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Strauss Neil - The Annihilation Method Volume 1
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Eey, I thought lal make a recomnendat ion for one of the most ancient PU
guides: anyone ever read Che Art of, War by sutr Tzu in respecc to ss?
If you thin]. about ir, its totaLly work6 as a big adalogy f,or
strategizing a seduction.
For Exanple, he advise6, before going to !ua!, assess "moral influence
(eg, values), wealher (i6 the environmenE favotable to aarging?),
kind of HB ale you dealing irith) , comnand, and then
doctrine. "
opelatj.ons,'
anotlynou€ aakej
StyTa |'titaq
lilhat doe6 it mean when a HB yourre with eaLs garLic/onion tt4)e food
when she's with you- -that 6he's rot elpecting to go back !o your place
lhat night and that you're going tso have tso work halder Eo get her
work nightB: so many perfect nlghtB have been folled by the facc !ha!,
eved though she's ready and kino-ing like crazy, ita 2 or 3 a.m. and
ehe has co be up for lrork at 7 a.m. the nexts day. Any strategy/patlern
hele for lrylng Co convince a lIB to not' wolry abouL the fact that it's
gtyle reepo',dg t
$t thLs work lhtng ls {here I ke.p havlng lhe problem. r thlnli you
lav. the !lgh! aruver her€ bu! I need a llllle nore help. I Jusl go!
he, tl's a sunday nlsh!, and t'm comlng !!om whal woutrd have been a
11t!1e led &€ss naklng eye conlac! lhe whole rlne. guggeseed vre
e 1,ror& ltght away and, afler I bounced l}rem back ar her, sbe
Dclleclly !o lnlplovige some pallerns. we leave rhe bar and she \ralks
s€ back !o her house. ghe says 6be,s tlred. But lben she opens che
aloor and ilalk€ upseatrs, and I fotloir. Then sh€ runs inlo roonunales,
and we Ealk lo them. Sbe says she's ttred agaln and bas !o sleep lor
oork. nhat I sbould have done vas elther cu! the nlgbt shorr muctr
Eubject! Re! gS
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A1Bo, aE for the initial conunent that started this whole thlead, you
coufd see SS aa a way of, f,ucking and leavlng as many women aa
posEi.b1e. But fo! eome people Itve talked to here, if Chey fLnd the
tlght woman, they're golng t'o keep her. SS is just increaglng tsheir
chanceB of findtng the righ! woman, atrd not jueh set!]ing. (And maybe
gtyla wrlaa'
Th16 i6 nhele SS fall.B for me! the party girl? the fuckeil-u!, ltB 60
just want8 to have a good time atrd !ri]I end up in bed with lhe guy
showa her on6. She doesnrt want to sneak off in Bome corne! nith a Pul
who trill lalk Ehe e$eet words. She wants to be grabbed and Caken on an
adventure that e6calate8 the fun and mayhem. I of,ten ge! approached by
thege gir]s, because I'm seen with other ItBs. BuE if I open my mouth and
Anyone have any good advice oll landing party girls? There have to be
good routines- - tshey' d have to be phygical ores--tha! carl be sinply
done to show that you can give then tshe adventsure they crave thats
night. Does anyone e16e have problems in this area, with the "lrild atrd
crazyl IlBs ?
Aaonytuous add'
gubject: R6. Party Glrls
sA1Bo, I \danled to add.how does one get iato that staee of becoming the
ao-cal1ed life-of t'he pa!ty?"
Style rapTlcE t
go there are two way6 t'o get .m answer !o thiBr maybe mirroring Eheir
16 a good Etsaft, and then coming up with a really quLck, kino
your nindl I love thats! But I bee you nould never 'bite thats 9ir1's
aas/ge! that gi.ry to buy you a drinh/whatever ' n And tshen maybe slorly
That,s just an ldea: I'm thiDking out loud. If soneone has a good
idea, I'd be up for tlying its and reporting back.
Af6o, one other line of thinking: V{hat. does a party girl really want?
Vlhat is her ENDS VATUE? She is inEecure, and badly
vaLidatsion. Eow can we become that. source of social validation for
her?
Any thoughtg?
StyTa wrlgea
1. TtIe loglc of ending a good hihe early to keep her wanling @re co
Boneelme€ backflreg when the HB was actually caugh! up in the
Itra hald !o know Bomet'lmee whether Co cLose ea!]y, or !o pusb lt.
6uggeEtsions?
2. Begidea the optlon of naking a second plan on the spot (wbich can
Bound de6perale 1f you keep mentsioning lt Co her on the phone to get
her to hang ou! nith you again) , I would suggest doing a tsakeaway if
l.ou,re worried a HB will Io€e interegt af,te! the spe1l of the nlght is
broken. IrIn noE a fan of lhe nickname-tease, but you could alo Ehat. I
prefe! leaviag a story or pattern dangling. For example. as you #close
or rcloae, te11 her you have 6one great advice that woutd help her
real-ize whatever dream Bhets confideal to you that nights, and you'tl
tell her uext tine you get logether.
:le wdtag
came up with two great lhing6 last night. The firsh was re:
aelgy drinke. The Becond: a good boyfriend ki1]er. BuC, ln the end, I
fucked
I met HB9 in a bookEtore. She hag a boyfriend she's very, very gerious
about. But' Euddenly they startsed having major plobleng, and 6he called
add said ahe waB upEet. We went ou! to !a]k about lt. In a previous
thlead, someone had EuggeBted a good pattern abou! people needing
firltiple partner8 to really erq)elience nhat more lhan one pergon can
give. But I had the feeltng thal Ehe waB loo traditional to change her
,bole belief ayaten becauae of a Eingle pattern. So, afEet othet
BF-Eupportlng (then degtfoying) tacEicg, I cane up with this:
Se! E:veryone te1ls me tha! we should breah up. I don,t know, though.
Ee 6ay6 thet he thinkE tbaE everyone ha6 Eeveral people who are rlght
for tshen, buE I don'ts believe thet. I believe tha! there 1s JuEt one
person you'le faled to be wlth. And whaE if iE,B him?
l.G: BUC faEe lrork€ ilr gtrange way8. Thlnk about its. Maybe you neeal to
nake i! through tshlE lelatlonablp and out the o!he! Elde In otder tso
find the real pel8on I'ou' !e suppo8ed lo be wiEh. ME, I know tshat fate
never worka hon you expect i! to, You may think you,re fated to be with
tbi6 guy, but f,rom whal you,re teLling lne you don,t 6ound very happy.
Maybe you just need to learn a leEson fron tshiB relationship, 60 that
you can tben uae it !o find the perEon who faEe really want6 you to be
with. ETC, ETC (of course, anchoring thi6 to nyself wj.th gestsures tshe
whole time)
So \re hang out for a white, tbelr head back to my house. She ca116 her
BF and telle him shetl be ower in 15 minutes. That's bad, but I wa'rlteal
you driflk
an energy drink (or a 1ot of caffelne) , then your heart starts facing
and you feel exclted. And 1f I could anchor tshoee feellnga ahe was
having ho myself, then Bhe \toufd feel that I !,tae maklng her excitsed.
Notr, all good. RighE? But thi.s iB lrhere I fuck up. InEtead of pressing
don't nove in. (The fact tbaE I've meL he! boyfllend before
dldn't help elther.) Thls 1s !,rhat I wae thlrtrlng I She's been €hressed
out alout being 1a!e to he! BFE and having hln nad at her, but she'6
already said 100 tlmeB ho\t I'm so mrch mole fun and exciting to b€
lrlth. I figure ghe's going to go Ehere, flght wicb hln the whole t
and thlnk abou! ho!,, nuch more fun I an !o be with. So I can try to
her to 6pend the nlght next time, vthen she's not Etre66ed ouE about
So tha queBtlon i€: l{a€ tba! AFc thinking? was I JuBt fooling nyself
done? )
(Fol1ow up: ehe call.ed tne first thing the next norning gaying Ehe
would like tso hatrg out before she has to go Eo her boyfriend'g
Ard, mole importantly, any tboughtE on Red BuIl vs. Alcohol? Anyone
else lrant to Ery thi.s and report back?
Style vtlEee
Right, so how a.bout making it: I'thoEe who LOOK hungry donrt geL fed.
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Irve been thlnking ebout thia too. I,ve suf,fered a few timeB lhis r,reek
flon trying too hard, giving her too much attentlon, etc. So I am
thinklng of llying to ahlfts lhe melhod a lltLte Eo nake the HB
inlliate the rcloEe more.
So lngtsead of thlnking "the hungty donit ge! fed,n what do you think
of laying on all the EV, pattsernE, and kino, bue at the €ame time,
letting her knolr that I'm completely unavailable and she is cornpletely
not my type phy8icalLy, Ia thla ln keeping with ASF philosophy, o! tE
lt golng too far?
Irve been thirdrlng Ehls because, \dhenever I reall-y wan! Eo get awey
fron an obsCac1e, lt 6eens tshat Ehe more I resisE, the more aggressive
ahe
Style eEltag
subject: Re: shere with her fauily" '
in a te€tautant' and
This happened to me the obher atay. I !'as eating
HB8,5 came ifl ltitsh her mother and auJrt ' r flgure you approac[
this
this like you woulal a IIB hanging out wlth two ob6tsac1es' Approach the
bu! you try to make lhe EB intrigued ln wha! yourle saying' then'
firgE,
once the frlenals/pareots are comfortable witsh you, you tsry co isolatse
tshe ItB lthlle st1tl being friendly to their parente/ friendB '
healal Ehat they !,re!e gPeaking wilh an English accent So I !o1d the
rnon that Bhe had come to the tlghE place, and talked abou! the
?eEtaulan! f,or a 11!t1e while. l'lhen the mon and aunt flent !o order
tooal, I talkeil !,rith Ehe daughEer, who was 20' In additlon !o eliciting
ryouEhr'). the secreE may be to earn lhe palents'E ErusE and show t}'em
teeny bit rebelliouB unaler their parents noses? a'rld noE make her feel
SEyle wri-eeE
Thia brlnga up another queBtion I,ve had. I,m not an Asian fetlshist
type guy, buC I have spent a lot of tlme iD Asia and can Bpeak a few
Aslan languageE. A fen years ago, i! used tso be cool if you knev,
sohething about an A6ian 91rI in America,s language and cutture. Now,
I \rorly !hat' r/'rheaf speak lhelr Language to them o! nentj-on gooal
directora/wrlterg/celabritieB fron Ehelr count.ry, they get scateat
becauEe I SEEM Like an ABian fetsishist. who,s fearneat thi6 stuf,f juEt.
to seduce AeiaD ronen (not truel). So Ehe que6Lion iE: With ABiax
girla in Anerica or Asian Aherican girtE. i6 it betler to sho!, ott
your wide-raEging knorledge of their culture in rhe earty sCages of a
PU or to pretend total ignoratrce? My worry is Ehat, righc now, Aslan
girls are ultra-sen6ltsive to gnryE r{ho tshey think nights be into them
justs because they're AEian and not because of who they are as
individuals.
SEyIe wtite€,
I need Eome advi.ce. I'm willing Eo try every tacLlc suggeated, and poat
RAFC+. BUE now I'm In lhe BaIkanB €rnd I'n an A!'C ah best. The probLem
i6 thlE! I have never ever Been more beauLiful HB96, 10e, and 10+B
{and total AFC gtryB) aq'nhere before. But the problem is Lhat nos! of
of askiag, aDo you speak EngllEh?" llhen Ehe aDswer is yes, r can have
vlhen the anslrer lE rnou o! 'a li!t]e," I'm juet lef! In the dalk aad
who iE Eolal.ly f,Luents. But he ia auch an AFC thal A) when I ask hio
!rha! !o do, he just €aYE to say iMe buy ilri.nktr--and !he!e'a no lray Ir!
dolng that and B) vihen I a€k him to translale, he chickenB out and
either won't Eay what I tell. hi.n to or gets scared and runB away, On
lop of !hat, he leer6 at noat IIBE 1n any roon, which nakea natstele
woree. I've been a great wllgmen, Bending IIBg to him whenever they aay
So, clearly, at cluba and cafes, I need to 6arge ao1o. But anyone have
any Euggeetions on !rba! to do? I'm totally at a Los6, a$d going out of
my mind, . .
(c|!re thing I'm thinl(itrg is that through SS I've learned to sarge with
lords; how carl I do it ririth few or lro words here, esp in a country
ebere tshe girls KNOW they,re hot add are mostly tsrolling for
buEbands? )
Seyle vrites
subj6ct. Rer perfonance alxLety
This is an intereatLng thread. I've found that, lrhi1e asf tactics have
worked amazing $onders fo! me, theytve hurt a llttle too. For some
reaEon, every now and then, Juat' afte! I meet a chick (eEpecially a
quleter one \rho,a waltslng for me to get the pace of the convo) , I'11
A1Bo, Capltol, here'B Bomethlng to thlnh about: You are onty as good
aa you! self-esleem. You need t'o fi.nd a way tso raise your sel,f-esteem
wa[t yourE. A1so, start small: try the Svengali challenge (going out,
tenlatively anal get what you er.pecc. Erq)ect Euccess, and you'I1 be
gtyL. wrLEca
Eu.bjeet ! Taetlcs Ibat ttorked
back lnto AgF gea? at a party laEt nlghl. I tried sone tactica
l-ittle ro1ler outflt€. lnd its ltad anazing, becau6e lE naa so €aay
on tbe daDce f,loo!. 3ny\day6, here are EtsolieB of llrlee *closes and one
ob6ervatloE!
her. She waE memorable becauge Bhe wag aetractive, but Eomething really
looked plastic surgery a.bout her face. so Ehe opening ltas easy
(uweren't you in the :llQtx bar the other ni.ghtt'). Anyway, after fluff
tsalk anal palterns, I suggested we 6pend sone time tsogetshe! aince lte
rlsule,
seen to always enal up at' the sane places anyluay. so she Eaid,
give me !.our nuiber. r lxstead of u6ilxg one of the lines I've Learned
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T A r v r AIzN G L Y . I ju6t said, ,'Okay." gh. grabbed a club flyer and gave ir
-i -.ve her one nall. Ther T borrowed rar
and then handed her the pen. She of course wrole down her number and
Fmr I ThF n.rri haYA ic inctse:,-l . ...-. , -..rng me
her number, I jusl pul her in the posilion of being OBLIGATEDto give
me her n-srber. If she has lhe p.pel and pen rn her hancl, uhdL e.se r.s
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I 2. # close 2: This one is where ASF really paid off. I got a ride home
t wlth
.nLlodlced
HBEnergy, a rorally
leIL
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pretly
cute parEy grrL A muEuat friend
of
I kino on lhe skaling rink. When she dropped me off, I asked for ber
T number.
