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Sokha

1. Scan trading opportunities during Asian session

2. If there's a potential candidate, get up at London open and watch the market
3. Trade European and let trades carry to US session for my intraday strategy--daily income or short
term swing trade

4. Use daily for curve, momentum, and overall trend; 60 min for trend as well as supply and demand
zone; and 5/10/15 min for refining the zone to get in the trade--x-ray snapshot of the zone for unfilled
orders.

5. Sometimes just use 60 min for the zone if the zone is not too large. No indicators, just supply and
demand--looking for unfilled orders.

6. Trade with 2 lots, take 1st lot off at 2:1 mechanically, let the second run with target at daily, but
manage it on 15 min using manual technical stop if I happen to be in front of computer. If not, just set the
2nd target at daily.

7. Only trade with daily trending or momentum market condition for this strategy. Most of the time when
the levels are identified, just set and forget--If entering the trades at market orders, close the computer
and let the market does its thing--hands off--remove emotions of out the trades--discipline to follow the
rules and trading plan.

8. Close all open positions 30 min before related news event--this is a must for this daily income or short
term swing trade. Wait 15 min after news released if there's a setup and never trade news event.

9. Do not take resistances or supports, pivot highs or pivot lows--only fresh and authentic supply and
demand levels--unfilled orders

10. Only take levels created during European and US sessions; not Asian session.

Fri, 12/04/2015 - 10:55pm

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 gescher3

@SOKHA - I like your strategy, but I'm unsure of one feature of it. I get "curve, momentum, trend", etc.,
but what is "supply and demand zone", and what does "looking for unfilled orders" mean? Where can I
see these orders? I don't have a MetaTrade account (yet). Are they available there? Thanks in advance
for your help. - Gus

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 8:09am

Toti

Nice info Sokha, Can You explore more about "No indicators, just supply and demand--looking for unfilled
orders".
How can i see them in the chart?

Thank you.
Hernan

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 11:23am

Sokha

@Toti--

If I explain, it just causes more confusion and creates more questions. Send me your email, and see what
I can do. Lol.

Sokha

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 10:44pm

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 FALCON TRADER

what indicator am i using for supply and demand?

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 3:28pm

Sokha

I do not use any indicator or oscillator on my charts just price actions at the moment. Everything I'll need
to know is on the charts.

Sat, 12/05/2015 - 4:15pm

kasttt

I'm going to try to incorporate #10 to refine my strategy. Thanks Sokha~

Wed, 12/30/2015 - 9:08pm

baughsten

I'd like to know how to see supply and demand also. if there are no indicators to be used then the info
must be right there on the chart.

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Wed, 12/30/2015 - 9:15pm

ForexEndeavors

These are my actual charts and what I look at each day. I do not use any indicators just Fib tools, vertical
lines to mark out the times of the day and horizontal lines to mark support and resistance.

I have been following the cable. I normally trade the fiber but It has been ranging for the last few weeks
and will continue to do so until the cable gets back down to its march 2015 levels.
looking at the day chart. there is a low low pivot in march 2015
looking at the 4 hr chart the fib retrace matches the channel from the day chart
Day chart and 4 hr chart are in a down bias...lower highs, lower lows
Vertical lines on my 1hr chart mark Midnight GMT, 7am and 9am GMT (London Open Range)
1hr chart the market is ranging, consolidating. It is going to move pretty soon up or down.
If down It will seek the previous march low. I called this out 2 weeks ago.
If it goes up it will seek resistance levels and Fib Retracements from the most resent highs.
I was expecting the market to move down, like it did today, only I thought It would move yesterday. I had 3
sell limits that hit yesterday with a 60 stoploss and almost hit the stop loss. I closed them today for a total
of 128 pips.

Thu, 12/31/2015 - 12:41pm

reallytwisted

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Sokha,is the Supply and Demand that you use the same one that OLT teaches?

Sat, 01/09/2016 - 7:32pm

Sokha

@reallytwisted--

What is OLT? May I list some of my credential before answering your supply and demand questions?
This will help you why I choose supply and demand as my trading tools box. Not every supply and
demand works, but if you use them at the right context of the market conditions. You will be surprised.

