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Experiential Telepathy - Class

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Date: 15-Apr-2022
Class: Experiential Telepathy

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Inelia: 00:01 Yay.


Larry: 00:01 Hi, guys.
Inelia: 00:02 Hi.
Larry: 00:04 Welcome--
Inelia: 00:05 To--
Larry: 00:05 --to--
Inelia: 00:05 --another class.
Larry: 00:06 --another class.
Inelia: 00:07 [laughter] we eventually will get our intros sorted out.
Larry: 00:13 I doubt it.
Inelia: 00:13 We promise.
Larry: 00:14 I doubt it.
Inelia: 00:15 Yeah.
Larry: 00:15 We're going to do the right thing in practice.
Inelia: 00:17 We'll practice [laughter]. So yes, experiential telepathy. One of the things that we
need to start with is what is telepathy? There's a lot of documents and stuff that talk
about telepathy as something that the person thinks about something and another
person receives it like words, right, having a conversation. Like instead of being on the
phone, you can have a conversation from mind to mind. So when I was looking at
telepathy-- and I've had the experience of telepathy since I was a very young child. My
brother, sister, and I would communicate telepathically for many, many years. The
last time that I recall communicating in this manner with my brother and sister was
when I was 19 years old. And we were in a room-- well, I'll talk about that story in a
minute, because I just want to make the difference between what is telepathy and
what is experiential telepathy. I coined the term experiential telepathy, because I
could see that people were getting very confused about what it is and how to do it
and have it in your life. And by thinking it's a transfer of words from one mind to
another, that is a kind of a--
Larry: 01:46 It's kind of throttled.
Inelia: 01:48 --throttled and also purposely created illusion to stop you from having it, from using
that muscle.

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Larry: 01:57 Yeah. It kind of presets you for looking for this experiential telepathy in a word that
isn't coming, because that's not how it's experienced.
Inelia: 02:06 Exactly. Yeah.
Larry: 02:07 So you're looking at the wrong direction.
Inelia: 02:09 Yep, yep, like trying to swim in a road, right? You could do all the movements and
everything on the road, but you're not going to get anywhere. But if you get yourself
in the water, you do those moves and you swim.
Larry: 02:22 It'll work.
Inelia: 02:23 It's going to work. So the whole thing, like the story I was about to tell you-- my
brother, sister, and I had experiential telepathy for a very long time until I was like 19.
And the last time I remember it happening was the very last time when we lived
together, not together as in in the same house, but together in the same city. And we
could get together very-- we would get together very often, like three or four times a
week. And then we moved away from each other. Oh yeah, actually, it was later,
because it was when my mom passed away and we got back together at her house to
sort all her things out. And that was the very last time that we used it, because a lot of
the time we were communicating in this experiential level. And my brother was
married at the time with this lady. And she, what we used to say, would think very
loudly. Her transmitters of experience were very, very loud. They had no boundaries,
especially for us who could hear everything. And we were looking at my mother's
jewelry to see-- because she had two daughters. And my brother didn't have any
daughters at the time, but he may one day have daughters. So we were looking at her
jewelry. And traditionally in our families, the daughters get together and we separate
the jewelry among the daughters. So we were looking at these things.
Inelia: 04:11 And then this lady who he was married to, she got a little bit nervous and walked to
the kitchen. And we all looked at each other and we weren't sharing any words, but
we all saw that she had reached over to the jewelry items, dug through them, and
took out two pearl earrings, a really big pearl earrings, and that she wanted those. But
she didn't say anything. She didn't do anything because she wasn't a daughter. She
was a daughter-in-law. So she walked away and we all looked at each other. And I
can't remember who said, "Well, what do you think? Shall we?" And the other ones
says, "Yeah, I don't see why not." Right? And anyways, if my brother has daughters,
they will go to her after. So it's all good. And then we said, "Hey, yeah, sure, you can
have them." And she turned around and says, "You guys, you're always invading my
thoughts. And that was a private thought. I wasn't trying to get those. And it was my
own private thought," and this, this, and this. She got really mad. And we were
laughing and laughing, and says, "We didn't invade nothing. You are the one who
showed us that experience. And we agree you can have them." And she's like, "Are
you sure?" "Yeah, sure." And she'd reached into-- I mean, what it was was never
expressed, even. And she reached and she looked and she got them out and she kept
them. She actually put them on right away.
Inelia: 05:51 So it's an experience. That's why when I was teaching in the Are You a Witch? book,
we have a chapter on telepathy or a section on telepathy and the experiments you
can do or the things that you might have experienced, right? But then I saw a lot of
people were not quite getting it. So that's when I coined the term experiential
telepathy, because that's closer, right?
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Larry: 06:22 Yeah, much more accurate.


Inelia: 06:25 Yeah. And then that sends you to the right location, right? You don't swim in the road.
You swim in the water, that type of energy, which is also an experience. You know
how I'm giving you that experience. So now you remember what's the difference.
"Oh."
Larry: 06:40 It's a little like Michael when he was a whale expressing how the water felt.
Inelia: 06:47 Yes.
Larry: 06:47 In the angel book, right?
Inelia: 06:48 In the angel book. Yeah. Interview with an Angel. That's another book, right? So--
Larry: 06:57 Remember, the NDEs we're reading? All of the communication is--
Inelia: 07:02 Experiential.
Larry: 07:02 --experiential telepathy. Nothing with mouths.
Inelia: 07:04 Yeah. Did you want to share some of those, or?
Larry: 07:07 Well, I thought it was interesting. I've been reading on NDEs. Every now and then
something is interesting, and I'll read a book about it. And the NDE book I was
reading, it was sharing the-- pull out like 20 or 30 experiences out of looking at
10,000. The point of the book was to find where things were similar and maybe where
things were different. But all of them, 100% of them, experience all their
communication experientially. It isn't with words. There's no mouths moving. There's
no asking even questions other than sitting there and being--
Inelia: 07:49 Wondering.
Larry: 07:49 --and wondering, maybe. And then with the wonder comes the communication. And
they're translating their communication. But they all say the same-- it's like, "Nobody
told me that, but I experienced it with them. They shared it, and it felt like the more
natural way that we always communicate." They also always expressed that. It's like,
"This is how we actually communicate."
Inelia: 08:11 Yeah. So NDE is near death experience, in case--
Larry: 08:14 In case you don't know.
Inelia: 08:14 --somebody didn't know. Yeah. So that's a really good point, right, that Larry's just
brought in, that this is the natural communication form for us.
Larry: 08:24 And who is for us? The souls?