Then I
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She said,
funny,
something
I never
"cive
I never
me your
giwe girls
nunber. I never
my number either,,,
give guys my numicer.,,
ASF. I
and walked
said,
off.
The next day I wondered if I,d been totally rude. But rudeness worked.
Itls the girl lrho's no! going to giwe you her phone number. I lrae
yesterday because it's just a natural reaction when guys in lhe pas!
hawe asked me for my nunber. Bul thinking about it, lt was rude, and
yourre good and I kno\,r yourre not being creepy and have some ulterior
I molive...If I came off bitchy, t.hat,s not what I wanred ro do. r had a
Iot of fun and I'm callrng to gave you my nunicer, if you still rant
goEta call him.' lL's been on my mino a.l day., AI]d rhen she qave me
her home phone AND cell phone. (She must have gotten my numbei fron
our nutual friend.) so, chalk one up for AsF, because l know rhat if I
had jusl given her my number like an AFc, she NEVERwould hawe ca]led.
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3. Cloee #3: I collided (accidentatly, really) into a tsotatty cutse
HBscralrny on the rirk. In tha! momenE, though. I made sure our eyes
net. and I sniled. and she returned the gaze and 6mile. later. $hen I
6aw her off the rink, I apologized, and lre tatked, and I ran a 6ort of
neant-to-be pattern on the spo!, saying that naybe this wasrir! an
accident, tha! maybe we were throlrn together ln this unusuat way by
fate, didn,t she sort of feel a tingle of energy lun through her boaty
lrhen our ey6s met' (and then I off,set lhe cheesine3s vrihh a joke tshat
naybe that lingle of, enerlfy was just pain flon the head-on colti6ao[],
and finally suggeBted r{e get together some tine and see if it was
rneant to be. Thia naB my corniest #cloEe, and I only Lhink lt wolked
becau6e Ehe !ea6 aceually intereeted jn me already (after we ctaehed, I
notlced tbat she kepC looking over at ne) .
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t Seeing HBPlascic l'-1 ieL you knou uhaE happens. In Ehe
I : f--l^u ,h r.- Lhe o.sos(e. fi-e.
I went out with HBscrauny last night, and r,,e had an amazing time
EverjLh.ng went per recr. l'le started out the night talk:ng drd dr rking
at my house, and I did a lor of listening to what was rrong wilh her
lasl boyfriend and what she wanledr and then reflected wha! she wanted
back to her. Then, we wenl oul lo a local bar and I proved myself !o
be a fun alpha guy (vhich I usually am not) . al lhe jukebox, there was
a crazy hippie girl there. we talked her into pulting our favorite
songs on lhe jukebox, and lhen danced with her. rhe hipple glrl was
super physical, and kept giving me the doggie dinner bowl look and
holding my hands. And because I was gelting all this atrention (and
siving me the look. I molioned for her to join us, and she drd. Now, I
don,t kno\r if this 1,]asright, buL I kepl rny allenlion on HBscrauny a1I
nrohr and drdn'E go for closeg w-Lh any oJ Lne oLhe. 9_rLs leven
seem like a 6cumbag--jusE a guy who likes to have a good time. Was
lhis right?
Arlnvay, lhe bar closes and I bring HBscrasny back to my house for
anolher drink. Now, as I said at lhe rop of lhis posl, I just goE out
be lhere bul MY EX. Now, lhe only reason my ex showed up was because she
must have known I !,,as out with a girl and wanled lo fuck up my game. So
the Ex yells at poor HBScraL'ny, and HBscra!,ny runs out of the house. The
- -. co say
book (it's a little misog),ni6t, so ignore lhat. part and check oul lhe
aalvice). one of the main character6 iE telling anotsher how he keeps his
which a nan cad manage a wohan. One way is to knock her dol.|n__a method
Iargely adopted by the brutal lower orders of, the people, but utLerly
abhorrent tso the lef,ined and educated claEBeB above them, The olher
way (much long€r, m.rch more dlfficult, but i.n the end no leBa celtaln)
nouhing but chililren gro$n uP' Qulet reeolutlon is the one quality Ehe
anlmals, the chlldren, and the women all fa1I in. If they can once
Ehake fhis supe?lor quatity ln thelr na€te!, they get the better of
hirn. If Ehey can never succeed ln dlsturbiflg it, he gets the better of
tshen. n
even afte! the relatsionshlP, ahe stil1 can't Btand You aleeping with
otsher people?
gtyla vtLEea,
BTW, ASF helped ne invaluably before the relationBhip and noxr it,s been
real1y key to butlding up my seLf-esteem to go garging agaln after a
deatluctlve relationghip like thlg one. So thank€, I
Style wtltes!.
A'ronymous wrltag
"I'm out one nlght and thi6 girl checklng me out. AE Ehe loota
lhe \,ray I'm dreEaed? ahe a6k6 ne !o lratch he! coaC. Do I give of,!
lnpregElon t'hat I'n weak?,
geyle replles.
Try looking at thia way. She walted unEil her $ly f!1end6 Left, and
then Lurned to tal.k Eo you. Sure, maybe she thought you rdere a nice
guy, buts ahe clearly $anted !o ireet you alld talk to you, Otherwise, its
would have beeo very ea€y f,or her to tsake her purse to Lhe bathroom by
Anonymoua wtltaga
gtyle rapllas.
lJ!d, Rio, Ehis iE EXACTLYhow Tony CultlE (o! whoeve!) gels Marilyn
gxyle RepTlea.
ThiB iB trre. BuE ltrs eaBler sald than done sonetimeB lrm finding'
nolr that rrn back ou! talglng, chat with the lotal HB1os, soneElmes
Itm Eo anazetl that ltm talking to bhem and iE's working uhat I Etart
!o g€! netvous anil blow j't. iluEt being nervoua ol not comfortable
aro\rnil a HB1O, tro matter wha! you're eayrng, Bholts then they bave
power over you. I FometlneB try to took for 6mat1 ugly features and
gcyLe vrltaE
I thinl tbat you ate too nervou6, that yourre too intsimldated around
such a beautiful rdolnalr (even your writing style is nervouB) ' And I
thinlr thats shen you're nerltou6 anal rmcomfortable, the person that
beautif,uf, lromen. But thah's easier said than done. Ihere'e svengali's
ideas?
SByle vt!,tes
llas anyone hele taken MyBlery'B BaBic Training courBe? Can anyone
recomnend it? Dial anyone get reaults or learn technique6 that helped
them Earge otl lheir own afteirardB?
Fo! me, Iid ju6! Love some erq)erience ln the clubE wlth a PUA I
tespect, !o get over aDy lingerlng ahyneBE I atIll have r and to have
aomeone glve me eome f€edback on rny 9ty1e and Eticking pointa. So,
tha! Bald, 18 thls worEh an RAFC paying for?
[AIao, when you lespond, plea8e keep 1n mind thal I do not cale
wheEher Roaa, MyBtsery, or Rayre methods ale bet!e!, I do not care vrho
gela lald more; I don,t care which one of, them i6 for real and which
i6 a posert I don't !,ran! to sEa!ts one of EheEe ugLy fLaming wars \re
gets bogged do$n ia in thiB otberwise greats newsgroup. They've al1 got
good ideaa and Ehey a1l get lal.d (I hope). ThankE.l
SEyIe wtixeg
Eubject: DoubLe Field Repor!: Dou-b1e SuggeEtionE Needed
\tas too shv to talk lo them and get them !o come to thi6
at night but
partsy he was having l noticeat tha! every guy in the room kepl cominq
watching what you guys have been going through tonigh!' but ny friend
some reason, one of lbe girls asked me !o sit down a! the emply fourth
guys come up and crash and burn Their biEch shields L'ere up
lralching
to !a1k tso oLher people, she ould just wail for me and shoo away
vratch peoPl.e and liBlen to them and €olt of nentally proceas the
lnforflation and leafi fron lt. This etalt6 a really good convelBation
anil increalible conneclion type of Pattem) ' Ftnally, we have bonded '
She algo 6ays 6he go! out of a long lelationghlp a yea! agor and aa
Then the frlenal EayB 6he reaLly wants !o go hone llBFrosued says ahe
is goiEg to alroP her flielrd off, and then call me Lo 6ee vhere Irn aE'
so I'm with tny frlends aE a bar, itB dead because its Monilay' ald
out, I live half an hour away end she Eays she iB going 1n the
(whlch iE
dlrection anal lea1Ly has a 1ot of work !o do lhe nex! day
actually E!ue, buts it's also a cop out). So then (and this iE !'here I
s19n6 are good, anal lhere 16 kino and rappolt, but I could noE
coning back without her friend. AE tshe same time, I can tse]1" 6he gets
hits on and used for her looks a lot, so making any sort of direch move
on her would have been a problen. Any Euggegtiors tor how I should have
handled this situatsion and, especially. how I could have escalated it
beyodd kino arld rappole to a more romantic close? How I could have stooal
out mote from all the OTHERguya as someone she wantsB to get phyFical
with? I !1111 probably see her again when she is back o! I,m ifl her to$n,
but I definitely anled tso seal the nlght bettser and bond her cloBer to
mer because Bhe,a deflnlhe MLTRmaterial.
Seyle vtltaar
Aarln, you! obBervatlong are perfect. You nailed exaclly what \rorked
and wha! nent wlong and, itr Ehe blgger picture, nailed my strengths
and weakneEaeE. I e€pesia1ly appreclete the advice about HBFtosted,
in lurni,ng an ob€lacle t'o an advantage $hen 6onething doeEn't work.
A13o, I totalLy f,al]ed ln noE getting sonelh1ng stalEed ln the
balhroon- -!,rhy else would Ehe bring me Ln there? I wi6h I had you
whigpering Eheae lhiDga 1n firy ea!, lhen naybe I'd have a different
r.eport instead. I'11 ulrdate on llBFroBled, who I'n supposed to Bee on
Saturday.
SEyle vrltes
Thj-n](ing about it, it'8 much cooler to say nwhy don't I pick you up on
Sunday on my motorcycle, arld we'Il rlde alolln Lhe XXX !o the YYY.'
fie1I, if's a lot sexier lhan going f,or coffee or nhateve!. Man, you
theo borrow a halrpln to fix tshe exhau€t release valve (or lthateve!)
in 30 aeconds.
gtyla vrleas.
I have been meaEitrg to poBt here for awhi,le, buE I've been outs of the
which \daB leafly amazing. When I teturn home nerat week, I will po8b a
In lhe meantime, here's a nild fleld report from lhe European city I'n
visiting.
on Friday lright, I weat to a dance club and ran intso a friend. She was
r,ritsh two Britsigh wonen. And one was jus! a totat bitch. She hadt her
arms folded acrosa her chest, had a shitly altilude. and basically
tsold me to go to hell when I was intr.oduced. Since hangirlg out with
Myslery, I've tearned that if, you treat thie att tike a game, ir,6 so
very easy because instead of, ju6t trying t.o make people like you
(r,vhich ia aeen as pathetic) , you,re loylng xrith them (which intrigues
them) .
So I decl.ded tha!, Juet for t'he 6port of it, I,d try to break down
HB!Vi1. I lBolated HBEVll and dld a 1ltt1e mind reading
trlck oll he! tha! I leafned, At flrst, I said I,d read her nlnat and
come up with Ehe name of the fllEt boy she ever loved. Then ehe said
Bhe'd never loved anyone before (no Burprlse Ehere) . So insteaal I \ren!
with he? mother,s name, and got it welt enough to implegs her, Then we
aat do$n and X lan a couple 11ve-for-the-monent pattelnB past her. Then
I tried the Grbe game olr her--her horBe wa6 a unlcorn anal he! slorm was
ove! the unlcoln. go f told her that,s vhy she,d never loved
anyone--ahe | 6 holdlng out for a nan who doeEn?t exis!, and then Ehe,s
got thls 6torm cloud over hlm. So we talk a 1itstle nole abou! deep
lelationshlp stuf,f, aDd tben I Just Btop ealking to tes! her because
I'm gettlng the DDB look. She say€, 'So, what do you do for \4rork?, AB
we all know, lhat,s a sule IOI, 60 I use t'he Mygtery +cloEe and say,
'So, would you I1ke !o klss me? She he6ilates, and I don,t give her
tlne to reply. So we stalt making ouE fo! a while.
partsy the night before. I say hi, and ehe just thtoits herself on me.
dfulxk, and ne're af1 over each other. We sit doim, and then r nake the
her I can maybe lake her to anoEher club tso get 6one. she says okay.
vfe get up, and as Ehe pasaea the batshroom, ehe pullB me in. she sits
dordn on th€ lollet and lakeg a long pee (renehber my laat f,i.eld
bachroom, and lhen he burEls ln the door. r!'s sone guy, naybe Ehe
girl'B boyfriefld. Ihey EEart yel1i.dg at each other, and finally she
lle go to tbe other club, and aE Boon aB we nalk in, I eee HBEviI
Bitt.ing at e table alone !,rlth he! arma folded. She gives me !h6
of death for dltchlng her, and I Jok6 and play with her a liutle
(becauBe her regponseE fall llrto such a predicEable Blereotl4)e, 1l'a
easy !o be one .tep ahead of, het) . Any$ayE, I'n in heIl for the nel.l
half hour, because I have IBEvil up€et that I'm wilh this dtujlk
party glrl, and I've go! thl8 drurtc party gilI upeet becauae there
A MARRIAGE CIJOSE?I{ELP I
Outside, tlBlhri1 disappears aBd I #close the party gj.rl, itho iE vely
upset wlth me becauae ahe ia tired a[d wanEE drugs to atsay awake. I
rrm iEto a group of abou! 20 people (I know one gnry 1n the group), who
are tsrying to f,igi.Ee out \rbere to go. I stsart talking tso llBRussian arld
suggest that while they are slandirxg around indecisive, we carl go tso a
There i6 a_line outside the clu.b. and a guy behind us startss tatking
to us. I t.ef,l hin that HBRuEsian and I gots engaged tonight and are
celebraLing (I,ve never aclually uEed this before, but I tshink iE-€ a
good t,actlc wi.tsh Bomeone you've just. met becauBe it seal3 you to tshe
HB lomantlcelly-it, B a loke that. ptanLg a seed of possibiLily ln an
fiB's mind, At' ghe very least., you,re both eharing a prlvate joke
Cogether, creatlng a fantasy worLd for the two of you t.o live in for
the ntght. Any Choughts on thls?)
