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Previously on "The Walking Dead"...

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I said break it up. There's
enough food for everyone.

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- One week.
- We just took in

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two new communities.

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We have no crops, no back stock.

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I know one more place... Meridian.

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The place I lived before this.

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Run!

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Aah!

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Go! Go!

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Run!

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Dog!

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Gah!

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No! No!

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Let him go.

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I said let him go.

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I never thought I'd see you again.

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Yeah, I thought the same.

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What're you doing out here?

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You alone?

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You see anybody with me?

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I saw you out on the
road with the others.

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Who are they?

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You one of them?

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Crossed a small group on the road.

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No. I ain't one of them.

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I travel light, like always.

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We're gonna go. Come on, boy.

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Come on.
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- Well, that's funny.
- What's funny?

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I always thought he liked you better.

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Look, I don't know who you're fighting,

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but I am not part of it.

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We're going. Come on!

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Let's see if you're right.

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I came back for you.

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I looked everywhere for you.

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I'm sorry you ended
up with these people.

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These people are my family.

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They never stopped looking for me.

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When they found me, I came home.

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How about your family, Daryl?
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The ones you told me about?

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That who was out on the road?

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My family picked the wrong
fight with the wrong people

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a long time ago.

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It's like I told you, I'm alone.

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You're filthy.

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Up.

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Again!

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The others.

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Are they still out there?

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Hmm?

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Are they close?

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I don't know.

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Who's the leader?

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Is it the woman?

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I ain't one of them.

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Bullshit.

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Enough.

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Shaw?

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I said stop.

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I'll handle him.

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He'll crack. I just
need a little more time.

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I've given you enough time already.

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I said up!

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I need you to cooperate.

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I told you everything.

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You told us nothing.

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Talk.

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The one we answer to won't be so nice.
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I traded with them.

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They gave me some food.

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I hauled some gear.

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I knew them less than a week.

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Unh-unh.

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Go ahead, kill me if you want.

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I got nothing else to say.

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Should've never brought him back.

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I know what I'm doing.

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Yeah, you keep saying that.

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Daryl?

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Is that you?

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The others? Are they okay?

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I don't know where your friends are.

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I don't care, neither.

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- But I...
- But nothing.

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Just 'cause we shared a bag of grain

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does not make me give a shit about you.

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Understand?

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Whatever beef you
have with these people,

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I want no part of it.

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You hear me?

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You need to shut up and leave me alone.

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Got it?

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I got it, yeah.

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I was right about you.

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Shoulda let you starve.

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Asshole.

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I ain't telling you bastards a thing.
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Get up. Get up!

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Let me go!

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Just as stubborn as ever.

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Is that what you think this is?

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Hmm?

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Me being stubborn?

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Fine.

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Hard-headed.

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You need to tell me the truth.

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I've never lied to you.

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Never, Leah.

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I'm not gonna start now.

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Let's try this again.

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What do you know about those people?

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I don't know shit.

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I'd help you if I could.

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You know I would.

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Just give me Dog, let me go,

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you'll never see me again.

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Is that what you want?

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What is it?

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Found Bossie.

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And Turner?

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I tried. I couldn't save him.

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- I tried.
- It's okay, son.

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You did the right thing.

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You brought him home.

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Lord, we release our
brother Turner to you.

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Please, hold him close.
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In your name, oh Lord, amen.

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Amen.

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God is here.

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He's angry.

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I'm angry.

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Do you feel that?

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Hmm?

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Go make them feel our wrath.

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What happened?

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One of my brothers is dead.

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Michael Turner was his name.

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We fought all over the world together.

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Pope brought him in after our last tour,

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when he started his company.

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I thought you were soldiers.

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We were.

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Then we went private.

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You didn't tell me you were a merc.

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Mm, does it matter?

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I mean, it's the same damn job.

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Except we could actually pay our bills.

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Michael was like me, you know?

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He didn't have a family.

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He was the little brother I never had.

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You know, the little
brother I always wanted.

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And he's dead.

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You know, we lost a lot of people...

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here, and it's been hard.

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Not like this.
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This is the first time

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I've lost someone close
to me in a long time.

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Well...

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except maybe for you.

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You didn't lose me.

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I came back and you were gone.

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You left me.

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I asked you what you wanted.

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You left.

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I got scared.

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Of what?

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Letting go.