Inelia: 08:26 Right. So bodies, our bodies, our souls--
Larry: 08:29 Bodies. Souls.
Inelia: 08:32 --plants, animals, all the collectives in this three-dimensional world communicate
experientially. And that is a good point, because it's like one of the things to realize is
why don't we have it? It's like we mentioned in the [crosstalk]--
Larry: 08:55 If it's our normal, our natural mode, how come we aren't using it often? Or are we?

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Inelia: 08:59 Or subconsciously, we are. But why are we not actively using? So we're going to go
into that later on in the class. So the other experiences that we can look at, right,
would be, for example, in the Are You a Witch? book, we talked about the phone
experiment. And the phone experiment is something that you can do to receive calls
or to-- sometimes you think about somebody you haven't thought of for a very long
time. And a few minutes or seconds later that person calls you, or later in the day that
person calls you. All you had to do was think about them, and then they call you. Or
maybe you thought about them because they were thinking about you to call you,
right? So you can experiment with that and you can try it out. And the basic
experiment is very simple, right? You pick a random person that you know, and then
you think about them. And I'm going to show you how you think about them in a
minute. And then wait for the call, right?
Larry: 10:01 Or the Telegram or the chat or the text or the ping--
Inelia: 10:04 Or the Facebook, or whatever.
Larry: 10:05 --or the post, or the mention.
Inelia: 10:08 Yeah. And sometimes it will just happen naturally that you call them because you
suddenly thought about them and you call them and it's like, "Oh, my God, I was just
thinking about you. I was about to call you." It works with people that you don't often
call or text with or whatever. So the way I figured that one out was that I was in
Ireland. I lived in Ireland in my early 20s. And I didn't have much money. I had three
children, a husband, paid rent and everything else. And I didn't have a lot of money.
And in those days - it was the late 80s - you had to pay when you used your phone,
which was in your house. You had to pay per call, right? So you paid a fee to have the
phone there. But--
Larry: 10:59 And then each call. Yeah.
Inelia: 11:00 Yeah. Each call, you would have to pay for that call and it would [inaudible] minutes.
Larry: 11:06 Yep, I remember that.
Inelia: 11:07 Right? But at one point, you paid for receiving a call, as well. But in Ireland, they
stopped charging you for receiving calls and they just started charging you for dialing.
And I didn't have any money.
Larry: 11:25 Oh, I see how this is going to go.
Inelia: 11:27 Yeah. So what I started doing is when I wanted to talk to one of my friends or
relatives, I would sit down and I would do the process to telepathically connect with
them. And then when they would-- which we are going to go through the process,
right? When they would call me, I would say, "Oh, yeah, I wanted to talk to you about
X, Y, and Z, and this, and this, and the other." And they go, "Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
How are you?" Whatever. So they didn't even know why they were calling. And so
we're going to talk about privacy and free will and all that later on as well. Okay? But
basically, my friends were not asleep. So one of them or two of them picked up on the
fact that every time that they called me, I had something to say or I had an idea that I
wanted to share with them, or--
Larry: 12:29 They picked up that you wanted to talk to them.

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Inelia: 12:32 Yes. They picked up that it was me who wanted to talk to them. So one of them
confronted me with that, right, and said, "I'm getting a little bit suspicious that every
time I call you, you start the conversation and you know exactly what we're going to
talk about. And often I'm also suspicious because I don't have anything to tell you, but
I call you anyway." Right? And so I had to own up. "Yeah. It's just that I don't have any
money, and I need to talk to you." So blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And of course, it
ended. It stopped, right? They didn't feel it was fair that they were paying the bill and
I wanted to talk to them. So that was one of the experiences, right? A couple of those,
and the phone experiment, [it's?] delineated in the Are You a Witch? book. But
basically that's what you do. You follow this protocol that we're going to teach you.
And then you wait. And you wait for that text or whatever. There's a lot of anecdotal
evidence from twins. Everybody heard about the twins communicating with each
other from miles away? We have a twin, at least one twin, here, Ilie. And so you,Ilie,
had-- yeah? Have you had experiences with your sister?
Ilie: 14:00 No.
Inelia: 14:01 Not even a little?
Ilie: 14:04 Not that I can say or think. I mean, we've received this question a lot every time
people hear that we are twins. And neither of us can say that it had happened. So, no.
Inelia: 14:18 Okay. So that's not a good example.
Ilie: 14:21 No, not a good example for this.
Inelia: 14:22 It's good example of the process of atrophy, though, right, the process of why do we
stop it, because it's not just twins who can do this, right? And then there's other
beings that that we can have-- I mean, a lot of people have heard about and we often
talk about in our second hours and the first hours of the podcast about, "Oh, we had a
chat with Gaia and we heard about the human collective. And this is what they want."
Larry: 14:49 Yeah. That communication is experiential telepathy. That's how it's received, right?
And oftentimes the funny thing is when you're formulating the inquiry or even saying
the question, if you wanted to word it out in your head to do it, is the answer and the
question are almost simultaneous. Your question and the answer is coming at the
same time and often in a linear fashion. We expect the answer after. I mean, that
seems logical, right? But when you open yourself up to this process, you'll hear not in
the words, but you'll hear and feel the answer as the question is fully forming. It's
simultaneous type of a thing.
Inelia: 15:39 Yeah. Yeah. And that bridges us really nicely. I'm trying to hurry us up because it's an
hour class, right? And I'm only, like, I think--
Larry: 15:50 Go, go, go--
Inelia: 15:51 --one page in.
Larry: 15:51 --go, go, go, go.
Inelia: 15:52 [laughter] okay, let's go, go, go. I want to get all this information out, right? So it
might be a little bit longer than an hour. I'm apologizing in advance. This bridges us
into how does it happen? How come telepathy, experiential telepathy, happens? And
I was researching earlier on to see nowadays-- because the last time I looked at what
people are saying about how this happens was some years ago. So I wanted to
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refresh, to see did anybody else come up with experiential telepathy? Did anybody
else come up with how it happens in a way that really expresses and explains how
this-- and I found some pages talking about quantum entanglement, which is kind of
cool, and also another page that talked about brainwaves, and another one that just
talked about body language. So quantum entanglement is a beautiful theory, but it
kind of touches a little bit on it, but it doesn't go all the way. Brain waves. I don't
know if-- I mean, now--
Larry: 17:06 That's--
Inelia: 17:06 --we're discovering that thoughts don't even happen in the brain, right? So can we
amplify the frequencies using our brain? Maybe?