Any$ay, the guy in line wag Juet amazing. ge 6aid he cra6 e priest, and
then he took a ring (Eo!t ot like a keyring) off his cell phone and
perf,onned thia beeutiful malriege cerenony, full of undying pledges of
1ove. It real1y wes quite beaut.iful. I puE Ehe ring on HBRussian, s
thunib, and of cour6e kiEEed the brlde very welL for a coupte mi.nuteg.
we went lnalde, ki8Bed mo!e, a.rld pald our prieEt a beer for hlB
Bervices. He took ou! nameg and addlesges, and said he,d send us our
paperwork becauae he gwearE tha! he,s really a priest.
Aftser a Liltle while, we leave the club and her friends are STILI, on
the colner. lfe hang out and !al.k wiEh then, then I sugges! we slip
a$ay again, we go back to my hotel room. she 6ays tshe nlght i6 too
perfect, Ehat thig can,t be !ea1, and getE a little shy about getting
hoo phyaicaL. She say8 Eomething sonewhac earcastsic. like, ,I knew you
wele goidg to try !o do this., and ther I tsel] he! a st'ory. I!,6 ait
anazingly sad but effectsive sEory abouts a girt and a boy who each meet
their soulmate, atld then a aliver of doub! crosses tsheir minds. They
decide !o test it jusl to nake sure, but in the proce6E they tose each
otsher forever. I can lrrite it in more detail if anyone's inlereEtsed.
Anylvay, she gpends the night antl we f,oo1 aroud more (buE we don'h
actually have sex, despite my amazingly told story) . She's very sweet'
and leave6 in tshe morniDg, and 1 like her and think 6he could be a
MLTRPo6sibility, until. ,.
dleBBeal tlashy. x wonde! if, I Ehould talk to her for fun. l'lhite
mlnuteg (thari{6 agaln to MyBtery fo! lhe confidence). I tefl Bome storlea,
arlal we EEart talking about i,rlld nights out. ghe talks about ao orgy ab'
to and I get he! worked uP on Ehat, asklng abouE he! feelings aod
you're totally comfollable and you can Just let youleelf go,
tha! you'le safe to do ldhatever you want and 1!'s al,I okay' therc''
lote of kino and 6he's glvltrg me lhe DDB, so I do lhe MyEEery *cloae'
It' s terrible.
As Boon as we 6top, lIBRuBElan aPpealB out of nordhele and te113 the girl
tshat
she 1E ]eavfu1g lhe club now' It turn6 out' that Ehey're friendBl I an
seanal tbere in 6hock for several mole minutes' then intloduce tshe girl tso a
flienat of mine and go to flnd ltBRuEsian. sadly, 6he'6 alleady gone '
Aaal, worst of all, I nevet got her nuniber the previoue 4ight ' So the
story I told her abou! the Eoulmatses ttho lose each otsher forever come6
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r all in all, an amazing weekend ful1 of romance, tragedy, and nore
E *closes than I,ve ever had in a reekend clubbing. Any rhoughts,
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SLyJe writes !
Yes/ it vent grea!. I have so much ro say, and I/m out of rhe counlry
right no!,. I will work on a fu]] report and posr it nex! rime ln a!. a
compuler. I have a few quick lhoughrs ro share in the meanrime
If you are READY for it, it is invaluable. In orher words, if you nave
posted the olher day oith four kiss closes woutd no! have been possible
And, honegtly, what I lowed most in lhe ctass je !ha! it u,as tike
being out wirh lhe asf net sgroup whispering in your ear. Many peopte
here go ou! sarging/ come back withour a good close, and lhen post
aeking for advice on lrhat they should bave done. Wett, here, you,re
TIME CoNSTRAINT, CLOSE NOW or lltRlr AWAY FROM HER FOR A SECOND l,tHEN SHE
DOES TIIA'I'AGAIN OT PEASE SHIFT OT TEIL IIER SHE HAS NICE SKIN AND RI]B HER
SHOUI,DERor whalever,
Pleaae, no flarnes from Mystsery,s collll)elition. I leally
clasEes, but tso me, they seem tike two conpletety atiffere[t thing6,
like comparing 6teak and ice cream. Sure, you eat. them bo!h, but they
taete nothing alike. Sotne like one, 6ome like the other. andt most tike
then both.
gtyle w'!,tee.
Okay, after I aBk, would you like Co kiss me, I know what t'o alo if she
Bays yeE, o! no, or maybe? or if ahe just hesitates. But, Last nj.gbt,
€omeone 6aid naybe later. What ls the rlght reBponee here?
gtyJ.a wal,taq:'
What I alao learned ale four lnportsant things that I,d read but
never really appl.led before, They are:
EAVE A OIMMfCK (or at. the very 1east. a prop). Thi6 way, you can just
bypasE the €malL ta1k, demonsErate value to her with a short
performance (a story or trick or demon6tlatiol or rdhatever) , and 6carr
arl i.n-deptsh convelaation about whatevei deepty personat su.bject arises
fron the uEe of the gimmick (that, I guess, i6 part of Eex nagic).
I only have one ctllique with the claes, and I'11 say thls aB much for
can PU alyone. gomelines !te'1L juet be walking out of a bar, and herll
Etop bxto gBE walklng ln and JuB! #cloee fot spor!. I qtlBh, howeve!,
that he BpenE a 1it!1e leBB Elme demonsElatlng and a 11t!1e mole tlne
great wing, Sio, !,rho a16o helPed oue. And thiB i6 a problem tha! can
easiIy
No!r, for n4a main pralBe: Ehe great advantageE have come af
ne. I now feel like I can apploach any gi!1 and know exactly wttat
alo anal say to get her lntrignred a'rld cloBe. I waa neve! very goo'l at
*cloglng Bomeone I'aI only net mlnuteE ago, atld now I EhiDk I can' I
f muE! have #closed 20 girtst *closed 6ix, slePt vtith two, and, ln a
Etrange night, f-closed tlto crazy €islere. And o$e of Ehe girlg I
#closeal ltaB oae of the citsy'E enobbiest HBBt I rarl ialo he? giBter
yesteralay, \rho tolal ne sbe \ta€ talking about me alL day' r probably
AND, FINALLY
Aj:o,:ltmoue repTieg,
"Was the stuff you accomplished over the weekend really due to the
jus! sluff Ehat was in the manual?,,
StyLe replies.
The lruth is lhat the manual gave me rhe knowledge and the ctass gave
me the Ekil]. Withoue ASF and TFM, r wouldn,t have been able ro
appreciate the class. Bul withou! rhe class, I wouldn't have had lrie
confidence and know-how lo make all the approaches and closes r did.
So, yes, I credil a 1ot (but not all) of lhe vacarion succesE ro rhe
clase. Bu!, then again, lhat'e rne. r,m a quick learner, bur I rhink
anyone as going to learn more from watching and doing lhan jusr
I think Lha!. for Mysle-y, magrc and nysr iclsm work oecouse
that's whal he excels at. Magic doesn,! have to be for everybody: you,re
"Do you have any lvords or linee that gave you succees?,,
g|yla t€{)lLee I
C|tle about ho!,, there ate so few day6 in ou! actlve lifehime, anal we
ahould enjoy each moment to LtB maximum.
Theretg aIBo one abou! holr our enotlonal cilcuitry hag evolveil to
perfection whil.e tbe inteltectuaL pa!ts of our bralns is ne!, anal
Lmperfec!. It end6 wlth me pulting the back of he! halr. but I can,E
seen Eo get thls one quile tight adymore. Mystery or aoneone, can ysu
poEL It here?
Question ganes
"You said Lt lras easy bo di8arm the guys. lihat did you say to them on
gtyTe replleEl
Thls is eaBy. You jusc eay to the guys what you'd neve! eay to a girl.
In other words, you make Bma1l ta1k. elxile your fllend i3 sarging, you
ju6t ask her ma16 frlendB anything: nHowrd you guya end up here
egoB alen't brulsed a6 they Etand arouid watching some olher guy
seyl. wr!EeF.
Eubject'! Re! Odious aad ldygtery
seriously, thi€ j.6 the word on iteight: IE i3 not how nuch you weigh,
lt i.s how you ca?ry yourself. If you have good postule (tsry a course
button dol,'rr shlrt and black padts witl do), and have confidence (do
what you need tso do tso get this--be ouEgoing ar}d EPeak Eo other people
think of you as nfatr and more likety !o eee you as rbiS.i I knott tshis
because a good friend of nine is IMMENSE. He's vell over 3OO
guy who always knowe where the parry is. And he gets laid--by cute
socialite girt. and, jusl recently, she srarred daring my Brc friend.
I can't ewen imagine hovr they fi! together, bu! I guess she can...
So, Grim Reaper Dude, it may take nore work for you, but you can do
it. If you really set your mind to it and made some changes, you could
Style writesr
You rnay remernlcer HBExstr:ipper, from a field report from a couple weeks
ago. She tras the one who brought me into lhe balhroom and was giving
lons of IOIS, and Lhen her boyfriend kep! calling on rhe ce_ l. I had
asked whether I should call her or no!, considering rhar she lives
\,,ith her BF. well/ i! turns out she called me lrhile r was on vacation.
I called her back roday, and she \ras giving good rOIs on the phone
(talking about how she was looking for eomeone to kiss last nighr bu!
couldn't find any good guys). But, aE t.he same time, 6he atso tust
broke up with her boyfriend, so I was also the ehoulder !o cry on. r
gave her some advice, but got off the phone a liEtte quickly. Then she
invited ne lo go lo Las Vegas wilh her this weekend. Now, here are lhe
1. How do I keep myself from being the shouldex !o cry on and insread
already have me in mind as lhe rebound, but r don,t wanr ro turn inlo
lhe shoulder.
2. Her BF lives in Vegas. She said she'6 going dot+'rrthere thiE weekeDd
"with a really hot frierd" and warlts ne !o join them. she said shers
going jusL Lo have fun and forget about lhingE. so. should I:
A. co along and hope lhat netfl have a f,un, crazy lost. weekend oltb
B. Make planB for nhen Ebe returnB fron vegas. I fear that going with
on HER to Bhon ne a good bine in HER clty, and thererE alwaya the riak
gtyla vtltat:.
apploached a IIB who bad jugt beeIl etood up iB wbats nade thig all work.
The lesson here for newbie6 is appfoach, approach, apptoacb untiL you
wonan's self-esleen, Of, coulse, a girl who goes back to a hotel with a
gruy 6hei6 JuBE nets iB not going to feel good about hersef,f. l{hen Ehe
€talteal acltng like a "bitch,' aE you eay, arld getting all freaked
out, al1 she wanted vas solne reassurance thats she had done tshe righ!
tshing, that you don't do this atl the tine, and that you were a nice
guy. Wben you say ,,we11 the leasr you can do is give me a bj before
you leave,,' thal's total Neanderrhat/AFc behavior.
l']y guess is thal you felt insecure afteiwards, and 11'ere freaked out
her reaction. If you had understood how she was feeling and been
slnpathetic to her (in other. words, eased her doubts and raken cdre
her), you probably could have continued to see her--and gorren youx
pracrice inl Instead, she left feeling lricked and feeling taken
advantage of, and I'd guess that this sor! of ruined the experience
Nexl time, r.rndersland hoo she's feeling. And, if you,re really feeling
bad about your ability, vork on a parlern telting gomeonehow the
firsl rime, you re lusr so exciLed co be wirh her char you can L netp
yourself because she turns you on Eo much. But. rhis rs. sood rhing,
because you know lhat over time/ the sex will get berter and berler,
unril you bolh know juEr how to pleasure each oEher for hours and
hours, over and over, etc. Tell her how i!'s grear ro have gotten se*
out of the way, and now you can drop lhe sexual rension and the gameE,
and just be complelely comfortable together aE you get to know each
o l h e r e m o E i o n ally a n d p h y 6 - c o l l y .
Othe! lhan t.hat, it sounds like you did a nice job. h lhe future,
Style writes,
eubjecu: Daallng with "diffLculti girls
then, hhey don'E want to be figuied out. So anyt ime thaL you say
anythlng to uBe bhe values yourve elicited of, gain rappor! or sbow
non-cofifilta11y. Basically, these are ltomen who are glving you shit
leBts and batEleB of, lte all the time, half aB a meehod ot ftilling
Bmillng and enjoylng the convelsalion, but you are getling abeolutely
nowhe!€. Theyrle the easles! gir16 !o flgule out', but Che laat ones to
ever eahit !ha! lheyrve been fl$Eed out becauBe their gelf-image ia
be ou! getting plcked up.i ltm probably not erq)laining thie aa wall
I cou1d, but do you know the Eype of woman lrm talking abou!?
(becauEe I ge! annoyed, Ehough It1I alnays siriLe and nevel 6hou i!).
BuE. doeg anyone have a blldge or pattern or idea thaE works od these
women, Eo get pas! the BS atrd alupid crl4)tlc cotnnents to the more
actionB) Ehat rnakes her fofge! about asd let go of, her6elf and the
I learned somelhing nFq (at least I think iE's new) by accioenL -dsl
ntghl .
obviously, the bathroon Line isn,t the place to do it, and there isn'h
But find me when you're done, and we'll Lry LhiE LogeEhe..'
It worked great for me ]ast night, because I,d be lalking l,lith one HB,
would find ne/ pull me aside, and beg me to perfom for ber. This
worked out great/ because not onty was i! great social proof/ but I
witsh the bathroom HB after we sat do\rn, or go find the other HB I was
Maybe this is obvious, but lrd never lhoughL of il before. Last nishl
I tried il lwice, and bolh tines lhe HB came looking for me. (Ir helpe
tso be a good, enthu6iaetic conversa!iona1:6!, 60 thaE tshe HB is really
SeyTe wrLEes.
I've noticed that the beat way to keep an HB fton flahing 1B to aets uP
DEFINITE plang before you leave. In othe! nroldE, donrE juat Plan olr
meetlng for coffee aomebime or seeing each ouher later in the week.
l,{hen you're ell.cl.ting va1ue6, eliciL EV!:NTS Eoo. Then, !,,hen you
#cLoEe, you can say, 'I'11 sall you to go to Ehat..,n (wbatever, Ltut
the more nenorabfe the b€tter- -concert, anu6enent park, cool barJ.
this probably seemE like obvious advice, but the flake facto! ia rnuch
l-ess when you cloBe wilh a definile plan lalher thall ju6ts an agreeD€at
to 'hang out. i
A1Eo, on lhe Eame Ehread, whetr you #cLose wiEh a g1!1 and don't cell
he! (whlch bappens a1l the tlme), whaE do you aay Eo her lrhen you see
her agaLn, eBpecially lf you decide you wan! !o pick up where you lef,l
off, and go fo! a *clo6e or no!e? l{aa not calling her {and having to
Style wtlEegr
okay, you aI1 are going to thanh ne for this additsion to your
palm- reading
Novices may wonder whether to read the left hand or the right hand.
