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irakli RaribaSvili: veteranis statusi erT-erTi

yvelaze sapatio statusia Cvens sazogadoebaSi
„Cvens samxedroebs mivesal-
mebi da me minda yvelas mogilo-
coT dRevandeli dRe. vetera-
nis statusi, es aris erT-erTi
yvelaze sapatio statusi Cvens
sazogadoebaSi, vinaidan, statu-
si, es ar aris mxolod simbo-
luri statusi, aramed statusi,
romlis mTavari Rirseba aris,
rom veterani aris samSoblos
damcveli, samSoblosTvis Tav-
dadebuli, Tavganwiruli adami-
ani, romelic icavda da icavs
Cvens qveyanas. ase rom, me qeds
vixri TiToeuli veteranis
winaSe. kidev erTxel me minda,
Cveni mTavrobis saxeliT mad-
loba gadavuxado Cvens vetera-
nebs, yvela veterans, vinc gaiRo
sisxli Cveni qveynisTvis, vinc
icavda, emsaxureboda da emsa-
xureba dResac Cvens saxelmwi-
fos, Cvens qveyanas. iciT, rom
Cveni mTavroba, Cveni xelisuf-
leba maqsimums akeTebs imisTvis,
rom davafasoT Cveni veterane-
bis Rvawli, samsaxuri, maT mier
gaweuli urTulesi Rvawli, me
ase vityodi. Cven bolo 11 wlis
ganmavlobaSi araerTi mniS-
vnelovani siaxle SevTavazeT
veteranebs, Zalian mniSvnelo-
vani saqmeebi gadavuwyviteT maT,
ramdenime SemiZlia gavixseno da
CamovTvalo: iciT, rom daaxlo-
ebiT 10 wlis win veteranebis-
Tvis ar arsebobda sayovelTao
dazRvevis Tundac minimaluri
paketic ki. Cven dRes SeiZle-
ba amayad vTqvaT, rom saxelmwi-
fo, mTavroba 125 milion lars
xarjavs imisTvis, rom yvela
veteranis dazRveva iyos dafi-
nansebuli mTavrobis mier. amas
garda, ra Tqma unda, daaxlo-
ebiT 40 milioni lari ixar-
jeba omSi monawile veterane-
bis yovelTviur kompensaciaze,
daaxloebiT 25 milioni lari
ixarjeba sxvadasxva servisebis-
Tvis. aseve minda aRvniSno, rom es aris didi daxmareba, es aris od grZelia, Tumca, me vfiqrob, erTxel Cvens veteranebs mivu-
Cveni mTavrobis gadawyvetile- simboluri gamoxatuleba Cve- rom amiT mTavroba ki ar amayobs, loco dRevandeli dRe, - amis
biT, iciT, rom omSi daRupuli ni mTavrobis mxridan, rom maT me amiT xazgasma minda gavake- Sesaxeb saqarTvelos premier-
Cveni gmirebis ojaxebs yovel- mieceT yovelTviuri danamati, To imis, rom es aris Cveni vali, ministrma irakli RaribaSvil-
Tviuri 1000-lariani kompensa- kompensacia. me ar minda Camov- Cveni movaleoba, rom maqsimumi ma veteranTa dRisadmi miZRvni-
cia daeniSnaT. me ar vambobs, rom Tvalo da es CamonaTvali sakma- gavukeToT Cvens veteranebs“, - li RonisZiebis Semdeg, Jurna-
ganacxada irakli RaribaSvilma. listebTan saubrisas ganacxa-
* * * da.
Cven axla vmuSaobT imaze, „Cveni veteranebi arian Cveni
rom zogadad, Zalovani uwye- saamayo moqalaqeebi Cveni qvey-
bebis TanamSromelTa amJamin- nis. minda madloba gadavuxado
deli samsaxuri iyos Sesabami- Cveni mTavrobis saxeliT Cvens
sad dafasebuli, - amis Sesaxeb veteranebs.
sa qar Tve los pre mi er-mi nis- ... bolo 10 welSi Cven, SeiZ-
trma irakli RaribaSvilma leba iTqvas, dramatulad gava-
veteranTa dRisadmi miZRvnil umjobeseT situacia maTTvis,
RonisZiebaze sityviT gamos- iqneba es maTi socialuri dac-
vlisas ganacxada. vis garantiebi, Tu sxva pirobe-
minda, madloba gadavuxado bis gaumjobeseba. ase rom, kidev
Cveni mTavrobis saxeliT Cvens erTxel, minda yvela veterans
veteranebs da Cveni daRupuli mad lo ba ga da vu xa do. Cve-
gmirebis ojaxis wevrebs mivu- ni daRupuli gmirebis ojaxis
samZimro da vuTxra madloba wevrebs minda mivusamZimro da
maTi gmirobisTvis vuTxra madloba maTi gmiro-
pirvel rigSi, minda kidev bisTvis“, - ganacxada premierma.

saqarTvelom gaakeTa maqsimumi da igi unda yofiliyo yovelTvis qveynis, kanonis da

imsaxurebs kandidatis statuss
Cven viyaviT granadaSi, espaneTSi da me mqonda araerTi Sexvedra Cvens evropel
liderebTan, Cven sakmaod didi progresi gvaqvs, molodinebi aris, unda iTqvas,
sakmaod pozitiuri, - amis Sesaxeb saqarTvelos premier-ministrma irakli Rari-
baSvilma veteranTa dRisadmi miZRvnili RonisZiebis Semdeg, Jurnalistis kiTx-
vis sapasuxod ganacxada, romelic kandidatis statusTan dakavSirebiT arsebul
molodinebs exeboda.
„ar minda axla imaze meti vTqva, rac am etapisTvis aris mizanSewonili. me meq-
neba Sexvedrebi briuselSi, mivdivar briuselSi Zalian male da Cven axla aqti-
urad vmuSaobT komisiasTan da aqtiur komunikaciaSi varT komisiis Sesabamis
struqturebTan, bolo dazustebebi mimdinareobs ai axla da 8 noembers, noembris
dasawyisSi, me ase minda vTqva, noemberSi iqneba gadawyvetileba komisiis, reko-
mendacia da vfiqrob, rom saqarTvelom gaakeTa maqsimumi, Cvenma xelisuflebam
da ara, miuxedavad araerTi mcdelobisa, destruqciisa da sabotaJisa opoziciis
mxridan da sxva Sida Tu gare mtrebis mondomebisa, rom es procesi raimenairad
Seferxebuliyo, Cven, SeiZleba iTqvas, rom gavediT boloSi. am boloSi gasvla Cven
velodebiT imedianad, vinaidan, kidev vimeoreb, Cveni qveyana, Cveni xelisuflebis
damsaxurebiT, Cveni xalxis mobilizebiT da maTi nebis gamoxatulebiT, imsaxu-
rebs kandidatis statuss.
me kidev erTxel vimeoreb, ra Tqma unda, miuRebeli iqneboda sxva gadawyvetile-
ba, ise rogorc SarSan es iyo absoluturad miuRebeli, gaumarTlebeli da ufro
metic, iyo uxeSi Secdoma daSvebuli evropis mxridan im dros, magram me aRar minda
warsulze gavakeTo komentarebi, unda vifiqroT momavalze. bosnia-hercogovinas
aqvs statusi, moldovas, ukrainas, me yvelas madloba minda vuTxra vinc mianiWa
statusi da am qveynebs minda, warmateba vusurvo, magram Cems qveyanaze da Cvens qveya-
naze maqvs mTavari fokusireba da mTavari yuradReba gamaxvilebuli, ai, am damsaxu-
rebaze da am yvelaferze, rac Cven gavakeTeT“, - ganacxada premierma.
mTavari kanonis - konstituciis dacvis sadarajoze
„minda vTqva, rom es, ra Tqma unda, es aris samwuxaro faqti, vinaidan dadas-
turda, rom qveynis, Cveni saxelmwofos meTauri, qalbatoni salome dadastu-
rebulad aris konstituciis damrRvevi. es ra Tqma unda, me rogorc am qveynis
premier-ministrs da rogorc rigiT moqalaqes, namdvilad ar mixaria.
me ar minda, rom Cemi qveynis prezidenti iyos konstituciis damrRvevi an
nebismieri kanonis damrRvevi. imis magivrad, rom prezidents eCvenebina da
magaliTi mieca sxvebisTvis, sxva sajaro moxeleebisTvis Tu Semdgomi pre-
zidentebisTvis, rom igi unda yofiliyo yovelTvis qveynis, kanonis da mTa-
vari kanonis - konstituciis dacvis sadarajoze, amis nacvlad qalbatonma
salomem uxeSad, demonstraciulad, araerTgzis daarRvia konstitucia,
rac ara mxolod Cveni, politikosebis naTqvamiT da warmodgenili mtkice-
bulebebiT dadasturda, aramed sakonstitucio sasamarTlom daadgina da es
gadawyvetileba, ra Tqma unda, ar gadaixedeba.
rac Seexeba zogadad, Semdgom proceduras, mogexsenebaT, rom parlamen-
tSi gaimarTeba Sesabamisi procedura. Tavidanve vTqviT, rom vicodiT, rom
ar gvqonda sakmarisi xmebi, magram Cven, qveynis xelisufalni, mTavrobis
wevrebi, parlamentis wevrebi, kanonmdeblebi, ra Tqma unda, Cven unda viyoT
magaliTis mimcemebi. unda SevaxsenoT prezidents da yvelas, rom am qveyanaSi
dasrulda is dro, roca prezidents egona, rom idga kanonze maRla, konsti-
tuciaze maRla. es Zalian samwuxaroa. qalbatoni salomesgan, albaT dame-
TanxmebiT, rom Cveni moqalaqeebis nawils hqonda molodini imis, rom igi
Semoitanda qarTul politikaSi evropul standarts. evropuli standarti
gulisxmobs imas, rom yvela icavs kanons da konstitucias. Cven sanacvlod
amis sruli sapirispiro suraTi miviReT, roca qalbatonma salomem gviTx-
ra, rom is ar cnobs konstitucias. es aris samarcxvino faqti, megobrebo,
- ganacxada irakli RaribaSvilma.

