magic” of this technique resides in its innate
8 quality, consistent with the Wisdoms of the Hellenic tradition: not
911 too much, just enough.
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4 n The Philosophy of Santayana (1950), Bertrand Russell presents
5 Santayana’s proposal to discover the forgotten, based on the
6 idea that there is “nothing new under these skies if not the
7 forgotten”. These words are very valid for the most modern, yet
8 most ancient form of persuasive communication: the dialogue.
9 This is why we chose to start our exposition with a brief histori-
30 cal review regarding the use of the dialogue as an instrument of
1 persuasion, in both written and verbal communication.
2 The use of this rhetorical device as a strategic technique has its
3 roots in the history of civilization. The etymological meaning of the
4 word dialogue, dia-logos, is a discourse between two; the exchange
5 or encounter of intelligence (Von Foerster, 1993), referring to an act
6 of communication through which a new knowledge is acquired,
7 and coming to discover together something more than that which
8 one could ever discover alone. It is not by chance that the dia-
911 logue is the most used expository form in scientific, religious, and
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111 what had happened to Protagoras had also happened to even his
2 most famous rival, Socrates. The irony of fate would lead the two
3 thinkers, though rivals in great contrast to one another, to the same
4 condemnation: sentenced to death for impiety.
5 As affirmed by Gorge, another great sophist, the Protagoran
6 dialogue was a useful instrument to convince the interlocutor of
7 whichever thesis the Sophist desired.
8 It was Socrates who first proposed the dialectic. The dialectic is
9 a dialogue orientated towards the search for the “truth”, and this is
10 quite independent of the individual’s point of view. His technique
1 consisted of embracing the argument of the interlocutor in a hypo-
2 thetical form, and then using questions and answers to come to
3 prove how these led to nothing, or to some absurd conclusion. The
4 intent was to throw the interlocutor into confusion, while high-
5 lighting the invalidity of his argument and thus inducing him to
6 search for the “truth”. And yet, according to the ancient testi-
711 monies, when a young Socrates was invited by a friend to assist
8 with one of Protagoras’s performances, he ran out of arguments
9 during the dispute and came close to physically attacking Pro-
20 tagoras. It is easy to understand why Socrates later began using the
1 rhetorical techniques of Protagoras, even though he never really
2 cited him, always professing great opposition to his ideas.
3 While Protagoras and the Sophists were erased from history,
4 accused of having been mystifiers of the word, the Socratic method
511 persisted and influenced Western thought. Nearly all philosophical
6 thinking follows Socrates, since he was the initiator of the inves-
7 tigative method based on thinking. His famous affirmation “know
8 thyself” endures as the foundation of the idea that to change some-
9 thing one needs to get to know it.
311 Thus began the historical–philosophical period of Rationalism.
1 With it came the hypothesis that it is possible, through logical–ratio-
2 nal procedures, to understand phenomena, to explain them, and,
3 consequently, to intervene in them. This gave rise, together with
4 Nietzsche, to what we could call “the rationalist illusion”.
5 However, it might seem grotesque to reveal that it was actually
6 Socrates who gave rise to the rationalist tradition. He is said to have
7 been visited by a “demon” that inspired him with new arguments;
8 in other words he heard “voices” which guided him: thus, his
911 reasonableness was stirred from unreasonableness (Cioran, 1993).
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111 off with the most inquisitive accusations made against the Sophists,
2 whom he defines as dishonest liars in his Sophistic Refutations,
3 Aristotle proposes to his prince a series of communication tech-
4 niques, decisively “Sophistic”; for example, “if you need to
5 persuade somebody, use his own arguments”.
6 One has to jump ahead to the founding of the Catholic church
7 and its first medieval university to find another excellent example
8 of the use of the dialogue as a form of persuasive rhetoric, in both
9 texts and verbal disputes. In fact, the dialogue, the debate, and the
10 discussion of theses through their oppositions and their alternatives
1 are the bases of the search for knowledge and the truth of the
2 “Scholastic Philosophy”: medieval Christian philosophy.
3 Consequently, numerous rhetorical strategies were developed to
4 successfully uphold intellectual arguments; structured in this way
5 the dialogue became the instrument that brought man to accept the
6 “truth” revealed in sacred writings. In this way the “religious
711 dialogue” flourished: in verbal disputes between theologians about
8 the church dogma and in the writing of ecclesiastical treatises. In
9 addition to this, we find the literary form of dilemmas to be solved;
20 the insolubilia dialogues between God and the devil. In the dialogue
1 between the demonic figure that is always evil, that manipulates
2 underhandedly, and the figure of God, that is always magnani-
3 mous, the scholars propose “insoluble” dilemmas to arrive at the
4 conclusion that there are two possibilities: both good and bad exist,
511 which side are you on? What might come as a surprise is the
6 persuasive game created by the scholars and its use in many of their
7 dissertations: the illusion of alternatives, the alternative between
8 good and bad. A specific dialogue that holds all the truth within its
9 two possibilities, yet it implicitly proposes one choice: good.
311 However, even back then somebody had rebelled against the
1 “absolute truth” and was led to this conclusion through learned
2 reasoning. He did so by using the same weapon as his enemies: the
3 paradoxical dialogue. He is anonymous, since he was branded a
4 heretic for proposing the dilemma in which the devil nails his rival,
5 God, with an unsolvable request: “if you are omnipotent, then
6 create a boulder so big that not even you can lift it”. If God cannot
7 lift the boulder, then he is not omnipotent, but he if he cannot create
8 it, then he is also not omnipotent. Even beyond this irreverent
911 example, medieval scholars promoted a unique persuasive work
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111 1993; Helman, 2001). The most important discoveries that have
2 changed the history of humanity have been presented, from a
3 rhetorical point of view, as a dialogue between imaginary people
4 who discuss a subject matter or else as a subtle dialogue between the
5 author and his reader. In both cases, the dialogue succeeds in expli-
6 cating the theories of the author as some inevitable evolution of the
711 argument. Even Einstein, when presenting his Theory of Relativity,
8 made use of a subtle dialogic style with his reader, which resulted in
9 his acquiring great popularity as well as academic success.
10 Since the dawn of psychotherapy, the dialogue has represented
1 a fundamental technique, not only as a model for presenting one’s
2 arguments but, moreover, as a investigative technique of the psyche
3 and human behaviour.
4 Even Freud (1933a) seems to have acknowledged the magical
5 power of words. He underlined this in the dialogue between the
6 analyst and his patient, maintaining that words are the instrument
7 of knowledge and change. Along with Freud, we see the rise of the
8 “psychoanalytic dialogue”, which consisted of a particular setting:
9 the couch, and the position of the analyst behind the patient . . . a
211 scenography ideally suited to amplifying the power of such a partic-
1 ular form of the dialogue. The patient, lying down without looking
2 at the interlocutor, who remains seated behind his back, gives free
3 rein to his mental associations. The comment of the psychotherapist
4 thus triggers off other associations, so-called “free associations”,
5 which are followed by more interpretations. The entire structure of
6 the psychoanalytic dialogue is orientated to increasingly value
7 Freud’s theories of the unconscious and render it a doctrine,
8 instilled by means of a rigidly ritualized dialogic itinerary.
9 The wave of psychoanalysis, with its focus on the internal
30 dialogue that takes shape from its theory, has dominated the scene
1 for many years, and, even today, large numbers of followers declare
2 its absolute “truth”.
3 All of this has shifted attention from the observable to the hidden,
4 from the interaction with others to one’s own unconscious dyna-
5 mics, founding, thus, by means of a specific rhetoric, a sort of
6 platonic tyranny of the unconscious over the conscious: the psycho-
7 analytic dialogue.
8 However, even before Freud, certain thinkers such as Bacon,
911 Locke, and James had highlighted the enormous potential present
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111 explanatory language fail, as, for example, in the case of severe
2 psychotic disorders or in highly conflicting relationships.
3 It was not by chance that Bateson structured one of his most
4 important works on a dialogue. In this dialogue, he uses questions
5 posed by a young man and answers given by a sage as a device to
6 firmly increase the efficiency of the contents and their expressive
711 form for the reader. He coins the term metalogo to define a particu-
8 lar form of exposition, i.e., a combination of almost cryptic
9 sentences and illuminating explanations.
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4 Hold clear in mind what you want to say, words will come along
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8 matics of communication (Watzlawick, 1977). Therefore, one has to
9 choose whether to do so in a casual manner and undergo such
211 inevitability, or choose to do so in a strategic manner that can be
1 kept under control.
2 From this assumption stems the constructivistic and inter-
3 actional strategic approach; that is, the application of theoretical and
4 practical formulations to interpersonal and therapeutic communi-
5 cation developed from the work of the Palo Alto group (Nardone &
6 Watzlawick, 1990; Watzlawick & Nardone, 1997; Watzlawick &
7 Weakland, 1977). Rather than being based on an a priori theory of
8 human nature where behaviour is “analysed”, the constructivistic–
9 strategic therapy model deals with the mode by which humans
30 perceive and react to their own reality. The interactional–strategic
1 therapists seek to understand a problem by examining a person’s
2 specific mode of communicating with himself, others, and the
3 world, and transforming it from a dysfunctional to a functional one
4 on which one can “operate”. From such a perspective, human prob-
5 lems are seen merely as the products of the interaction between the
6 subject and reality; thus, going back to the origin of the problem
7 often leads one astray when searching for solutions.
8 For this reason, the work of the interactional–strategic therapist
911 is not focused on why a problem exists but on how it functions, and
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111 We believe that the reader has recognized by now how this idea
2 might collide with the traditional concept of psychotherapy based
3 on the presupposition that to change a problematic behaviour one
4 should primarily change the person’s way of thinking. On the basis
5 of this premise, the various forms of psychotherapies, cognitive,
6 behavioural, or psychoanalytic, aim to achieve a change of cons-
711 ciousness in their patients in a way coherent with the respective
8 theoretical assumptions; this implies the use of reasoning and
9 indicative, descriptive, explanatory, confrontational, and interpreta-
10 tive language.