The right hadd 16 connected to your left brain, Lhe analytic side
(which deals r,ritsh numlrers, larguage, logic, etsc.), eo its generatly
teLls you about who sorneone isr on Ehe outside. Xhe teft hanat iB
controlled by the right brain, which is someone,s intultive 6iale
(creative, artietlc, itetinctual, erotic). Now, and here's whele Ehe
good patterning cones in, tell her, and tbis i6 true, tha! the left
hand almoat alwayB has clearef, and cleane! lines than the right, anal
this reflectE the degree of repressLon in ou! society of our nahural
intuitive and erotic selves. you can use thle to launch into the
Natural !{oman patleln.
SEyle wrlgest
AL6o, j.s o4e better fot a cl.ub and the other better fo, stsreet pus.
For example, you walk up !o the bu6 stop and an HBg.5 is Etanating
tshere. what is goirg to Lead uLtirnatsely to greate, rapport or a
greace! close:
A. Saying eomething like, "Have you been iraitsing tong?" or ,rThose
boots ale amazing. Where did you get them?,'
B. Laulrching into a routlne, tike telting he! you need t'o pracrice
handwriting analysis for a cfass and then doing it or1 her. Or tsetling
her you lrere having an ar$rment witsh a frlend about (spells,
relael.onship8, whatever) , giving her the lrhole excitlng story, and
then ellciting b6r values.
Non, Eay you Bee an H88.5 ets a ba! in a club. What do you go vrith, A
(uhich le eBaenelally leading w{Ch 6ma11 talk) or B ($hich is throwing
her int'o the excitemen!, brrt also llllre lhe rlgk of maklng you eeem
"irelrdn ) ?
Etyla v!!ta'r
The dil.emma la that the better looking ning aLtracts more femal"e
atEentlon to your gloup but the worse-looking wing makes you the
prize catch of lhe grouP.
(Itm a8king this quesElon cause f Bonetsimes wtng lritsh a $ry who rs
model naterlal, and we talk to ton6 of HBs. but I tend no! tso do as
well because they naj.nly have eyes for him--ever though he haB almost
no PU 6tyte. )
Arlonylrou6 writeg:
geyle z:epllesl
then, fron thele, Elert talking about dlet, and lhen health, and then
lifeEEyle, and wlehln there flnd a connectlon for a *c1ose.
gtyle wtltas!.
I Ba\r a girl from the back laBt week, and thought it. was a good friend
of mine. I grabbed her Buper-affectionaEeLy from behind, but \rrhen she
turneal around X reallzed i.t waB a ilifferent girl. I 6aid, ',I'n 60
6orry. but you look juBt llke my best friend :{XX. And you can take
lhats a6 a complinent, because Ehe,E a very cooL girt.r Then I walked
away becauBe ehe was in a gloup of friend6, and didn'ts tshink anyEhing
of it.
Later, I was by the bar arld she just came up? a tittle drunk, put her
hand on fiV chest and looked at me with tshe DDB. We fluffed f,or abour s
seconds. and then l realized thats she was just up for it. I 6aid.
whispering in her ear with my cheek brushing hers, 'tYou know, it just
doesn't seem right to kis6 iny best friend. t' arld then we nade out fo! a
while. I probably could have taken het hone, but' for some reaEon,
because iL waE TOO easy, I startsed tso get a litLle nervouE and blew it
(MAVE to $ork olr this) .
Anyway, the question is thlB: do you think that misEaking someone for
a cloae friend, greellng tbem very affectionately, and then euddenly
doidg a lakeavray when you reallze that it's not' lhen lrould lrork aB a
generaL approach?
(I thought that naybe thiE wolked because she 6aw the ingimacy and
affecli.on Ehe COIU,Dhave lf 6he was a friend of mlne, o! nraybe she iras
seyZe vrltas.
subjccts Rq! OraI 6er<
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StyTe writesr
I We wen! wilh Ross ,l a! a museum to les! lhe walers there for future
T
sarging.
I! v,as lhe firsE time I had met Ross, and I was inpressed: the man is
T palterns
on a balcony
commenled
were jusl
lo
on how amazing
look
oozing
at a city
it
our
l'as
of him.
and/
to
My favorile
standing
look out
near
at the
was when we vrent out
some women/ he
had a to! of fun. T haven'l really done a lot of street garging (nore
bars and clubs), but il was amazingly eaey. We'd just 6top someone and
ask for dilections; in the process, they,d giwe us some scrap of info
about lhemselves. t^Ierd ask a question about it; and then werd
lransitj.on into doing something frm like lhe Cube with tbem. Now,
crimloLe is a genius SSrer, and {ou1d get them into anazing lr:ances
for +closes. The best was in a slore. l was cutJing one super-cute
Asian-Latina girl while he was doing the same vith the orher girl ho
uorked lhere, a hippie chlck. They were rgnoring the phone and
the hippie girl was so turned on that ehe would hawe been aff over
Grimble. I muet learn moxe NLPI And this leads me to Question Two:
Raised E:.peclations.
Before asF anal sS and everything e16e, I was excitsed just to geE one
phone nuniber a week. Non, I know that I can #close l,vith just about anv
girl, So, no$l lrm coming home tith a pocketfut of nurnbere {one or euo
Anywayr we met tno bisexlrat 91!18 ln the shteeE who !'ere Jus!
nranalellng aloutd kl1l1ng time' They both lived in lhe alea (!te
didn't), We dld Eome Ss'lng, anil tha! go! them aloused' and had a
becau€e a lrue PUA woulil have brought them somewhere pllvale for a
a couple girlB ir! tshe EtreeE atutillg the day, arld you can tell th€tl
suggeEtlonE?
SEyIe eEiEeB.
club, where I,11 get played. Eut, since I !,,as in tas Vegas rhis
weekend and knew I'd end up in strip cLubs, I read Mysrery's srrip
away from lhe stage. I didn't look once. when a stripper approachedr r
said, 'Of all rhe people at the table, you picked lhe wrong guy. I'm
Then she said, 'rA lot of my best cuslomers are gay( and offered
me a nassage, and went into the srripper rourine of how she was jusr
doing this for a ]irlle while, and really needed the money ror Lne dd
company she wanted to start. Midway through lhe speech/ I cur her off
and said, rrwhy don'! you rake my seat and talk to my friend. r'm
(What I shouLd have said also, I realize now, is "Why would I wan!
lo pay you for a massage. I,m trained in S!.redish masEage, and you
I went !o lhe bathroom, then relurned and took a sea! behind the
table. Another stripper came up and, again, I told her I !,as gay. Then
I said, nAnd, do you know wha!? Aven if I wa6 etraigh!, I vrouldn,t buy
soon as he dancee for someone, or starts telling then lhe same storres
he's !o]d a hundred people thal night, he doesn,t see them as human
beings. And you aclually seem like an interesting person, someone who
with/ and I woulah't want you to ruin lhat opportunity. " {I drdn't
Then I told her lhat she should go make some money, eo she sat.
are tslutst and businesswomen are tupLight,' but in fact every i{oman
haE tto women inside. It worked okay. but then she went into stripper
mode and 6aid, nI Love aex.n So I juat cul her doetr and sai.d lhat she
wag pald to Bay that, and $e talked for a whLle. But it was hard to
wlth my other fllend. She gave fire the thunibE up behtlrd hie back as she
1efE. lrhich \ra€ gleat becauBe It neane that lre nere colleaguee-r lraE
she comeB back laler wilh my friend, and thankg me. I tell ber
!ha! If ahetE bored between ilanceE, to come bach and I'lL keep be!
boyfllend, and pretly rnuch repeat the thlngB I a-ald to lhe previoua
girl. Every now and then I Bend her alray to go nake money, and Bh€
makea a 1ap and lhen JuBt comeE back. She aayB I'm leally i
atd I tel1 her Iim coning !o lordn nexts t eek for a concerE and d.or:l
know anyone (hlnE, hlnt) . she Bays sh6'E lnuo the band, and Ehat tlq
can'! flnd anyone to go? I ebould call her.
I'n reall.y not that irto herr thiE was just plactice. r thinh
unintere€ted in he! phyaically, helped her ge! buaineae (Bo Ehat I lras
more pirlp than cugtoine! to her) , and then proved my north aE the noat
inlereBting guy in the c1ub. and, if I do actually call he!, I'm not
that \rorried alouts Ehe gay line, becauee if I can get he! attracted
for he!. Any Ehoughla on lhis approach? I'n excited !o work on it and
refine it.
Now? one nore thidg: oue of llv friends, who ia older and no!
that atstractive, but is pretty cool and haa a kick-aaE job, wents off
for a lapdance with a stripper, \dho totaLly Euckeled him irlto one.
il
F
F Back lhere, he said, ',co gentle. I have a wife at home, and am no!
F r:eally looking for lvet pants or anything. ,' Anlray, they ralked a to!,
F and she asked him where he was stayrng and if ir was okay if she came
over lonight or tonorrow. They stayed back rhere for rwo songs
talking, ewen though he only paid for one. He also said !ha! her patms
vere swealy after the talk and light dance, as if she was excired_ And
then, \,,hen we lefl the club, her srripper friend asked my friend, "Did
you get Rachel's number? "
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actually intere6ted? And if she ras actually inrerested in hjm after
he paid for a dance, does Ehis mean that stripper rutes don'r atwdys
have !o be followed? Or does i! mean that if you have a coot tob lrith
Styla wtitegr
I went out !'rth an Asian (,Iapane6e) girl I met sarging wirh Grimble.
She was a lol of fun, and really responded !rel1 ro palterns, so I go!
to make up a lot. I lurned a1l lhe cord of lighr stuff (and energy
for example, inlo a pattern on lhe way a cerrain singer connects with
Anl vay, re make in the club, and she,s Id r_y responsive. Then we
F
but also move6 my hand away a litlle ia case it goes anl.lrhere Eoo' umr
private.
I kno!, tshat if I coulal get upstalrB, it would all be okay' But, I knott
don't we go upstairsrtltitl be tsoo direct for he!' so, when you canrts
get to youf, house, rirhat are your tactics for coming up with an excu6e
come up wlth sonehhlng !o sbow he!, ptay for her, whatever, and you
bolh know !tha! the gubbetct ls, buE lthat do you do fo! HER house? (A!e
lhere any plop6 you could bring-_Eomething you want Eo show her bu!
gtyl€ jElteer
Actually, lttl!)rov can help your game. But not enough t'o make iE wolttr
taking the cla66 for thaE reaBon afone. Hele's how inplov helps--aDd
thlng€ you learn abou! creating refatLonEhlpB in lmprov are very easy
of, fu.Ir a.!Id pletty cool (and there alwaye a couple HBs in a c1a6s) ' I
find that improv hasn'l necessarity nade me any quicker: or cleverer
vnen sargrng.
SEyle wtitae t
Ird love to post thi6 on faslseducrion, but, for some reason, afler
firs! p o s r s t h e r e , I b e c a m ea ' d e l e E e d u s e r ' a n d I c a n , ! t o g
back on. ItrE Btrange. Foroihandle, can you email me and let me knoi.t
\rhat I need !o do to reactivate the name, I,d like to use i! there,
since it's lhe nar0e I use here on AS!'.
Style writeg t
The first PUA I net was a friend to just nEke eye conract
with a HB. Ee,d walk arrayr she,d follow hin,
I've a1way6 relied on talk flrEt, though there's been that' rale tlne
lfherl Irve juBt felt the vlbe and gone for it with someone I was
a1lting next Eo without even having tatked to her.
I'd l1ke to play around with \rordleEE making out and *cf,oseE (I gueBs
they'd tecbnlcally be *opens) mote oflen. Any thoughCs or suggeslions
flon people rdho do !hls?
Etyla tb!.tag,
So, before I get to lhe succeaseg, I need some serious help with this
one faiLule. I went to a great ctub in LA tshat was justs packed wilh
HBs. HeLl, even Hugb Eefner nas tshere, surrorrtded by 1j.ke Eeven HBs
dancing around hln aIId oE his tsa.b1e.
I of not-too-bright par.ty girls, and they put their arms arormd me and
lell me what a lucky guy I am. And I smiled and joked a lirtle and totd
I
a good slory, bu!, one by one, lhey drifted away. I coutd retf r wasn r
holding their interesl. They were like ready for actron, and r froze.
This is because the openers I knov don't work (because the 9ir16 ran!
a it takes too much lime), and phase shifting into making a physical
I move won,! work on a group of three. Whar would you have done here?
Please te11 ne, becauEe for some reason I atways seem ro ger stuck
I lrhen a gifl like lhis fal]s into my lap withou! any vork.
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t Anyway, luckily, two really cute brunertes si! next to ne. And I tell
t them rha! I was diecuEsing somelhing with bhe orher 9ir16, and woutd
I be curious to hear their opinion. I rhen re]1 lhe same srory (about
t
spirituality) lhat failed rrilh Ehe three girls, but rhis line it works.
And we get in a deep discussion, and lhey siwe me ibeir nunJrers {one
lives wilh a BF so she gives me her cell #--a good tor) and make me
I
I ].alei,
Latin-Aslan
I'm lalking
walks
with
by. I
my pivots
lurn
and an exotic,
lots and lote of kino. We #c1ose, though I shoutd hawe *closed buc she
I hedr o really hot blonde saying il's her o-rEhday Lomo row. T
nenorize
birthday
her face so tha!
(which r do. and ir
r cab come up ro her later
Anyway, sone ctosing thought'. one ot my pivots had 60me good comnenls
on this stuff. On the neg abou. age, she 6aiat: ,,GirI6 think
att nighr
aDour conments like that. when you come up to them 1ater,
tshey
r:emenber you. tr
Seyle v'lltes.
And, Ploto, I agree lhat lts'a maLnly a thing to do ln clu.bB and bars.
So, tell uE, ho\drd you !,u11 tht6 of,f 1n a bank llne?l I'n dyj.ng t'o
hear thlE oae..,
SEyle vrlEes
Nice o!re. Anil you Imow wllat llray even be better: Penn Statior at 4
a,rn., when the ba:aa are closed arld maybe theret6 atr IIB there who's
mi6€ed her laat train and isn,ts looking forarard to clashing out in
train stalion.