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It doesn't matter. It
wouldn't have worked anyway.

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Couldn't have been happy.

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Not in a world like this.

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Is that you talking or your family?

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Like you've never done things?

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Killed people.

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I know the things you've done.

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You have no right to judge, not at all.

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This is me, Daryl.

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The good and the bad.

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All of it. It always has been.

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I don't believe you.

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Well, I can't help with that.

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But I can help you save yourself.

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Because despite everything,
I still care about you,

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and I don't want anything
bad to happen to you.

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So, you need to tell me something.

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Anything.

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'Cause if you can't, I
can't control my commander

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or what he will do next.

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He's angry about Turner,

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and he wants someone to pay.

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There's a woman.

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She's the leader.

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They were speaking in code
'cause I was an outsider.

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There was a tall, skinny guy.

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Never shuts up.

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And a priest who carries a shotgun.

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That's their leadership?

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Yeah. But they have the numbers.

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And one of their soldiers slipped up,
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and he was gonna go meet
three dozen of their fighters.

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That's way more than
the 15 you got here.

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Well, you've been doing
your work down here, huh?

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I'm gonna get you out of here

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so you can be more comfortable.

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When do I meet him?

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This Pope?

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Soon.

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Well, you were right.

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He was hard to break.

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He told me there are a lot
more out there than we thought.

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More than twice the
force we have in here.

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I think he'll be good here.

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And we need the manpower,

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with Turner gone

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and Nicholls and Montanio still missing.

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Say something.

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You know I hate it when you do this.

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Do what?

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Freeze me out.

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Not everything is about you, Leah.

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I never said it was.

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Oh, no?

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'Cause here we are.

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Losing a day of tracking our enemy

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'cause you... you had to
go on a fishing expedition

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with an old boyfriend.

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So, go on, then.
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Tell me.

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You find what you're looking for?

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I told you he would be
useful, and I was right.

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He's a lot like us.

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Pain doesn't scare him,
death doesn't scare him.

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Carver saw it.

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Come on, you see it.

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I just see a guy who
wants to get in your pants.

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Fine.

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Fine.

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Who couldn't stop gazing
at somebody he loved.

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I never said he loved me.

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Oh.

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You could've ended him out there today,

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and you didn't.

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Why?

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At one point, he meant
something to me, yeah.

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I've been open about that.

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But it ended the day you found me

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and I chose this family,

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and I have never once
regretted that decision,

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and I don't want you to, either.

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Do you?

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I believe in you.

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More than the others.

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I know.

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You think we can trust him?

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Yeah.
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Good.

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Now, let me see for myself.

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You got something to say?

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Come on, man. Don't be shy.

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You're about to meet the man.

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Yeah, save that coy
shit for your girlfriend.

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Aww, Shaw ain't nobody's girlfriend.

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I'm betting she wears the
pants with homeboy here.

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Isn't that right?

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You don't know shit about shit, Carver.

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Knock it off.

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I guess I'll just show
my dumb ass out, then.

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Pope is on his way.

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Anything you wanna tell me
about this guy before I meet him?

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Just follow my lead.

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Hey!

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Aah!

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Here! Take it! Take it!

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Aah!

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Aah!

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Here! Here!

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00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,135
Come on.

281
00:32:43,675 --> 00:32:45,631
Forged by fire.

282
00:32:47,461 --> 00:32:50,462
Ordained by God.

283
00:32:52,423 --> 00:32:54,553
Welcome him!

284
00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:56,903
Fortitudo Saludis!

285
00:33:04,367 --> 00:33:06,611
You believe in God?

286
00:33:08,482 --> 00:33:11,222
No. No, I don't.

287
00:33:11,224 --> 00:33:14,312
Not anymore.

288
00:33:14,314 --> 00:33:16,097
Guess I just believe in me now.

289
00:33:16,099 --> 00:33:17,315
Hmm.

290
00:33:17,317 --> 00:33:19,926
Well, that's a mistake.

291
00:33:19,928 --> 00:33:22,409
- Why's that?
- 'Cause you're not Him.

292
00:33:23,584 --> 00:33:25,932
I passed your little test, didn't I?

293
00:33:25,934 --> 00:33:27,282
Whatever you want to call it.

294
00:33:27,284 --> 00:33:30,502
Oh, and you think that's the end of it?

295
00:33:30,504 --> 00:33:33,757
What else do you want from me?