Larry: 17:16 Can we translate it? Yeah. Perhaps make words--
Inelia: 17:19 Yeah. Perhaps--
Larry: 17:19 --out of that?
Inelia: 17:20 --we could. Maybe little parts. It's almost like that image of the elephant with
everybody blindfolded and touching the part of the elephant. It's a little bit like that.
Larry: 17:30 Or the common experience that the color that I experience isn't one that I even have
a word for or a way to describe to you. That would be how well.
Inelia: 17:41 And then the body language one. Well, we all have experiences of telepathic
communication from people who are not in the room. So how would we read their
body language, right? It would be hard if they're in the other side of the world, right?
And the answer that I can give you around this-- and you can truth it. Look at it like
everything else, all my classes. You truth everything that I say, right? Truth it. It's
much simpler. We are members of collectives. We are collective, not just a singular
person. We are members of a collective. We're members of the human collective.
We're members of the mammalian collective, our physical body, elemental collective.
We're part of the earth collectives, right? We're part of the universal collectives. We
have minerals and things in our bodies. We're part of those collectives, too. So we are
part of many collectives, and that--
Larry: 18:46 And not on earth beings--
Inelia: 18:48 Yes.
Larry: 18:48 --collectives.
Inelia: 18:49 Universally and ultra-dimensionally, we're part of many different collectives also. So
from that perspective, there's a couple of things that I wanted to talk about regarding
collective consciousness.
Larry: 19:05 Did we skip the phone exercise, how you do that?
Inelia: 19:08 Well, we talked about the phone exercise, but we're going to do the process of it as
the exercise at the end of the class.
Larry: 19:14 Okay--
Inelia: 19:14 Okay?
Larry: 19:15 --it's coming. It's coming.

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Inelia: 19:15 Yeah. It's coming. It's coming. Yeah.


Larry: 19:17 I was just going to try it while we're doing this, see if I get any calls.
Inelia: 19:20 [laughter] well, we have a--
Larry: 19:21 Well, I'll wait.
Inelia: 19:22 --lot of phones that are switched off--
Larry: 19:23 I know. It's going to be interesting--
Inelia: 19:24 --no notifications.
Larry: 19:25 --to see how they get through [laughter].
Inelia: 19:26 [laughter] yeah. So our collective consciousness-- whenever I see a lot of books, films,
media, news items, and whatevers, talk against something, I become very curious
about it, because I know that it's a disempowerment issue. And the collective
consciousness has been demonized by the modern society, media, and whatevers. I
remember specifically when the author of the Star Trek series brought in a collective
consciousness called The Borg. It was instantly demonized by the reaction of the
people who were like [inaudible], right? You will be assimilated. Even the words,
right? You will be assimilated. We kind of, "Ahh." We don't want to be assimilated.
We want to be singular individuals with a powerful, independent life.
Larry: 20:35 A free will to do--
Inelia: 20:36 Free will. Yeah. However, he was gearing up. And it felt like when I watched it-- when
I looked at that collective, I thought, "Wow, that's a powerful collective, man," right?
But if I had aired I want to be assimilated into that collective, it was politically
incorrect and the wrong thing to do or say or even think or feel. And then after he
died, because he wasn't able to develop that idea further, how do you work with this
collective without being assimilated, for example, right? Or why is it that everybody--
if we think about free will that cannot be violated in the universe, how come people
were subjecting themselves to being assimilated? And none of that got explored. And
we didn't know the nature of that collective. Originally, it was one voice that spoke
for all of the people in that collective, for all of the people. But then after he died, The
Borg became a hive, and our idea of a hive, which is the queen bee tells everybody
what to do. And she's the boss, and it's all about her, and everybody else is her
servant or drone. This is the idea we have of a hive, right, which is also incorrect,
actually, but that's what was developed. And then we learned about the hive, Queen
Borg, and all that type of stuff. And it was completely corrupted, but it created a lot of
fear about joining a collective.
Larry: 22:12 Yeah. It's the introduction of collective with power over others.
Inelia: 22:16 Yes. That is a perfect example of a collective based on power over others, which is the
way in which the world is run at the moment. It's not something that you will be
assimilated into. You live in it. You are assimilated into it--
Larry: 22:33 [laughter] too late.
Inelia: 22:34 --right, right now. And part of this class is to disentangle you from it, from that power
of wherever there's collective, and allow you to be a sovereign collective being, which
is very, very different. The energy's different. Your capacity's different. Everything
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about it is different, right? And again, it's like looking back at the hive, the idea that
we are taught about the beehive. And it's like, yeah, the queen bee, blah, blah, blah,
blah. But actually, the queen bee has the same-- there isn't just one because she's the
boss and the most important. There's only one because only one is needed. That's it.
They need like 200 bees that go out and get pollen. So 200 are born. Let's say they
need 10 that can defend the hive. So 10 are born. The hive needs one queen to make
the eggs, so only one is born or matured to adulthood. And then when the hive starts
to split, they double the numbers.
Larry: 23:52 So now there's 2 queens.
Inelia: 23:53 So now there's 2 queens. 200 or--
Larry: 23:56 400.
Inelia: 23:57 400--
Larry: 23:58 400--
Inelia: 23:58 --collectors.
Larry: 23:58 --bees, or whatever.
Inelia: 24:00 Whatever. See, it doubles. And then they split, because it's what they need. That's
what they need, the collective needs. It's not that the queen is the boss and tells
everyone what to do. The hive only needs one queen, period. Do you see how the
energy shifts? Now it's different. Now it changes. So it's part of the-- right?
Larry: 24:32 Right. Because the--
Inelia: 24:32 [crosstalk].
Larry: 24:33 --power of others part of the collective experiential telepathy, when you introduce
the power of others part of it, then that's where it also kind of cuts you off from it.
Inelia: 24:47 Yes.
Larry: 24:48 Because naturally, as we are resistant to power over others. Tell me what to do, and
then I want to do the other. But more like interference with your process of
communication, because you're tuned or trained about power over others.
Inelia: 25:04 Yeah. And because we're in a split right now, and before the split, we're all going to
expand our awareness, I mean, the key and the trick about expansion of awareness is
that your awareness expands to include other people's awareness and viewpoints.