1 On the other hand, from a strategic perspective, change is prior
2 to all actions and the therapeutic communication becomes its vehi-
3 cle, or, better, does things with words (Austin, 1962).
4 Injunctions, suggestions, communicative artefacts and strata-
5 gems, and the rhetoric of persuasion are the principal vehicles
6 of change in strategic therapy, since these sidestep the representa-
7 tion system of the person, and in this way they construct, with-
8 out immediate awareness, alternative perceptions, actions, and
9 cognitions.
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1 patient, with successive moves meant to produce specific effects.
2 After each change or result is achieved, one proceeds to redefine the
3 change that took place and the ever-evolving situation. The thera-
4 peutic programme develops more and more tactics on the bases of
5 the agreed objectives, and is continuously re-orientated to the
6 observed effects.
7 “Knowing through changing” (Nardone & Portelli, 2005) there-
8 fore becomes the operative construct of the strategic intervention,
9 because it is through changing the sensations and the vision of a
30 person that we can lead him to discover new, solution-orientated
1 ways of perceiving and managing his problems and difficulties.
2 Following this logic and the empirical and experimental research
3 carried out, we have successfully designed specific treatment
4 models for different pathologies and applied them to thousands of
5 cases over a fifteen-year period (Nardone & Watzlawick, 2005).
6 These specific protocols are composed of a sequence of therapeutic
7 manoeuvres tailored ad hoc to the various forms of pathological
8 persistence paired with the selection of specific stratagems to
911 produce efficient and rapid therapeutic changes.
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111 “But if you can’t really avoid it, what do you do: do you ask for
2 help or do you face it on your own?”,
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8 the person is dependent on someone or whether he tries to make it
9 on his own, and this will orientate us to a completely different
10 evolution of the treatment. This is because, in the case of the former,
1 we focus on breaking the dependency and bringing the person to
2 recognize his resources, but in the latter, we base our intervention
3 on dismantling the trap into which the person has drawn himself.
4 Thanks to this answer, we have added another piece of strategic
5 knowledge: the person either avoids threatening situations; or else
6 asks for help in order to face them.
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20 attacks that might take place in situations you can predict, and thus
1 you tend to avoid such situations. But if you can’t possibly avoid
2 them, you need somebody to accompany you who can act
promptly in case you feel sick.”
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7 The reader should grant himself time to analyse the four ques-
8 tions, the induced answers, and the two paraphrases in their
9 specific sequence as a form of therapeutic strategy.
311 Thanks to these manoeuvres we now hold a lot of operative
1 information on how the problem functions. At the same time, even
2 the patient’s mind starts focusing on the functioning of his problem
3 and how he usually tends to manage it; his dysfunctional attempted
4 solutions are revealed with great clarity.
5 Moreover, the person feels understood, and simultaneously
6 acknowledges that he is in front of a competent therapist because
7 the latter is putting forward decidedly crucial questions. This will
8 considerably increase the patient’s therapeutic expectancy and will
911 reinforce the relationship between the therapist and the patient.
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111 Hubble, Duncan, and Miller (1999) declare that a strong therapeu-
2 tic relationship is responsible for over 70% of the change generated
3 in therapy. And if we add to this, as in our case, the opening up to
4 new perspectives that make the patient feel that there is a possible
5 solution, the therapeutic gradient is boosted even more.
6 Once this is achieved, we usually then put forward other succes-
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9 tions usually put into practice by the person suffering the panic
211 attack. Now we can proceed to indirectly guide the patient towards
1 change; it is as if we are launching a snowball, which rolls until it
2 becomes an avalanche. With this objective in mind we then ask,
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111 “Therefore, if I’m not mistaken, you tend to speak a lot about your
2 problem and when you disclose it, you feel better because you feel
3 relieved but soon after you feel even more frustrated because you
4 recognize your incapability once more.”
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1 emotions regarding his attempted solutions, which were first
2 perceived as useful but which in the long run end up making the
3 situation worse.
4 Following this pattern of introducing changes through evoking
5 new sensations about the failed attempted solutions used by the
6 subject, we proceed with another question:
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9 ing situation, and this person helps you, do you feel better or
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7 and you receive it, at that very moment you feel better because you
8 feel safe, but soon after you feel even more incapable, because when
you receive help from others, this proves the fact even more that
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you cannot make it on your own, and this makes you feel worse . . .”
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5 Once more we are introducing change through a series of ques-
6 tions and paraphrases that make the person feel rather than under-
7 stand. He then feels that when he speaks about his problem or asks
8 for help, it worsens the situation; thus, this renders fear no longer a
911 limit but a resource. In fact, a bigger fear, i.e., that of worsening the
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111 situation, will kill the smaller fear, i.e., that which makes him ask
2 for help.
3 From our point of view, it is a decisively important difference
4 between “feeling” and “understanding”, because there is a dated
5 misconception regarding people: “they need to understand some-
6 thing in order to change it” even though we are faced every day
711 with proof that this is not so. Every single one of us has, at some-
8 time or another, felt the frustration of wanting to free ourselves
9 from something but being unable to do so. For example, we under-
10 stand well that we are sharing our life with the wrong person, so
1 we would like to break free, but we feel that we are so attached to
2 that person that we cannot take such a step. Is there a better proof
3 that shows the difference between feeling and understanding?
4 From a strategic point of view, therapy should aim to make the
5 person feel differently towards something and not understand it
6 differently; to change the perception regarding something and not
7 to change the cognition, because if the perception is changed then
8 the emotional reaction will change, thus changing the behavioural
9 reaction and, as a final effect, eventually changing the cognition.
211 The great majority of psychotherapies work to change cognition,
1 behaviour or emotions. But that which triggers off every process is
2 what we feel, how we perceive, and all the rest follows.
3 Returning to our case, the patient is led to feel differently
4 through the use of our questions and paraphrases. The patient
5 begins to feel that every time he asks for and receives help, or every
6 time he speaks about his problem and is heard, the situation gets
7 worse, even though in that very moment he feels better. This allows
8 us to ask something of him that would otherwise have been impos-
9 sible to ask: to avoid asking for help and to avoid always speaking
30 about it. The person can accept this now because first he felt the
1 need to stop it and then understood that this could help him.
2 The patient went through a process of discovery together with
3 the therapist. The patient perceives that he “conducted” the discov-
4 ery because he was the one to give answers to the questions, so he
5 feels induced and not forced. The therapist has only confirmed and
6 paraphrased his answers and constructed the process though a
7 series of focused questions.
8 In this way one can guide the patient to discover new percep-
911 tions that determine new reactions to the problem right from the
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111 through doing seemingly little, we have really achieved a great deal,
2 since we have introduced a very radical change in the patient’s
3 perception. This is because now the person holds a clearly felt
4 perception that certain things he had been doing to protect himself
5 from fear ended up maintaining the situation and even worsening
6 it. We did not just “explain” that the attempted solutions worsen the
711 problem as well as maintaining it, but we have made the person
8 “feel” it. This is a “corrective emotional experience”; the vision of a
9 new reality through a process of discovery, which the person thinks
10 he has led. He has not been forced into it, and the reader knows well
1 that “we are usually convinced more easily by reasons we have
2 found ourselves than by those which have occurred to others”, as
3 affirmed by Blaise Pascal (Pensées, 1995), who, not by chance, is
4 considered to be one of the greatest persuaders in history.
5 Therefore, through the therapeutic manoeuvres described above,
6 the person discovers that his attempted solutions actually worsen
7 his situation. In other words, the strategic dialogue creates a type of
8 reframing by a process of discovery that my dear master–friend
9 Paul Watzlawick would call a “casual planned event”. Although the
211 therapist has planned this event, the patient experiences it as a
1 discovery that he has come to on his own, and so feels as if it were
2 a spontaneous personal evolution. In this way resistance to change
3 is nullified, because it is felt not as something imposed by external
4 figures, but rather as a natural internal inclination, a result of the
5 discovery that brought about this change in perspective.
6 Now the patient will be more open to accept suggestions to put
7 direct prescriptions into practice, thanks to what has already taken
8 place in the session. Thus, different behaviour modalities become a
9 joint achievement of the therapist and the patient. Directivity turns
30 into collaboration. To give an example of how the patient described
1 in this case would be more willing to try a prescriptive practice, we
2 might say to him:
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5 to think about what we have discussed today together: that is,
6 every time you speak about the problem you make it worse.
7 I would like you to think that every time you ask for help and
8 you receive it, you make things worse, even though at that
911 very moment you feel better. The same goes for when you avoid
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111 something, because, just like Pessoa, you will be bearing the
2 wounds of the evaded battles. But I cannot ask you to stop doing
3 this, because you are not yet ready . . .”
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6 thing and then declare a small paradoxical provocation, “however,
7 you are not ready to do so . . .” after having put a bigger fear, that
8 of getting worse, against the fear itself.
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you’re about to do so think that this will not only maintain the
2 problem but make it worse. However, I can ask you to avoid
3 speaking about it because this is easier . . .”
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6 previous reframe and indirectly curbs the “socializing” carried out
711 about the problem; an indication proposed as being easy to carry
8 out in contrast to the other two, which are declared to be almost
9 impossible for the person. The reader will surely recognize this to
20 be a variant of the illusion of alternatives technique.
1 Then we proceed to administer the only direct prescription,
2 which you can see is actually another therapeutic stratagem.
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4 “. . . I have prepared a simple table for you with various columns,
511 which you should copy into a portable notebook that you should
6 carry with you wherever you go, just like a true captain’s logbook.