296
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,806
I want...

297
00:33:38,129 --> 00:33:40,653
I want you to understand.

298
00:33:50,785 --> 00:33:52,961
Sit down.

299
00:33:56,574 --> 00:34:01,925
We all met in the Valley of Death.

300
00:34:01,927 --> 00:34:05,015
That's what we call it, anyway.

301
00:34:05,017 --> 00:34:06,973
Hills of Afghanistan.
302
00:34:06,975 --> 00:34:09,585
We fought for our country,

303
00:34:09,587 --> 00:34:12,805
carried our fallen
brothers off the field.

304
00:34:12,807 --> 00:34:16,028
Carried so many, we
lost count after a while.

305
00:34:19,553 --> 00:34:21,990
Politicians.

306
00:34:24,732 --> 00:34:26,732
They wrote the checks.

307
00:34:26,734 --> 00:34:28,517
We weren't anything to them.

308
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:30,539
Just props.

309
00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:33,174
Props for their next campaign.

310
00:34:33,176 --> 00:34:36,483
See, they... they talked about God.

311
00:34:38,050 --> 00:34:40,442
They didn't know God.

312
00:34:40,444 --> 00:34:43,314
They never saw His face.

313
00:34:43,316 --> 00:34:45,534
It's not like we did.

314
00:34:45,536 --> 00:34:49,625
We saw God everywhere.

315
00:34:49,627 --> 00:34:53,672
He was in the blood and
the horror and death.
316
00:34:53,674 --> 00:34:58,199
He was there, telling us where to go.

317
00:35:00,507 --> 00:35:04,828
Didn't have much else to hold
on to in those days but Him.

318
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,210
And each other.

319
00:35:11,083 --> 00:35:13,520
You smoke?

320
00:35:27,417 --> 00:35:32,885
That war damn near
ruined all of us for good.

321
00:35:32,887 --> 00:35:36,762
Came home and my guys
had permanent injuries.

322
00:35:36,765 --> 00:35:38,021
They couldn't sleep.

323
00:35:38,023 --> 00:35:40,632
They couldn't find real jobs.

324
00:35:42,419 --> 00:35:45,768
So...

325
00:35:45,770 --> 00:35:49,511
people called us mercenaries.

326
00:35:49,513 --> 00:35:52,514
We did all the ugly, dirty work

327
00:35:52,516 --> 00:35:55,604
nobody else wanted to do.

328
00:35:55,606 --> 00:35:57,203
Got paid for it, too.

329
00:35:57,206 --> 00:35:59,007
Handsomely.
330
00:36:03,483 --> 00:36:07,006
The real dirty work
started after the Fall.

331
00:36:13,101 --> 00:36:15,626
Never been in a war like that.

332
00:36:18,106 --> 00:36:21,978
Never seen that kind of chaos,

333
00:36:21,980 --> 00:36:25,286
and I had seen everything.

334
00:36:27,246 --> 00:36:29,596
But this...

335
00:36:32,904 --> 00:36:37,080
Oh, the things we did.

336
00:36:37,082 --> 00:36:42,130
All that death, day
after day after day...

337
00:36:43,741 --> 00:36:47,482
After a while, I
started to feel like you.

338
00:36:49,137 --> 00:36:53,052
Wondering... Wondering where God was.

339
00:36:54,534 --> 00:36:57,187
Until He showed His face again.

340
00:36:57,189 --> 00:37:00,799
See, politicians... they had
one last war to get behind.

341
00:37:00,801 --> 00:37:04,675
This time, coming for us.

342
00:37:07,539 --> 00:37:11,715
The bombs came thick and fast.

343
00:37:11,725 --> 00:37:14,476
It did not stop.

344
00:37:14,479 --> 00:37:15,996
We lost some of our own,

345
00:37:15,999 --> 00:37:20,031
had to run through
the fire to save them.

346
00:37:22,345 --> 00:37:24,823
Found this little church
at the edge of town,

347
00:37:24,825 --> 00:37:26,564
and we holed up there as everything...

348
00:37:26,566 --> 00:37:32,137
And I mean everything...
Burned around us.

349
00:37:33,921 --> 00:37:36,792
When the fires finally died down,

350
00:37:36,794 --> 00:37:39,144
I looked at my people...

351
00:37:40,624 --> 00:37:43,191
I could not believe it.