I learned my supply and demand and its structures from Online Trading Academy's instructors Gabe
Velazquez and Bachir Chayaa, swing trade strategy from Sam Evans and Short term trade strategy from
a combination of Sam Seiden, Justin Krebs, and Gabe Velazquez (I don't think Sam Seiden teaches
anymore), and technical analysis such as trend lines, previous support becomes future resistance, ABCD
structures, Fibonacci retracement and its extension, Gartley structure, and wave count from Market
Traders Institute, MTI.

Now, I use the above instructors' teachings and combine their techniques to make it my own to fit my
trading style--I have developed swing trades, Short term or intraday, and 10 pips strategy by accident
using the Beeline during Silver hive to accomplish the tasks. It seems like 3 strategies, but to me it is just
one--contextual. Once you understand the context of the market bigger picture, everything else just
supply and demand to get in, but you want to use them in the right context of the market conditions.

When I listed the instructors' names as my instructors above. I mean I spent nights and days studying
their setups and strategy. Not the instructors I just happened to hop on the XLT or watch on the archives
for a few months. For example, I had Sam Evans for 3 times on site and watched him on XLT constantly.
Snagit his presentations and slides, and then study his techniques back and forth for additional 2 years
before I felt comfortable using real money. Now, I just trade his style in my retirement account with
Tradestation. We become good friend, now.

It's worth my time to study and very interesting as well. I am addicted to it, now.

Hope this answers your questions,

Sokha

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Sat, 01/09/2016 - 9:47pm

Chuck C

You talk about unfilled orders. I have noticed that price will often move back into a specific range one last
time before moving on. Certain types of breakouts do this as well as some corrections. Is this what you
are referring too? As you know I traded the Eur/Aud last week off an entry signal, but since I was really
not trading the cross chart itself, I wasn't anticipating this move back.

Sat, 02/13/2016 - 1:26pm

Chuck C

Sokha, I was also wondering if you could elaborate on supply zones.

Sat, 02/13/2016 - 3:09pm

Sokha

Supply and demand is the OTA rule based core strategy, which has at least 10 odds enhancers to qualify
the level. We can not just trade base only on supply and demand, it needs the others such as profit
margins, freshness, and authenticity...just to name a few. Most importantly is the market context, I could
take the supply and demand levels that score 8-9 out of 10 as long as I am in the right context with the
freshness and strength of the move. My level will have a better chance of working out.

The reason why the prices come back to the level the second chance and move away from the level is
that there's so much supply and demand imbalance at that level--there's still some of the unfilled orders
has not absorbed yet. The rule of OTA allows to take the second bite of the apple; however, my rule is to
take the fresh only. I will go somewhere else to look at other pairs after that. If you go back and look at
the level on the chart below, the price did come back the 2nd time as you can see there's so much

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unfilled orders there. The 1st retracement could not even penetrate 25% of the unfilled orders; thus,
there's a lot of stack of unfilled orders left there.

Most of the time when there's so much unfilled orders at the supply level, the institution will sometimes try
to push the price up to that level, so they can get their unfilled orders filled before going their way. That's
why you will normally see the prices just pierce the daily and weekly levels before it turns. Those are
where most of the orders usually at. That's why Steve Mauro--Beat The Market Maker likes to use the M
and W at the high of the day or high of the week. That's why trend sometimes work because those are
the market speculators' trend; not market makers' trend. They usually take 3 swipes before reversing the
trend.

I rarely trade with trend, because those are not a low risk and high reward trade IMO. You can put any
indicator in the world and tell me where will you get in the market in the chart below. I got in when the
price is approaching very fast, which I usually think like the cross country running to his finished line at
the fastest speed in the last few minutes, even seconds. By the time, he's close to the finished line at a
very fast speed. My supply does not has to be very cute to knock him off, because he will be exhausted
by then.

I guarantee by the time the indicators tell you to get in such moving average crosses, the price is
probably reached at my 1st target as you can see the chart below.

I hope the chart below can explain what the supply looks like. Remember supply and demand is just the
entry, which only partial score of the whole picture. You can not just place trade because of supply and
demand. This is the problem with most new OTA students that I see. OTA is so expensive, most of them
will spent $50,000-$80,000, and still not profitable. I have to learn the market contextual from MTI and
use my supply and demand at those locations along with OTA odds and enhancers and its rule based
strategy.