Next tine I'm in NY, and have a bad night in tshe bars. I jost migh!
have to hit thie up on tshe way home. In fact, ltow that I thirtr abouc
It, a gooal harmlesE o!,ener would be to ask if 6he's seen "a girl lritsh
blonde hair ln a powder blue colrboy hat" (or nbatever) . say she lusc
calleal and wanted to craEb at your place because Ehe miBsed her train,
but non you can't f,ind her. Then, after building sone ?apport with the
targe!, lnvltse her over, 60 that the Bofabed you prepareal f,of, your
frieod doean't go Co lraste.
let uF know when you field test. any of EhlB penn Statlon etuf,f,..
Ano'Jr,'|tott9 vtltas,
Iraa Vegas, lrhere elEe? {Tustsgot back from a nlght out. Tons of #closes,
1. ToI1Eof aocLal proof, I had three sets of g86, and ]'d Just move
frorn one !o the other, and I noticed tha! the mole I was getting
attentsion from very attractive HBs (alL thlee of which had bf,6--and
aII three of which I *closed). the more btatant the €lightly less
attractive EBs wouLd be in coming olr to me. By bhe end of tshe nighr,
women $e!e just coning up tso me 6aying, "Don'ts I knolr you from
I
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2. Knoirring where the party was. I made myself the leader of rhe group,
I go! then into lhe clubs. Anyone \rho wanted to know what was goirs on
had lo cone !o me. I put myself in the position of host, guy
"the
taking care of everything to make sure everyone has a good time.n r!
Bu!, I s!i]l would l.ike some adwice for cold approaches qilh rhose
clubbed-out chicks ! After all, despite all Che altenrion and kino and
making out, I'n slill back in my holet roon alone tonight on ASFI
SEyTe writeel
My frlends and I !,ere Just talklng abou! ho!, !,onren age ilifferently from
men. AB nlen gel oLder and mature, a lot of \dornedthink they become more
altractive. But for women, once you hit 20, you're like already too o1d
to be a modeL. So 19 in glrl years i6 like 27 in regutar year6, So we
were saying !ha! it was unfair of our sociely to age women so quickly.
If you lhtnk about it in evolutionary tems. a ironan doesn'r reach her
eexi.ral prime ul)EiL much later in life.,'
This would have made a good lransition into the nalurat woman palcemr
but inslead I sort of lhrew in another mini neg. ',So r,rhen you walked
explain.r And then went straight into my routine without ever reatty
e4)1aining,.. This liras all improvieed on the fly {based on a Kirk po6t
comnent to her wichout apologizing (and with negs conlcined with slighl
Anoayrcus vtLtes I
Guya here ahrayB Eeen to ask thi8. It $a6 Euper-easy. In fact, lc was
kind of fulury. I Juat aahed hlm uaual fluff talk questionB. She had
20x nore good-Iooklng than me), Eo $e Ealked abou! that and how he bad.,
just noved to xxx. go I Just 6a1d I go to )lXK all lhe time, and
thought 1t lras really cool and Ehe people there ale really fllendly.
And Ehen I Bald next tine I waB there, r could lntroduce hln Eo aome
!o sor! of do a dance move and sholr tha! he waa a fun, party $ry. I
priinate maEtery over hi6 girl). His girt didnrts respond reall-y, and
looked over ats ine and Eml1ed (aa if to aay, nDo you see vrhat I have to
deal with?tr) she tolat IIle not to fotget Eo call her on tshe vtay out, but
again I just get the feelitrg that, evett lhough she's very cute in a
iupper middle class dadtty's 9ir1'I way, 1tt6 not wortsh the tine because
she is still leaLly enotionally atstached !o this guy she ltent out ititsh
for so 1o4g anal seeB him as lhe love of he! Iife (even lhough they're
-
SEyJe wEiEeE.
I'm so close lhat I ca!] almost laste it, but I have one major sticking
poin! and need some Eerious advice from you a]l. (rf you,re in a rusn,
jrisl skip to the last paragraph of lhis pos!):
I jusl got back froft an amazing weekend, but not amazing enough. I gor
I
12 #closes. Tlro $ere with girls who work at Hooters and one ilh a
slripper (al1 \rere off duly at the time) . Another one uas a total tatl
pale black haired rnodel t]?e, with a serious bf, bu! so smart
and cooL l'd seMe for friends if lhe bf deElroyers don't work). INOTE
FROMSTYIJE,2006: I,M STIIIJ IRIANDS WITH THIS GIRL.] Then there lras thi6
sick Lalin !,oman with a thin, baby face, and huge sott naturat breasr6,
and a real1y cool, thin black-haired girl with a perfec! stender body
and lwo liprings (how do you kiEs a girl with tiprings? Anyone?).
Probabty one of my bes! weekends sargi4g. (It hetped tha! I had ]ols of
social proof all weekend, and kneo tons of people.)
Now, here,s v,here I need help. Despite att lhis euccess (at one point
I was on a couch with like six btrs begging to be next. for hanitwr:iring
analysis--il uas ridiculous) / I only *closed once. And I had a faited
*c1ose with one of the Eooters girts. I knew she liked me (rons of
hair playing and manipulaling her friends so she could srand nexE Eo
ne and even calling my cell phone to find me whenever we separated),
but I lost confidence for a moment when I \,renr in for rhe *ctoee, so I
The way I eee it, my sticking Poj.nt rights now is sexualiziag my gane '
Tbi6 is especially true wihh very attractive vtornen. where tt'E more of i
challenge. what are ltays tshat oChels here uee tso accoq)lish this of
somelhlng is stl11 ni6sing. t'lhat are way6 others hele u6e tso gee a girl
to Eee then and think of lhen ser<ually, bolh overt and su.btle {body
1an9ua9e, tonaLity, eyeF, lltpes of kino)? A lot of EBa aaid I was one
of the most intereFtiag guyE lhey had evet met, buL I Etil] fel! like r
I'm also looking fo! i'maklng the move't confidence builders, becauee,
when?"
gtyle rapllegl
Yes, maybe you and supelBobo are rlght. The key is In the klno r
thlnk maybe I've iltte4)reted kino to mean siq)1y naking body contact
well.) Bu!, naybe, kino 6hou1d be fess abou! qua$tity arld more about
So, SuperBobo anal anyone else here, can you retl me how you u6e
kino (or how I Bhould) ? Not just rhere and how, buts also lrhen etc. The
sooner the better, becauee tomof,row (Tuesday) I,m seelng one of the
EBE I #c1o6ed with a couple days ago in the nVthen cirts Approachl
post. Thank l|ou 60 nuch f,or Lhe replles, and for remiading me why ASF
ls such a godEend. Your advlce will be lq)Ienented imnediatelyt
8ty7e wtlgag.
YeE, thlg 16 a good one. I do 1t all the !ime. And, of Ehe *cloEeB
Chat lrve caI]ed, I havell'! gotten one fake nunber. Even once, when an
Ilalian HB aaid iju6t give me liour nuriber and I,11 call you,', I didn,t
respond .nd JuEt dld the paper-flpping trick, And Ehe gave me het
nudber. ]Jike you 6aid, 1t'E very hard for her Eo lefuse wilh a paper
and petlcil ln her hand€ without belDg very obnoxlou6.
SCyle viLEesr
SEyIa vr!t€a1.
l.ou have done, out of culio8iey, if, instead, Bhe had given you the
dreaded flEpeech.' You know, the one E\at goes rI juBt go! out' of a
seriouB relatio[ship, and you're rea1ly nlce and a].1, but Itm Just not
leady for anyEhlng right now. I hope you rmderBEand and vre
can €!il-l be flleltds. "
Style wrLEes:
Man. Red Conila, I Ehinl< we have the EXACT 6ame problem, We 6hou1d talk
via email and gel to the bottom of Lhis. For fun, let me rel] you
I went out with one of those HBs from rhe when Girls Approach post.
a beautiful par! Br.azilian girl who just has the bigges! warnrest eyes.
And, dude, check oul how stupid I am:
Afler dinner, she inwites me up to her house. She sits next to me
on tshe couch, And do I make a move? No. I keep rhinking about it and
lhen imagining her rebuking me vrhile Baying ,'r just gor ou! of a bad
relationship', (which she did) . I,m sure its,s on for nexr rime, buc
StyJ.e wtiEesr
2. Does this nean I used Lhe wrong approach: tsiied !o be the perfect
tbe other li.ne she used (which I aleo hear atl tbe time) when 6he
stsopped me fron maklng further progress waB: 'rEvery time I eee you,
yourf,e surrounaed by a dozen 9ir1€, you musts have a gj.rl in evely
gtyla wtltegr
f ,ve notlced that in doing Ehls Etuff. everyone haB to fi.nd theh
sty1e. And some tenets of SS/ASF/FaBtSed work, and Eome don,t. Orte
thing thal I Etarled dolng when I read ASF ls keeping Co the ,'nake pla.Es
and get off the phone fast', routine. BuE, I noriced lhit it
a]wayE freaked t'he IlBs out a llttle when lhe converBations t ere Bo
abrupt end almoBt bu€iEe6B-1ike. ThiE week (iErE a no Farging
week- -and all fo11olring up on cl.oses week) I're been trying to build
better colrnections rdlth the people f clo6ed, and I've been tsrying
instead lo talk for Like 15 mLnutes. Tlis way, I think they feel nore
connecEed to you (becauae lhey're investing thelr !ime, thoughtsE, and
atoliee in you). Non, I'm not juEts a stranger they met, had fulr wj.th,
and can ignore; Irnnore woven lnto their life, atrd its's harder to
f,lake. A1Bo, it gives me a chance to writse do\m their trance and EV
words next to tsheir name6 ln IIIy phone book--for future refetence,
So, I don't know if I gots tshe wrong impression or idea from previous
seduction posts, but doing a short chatty phone thing {with a lirrle
bil of patEerning and ss s]-pped in) is definitely reducing the
blurring and flaking factor for me. Am I missing sonething here?
Anon}7noua replieg t
style tepilaE I
I aglee with lhis. A mediocre looking guy dripping vritsh aetirude may
seem like an as6hole. On the other hand, you don't \ran! !o come across
olher words, lel a girl think aE frrsL EhaL you're aloof or arroganL,
bul slo\r]y open up lo them and 6hos your warm, down-to-earlh 6ide.
This accomptishes two thingg I Bhe thinks she's making progress t.hat
other HBs donrt and i!'6 exciling for her, because she knows you,re
not like this with everyone. secondly, you have a very good way of
"punishingtr her if you don't like her responses (if ehe doesn,t return
vrith lelting her earn your rdarn do\rn-lo-earlh Bide and see vhat
happens. I think if you can play lhis right (not be tsoo aloof on Ehe
openei, but noi be too super-nice immediately), you'l] get amazing
gEyle eftlCe€r
Once again, lot8 of, good advlce, I am realty loving this board.
Cood post, Alesgandro. DMZ, brutal but tsrue--I have t.o wolk on lhis
Btuff.
And Wlzzard, let's elther comnunlcaCe vla email o! BEalt a neu tshread
hele to diacuge our ploblem. I think Lhat maybe Eone HB6 want a
rrperfect' guy,' frame and otherts lranE a trhot ONgn frame. And you can,t
aLwayE find thi8 out r,rlth nornal Ev'ing, becauee HBs ate not' always
golng to be toeally honest with you (o! themgelves) abou! which they
'rreal1y lranE deep doldr inside." Fron your posts, I wonde! lf you !ry
too hard !o rrEay the right thi.ng" to women now. That may be a form of
supplicalIon! even if we don,t pay for lhings. by ahvayE trying to
pfeaBe Eorneonewith tordg we're st.ilt Euppllcaling.
Sllck Eddiez, I'm u61ng tha! paltern next time I hang out lriet! he!.
That'B probably all Bhe wanCed Lo hear. And naybe I shoutd have
lesponded Co the nyou're always surrounded by girLEr Line witsh a cocky
pacing llne like, "YeB, and ivouLtln't they be jealous when they knew
that, outs of aLl of then, you're the one I'rn naking out with rigbt
A'tonyfrou' wtites2
Exactly. I uBed to never Lalk abou! Bex, Bu! nord I talk about it fron
her point of, view, and leL1 storles that shon ne no! aB soneone lrho ls
deeperate, bu! a6 soneone who iE able to get anal? nore lnportantlyr
Aaoat8o$s tddgr
ol've alBo have mede the rnistake of golng fo! a *close when I could have
taken thi6 gLrl hone. Keep 1n mlnd that a #close !ron, E always get you
Laid.'
StyLa add'l
Not only that, but you ca! gets the phone #, get a leturn cal], hang
out, and cfeale ad amazing conneclion. A.nd Ehe STIL! might blur and
digappear on you. Thi6 just happen€d to ne wlth someone who f kne\r waB
real"Iy hlo me, and I ati1l caD't figure out vrha! went \rrong. li4y beat
g1rea8ea are: fear of Etartfulg to like aoneone inlen8ely (itt6 a loss
of contlol is€ue) or the fact that I didn't get physical with her and
she justs wanted to get iL on lny badl] o! another nan/otd BF appeared
in the lnearltime- . .
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I think rhe tesson tha! you (and r) are tearning here is: seize rhe
t
momenE, becauae the srate an HB i6 in when yourre v/ith her may t
disappear she teaves you. Of coulser lhere are SS lactics I
for helping to make her rhink and dream about you when you,re
bul I have yet
goxe,
t
to see these reatty conclusively wolk belter:
methods like a good takeavay or e4)ressing necessary
than orher
watue. Arlyone
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A few days ago I posted tha! I vas going !o see a real"Iy cute Asian a
HB I had sarged. A strange thirg happened, anal I wanted to ge! advice. a
She's from a very stric! famity,
motherrs house. She was 20 then, and haal never
a!|d only a year ago moved out of her
kissed a guy o!
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anything. Nord, of courBe, she,e lost her virginity.
but is stilt
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pleE!y lnnocen! and inexperienced, 3
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So we welrt out, and I patlerned att nighr, making nyself the key !o a
all lhis adventure 6he was missing
out on. The sarge was atong the
lines of a famous quote I reait somewhere_ _ ,,The
tragedy of life is no!
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thats il ends so soon, but tha! we wair so tong ro
begin it."
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She said thar any guy she had ever been virh she had been friends ]
with, but nonethelesE we connecred wett anal latked a tot about 6ex. t
She said that her favorite part of getting phyEical was kissing.
loved t'o kiss. When she came back ro my hotel
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room, I lookeat her
seraight in the eyes, and came in very stowly and confidently for a
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kiss.
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She responded, and I lrent to tower her backwards so lhats sherd .
be lying on the beal. But att of a 6udden, she ctinnced on top of me.