352
00:37:45,237 --> 00:37:48,543
Not a trace of blood.

353
00:37:48,545 --> 00:37:51,502
No burn marks.

354
00:37:51,504 --> 00:37:54,505
Not even a scratch.

355
00:37:54,507 --> 00:37:58,117
And that's when I knew.

356
00:38:02,733 --> 00:38:05,736
We were the Chosen Ones.

357
00:38:08,114 --> 00:38:10,419
These men...

358
00:38:10,422 --> 00:38:15,569
These men upon whose bodies
the fire had no power.

359
00:38:21,012 --> 00:38:23,404
God chose you tonight.

360
00:38:24,581 --> 00:38:27,843
I mean, you... you came out of that fire

361
00:38:27,845 --> 00:38:30,889
alive and whole.

362
00:38:30,891 --> 00:38:34,153
And look at you now, sitting right here.

363
00:38:34,155 --> 00:38:36,062
Are you hurt?

364
00:38:36,065 --> 00:38:37,548
Hmm?

365
00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:39,637
Any burns?

366
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:41,596
A scratch?

367
00:38:44,252 --> 00:38:46,601
I've been through worse before.

368
00:38:54,306 --> 00:38:59,048
Are. You. Hungry?

369
00:39:32,083 --> 00:39:33,414
You were right.

370
00:39:33,417 --> 00:39:35,084
About this one.

371
00:39:35,086 --> 00:39:37,393
Of course I was.
372
00:39:40,308 --> 00:39:42,439
Give him some, Bossie.

373
00:39:42,441 --> 00:39:45,094
Don't be greedy.

374
00:39:45,096 --> 00:39:47,117
He's family now.

375
00:39:53,704 --> 00:39:56,710
You know what he did, don't you?

376
00:39:56,713 --> 00:40:02,546
He walked 10 miles with his
dead brother on his back.

377
00:40:02,549 --> 00:40:04,504
10 miles.

378
00:40:04,507 --> 00:40:08,075
The strength that took...

379
00:40:09,646 --> 00:40:12,475
You have any idea how grateful we are?

380
00:40:15,343 --> 00:40:17,735
Turner will have a proper burial.

381
00:40:17,737 --> 00:40:22,085
Just did what any one
of us would've done.

382
00:40:22,088 --> 00:40:23,882
Mm.

383
00:40:30,576 --> 00:40:31,967
These still hurt?

384
00:40:31,969 --> 00:40:34,143
Hmm?

385
00:40:34,145 --> 00:40:36,626
You need anything?

386
00:40:42,196 --> 00:40:45,197
I just have one question.

387
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:47,809
S-Sure.

388
00:40:47,811 --> 00:40:51,117
Something's been bothering me.

389
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,555
Your wounds...

390
00:40:53,558 --> 00:40:55,109
are on your back.

391
00:40:55,112 --> 00:40:58,035
Pope, it's been a rough day.

392
00:40:58,038 --> 00:41:00,952
Just getting clarity, Shaw.

393
00:41:05,263 --> 00:41:08,220
Where were you when
Turner was being attacked?

394
00:41:08,222 --> 00:41:09,961
I-I was right there,
just like I told you.

395
00:41:09,963 --> 00:41:12,442
Uh-huh.

396
00:41:12,444 --> 00:41:14,575
Facing the enemy?

397
00:41:14,577 --> 00:41:15,793
Yeah.

398
00:41:15,795 --> 00:41:18,317
He's been through enough.

399
00:41:28,198 --> 00:41:32,375
Human nature is to run
when you are scared.

400
00:41:32,377 --> 00:41:34,769
You know what that's like, right?

401
00:41:38,775 --> 00:41:44,430
It takes divine strength
to face your fear head-on.

402
00:41:44,432 --> 00:41:48,217
Risk everything for someone else.

403
00:41:48,219 --> 00:41:50,828
We all saw what you did.

404
00:41:50,830 --> 00:41:52,743
Getting Shaw out of the fire first,

405
00:41:52,745 --> 00:41:56,007
and you felt it, huh?

406
00:41:56,009 --> 00:42:00,448
How far he would go
just to keep you safe.

407
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,194
Today, God baptized you in that fire.

408
00:42:09,044 --> 00:42:11,568
Made you one of us.

409
00:42:14,027 --> 00:42:16,637
You see...