Furthermore, you will see some of the MTI strategies post in this forum as well. Those are their generic
strategy, the FxChief Jared Martinez did not use all of those himself because I was with his mentoring
program. My point is be careful how people tell you, unless they are a student with that person. I only
take supply and demand base on the FxChief Jared Martinez market contextual. IMO, the FxChief takes
about 2-4 locations. I only take three, but I'll add my supply and demand and the wave count strategy to
create more entry, but only three locations of the market contextual. These 3 locations alone I can create
a few entries areas as long as there's unfilled orders regardless of the time frames.

Hope this helps,

Sokha

Sun, 02/14/2016 - 11:28am

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 Chuck C

Sokha, Thank You for the explanation. I have strategies that use this or parts of this but have no
understanding for why it works only what it looks like of a chart. Since i don't use indicators, I am able to
get in sooner and able to have tighter stops as part of my risk management. Since i don't have any real
understanding of who's doing what i rely on patterns on patterns and multiple time frames. I endeavor to
be better at qualifying my trades to be more successful. To this end.,Thanks again.

Sun, 02/14/2016 - 1:35pm

mass1225bold

Several have asked questions about determining or defining "Supply and Demand." This is a most
interesting topic to me. We all appreciate your discussion and info on this matter. Let me try to restate, or
provide another prospective on this topic. Please clarify, correct, or amplify on any of my observations.
Based on your chart, "Supply Zones or Levels" generally tend to be near the highs just below some
resistance level. I assume this could be in any time frame (M1 - MN). I also presume when you use the
term "contextual," your referencing the use of multiple time frames (TF) across or with each other. If these
assertions are right, which TFs do you find are the best TFs to use, which TF you find best to define
"Supply and Demand," and which TF are you using primarily monitor everything making your buy/ sell
decisions. Of course, I fully understand your definition would change if trading "Short, Intermediate, and
Long term" depending on your definition. Keeping all of this in mind, it's only necessary to briefly
elaborate on your best, well liked and highly successful trading TFs and Trade Time perspectives. Thx.

Sun, 02/14/2016 - 10:49pm

mass1225bold

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Sorry, the previous comment and question was for Sokha, but everyone else please feel free to provide
your comments, ideas, and questions as well.

Sun, 02/14/2016 - 10:53pm

Sokha

When I talk about the market contextual, I usually talk about the ABCD structures of the larger TF, and
then I go to my lower TF and identify the S/D there. Please ignore the MA and indicators. I don't use them
anymore.

Mon, 02/29/2016 - 7:29pm

hakchinoy

Supply or Resistance zones are synonymous; and Demand or Support zones are synonymous. See the
following for more info: http://instaforexpips.com/trading-price-with-supply-demand-strategy/

S/D gives us a clue regarding the direction of a move. Alignment helps us to time out entries/exits better:
areas of confluence tend to work better.

Key R-/S-zones off higher TFs tend to be stronger. I prefer to focus on W1, D1, H4, and H1 (in that
order).

Expect to see bigger moves whenever price bursts through (a breakout) or bounces off (a reversal) a key
R-/S-zone off higher TFs.

Mon, 02/29/2016 - 7:31pm

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 Sokha

"Based on your chart, "Supply Zones or Levels" generally tend to be near the highs just below some
resistance level."

@mass1225bold--

It can, but not necessary. It depends if it is with the trend or at the end of the trend. If it is at the end of the
trend, it usually is. If it is with the trend, it is not. Below is the link for some S/D that I posted in another
thread.

https://apiaryfund.com/node/16661

OTA rarely uses support or resistance, so I don't know what it looks like. From the MTI R/S, it is usually
the accumulation of many candles--a lot of activities. That's not how we define S/D in OTA, but since I
don't know for sure. I cannot provide my inputs. I know the pivot high, pivot low, previous support,
previous resistance, supply and demand for sure because we use them all the time.

Hope this helps,

Sokha

Mon, 02/29/2016 - 8:02pm

Chuck C

"Based on your chart, "Supply Zones or Levels" generally tend to be near the highs just below some
resistance level."

I have three different strategies that use supply and demand levels. These levels don't always line up with
support or resistance. While it may be close in most instances, supply and demand levels can pinpoint

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with greater accuracy were price might go. Support and Resistance is more of a generalization.