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aDd just r,rent oild. lihile we were naking out, I paused and said
Eomething fike, ,,tou,re a great ki€ser.',
AlL of, a sudden, 6he just wents ten6e, rolled off ne, and said, trI have
tso go.rr I lried to make her stay, arld feel relaxed, anal talk t.o her.
She Eaid Bornething about her ex-boyfriend. and how she wasn't being
f,atr tso hin or Co ne by slarting a new relatlodship because he was
golng through a rough time and needed hin. I agreed lhen trled to
patteln he! out of i!. But she was Bet on leaving, and grabbed her
purae and walked out of the room very brlBkly. I figure that either
ehe naa aca!6d of ne becauBe things were movilrg loo faBt on our fi!s!
time hanglng out, or ghe lraE scated of herEelf becauEe he! "natural
wonran'r came ouE for a bllef momenl.
Has anyone had an er<perlence like thls? Mole impoltanc, I need Eo call
her loday o! tomorrow, and am trying !o flgure out: What is it. that
ahe needa to hear to be lesB f,ealful, to 6ee ne agaln, end t,o B!a!t
this nen relatlonBhip?
Attoay'noug aaka I
Style reFtltae:.
wilh the olher l{B. Tben I'd talk to her about her answer, and Itd
Eotice thac her face \rould litserally light up when she had lhe
was kind of like trying to keep llro candtes lit on a windy day: I had
tso keep lighting one lhen the other, over and over, untit I could hint
to HBPer6ian tha! she 6hou1d be getsting ready for her flighl. Overall,
and its could hawe gone bad if i! wen! on for too long.
HBAnlston,
"Why don,E you ualk to HBcirlinblack. we,re leaving her ou! of the
convelgation. tl
And :{BAni6ton did it, maybe becauee I eald ic In a way ehat nade her
feeL like
However, I muEE noee !ha! Mystery's advj.ce for Buch sltuauion with lwo
HBL: YeB
HB2: Yes.
Say to Botsh: well, I don't nant you two kissing in flont of ne.
styTe wtiteg.
subject: R e ! Socially Inepts
Liseen to everyole here. And read what Specialis! says. But, mosL
important, readlng will onty get you €o f,ar. you nust acts. That is the
only lray to 1earn. Start out s1ow, arld take it one steD at a time.
Irm alao wiLllng to bet Ehat yor don'! look people in the eye when you
Bpeak to !hem. llold your head up and meet their gaze. Then, for
Blalterg, walk a?ound where you Iive and practice aBking direct,lonE or
for Ehe ts1ne o! whalever. These are AFC tacticB, but you have to sta!!
Eomewhere. Then practlce crea!1ng foltolr up conversation.
Style Jtritea.
Eublecu. ldy New Frale
I've noticed tha! my most succegsful salges laLely have been when I
nI an not trying to get a[ylhing from you' I am trting tso give You
Last night, r ltent to neet an HB I haal garged who t'n realIy into' she
was alrlnklng wiuh another friend, !'lto was lurning 30. To make a Long
Elory short, I made nyBelf the birthday girt'6 blrthday preaent' The
Lhe HB $rho I know likee ne and who I really tike) were encouraging us
happy.I' so it becane ME doiag her a favor f,o! her and her f,li€nds' and
Anony,8'oue wtlcasr
"I've reaal aomevthere that while kisging a girl on a bed, you really
SEyle repllaa:
Hmn. I get contslaalictoly advice on thie. I tsa1ked to Ross 'f, about it'
unalelstarld, it's the theory t-hat you move for ard, tben back off for a
little ohile, then nove fonrard further, Lherr back off for a 1itst1e
while, etc., untsil you've gone all tshe l'ay.
Any one e16e have ldeas on conversation afler lhe kiss. Yes or no? (In
tshe pa6t, Itve tiked to eay eomethlng tso let her know that Bhe,6 doing
the right hhing, but maybe it.'s not necessary and breaka 6t.ate.)
Anonyuoug vrLteEr
"I,m lrolklng to becone a PUA and an doing pretty well at getting lhere,
but 6one dayB the AFCa
Styla tcpT!€El
UEuaLLy ltra when Irm tj-red ot' have sonelhing etse on my mind. It'B
very f,rustrating now that I'm used to getsting good re6ults atry night
of the week.
And, vrhat f tve noticed abouts AFC Reversion Syndrome is that I become
WORSEtshan an A!'C. Because not, I an codscious of the fact tha! I suck,
and i! tshrows me furtsher off iny game.
The only way I can think to get over its is to practice all tshe tsime,
tbat when I practsice a1I the tim6, I end up with too nany IIBB ca]ling.
{It's weild, Iatse1y the HBs I sarge are calllng me befole I ge! a
chadce to call them--Irm trylng to figure out whal Irm doing right.)
Anyone have alry other Euggestions for geLtlng rid of AFC fla3hbadke?
Etyla wrltasl
nights when I feel on, and thiE is entertaining gloupa and walling to
lBolate. In other wordB, r'11 apPloacb one or lwo HBE 1n a gloup, tell
a slory that I need their oplnlon on, and i'f thei! othe! fliendE are
I'11 EeI] tlrem I want Eo shovt them BomeLhing cool tshat relateE to lhe
topic, anat bring two o! lhree with me aomerhere quiet. then I cube,
rnagic, whaEeve!. Eventually, the othar girls follow Eoo. And aoon I
flnal nyEelf against lhe waIl surrounded by Eay f,ou! girlB' I'm getting
conmenting on things abouts thern bad body language (especially for the
anal see who is tshe most responBive. The additsionat plus tso lhis i6
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tshat I can #close with everyone in the group, because we,ll all hang
ou! cause \relr:e all best friends now. And this means not only more
Last lreekend, one group I was with suggested coning back to their
house for an aiter-after-palty and getling stoned. It l11asso on.
Uoforlunalely, I haal a plane to calch in a couple hours and couldn't
do i!. In my AFC dayB, I'd kick my8elf for missing the opportunity.
Nol,r, I don't care cause I have hheir numbers and k$ov there are plenty
ShyJ"e wtiEeer
Okay, Irve had a great nine days, with three new f-closeE. (I,11 post
phase shift on two of tshe girle I could hawe. With one of them, Ehe
was even really tipsy and a guy in the bar was saying "she,s the
hotcest girl here and I can lell she likes you by rhe way she tooks at
you.ri Right nowr I am in a hotel room and she is tying in the bed next
Ar.on'r,ovg wrlta, t
SEyla tep].!ea,
the more social proof you have. But. more jmpollar}t '
girl you're with,
atl HB that gets you the social proof'
itrs not just simPlY BEING with
Itre how she is behaving towards you. If you'le both in a corner bored,
it wonrt get you anywhere. But if you're with one or two less atLractive
women, but they,re hanging orl your ever word, laughi.ng all the time,
having a 1ot of fun, and maybe even dirty-dancing with you, THAT ie
going to make juet aboul any woman itant. !o neets you.
Anony!.oug writegl
SCyl€ tepllesl
RaFM for EhlE que6tion, I can suggeBt aone Late! 1f you want. In Ehe
meantlme? try thiB,
OPENARS
DEMONSTRATE VA'JUE
ESTAB!]SH MNNECTION/RAPPORT
P}IASE SH]FT
*ctosE
#crrosE
Now read tshe manual and browse tshe Newsgroups. Grab you! favorite
etuft, teet out €ome of your own lactids, figure out your mo6t
interestlng storlee, and put !'rhatever can work for you under each
heading. Nord you kno exactly $hat to dor and how to escalate. Work on
proceeding one 6tep at' a time, and come back here and seek advLce for
each sticking point. The secretr as you 6ee, is sometimes simply
Afronyfroue wt!,tag I
"A good freme lE to aaaoclate touchlng people lriEh being friendly and
not geducing tshefiL"
Nuse kino on them Eo build rapport"
StyLe rapllegl
I carr see this. and I do uge kino, Maybe I need co pLan out a kino
map. In oEher words. good kino moves to acconpany each Etage of the
holding, atrd €o on. A16o, 6orne here advocate loEE of li.ght kino,
otshers say a few well-pLaced very finn Eugge6tive touches are good.
SEyle wriEe! z
Eubjectr Re: tlhat to answer when eh6 aaka: 'Where are you
from?'
YOUI People alwaya ask me that. But you know what I Cblnk, \,,here
yourre from ianrt who you are. Why don't we lly to have a mote
fulfitling conversaeion than I do lrith everybody else and lalk about.
more imporlant, ghlngs. If I \ras interested ln tho you we!e, f would
ask a quegtion 1ike, So wha! is lhere in life that you ale very
paaBlonale aboue, that rea:,Ly motivaCes you?
YOU: Seriou6ly, it's somewhere that you would love !o go one day. And
it's somewhere I could even lake you !o. But you're going ro have t.o
Telt u6 here where you're from, and we,ll cone up with sone good
ansners for you. I doubt lhat any rrB is truly turned off by any ansx,er
gueEs, it's l{ow you
you give. It' s not wItAT you are tse1]ing tshem, I'd
A,aoayd,oua Jtt.lce9r
gtyla tePl'lesl
!ea11y matber lvhether Ehe cheek kiss is
My fhought le Ehat it aloesn't
alice6n't tnaEter. You neeil !o JuBt call he!' You need to have a good
reaBolr to catl her (sonethl'ng lhat makes her Efidle) ' You need Eo
otr the phone Then you need to
alemon€trate Bome charn anil personality
1e! he! 61eeP in the room next door this Elme'
tsahe her out, and don'!
r'm sure he
AB for your wtng, Just Eell hin what you're doing first'
rltonrt mind: he ha€ a HB no!t.
Srylewfilesl
think thjs was an impossibleoneanyway.And to tell the truth I didn't really want to crossthe lin€ here.But
celebsneeda different routine.You don'ttreata l0 like a 2, right? So considera celeba 15 on th€ ou.sroe,
anda 3 on the inside.Therearehugewalls you needto hurdle,but onceyou're in you are in.
F I thinkthataroutinecouldbemade.
For€xample, her,youcalldemonstrate
beforemeeting valueto people
I whoarein herentourage,
everyone
isalways
constantly
them.You'redealing
tryingto impress,
withnarcissists
you'realsodealingwith peoplewho
sothattheytalk youupto her in advance.
sosimplybeinga performer
whoarealsosuper-ins€cure,
o. storyteller
soa different
is boringto
formofnegging
isneeded.
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dowhatever
obstacle
herethanyouraverage
mentality
theywantyetthey're
completely
istheirhugeDISTRUST,
because
HB.Theyarefulfilledyetcompletely
fapp€d.Anyoneofuscanfulfilltheirneeds:
everyone
theymeetalways
wantssomething
fromthem.
empty,
theonly
theycan
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StyJ"a writeE.
on her (i'Hi (friendly squeeze, big snile). I'm sorrv, vou look exactlv I
Ann. Bu! lake lhat as a compliment r because she's
like ny best friend I
a cool gir1. t')
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IJaier, \de started talking about mystery and the unknovm ' I
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denonstrated some psychic stuff on her, and we lalked a liltle about t
the powerfut emotional. connection she had with a recenl ex (this I
it) . Then, when asking about the psychic sluff' I
probably triggered I
tatkeal about how I lurned off my analylical brain and jusl got in
righE and
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touch wilh my emouions, my feelings, because lhey are alvays
I can always trust them. Ae lte !a]ked, tears juBts staleed dlipping out I
of her eyes as Bhe 3miled thie teary smile. And she had a bilch shield I
when \de orlginaLly !a1ked. AlI her friend€ wanted to f,eave, but she I
me and of course *cloeed.
Ecayeal and talked witb
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gilL I wasnr! even
I
EB2r at a small party, there was a ptastic_surgeried
salging her, But she was talking abou! how traveL was lhe most I
important experience to her, and I cold her abou! 6one of my amazing I
traveLs and insighls and people Ird me! Her hadds !'ere so Boft aB we I
tatked, chat I coldt her I should hold them. As I !a]ked, at about five
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o! Bix ditferent Bcories or ideas I shared, her face vould juBr well up
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anat tear up, I anchoreal alt this !,ith certsain touches on her hand, of
coulse. Tiater, I askeat my old MLTR if she often cried like that' and she I
Baid no. I
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Both tinee vtheD this happened, I felt I could just slovlly brush her
hair back from her face, make eye contacts, and move in very slovtlv for
a gentsle kiss. Does anyone else here have experience witsh this, and
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T theory ls that it may be some sort of unfutfitled frusrrat.ion with
! their o 1 4 a ll i f e findins release because r have rhe piece rharrs ml6sans
t in rny o1,]n life, maybe. )
PS My old MLTR a! lhe parry asked whea I had become such a ladies nan.
I pretended, tseasingly, that she had created this monst.er. Thanks
again for everything/ brorhers I
StyLe vtLtesr
Okay, as I was posting (in trtactlcsr) about making girts cry, one of
the girla I Earged (bu! didn't rnake cry) ca1led fte. The HB vho I mec
at an ex-MlTRrs party phoned and, sidce ve're both avray frofi\ our
families, she want6 !o spend xmas eve togelher. Thi6 is good, because
shers detinilely MIJTRor cF material. She said, "Do you think we shoutd
hang out? EX-MLTRprobably t^rouldn,t. like i!. I haven'! totd her."
I could not think of the righr answer at all here. She wants a reason
!o hang out witsh me and not feet guilty about fucking over her friend.
I think I said the wrong thing, becauee by ans\,,ering i'I'm sure it,s
okay, " I may be shovring myself to be a t easet.
so, no doubt, when uetre making our ronighr (if at1 goes wett), rhis
is going !o come up again. wha! shoutd be my response (esp since r
slepE wilh ex-mlrr tast nighr, though rhis girl doeen't know it)?
So, ltBg called ald fucking flaked. She eald tha! a frlend of hers wae
ln toxm and had Ju6b broken up lrlth her boyfriend, and ahe needed to
drlnk. In other wordB, I r,ET he! flake on me. I have half a miod to
calt he! back alrd teII he? \dhab I thlnk of people ltho nake p1anE and
haven't cLoEed) called on the olher line, so now I'm golng to eee her
obvl.ously, I dldn'E gay the rj.ght thlng on the phone to che orlginal
girl (lhe unspoken Bexual tenslon on the phone between us was eo high) ,
a4d Bhe eitbe! chickened out or talked to my ex-MIrlR, I 8Eill need t'o
Man, no firatter how good you get at this stsuff, lhere's ahaya so much
mole to leaft. ..
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StyLe writes I
So my Bleps are:
When I firsts heard the idea of asking rhe friends for permission, it
gounded silly. But. I've never had anyone say no. In facr, when I asK,
I win e*tra points with her friends.