410
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:20,466
there's one thing I forgot to tell you.

411
00:42:20,468 --> 00:42:22,773
Never turn your back on your brother.

412
00:42:28,651 --> 00:42:32,261
God doesn't only use
fire as His baptism.

413
00:42:37,007 --> 00:42:39,398
It's also His wrath.

414
00:42:43,187 --> 00:42:44,795
Aah!

415
00:43:05,296 --> 00:43:09,298
We are the Chosen Ones!

416
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:12,796
We run into the battle.

417
00:43:12,799 --> 00:43:15,696
We run into the fire.

418
00:43:18,309 --> 00:43:22,224
Always.

419
00:43:44,367 --> 00:43:45,952
We can't stay.

420
00:43:47,338 --> 00:43:49,294
We need to help our friends.

421
00:43:49,296 --> 00:43:50,774
I want to help.

422
00:43:50,776 --> 00:43:52,167
Are you sure?

423
00:43:52,169 --> 00:43:53,995
This is our home.

424
00:43:53,997 --> 00:43:55,910
We got to fight to save it.

425
00:43:57,957 --> 00:44:01,132
The only way this works
is if we trust each other.

426
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:20,195
When we see the
Reapers, they're in these

427
00:44:20,197 --> 00:44:22,414
crazy, scary masks.

428
00:44:22,416 --> 00:44:25,374
Our inspiration for these
was sort of a mish-mash

429
00:44:25,376 --> 00:44:26,810
of different influences.

430
00:44:26,812 --> 00:44:29,857
Military can sometimes
have tactical masks.

431
00:44:29,859 --> 00:44:32,598
And sometimes they do
have things like skulls

432
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,644
or interesting designs on them.

433
00:44:34,646 --> 00:44:37,342
And then we were also just
looking at different kinds

434
00:44:37,344 --> 00:44:42,086
of post-apocalyptic concept
art, video games, to just things

435
00:44:42,088 --> 00:44:45,437
that are written about with
people in gas masks and stuff.

436
00:44:45,439 --> 00:44:48,106
And, when we were thinking
about, like, what is the look

437
00:44:48,109 --> 00:44:51,792
of this crew, they're
almost like these faceless

438
00:44:51,794 --> 00:44:54,215
people that come in
like the Grim Reaper.

439
00:44:55,841 --> 00:44:58,712
Because of Dog being
separated from Daryl,

440
00:44:58,714 --> 00:45:02,036
he chases Dog and finds
the dog with this Reaper.

441
00:45:02,039 --> 00:45:04,805
And it turns out the Reaper is Leah.

442
00:45:04,807 --> 00:45:08,069
We had always planned
for that to be the story.

443
00:45:08,071 --> 00:45:09,897
This is not a story we came up with

444
00:45:09,899 --> 00:45:13,639
after that first episode
with Daryl and Leah aired.

445
00:45:13,641 --> 00:45:15,903
And, also, a lot of time has passed.

446
00:45:15,905 --> 00:45:19,297
So, there's obviously a
story that has happened

447
00:45:19,299 --> 00:45:21,256
in the interim and when they kinda

448
00:45:21,258 --> 00:45:23,606
crash into each other,
there's a whole lot

449
00:45:23,608 --> 00:45:25,739
that's going on through Daryl's head.

450
00:45:25,741 --> 00:45:28,872
But the first thing is, "I
gotta lie to get out of it."

451
00:45:28,874 --> 00:45:31,483
Like, whatever I have to
say to do to get out of this,

452
00:45:31,485 --> 00:45:33,834
like, I'm gonna leverage
that little bit of trust

453
00:45:33,836 --> 00:45:36,356
that she has in me, to help my people.

454
00:45:36,359 --> 00:45:39,840
Because as soon as he sees
her on the other side of this,

455
00:45:39,842 --> 00:45:43,504
he's like, "Okay, maybe
I was wrong about her,

456
00:45:43,507 --> 00:45:46,301
but I'm not really gonna hang
around to try to figure it out.

457
00:45:46,304 --> 00:45:47,848
Look, I don't know who you're fightin'

458
00:45:47,851 --> 00:45:49,675
but I am not part of it.

459
00:45:53,507 --> 00:45:56,160
The way that we always
thought about this group

460
00:45:56,162 --> 00:46:00,469
is that they probably have a
series of things that they do

461
00:46:00,471 --> 00:46:04,512
when they come across what would
be enemy combatants to them.

