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finding Hitler. Get the fuck out of here.

They found Hitler. He died. Yeah.

I mean, not really. We don't know. Right? This isn't like ancient aliens.

They declassified a bunch of documents. Both the Israelis, the British, and the
Germans and Americans in the past 20 years have been consistently declassifying
documents. And there were a bunch of specifically FBI documents that we were
spending millions and millions of dollars actively searching for Hitler after the
war, as was.

Really? Yeah, like, millions of dollars. Hoover was like, no, send more FBI agents
to South America, to North Africa, go to the Canary Islands, go to Spain trying to
find out where this guy went. Tons of real FBI documents with real leads, with real
informants, some first eye accounts saying that they physically.

So anyways, that's the show, is us trying to find out. Sift through reality and the
fiction of the allure, the mystery of that asshole.

PART 2

. So what's the official story? The official story is that he killed himself.

Right? He killed himself in the bunker with Braun. Yep. And is there any
photographic evidence of his death or anything? So the Russians got the body and
they got his skull.

And when they brought it back to Moscow, nobody has ever been able to independently
verify who and what this body is. They let one genetic test occur and the body with
the bullet holes that they said was Hitler and have said, and that's the narrative.
That's the story.

That's all the eyewitness accounts that are even in the vicinity of collaborating
with each other and cooperating each other's testimony, like, the closest version,
because none of it seems to be very accurate, is that here's Hitler's skull. And
when they did the genetic testing, it's that of a 35 year old woman. So they're
like, oh, well, this isn't Hitler.

But they've said for the past 80 years that this is Hitler.

PART 3

There was no absolute proof. No. And a lot of Nazis did escape and go to South
America, the majority of anyone with power.
The Nuremberg trials were not a winch hunt, but it was to close a chapter so we
could start moving forward with communism. That's what it was. The threat of
fascism, the threat of Hitler, the threat of killing all the Jews, the threat of
world domination by the Nazis.

That threat's gone. What's the next threat? Communism. It's communism.

Right? So that had to be a closed chapter of our history so we could focus our
resources and our efforts to what inevitably was going to. I mean, the wall goes
up, we have east, and, you know, we're already looking at mean, this happens almost
overnight, right? Very quickly, when Patton's like, no homies, we need to go all
the way to Moscow. This is not the end of our war.

And we didn't listen to him. We then have been fighting communism for the past 75
years. So the ones with power, that went to South America, I know a bunch of them
went to Argentina, but they think they went to Honduras and a few other places.

Where do they think they wound up? So what you had in South America, both Chile and
Argentina, back to back, had fascist regimes. You had Peron, who was part of the
nazi party, starting all the way back into the mid 30s, he's the president of
Argentina. So the Red Cross, there was about three different rat lines that guys
were able to successfully get out of Europe into.

And these are. There's no question that we're talking thousands, if not tens of
thousands of high ranking Nazis made it there. Tens of thousands.

And I'm not talking, like little soldiers. I'm talking high ranking Nazis,
officers, guys like Joseph Mangelay and Adolf Eichmann. I mean, these are the most
disgusting, despicable humans to exist at the time.

If Hitler is dead

You have blue eyes, Joe. Or you have brown eyes.

Let me see if I can make them blue. Oh, wow. And then take twins and start
torturing them to see if one would feel the pain.

That's Joseph Mangele. I mean, that's the guy that then, in South America was
helping high ranking Argentinians have abortions. And he set up.

Have you seen the movie Colonia? About Colonia Dignadad, which is, if you're
listening right now, almost warn you not to google it, because it was a torture
camp that was started by Joseph Schaefer, a Nazi, and Joseph Mangele, the doctor of
death that escaped trial in Nuremberg and made it, on the behest of Perrone, into
Argentina. He set up the hospital at Colonia Dignadad, which was another safe haven
for more Nazis in South America. Goldomair and David and Ben Gurion, the presidents
of Israel, they took the gloves off, and they were just sending assassins to try to
find these people and kill them.
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But what you got in South America were isolated german only communities you could
go into. Barloti, Argentina. And I'd be like, what else? Dias migos.

And they're like, Guten Morgan. I'm like, oh, yeah. I meant, good morning.

Yeah, sorry. It's 2017, right? I thought we spoke Spanish here. So in 2017, you
were there and they were speaking German.