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arc gadavdgebi, arc gadmovdgebi, ajagruli var!
sruliad saqarTvelo da
ara mxolod saqarTvelo elo-
da rogor dasruldeboda 16
oqtombers saqarTvelos prezi-
dentis winaaRmdeg dayenebuli
impiCmentis moTxovnis sakiTxi.
zogadad rom vTqvaT, saqar-
Tvelos, am cida qveynis pre-
zidentma, miT umetes, qalma,
ise rogor unda aiRos Tavze
xeli, rom qalmac da kacmac,
xelisuflebamac da xelisuf-
lebis opoziciamac, erTsulov-
nad moiZulon. is sxva sakiTxia,
rom e.w. radikalurma opozici-
am pozicia Seicvala da manam-
de Tu `lavrovis Snurokad~ da
fexmrudad moixseniebdnen pre-
zident salome zurabiSvils,
neba-neba daokdnen da bolos
mis damcvel advokatebad iqc-
nen. faqtad is darCa, rom saqar-
Tvelos prezidenti salome
zu ra biS vi li, yve la fer Tan
erTad, iseTive uprincipo da
uTavmoyvareo persona aRmoCn-
da, rogorc misi maginebeli e.w.
radikaluri opoziciis TiToe-
uli warmomadgenelia.
kon s ti tu ci o na lis te bis
xatovnad naTqvamia, rom impiC-
mentis instituts safuZvlad
udevs `keisris colis~ princi-
pi, rac imas niSnavs, rom umaR-
lesi ZalauflebiT aRWurvi-
li piri ara mxolod patiosani
unda iyos, aramed, eWvic ki ar
unda arsebobdes mis patiosne-
baze.
`keisris colis~ princip-
Tan dakavSirebiT mZime ki ara
umZimesi mdgomareoba gvaqvs, _
patiosnebaSi eWvi gvepareba ki
ara, dadasturebulad viciT
da vxedavT, rom saqarTvelos
kiserze xaTabalad moxveu-
li prezidenti patiosnebasTan
yovelmxriv mwyralad aris!
xalxis sibrZne ki gamoCn-
da, ar aZlevda xmas saidanRac
amo qe qil vi Rac re pu ta cia
Seryvnil gaqeqil qals, amito-
mac nacional grigol vaSaZes
utoldeboda `sasurvelobiT~,
magram iZala `erTiani naciona-
luri moZraobisadmi~ siZul-
vilma, daerTo erTi kacis xaT-
ri da gaiplaka prezidentis
sasaxleSi. gaiplaka da daije-
ra, rom xalxma xma marTla mas
misca da sakuTar nebaze kunt-
ruSis mandatic gamouwera.
im piC men tis pro ce du ras
faqtobrivad, TviT preziden-
tad wodebulma salome zura-
biSvilma gaukeTa provocireba.
sxva Sefaseba, ubralod, war-
moudgenelia, radgan igi yve-
lafers akeTebda imisTvis, rom
mTavrobas moTminebis fiala
avseboda. mTavrobas marTlac
mravali mcdeloba hqonoda,
rogorme es samarcxvino aqti
ar Caweriliyo saqarTvelos
istoriis furcelze, magram am
gaqsuebulma qalma mravalg-
zis dartyma-CxvletiT aiZula
mTavroba, rom konstituciis
upativcemulobisa da, Sesaba-
misad, masze gadabijebis gamo,
qveynis konstituciis Rirseba
daecva.
im dros, rodesac qveyana
isedac uamravi gamowvevebis
winaSe dadga, xolo qveynis pre-
zidenti enis tlikinTan erTad
sakuTari qveynis konstituci-
as gadajegavs, fexs aiSvers da
sirbils daiwyebs misTvis raRa-
ciT saintereso qveynebSi, ase-
ve misTvis saintereso pirebTan
misTvisve saintereso sakiTxeb-
ze saWoraod, prezidenti ratom
unda erqvas?
granadaSi, evropuli poli-
tikuri gaerTianebis (EPC)
rigiT me-3 samitis farglebSi
gamarTul Sexvedraze, Jurna-
listebTan saubrisas, ratom
unda dasWirveboda saqarT-
velos premiers, baton Rari-
baSvils axsna-ganmarteba, rom
saqarTveloSi arsebuli viTa-
reba evropel kolegebsac aux-
sna?
imaT vin ekiTxeba, CemTan ra
duRs, magram, rodesac msof-
lio arenaze gamosvlis pre-
tenzia gaqvs, raRacebi kiserze
valdebulebad gedeba...
yvelas kargad esmis am `qa-
lis~ garSemo da gamo rac xde-
ba, rom wminda samarTlebrivi
sakiTxia, magram Turme es `ar
aris lamazi~. ra ar aris lama-
zi, ucxo qveynis gavlenis agen-
tis impiCmenti?!
ra Tqma unda, ZaRli ZaRlis
Zvals ar datkvers, xan ula-
mazod moeCvenebaT prezidentad
wodebuli viRac salome zura-
biSvilis impiCmentis procedu-
rac da impiCmentic, xan Suris-
Ziebad da xan sxva, TiTidan
gamowovil aRqmad. xom ar jobs,
yvelam sakuTar mamidas mixedos
da sakuTar `tankze~ daetios?
prezidentis rangSi salo-
me zurabiSvils, roca misgan
mimarTvebi iyo mTavrobisad-
mi sadme wasvlaze, yovelTvis
Tanxmdebodnen, radgan evropa-
Si (aramxolod) mniSvnelovani
iyo prezidentis xmac, manamde,
vidre radikalurad Seicvlida
orientirebs da e.w. radikalur
opozicias mxurvaled Caexute-
boda ucxo qveynidan saqarTve-
los mtrad movlenil damri-
geblebTan erTad.
ranairi warmosadgenia, rom
romelime qveynis mTavroba mis
maginebels sxva qveynebSi Tavi-
si mandatiT Tavisive salanZRa-
vad agzavnides?
an ranairi sayurebeli da
mosasmenia, rodesac qveynis
prezidents mis qveynad wode-
bul qveyanaSi samoqalaqo omic
surs, `meore frontis~ gaxs-
nasac eSureba, amavdroulad,
niangis cremlebs Rvris cal-
mxrivad im daRupulebis gamo,
romlebic romelime cxel wer-
tilSi erT mxares warmoadge-
nen, vTqvaT, nato-ruseTis omSi
mxolod ukrainelebi arian
dasatirebi, israel-palesti-
nis xocva-JletaSi _ daRupu-
li ebraelebi, xolo saqarTve-
loSi dasatireblebis dasati-
ri ganwyoba sulac ar aqvs!
imTaviTve ise aJivJivdnen
sxva gavlenis agentebi da maTi
patronebi, TiTqos Sayiskvras
upirebda vinme salome zura-
biSvils, arada, yvela aJivJive-
bulma kargad icis, rom prezi-
dentis impiCmenti am SemTxveva-
Si, absoluturad samarTleb-
rivi mdgomareobaa, formalu-
ri, iuridiuli, magram mniSvne-
lovani procesi, romelic xazs
usvams kanonis uzenaesobas, kon-
stituciis uzenaesobas da imas,
rom kanonze maRla aravin dgas
qveyanaSi
gasuli wlis miwuruls
viTom patimar eqsprezident
sa a kaS vil Tan da kav Si re biT
isic ki moaCiqorTula, rom
karieris dazianebac ar aSinebs,
Tu es ziani misi Sewyalebis
gamo miadgeboda. unamusos gar-
da vin lokavs Tavis gadafur-
Txebuls _ `ara da arasodes!~
`ar damaviwydeba irina enuqiZis
Tvalebi~... da ucbad, gamomw-
vevad, simulanti paTologis
Sewyalebaze saubari, manamde ki
aranaklebi paTologebis Sewya-
leba...
is, ra dReSic saqarTvelom
Tavi Caigdo, im aSS-isa da mas-
ze daqvemdebarebuli im evro-
pis bralia, romelTac sakuTa-
ri `gansakuTrebulobis~ miTi
warmatebiT Caagones sabWoeTi-
dan ganTavisuflebuli qveynis,
erTi mxriv, WurSi gazrdil
moqalaqeebs, meore nawils _
WurszemoT myof, magram qveynis
gamyidvelebad dabadebulebs.