That's how you expand your awareness. What is enlightenment but your ability to tap
into all of awareness in the universe, right? So one of the things that I found, another
one item that the human collective, the modern human collective that wants power
over others, pushes and pushes and pushes is an interest and an absolute desire for
privacy, right? We all want to have private thoughts. And the energy or-- even in the
internet, there's an illusion of privacy. It's my stuff. I don't want to share it with
anyone. And again, you can see it from two perspectives, because there's a one-sided
privacy where we don't know anything about these companies that are collecting all
the data about us, but we can't see what they did in their board of directors or what
their decisions are or how they're using our data. We don't see it at all. We know
nothing about them. However, they know everything about us. They know when we
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using, what conversations we're having, right, when we go to the loo. Everything.
They know everything. With all these watches - I don't know if you've seen them or
you have them - that track how many steps you've done, how many--
Larry: 26:57 Your [inaudible].
Inelia: 26:57 --calories you've burned, how much food you have, what your blood rate is, what
your, whatever, pulse is, and blood pressure. And it collects a lot of data. But the
watch doesn't give us data back about the company, how our information's used,
right? Did you have something to add?
Larry: 27:22 Well, it's an interesting thing because who's collecting the data? What would they
want to know what I'm watching? Then at some point, there's the realization that
they're collecting collective data, not necessarily individual data, but as a collective,
how are things going for our agenda, what our agenda is, whatever it might be? Is it
working? Do I need to turn off the fear knob? Do I need to relax things for a minute?
What's the process? They're walking 75 steps today. Collectively, everyone's been
walking a lot today. They really got a lot on their plate. They're really, really
exercising. So there's information they could receive, right, from a collective.
Everyone's exercising a lot more. That'd be a for example. So the experiential
telepathy thing, we change from having a one-way, right, to it's a two-way
communication.
Inelia: 28:16 Exactly.
Larry: 28:17 We know what is the purpose of and why are we communicating? We're not just you
get from me. It's like we. We are in a collective together. That's not private, I guess.
There's permission, right?
Inelia: 28:35 There is permission. And then it's like the-- as a child, I would have full access to other
people's minds, memories, experience, right? And eventually, I learned how to turn it
down. But before that happened, I could tell you that most people had very, very
basic things. One of them was sex, right? Another one was privacy of going to the
toilet. And another one was, "How does that person or what do those people think
about me?"
Larry: 29:21 "Think about me. What do they think about me?"
Inelia: 29:23 Right? That was about it. That was the main ones. It wasn't very interesting. So a
person's private information about, "Oh, my God. Now this person knows that I like to
be tied up and put a tennis ball in my--" I don't know what those balls are. "In my
mouth and spanked before I can get off on sex or whatever. And now this person
knows about it." Like that's interesting. It wasn't. And it isn't right, right? It's like,
yeah, you brush your teeth every day, or yeah, you like to drive cars.
Larry: 29:59 For you, maybe. But what about other people? Some people might be interested in
that [laughter].
Inelia: 30:03 [laughter] no, I'm talking about those people that have that interest.
Larry: 30:07 [inaudible].
Inelia: 30:09 [inaudible] about it, right? And they thought that was interesting. My sister, she was
really naughty.
Larry: 30:19 Naughty.
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Inelia: 30:19 Naughty. She lives and she worked with the upper echelons of society in Spain. And
often we would go to dinner parties or restaurants together with these very high-level
individuals. And especially there was an organization of women, women in power. So
we had the mayor, maybe the president of blah, blah, the CEO of the whatever bank.
They were really high-level, powerful women. And we had this dinner party in this
beautiful restaurant. You know the type of restaurants when they bring you a really
nice, beautiful art piece plate with a little leaf and a little something else, and it's
$200, that type of restaurant, right?
Larry: 31:13 I've seen pictures of it, yeah.
Inelia: 31:14 [laughter] anyways, we were sitting in a very long table. And I was sitting-- my sister,
she's an artist. So she's like the bell of the ball and the sunshine in the room. And she
was sitting at one end, and there was a whole group of the women, right? And some
of them had their husbands with them. And I was sitting next to my sister. And one of
the-- I think it was a-- what are those judges that work for the government? The
supreme judge?
Larry: 31:49 Yeah. Supreme Court.
Inelia: 31:51 Supreme Court judge was sitting there and she was talking about something with
regards to if only you could see or be a fly on the wall of blah, blah, blah, and this, and
this, and the other, about a case that had happened or a kind of situation that could
happen. And my sister blurbs out, "Oh, well, my sister can read minds. She knows
exactly what all of you are thinking right now," right? I'm like, "Oh, my God." You
know why I said that? Because every time that that happens, everybody's most--
Larry: 32:25 Everybody's mind gets louder.
Inelia: 32:26 --deepest secret, they try to hide it. So all of their focus goes into their secret. And
what happens then is they project it out. And I got all sorts of love affairs and bribes
and a woman who is planning to divorce her husband and he was [inaudible], "Oh, my
God." And the bad feelings they had for each other. And boom, boom, boom, boom.
And--
Larry: 32:54 So do you just look at everything, and with your eyes, go, "Oh."
Inelia: 32:57 No. It's like, "God, no. This is way too much."
Larry: 33:01 You should do that [laughter] next time.
Inelia: 33:03 Anyways, my sister insist, "And she right now knows all about all of your secrets." So I
was like, "Ximena, come on dude! Don't do this to me." And then one in particular
just looked at me. And I think it was this judge woman. And I looked at her and then I
looked away from her. And I said, "It's fine." I said, "There's nothing new," including
those people who like to be tied up and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? "There's
nothing new." And I said, "Yeah, some of you are having affairs or whatever, and
some of you are talking against each other." And some of you this and this. Some of
you that, and whatevers. "It's not interesting. A cue, If you ever have somebody like
that in the room, the last thing you want to think about is your top secret. Think
about something else. Think about the flowers. Go to your happy place, right, in the
room." And boom, boom, boom. All the stories started going away, right? So it's a
little bit like that, the privacy thing. And what do you do with it, and how do you
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them that are very unpleasant. We have very deep, dark workers who want to torture
people or rape people or have power over others, demonized or possessed and all
that other stuff. And again, yawn.
Larry: 34:32 Yeah. It reminds me, again, of the the NDEs, near death experiencers. When they're
experiencing existence and they're more real world, they don't have a judgment
about the things they did or saw any of that stuff. It's like it's a nothing.
Inelia: 34:47 Yeah. Yeah. So how do we get there, right? How did we get to a place where we
subscribed to privacy - we subscribed to power over others - and a place where we
shut it down? We don't want that. We shut it down. Where do we come there? And
it's because of the light dark experience that we wanted to have on the planet.
Larry: 35:14 Yeah. You can't really have it if you don't.