Yeah. Whoa. Well, I might look more european than I do.

So it's just them seeing me walking down the street and be like, wow. Yeah. And
there's tons of communities.

I mean, if you go to Colonia Dignadad, which is now called via Bavaria, the
bavarian village, it is only German. In the center of Chile, in the mountains of
you, there's no Spanish being spoken there. It is exclusively German.

And these are descendants of Nazis, powerful Nazis. Holy shit. And this is going on
right now? Yeah.

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What are these communities like? I mean, what's their mean? They're pretty white.
Yeah, but are they. Do they espouse nazi values? Not openly.

So, Colonia digna, dad. If you look at the second generation, there's a bunch of.
It was a huge problem for Chile that they tried to hide for years, and they got so
much power from the torturing that they did at colonial Dignidad on a whole bunch
of other high ranking south american dictators that they are almost untouchable.

And you'd blow your mind if you look into this, Joe, you'd love it. But the second
generation, the kids, like, the grandkids, sometimes they're even more fanatical
than the original generation. Have you ever seen this where if somebody's away
from, like, when you travel abroad, man, it's so cool to get into the culture and
get into the food and get into the, like, you're dancing this style and you love
the flag, and you're like, oh, I'm going to go to a soccer game because we don't go
to soccer games in America.

And then I'm going to go. But then maybe after, like, two months, you kind of miss
home. And then, like a year, you really miss home.

And then ten years, you really, really miss home. And you see the same thing in the
United States where it's not really a perfect assimilation, it's not the melting
pot, where you see generations that are espousing to be more, like, their ethnic
heritage than they are american. They're flying the irish flag, and, like, I'm
irish.

Well, it's just times 1000 with these communities because they're exclusively
german. Wow. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Kind of weird. So exclusively german and really missing. So 70 years later, the
second generations I was talking about, some of them came to the United States and
were high ranking white supremists that are now in jail, in prison for their racial
crimes.

And they came out of South America. They came out of colonial dignidad. They came
out of Bareloche, they came out of Portoba.

They came out of missiones. They came out of. Yeah.

Wow. It's crazy. So that's the show.

Hunting Hitler. Fucking amen. How many people are we talking about, all told in
South America that come out of this? I mean, tens of thousands went there.

But how many german communities, and how big are they? We maybe have 50 german
communities. 50? How many people? If you had a guess, a few hundred thousand. Holy
shit.

A few hundred thousand descendants of nazis. Wow. And, man, it's weird when you
walk into somebody's parlor and it's like you're stepping back in time into Europe.

It's 2017, and I'm walking in Buenos Aires, Argentina, into somebody's parlor, and
all of the tile is european, and all the style and all the art is very german. We
have, like, deers and not, like, red stags. We're talking german.

Everything. Things that Hitler loved, and that's the style and that's everything.
And then they come out and, like, with white gloves, they're holding their
grandfather's memory box, and inside of it are his war medals from when he was in
the SS or when he was.

And it is the respect. I don't even know the it's like this is a gift from the pope
that they're holding in their hands. White gloves.

No, I can't. First of all, Tim can't touch it, but I can appreciate it. And then
they tell me the story of every single one of these things and how he got there and
how he then went and worked for the Buenos Aires news.

You can't touch anything. No, they wouldn't know because I come. You're dirty.

I'm dirty. Dirty american. Look at these.

You're too brown. Yeah. Fuck, man.

So we followed the first two seasons. It was really just unraveling the rumors of
what happened to Hitler. The third season was my favorite because I actually got to
do real work.

They said, okay, I got the second season, I got to bring in more special forces
guys, CIA targeter Nadia, who helped my unit kill Zarkawi in 2006. This is the team
that is now looking at real evidence, trying to figure out, okay, how did we find
bin Laden? How did we find Zakar Zarkawi? We looked at their associates, and we
looked at how they moved. We looked at how they communicated.

We looked at what routes they were using to get to and from places. And then we
just started tightening the noose. And that's exactly what we did in this third
season was, okay, let's start following the Adolf Eichmanns.
Let's start following the Joseph Mangeles, and let's start following the
Scorzzynskis. Hitler's personal bodyguard. That was a colonel in the SS that went
on to work for everybody after the war, fighting.