pirSi da e.w. kaxurad Tu
ver miaxli romelime ganar-
cisebuls imas, rasac fiqrob,
diplomatiur enaze xom SeiZle-
ba imis gagebineba, rom kargad
xedav xelisgulze dadebuls
_ e.w. koleqtiuri dasavle-
Ti, `saqarTvelos dauZinebeli
megobrebi~ wami-wamze igoneben
saTaviso msoflio wesrigsa da
wesebs da pirvelive saWiroe-
bisTanave `gemrielad~ arRve-
ven maT, magram Tu sxvas exeba,
vinc maT mibaZavs, damrigeblebs,
rogorc magaliTs, maSin maTgan
rasistic gamova, nacistic da
qsenofobic.
sajildao qvad rom aqcies
evrokavSiris wevrobis kandi-
datoba (mainc ver gavige, ra
TavSi saxlelad gvinda, raSi
wagvadgeba, roca vxedavT, rom
maT wevrebs am kavSiris dato-
vebaze uWiravT Tvali, didi
britaneTi ki ukanmouxedavad
gaiqca) saqarTvelos e.w. pre-
zidentic da qveyanaSi myofi
ucxo qveynebis gavlenis agen-
ti saqarTvelos moqalaqeebic
axla evrokavSiris wevrobis
kandidatobaze uaris Tqmis
molodinSi arian, rom mizezi
mieceT molotovis koqteile-
bis srolisa da sxva mavneblu-
ri moqmedebebis Casadenad.
arc erT mxares ar gaupro-
testebia, rom aseT valdebule-
bebs akisreben meorexarisxovan
qveynebs, sadac meorexarisxova-
ni adamianebi cxovroben; rom es
yuriT moTreuli valdebule-
bebi amaxinjebs qveynis konsti-
tucias. im konstitucias, rom-
lis abuCad agdebis gamo pre-
zidents vTxovT pasuxs. bolos
da bolos, prezidenti avia Tu
kargia, Cemia da, iqneb arc mov-
Txovo pasuxi, magram evropa da
aSS vin migdia, rom suverenuli
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saerTo gazeTi 3
(saxelad mainc) qveynis kons-
titucias mimaxinjebs, radgan
amis `dilixori~ aqvs. vin mig-
dia, rom Cems erovnul menta-
litets Seuracxyofs da Cems
erovnul interesebs ewinaaRm-
degeba?
ai, aq marxia ZaRlis Tavi!
qveynis prezidenti rom saku-
Tari qveynis mtrebs Seekvreba
(Sinaursa da gareuls erTad)
da sakuTari qveynis, amomrCev-
lisa da saprezidento skamze
damsmelis winaaRmdeg rat-
ratsa da tutrucanobas dai-
wyebs, me rom mkiTxon, misTvis
impiCmentis procedura ki ara,
impiCmentiT dasrulebac `Tama-
Si da mReraa~.
sakuTari qveynisa da xal-
xis mteri Rirsebadakarguli
prezidentisTvis impiCmenti
gana sasjelia?
„arsad ar mivdivar. ar
gadavdgebi, ar gadmovdgebi.
viqnebi iq, sadac viyavi, sadac
var mTeli cxovreba da ris-
Tvisac Camovedi, davrCi, quCa-
Si videqi Cveni evropuli da
demokratiuli momavlisTvis.
dRes erTi qviT mokles evro-
puli momavali da demokrati-
ac. qveyanaSi, sadac aranairi ba-
lansi arsebobas Stoebs Soris,
is qveyana demokratiul qveynad
ver CaiTvleba“, – ganacxada zu-
rabiSvilma.
ra Tqma unda, arc gadadgeba
da arc gadmodgeba manam, sanam
patronebi ar ubrZaneben, pat-
ronebma ki am etapze mainc, ra-
tom unda ubrZanon, morCili
tikina hyavT amoiRliavebuli...
qveynis prezidentoba wyal-
Seyenebuli qali quCaSi gamos-
vlisken mouwodebs xalxs, mag-
ram, netav vin xalxs, arafrad
rom agdebs Tu pirad nacseqta
da krebsiT lomjariebs? isic
ki veRar gauazrebia, rom im ga-
Wirvebulebs saTavisod ver ga-
mouyvaniaT xalxi, salomes sai-
dan da rogor dauxaton?
saSineleba yofila yovlad
uTavmoyvareo qali!...
nino dauSvili
 4 saerTo gazeTi
msoflios cxel wertilSi,
israelsa da palestinas So-
ris
arsebul mdgomareobas
„saerTo gazeTTan“ afasebs
politologi soso cincaZe.
- ba to no so so, erT-erT
in ter vi uSi am bob diT, rom
msof li oSi ti ta ne bis Ta ma-
Si mimdinareobs. israeli-pa-
lestina am „TamaSis“ nawilia?
sainteresoa, rogor gamorCaT
am er ik is sa daz ver vo sa ag en-
toebs hamasis samzadisi isra-
elis winaaRmdeg?
- es xom pirveli SemTxveva
ar aris. zustad analogiuri
moxda 1973 wlis 6 oqtombers,
rasac „gankiTxvis dRis omi“
uwodes. maSin golda meiris
mTavroba iyo. golda meiri
iyo legenda, es iyo israel-
is erT-erTi yvelaze Zlieri,
yvelaze Wkviani, yvelaze gam-
Wri axi pre mi er-mi nis tri.
me iri ara er Txel ga af rTxi-
les, rom si ria da eg vip te
TavdasxmisTvis emzadebodnen,
ufro metic, israelis agenti
iyo maSin egviptis preziden-
tis, anvar al-sadaTis nomer
pirveli mrCeveli. is ramde-
ni me dRiT ad re, lon don Si
saidumlod Sexvda israelis
generaluri Stabis maSindel
uf ross da pir da pir ga das-
ca kodi, rom am konkretul
dRes egvipte da siria Setevas
daiwyebdnen. Tumca, ar daij-
eres, radgan maSin Tel-aviv-
Si fiqrobdnen, rom 1967 wlis
om is Se de gad ise da sus tda
da ganadgurda palestina da
ha ma si, rom maT aR ar hqon-
daT axali omis dawyebis Tavi,
miT ufro, egviptesa da siri-
asTan. Tumca, omi mainc dai-
wyo da sabolood, israelis
ga mar jve biT das rul da, mag-
ram Zalian Zviri daujda maSin
arabul saxelmwifos es gamar-
jveba. Seiqmna komisia uzenaesi
sa sa mar Tlos Tav mjdo ma ris
TavmjdomareobiT da am komi-
sis daskvnis Sedegad, armiis
dazvervaSi bevrma Tanamdebo-
bis pirma dakarga Tanamdebo-
ba. saboloo jamSi, legenda-
ruli bebia goldac, rogorc
mas israeli moferebiT eZaxda,
iZ ul eb uli gax da, ga dam dga-
riyo.
analogiuri mdgomareobaa
axlac. Tanac, etyoba, neTani-
ahus mTeli yuradReba mipyro-
bili iyo Sida movlenebze, ris
gamoc mniSvnelovani momenti
gamorCa da israelis winaaR-
mdeg hamasis samzadisi uyur-
adRe bod dar Ca. ha ma sis Tav-
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das xmam de co ta xniT ad re,
mTe li ga re sam ya ro eW vis
TvaliT uyurebda neTaniahus,
radgan mis mier ganxorciel-
eb ul sa sa mar Tlo re for mas
demokratiis ukan gadadgmul
nabijad afasebdnen. neTaniah-
um miiRo qaRaldi, ris safuZ-
velzec, uzenaes sasamarTlos
aekrZala politikosebis mier
miRebuli kanonis Secvla, rac
aRiqves, rogorc Seteva sasa-
mar Tlos da mo uk id eb lo ba ze.
am periodSi ki, rogorc Cans,
hamasi gamalebuli emzadeboda
saomrad.
- ru se Tis mxri dan gav-
rcel da in for ma cia, rom
TiTqos ukrainam hamass iar-
aRi mihyida...
- es zRaprebia, amas ambo-
ben ruseTis „feikebi“. hamasi
SeiaraRebulia 1970-iani wle-
neTaniahu golda meiris beds gaiziarebs
bidan, yovelTvis hqonda iar-
aRi da dResac Tavze sayrelad
aqvs. arc TviTmfrinavebi da
tankebi aklda odesme. hamass
aqvs aseve, saidumlo miwisqve-
Sa gvirabebi, romlebic dRes
mTavar problemad iqca isra-
elisTvis. isaeli axla ukve
daiwyebs saxmeleTo operaci-
as, Tumca jer kidev ar aris
dad ge ni li im 120 mZe va lis
adgilsamyofeli, romelebsac
arabebi malaven. Zalian rTu-
li si tu aciaa, rad gan is ra-
eli cnobilia imiT, rom mTeli
Tavisi arsebobis ganmavloba-
Si mtkiv ne ul ad da ud id esi
pa su xis mgeb lo biT ek id eba
Ti Toeuli Ta vi si mo qa la qis
sicocxles. magaliTad, ramde-
nime wlis winaT israelma erT
Tavis datyvevebul jariskac-
Si hamasis 1300 „boeviki“ gac-
vala. axla ki situacia metad
rTulia, radgan sakiTxi exeba
ara jariskacebs, aramed, bav-
Svebs, qalebs, moxucebs... miux-
edavad imisa, rom dabombvebi
kvlavac grZeldeba, israelSi
daiwyo Zalian mZafri sapro-
testo aqciebi. mZevlad ayva-
nili adamianebis axloblebi,
me gob re bi, mSob le bi, Svi le-
bi... mo iTxo ven mTav ro bi sa-
gan, yvelaferi gaakeTon mZev-
le bis ga sa Ta vi suf leb lad.