Style tEite',
0: AFc
6-7 | PUA
8-9: PU Guru
10: PU God
Style wrLteg,
just slealing a p e c k on the lips when you 6ay gooalbye I donrt consider
hopel).
Stlle n'fitesi
HeyTirn,
Yourproblemsseems
to benot leaminglinesandroutires,but anoverallbelielsystemchange.
Oneway to do this is, to quotefiom IntroducingNLP: "Simply act for a time as ifthe beliefyou WANT
wereaue andrcticing what cbangeswhen you do...ifyou realizethat the only thing betlveenyou andwhat
you wafi is a beli4 you car beginto adopta new oneby simply actingAS IF it werc fu€." Ifthe new
Stylewrites:
Subjec*Put a priceonyourself
similartacticI like to useis ifa
Thisis all goodstus Juggler.And great,odginalideas,asusualArother
pas! or if I just me€tsomeone andthey'rebeing
womanling€ringlytouchesmein a barwhenslrcswalking
'handsofrthe
(Youcanalwaysttuowin a
veryphysical."That' be$30.Thisshitain'tfor free"
merchodise"linebefoiesayingthis')
lmodeledthisfrommyex-girliiend.Itrfaot,forttlebenefitofeveryoneherc,hefe'ssquoteaomher
all theseguys
because
,,1wer$outandall th€s.guyswel.edloolingoverme.I gohomein teafssometimes
aleallovermearrdalllwalttodobhavefiln.Aguycsmeuptomesndkissedmyhand'lslappedhim
me
to fry out' I saidto thisotherguy'a hot lawyer"Youdonottouch
andsai4 "l aitr'tnomorchandise
overtherel'm sue lhey'dlike it l
whenyougoout Wry don'tyougotouohon' ofthosefashy whores
to me' His
boy,'Yougottrthinka lot frsterthanthatifyou wantto talk
AM a l6dy'ThenI s.id to sEoth€r
'HoyMks Bxtove4 oomehere' I sai4 'You don'ttell meto coms
fiisndvrs sittingn€arbyandsai4
prize '
Good,simple,oocky,flidatiousshrffthatmakesyouthehard-to-win
Stylewfites:
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Sty76 writeg,
vrith a frieoit to a pretty fancy hotel bar' There wele Ewo women
gitting at the bar, bolh looking amazing from the back' We aPproached'
alay to day, Eeconil tso second, fo! helse1f only' ller fllend
llveE
Etand, and she told Ehe 6tory' I used a
teaEeil he! abouE a one nlght
new RoEs technigue to eliclt value6 and EtaleE? and she answeledltery'
fhen Ehe sald she was !rying to teach hel friend ho!'t
very erotlcatly.
inne! E1u!'
Eo be In Ehe nonenE nore aad ge! ln touch wiEh her
started patteming
I I recovered okay. and then kissed her without any kind of rourine
I
(verd been lubbing hands and arms for a while by then) . Then I look
her into the bedroom. There lras no resistance at any point: Ah, otder
women. And, lhe be€t part
t
is tha! the packaging was not deceptive. She
had a great body, and sti1l looked good with makeup rubbed off in the
light laler.
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Anyway, thereis something elEe I learned from thie. Later, all four of
uE \rere in lhe same room. The oTHER wonan kept looking at me now. I
took her hand and we slarted rubbing each olher's handB. The[ I
realized lhal I couLdn't ignore the woman I'd just slepr with in front
ot her. So I sCarted to be very erotic and revrarding with the blonde
I'd just stept with. Everything I did to the blonde, I did ro turn on
lhe olher rroman (a brunette). The amazing thing is that the blonde
jusl went $,ild, saying ho!, amazingly Eexy I was and thar she was jusr
I getling turned on like crazy. I suddenly realized a new $ay to lhink
about sex: do it, and inagine lhaE you're doing it to rurn on someone
else who is vaeching, an even hotler girl thar you wan! !o steep wirh.
For me ac least, it made my movenents and EoucheE incredibly
smoldering.
Airyway, my friend. who didn,t even have sex rrith the brunette, did]r,!
hawe much game. I teased them a 1ilt1e bit about bisexuauEy. Euts
somethi[g crazy going on, 60 we eventually bid then goodbye. I may try
to eee the blonde again because 6he realty vas one of tshe claseiest,
most sen€uaf, and, wel"l, oldeat lrofiranI've ever been i,ith before.
coulil have loBt then. Mink rbat eaved uB wa6 lbe simple facL chat
lhese olilet HBE vtere in the bar already Looking for adventure '
At onymouE adde,
scyZe teplLes|
it. tte was too busy TIITNKING that he'6 cool by not doing anyEhidg at
all and talking in a really bored negative voice' I think I backed off
"You had a gxeat time wilh the blond but don,t: you think you woutd have
had a belter time lrying to execure a lhreesome with these lwo gorgeous
il Style tdplieB t
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have simply been lhe alilector, and given then lhe real adventure lhey
were looklflg for. Isn,! it f\rnny hov, high ou! standards are nowr I can
go out and get pocketfula of nunbelB or get laid, and s!i1L leel like a
I
Anyleay, a general note: I've been traveling and haven't posted here
lalely, bur have a lo! of fieLd reports to conre. However, vhat you point
ou! here Yaritai, screwed me up las! nights when I vas so IN t/rith thiE Bo
Derek-looking rdoman.You are 60 rightr I need !o tru6! lhat I,ve
conveyed enough personality, have enough IOI9, and should have the
fucking balL6 t'o SOI hardcore (tshe above sentence was just dictated Eo
Hey atl, been gore a few weeks. Back now. Misaed tsheae forums !
Any{ay, Stevie B, your Posts kick ass. It soullde like its'e time fo!
a1so. from your fout-k1BE cloae repor!, you sald you were having
tlouble getting phone nunibels. Here are tvro Euper baslc techniqueE I
what I lrant !o do with them when we meet again: Lahe then somewbere,
llhen I leave, Bbe uEually askE for ny number Eo thaE we can do thia
thlng,
2, Ingtead of asklng for her nuiber, I 'givetr her mine. But not
write rqa nane and nuiber. But I dotr't give it to her. r hand her the
96n and lhe oEher half of the plece of, paper. She ha8 to be real
number. ltve realized aoxt that itls lnPortant to give the HB your
nunber too. I call Eo f,ev, of tshe nunibers thats I get (becauae I'n
actually call me. Then I XNOWshe's VERY interesteal. and the game j"6
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I Alright/ Slevie B. Looking forward to your reports in lhe fulure.
I And, by lhe way, you']] not.lce thal in BiEuations like thal footballer
I party you went to, the 6ocia1 proof not only nakes approaches and
closes easy. It HUGEIY reduces flaking...
I Style writee I
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This should have been obvious, bu! I've only iust realized this:
ALWAYS, when #cLoslng, give your number to lhe HB as oell. This way,
if you never bother !o call her or just don,t have tine, she has Ene
oplion of caLlldg you. And if you nade a good enough inpression for
I (3nd I think
lheyrre
+closing
an HB always assumes you're
there's
got a call
going to call, because
Today, a gllL who IriiBFted ne a few years ago Btsopped by' We hadn't
6een each other ln a over a yearr and Bhe looked good. But I was
reaEon ahe 6ta!!ed giving me the DDB look. when Bhe went co leave, she
hugged ne, atrd then I looked her in the eyes and Btarted klBBing her.
So, everylhing waE fine? it was vely paeBlonale. But I r'tanted to agk
people here, when you'le making out. and you take a littsle bleak f6r a
second, rdhaE do you say? The!€'E a school of lhought that you don'!
falk t111 you're done ltith the deed, but I don't know if I buy t'hat. I
ofEen feel Ehat lhe HB wAlflts to hear Bomelhing Ehat lels he! know she
dld the right thing and that its's okay to ploceed. What are your
A!'onyrcus wlEes t
gtyle tepl{ea t
3. Your shors would only give you Lifelong immunity IF you had a Enree
shot series wilhin a year. Hey, maybe you got tbis as a kid. Ask your
I
I StyTe adde,
Dude, GET a HBIG imnurlity sho! NOW, like I advised you in the tasL
post. You NEEDa ttrree-shoa series for lifelong immunily. Don'r accep!
a doctor's advise that yourre pRoBABrryokay. It can'! hurt ro get Enac
exlra shotr eapecially since 90 percen! of sexuat contacr with Hep B
results in infection. so if you ge! lhats shor wirhin rwo weeks (rhe
sooner the betster), there's a good chance yourll be okay.
After you immunize yourself, THEN you can worry about whats !o do about
tshat shitEy girl. Okay? Report back here when you do, othervrise I have
gtyle vrltaa
EubJecg. tntroducdng NaluralPuA, ..
f've been Chlnklng a lots about NaluralPuA, who ls the first Pick Up
arti6! I ever meE. Of all the PUAE I've Eeen since, no one operated
like him. Irnfortutately, hets nonr lenoujlced hi8 PUA \,raye and 16
ceLibate, and I am not able Eo model him. Holrevet, he's the best l,ve
He waE about 5r7i, long curly hal.r, Senieic Looking, average build,
and plettsy average looking, DefinlEely not the kind of guy who turns
heads. His long hair was maybe lhe only Chlng that nade hin Btand out.
The day t meC him, $e wents to a club. and, wilhln tll,o ninutses, he had
nade eye contact lrlth a EB Btanding nearby, They walked off, made out
in the corne!, atrd lhell parted, Not a word t aa epoken between them ats
any points. Every Eime r/re wene ouE, herd ju6t slink off witsh different
gir16, and nake out or get' BiIa and hand jobs in the ctub. A total AFC
friend of mi4e hung out llrltb bim for three days clu.bbing, and within
tshatstsime they walked back tso their car with 12 different pair6 of
girls (tshat's 24 HBB) to make out. In otsher wordE, NaturafPuA wa6 60
effective tha! he could PU a girl for himeelf and o4e fot his AIC
friend.
From what I aeked at. lhe !ime, his frame was tha! he wa€ lhe adventure
!ha! women craved, t.he dark nyslerious anonlrnrous guy who,d 6$eep thenr
off their fee! for a blief unforgeetable rendezvous. Compared to the
lactics Irve learned from the gutus online, NaturalFuA worked so much
qulcker and wilh almost do talk. He,d Eomelines lalk a lit.tl_e before
and afler, and find out a bi! aboul Chem in a very caring way. He
loved women, from lhe bomely to bhe beautifut !
This is what e16e I know: he lost his virginity at like age 11. A! 13,
he saye he used !o walk arolrnd wilh the mind of a 19-year-otd and ju€r
pick up girls his age right and left. So I suppose afler so many years
of !hi6, he just honed tshis animal-like instincc for sniffing out who
was ready for 1ts, and juse moved in with 61ow confidence.
My questions are. Is lrhat NaturatpuA did parl of Ehe tactics lre fearn
SLyJa re€pond.E,
His failures never seemed like failures because he didn't
whoEe guardg were up, and in placeg where che gBE knew hiB
player reputation.
Anoay4ols a9ks1.
gtyl,a tq)ZLeqt
they were pLain; Eonetines they wete married and olde!, Eonelimeg
younge! and innocents, etc. For MIrTRs, he usually cboae very aEtractlve
SEyle vtlEes,
Idaas reeded
antl qualificatiolE all the time when I talk, and your que6tions here
are a good way to do it. Il keeps you in the drivex,s seat, and your
questions also inwolves a 1ot of presuppos it ions. which are grear.
AIso. before I hang out wilh an HB, I've been working on trying to
make THEMnervous by giving them MY e4)ectations, and naking ir seem
like THEY are loo eager. I've been into mixing this all with humor
too, tike in the fotloi{ing exchange serring up a lunch hans-our afrer
an ilB I sarged IU,ed me today. There's no genius stuff here, but it
just shows the altitude, qrhich is a ne\{er frame for me:
lvle: So XXXXXX
Me: 2 p. m.
HB: fine
<snip>
Me: I viLL cafl you before I leave for your ptace on saturday. I
do expec! you to bring your sharp wit and adventurouB spiri! \rith you.
Style wtite'r
before 18 not about all guyE, 1t's about lmnaEure 9uy6 '
cuteplace,anallllkeyou!BenseofEEyle'thoughyourbedroomwasa
e4)ec! company' A$yway' iE dtdnrt
1it!1e netsy. You probably 'liibx' t
nighE in each othel'a armE' very
mattet. We Bpent a woltletful
and it $aB ju6t
pasEionale but alBo very 6afe an'I comfortable'
the fir6! Lime becau€e we just
\donderful. It' didnrt even f,eeL like
wanted' And we botsh
geemeil to lsrolt already what each other I'iked an'I
lrhen we were apalt ' so r
just glordeal a$al tingledl ftom it afterwa!'lB'
rI hatt a wonderful time lasE niqht'
calleal you this tnorning antt 6ai't'
I've been notlcing latety Chat the HBs that put off the moBt sexual
vibe uauafly procesB inf,ormation kinestheticalty firet. The
visuale tend to talk fast, and put out more of a fun, palty vibe. As a
vj-aualr f eome in lrith a goodr faB!, fun energy. Bu! lately f,ve been
lrying Co phaEe-shift by thinking klnesLhetlcatty. In other wolds,
lrylng !o feel (through body eensations) j'neleaal of see lhe
environment. And I noticed Chat it stows my speech dovrn anal I put out
a much more sexual vibe. (ThiB may be why, afte! sexr you're glowing
and juBE radiatlng sexual energy, becauee you're 60 in touch with and
feeling your body sensations, which have just. been stimulaleal. )
SEyIe wtites!
on the phone hhat $hen l,ve Ealk I'm oo hhe line betlteen
Now, I can tell
gooit frlenal anil alestiny d?eam nan. she sayB she doesn't often open up
Che same tsh1ngs, anal lti6hes her fliend wa6n't ln laE vegaa gelting in
nothlng.
then lrait untll she comes to viEi! to try and nake he! an I4LTR Now'
however, I'd like to escalaEe this relatlonshiP on the phone ' so that
Anoalt',]ou' asks,
Etyle repli€F t
No, thi€ is my probleltt' I've haal social ploof, denonstsrated value ' and
9ty7e tEite'
I havenrt followed chiB whole thread, bu!, in genelaL, for the !1106!
part I llked your firnmess here, But your frarne of trying to paBs HER
teat waB a 11tt1e supplicating. And, besides, you don't want to give
yourBelf over !o a glrl who's going to play LheBe gameB,
TelL lh1s girl when you see her tha! you don't play gamee aDd don,t
flave time for games. Then go inlo the 36,000 days in a lifetime
patlern (do you know this one?). TeLl her you are a mature human
being, and if ahe tanta to be one, she has to learn Co tru6t her
feelinga and not he! friend6. As I said before, I haven,ts kept up on
Ehi6 thread, so if you haven't made progre8s ye! lhere are sone perfect
inlellect vs feelinga paCterns you can 6pin off of from here tshar enal
lrilh a little BLrong kino.