The funny thing is that until Sokha told me about these zones I had no idea why my strategies worked.
The reality is that as long as they keep working it doesn't really matter. It is just nice to have an
explanation.

The good thing about these areas are that in a 120 pip range I can have a 5 pip stop loss.

One example might be a breakout short that pulls back up through support. You would not sell the retest
of support which is now resistance. You would wait until it was at a specific point about the 61.8 of that
current range.

Tue, 03/01/2016 - 10:37am

Sokha

Glad to hear that Chuck. Most professional speculators who are profitable traders with consistency have
similar story like you. They might use different terminology regarding their S/D. S/D existed long time ago,
but OTA just had their core strategy patent and built rule based how to define them. That's why it is so
different from other sources who claim they trade S/D.

Most of the time, when they said the prices were approaching S/D such as in forexfactory.com or other
sources. When I went and looked at the chart, it was not near what I would consider S/D in my trading. I
wondered why their stop loss was 100 pips to make 200 pips. That's 2:1. I could risk 35-45 pips and be
able to make over 200 pips with OTA rule based core strategy of S/D, lol! That's my swing trades.

However, I like my 10 pips stop strategy that I used for my Futures asset class for intraday-short term
swing trade for Apiary. It is easier to manage with the Apiary's way of how to manage the fund. I trade this
short term income trade during Asian session and London open.

Tue, 03/01/2016 - 11:08am

Nehemiah

I am going to check this! Thanks

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Tue, 03/01/2016 - 12:49pm

hakchinoy

"These levels don't always line up with support or resistance."

Actually, this can't be true mathematically by definition.

Let's not make S/D harder than it is.

First, a real-world treatment of the notion of R and S zones doesn't focus on specific price levels. A real
R-/S-zone rejects price: meaning we can identify key R-/S-zones on charts by the reversals that we see--
especially on higher TFs. By definition, a R-zone rejects upward moves; hence, the reversal (after the
price rejection) is a downward move. Supply zones do essentially the same thing (albeit for slightly
different reasons theoretically). Similarly, a S-zone rejects downward moves; hence, the reversal (after
the price rejection) is an upward move. Demand zones do essentially the same thing.

Second, supply and demand theory--in a nutshell--focuses on placing trades where the MMs are placing
theirs, and letting the MMs take us along for the ride. Please keep in mind that orders are pooling
whenever price isn't moving. So identifying S-/D-zones on H1, H4, or D1 charts is fairly straight-forward:
look for the areas on charts where consolidations tend to occur repeatedly.

We don't need any fancy indicators, or terminology to trade S/D. Everything that we'd need already is on
our charts.

Tue, 03/01/2016 - 2:27pm

Sokha

@Chuck C--

I agree with you on the tight stop, you can check this link for USDCAD that just triggered for long.

https://apiaryfund.com/node/16661

Tue, 03/01/2016 - 7:14pm

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 Chuck C

We don't need any fancy indicators, or terminology to trade S/D. Everything that we'd need already is on
our charts.

I agree with you on this but I think the idea behind supply and demand is simply a way of looking for high
probability areas from which to trade. S/d gives a method for analyzing support and resistance over time.
A systematic approach to try and classify the effectiveness of these zones. As you know, not all are the
same especially with respect to time. Many newbies could be profitable if they just got a better price or
were willing look at the lower time frames to limit losses.

Personally, I trade breakouts, I sometimes fade them and I also wait for price to return to its origin and
take it again. Yesterday I did this on both the Eur and the Gbp. I am not afraid to do battle if my risk
management is in order. Other times I like to set and forget if market conditions seem favorable.

B.S. or not, anything that gives me an edge bears consideration.

Wed, 03/02/2016 - 12:05pm

Sokha

Good job Chuck. I don't trade breakout, but I start to see it more often than not when I add more positions
to my trades once it triggered on smaller TFs. There are only 3 instructors at OTA who trade BO. I
personally knew one of them who happen to teach Futures asset class, but his pocket is way too deep to
sit for the retracement.