Tumca, aq Seicvala erTi ram,
rasac, samwuxarod, Jurnalis-
tebi yuradRebas ar aqceven:
adre Tu yovelTvis adamian-
is sicocxle iyo prioriteti
israelisTvis - Tundac erTi
mo qa la qis si cocxle, dRes
uk ve ne Ta ni ah us Tvis pri or-
it eti ha ma sis ga nad gu re baa.
aseTi radikaluri cvlileba
moxda. neTaniahum da samxed-
ro eb mac ram den jer me pir da-
pir da Riad ganacxades, rom
mZev le bis ga Ta vis fle bis
operacia hamasis ganadgurebis
gegmas xels ver SeuSlis. ram-
denime dRea, israelis TviT-
mfri na ve bi fur clebs yri an
da mo uw od eb en Ra zas mo sax-
leobas, datovon teritoria
da samxreTSi wavidnen, magram
rogor unda wavidnen? es ase
advili ar aris. omiT, rogorc
yvelgan, aqac, yvelaze metad
mSvi do bi ani mo sax le oba
za ral de ba. war mo ud ge ne lia
hamasis sisastike da mis dacvas
axla veravin SeZlebs, radgan
iseTi civsisxliani adamianeb-
is ga mar Tle ba Se uZ le be lia,
rom le bic xo ca ven bav Svebs,
qa lebs, yels Wri an ad ami an-
ebs... gaeros generalurma mdi-
vanma gutereSma, Tavis mimar-
TvaSi mouwoda israelis Tav-
dacvis armias, meti sifrTxi-
le gamoiCinon am saxmeleTo
operaciis dros mSvidobiani
mo sax le ob is mi marT, mag ram
es praqtikulad SeuZlebeli
iqneba.
- Tqveni varaudiT, kidev
ramden xans SeiZleba, omi gag-
rZeldes da ra SedegebiT das-
ruldeba is?
- dRes uk ve msof li os
sa zo ga do eb as eW vi aR ar ep ar-
eba, rom is ra eli ga im ar jvebs,
ro gorc or jer ori oTxia
da am aze ar av in ka ma Tobs.
is ra eli ga ci le biT Zli-
eria SeiaraRebiT, gaw vrTni-
li ar mi iT. am er ik a da mTe li
ci vi li ze bu li msof lio maT
gver dSi da ud ga. ga im ar jvebs
is ra eli, mag ram mTa va ria, ra
mox de ba ga mar jve bis Sem deg,
an ro dis mo ip ov eb en am ga mar-
jve bas. yve la ze pe si mis tu ri
prog no ziT rom vi va ra ud oT,
yve la fe ri 2-3 kvi ra Si dam-
Tav rde ba. Tum ca, sa va ra ud od,
Se iq mne ba spe ci al uri ko mi sia,
da iwye ba sap ro tes to ga mos-
vle bi da ne Ta ni ah us er ac das-
rul de ba. be ni am in ne Ta ni ahu
ar is Ca uZ ir avi sam xed ro ge mi,
ro mel sac am de ni we lia ir Ce-
ven da ir Ce ven, rad gan is ra-
el is mo qa la qe ebs mi aC ndaT,
rom is iyo yve la ze Zli eri,
yve la ze Sor smWvre te li, yve-
la ze mtki ce ne bis yo fis mqo ne
po li ti ko si. Tum ca, im faq ts,
rom man saf rTxe ver Se niS-
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na da ga mo ep ara es yve la fe-
ri, sa va ra ud od, ar ap ati eb en.
mar Ta lia, es daz ver vis Te maa
da daz ver vis ara er Ti sam sa-
xu ri iyo pa su xis mge be li, mag-
ram, sa bo loo jam Si, yve la-
fer ze ma inc qvey nis pir ve li
pi ri ag ebs pa suxs. es da uw er-
eli ka no nia. Tum ca, Se saZ loa,
is ec mox des, rom mo sax le oba
ne Ta ni ah us gar Se mo ga er Ti an-
des.
1948 wlidan moyolebuli,
pirvelad israelis istori-
aSi, pirvelad israelis demok-
ratiul mTavrobaSi, moxvdnen
ultramemarjvene, ultrare-
aq ci uli sa su li ero par ti-
ebi, religiuri mimarTulebis
partiebi. ai, Tu SeginiSnavT
televiziiT, Tma rom nawnave-
biviT hkidiaT... maT adre mTav-
robas aravin akarebda, magram
imis gamo, rom neTaniahus xmebi
ar hyofnida mTavrobis Sesad-
ge nad, ko al ici aSi Se iy va na
es politikuri Zalebi, rom-
lebic manamde, demokratiul
is ra el Si keT rov ne bad mi aC-
ndaT. maT xels aravin axleb-
da, mag ram xe li suf le bas
axlos ar akarebdnen... ase rom,
Tu raRac ZalebiT neTaniahus
xalxi isev gverdiT daudga,
kidev ufro memerjvene gaxde-
ba mTavroba da es axlo aRmo-
sav le Tis er Ta der Ti de mok-
ra ti uli qve ya na, rom li Tac
dRes aSS da mTeli civili-
zebuli samyaro amayobs, SeiZ-
leba antidemokratiul ten-
denciebze wavides da amis pir-
vel nabijad swored damouk-
idebel sasamarTloze Seteva
ganixileba. dRes ki aSS-sa da
civilizebul samyaros sasa-
mar Tlos Za lis Se sus te ba
aw ux ebT, To rem ha ma si rom
ganadgurdeba, amaSi eWvi arav-
is epareba.
- aris saSiSroeba, rom es
dapirispireba religiur omSi
gadaizardos?
- es ukve didi xania, reli-
gi uri omia, mag ram Za li an
rTuli „vinegretia“ - yvela-
feri erTad aris: religiuri,
po li ti ku ri, sa mo qa la qo...
vinaidan erT qveyanaSi cxov-
roben arabebi da ebraelebi.
palestina xom damoukidebeli
saxelmwifo ar aris, avtono-
miaa! is aris israelis Semad-
geneli nawili. amitom, gar-
18.X. 2023 w.
kveuli gagebiT, es omi erTi-
anad yvelafers moicavs, Tum-
ca, mTavari ubedureba mainc
ur Ti er Tsi Zul vi lia. mar-
Tlac ro gor un da sZul des
erT adamians meore, rom mas
ToTo bavSvi mouklas sawol-
Si, is xom adamiani aRar aris!
amis win erTi arabi polito-
logis werils vkiTxulobdi,
sadac is ambobda, rom cxov-
re bam ise ga mo wu ra pa les-
ti ne le bi yo vel gva ri ad ami-
an uri grZno bis gan - li mons
rom xeli mouWiro da bolom-
de gawuro. sikeTe, saTnoeba,
mim te veb lo ba, kac Tmoy va re-
oba, yve la fe ri „ga mo iw ura“
am ad ami an eb is gan, aR ar af eri
dar Ca maT Si. gol da meiri
werda Tavis memuarebSi, rom
dad ge ba dro, ro ca ar ab ebs
Cven im aze nak le bad ve Zu le-
biT, vidre TavianTi Svilebi
eyvarebaTo... Tumca jer kidev,
ar ab ebs uf ro me tad sZulT
ebralebi, vidre TavianTi Svi-
le bi uy varT. am it om, ro ca
sakiTxi dgeba, moklas ucxo
Tu gadaarCinos Tavisi Svili
- is klavs ucxos. sanam aseTi
siZulvili arsebobs, veravi-
Tari gamarjvebuli ar iarse-
bebs.
- Tum ca, arc is ra el is
mxridan vxedavT nakleb sisas-
tikes. xom ar aris savaraudo,
rom man amis gamo is privile-
gia dakargos, riTac, rogorc
aRniSneT, dRes civilizebuli
samyaro amayobs da neTaniahus
amdenwliani Tavdadebac qvey-
nis winaSe, kraxiT dasrul-
des?
- aqamde, saamayo iyo, rom
mi ux ed av ad as eT gar moc va-
Si cxovrebisa, 1948 wlis 15
maisidan dRemde, israeli iyo
demokratiis nimuSi. israel-
is armia arasdros moqmedeb-
da veluri SurisZiebis prin-
cipiT, magram dRes pirvelad
Se ic va la re al oba. Tvi Ton
be ni am in ne aT ani ahu is to ri-
uli pirovnebaa, ibrZoda misi
Zma, ionaTam neTaniahuc. 1976
wels teroristebma gaitaces
TviTmfrinavi parizi-Tel-av-
ivis reisi da ugandaSi dasves.
swored naTaniahus Zma iyo im
jgufis xelmZRvaneli, rome-
lic Rame Cafrinda adgilze
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orbani ruseTis azrs rom uwevdes angariSs,
okupaciis xazTan misvlaze uars ityoda
gvesaubreba
politologi, fsiqologi
ramaz sayvareliZe:
_ batono ramaz, ungreTis
pirveli piri orbani samdRia-
ni vizitiT saqarTveloSi imyo-
feboda. rogor SefasebT mis
vizits?