7 From now until the next time we meet, every time you feel sick, you
8 feel one of those critical moments coming on . . . just at that very
moment, wherever you are and with whomever you are, bring out
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2 telling me a memory. I need you to give me a sort of instant photo
3 of the problem. This will help me understand how your problem
4 functions exactly and will help me to identify which are the strate-
5 gies specific for you.”
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8 a diagnostic monitoring of the panic episodes but is, in reality, a
911 technique useful for shifting attention away from the symptom. In
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111 the art of stratagems it is the first stratagem: “ploughing the sea
2 unknown to the skies”. By writing the log, the patient’s attention is
3 diverted from listening to himself carrying out the given task. Thus,
4 what might appear to be a further focus on the symptom serves in
5 reality to make it dissipate.
6 Usually, patients come back to the second session reporting no
711 episodes of panic attack or, if they did experience one, they notice
8 that annotating interrupted its escalation. But the most interesting
9 aspect is usually that they typically cease speaking about the prob-
10 lem and asking for help, because they are afraid of making things
1 worse. For a person who suffers from panic attacks, finding himself
2 able to confront previously avoided situations on his own after such
3 a long time makes him discover certain resources that he previously
4 thought he did not possess. There is nothing as enthusing for some-
5 one who had been blocked by fear for such a long time as dis-
6 covering that he can do things without being afraid, and that the
7 reality that previously terrorized him now no longer does. On
8 the contrary, such people discover that they can confront those
9 situations tranquilly.
211 Just like almost all complex things, the strategic dialogue, in
1 order to be efficacious, needs to be rendered by the therapist and
2 perceived by the interlocutor as a simple and natural process.
3 By leading the first session this way over the past four years, we
4 found that 69–70% of patients had their symptoms reduced to zero
5 between the first and the second session. These results are reflective
6 of the majority of the psychopathologies treated with this method.
7 The example put forward is only one of the various possible
8 applications of this innovative technique. In fact, during past years,
9 laborious empirical research has produced a series of strategic ques-
30 tions and specific paraphrases for many types of pathology with
1 similar results to those presented here. However, it is important to
2 note that the strategic dialogue is not a rigidly structured interview,
3 since it can be continuously corrected by the patient’s confirmations
4 or disconfirmations of the therapist’s paraphrases made every two
5 or three questions. Therefore it is a self-corrective discovery. One can
6 correct an error before actually making it, or before creating
7 irreparable trouble. This might be of great help, both for the patient,
8 who avoids risk, and for the therapist, who constantly holds a
911 measure of his/her doings.
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111 then ask if the chosen square is in the upper or lower half, and thus
2 four possibilities will remain. Then we should ask once more if the
3 chosen square is in the left or right half of the chessboard and come
4 to only two possibilities. Thus, we can now ask whether the chosen
5 square is the upper one or the lower.
6 The result will be that the right answer is acquired through just
711 six questions (see Figure 2, a–e), because we have used a logical
8 stratagem that subsequently appears exceedingly simple and that
9 reminds us of the famous Italian expression “Uovo di Colombo”
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2 it a base on which to stand.
3 “But anybody could do that!” cried the critic.
4 “Yes; and anybody can become a discoverer when once he has been
5 shown the way,” retorted Columbus. “It is easy to follow in a known
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6 “ he great majority of the problems do not derive from the
7 given answers but from the questions we put forward.”
8 With this sentence we refer to Immanuel Kant’s work,
9 Critique of Practical Reason (1997), or, better, the idea that questions
30 create answers rather than thesis inducing questions. From this
1 perspective, the well-known philosopher and a great part of modern
2 epistemology have put forward scientific methods with which to
3 construct correct questions. One just needs to recall Einstein’s teach-
4 ings: “It is our theory that determines our observations”.
5 However, though such a rationalistic approach has demon-
6 strated the fundamental importance of the interdependency
7 between questions and answers in the scientific, empirical–-
8 experimental, and hypothesis formulation/verification fields, it has
911 dealt very little with the suggestive, evocative, and persuasive
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111 own given answers. All this is carried out in a way that leads the
2 subject to feel the need for change, prompted by the newly discov-
3 ered and substituting perceptions acquired throughout the dialogue.
4 Thus, the strategic dialogue with the illusion of alternatives
5 starts with more generalized questions, then narrows down in a
6 spiral fashion and builds upon answers that reveal potentially criti-
711 cal aspects of the particular emerging situation. As François Jullien
8 (1996) points out in his Treaty of Efficiency, it is all about evoking the
9 action potential of a situation through a condition constructed ad
10 hoc to mobilize its resources.
1 This means that the sequence, like the questions themselves, is
2 not rigid and pre-established but, rather, adapted and tailored to
3 the logic of the interlocutor, just like a custom-made suit.
4 In fact, on the bases of such logic and its correlates, specific
5 questions and their proposed alternative answers are constructed to
6 call the perception of the subject into question on something and to
7 reorientate it towards more functional directions.
8 The process is a sort of an interactive “dance” between ques-
9 tions that create answers and answers that allow the construction of
211 the successive strategic questions. This continues until the inter-
1 locutor declares that he changed his position following the new
2 assumed perceptions yielded by the discoveries acquired through
3 the dialogue.
4 It is necessary to clarify that, in order for illusion of alternatives
5 questions to be real therapeutic instruments and vehicles of change,
6 they need to be focused on the perceptions and reactions of the
7 subject about her particular problem. They should focus on the
8 concrete interaction between the person and her problematic real-
9 ity, on her failed attempts to manage it, and on the vision that is
30 feeding it. Pythagoras, 2500 years ago, had already warned, “bear
1 in mind that humans are themselves instigators of their own
2 misfortunes” (Roncoroni, 2003).
3 Consequently, the questions propose a pair of opposing reac-
4 tions to the problem as alternatives; for example:
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6 1. “Do you think that your problem is unique and unrepeatable
7 or is part of an array of problems?”
8 2. “When faced by problematic situations, do you tend to run
911 away or confront them directly?”
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111 3. “Do you confront your problem on your own or do you ask for
2 help?”
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4 The alternative answers refer to the subject’s possible perceptions of
5 the problem and the modalities used to fight it, thus offering her an
6 operative image of how she constructs what she eventually endures.
7 In other words, the process of strategic questioning follows a
8 funnel-like sequence, leads the interlocutor to discover ways that he
9 is the instigator of his destiny, and thus shows how his dysfunc-
10 tional attempted solutions, based on those erroneous perceptions,
1 feed the problem. This process of induced discovery produces a real
2 perceptual saltus (leap) in the subject (Thom, 1989) because it short-
3 circuits the perceptive and reactive vicious circle, proving how
4 dysfunctional and dangerous it is.
5 This change in perspective has an emotional impact comparable
6 to an enlightenment, using Buddhist terms. People usually react with
711 total astonishment when they discover that what they have thought
8 and did so far in order to defeat the problem actually helped to
9 maintain it.
20 This represents a true and proper “emotionally corrective expe-
1 rience”, which makes the subject undergo change in her previous
2 mental and behavioural scripts. Thus, the successive indications for
3 the concrete realization of change would find a wide-open path free
4 of resistance. It may now be clearer to the reader how the technique
511 of strategic questioning with an illusion of alternatives is orientated
6 to scan and funnel the rigidly pathological perceptions of the
7 patient and the consequent behavioural reactions. These questions
8 guide the patient towards change by making her acquire more elas-
9 tic and efficient ways of interacting with her problems. There is a
311 movement from unworkable solutions that feed the problem to
1 functional solutions that break it. However, such a substitution is
2 not suggested or prescribed, but is arrived at through a course of
3 questioning that leads the patient to discover that which solves the
4 problem soon after revealing that which maintains it.
5 This is the reason why the achieved change is not a superficial
6 modelling or an attempt to control the reactions of the subject, but
7 is a radical alteration of his perceptions and causal attributions.
8 From this follows an even better revelation of the real efficiency of
911 the method, because it does not merely change the actions but also
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111 the perceptions that induce them, or, rather, it completely changes
2 the interaction between the subject and his reality. Marcel Proust
3 (1981) stated, “the true journey of discovery is not to see new
4 worlds but to change one’s eyes”.
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9 “Words differently arranged have different meanings and meanings
10 differently arranged have different effects” (Pensées I: 23). This affir-
1 mation of Blaise Pascal’s (1995) is a clear evocation of the theme of
2 this section.
3 The second component of the strategic dialogue, which is inter-
4 dependent with the questions with an illusion of alternatives, is the
5 reframing paraphrases.
6 With this definition we refer to a manoeuvre that follows every
7 two or three questions, uses the answers given to formulate a vision
8 of the problem, and verifies its correct comprehension to the inter-
9 locutor.
211 This means that no evaluation or interpretation is directly
1 proposed, but, in a way that makes no assumptions, a verification
2 is carried out regarding the subject’s comprehension of the function
3 of the problem. For example:
4 “ Correct me if I’m wrong, from what you have affirmed it seems
5 that . . .?”
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7 Therefore the specialist steps aside from the role of the expert
8 and verifies his/her formulations about the presenting problem
9 with the patient. In so doing, the specialist inverts the usual inter-
30 action between expert and the person asking for help. It appears
1 that it is the latter who guides the conversation and is the true
2 expert on the problem, since it is his/hers.
3 Paraphrasing the answers given to the previous two or three
4 strategic questions will make the subject feel respected, not forced
5 into something and not feeling disqualified because the expert he
6 referred to asks for confirmation of his/her valuation rather than
7 just declaring it.