I will give you an edge for the BO to trade S/D:

1. Let the prices breakout--i.e., let the breakout happens and trades on its retracement
2. Look for S/D confluence with the previous support for short and previous demand for long, i.e.,
previous support will become future resistance and look for supply there.
3. If there's no S/D after the breakout, no trade, period! Yeah, sometimes it works, but we are dealing with
probability here.
4. You can use the Fibonacci retracement at 0.618 and 0.786 as a measuring tape.
5. Note: Not all the BO has a S/D zone

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Wed, 03/02/2016 - 1:23pm

Chuck C

Thanks

Wed, 03/02/2016 - 1:52pm

hakchinoy

Don't get me wrong: I deeply appreciate what Sokha has shared about his S/D approach.

"the idea behind supply and demand is simply a way of looking for high probability areas from which to
trade"

I agree. Those trades have higher probabilities, because "we're placing our trades where the MMs are
placing theirs, and letting the MMs take us along for the ride."

Thu, 03/03/2016 - 12:14am

edbernard

I just qualified for Gold I and found your brief on profitable trading very interesting Sokha. I keep my
charts uncluttered and only use the Bollinger bands and set up support and resistance lines to guide me.

In order to maximize price movement I experimented with using Buy and Sell limit stops. And if by chance
the trade went against me I closed it out with a small loss. However if it went in my favor, I made more
profit than if I used Buy and Sell Stops instead of Limits. I don't think that Limit trades are talked about in
these forums. Don't get me wrong, most of my trades are made using Stop orders. I am very selective
when I use Limit orders.

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I appreciate all the good advice I read in these forums especially by the more experienced traders.

I can hardly wait to get funded now.

Thu, 03/03/2016 - 3:42am

luc

I've been trying to figure out what this Supply / Demand thing is for a few a days now. Initially I thought...
'well it's all supply vs. demand' but it finally clicked I think when I read Sokha's comment about "unfilled
orders".
One of the occult (i.e. not so obvious) things in price action is the notion that for prices to trend we need
participation from BOTH bulls AND bears. How? Why would bears be needed for (or willing to help)
prices to go up? Why would bulls assist prices to go down? Well, they don't necessarily do so willingly.
The market is for the large part balanced between pressure from bulls vs pressure from bears. And some
bulls are strong (confident) and some are weak; same for bears. Some are long-term participants, some
short-term. But it is also unstable, so there are deviations from the mean. If the deviation hits the stops of
say the bears, they have to BUY to get out! And the bulls are very keen to see that happen and they will
also BUY to get in! That double pressure of keen bulls and weak, forced bears gives us a breakout. The
strong bears then wait for the market to reach a probable bull target (for the bulls to SELL) and double
their short-position betting on a re-test of the break-out point (the bulls who just at least lightened their
position are also waiting for that point, which creates a vacuum, until prices hit that to be able to get back
in at a decent price) so they can get out break-even. Having doubled their position, to get out break even
they now only need it to retrace 50% towards the break-out point, but can be confident of more than that;
chances are usually good it will do so. And of course, because this breakout pullback thing is so common
there are other bears only now getting in on that action. But if all this is happening in the context of a
market that favours the bulls, then the bears who are still in will be grateful for the final chance to get out
break-even and will BUY to get out.... and that gives the bulls their breakout-pullback-buy; the breakout
becomes successful and the bulls ( their stop is just below some prior swing-low, lets say 10pips below
where they entered at the breakout ) set their target at about 10pips or 20pips in order to have a positive
traders equation.
But had the context been in favour of the bears; say because last time we were around this price we
opened a very strong bear bar closing near its low and it didn't at any time poke above the entry point of
those bears at the time ( in other words those bears who already made money and would love to do it
again are still rubbing their hands with glee, in anticipation of giving it another go since their trend is still
intact ) and certainly didn't threaten their stop. Then we should expect the bullish breakout to fail.
Because we have now so much pressure from confident bears; and from doubting bulls; bulls who are
also smart and can see that yes we will probably test the high, but not likely get much past it.... yet. So
they get out with what they can; perhaps a scalp with a 1:1 traders equation. And the bears have the
trade.

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So, looking for where these unfilled orders are lurking helps us discover the state of the bulls pressure vs
bears pressure. When you see pivot highs than do not cross over prior pivot low / bear-breakout signal it
shows enthusiasm and dominance of one side over the other.
But also remember that things are quite elastic as well, stretchy; so support and resistance will not
necessarily look perfectly square. They tend to be skewed... in favour of one trend or the other. e.g.
Double-tops don't have to be perfect to still function as double-tops.