I mean, fascists do not like communists. So this guy was working for everybody to
include the CIA. Fighting fascism in South America or fighting communism as a
fascist in South America in the.

Whoa. Creepy stuff. Whoa.

Yeah. Hunting Hitler. Are there any legitimate eyewitness accounts of Hitler in
South America or potentially legitimate? Absolutely.

Potentially. Whoa. Yep.

Eyewitness accounts. I saw him get off a boat. I saw him meet here.

And if it was just some person saying it, it's almost meaningless. Right. But if
you look at the context of who this person is, the wealth that they have that they
shouldn't have.

Can you explain how you got so rich in two generations? Your grandpa got here from
Germany in 1946. That's weird. And he's on a legitimate visa with an argentinian
passport.

Also weird. And now he's a war refugee that's now worth millions of dollars. How
does this work? And then this is the hard part.

People want to be connected to significant events, and especially in small rural


areas. Of the world, developing areas, there's so little happening. They want to be
attached to something massive.

And, like, the fact that they saw a uboat land on this beach and the hatch opened
and these cars were sitting there and they were doing Morris code. And this guy
gets off and he had this little mustache. You're like, uboats can't beach.

That's not how that works. Right. But you know what they're trying to do? They just
want to be connected.

And now we're removed 70 to 80 years from the facts. It has been painful to try to
use real science, real investigative tools, to try to sift through this lore. What
do you think happened? I mean, you've been studying this for how long now? Three
years.

Three years, yeah. If you had a guess, if you had, like, a million bucks, you got
to put it on one side or another. Did he go there? Yeah.

Whoa. Jesus Christ. I would say, man, that's the first time I've ever said it flat
out like that.

What I want to say is, the way history is written is wrong. That's clear. There's
no way that we can say he died on this day.

This is what happened. Here is his body, and that's what the physical proof is for.
Sure.

The woman, that head that they were saying was Hitler is definitely not Hitler.
That's a fact. So they don't have Hitler's body.
So then our other option was, is it Ava Brahms? Did they just grab the wrong body?
Right. So there are still descendants of Ava. And we tried to have them allow us to
do it.

Then we tried to go through, like. And they can get DNA off of the skull. There's
meat on it.

It's like a tooth. Yeah. Okay.

But they wouldn't consent to it. So then we tried to do where people have the tree,
their ethnic tree. What is those websites called? 23 andme.

Yeah. There's, like, a bunch of them. We try to go that route, but they wouldn't
consent to it.

No. The Ava bronze family. They just want it gone.

They just don't want to. Yeah. They're super pissed that we even found them, I'm
sure.

Which was hard. Which was really hard. Hold them down.

Get them to spit in a bucket. Yeah, I know. Or pull their trash and pull stuff out
of there.

I would totally not do that. Definitely not do that. But that's how they caught the
Golden State killer.

Right? Was off a fucking cigarette butt. Yeah. They got dna off a cigarette butt.

So history is wrong. Wow. For it to be black and white like that and again, if you
go back to 1945, we needed scientists.

We needed every single German. Electrical engineer, mechanical engineer, aerospace,


anything. You're on the v two program.

We want all of you, because now it's a race. It's a race. We have the bomb now we
need delivery systems now we need to get to the moon now we need to.

All of those things are real time. It's a war, a war of dollars and a war of
science. And we got all those scientists.

Yeah. The Russians didn't. Well, they got some.

Some not very many. Operation Paperclip was what brought over what Werner von
Braun, who was. When you talk to Jews that were in Berlin during the time that
Werner von Braun was running his rocket program, there he would hang the five
slowest jews in front of the rocket factory in Berlin, just to give everybody
motivation to work harder.

It was a Simon Wiesenthal center said that if Werner von Braun was alive today,
they would prosecute him for crimes against humanity. He was a Nazi, straight up
Nazi. And people, there's apologists that.

No, no, he was a scientist. He was forced into doing like. That's like, okay, he's
a Nazi.

There's photographs of him wearing nazi garb, hanging out with Nazis. His rocket
factory killed Jews. These are all, all undeniable facts.
Except the war ends and they're not Nazis anymore. That's not how that works
exactly. But they were forgiven because they came over and contributed to our
rocket program.

I'm not that good of a human. I don't have that in me. I don't have that, like,
okay, you're forgiven.

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