8 This creates a collaborative atmosphere and relationship
911 between the two, which will help to circumvent possible resistance
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111 following and so forth . . . you’ll find yourself doing big things by
2 having done only small things . . .”. With these words, John
3 Weakland (1993), one of the great masters of brief strategic therapy,
4 guided his pupils (including one of the authors of this book) to
5 focus their efforts on the smallest possible changes during therapy
6 rather than on huge ones, so that through a progressive chain of
7 small but inexorable steps, they will rapidly reach the objective of
8 a big change.
9 All this brings to mind a maxim of Napoleon Bonaparte: “Since
10 I’m in a rush, I’m going to go slow”.
1 Going back to our premise “recapping in order to redefine”, we
2 consider it very important to propose to the patient a conclusive
3 frame of the previous dialogue so that it soundly anchors him
4 and becomes a mnemonic representation of something already
5 fulfilled and not as something that still needs to be acquired. This
6 leads to an operative consequence that will follow, which will be
711 perceived as an effect of known fact and not of a threatening
8 unknown reality.
9 We are all inclined to recognize rather than to get to know, because
20 “framing” the unknown with the known reassures us. In the same
1 way, through this manoeuvre, we create a consolidated sensation of
2 reassuring knowledge in respect of the problem and our perception
3 of it, as well as for what is necessary to arrive at its solution. This
4 precious self-deception renders the necessary changes decisively
511 more feasible, increases positive expectations, and boosts the
6 subject’s internal locus of control. She will not feel as if she is navi-
7 gating in the unknown, rather, she feels as if she is partaking in an
8 adventure with precise and reassuring coordinates which will lead
9 her to the desired destination. Although it seems redundant to
311 repeat what has been said so far, at the end of the therapeutic
1 dialogue this ostensible waste of time is in fact decidedly econom-
2 ical and extremely efficient in reaching maximum efficacy through
3 minimum effort. Finally, in summarizing what has been put
4 forward so far in a rhetorical manner also produces strong sugges-
5 tive effects that further enhance the effect of this manoeuvre
6 because of its hypnotic quality (Servillat, 2004).
7 Once more it becomes clear how, through this advanced form of
8 the dialogue, one can work contemporaneously on four fundamen-
911 tal psychological levels of the individual: perception, emotion,
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111 behaviour, and cognition; all this through a subtle yet elaborated
2 form of non-directive directivity.
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6 and make trial on our own heart of the turn which we give to our
711 discourse in order to see whether one is made for the other, and
8 whether we can assure ourselves that the hearer will be, as it were,
forced to surrender [Pascal, 1995: 16]
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5 ney one would find oneself at the starting line. With this poetic
6 image, the author leads us to think that the end of something opens
7 up another thing. This applies also to the strategic dialogue.
8 Once we arrive at the end of the session, having completed all
9 the phases of the strategic dialogue, we now must weave together
211 all those things done during the interview that produced a change
1 in perspective, so as to turn them into operative actions in the
2 subject’s real life. For this purpose, the prescriptive–indicative
3 phase comes to embody a fundamental point, since this is the
4 moment where there is a transformation and a handover of what
5 has been discovered, agreed upon, and redefined during the
6 dialogue. This is the phase of the strategic dialogue that is essen-
7 tially the same therapeutic style as the brief strategic therapy we
8 were conducting ten years ago. In fact, closing the session by
9 prescribing what the patient should do from one session to the next
30 has remained unchanged, as described in our well-known protocols
1 found in earlier texts. The specific prescriptive injunctions to be put
2 into practice by the patient remain the same, just like those that
3 have been devised and differentiated for each diverse pathology
4 and its variants. One should not forget that without the prior
5 research on the specific forms of therapeutic manoeuvres and
6 tactics for the different forms of pathological disorders, it would not
7 have been possible to study the technical evolution of the dialogue
8 during the first session. It would not have been possible to select
911 the corresponding strategic questions without the previous research
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5 “ dvanced technology is in its effects, not so dissimilar to
6 magic.” With these words one of the great scholars of the
7 Massachusetts Institute for Technology (MIT), Clarke (in
8 Owen, 2001) shows us that when a technique becomes very refined,
9 its concrete effects might lead us to think that it is magic.
30 We believe that this applies also in the case of the strategic
1 dialogue, when employed against important and resistant forms of
2 psychological pathologies. In order to make it easier for the reader
3 to better understand this rigorous technique, we present in this
4 chapter a number of examples of its application to real cases. A vari-
5 ety of cases were chosen, from the most advanced types of phobic
6 disorders to the most recent specializations of the eating disorders,
7 and to more ordinary problems, drawn from a heterogeneous popu-
8 lation (different genders, ages, and of diverse cultural and social
911 backgrounds), which we came across in clinical and public contexts.
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111 The brief comments in italics will help to clarify the advanced
2 strategy of change used, by shedding light on every specific
3 manoeuvre and on the sequence of the problem–solution process.
4 In this way, the reader will immerse himself in the rigorous yet
5 creative art of the strategic dialogue.
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10 Fascinated by the methods of brief psychotherapy, the makers of a
1 well-known Italian television programme about medicine and
2 health proposed an experiment to us to be aired at prime time: a
3 documentary of a psychotherapy session to show the programme’s
4 vast audience how complicated human problems can be solved
5 with brief interventions.
6 The chosen patient was a twenty-three-year-old woman, suffer-
711 ing from a particular problem that is very common in show-busi-
8 ness: body dysmorphia. In practice, after having undergone plastic
9 surgery to have silicone implants to increase her breast size, the
20 young woman had once more contacted her surgeon to have her
1 upper lip reshaped. The specialist, highly professional, refused the
2 request, and referred her to another specialist, more suited to the
3 new problem.
4 Dysmorphophobia is a post-modern phenomenon (Nardone,
511 2003a), since it is linked to the ever-growing evolution of plastic
6 surgery and the increased social interest in aesthetics. It is based on
7 the actual possibility of undergoing change in certain aspects that so
8 far might have seemed unchangeable, such as physical appearance.
9 We will proceed to report the actual dialogue between the
311 patient and Professor Nardone.
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2 Therapist: Good morning, Cinzia.
3 Patient: Good morning
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111 Therapist: OK, imagine: you correct your upper lip, you become even
2 more beautiful. It works . . . Do you think you could see
3 another defect to correct?
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1 surgeries make you better or worse?
2 Patient: Psychologically, they make me feel better, because I’m at
3 peace with myself. And for me this is the most important
4 thing, right? Feeling better about myself. I don’t really
5 mind about anything else . . .
6 Therapist: OK, so the most important thing to you is correcting
7 defects. Then you feel better about yourself?
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4 is feeling better about myself, looking at myself in the
mirror and feeling happy with how I look.
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7 noticing another defect and so you proceed to surgically
8 correct it . . . and then you correct another, then you notice
9 another, and so after another . . .
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5 What can make you stop here?
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111 Therapist: OK, do you know the game of the Chinese boxes? You
2 open a big box and you find a smaller one. Then you open
3 the small one and you find an even smaller one, and a then
4 another one even smaller . . . And so on . . . I would like
you to keep in mind that after every successful corrective
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8 works, this will make you find a new defect to be corrected
9 and a new one . . . and so on . . . In other words, what I
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1 you create new things to be corrected? Do you know
2 Michael Jackson?
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511 Therapist: To what extremes he has gone, no? I mentioned this case
6 simply to show you how a good solution sometimes can
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Therapist: Hmm! My advice is start to thinking that correcting your
3 presumed defects can be helpful to you, for sure, but it can
4 become a problem that creates a new problem that will
5 create a new one . . . just as in the Chinese boxes game! I
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911 Patient: Yes! That’s true!
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111 her upper lip. He also gave her a small task, i.e., during the follow-
2 ing days to stand in front of the mirror and write down all the
3 things she does not like about herself.
4 Presenter: [to Cinzia] What did you feel on watching the interview
5 you had with Professor Nardone?
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1 Patient: Yes, because it blocked me, blocked the things I thought
2 ...
3
Presenter: Excuse me, but it blocked or unblocked the things you
4 thought?
5
6 Patient: No, it blocked the things I thought.
711 Presenter: You mean your decision?
8
Patient: Yes, my decision. Yes, the decision to undergo plastic
9
surgery to have fuller lips.
20
1 Presenter: Ah . . . And why?
2 Patient: It freed me, unblocked my thoughts. In ten minutes
3 Professor Nardone made me, for the first time, go beyond
4 aesthetic appearance . . . what I could wish or not wish.
511 So, for the moment, everything is suspended, because I’m
6 seriously thinking about it. It impressed me.
7 Presenter: Listen . . . So what exactly undermined your previous
8 beliefs?
9
Patient: The fact that I truly didn’t see the problem of my lips
311
before the breast enlargement. For me this wasn’t a prob-
1
lem and only after the operation this defect came out.
2
3 Presenter: Well, I am curious . . . did you carry out the prescriptions?
4 Patient: No, I didn’t, because there was not the need. There wasn’t
5 the need at all.
6
Presenter: Did you take this decision soon after the first session of
7
brief therapy?
8
911 Patient: Yes, it impressed me very much . . .!
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111
2 PROBLEM
3 “According to my plastic surgeon,
4 I do not need this intervention”
5 Illusion of alternatives QUESTION Illusion of alternatives
6 Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
QUESTION
711
REFRAMING PARAPHRASE:
8
RECAP TO REDEFINE
9
10 Illusion of alternatives QUESTION Illusion of alternatives
1 Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
QUESTION
Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
2 QUESTION
3
REFRAMING PARAPHRASE
4
5 GUIDING TO FACILIATE DISCOVERY
6 QUESTION
7 BEYOND THE SCENARIO
8 Illusion of alternatives QUESTION Illusion of alternatives
9
PROVOCATIVE REFRAMING
211
PARAPHRASE
1
2 STRATEGIC QUESTION
3 EVOKING SENSATIONS
4 THROUGH METAPHORIC
5 IMAGES
6 EVOKE SENSATIONS
7
REDEFINE THE EVOKED
8
SENSATIONS
9
PRESCRIPTION AS A JOINT
30
DISCOVERY
1
OF WHAT WILL
2
PRODUCE CHANGE
3
The ritual of the
4
aesthetic evaluation
5
⇓
6
SOLUTION
7
8 Figure 1. Summarized sequence of the strategic dialogue as applied to body
911 dysmorphia.