Style wtitee t
Actually, I asked abou! lhis a white ago, and Eomeone emailed and
-l
I
I
who l1as a.
Jonachan Altfeld He is an Nl'P trairre]:
mentioned a guy naned
r an
webeite and sells
buts
CDs on Eonarlty
haven't
They look pretty powerful-
t
t
eftiteEt
t
Style
But nv
tonigtrt ' I tlitLr't have anY expectations
vithell !,e got together
and giffiricks and bits'
I wasn't going to do routines
frarne wae rhis:
her up' I wenE
to exu'te ee:(uatity' so when I picked
.ras justs going
into her bedroom and jusc hung out. r tatked very quiet. and stow, vas
very laid back but at the sane rime mysterious, and just showed that I
was comfortable there. IE,s hard ro explain, but I kne!, thar I was 1n
already because I,d made a good firsr impression.
there, I thought I'd try !o gets then togeEher. I tolat them how lhey
could be friend6, had HBRed sits on HBstinky' s tap, afld, after
HBRed pecked me on the cheek, I told her lhat UBstinky probably
f,elt left out and sbe should kiss her too. She did. And then they
said, rrcuys love iL when girLs kiss.r' I reptied wilh rhe wrong arrswer,
I think, noh no, not me. I'd ralher have you kissing me,n I eaid.
Any\cay, my skills weren'r good enough here.
When I lef! with HBstin].y, we had been making out a tirtte. I triecl to
ake up at my Place. but i! was too
EelI her how nice its would be to
hone '
while
a
didl]'t
conslraint on mysetfr \thich vras inporlant
j"n making I
2. I put a tine
rlrginlty as a kld to link her to tha! sEatse' l^lhen she said r Bhould I
probabty head home, r asked her to 1ie
againsts me tor a lilt]e while
t
(courtesy ot adonis) ' whlch did
Then r did a sexual value eLicrtation t
on'
a lot !o geC her lurned
l'MR (lasts minutse reBistance) coming
t
4. We starleal again, and I feLt
lhese objeciions l EoLd her Chat tnle I
on, I no\t try Eo anticipate
nexE tsime' so that I
felt rea11y nice, buE \te 6hou1't 6ave somechirlg f,or
(This also obviously does
lre leave \titsh anticipation and excitemen! I
by assuning Ehat \te'11 do it nexe
two other chings: future pacing I
!ime, anil letting ber krlolv that r'11 aee her agarn' l
I
sex' because
5. I really thought we weren't going to have
t{hich was in my
I couldrl't figure out a way Eo get to my condomr
jacketontsheothereideoftheroorn'\tithoutcompletelyruiningtne I
and how nide ih
nonen!. So I tliEcusse't her sexual
value eticitation I
$'oultlbebofeellhosefeelingeofcompletetogetherneseand!,armth.
happy you did lhis, and feel good about yourself every Line you get'
that tingly feeting during hhe day and think back on this night." Then
I added 6omething like. ,,And tshe fourEh is that, since youi friend,s
dad is in the other room, let,s take this easy and ston. This way we,tl
kno!, vha! we have to ]ook forward to next !ime, and sone of tha! asrkward
Pressure wlll be removed, I'
5. And nay Rlker be b1e6seal, because Bhe vely easily agt:eed !o theee
r_uLes and we had a wonalerful night that. I lrould describe here it the
newEgroup wae alt . sexatorles . com. But' Ilts not, so you'I1 have to uBe
your lmaginalion,
Anony&ouE wtiteE t
hereassolidfact:usewhat\torksr'liscardlthatdoeen'E'andknow
in one eituatlon' it nigbE not lre
T
t
effecliveinanother.Forexample,]triedtouseRikerlsEhreerules
on me'
I
EB' and they almost backtired
again yesteralay t\tilh a differenE
I
Alnosts : )
a
r guees the tshings thal helped ne to learn this were: t
a
in lhe field and pracciclng'
A. Getling
sin' crifilb1e' T{otimer' eEc' I
B. sarging with people like R'l' Mystery'
t
Icoulalwatchthei!ganean'Ilearnandmodel';and\decouLd\talcheacn
says this can be accomplished lbrough e4)exiencer Ross says lbis can
be helped with NLP and hwnotism. ) *+*I!'s going ou! lhere noE with
she wants to eleep with you.*** And, from lhere, sone compare i! to a
vialeo game. There silt be certaiD challenges and obetacles on vour path,
So, ny advice, for what it's worth, is Lhis. If you havenrl already
done so, \rrile out a list of lhe phases in your PU (openers, ginmlcks,
Make sure you have sone sor! of plan for each stage, and write out
your different options. Then go out in lhe field and work on one
piece a! a time. Try no! to go out nith your sane old friends (vho
anchor you !o your AFC stale alrd ltho you atenrt comfortable
conneclior1 and *closing. .And know lhat once you ge! thi6 doun, you'11
find that you $on'l need notes or sleps, because you'll have
incernalized it all.
I,m still working on ny game, lhough, because il's fun getring betcer
A'lonyfiolJa wtitee t
I Eake her?"
''l am finatly Eekins tlis 9i r1 o"- ' Where should
Donrt take her to a movie, an'I 'Ion't take hex on a 'date'n You should a
for someone
j
be just "hanging ouE" to eee if she meets your standards
you'd even considei taking on a date' And' of course' you only date ;
before you go. Letrs say thats you're already commilted to a novie' t
Here's what you do. Meet her somevtherenear
$here you live for coffee t
or a soack or \thalevel
'Ihere, work on rapporl' humor ' interesting
t
Maybe even seop mid-gimmick and
gimmj"ck (graphology, cube, whalever) I
you left your ltal]et or the movie Eimes or
sualdenly realize
happens .
StyTe wtites
You did lhis vell. Nice teasing, and 6he called you back. I hate to do
a takeaway, bul 1will. There's a great slory thae I use tha! you
could have tol-d here. 1'11 post it when r have more time. It,s gotden:
to be added Co the permanent Eeduction files. It not only $orks in
lhi8 situat.ion, but last. week I sat on lhe tloor of my living room and
tol"d lhe story to an HB on our FIRST time hanging out. That nighc,
afler 1l,eelep! together, I aeked her when she firs! wanCed to kisE me,
and she said it wa€ when I was telling tbe story. I adapted it from a
ahorl story by the 'fapanese writer Haruki Murakami. I PROMISEto n^ei
its here soon, unless you all already know it'.
Also/ I wan! to dispute a certain ASF lenet. And lhat is, {henever she
won'! give you he! nurll3err tshe advice here is ro 6ay something along
the lines of, ,,I don,t glve ou! my nuniber to girls, because ro you
itrB ju6t anolher nuniber arrd you won'C use it,' or oharever. And, here,
you said lhats you don'l give out youri number !o gir16 who won,ts give
you lheirs. These responses (especially the srandaid ASF reeponse)
bolh sound a ]itt.le supplicating to me. The problen is lhat rhe ASF
response ASSWES that' she won,! call you and your responge/ while
funny, is also babyieh (lhough I etill like it). My response is !o
steal their framer "That's fumy, I don't give our ny numbers to girl6
either. My phone rings enough as ir is.,, (sometimeg r'11 make up a
cOT my nutdbe! f,rom a muuual frien'I, caLted ine the next day' apologized
left it on the machine !)
for not. givlng ne her number, and Ehen
StyTa wtlea€,
{
a uindol, oPens uP. I!
Mystely
lastg,
says that when you're
analfewish) . sitting
gB {a super-thin
tlre neal'
a mix of
I totally
I I
latin
me was a nelt spifl on Ev'ing thac
openedt the inalow. What opened its for I
\dhich is to find her core vatue and tshen poinE ouL how'
I'n doing,
ll'ith me'
t
then and there, shet6 feeliug tbat core value
right
I
I
Aryway, the window opened, and I knew right lhere Ehat I coutd hdve
he!. BUT, we were at a table wirh a bunch of people. I fractionatsed
and tsalked with lhe HB on my oEher side for a white. Then I relurneat
ny atterlt.ion to het. Holrever, the nreal was so tong t.hat afler a while
I felt that incredible connect.ion we made start to fade. (Or mavbe I
just got tired. )
So. what do you do when Ctte windox, opens and you're not. in a place
where you can go tor a *cfose?
Once it closes, I oflen feel like thingE someeimeg get awkward. What.
do you do AFTER lhe window closes to maintain and affirm t.he
conneclion and excilement you hadr so tha! i.t doe8n't feel like a
leldo!,n--1ike iC \ras ju6! a monent that passed?
AnonynnaustapLlaE,
StyJ.e tep7i.es,
you're creative here) , and have her play a role that would be t
associatsed witsh a fenate who voraciously enjoys sex Thi6 way you F
can't tose: either she lets go of } erself and gels Eo into lhe role
responsiwe'
r
tha! she actually enjoys it, or she ie just more involved'
I
and 1oud, and it's more fun for: Youl
T
I
SLyIe wtiEes, I
subjectr The WaY I EV t
t
I
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In re6ponse t'o five583, here's rLe new w a y I r m E V , i n g lhese days. r'm
not sure if itts Ehe way it's supposed to be done or even if it's new
at. at1, but it REAtr,y work6.
Here's a ecript from 1a6t night. And lhere's a question at the end. so
please read on:
I4e: But thattg not \rhat you real]y want !o do. That.r6 just one of many
things that vri1l give you lhe end goat you,re tooking for.
HB; What alo you mean?
flirling and
And, by the way, I don't saY bhiB in a sneakY way. I'rn
and what I'm doing '
EeaFing, and l,|e'!e boeh ln on Ehe loke
Ideaa?
Anonyrious vtlee',
older
*I'rn going !o alinner with tsonight who iE about 11 yea!6
a girl
I don't know
going to be a bunch of, people Ehat
than I am' llhere ale
out at
tntimldaEed buE I want tso Btand
ealing at her house ' I'm realLy
front ot her friends "
dlitmer anal altlact het an'l not appear stupid in
Style ,eP7!es,
Slylewiles:
Mysteryuseit to greot
for I
'v€rybody' have
personally neverus€'lit However'lve seen
Not evdrthingis
\Mong;it just m€sosthatifs
gfect andgottcnthenumbe!close,It doesn,tme6nthatyoute doinganything
witb Yoursarg€'
lot cDngruedt
themuritedotrmynumber.Thswayshe.lefinit€lygetsihemessage...brrtyouprobablyak€adylmow
this...
Style writes:
Hey Badboy,
outside
opiniononsomething,,,(tell you canjustgetin sosmooth,
funnystory)...,,
2. Whenshe'swith someone
else,thenit'sperfectto getanotherHB to walkby herto makeyour
my st-icking Poitlt I
I
I
that lrn really intso' She's got long
TonlghE, I waB \titsh a woman I
blackhair,abouEEhleeinchesEalferlhanme,andabeautifulbody' I
thal I atmost feel out of my
Eonestly, 6he looks so rnuch Like a model
sher6
problen) an'I I'm so Ehankfut tha!
league (antl herein nay be tne
to blov' i!'
into ne that I almosts ge! afiaid
a \dhile But'
she has a boyfriend leho she's been Beeing for
Anway,
though she loves hj-m'
he's avray fot six weeks, and she 1o!O!lStbats'
Eays thaE she could
he'E not' tshe guy she \tantss !o marry she alEo
up before sbe did
Dever be unfaitltful and woulct have tso be broken
says tshis is jus! anEi-slut
anything with someone ef,ser buc Mystery
from t"lystery' I'n glad someone
defense. Anylvay, oo tso lhe dictation'
you're a couple -- IOI #2.) Dude, she,s praying wilh your shoe and
leaning over to touch your knee (IOI #4 and 5). when I cane out of rhe
showerr and noliced her sitting in the corner, I noticed: Etrere's that
come back over and have rhose feelings that nothing happened. She
I happen.
cloae (say
she,s
to louch your knee wilh her hand. She Bat with you on lhe couch and
listened !o your mu€ic and sharied time with you. I winged you/ I
lhink, wonderfully, brrnging up che sublect of sex and
boytriend-blasling, and then leaving and taking a real-]y 1on9 shower.
How did you keep it going rrhen the sexual energy--I could smell the
pheromonesr man.
There was nolhing wrong rith Ehis ee!: you went all the way ro rhe end
right Lhere. Her bf i6 gone foi six \,reeks; she doeEn't know how she's
going to survive for six weeks; she,s ralking sexual. Dude, i! was SO
I norey. You shou.ld slao yourself: you were rhere. sl-e came over.
Do you know e,hat I would have done? I have a loofa sponge. when I was
in the shower, I would have said: ,come into lhe bathroom with ne.
TrLp v.',r <hi Yf ^rl .-- - ----t
grea!. Irm going to rub you down wiEh my loofa sponge.' Would she have
lurned you down? No, because you,re a cool guy. You could have said,
ril doesn't have lo be sexual if you dontr want il lo. It's a great
feeLing.
Bholrer. Yoil have the gutg to apptoach, bo make tshe moves I lo go eee
Dnde' take your re!'rardl" (end of
!hem? to get then over to your house'
dj.ctationl
Btyle reElronda I
I took a novie of us. she said, "What should we do'r I 6aid, rcome
here.'r And kissed. l knew il was already on, so ended up wilh Lhe
_ t - ir d . r.lio a
new variation of Riker's thr.ee rules: lhe lhree rules lakea{ay. I lold
her the first two ru1es, and then she diecussed not wanting to
actually go all lhe way. So 1 said, okay. We fooled around some nrore,
then she a6ked, "What lras the t.hird rule?" Il was beautiful, because
its lel me know sbe was ready. I told her, and she said, rrThose are
Bu! when I left this morning, I realized: Thal HB9 was jusl ltaiting
Anonyfroug wrLEea,
Eubject: Re. Left brain - Right brain. Very long. Good read.
style replies:
No, it totally applie6. Here's hovt I use it. wben {e're lalking about
pick them upr turn them over, and look at her palms. I lell her how
the left hand i6 conlrolled by the right brain, and how the right
controlled by tshe left brain, and thatrs where 1ogic, reason, and
(1igttt ki[o on
lailguage look. And when I look c1o6e1y at her hands
palms here) . Ehe, lj-ke noet people, ha6 deePer and nore complex lines