_ saqarTveloSi movlenebs
yvela sxvadasxvagvarad afasebs.
opoziciam sxva veraferi moi-
fiqra da orbani ruseTis megoba-
ri da misi stilis mmarTveliao.
amis sapasuxod Semdegs vityvi:
orbani imyofeboda konfliqtis
zonasTan, sazRvarze, riTac yve-
laferia naTqvami. mogexsenebaT,
analogiuri vizitebis dros
yvelaferi winaswar igegemeba.
amitom mas SeeZlo konfliqtis
zonaSi misvlaze uari eTqva,
magram ase ar moiqca. is mivida
iq, sadac ruseTis danaSauli,
rusuli okupaciis faqti cal-
saxad gamoxatulia. iq misvla,
orbanis mxridan, piriqiT, anti-
rusuli nabijia iseve, rogorc
antirusul nabijad miaCnia
ruseTs rigi politikosebis
vizits ukrainaSi. putini maT
mtrebad miiCnevs. orbani ruse-
Tis azrs rom uwevdes angariSs,
igi okupaciis xazTan misvlaze
uars ityoda. ase rom, opozi-
cia tyuilad cdilobs am TemiT
manipulirebas. orbanis samdRi-
ani viziti qarTuli politikis
Zalian didi gamarjvebaa.
analogiuri iTqmis CineT-
Tan saqarTvelos urTierTo-
baze. opozicia maSinac igives
ambobda: CineTi avtoritaruli
qveyanaa da masTan urTierToba
demokratiis ukusvlaao. aseTi
Sefasebebis motivi is iyo, rom
sazogadoebas Cveni xelisufle-
bis sagareo politikis warmate-
ba uaryofiTad Seefasebina. aqac,
saxezea sagareo politikis war-
mateba.
Cven ar varT ganebivrebu-
li qveynebis pirveli pirebis
vizitebiT. politikaSi yve-
la detals mniSvneloba aqvs.
samdRiani viziti seriozuli
ganacxadia. CineTis pirvelma
pirmac igive mxardaWera aRg-
viTqva: rac unda moxdes, CineTi
Tqvens gverdiT iqnebao. zogma
qiliki daiwyo: sami dRe saqe-
ifod Camovidao. etyoba, isini
cudad icnoben ungrul samza-
reulos, romelic msoflios
nebismier samzareulos Tavi-
suflad uwevs konkurencias.
sircxvilia, roca qveynis pir-
veli piris vizits aseT CarCoSi
aqcev, TiTqos aq saWmelad Camo-
vida. am vizitis dadebiTi mxa-
reebi imdenac cxadia, mxolod
aseTi qilikiT mxolod Tavad
opozicia daakninebda. ramdenime
pozitivs gamovyof: mniSvnelo-
vania orbanis guliTadi damo-
kidebuleba Cveni qveynisadmi;
mas gambedaoba hyofnis, kritika
gamoTqvas kandidatis status-
Tan dakavSirebiT evropis qmede-
baze. roca boreli iyo Camo-
suli, velodi, rom bodiSs
mainc moixdida statusis
armoniWebis gamo. msgavsi
araferi wamoscdenia. anu,
isini TavianTi gadawyveti-
lebis monebi gaxdnen. rac
erTxel Tqves, imis gadaTq-
ma uWirT iseve, rogorc bevr
evropul saxelmwifos. evropam
miiRo es gadawyvetileba, ese igi
sworia _ aseTi konformistu-
li damokidebuleba bevrs aqvs.
orbanis mxridan dasafasebelia,
rom mas SeuZlia sakuTari pozi-
cia daicvas, Tanac yuradReba ar
miaqcios imas, misi gancxadebebi
fexis xmas mihyveba Tu ara.
_ evrokavSiris interesi
kavkasiis regions xom swored
saqarTvelos meSveobiT unda
daukavSirdes?
_ ra Tqma unda, evrokavSi-
ris interesi saqarTvelos regi-
ons unda daukavSirdes, Tanac im
pirobebSi, roca CineTi emzadeba,
tranzitis sartyeli aqeT gad-
moitanos. es aris CineTis tran-
ziti evropisken. amitom sru-
liad gaugebaria evrokavSiris
kavkasiis mimarT damokidebule-
ba. maT fonze orbanis pozicia
politikuri simwifis maCvenebe-
lia. sxvebi gancxadebebs erTma-
neTis mibaZviT akeTeben. xalxs
cxvris faras vadarebT-xolme.
aseTive mimarTebaa saxelmwifo-
ebs Soris. lider saxelmwifos
sxvebi cxvris farasaviT mihyve-
bian. dasafasebelia, rom orbanma
gadawyvita saqarTvelos mimarT
sakuTari pozicia mkafiod gamo-
exata. Cveni qveynis mimarT sru-
liad evropul gaerTianebasac
igive pozicia rom hqonoda, es
maTTvisac politiurad gaci-
lebiT momgebiani iqneboda.
gamoricxuli arc isaa, ameri-
ka satranzito derefnis `gafu-
WebiT~ iyos dainteresebuli,
raTa CineTi ufro rTul mdgo-
mareobaSi aRmoCndes. CineTi ame-
rikisTvis konkurentia. amerikas
SeuZlia CineTTan konkurencias
evropa `waaklas~. evropam saku-
Tar Tavs TviTon unda mouaros
da gansazRvros, ra awyobs da
ra _ ara. mxolod amerikis gamo
im nabijebis gadadgma, rac mas
grZelvadian perspeqtivaSi SeiZ-
leba ar awyobdes, ra Tqma unda,
miuRebeli da axlomxedvelobis
gamoxatulebaa. cudad aRiqmeba,
roca adamiani sxvebis saameblad
dgams ama Tu im nabijs da damo-
ukideblad fiqric ki ar SeuZ-
lia. am fonze ungreTi sasiamov-
nod gamoirCeva. Tqveni replika
sworia, evropam, wesiT, Zalebis
axal gadanawilebaSi Tavisi
adgili unda ipovos. jerjero-
biT amis niSnebi ar Cans.
_ oqtombris bolos evro-
ko mi si is ga dawy ve ti le bas
velodebiT. ra SeiZleba gaxdes
statusis armocemisTvis rea-
luri xelisSemSleli faqto-
ri?
_ irakli kobaxiZem araer-
Txel aRniSna, rom wina jerze
kandidatis statusis armoniWe-
ba politikuri gadawyvetileba
iyo. gadwyvites, evropis kontu-
rebisgan, sazRvrebisgan daSore-
buli qveynisTvis Tavi ar Seiwu-
xon. amas SeiZleba, isic daema-
tos, rom amerikisa da ruseTis
interesebSi ar Sedis CineTi-
dan tranzitis aqeT gadmotana,
evropam ki amas angariSi unda
gauwios. aqve SeiZleba gamoik-
veTos CineTis, rogorc dain-
teresebuli mxaris faruli,
wminda diplomatiuri aqtivo-
ba da moiTxovos, rom tranziti
xeluxlebeli darCes. CineTTan
kamaTis Tavi arc ruseTs aqvs da
arc evropas. es piroba meCveneba
imis garantad, rom kandidatis
statusis mopovebis ufro myari
safuZveli gvqondes.
_ saakaSvilma sazogadoeb-
rivi darbazi gaxsna...
_ es mxolod saakaSvilis
emociebze miuTiTebs. saqme isaa,
rom `nacmoZraobaSi~ mimdinare-
obs procesebi, romlebmac saa-
kaSvils gverdi auqcia. am misa-
Rebis gaxsna imis mcdelobaa,
rom miSam sazogadoebas da Tavis
partias Tavi Seaxsenos, cocxa-
li varo.
_ vidre miSa muzeums xsnis,
kezeraSvili kviprosze trenin-
gebs marTavs...