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111 you can not manage to do so because you fear the effects
2 of this decision.
3
Three general questions followed by a summing paraphrase
4
5 Patient: Yes.
6 Therapist: OK. This decision could have bad effects on you only, or
7 also on others?
8
9 Investigation of how the problem functions
10 Patient: Even on others.
1
Therapist: OK. The effects of this decision would take place in the
2
short-term, immediately, or in the long-term?
3
4 Patient: I do not know . . . maybe immediately.
5 Therapist: Mmm . . . OK.
6
711 Patient: But . . . I do not know whether these effects could be called
8 positive or negative.
9 Therapist: Oh! OK. Very interesting.
20
Patient: I can foresee which could be the immediate negative
1
effects, maybe in the long term they could be positive.
2
3 Therapist: OK . . . Therefore, if I understood clearly, otherwise please
4 do correct me . . . you are there ready to act . . . you need
511 to take a decision but this decision might lead to important
6 effects that in the short term might be negative but in the
7 long term might even be positive . . . However, these nega-
8 tive effects in the short term might affect not only you, but
9 also other persons.
311 Redefine the problem through paraphrasing
1
2 Patient: Yes.
3 Therapist: And due to these effects you are hesitant.
4
Patient: Yes, let’s say I’m paralysed.
5
6 Therapist: OK, OK. And if we had to evaluate the effects of your deci-
7 sions, mmm . . .? At the moment are you giving more
8 importance to the negative short-term effects or the possi-
911 ble positive long-term effects?
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111 this work or not. You are very worried because there are
2 some negative short-term effects that might influence your
3 life and the life of your loved ones . . . these negative
4 effects might persist only in the short term because in the
long term you might have other opportunities. And you
5
know this even though you do not hold any certainty, but
6
at the same time you feel that you are jammed from
7
expressing your potential and that this log jam is not due
8 to the situation you are in, but to your incapability to
9 express it.
10
1 Redefine through the use of paraphrasing
2 Patient: Mmm (nods).
3
Therapist: OK, Please correct me if I’m wrong . . . can we thus come
4
to think that if you could manage to overcome this
5 personal blockage, you would be able to change the situa-
6 tion at work without the need of leaving it?
711
8 Orientating by making use of the scenario beyond the problem
9 Patient: I have tried sometimes, and I also had satisfying results.
20 However, this did not last long.
1
Therapist: OK . . . when you tried . . . did anything change in you or
2
in others?
3
4 Developing premises that will be strengthened in the conclusion: to make
511 the enemy go up the attic and then remove the ladder
6 Patient: In all spheres, both in me and in others.
7
8 Therapist: But where did it start first?
9 Patient: From me.
311
Therapist: And you produced effects in others, if I’m not wrong.
1
2 Patient: Mmm, mmm (nods).
3 Therapist: OK, but you said this lasted only a short time! But did you
4 persist in what turned out to be functional, or did you let
5 go because it was tough to keep up?
6
Patient: I let go.
7
8 Therapist: Oh . . . please allow me to understand better . . . but if I’m
911 not wrong . . . if I did not understand wrongly, you have
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111 Therapist: Therefore, if I’m not mistaken, you can change the situa-
2 tion, you have also managed to do so at a certain point, but
3 the fact that you cannot keep up the successful strategy,
4 this causes you to think that it is not worth it.
5 A redefining paraphrase
6
Patient: Mmm (nods).
7
8 Therapist: OK, did you study Latin at school?
9 Patient: (nods).
10
Therapist: Did they ever make you translate the fables of Phaedrus?
1
2 Patient: Something, yes . . . (nods).
3 Therapist: Do you remember the fox and the sour grapes?
4
Evokes a sensation: reframing her “is it worth it!” attitude using Classics
5
6 Patient: (nods).
711 Therapist: Oh . . . Does it have anything to do with your situation or
8 not?
9
Patient: (pause). But, no . . . I do not see it in that way.
20
1 Therapist: OK, and have you ever thought that . . . that there is a
2 particular rule in life? One can abandon the battlefield only
when one is able to stay, to abandon it because one cannot
3
stay, that is called running away, or escaping a situation.
4
511 To evoke fear
6 Patient: (nods). Mmm!
7
Therapist: Every escape leaves a wound that never heals.
8
9 Patient: (pause, then nods). Therefore is it worth insisting and find
311 once more that charge . . .
1 Therapist: “Is it worth” becoming able to stay so that one can decide
2 whether to leave or to stay? When someone leaves because
3 she is incapable of staying, that’s running away, an escape.
4 Patient: In fact that is why I did not leave, because I understood
5 that I was escaping, running away.
6
7 A joint discovery
8 Therapist: OK . . . and this is an important resource that needs to be
911 exploited . . . and which should be joined to the idea
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111
2 PROBLEM
3 “To be more decisive in
4 changing my job”
5 Illusion of alternatives QUESTION Illusion of alternatives
6 Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
QUESTION
7
RECAP TO REDEFINE
8
9 Illusion of alternatives QUESTION Illusion of alternatives
10 Illusion of alternatives QUESTION Illusion of alternatives
1 REFRAMING PARAPHRASE
2
QUESTION “BEYOND
3
THE SCENARIO”
4
Illusion of alternatives QUESTION Illusion of alternatives
5
6 Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
QUESTION
711 REFRAMING PARAPHRASE
8 Illusion of alternatives QUESTION Illusion of alternatives
9 Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
20 QUESTION
Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
1 QUESTION
2 REFRAMING PARAPHRASE
3
EVOKING SENSATIONS
4
PRESCRIPTION AS
511
A JOINT
6
DISCOVERY
7
OF WHAT WILL
8
PRODUCE CHANGE
9
311 ILLUSION OF
1 ALTERNATIVES TO
2 NEUTRALIZE
3 RESISTANCE
4 ⇓
5 SOLUTION
6
7
8 Figure 2. Summarized sequence of the strategic dialogue in dealing with
911 managerial depression..
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111 Therapist: OK, do you follow this process only once, or at various
2 times?
3 Focused investigation on how the problem functions: the temporal sequence
4
5 Patient: In a day?
6 Therapist: Yes.
711
Patient: Various times a day.
8
9 Therapist: Various times a day, OK. Therefore you have various
10 episodes of bingeing and vomiting.
1 Patient: Yes.
2
3 Therapist: Are they successive or at intervals?
4 Redefining the new guided discoveries, step by step
5
Patient: Successively, and even . . . depends.
6
7 Therapist: Your encounters with this “dimension” take place between
8 meals with rituals you have come to construct, or during
9 meals?
211
Focused investigation of how the problem works: the modality
1
2 Patient: Between meals.
3 Therapist: Therefore you have regular meals . . .
4
5 Recapping in order to redefine
6 Patient: Yes.
7
Therapist: Highly controlled . . .
8
9 Patient: Highly controlled . . .
30
Therapist: But between meals . . .
1
2 Patient: It’s a mess!
3 Therapist: It’s a mess! Do you get hold of the food to eat and regur-
4 gitate on your own, or do others get it for you?
5
Patient: No, they do not get it for me . . . I mean, what I find, what-
6
ever I find . . . I do not have any . . . I do not go out to buy
7
stuff . . . no!
8
911 Mother: I no longer make cakes . . . no more!
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111 Patient: Then I think . . . for example, especially lately since it’s
2 been a while since I last vomited. I mean, I vomit very
3 rarely now, just because I’m filling in every minute of the
4 day. Then, they [her parents] know this: on Saturdays and
Sundays I go to the beach, from Monday to Friday I work
5
in Rome, I live on the outskirts so . . .
6
711 Therapist: But they are suspicious! They said, “Maybe she does it
8 away from home”.
9 Muddying the waters to make the fish come to the surface
10
Patient: No. Instead I do not do it if I’m not at home.
1
2 Mother: Or maybe when we are away . . .
3
Father: When we leave her alone at home . . .
4
5 Patient: I never do it when away from home . . . never!
6 Mother: Maybe when we are away . . . because I no longer see her
7 do it. Before, I used to understand when . . . maybe she has
8 become more cunning!
9
Therapist: Well, to do it better one has to do it in secret. It is much
211 “nicer” . . . am I right?
1 Evoke sensations
2
3 Patient: Even the other psychotherapist told me that if I had to do
4 it I have to do it in secret, that they should not see me.
5 Therapist: Oh! Well, it is the best way to “perfect” yourself! OK, is
6 this the whole family or do we have other members?
7
Patient: My brother.
8
9 Therapist: Younger or older than you?
30
Patient: Younger. He is twenty and I’m twenty-six . . .
1
2 Therapist: OK. Does he intervene in any way, or does he avoid the
3 subject? (Pause.)
4
Mother and daughter exchange questioning looks.
5
6 Mother: What do you think?
7
Patient: Well! He is weird, even my brother is weird.
8
911 Mother: Now he is in the army . . . he is rarely at home.
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111 Father: Because the problem was also because she had lost so
2 much weight that she reached a dangerous point, and at
3 that moment . . .
4 Therapist: True, true. [Addressing the patient.] But that was the other
5 phase, right? That was the abstinent phase; now, at this
6 new phase, these kinds of risks are absent.
711 Father: The big problem was when she was in that dangerous
8 phase, we were at rock bottom . . .
9
Patient: But does it happen like that, that you pass from one, from
10 abstinence to, or from . . .?