Inelia: 35:17 Yeah. Without the illusion of separation, you literally cannot have a light dark
experience, literally cannot have it. So that immediately turns around. If you want to
have a high frequency experience, it's important for you to start using this muscle.
And connect with each other. Expand your awareness, right? And look at the privacy
aspect. Guess what? If you really want not to share an experience with another
person, you don't, because nothing can happen to you. Nobody can force you without
your willingness. So you might think, "Well, how come all those people-- you saw
everything?" Because they were in fear.
Larry: 36:10 They were afraid.
Inelia: 36:12 Yeah. They were in a fear place. And fear opens the door to the thing you don't want,
right? And when I started telling them how to stop it, it all went away, right? It all
went away, except for the lady who was having an affair, who afterwards came to me
and said, "This is really important that nobody find out about it." I says, "Dude, really?
I'm not going to tell anyone. I'm not going to tell them your name, right, or who
you're sleeping with." Right? I'm not going to-- it's not that. But also, I said-- there was
another energy field there when she expressed that experience, which was, "Should I
[inaudible] husband for this guy?" He would probably destroy her career. But she was
a very powerful woman. And the whole family thing in Europe and Spain in particular
is very important. And so she said, "Yeah, but actually, I wonder if you could give me
some insight about should I leave my husband?" I was like, "No, don't leave him.
Culture in Spain is designed in a way where you can actually have affairs. Just don't
flaunt it." Because I didn't see that that was going to develop in any way positively.
And it felt more like a sabotage thing. But that was separate, right?
Inelia: 37:33 But that accentuates the expansion of awareness. It accentuates why is it so cool if we
do have an item to share with one or more individuals at experiential level, how that
can expand our seeing for us to see clearly and manifest things, right? Good council,
good allies. Remember that one for manifestation? That is part of it. That's why it's
important. And also, yes, you can actually keep your private thoughts private. Imagine
it's like a collective. We don't always want to hear everybody's little thoughts all the
time. It's exhausting.
Larry: 38:16 Right. It's maturing in the process, right? At one point, it doesn't really-- it isn't
anything, whatever you're thinking, is-- yeah, okay, you've got a million thoughts.
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you're thinking about that? Oh, you're thinking about that? Oh, you're thinking about
that?" So with the expansion comes the other, also.
Inelia: 38:39 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So let's review our "why"s-- another part of manifestation is your
why and why not, right? So why do we need to turn this skill on right now?
Larry: 38:52 Because we're in a split. And we're done with light dark. In order to have light dark,
we have to separate and close things off or else we wouldn't be fooled. Not one
second. There wouldn't be nothing to fool, because the communication is clear. And
light beings don't play dark games with other light beings if they're in a light
paradigm.
Inelia: 39:17 Yeah. So as a light being, you might have like a really nasty, bad thought about
another person. But the person feels it, and you feel it. And you go, "That's
interesting. I wonder why I'm having--"
Larry: 39:32 Yeah. What is that?
Inelia: 39:33 --that thought?" What is that? Where does that come from, or why is it happening?
Larry: 39:35 I'm curious about it.
Inelia: 39:36 Yeah. Yeah. And the other one that always comes up is like-- and I remember as a tiny
little child, I was at home and a guy came over to see my mom, right? And this guy
was in love with my mother. But my mother was married to my father, and she was in
love with my father. But she knew that this guy was in love with her, because it was
obvious. Everybody could see it, right? And he comes in. And I'm in the living room.
And I look at the guy and I see everything. And it's like you think, "Well, you're a tiny
little child and you can see all these man's sexual desires for your mother." And I
didn't realize at the time that that wasn't a bad thing, because everybody was having
a lot of thoughts all the time. So it was like, "Oh, yeah, they're brushing their teeth
right now, whatever," right, to me. But the program of that is not something that
wants to be experienced by another person. My mom saw the guy looking at her and
looked at me looking at the guy. And she turned around and says, "Do not look into
that man's mind. Stop it. Do not look there. Do not see it. Do not see it. Just stop,
stop. Do not look into that man's mind." And I'm like, "What? What? What? Where?
What?" Right? "Oh, that's a bad thing. What he's thinking is bad," right? So that was
the program coming in.
Inelia: 41:11 But also when you're aware that you can weave in and out of the experiential
telepathy, you're not doing those type of things. Like my sister-in-law wouldn't be
broadcasting every thought, her experiencing some feelings and emotions and
whatevers, all the time when she was young, because she learned to shut it down a
little. We told her, "Can you turn it down?" And she did, because it was actually
unpleasant, because they're not interesting. What people think about all the time is
not interesting.
Larry: 41:43 It's interesting to them.
Inelia: 41:44 To them, yeah, but not to anybody else. And so, yeah, so turning it down, whatever.
So you would learn how to do this so you wouldn't have to put up with everybody's
tiny little thoughts all the time, or the negative stuff, or the whatevers. But if
something was impinging in your life and you wanted to learn more, you could
communicate with that person at experiential level and open up the floods to an
expanded awareness. So it's very important, in my opinion. So why don't we have it?
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Because it promotes the light dark paradigm, power over others. Power over others
works in the shadows, in secrecy. Light works in clarity, transparency, responsibility,
ability to respond. Okay? So shall we start? Oh, my God. We got 10 minutes to do the
methodology [laughter]. Should we start on the methodology, or did you have more
examples?
Larry: 42:47 I think we're getting it. If they need more examples, I think they should maybe read a
few NDE books to see how the experiential telepathy goes and how much people
there care about the things that they thought were so important here, or the chicken
scratch stuff.
Inelia: 43:08 Yeah. So if you're ready for the methodology, thumbs up. Yeah? Okay.
Larry: 43:17 Pretty much.
Inelia: 43:17 Yeah, pretty much. All right, perfect. Okay. So there's a few steps that you're going to
take in order to develop or to start taking this muscle out of atrophy. Okay? And the
first thing that you're going to do is you're going to address your-- hold on. I have a
really, really good notebook [laughter]. We're going to start by first choosing a target,
right? I'm going to tell you the methodology, and then I'm going to give you some
examples. So the first thing you're going to do is you're going to choose a target. The
second thing you're going to do is to process your fears around communicating
experientially with this target.
Larry: 44:11 So one of the fears that comes to my mind right away is if I look at them, then they're
going to look at me.