_ niutonma Seqmna Teoria
mizidulobis Sesaxeb, oRond
mas gamorCa, rom dedamiwis mate-
rialuri sxeulebis masis gar-
da, mizidulobis didi unari
fulis masasac aqvs. kezeraSvi-
lis fulis masam miizida opo-
zicioneri liderebi, Torem
kezeraSvili ar aris cnobili
politikuri aqtivobebiT, ramac
SeiZleba gvafiqrebinos, rom mis
politikur xibls ver gauZ-
les. jerjerobiT Cans is, rom am
politikuri Zalis koncentra-
cia kezeraSvilis garSemo xdeba,
rac imas niSnavs, rom `nacmoZra-
oba~ saakaSvilze male uars ity-
vis. ori xanjali erT qarqaSSi
ver Caegeba. saakaSvils am pro-
ceSi Tavis miznebis miRweva das-
Wirdeba. SeiZleba saintereso
da produqtiuli yofiliyo, mas
axali partia rom Seeqmna. Tumca
es SeuZlebelia. amas meti fiq-
ri sWirdeba. TviTon saakaSvils
da mis pirad garemocvas aseTi
resursi aRar aqvT. resursis
uqonloba Tundac imaSi Cans,
rom igi xan mowamluli iyo, xan
kvdeboda, xan demenciis diagno-
zi dausves, mere uceb gamokeTda
da aqtivoba gadawyvita. es xom
niSnavs, rom gawerili scenari
kargad daTvlili ar aqvs, mxo-
lod ganwyobilebebiT, emocie-
biT xelmZRvanelobs. sanam cixi-
dan gasvla undoda, samedicino
diagnozebis korianteli daaye-
na, mere roca Seawuxa im emociam
Tavis partiaSi liderobas kar-
gavs da rogorc politikuri
figura nuli xdeba, aqtiuroba
daiwyo. saakaSvili emociebiT
moqmedebs da ara strategiiT.
strategia rom gaaCndes, vime-
oreb, calke partias Seqmnida,
sadac misi Tayvanismcemlebi
gaerTiandebodnen da es axali
jgufi 5%-ian bariers gadaabi-
jebda. `nacmoZraoba~ bariers
xom miSas mxardamWerebis xar-
jze laxavs. gamoiyvanos miSam
Tavisi mxardamWerebi calke da
vinc uRalata, zurgi Seaqcia,
mSralze datovos.
_ xoStariam da jafariZem
Seqmnes saiti mona.ji, sadac im
xalxis mxileba moxdeba, vinc
ruseTisTvis sasargeblo saqmes
akeTebs.
_ es xerxi, ruseTis mtro-
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ba gaixados mTavar saqmed, vinc
Tavad ruseTze muSaobs, sakmaod
xSiria. amas Tavad ruseTic xSi-
rad mimarTavs. is pragmatikosia
da Tanaxmaa, ama Tu im jgufma
aginos, oRond is saqme gaake-
Tos, rac mas sWirdeba. rusuli
faruli specpolitikis stili
xSirad aris iseTi, rasac axla
zogierTi qarTveli politiko-
si amJRavnebs.
_ bolos, axali elCis
robin daniganis daniSvnazec
gviTxariT oriod sityva...
_ degnanisa da daniganis
gvari erTidaigive xmovnebsa da
Tanxmovnebs uyris Tavs, oRond
sxvadasxva TanmimdevrobiT. es
ise. jer verafers getyviT, rad-
gan ar vici, rogori iqneba ame-
rikis politika saqarTvelo-
Si. danigani ar aris im donis
diplomatiuri gamocdolebis
mqone, rom mis damoukideblo-
baze, miRwevebze vilaparakoT,
magram mas Tavisi mokarnaxe
hyavs. dasawyisSi degnanic, sanam
trampis politikas atarebda,
Zalian zomieri da koreqtu-
li iyo, baidenis politikis
gatareba rom daiwyo, utaqto,
aradiplomatiuri gaxda. misi
qcevebi demonstrireba iyo imi-
sa, rac qarTul suverenitets
sirTules uqmnida. baidens sxva
qveynebis suverenitetis wina-
aRmdeg nabijebis gadadgma axa-
siaTebs. gavixsenoT safrange-
Tis prezidentis, aseve Sarl
miSelis mier warmoTqmuli
sityvebi: Cvens suverenitets
pativi eciTo. ase rom, ameri-
kas mxolod Cvendami ar aqvs
aseTi damokidebuleba. es niS-
navs, rom sxvis suverenitets
amerika pativs ar scems. vSiSob,
vidre baideni xelisuflebaSi
iqneba, Cveni mimarTulebiT ara-
feri Seicvleba. mniSvnelovania
ara elCi, aramed xelisufleba,
romelsac is emorCileba. 2024
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brZola, rogoric axla israel-
sa da palestinas Soris mimdina-
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radgan gvaqvs gaxsnili informa-
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xdeboda vietnamis omis dros,
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wlis winaT. gamomdinare aqedan,
israelis Tema globaluri omis
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mniSvnelovania, rom es omi
SeiZleba gadaizardos religi-
ur dapirispirebaSi, rac yvelaze
saSiS elementad mimaCnia. erTia,
rodesac midis teritoriebis-
Tvis brZola, magram roca amas
ukve religiuri ideologia emat-
eba, es saSiSi precedentia msof-
lioSi. me vfiqrob, es aris hegemo-
niisTvis brZola. am SemTxvevaSi
- nato-s hegemoniis SenarCunebis
mcdeloba. vxedavT, rom dakvirve-
bis reJimSi arian nato-s hegemoni-
is mowinaaRmdege qveynebi: ruseTi,
CineTi, indoeTi... radgan mkveTri
poziciebi arc erTis mxridan ar
gamigia. isini mxolod akvirdebi-
an, rogor umklavdebian adamian-
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ebi xelovnurad datrialebul am
ubedurebas. veravin damajerebs,
rom `hamasis~ moqmedebebi gamoep-
araT mosads da amerikis centra-
luri sadazvervo organizaciis
agentebs. yvelam viciT, sadac aSS-
is interesebia, yvelafris Sesaxeb
informacia martivad xelmisaw-
vdomia maTTvis da amerikis inte-
resebSi israeli da palestina
namdvilad Sedis. amitom, es aris
Zalian cudi precedenti, rome-
lic daazaralebs absoluturad
yvela xalxs, oRond ara maT -
vinc es omi wamoiwyo.
israeli-palestinis isto-
ria 40-iani wlebidan, omis Sem-
dgomi periodidan, mas mere, rac
„gadaabares“ teritoria, saxe-
lad „palestina“, sadac xalxi
cxovrobda. zogadad, maRizianebs
nebismieri qveynis aRqma terito-
riad, radgan Cveni qveynis mimar-
Tac iyo amis ramdenime mcdeloba.
palestina aRiqmeboda ara
rogorc qveyana, aramed, rogorc
teritoria da imitomac moxda is,
rac moxda. TanavugrZnob im adami-
anebs, vinc am omisgan zaralde-
ba, paletinel da ebralel xal-
xs, radgan, arc erTia damnaSave
da arc meore. CemTvis is xalxia
damnaSave, visac viTom gamoepara
erTwliani samzadisi da amxela
bumberazma sadazvervo saagento-
ebma es viTom ver SeniSnes. imdenad
ukontrolo situaciaa, Tu sas-
wrafod ar daasruleben am oms, es
isev ebraeli xalxisTvis iqceva
yvelaze did problemad.
- rac Seexeba Cvens qveyanas,
garkveuli Zalebi siamovnebiT
Caabamdenen omSi saqarTvelos,
Cvenma xelisuflebam rom Tun-
dac erTi patara Secdoma dauS-
vas. rogor fiqrobT, aris omis
dawyebis safrTxe saqarTvelo-
Si?
- mas Semdeg, rac damoukideb-
loba movipoveT, Cveni qveyana mud-
mivi safrTxis qveSaa, Tumca, es ar
niSnavs, rom unda gveSinodes. es
niSnavs, rom qveyanam Tanmimdev-
ruli, swori politika awarmo-
os. unda gvqondes dalagebuli
urTierTobebi mezobel qveyneb-
Tan, rasac Cveni mTavroba am etap-
ze Zalian kargad arTmevs Tavs.
SeiZleba didi megobrebi ar viyoT
mezobeli qveynebis, magram inte-
resTa Tanxvedra unda gvqondes,
riTac erTmaneTs gavufrTxil-
debiT. Tundac alievis viziti
arCveulebrivi SedegebiT, ungre-
Tidan orbanis viziti - araCveul-
ebrivi SedegebiT, premier-minis-
tris Zalian warmatebuli vizi-
ti CineTSi - Cvens qveyanas Zalian
waadgeba. rogori mniSvnelovania
arabTa gaerTianebul saamiroeb-
Tan Tavisufal vaWrobaze xelmo-
wera... es yvelaferi niSnavs, rom
valagebT mezoblebTan urTier-
Tobas. vnaxeT, Tundac erdoRani
rogor Sexvda Cvens premier-mi-
nistrs - es xom Cveni pativisce-
maa, Cems qveyanas rom Rirseulad
miiReben, mec xom am qveynis nawili
var, rogorc erT-erTi moqalaqe.
es xom mec mexeba, xom iseve mafase-
ben me, rogorc Cemi qveynis mTav-
robas, esaa mTavari!
omis SiSi ar unda gvqondes, mag-
ram unda viyoT fxizlad, sifxiz-
le saWiroa, dakvirveba saWiroa,
SeiZleba raRac ise Semogvaparon,
rom verc gaigo, radgan arc gare
da arc Sida mtrebi gvaklia, gvaq-
vs daZabuli urTierToba ruseT-
Tan, rac odesme pirdapir dial-
ogSi unda gadavides da amas vera-
vin uaryofs! gvaqvs gacxadebuli
politika - Cveni regionebis mSvi-
dobianad dabruneba. es ki avtoma-
turad niSnavs, rom Setevaze aras-
dros gadavalT. Cveni Tavdacvis
sistema unda iyos Zlieri, magram
Tavdacvis Zalebi unda gvyavdes
TavdacvisTvis da ara Tavdasxmis-
Tvis. rogorc Cven davalagebT
urTierTobebs, sapirispiro mxa-
rec iseve gvipasuxebs, amis mjera.