1
Therapist: Listen! Saint Augustine—have you read this?—wrote
2
“Abstinence is much easier than moderation” Is it either
3
abstinence or loss of control?
4
5 Citing the “great”
6 Patient: It is true.
7
Mother: A middle way . . .
8
9 Patient: There is no middle way.
211 Therapist: (addressing the parents). Well, if you will kindly leave the
1 room, I’ll come to say goodbye to you later.
2 Mother: Fine!
3
4 Father: Thank you. [Parents leave the room.]
5 Therapist: But there is something which is not written in the book—
6 OK? The fact that here we do brief focused interventions.
7 Therefore, we will give you ten sessions . . .
8 Patient: And after that (smiles)?
9
Therapist: If we do not see any changes, we will dump you. That is,
30
if we do not see changes within the tenth session, that
1 means that our method does not work with you and we do
2 not want to become accomplices of your problem if we
3 cannot help you solve it.
4
Evoke sensations by arousing fear
5
6 Patient: OK , right.
7 Therapist: You have read that therapy moves along certain given
8 indications or prescriptions. These might seem banal,
911 illogical, grotesque . . .
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111 you, and eat until you feel truly full, stuffed. When you
2 feel that it is the time to go and throw up . . . stop, wait
3 for an hour, then you can vomit . . . OK?
4 Patient: Do I really need to vomit, at all costs? (Laughs.) Because
5 I’ll be sick!
6
Therapist: We are telling you, but you can choose not to do so . . .
7
8 Patient: Of course.
9 Therapist: However, we know that you do not do it now because you
10 occupy all your time. OK? Just like Ulysses who tied
1 himself to the ship . . . he made others tie him up so as not
2 to fall for the call of the sirens.
3
Reframing image
4
5 Patient: Because, due to my job, I’m away from home most of the
6 day, so I do not think about it!
711 Therapist: OK, therefore you can choose not to do it if you do not feel
8 like it. But every time you feel like doing it, remember: eat
9 as you please, do not restrain yourself. But when you have
20 eaten and eaten, and eaten, when you feel as if you are
1 about to burst, that you need to rush and vomit . . .
2 Patient: I need to wait an hour.
3
Therapist: Look at your watch and wait an hour. Not a minute after
4
or a minute before. When the hour strikes, rush to vomit.
511
Is it clear?
6
7 Patient: When I need to vomit, if I do not need to, I do not do it!
8 Therapist: Of course. It is not an obligation. We leave you free to
9 organize your own life. But every time you eat and vomit,
311 eat as much as you want, OK? But vomit after an hour. Not
1 a minute before or a minute after. And for the entire hour
2 you should avoid eating anything more.
3 Patient: That is, I have to wait an hour than then vomit.
4
5 Therapist: OK.
6 Patient: If I need to.
7
Therapist: Without eating or drinking anything further.
8
911 Patient: Ah! I should not do anything during the hour.
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111 Therapist: After an hour: exactly. Wait, and after an hour, go and
2 vomit.
3 Patient: However . . . I mean . . . one thing. One has to feel the
4 sensation if at home, and that’s OK. However, lately, it
5 happened that . . . in fact the doctor gave me shots to inject
6 . . . I do not know whether it is a consequence, because I
711 cannot seem to vent in “that” way and I need to find other
8 means to do so! I have a sort of panic attack: I feel sick, my
9 blood pressure lowers, I feel breathless and dizzy . . .
10 Therapist: Are they panic attacks or do you believe it is something
1 that has to do with you physically? Or both?
2
3 Avoid shifting the focus of the therapy
4 Patient: That is . . . the doctor that visited me, told me that there is
5 something . . . fatigue, stress, nervous breakdown . . . my
6 nerves . . .
7
Therapist: Oh, OK!! OK, she gave you medication?
8
9 Patient: Samir!
211 Therapist: OK . . .
1
Patient: She gave me Samir. I must confess that it helped.
2
3 Therapist: Well . . . it is a tonic treatment, therefore it obviously
4 helped! Therefore . . . do you remember our prescription?
5
Patient: Yes. I should eat—perhaps binge one more time—wait an
6 hour, and then purge.
7
8 Therapist: Hmm! Then another small thing . . . this might be a little
9 bit risky, OK? I would like to insert in your daily diet a
very small pleasure, a transgression . . .
30
1 Patient: (pause). Oh, but transgression for me . . . in fact I . . . well,
2 let me try to explain: what is that thing I like? What is a
3 transgression for me . . . something I could eat . . . I have
4 difficulty in choosing, I truly have great difficulties when
5 trying to choose.
6 Therapist: I believe so, because you have become used to the fact that
7 everything is so controlled. But, you know, we construct
8 our own habits and then our habits construct us. We need
911 to subvert this. To ask you for a small thing, I mean you
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111 should choose a small thing that you might like, and then
2 you see whether you like it or not. But every day there
3 should be a small thing . . . OK?
4 Prescribing as a sort of joint discovery
5
Patient: OK.
6
Therapist: Thus, we gave you two tasks, OK? (Figure 3.)
7
8
9 PROBLEM
10 “Binge and vomit”
1 Illusion of alternatives QUESTION Illusion of alternatives
2 REDEFINE TO
3 REFRAME
4 QUESTION
Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
5 QUESTION
6 Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
QUESTION
711 Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
RECAP TO REDEFINE
8
9 QUESTION
Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
20 QUESTION
Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
1 QUESTION
2 Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
EVOKE SENSATIONS
3 QUESTION
4 Illusion of alternatives Illusion of alternatives
DOUBLE BIND
511
QUESTION
6
PRESCRIPTION TO THE
7
FAMILY
8
RECAP TO REDEFINE
9
311 PRESCRIPTION AS A
1 JOINT DISCOVERY OF WHAT
WILL PRODUCE CHANGE
2
An interval of an hour between the
3
bingeing and vomiting, and
4
a small food transgression
5
⇓
6
SOLUTION
7
8 Figure 3. Summarized sequence of the strategic dialogue in dealing with
911 bingeing and vomiting.
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111 The fourth session was carried out after a month at the Centre
2 for Strategic Therapy. During this period of time, the patient was
3 followed-up by the co-therapist. The patient reported that during
4 this month she had been “liberated” from her vomiting, managing
5 to stay at home without being tempted to eat and vomit. This is the
6 full transcription of the fourth session.
711 Therapist: Please let us know about the situation. Obviously I have
8 been kept informed by her [referring to the co-therapist]
9 but I want to hear it from you.
10
Patient: Well! I mean . . . I’m fine because I no longer vomit.
1
2 Therapist: You never vomited?
3 Patient: No.
4
5 Therapist: Wow!
6 Patient: I have stayed in . . . at home! Sometimes there were
7 moments . . . but I kept going. At home I was quite
8 agitated but I managed to keep control. I was not over-
9 whelmed by that thing . . . I managed to say “No” and
211 control myself!
1 Therapist: Wow, how do you explain all this?
2
Patient: I do not know (laughs). I do not know, but then I noticed
3
that I could eat with more tranquillity!
4
5 Therapist: Yes?
6 Patient: Yes! I have also been to a wedding and I eat—I referred
7 this also to the co-therapist—that is, I do not feel so . . .
8 even when I am looking in the mirror and I feel a bit fatter
9 . . . however, this thought then goes away, I make it go
30 away. It is much easier than before.
1 Therapist: OK. The people around you, how did they react to such a
2 change? Did they notice this change, after all, or not?
3
Patient: Yes . . . but they acted as if nothing had happened. I mean,
4
they do not give it such importance. Because even at home
5 I remained quite the same, it isn’t that I . . .
6
7 Therapist: OK. And this, what has changed in your life?
8 Patient: I feel more secure. I’m not . . . I gained more confidence in
911 myself.
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111 Therapist: Hmm. OK. But you never vomited . . . Did you restrict
2 your diet or did you allow yourself the foods as I told you?
3 Patient: Yes, I allowed myself . . . especially at breakfast and
4 dinner—I told the co-therapist—a bit less at lunchtime
5 because I did not have so much time for lunch. I do not
6 have so much time to take things easy at lunchtime.
7 Therapist: Therefore, you cannot appreciate the taste of good stuff!
8
9 Patient: No, because by two, half past two, I finish at one place and
start in another . . .
10
1 Therapist: So you have to rush . . .
2
Patient: Yes, I do not have the time, whereas at breakfast and
3 dinner, I’m at home.
4
5 Therapist: . . . so you have started taking care of yourself.
6 Patient: Yes. I have a bit more time!
711
Therapist: Well. Have you eaten only and exclusively what you like best?
8
9 Patient: I eat things I never used to eat: croissants filled with cream,
20 a slice of pizza with ham and mozzarella . . .
1 Therapist: Oh! Without being tempted to go and vomit?
2
Patient: I went to this wedding. I ate a whole slice and another half-
3 slice of the wedding cake. No! No!
4
511 Therapist: But in this case, did you keep back from . . . or you did not
6 feel like vomiting?
7 Patient: No. I mean, I said to myself, now I’m going to the
8 wedding, surely during the meal I would be tormented . .
9 . It was my best friend’s wedding! Instead I sat down and
311 I ate . . . did not pay so much attention . . . everything came
1 along so naturally!
2 Therapist: Hmm! Well. Hear me out. Therefore, in that moment, the
3 demon, the secret lover . . .
4 Patient: Disappeared!
5
6 Therapist: . . . we have locked him in the depths of your castle?
7 Patient: Yes. Even though sometimes I still feel it . . . However, I
8 manage to control myself. Where before I failed to control
911 myself, now I have control.
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111 gradually help to bring the patient to construct his own personal,
2 social, and professional potential, which so far had been blocked
3 because of the problem. He will be autonomous from the entire
4 family system and, moreover, will fend for himself so as to
5 construct a personal equilibrium and establish self-confidence.