Inelia: 44:16 Yeah. So that's a good example of a fear, right? One-way experiential telepathy. Then
the third part that you're going to do is have a look at why you want to communicate
with this target and then why haven't you done it yet? Okay? Then you're going to
look at-- this is number four. The part of the methodology is you're going to generate
the energy of beauty. And this gives you a really good idea of how this all works and
why it's a high frequency thing. You're going to generate that thing or that person or
the animal-- it's beautiful. And it's not just about saying it. You need to work at it until
you actually feel it. When you look at a beautiful sunset and it fills you up with that
energy of, "Woah, it's so beautiful," that's what you're going to generate. Then you're
going to ask your question in an experiential way. And I'm going to give you some
examples of that, too. And then you're going to open yourself to receiving the
information back. And that's going to look like a movie or a experience. So that's the
steps.
Inelia: 45:41 So I thought we could start. I think we should do it in baby steps. So the first target
that I want you to do this following the class is a plant. Okay? You're going to work
with a plant. Your plant can be in a pot inside your house. It could be in the yard. Just
a small plant. This is how you're going to start. Then the second target that you're
going to choose is a tree. So it doesn't matter if it's a small tree or a big tree, but I
want you to work with a tree. After that, I want you to choose a pet or an animal. So if
you don't have any pets, you can use a wild animal like a bird--
Larry: 46:30 Excuse me.
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Larry: 46:40 You blew it. I was going to have them experientially experience what I saw this
morning.
Inelia: 46:47 Yeah, we're going to talk about that.
Larry: 46:48 Okay. Well, you didn't blow it then.
Inelia: 46:50 No [laughter].
Larry: 46:52 You just planted the seed.
Inelia: 46:53 Yeah.
Larry: 46:53 Okay.
Inelia: 46:54 So these are going to-- and then after you do a pet or an animal, then you're going to
do a human, because we're setting ourselves up for success. And we're going to start-
-- that's why we do baby steps, because if you go straight for the human, it's very
likely that you won't have enough practice yet, or your muscle is still very weak, or
that you have firewalls and fears that you haven't dealt with yet.
Larry: 47:24 Yeah. You're probably not too worried what the plant thinks about your secret
thoughts--
Inelia: 47:26 Exactly.
Larry: 47:27 --right? Plants? Come on, what is it going to do to me? It's not going to tell his plant
friends. Plus--
Inelia: 47:34 But you might generate a fear if you're talking to your lettuce plant that you're going
to eat, right?
Larry: 47:39 Yeah. Don't do that. Actually, they're fine with that.
Inelia: 47:43 They are actually, yeah.
Larry: 47:47 Also, when you communicate with humans, you have projections around--
Inelia: 47:50 You do.
Larry: 47:51 --how this communication's going to come back. When you do it with a plant, not so
much, because you're curious. And when you do it with a dog or a whatever, you're
also curious, because you're not in the practice of communicating with them with
your words. But with humans, you are. You have a established pattern of how you
communicate with a human.
Inelia: 48:14 Yeah. And also we're going to talk about the permission aspect of it. Okay? Because
we don't want to push our awareness field into somebody that is unconscious, right,
of it, like the power over others stuff. Okay. So for the small plants, some of the
example of questions you could do after you do the methodology that we're looking
at is things like, "Would you like water? More light? Less light? More soil? Less soil?
More nutrients? Less nutrients?" These are the type of things. But how do you ask,
"Would you like water?" You don't say, "Would you like water?", in words, because
they don't speak English. Okay? So what you do is you imagine as you're looking at
the plant and you've generated a feeling of beauty-- and you feel the beauty back.
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Larry: 49:19 Yeah. I imagine it's raining, and that plant is in the rain. It's like, "Do you want to be
rained on?" Kind of a rain. And I get received it wants to be under a tree instead of
out in the rain. It's like, "Nope, I'm good."
Inelia: 49:34 Yeah, exactly. Do you see the pattern there? It's like experiential. For trees, some of
the examples could be, "What do you see right now?" It's like you could imagine
yourself being a tree, and what is around you? Because it's difficult to speak tree,
right? It's difficult to speak tree. But then you work it out, right, because it's about
experience. What we have to watch out - and Larry already mentioned it - is
projection. We often had preconceived ideas and projections on people, on plants,
right? It's like, "Yeah, the plant wants water." But here, actually the plant said, "No.
Actually, I have too much water. Less water, please." Right? So projection. "Oh, I'm
connecting with Gaia. Oh, well, Gaia's been raped and she's sad and helpless." It's a
projection. It's not really true or real in any way or form. So then we're going to need
to go into truthing the information.
Larry: 50:34 Yeah. Yeah. One of the tricks apparently we learned with Russel Targ was a surprise.
Inelia: 50:40 So that's the thing. Let's go back to the methodology. Okay? Where did I write that
[inaudible]? I don't want to miss any of the steps. That's why I wrote them down.
Okay. So the first thing you do is you choose a target, right? And this is when you're
experiencing, but be open to have that experience spontaneously, also. So you make
the statement, "I want to have this experience in a spontaneous way, and I want to
recognize it." So Larry had an excellent experience of it this morning.
Larry: 51:15 Yeah. Well--
Inelia: 51:15 You want to share?
Larry: 51:15 --Tiny, our dog, is an Anatolian Shephard, of course - well, not of course, but he is -
which is a livestock guardian type breed. And one of the caveats if you ever get one is
you better like dogs that bark, because their job is bark. So he barks all the time. But
when he barks, some of the times you got to look at and some of the times you don't
got to. And I'm kind of like-- we have people in the house, and they're not tapped into
Tiny the same way that I am, or Lucy, or the other animals. And so they'll bark and it'll
be, "Hey, attention. You need to come look, because something's happening, like a
chicken's getting attacked by a dog or there's something in the backyard," right? And I
know I better go. But they're barked all day long and you don't have to go every time.
So experientially this morning, I heard barking, which is every day, all day, often. Not
annoyingly, but it's like data is coming in, like a baby's crying. Probably the same like
that with mothers. When your baby's crying, some of them just know, "Hey, that's
what it is." It's not that the cry was different. It's just--
Inelia: 52:28 Oh, it is. It is different. But that's a good point there, because the cries are different.
And the barks sound different.
Larry: 52:34 Well, they are different. They are different.
Inelia: 52:36 But his bark of, "Have a look over here. That chicken is eating my bone," is the exact
same as his experience of, "There's something interesting happening here different,"
right? It's the same. "Come over here and look at this." But sometimes, the variety of-
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Larry: 53:02 Yeah, I don't need to come deal with that.


Inelia: 53:04 Yeah. I don't want to look at that. But then the other part of the experiential part is
like you said, it's interesting. And then suddenly you feel, "This is interesting."
Larry: 53:15 I'm drawn.