- daviT kezeraSvilTan sam-
dRiani vizitis Semdeg opozicia
larnakadan dabrunda, ris Sem-
degac xabeiSvilma ganacxada,
rom „did koalicias“ qmnis, Tum-
ca, „boroti enebi“ amboben, rom
xabeiSvils male gvaramia Caan-
acvlebs...
- gvaramias gaTavisuflebis
Semdeg, is gaxda mediatori saqar-
Tvelosa da qveynis mimarT mtru-
lad ganwyobil arasamTavrobo-
ebis qsels Soris, radgan qveyni-
dan keli degnanis gasvlis Semdeg
gaCnda problema, Tu visken gada-
inacvlebda didi Tanxebis gada-
nawilebis centri saqarTveloSi.
xabeiSvils fuls vin andob-
da! saakaSvili cixeSia, arc
kezeraSvils endobian, rad-
gan mas, adre Tu gvian, SeiZ-
leba daavlos evropam xeli
da daapatimros. roca aRar
dasWirdebaT, im dResve daapat-
imreben. amitomac „iCaliCes“, rom
rogorme gvaramia gamoeyvanaT
cixidan. es daskvna gavakeTe, rom
gvaramia iqneba centri, romelTa-
nac Tanxebi wamova, Tumca, gvara-
mia is tipia, romelic xabeiSvils
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arasodes aRiarebs, miT umetes,
rom man melias figuris SeqmnaSi
„sisxli Caaqcia“ da rac melias
damarTes, mis pativmoyvareobasac
Seexo.
aqve ar dagvaviwydes boke-
ria da misi coli, romlebsac
sakmaod didi kavSirebi aqvT da
aRiarebuli arian liberalur
wreSi. maTi viTomda dapirispi-
rebac saakaSvilTan, absolutu-
ri siyalbea, radgan imedi aqvT,
rom Tu „antinaci“ xar, es plusad
geTvleba da mets moigeb. „antina-
ci“ Tu xar, „naci“ ara xar! swo-
red es kategoriaa saSiSi - „le-
lo“ da amdagvarebi, romlebic
viTom „ar nacoben“, viTom saakaS-
vils ar iReben, realurad ki swo-
red isini amarageben arasamTavro-
boTa qsels Zalian didi TanxebiT,
raTa Cveni qveyana ayiravdes. es
aris kategoria, romelic adgils
ibevebs im sivrceSi, sadac viTom
„ocnebas“ ebrZvian.
levan xabeiSvilma ki amasobaSi
evropa naxa, larnaka naxa, Caic-
va, daixura... vin icis, amas odes-
me eRirseboda? misi paTosi da
Tavdadebac mesmis kezeraSvilis
mimarT, radgan man marTla bevri
gaukeTa finansuri TvalsazrisiT
Tu oficialuri statusiT xabe-
iSvils - Seqmna da dado, faqtob-
rivad!
- miSas xabeiSvili raSi unda
sWirdebodes?
- sofoebi raSi sWirdeba?
amdeni qali raSi sWirdeba? miSa,
zogadad, amovardnilia realob-
idan. miSas xom hgonia, rom sam-
yaro mis garSemo trialebs. is
cxovrobs irealur samyaroSi,
sadRac TviTon aris prezidentic
da premier-ministric. zustad es
aris saSiSi, rom yvela CarCodan
arian amovardnilebi. imitom ar
SeiZleba, maT opozicia erqvas. es
aris saSiSi Zala, romelic, rac
metad sustdeba, ufro da ufro
saSiSi xdeba.
amaze amazrzeni ra unda moig-
ono, xoStaria-jafariZem rom
axla raRac „saiti“ gaakeTes!
yvela maTi qmedeba aris antiqar-
Tuli da antisaxelmwifoebrivi.
albaT, raRac periodi opozicia
ar gveyoleba da es mocemulobad
unda miviRoT. Cven gvyavs radi-
kaluri Zalebi, romelTaganac
xalxma da xelisuflebam Tav-
dacvis reJimSi unda vicxovroT,
imaze rom meti ver gabedon, rasac
bedaven, radgan, meti rom „gauvid-
eT“, qveyana daiRupeba.
- sul cotac da, gavigebT,
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gaxdeba Tu ara Cveni qveyana
evrokavSiris wevrobis kandi-
dati qveynis statusis „Rirsi“.
rogor fiqrobT, amjerad mainc
miviRebT statuss? an ras Sec-
vlis es qarTul realobaSi?
- iyo evrokavSiris wevri, ra
Tqma unda, cudi ar aris, magram
Tu ar iqnebi, verc amaSi vxedav
problemas. SeiZleba wevri ar
iyoi, magram iseTi ratificirebu-
li urTierTobebi gqondes qvey-
nebTan, rogoricaa magaliTad,
uvizo mimosvla, Tavisufali vaW-
roba, gaRrmavebuli ekonomikuri
urTierTobebi. Cemi qveynisTvis
evrokavSiris kandidati qveynis
statusi ar iqneba daculobis
garanti da verc qveynis ekonom-
ikur mdgomareobas waadgeba. gar-
kveuli drois Semdeg, garkveuli
kriteriumebis dakmayofilebis
Semdeg, an gaxdebi „Rirsi“ kav-
Siris wevrobis, an - ara! rogor
fiqrobT, survili rom hqono-
daT, ukrainas ar gaawevrianebdnen
taSis kvriT, Cqar-Cqara? magram
raRac doneze miiyvanes da gayines
da, albaT, asec darCeba.
Tumca, aris erTi momenti.
evropa mxolod Cven ar gvWir-
deba - masac vWirdebiT, radgan
strategiuli qveyana varT, gansa-
kuTerebiT am omebis fonze. aqam-
de CvenTvis iyo mxolod evro-
pa da amerika, danarCeni qveynebi
TiTqos arc arsebobda da axla
aRmoCnda, rom aris CineTi, Tur-
qeTi, azerbaijani, ungreTi da
sxva qveynebi, romlebic dainet-
eresebuli arian saqarTvelosTan
partniorobiT da strategiuli
urTierobiT. anu, Cven ara varT
damokidebuli mxolod or elem-
entze, romlebmac nebismier dros
SeiZleba dagvaRalaton. evropisa
da amerikis garkveuli jgufebis
damokidebuleba CemTvis Sokis-
momgvrelia, romlebic dRemde
saakaSvils mfarveloben, krimina-
lis gaTavisuflebas mTxoven da
Cemi qveynis misamarTiT saSinel
gancxadebebs akeTeben. Cemi qveynis
upirveles, umagres qvelmoqmeds,
adamians, romelmac qveyana tira-
niuli avtokratiisgan ixsna, kri-
minalad micxadeben. rogor unda
miviRo aseTi evropa da amerika?
amitomac var maT mimarT skepti-
kurad ganwyobili.
CemTvis mTavaria, rom myavs
xelisufleba, romelic me avir-
Cie, qveynis did umravlesobasTan
erTad. romlis gadawyvetilebe-
bic momwons, radgan Cems dakveTas
asrulebs. dRes omi ara gvaqvs qve-
yanaSi, qveyana ganviTarebis gzazea,
qalaqebi lamazdeba, quCaSi gavla
gsiamovnebs... Tundac erTi patara
ayiravebis mcdeloba am yvelafers
SeaCerebs da Semdeg ukve TiToeuli
Cvengani viqnebiT damnaSave, Tu amas
xels ar SevuSliT. aqamde aras-
dros yofila, rom mTavroba da
mmarTveli gundi xalxis gverdiT
mdgariyo. yovelTvis piriqiT iyo.
axla ki, mTavrobas uwevs udidesi
winaaRmdegobis daZleva imisaTvis,
rom xalxis dakveTa - mSvidoba
Seasrulos.
nona qarqaSaZe
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waageT, qalbatono salome, waageT!
sakonstitucio sasamarTlom saqarTvelos prezidentis, salo-
me zurabiSvilis mier konstituciis darRveva daadgina. preziden-
tis impiCmentis Taobaze sakonstitucio sasamarTlos parlamentis
80-ma wevrma mimarTa. konstituciuri wardginebis arsebiTi ganxil-
va, zepiri mosmeniT 3 oqtombers daiwyo da 5 oqtombers dasrulda.
sakonstitucio sasamarTloSi prezidentis warmomadgenlebi
iyvnen Tamar CugoSvili da maia kopaleiSvili.
aRniSnul gadawyvetilebas, plenumis cxra wevridan mxari ar
dauWira samma mosamarTlem: irina imerliSvilma, giorgi kveren-
CxilaZem da Teimuraz tuRuSma. prezidentis mier konstituciis
darRveva daadastures mosamarTleebma: merab turavam, eva gociri-
Zem, giorgi TevdoraSvilma, xviCa kikilaSvilma, manana kobaxiZem da
vasil roiniSvilma.
sakonstitucio sasamarTlos gadawyvetilebis Semdeg, sakiTxi
parlamentSi gadainacvlebs, sadac prezidentis impiCmentisTvis 100
deputatis xma aris saWiro.