That story may be just a fairy tale, a myth. I can't prove it. But it seems to be a really useful way of looking
at ( Fibonacci ) price action.

Wed, 04/06/2016 - 3:27am

Sokha

Prices usually turn at the fresh and authentic supply and demand zones; not turn at random of nature. It
turns at the most imbalance of S/D level and has a higher probability of working out if it aligns in the
context of the higher time frames direction--the highest probability trade IMO. I prefer the S/D zones
created by the institutions' logarithm. The best levels are usually the ones created during the US and
European sessions.

For session income trades, I would suggest trading the 1st two hours of the session opens. Since Forex
is a non-centralized global market, do not "set and forget" for session income trades. Wait for price to
come to the S/D zone and execute using indicators such as negative divergence or candles confirmation
to time the entry. For swing trades, it is okay to "set and forget." Personally, I prefer to set the alert using
tradingview.com and then place the trades using confirmation entry such as the three bars reversal.

Thu, 04/07/2016 - 6:04am

hakchinoy

I'll also add that I like to pay attention to what's going on between the distal and proximal lines (when
price is in a S/D zone). That PA also can tip us off regarding the momentum of the move once the break
happens. If I happen to notice that the market has built up considerably more momentum, then I might
opt to "juice" my trade a bit more. :)

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Thu, 04/07/2016 - 10:45am

Sokha

I like to see the prices approach the proximal line with a very very fast move. This will create a clear path
for price to collapse as soon as it reaches the proximal line for sell short and vice versa for long. This is
good for "set and forget." If you choose #2 for entry with confirmation, you will miss this opportunity.
However, I trade on 60 min and 240 min; thus, I have enough time to place a trade once I receive the
alert.

I also use odds enhancers to score for either #2 entry or "set and forget."

Thu, 04/07/2016 - 2:14pm

hakchinoy

"I like to see the prices approach the proximal line with a very very fast move."

Me too.

Thu, 04/07/2016 - 5:09pm

Sokha

It clears all the unfilled orders for profit zone!

Thu, 04/07/2016 - 6:14pm

Ramesh

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Just entered Silver 2 today after struggling for one month. All advice for silver 2 is highly appreciated.
Have to learn a lot.
I love the concept being taught at silver 2 regarding control on ' Greed, fear, focus and hope' and to take
a balanced professional approach.

Fri, 04/08/2016 - 6:53am

Tareq

Hi Sokha

This is very interested topic, but in order to follow up with terms use, where can I find proper
documentation for Supply and Demand?

At least it will give me some sign before I enter a trade based on the strategy I’m using once the price
reached these zones.

Wed, 09/07/2016 - 12:36pm

Sokha

@Tareq--

Hope some of these links can help:

http://www.fxstreet.com/education/lessons-from-the-pros-201605030000

http://www.fxstreet.com/education/lesson-from-the-pros-stocks-201604260000

http://www.fxstreet.com/education/lessons-from-the-pros-forex-201604050000

http://www.fxstreet.com/education/lessons-from-the-pros-forex-201603290000

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http://www.fxstreet.com/education/lesson-from-the-pros-stocks-201603220000

Some of my threads in this forum:

https://apiaryfund.com/node/16661

https://apiaryfund.com/node/18408

Wed, 09/07/2016 - 5:08pm

Tareq

Many thanks Sokha, I will go through these links during the weekend

Wed, 09/07/2016 - 7:01pm

Prakash

Sokha, you rock!

Wed, 09/07/2016 - 8:30pm

Sokha

You also can youtube some of the OTA instructors mention in the fxstreet.com as well.

Thu, 09/08/2016 - 6:34am

findthetrend

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Thanks!

Thu, 09/08/2016 - 12:05am

Redbeard22

Thanks Sokha

Thu, 09/08/2016 - 7:40am

FXmasterthief

Be careful when the market reaches a S/R. Just cause it gets there doesn't mean that the S/R will hold.

Thu, 09/08/2016 - 8:07am

eyoekpenyong2

Very educative stuff I see. :)

Thanks Sokha !

Wed, 10/05/2016 - 8:54am

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 wastevewb

Thanks Sokha, Im sure to find this interesting as I also attended OTA (Futures).

Thu, 09/08/2016 - 11:09am

bent.nilsen4

thank you

Thu, 09/08/2016 - 12:26pm

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