462
00:46:04,515 --> 00:46:07,868
They were all, basically
like, military contractors

463
00:46:07,870 --> 00:46:09,870
or what some would call mercenaries.

464
00:46:09,872 --> 00:46:14,744
And they were doing these things
at a time when there was a lot

465
00:46:14,746 --> 00:46:17,225
of torture that was,
sort of, like, sanctioned
466
00:46:17,227 --> 00:46:19,749
in the military, so they've all learned

467
00:46:19,751 --> 00:46:21,446
those techniques and
became very familiar

468
00:46:21,448 --> 00:46:23,535
with them before the world fell.

469
00:46:23,537 --> 00:46:26,082
And so for The Reapers,

470
00:46:26,085 --> 00:46:27,931
this is just part of
what they have to do.

471
00:46:27,933 --> 00:46:31,674
And I think Leah is a
character that she can't be seen

472
00:46:31,676 --> 00:46:34,512
to be showing any
softness towards anybody.

473
00:46:34,515 --> 00:46:38,768
She is part of this group and
she answers to somebody else.

474
00:46:38,770 --> 00:46:42,119
So, she may be the
one, at least in name,

475
00:46:42,121 --> 00:46:45,079
in charge of the situation,
but I think that question

476
00:46:45,081 --> 00:46:47,603
sits out there, like,
is she really in charge

477
00:46:47,605 --> 00:46:49,997
of this situation or
has she been asked to

478
00:46:49,999 --> 00:46:52,782
carry out orders and she
feels that she needs to?

479
00:46:52,784 --> 00:46:55,045
She doesn't love what
she's seeing, you know,

480
00:46:55,047 --> 00:46:58,098
and she puts a stop
to it or a pause to it

481
00:46:58,101 --> 00:47:01,138
when it feels like it's
going too far or too long.

482
00:47:01,140 --> 00:47:04,402
So there's just a lot
of complicated emotions

483
00:47:04,404 --> 00:47:06,274
that are running
through the whole thing.

484
00:47:06,276 --> 00:47:10,408
The one we answer to won't be so nice.

485
00:47:10,410 --> 00:47:13,411
We got really fortunate
in casting Ritchie Coster

486
00:47:13,413 --> 00:47:14,804
in this role as Pope.

487
00:47:14,806 --> 00:47:17,415
He just had a take on it right away.

488
00:47:17,417 --> 00:47:19,853
When we were developing this character,

489
00:47:19,855 --> 00:47:23,813
one of the things that we
talked about is just this idea

490
00:47:23,815 --> 00:47:26,457
of being chosen and what that can,

491
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:30,385
in the most extreme
versions, cause people to do.

492
00:47:30,387 --> 00:47:33,903
For Pope, we just felt
that it'd be interesting to

493
00:47:33,906 --> 00:47:36,608
kind of illustrate somebody who

494
00:47:36,610 --> 00:47:39,200
probably was a brilliant tactical mind,

495
00:47:39,203 --> 00:47:43,050
was probably a really great commander,

496
00:47:43,052 --> 00:47:47,010
and yet, became kind of
disgruntled by the system

497
00:47:47,012 --> 00:47:49,970
and felt left behind in some ways.

498
00:47:49,972 --> 00:47:53,536
And saw people that he
felt were left behind.

499
00:47:53,539 --> 00:47:56,759
There was this story, this
thing that felt miraculous

500
00:47:56,761 --> 00:47:58,892
happened, which is
actually not that uncommon.

501
00:47:58,894 --> 00:48:01,198
Which is that, sometimes,
you're in a building

502
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,419
in a raging fire and the
fire jumps your building.

503
00:48:04,421 --> 00:48:09,163
That's when I knew we
were the chosen ones.
504
00:48:09,165 --> 00:48:12,427
God had spared them all
for something important

505
00:48:12,429 --> 00:48:14,864
and that made him feel
like he needed to go

506
00:48:14,866 --> 00:48:18,389
throughout this after time
and grab what they needed

507
00:48:18,391 --> 00:48:19,913
on behalf of his people.

508
00:48:19,915 --> 00:48:21,871
And, you know, in many ways he has been

509
00:48:21,873 --> 00:48:23,699
an effective leader of his people

510
00:48:23,701 --> 00:48:25,570
in that he has kept them safe and alive,

511
00:48:25,572 --> 00:48:27,598
but at what cost to anybody else?