Inelia: 53:16 Same bark. Exactly same bark, or the baby, the same cry. But one of them is
interesting, but the other one isn't. So that's part of it, right?
Larry: 53:25 Right, exactly.
Inelia: 53:26 So what happened?
Larry: 53:27 Well, I got, "It's very interesting, the field. I got to go look in the field. It's very
interesting. What's going on over there?" And I ran over and I opened the shades. And
there's a whole herd of elk back there bouncing around, jumping and playing with
each other, standing on their back legs and play fighting, and bucking like horses, and-
-
Inelia: 53:47 Having a great time.
Larry: 53:47 --having a blast, right? They were having a blast. I had that excitement energy of it's--
good morning. Let's warm up, walk around. It's time to go over to the river, get a
drink of water or something. So it was like the whole area is experiential, was a draw
in. "Good morning, and go look." Because you usually have your routine in the
morning. You get up and do this and do this and do this and do that. This morning, a
completely off that routine message was received. And it was a really nice
connection. The connection was like, wow, what a brilliant way to start the morning, a
herd of elk playing with each other in the field, and Tiny waking us up for the, "Hey,
go look, go look, go look." And he was telling Lucy the same thing. And Lucy, she
comes out every now and then, but she's happy way over there. And she was like,
brrrrhhhh. "Got to come look, too." Yeah. That was good.
Inelia: 54:43 Yeah. So that's really important point there. The bark is the same, right?
Larry: 54:49 Or the cry is--
Inelia: 54:50 Or the cry is the same for that type of situation. But for Tiny, that a chicken is eating
his bone is just as important than a bunch of elks in the field, just as important. It's
the same bark. Just as important and tragic or whatever it might be. And for Lucy,
she'll run to see it, right? "It's a chicken eating our bone, right, or it's an elk--
Larry: 55:20 That's important for--
Inelia: 55:20 --in the field?"
Larry: 55:20 --Lucy.
Inelia: 55:21 Exactly. Right? But how do we know? It was the same bark? So how come for Larry it
was "Wait, this is actually interesting." Because we're in a field of consciousness. And
even though it might be super subconscious right now, we can tap into-- we can grab
those bits that are interesting. So that's going to be part of the methodology. Okay?
So you choose your target. Okay? Let's pretend that our target is a plant right now. A
plant. Okay. And then we have any fears, right? "Am I going to damage this plant by
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shut it up?" We can make up, right, whatever fears we might have around this plant.
And then, "Why do I want to connect with this plant? Well, I want to practice
experiential telepathy, and I want an ally, so I'm going to request." It's like, "Plant, is it
okay if we practice experiential telepathy?" And you'll do it, because if you don't feel
anything, you go ahead and do it, right? And you might actually get immediately a yes
or a no on that one. But you also express that in an experiential way. You might say it
in words, but you have feelings around it. You have imagery around it. And that's
what the plant is actually feeling. If we get a go, let's do this, from yourself already
processed your fears, and you're ready, and you feel resonant that the plant's going
to work with you on this, then you start looking at this plant and generating, "You're
beautiful. You're beautiful. You're beautiful. You're beautiful. You're so beautiful,"
until you actually feel, "Oh, my God, that's most beautiful plant on the planet. Look at
his little leaves. Look at this little corner right here."
Inelia: 57:21 And it's like, boom, you're in. And then you generate the question. Rain coming down.
Yes, no. Light hitting it. Yes, no. Like that. And then you can get images back. "Right
now a little bit of shelter, please." Sunshine? "Ahh, it's burning, burning, burning."
You see, feel, or whatevers. And you interpret that as you're getting burnt, right? And
then that part of it, there's a key there that they're interesting, right? So just like
when this morning, Larry heard the same bark, but suddenly it was interesting, right?
And the interesting and the other word that we were using is-- what was it?
Remember there's two words that we can generate to get that communication going.
Larry: 58:17 Well, there's interesting and there's--
Inelia: 58:20 Surprising.
Larry: 58:20 --the surprise.
Inelia: 58:21 Yes. It's a surprising--
Larry: 58:23 If you look for a surprise - surprise me - then sometimes you'll be able to look in the
right spot.
Inelia: 58:28 Yeah. So if you want to communicate with the plant, it's like, "Okay, so if the plant
wanted to surprise me, what would it be saying right now?"
Larry: 58:40 What's the first thing that comes to mind?
Inelia: 58:41 What's the first thing that comes--
Larry: 58:42 Surprise yourself--
Inelia: 58:42 --into your field.
Larry: 58:43 --with what comes to mind. I think that was the guidance.
Inelia: 58:46 And then interesting. If the plant was experiencing something really interesting right
now, what would that be? What would that look like or feel like?
Larry: 58:55 Right. There's a lot of steps and a lot of focus and a lot of generating love and all these
other things in order to start the communication process, because it's atrophied. It's
not that you have to do this in order to communicate. This is a way to de-atrophy it,
to start the exercise, to make it focused and intentional. So you can have some
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Inelia: 59:22 Yes. We've gone over our hour. Let me see. And with humans, of course, the firewalls
and fears are going to be majorly bigger. And you can set up parameters of, "Okay. I
want to experientially telepathy with this person around a certain topic only." For
example, that might be a good parameter or boundary that you could set up so that
you can start using the muscle. Okay? With pets, it's very interesting because our
animals, they're very easy. They're a very good next step. The tree can be-- it's, to me,
more interesting than a plant. But not to say the plant isn't interesting. We get
different energies from these things. Part of the difference between a plant and a tree
is the trees lives longer, generally speaking, and has deeper roots or is connected to
other things. So those are generating interesting, right?
Inelia: 01:00:26 With pets, I have a story with my sister. She had this pet dog, a girl dog. And she
would often sit to have her breakfast. And my sister would have a slice of toast, a cup
of tea, and what they call it in Spain, English Ham, right, on her toast. So butter,
English ham, her tea. And this was her breakfast. But very, very often-- and she would
start thinking about the day, planning her art - she's an artist - her sketch. So she
would be in the zone, in a different zone. And as soon as she was-- I would watch it
because I lived with her for over a year. So I would watch her do this routine, right?
And very often while she went into that zone, that interesting zone, her pet dog, who
was always laying underneath her chair, would look up like this. There's no way my
sister could perceive it, because the dog was under the chair. And my sister would
grab a bit of her ham [inaudible] the chair, right? Or would go start thinking, get up,
go into the fridge, grab some ham, and give it to the dog. And the dog would stop
looking at her [inaudible]. And she would sit down. And then a few minutes later, she
would look up again, and the whole process would start again.