6 Co-therapist: What is the problem that brings you to us?
711
8 Patient: I’m the problem! For the past thirteen years I’ve been
9 suffering from panic attacks, this is my problem. It has
evolved in various ways, in various types of panic
10
attacks . . . For a while I was afraid of some things . . .
1
another time I was afraid of other things, but the result
2 was always the same: panic attack, and a need to run
3 away from the place I’m in . . . the classical type of panic
4 attack.
5
Therapist: Oh, oh! Well, you can start [referring to the co-thera-
6
pist].
7
8 Co-therapist: But precisely what used to take place?
9 Definition of the problem
211
1 Patient: Precisely, I get really agitated.
2 Therapist: Oh!
3
Patient: Strongly agitated . . .
4
5 Co-therapist: Tachycardia, sweating . . .?
6 Anticipation technique
7
8 Patient: Yes, in fact lately, for example, my head feels lighter . . .
9 Therapist: What do you mean by “my head feels lighter”?
30
The wise man fakes being stupid
1
2 Patient: What do I mean?
3
Therapist: As if your head flies away?
4
5 Patient: As if . . .
6 Therapist: It breaks away from your body and wanders away?
7
Patient: No!
8
911 Therapist: Oh!
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111 Therapist: In that case, if I’m not wrong, you fear exposing yourself
2 to this situation?
3 Patient: Yes.
4
Therapist: OK! But in that case do you fear having to face people or the
5
fact that you have to wait there for long? Which of the two?
6
711 Patient: Maybe both!
8 Therapist: And, usually, do you tend to avoid or face the situations
9 you fear?
10
A sequence of funnel-like questions to understand the attempted solutions
1
2 Wife: He avoids!
3 Patient: I’ve been avoiding, but I must say that the very few times
4 I face the situations I manage to overcome them . . .
5
Therapist: Uh!
6
7 Patient: I feel fantastic. I feel good!
8 Co-therapist: I believe so! [Everyone laughs.]
9
211 Patient: I feel like going back to the place, to face it once more, so
as to . . .
1
2 Therapist: . . . but at the same time you tend to avoid . . .
3
Patient: Yes, lately I do: I cannot manage!
4
5 Therapist: Therefore, if I’m not mistaken, you are a person who has
6 panic attacks, linked with a great terror of undergoing
some sort of electrical shock that can kill you.
7
8 Reframing paraphrasing: recap to redefine
9
Patient: Yes, in fact . . . exactly so!
30
1 Therapist: And this takes place in specific situations . . . and now that
2 you’ve learned which they are, you tend to avoid them . . .
3 Patient: Yes.
4
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5 wards . . . you still tend to avoid?
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8 Therapist: Do you tend mostly to avoid, or to ask to be helped, to be
911 accompanied . . . by her?
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2 you follow the indications given by the co-therapist.
3 Patient: Yes.
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6 critical moments. Precisely in that moment when you
7 feel fear arising, that you start to feel sick, you take this
8 paper and write down your sensations . . .
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2 Patient: Yes. [Reads.] Date, place, and persons, situation and
3 thoughts . . . symptoms and reactions.
4 Therapist: Well!
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Co-therapist: Symptoms and reactions. You have to fill in all those
6 things at the very moment you start feeling that you are
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8 snapshot: we do not need you to write it after it
9 happens, because that would be a reconstruction . . .
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4 Patient: I stop and I write!
511 Therapist: —and write. Then, in two weeks’ time, we have a series
6 of snapshot images of all those moments. This will help
7 us to understand how it works and what we should do
8 to change it. Therefore, the more precise you are, the
9 more you can help us to help you. Please! [Referring to
311 the wife, who wanted to add something.]
1 Wife: I’m sorry, in case this happens, for example, in the
2 office, and he is alone with a client . . .
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5 idea what you are doing . . . does he?
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8 Therapist: You get hold of a nice notepad, we call it the “captain’s
911 logbook”. You carry it with you in your pocket every-
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5 Patient: Never once did I have a panic attack.
6 Therapist: Not even once?
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911 Therapist: Therefore we are happy!
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111 Therapist: Well, therefore you must have come to notice that this task
2 was not only diagnostic, but it was already therapeutic.
3 Patient: Sure, sure! Just like a small vent. . .
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5 Therapist: Hmm . . . as if to settle the score!
6 Patient: What?
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3 Therapist: Well, well. I made you settle the score and look fear in the
4 face and write it down . . .
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7 Therapist: Very good! However, you never had moments of true
8 panic? They never took place . . .
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3 Wife: There were times where I noticed that something was
4 happening; other times I didn’t.
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2 Therapist: Ah, hmm! So you avoided speaking about it?
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5 Therapist: Was this difficult or easy to do?
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911 you see me?” I mean . . . just to . . .
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111 Patient: The second task was not to speak and then to think, once
2 a day . . .
3 Therapist: How to worsen . . .
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my panic throughout the day. I did not manage to think
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1 Therapist: Oh, yes? Which were these things that came to your mind,
2 which can voluntarily worsen the situation. What did you
3 have to do to worsen the situation?
4 Patient: Go to certain places . . .
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8 Therapist: OK.
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1 Therapist: Hmm!
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4 Therapist: Uh!
5 Patient: And thus . . . let’s say in this time I’ve been to various
6 places, thinking about work, I managed . . .
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8 Therapist: Ah! So you did do certain things you wouldn’t have done
before?
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3 Patient: To do so because they happened, they were not planned,
4 and I was glad that they happened because this gave me
5 the opportunity to face them . . .
6 Therapist: Well, well, well. Therefore, in reality, not only did you not
7 have panic attacks, not only by writing did you manage to
8 melt away anxiety or fear, but you also did things you
911 would have avoided before . . . certain things!
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111 person and the specific context. Furthermore, within the same
2 pathology, we might find different variants that require different
3 orientation of the dialogue. In this regard, at our Centre, work is in
4 progress to systemize all the different questions, paraphrasing, and
5 evocative manoeuvres that are the most suitable internal differenti-
6 ations within the already studied pathologies. Parallel to this there
711 is an ongoing empirical observation to formulate structured
8 dialogues for other pathologies (Servillat, 2004).
9 Second, it is important to demonstrate the non-verbal aspect of
10 the dialogue, which cannot be expressed fully in the transcriptions
1 of the therapeutic dialogues and the comments thereon, but which
2 holds a fundamental role because it amplifies, gives a frame to, and
3 creates ambivalence in relation to verbal communication. It was not
4 by chance that right from the very beginning of our research study
5 on clinical interventions and in our training programmes, we made
6 use of video recording systems, which became the main instrument
7 not only for observation but also for training purposes. In fact, our
8 students, thanks to the videotapes of the sessions in which they
9 progressively participate more actively, are able to watch them-
211 selves, evaluate, and compare their therapeutic performance with
1 that of their supervisor, who sits right there next to them through-
2 out the session. In this way, the student who is learning the tech-
3 nique gradually comes to correct his mistakes, both in the strategy
4 and in the communication, at first by imitating the “master” until
5 he finds the master in himself.
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5 n order to conclude to our exposition we felt it would be useful
6 and, we hope, appreciated by the reader, to put forward a
7 dialogue between the two authors of this book, obviously
8 related to the strategic dialogue.
9 The difference here is that in this dialogue, the two authors, who
30 are like two expert warriors who exchange roles in attacking and
1 defending in order to train themselves in the best possible way to
2 create a sort of harmonic and scenographic dance, both put forward
3 questions, give answers, and propose paraphrases so as to redefine
4 the content of the dialogue.
5 Nardone: Dear Alessandro, I believe that you more than anybody
6 else, in virtue of your long experience as an emeritus scholar of
7 psychology and psychotherapy, can guide me to understand
8 whether this technique is truly something innovative or is just a
911 distorted idea of somebody, i.e. me, who is so much involved in it.
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111 Salvini: Surely, it would be too rushed to say that what seems
2 immediately innovative in the method you propose is the fact that
3 it renders, in any case, the interlocutor active in respect to what is
4 said and done, because change implies an active, not a “passive” or
5 “reactive” individual. In fact, the leap between the old and the new
6 forms of psychotherapy consists of this: the passage from a deter-
7 ministic scheme—where the other is the product of his genes, his
8 education, his family, his past experiences, his personality traits—
9 to a pragmatic scheme, where the subject is in any case the con-
10 structor of his reality through his concrete and symbolic interaction
1 with himself, others, and the world.
2 As we have stated on previous occasions, “pragmatic” does not
3 mean “practical”. According to Dewey (1916) and James (1890), this
4 means a diverse way of looking at psychological problems. What
5 the patient says about himself, feels and perceives, relates and acts,
6 is always the result of an interpretative process of a single mode of
711 manipulating his story. His narrative of the truth exploits and
8 manipulates the historical, distorting it towards a certain direction
9 and meaning. In the case of pathologies, these are the dysfunctional
20 and redundant attempts to control or solve the problem. In this
1 sense, the strategic dialogue, with its focus on getting to know a
2 problem through its solution, represents, undeniably, an epistemo-
3 logical evolution.
4 Moreover, in line with the pragmatic tradition, this model takes
511 up a position that regards the patient as a person whose ideas and
6 feelings are not limited to mere reflection of his psycho-biographic
7 reality or the actual facts and conditioning he has undergone, but
8 are factors that the person transforms and elaborates to produce an
9 “experience” and a consequent way of perceiving and acting on
311 things. Thus, the strategic therapist is first and foremost a psychol-
1 ogist or psychiatrist who has changed the way of thinking by pass-
2 ing through a positivist empiricist to a pragmatic paradigm, or,
3 rather, to an “interactionism” free from a physicist, aprioristic,
4 factual, deterministic hindrance.