512
00:48:29,402 --> 00:48:35,667
This idea of a trial by fire
just felt like this divine test.

513
00:48:35,669 --> 00:48:39,497
We felt like that was just a
very dramatic way to illustrate

514
00:48:39,499 --> 00:48:42,587
the type of danger that
they're all in but Leah, too.

515
00:48:42,589 --> 00:48:45,068
For whatever it's
worth, there is a kind of

516
00:48:45,070 --> 00:48:47,825
a turning point for Leah
in that moment as well.

517
00:48:47,828 --> 00:48:51,074
Because it's one thing to
be inside the circle of love

518
00:48:51,076 --> 00:48:53,685
and to feel like she's
one of his favorites

519
00:48:53,687 --> 00:48:57,090
and he sees her as a daughter,
but what kind of father

520
00:48:57,093 --> 00:48:59,735
sticks their daughter in
a room and sets it on fire?

521
00:48:59,737 --> 00:49:01,856
With, like, no obvious way to get out?

522
00:49:01,859 --> 00:49:04,536
That is super, super intense.

523
00:49:04,539 --> 00:49:06,916
And so, for both of these characters,

524
00:49:06,918 --> 00:49:10,746
they kinda come out of this
and Pope intends for them

525
00:49:10,748 --> 00:49:13,923
to come out feeling like
changed people and they do

526
00:49:13,925 --> 00:49:17,057
but maybe not in the way that
he's thinking is gonna happen.

527
00:49:20,932 --> 00:49:23,759
In this scene where he puts
Bossy's head in the fire,

528
00:49:23,761 --> 00:49:26,327
we wanted to kind of show a few things.

529
00:49:26,329 --> 00:49:30,270
One is that, you know, in
the apocalypse we've seen

530
00:49:30,273 --> 00:49:32,115
our characters, we've seen villains,

531
00:49:32,117 --> 00:49:35,118
we've seen a lot of them do
some pretty intense things.

532
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,555
And, the question is, who are the people

533
00:49:37,557 --> 00:49:39,079
that are gonna stand up to that

534
00:49:39,081 --> 00:49:41,472
and who is just gonna
try to live with it

535
00:49:41,474 --> 00:49:45,868
and who is complicit in
it who is cheering it on?

536
00:49:45,870 --> 00:49:49,350
Daryl's just kind of
coming into this situation

537
00:49:49,352 --> 00:49:53,789
knowing very little about
them and he's still learning

538
00:49:53,791 --> 00:49:56,200
what all of it means
and where they all stand.

539
00:49:56,203 --> 00:49:58,457
And the big lesson out of this is

540
00:49:58,460 --> 00:50:01,318
nobody's gonna stand up to Pope easily.

541
00:50:05,150 --> 00:50:08,760
I think for some of
them it's a wake-up call
542
00:50:08,762 --> 00:50:12,721
to realize, like, how intense
the situation has gotten.

543
00:50:12,723 --> 00:50:15,463
I don't actually think Pope has killed

544
00:50:15,465 --> 00:50:18,379
a lot of his own people in this way.

545
00:50:18,381 --> 00:50:21,543
I think it's always been, like,
"It's us against the world."

546
00:50:21,546 --> 00:50:24,776
And now that he's put
Leah in a burning room,

547
00:50:24,778 --> 00:50:28,693
just threw one of these people
that she considers, like,

548
00:50:28,695 --> 00:50:32,132
a brother in the fire,
the equation is shifting.

549
00:50:32,134 --> 00:50:34,177
And I think there's a sense of unease.

550
00:50:34,179 --> 00:50:37,702
For Daryl, all of this is
intel that he's taking in

551
00:50:37,704 --> 00:50:40,140
and he's realizing, like,
I've gotta tread very,

552
00:50:40,142 --> 00:50:41,793
very carefully here.

553
00:50:41,795 --> 00:50:43,601
He's in a dangerous situation.

554
00:50:43,604 --> 00:50:45,580
We are the chosen ones!
555
00:50:45,582 --> 00:50:48,148
We run into the battle.

556
00:50:48,150 --> 00:50:51,194
We run into the fire!

557
00:50:51,196 --> 00:50:53,283
Always.

558
00:50:58,419 --> 00:51:08,209
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