Inelia: 01:01:53 And at one point, I started laughing my head off. And she came out of the zone and
saw herself going with the ham into the dog's mouth. And she said, "That bloody dog.
She's always tricking me. I don't know how she does it. She's manipulating my mind,
man. She's controlling my mind. She's doing this. She's always doing this. It's my
ham." So that was an excellent example of the communication going the other way of
a pet communicating with a human. And what place was that human so that could
happen, right? They were in the zone. They were open. They were exploring beauty
themselves. So that's an important one about pets, as well.
Inelia: 01:02:41 So let's review the methodology. Okay? So you choose your target. You process any
fears you might have around that target and that communication. You do the why
and why not. You do your process your programs and your fears. And if it's a human
person or even another creature, you have strong parameters around the
communication to begin with, like as a starting point. As humans, you can have a
buddy, right, or a friend that you do it consciously with. And then be open to receiving
the experience. And you can do it by generating what is interesting about this or what
would be surprising about this. And that's it. That's the methodology. I hope you try it
out. We gave lots of information. I think we've covered everything. Let me just go
over our notes to make sure we did.
Inelia: 01:03:54 With the pet, the example questions could be depending on that pet or the animal,
right? "What are you seeing right now? What are you experiencing right now? Are
you hungry? Are you thirsty? Do you want to go for a walk?" All sorts of things, right?
One of my dogs, I would even think, "Leash." I would imagine myself grabbing her
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imagine myself going to the front door and grabbing the leash, and she would go,
"Ahh," like that, to the door and back again. So these things work. The--
Larry: 01:04:37 Yeah. It might be fun to start the human experience one with someone that you want
to give you a call.
Inelia: 01:04:43 Yeah. Yeah.
Larry: 01:04:44 Try that with these steps.
Inelia: 01:04:45 Yeah. Try that. Yeah. Try that with the steps.
Larry: 01:04:47 Open the communication.
Inelia: 01:04:48 Or text you or something.
Larry: 01:04:50 "Text me," or something, and see if you start to get some results.
Inelia: 01:04:54 Yeah. Yeah. All right, perfect. Any questions?
Ilie: 01:05:00 So before we go to questions, you mentioned that you're going to talk about free will.
And I think it was--
Inelia: 01:05:05 Oh, yeah.
Ilie: 01:05:06 Yeah.
Inelia: 01:05:06 Thank you for the reminder. Yes, free will. So nothing can happen to you without your
agreement, period. Okay? Now that agreement can happen in a subconscious way or
through a program, right? So you are X, Y, Z, and therefore, this is the type of
experiences you're going to have. Or you're running a fear program, and the fear, like
we talked about within the dinner party, will open the door to be seen, right? The
stuff will be seen. Sometimes when you do the experiential telepathy, especially with
a person, you might start tapping into their negative stuff, or their fears, or their
sexual desires, or that they need to go potty, or whatever. It's not interesting to you
necessarily, but it is to them. And then you can just dismiss it, dismiss that part. "No,
that's not interesting." And that's the parameters, the boundaries of your
communication. You dismiss it. It's not interesting. Boom. Oh, we'll deal with that
later, kind of thing.
Inelia: 01:06:23 The other part is, "Oh, okay, so I'm in love with some actor or actress, and I want to
have experiential telepathy with them," right? And you do all the things to make sure
that this person receives you. Are you violating free will if you have a true and real
communication with them? At some point in the process, that person, either
consciously or subconsciously, has programs to let you in, right? But some often, you
will get a, "No, no, no, no." If you get a no, stop. Okay? Don't try and push it in. Often I
found that people think they're doing it, but they're having a great daydream. But
they're not actually communicating with that being.
Larry: 01:07:26 In the case of actors, it would happen probably more often, because you're trying to
connect with the role the actor plays, not the actual actor. And the actual actor's--
Inelia: 01:07:39 It's a very different--
Larry: 01:07:39 --[a?] very different person. Guaranteed probably in a completely different reality
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Inelia: 01:07:45 Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then you might think, "Well, what if other people are impinging
on my free will and trying to communicate with me?" And that's with part of
frequency. You can make a blanket statement. "I'm only interested in experiential
telepathy coming towards me from people of my highest frequency or above." That
guarantees that the communication, if it comes, is going to be interesting. If you
perceive or sense or feel that somebody is impinging in your attention field, be aware
that you're not a victim. You're running a program that allows that person to come in.
So look for that program, process it, and it's gone. They can't come in.
Larry: 01:08:37 If you don't want them to.
Inelia: 01:08:38 Right. But sometimes you don't want to. But because you're afraid, or this, or
whatever, or they're triggering, coming in through another part, righteousness or
anger or jealousy or whatever-- if they're impinging in your field, it's because you
have an open door. It's not necessarily that you want them there.
Larry: 01:08:55 Yep.
Ilie: 01:09:00 So a specific question related to clarification on free will. In your example that you
gave in Ireland when you would imagine the people called you, was that an invitation
for them to call, that they would perceive, or is it a command for them to call that
they would obey? There's a difference.
Inelia: 01:09:23 There's a difference, right?
Larry: 01:09:24 Yeah, there's a difference. Yeah.
Inelia: 01:09:24 And commands can work, but they only work with individuals who do or have worn a
uniform in the past, are asleep, and are used to receiving commands and carrying
them out. That's the type of individuals that you can project a command to.
Larry: 01:09:49 In other words, they have a predisposition for that.
Inelia: 01:09:51 They have an open door for that. Yeah, predisposition for that. With an awakened
individual, impossible. You can command them all you want. It's not going to happen
unless they think it's a good idea or funny or fun or great. They like it. With my
friends, what was happening is-- how come I was able to do it? They're my friends.
We have an open field of connectivity there, of love and friendship, interesting. It's
open already. We're open to each other's communication. We're open to making
phone calls to each other. So yeah, I would connect with them. "Oh, I love you. You're
so beautiful." This, this, and the other, right? And then I would imagine them picking
up the phone, thinking about me, and dialing, right? And then I could hear myself
saying, "Hi," on the other end of the phone, right? So the whole process was there
and there was no fears or whatevers, right? But when they copped on-- one of them
copped on. Two of them copped on. They talked about it and then one of them asked
me. And I said, "Yes." They got mad at me, so they shut the door. So it didn't matter
how beautiful I thought they were or how much interesting things I had to say. It
didn't matter, because they had shut that door. "You will not do this. You have to pay
for your own phone calls," right? So that's part of the free will aspect of it.

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