5 Often, in contrast to what one might think, it is the psychologist
6 and psychiatrist who are resistant to this paradigmatic leap; their
7 cognitive resistances are functional to keep up their identity in line
8 with the social expectancies of the role they hold. One can pour new
911 knowledge into a vase but the new knowledge will not modify
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111 the vase, or, more likely, the former will take the shape of the
2 latter.
3 A further innovative characteristic of this technique is that this
4 type of dialogue differentiates itself from other communicative
5 methods used in psychotherapy, because it is a true and proper
6 strategic intervention, where the subject is led to a take up the point
711 of view suggested by the therapist. For example, he accepts that the
8 attempted solutions have dysfunctional effects, and the natural
9 tendency, without being told so directly, is that of wanting to
10 change this. This dialogue between the therapist and the patient is
1 a very particular form of communication. In syntheses, we can say
2 that it is a co-construction of reality, where the subject is unaware
3 but actively involved. It consists of leading the other to convince
4 himself that he is seeing things through a perspective that in real-
5 ity is suggested by the therapist through a funnel-like, dualistic
6 stratagem of questions and answers.
7 These questions have a double task, that of making the patient
8 aware of how he confronts his reality while at the same time lead-
9 ing him to choose from antagonistic options, a diverse mode of
211 “configuring” it. The successive paraphrases will anchor these
1 assumptions as truly lived experiences. All this leads to an effective
2 change in the mode of perceiving things. In other words, if the
3 person is a victim of self-deception, he can be cured through
4 another self-deception. A characteristic of this way of conducting a
5 therapeutic dialogue, which is truly innovative, is that of trans-
6 forming the patient’s pathogenic self-deceptions, of which he is the
7 actual artificer.
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9
the change acquired in such a rapid way by this type of therapeu-
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1
change that after a while will be followed by relapses, by a return
2
to the patient’s old pathogenic model?
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4 Salvini: Well, dear Giorgio, human psychological problems are
5 particular problems. The way they are generated and might be
6 solved implies a diverse way of thinking from that used to solve
7 physical problems. Individuals are active subjects who construct
8 events which they then have to endure. Their level of reality is
911 inscribed not only in concrete experience, but also in the explicit or
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111 gies, we observed that certain scripts with failed attempted solu-
2 tions are similar for different individuals suffering from the same
3 pathology. Thus, it is not the personality of the suffering subject that
4 determines the pathogenic attempted solution, but the organization
5 of the problem that structures similar answers even in different
6 persons. This also indicates that certain redundant modalities that
711 aim to manage the problem tend to establish a form of equilibrium
8 that resists change and forms around itself a whole series of other
9 equilibria that are interdependent, which, at some point, will render
10 it functional or, better still, useful. For example, for a person suffer-
1 ing from a phobic disorder who continuously asks for help from his
2 partner or mother in order to be able to confront threatening situa-
3 tions, the persistent use of this script will, over time, structure a
4 morbid relationship between the person and his privileged helper.
5 Thus, having a problem becomes a sort of advantage.
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Salvini: Dear Giorgio . . . let’s paraphrase together your
7
answers. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but from what you said, it
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seems important to repeat, using Austin’s words, “to say is to act”;
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it constitutes an experience that, if well-focused, becomes self-
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corrective.
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3 You believe, if I understood clearly, that this form of the strate-
4 gic dialogue is applicable to all psychological dysfunctions. How-
5 ever, it is up to the therapist’s ability to bring to a halt the problem,
6 not only as a symptom but also the representations, the mental
7 organizations, and the behaviours that the person uses in a recur-
8 ring way to manage his problems.
9 Finally, if I’m not mistaken, you believe that the secondary
30 advantages that are constructed on the bases of the pathological
1 dynamics become important in the organization of the person, even
2 though they are dysfunctional. For example, certain relationships
3 remain stable thanks to the persistence of a symptom. Research
4 shows that such symptomatic expressions, or, better, the redundant
5 scripts of dysfunctional attempted solutions, are not caused by
6 alterations in the subject’s personality, but are the result of the effect
7 of the subject’s dysfunctional interactions with situations that acti-
8 vated pathogenic perceptions and reactions, which, over time,
911 became a true and proper pathology.
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111 Nardone: That’s right. I’m pleased to hear that you have under-
2 stood my idea so well!
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4 Salvini: Please allow me, Giorgio, to wrap up with a reflection
5 that I would like to propose to the reader. All that has been
6 described in this text might seem cynical, sophistic, tricky, and so
7 forth, but in this case (in a de-ontological reality which is highly
8 controlled and professionally qualified) the joint aim of the thera-
9 pist and the patient justifies the means. In surgery this is a recurrent
10 standard procedure to give back the patient his health, which might
1 be described as “manipulative”, “devious” (tricky), etc. It is looking
2 at things, assuming an implicit moral judgement on the use of
3 words, to find the metaphysical truth. Even an elementary school
4 teacher manipulates the attention of his students. He manipulates
5 their minds by making them concentrate on certain notions and not
6 on others. In certain cases, it is necessary to take away the words
711 from the moralizing shadow of their recurrent use. Even the word,
8 “cynical”: its original lexical meaning is “a way of thinking and of
9 acting in which holds a certain distrust towards rules, habits, and
20 conventions imposed by tradition (nomos)”. The Cynics were pro-
1 ponents of a sober, anti-conventional mode of thinking, drawn to
2 cultivate the ethic as a personal conquest. This then became a true
3 life style and a way of thinking. Antisthenes, Talete, and Lucian of
4 Samostata, to cite a few, are among those Cynics that have under-
511 gone instrumentally moralized judgement on behalf of other
6 schools of philosophy; they were especially forced into confession
7 as demanded by the religious and political authority, i.e., to follow
8 the aprioristic and authoritarian definition of how an individual
9 should perceive and act. The psychological dysfunctions (which we
311 usually call psychopathologies) are the offspring of an authoritar-
1 ian and dogmatic mode of generating reality which, due to this, the
2 person tends to limit to a single expression its meanings and
3 actions, to render it pervasive, redundant, and a generator of failed
4 attempted solutions. We can, therefore, recognize the value of the
5 strategic dialogue not only in the ancient Sophistic tradition but
6 also in the Cynic school. The negative sense—instrumental and
7 improper—of the terms “sophist” and “cynic” becomes irrelevant.
8 The strategic dialogue that we have described so far, in line with
911 these traditions, not only guides the person to discover how to
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111 solve his problems, but also helps him invent his own freedom from
2 the rigid pathogenic and normative traps typical of ideological
3 visions. Among its various powerful exponents, we find the tradi-
4 tional forms of psychiatric-ism. Ancient and modern history teaches
5 us that this is one of the most recurring examples.
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only does it enthuse me but it brings to my mind the words of three
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what you have affirmed.
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regards mental traps as a form of rigid schemes created by humans
2
who need to give to the world more order and regularity than it
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actually has.
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5
risks of tying ourselves to reassuring descriptive theories. He
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invites us to use these theories not as point of arrival but as a
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spring-board, since they are instruments in our research and not the
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answers to our enigmas.
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the problem or to change a reality constructively. He stated that to
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accuse others of their own miseries is a proof of human ignorance;
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to accuse oneself denotes an initiation of understanding; while to
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stop accusing others and oneself denotes true wisdom.
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8 dialogue on the strategic dialogue?
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211 Abbagnano, N., 2 Beavin, J. H., 117
1 absolutist ideology, 6 Berti, E., 113
2 Alexander, F., 113 Bonaparte, N., 46
Altshuller, G., 35, 113 Boorstin, D. J., 5, 7, 10, 114
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Anonymous, 113 Bordin, A. M., 14, 117
4 aphorism(s), 3, 24, 42–43, 65
5 Aristotle, 7–8, 113 Cagnoni, F., 14, 115
6 art of argumentation, stratagems, case studies
7 xi, 2, 5, 9, 27, 30, 34, 42–43, 50 Cinzia (dysmorphophobia),
8 see also: communication, 50–59
rhetoric, therapeutic eating disorder patient
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techniques (vomiting), 65, 67–84
30 Eristic, 2 female manager (managerial
1 Maieutic, 5–6 depression), 58–66
2 assessment questions, xiv patient suffering panic attacks,
3 Astin, A. E., 13, 113 84–100
4 attempted solution, 14, 21–22, 25, Catholic
30, 38, 40–41, 48, 51, 53, 63, 70, church, 8–9
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84, 87–89, 100, 105, 108–110 hereafter, 10
6 Austin, J. L., 13, 106, 109, 113 Centre of Strategic Therapy,
7 Arezzo, xi, xiii, 65, 107
8 Bacon, F., 11, 111, 113 chessboard example, 28–29
911 Bateson, G., 12–13, 113 Christian, 2, 8, 35
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111
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3
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5
6
711
8
9
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
211
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
30
1
2
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5
6
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911
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8
9
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
711
8
9
20
1
2
3
4
511
6
7
8
9
311
1
2
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4
5
6
7
8
911
Nardone Dialogues/correx 10/23/07 9:38 AM Page 125
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3
4
5
6
711
8
9
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
211
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
30
1
2
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5
6
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8
911
Nardone Dialogues/correx 10/23/07 9:38 AM Page 126
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5
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8
9
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
711
8
9
20
1
2
3
4
511
6
7
8
9
311
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
911
Nardone Dialogues/correx 10/23/07 9:38 AM Page 127
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3
4
5
6
711
8
9
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
211
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
30
1
2
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5
6
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8
911
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4
5
6
7
8
9
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
711
8
9
20
1
2
3
4
511
6
7
8
9
311
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
911
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111
2
3
4
5
6
711
8
9
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
211
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
30
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
911
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4
5
6
7
8
9
10
1
2
3
4
5
6
711
8
9
20
1
2
3
4
511
6
7
8
9
311
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
911