Tamar Ciburda- me marTla mainteresebs im sami mosamarTlis
niZe, moZraoba „xal- gadawyvetilebis motivi, romlebmac impiCmen-
xis Za lis“ wev ri: tis proceduras mxari ar dauWires, maintere-
ve lo di sa kon sti- sebs maTi axsna-ganmarteba, ratom ar dauWires
tucio sasamarTlos mxari?! ar iyo konstituciis darRveva Tu maT
as eT ga dawyve ti le- gadawyvetilebaSi iyo Tavad politikuri mizne-
bas, up ir ve le sad, bi? Tuki sakonstitucio sasamarTlos mosamar-
iq id an ga mom di na re, Tle gadawyvetilebas iRebs ara samarTlebrivi
rom Tavad preziden- kuTxiT, aramed, politikuri sarCuliT, maSin
tis warmomadgenleb- mas iq ra unda? maSin is Tavad arRvevs konsti-
ma kopaleiSvilma da tucias. mas aravin ekiTxeba qveyanaSi Seqmnil
CugoSvilma, TavianTi politikur situacias da arc imas ekiTxebian,
gamosvliT, TavianTi e.w. logikiT da msjelo- saqarTvelos SeuSlis Tu ara xels preziden-
biT daadanaSaules salome zurabiSvili kon- tis impiCmenti statusis moniWebis procesSi.
stituciis darRvevaSi. es iyo yvelaze didi veTanxmebi mosazrebas, rom, Tuki prezidents
kuriozi, albaT, Tavad prezidentisTvisac. maT aqvs Tavmoyvareoba, unda daweros gancxadeba
Tqves, rom prezidenti iyo oficialuri vizi- da datovos Tanamdeboba, Tumca, misi gamosvlis
tiT wasuli da mas unda miemarTa mTavrobis- Semdeg davrwmundiT, rom is amas ar gaakeTebs.
Tvis. Tuki mTavrobisTvis unda miemarTa da ukve mniSvneloba aRar aqvs, eyofa Tu ara par-
amis valdebuleba hqonda, maSin hqonda imis lamentSi xmebi mis impiCments. mTavaria, msof-
valdebulebac, rom mTavrobis gadawyvetile- liom gaigo, rom prezidentma, romelic unda
ba aResrulebina. braldebis mxare ki Zalian iyos konstituciis dacvis garanti, Tavad daar-
maRal doneze warsdga da ver SeZles oponen- Rvia konstitucia. pirvelad vnaxe, rom sakon-
tebma maTi daCagvra. Tumca, faqtebi imdenad Ria stitucio sasamarTlom Tavisi funqcia Seas-
da yvelafrismTqmeli iyo yvelasTvis, rigiTi rula, ar moerida prezidentis institutsac ki,
moqalaqisTvisac ki, imis mtkiceba, rom TiTqos ar moerida politikurad daZabul situacias,
prezidents konstitucia ar daurRvevia, dacvis Tundac sagareo politikaSi da upirobod daic-
mxarisTvis absoluturad SeuZlebeli gaxda. va saqarTvelos konstitucia.
zaal anjafariZe, analitikosi: zus- cedentuli da amas eqneba Tavisi Sesabami-
tad im mosamarTleebma ar dauWires mxari si adgili Cveni saxelmwifos istoriaSi.
verdiqts, viszec vfiqrobdi da amis gamoc- sakonstitucio sasamarTlom daicva qveynis
noba arcTu rTuli iyo, maT biografiebSi ZiriTadi kanoni da is ar Seewira msxver-
politikuri Tu sxva afiliaciis zigzage- plad politkoniunqturas. amas iswavlian
bidan gamomdinare. Tumca es ukve detale- momavali Taobebi. waageT, qalbatono salo-
bia. me, da SeiZleba bolomde verc acnobierebT
mTavari Sedegia, romelic gaxlavT pre- - Tu rogor!
zurab qadagiZe, moZraoba „xalxis Zalis“ viwro merkantiluri miswrafebebis gamo, kon-
wevri: Zalian swori da sasicocxlod mniSvne- stituciac ki daarRvia, samagaliTodaa dasas-
lovani gadawyvetilebaa! jeli, radgan sxva nebismieri Tanamdebobis pir-
erTi - rogorc saxelmwifoebrivad aucileb- ma ver gabedos saqarTvelos umaRlesi kanonis
eli, radgan aravin dgas konstituciaze maRla da ugulebelyofa da uflebamosilebis sakuTari
nebismieri TviTSemoqmedeba, saxelmwifos uzena- mizanSewonilobiT gamoyeneba.
esi kanonis wanaaRmdeg, aucileblad ase unda Zalian marTebulad moiqca „qarTuli ocne-
Sefasdes! da meore - ba“, roca sakonstitucio sasamarTlos mimarTa,
politikuri - umrav- xolo axla, parlamenti gamoucxadebs Tu ara
lesobis mier mxarda- impiCments salome zurabiSvils - meorexaris-
Werili zurabiSvili, xovania, radgan sakonstitucio sasamarTlom
romelmac „qarTuli moaxdina faqtis konstatireba, rom prezidentma
ocnebis“ eleqtora- daarRvia konstitucia!
ti gamoiyena saarCev- sasjelad ki zurabiSvils isic eyofa, Tavi
nod, Semdeg ki, pirve- yvelaze maRali rom egona da axla yvelaze uper-
live SemTxvevis dros speqtivo, „Camolaborantebuli“ politikosi
ugulebelyo sakuTa- gaxda. am yvelafris Semdeg Tavmoyvare adamiani
ri amomrCvelis neba gadadgeboda, Tumca sad salome da sad - Tavmoy-
da metic, sakuTari vareoba?!
saerTo gazeTi 7
ioseb WumburiZe, saqarTvelos kulturis, sportisa da
axalgazrdobis saministros eqspert-konsultanti, profe-
sori: prezidenti, romelic Tavad unda iyos kontituciis dacvis
garanti, mTavrobis nebas ar emorCileba, arRvevs konstitucias da
ambobs, „roca momindeba, maSin waval, sadac momindeba, - iq waval“!
aq gvaxsendeba misi erTi uxerxuli fraza: „sadac ar unda gaTxa-
ro, yvelgan SeiZleba gaTxaro“... da ukve Zalian komikuria es yve-
laferi.
sakonstitucio sasamarTlom dRes daadastura, rom orjer
ori aris oTxi. tragikulia is faqti, rom samdRian procesze sawi-
naaRmdegos amtkicebda parlamentis
yofili vice-spikeri Tamar CugoSvili
da, rac mTavaria, - Tbilisis universi-
tetis profesori. diax, samwuxarod,
ivane javaxiSvilis universitetSi
swored aseTebi datoves maSin, roca
iqidan yvelaze Rirseuli mecnierebi
daiTxoves. aseTebiT aris savse ara
mxolod javaxiSvilis universiteti,
aramed sxva umaRlesi saswavleblebic.
es ufro didi tragediaa. raRa unda
vTqvaT. maTTvis, orjer ori yovelTvis
xuTi iyo...
ali babaevi, saqarTvelos azerbaijanelTa erovnuli kon-
gresis Tavmjdomare: prezidentis valdebuleba iyo, daecva kon-
stitucia, gaeTvaliswinebina is direqtivebi, rac mis ufleba-
movaleobebSi Sedioda, momsaxureboda qarTuli saxelmwifos
interesebs, pativi eca amomrCevlis nebisTvis da gaemarTlebina
maTi ndoba, magram man es ver SeZlo. samwuxarod, qalbatonma
salome zurabiSvilma daarRvia yvelanairi zneobrivi da mora-
luri wesi, Tavisi prezidentobis periodSi Tundac imis gamo, rom
Seiwyala is adamianebi, romlebic amas ar imsaxurebdnen, bevri
iseTi adamiani, romelsac saxlSi sami-oTxi Svili elodeba da
msubuqi danaSaulisTvis ixdis sasjels, patimrobaSi datova. ise
atrialebs es qalbatoni prezidentis portfels, rogorc moex-
asiaTeba. Tavisi ampartavnebiT da viTom principulobiT qveyanas
azaralebs, mudmivad qveynis interesebis winaaRmdeg midis. ra Tqma
unda, eWvic ar mepareboda, rom sakonstitucio sasamarTlo mar-
Tebul gadawyvetilebas miiRebda. axla ki ukve mniSvneloba aRar
aqvs, Seagroveben Tu ara parlamentSi
impiCmetisTvis saWiro xmaTa raoden-
obas. nu miiRebs opozicia kenWisyraSi
monawileobas, isini xom arc am konsti-
tuciis miRebaSi monawileobdnen! Cemi
piradi azria, rom Tu prezidents kidev
aqvs Tavmoyvareoba da grZnobs qveynis
winaSe sul mcire valdebulebas mainc,
daweros gancxadeba da datovos prezi-
dentis posti. es iqneba misi erTaderTi
Rirseuli gadawyvetileba, Tumca, is
amas ar gaakeTebs.
E-mail: Saertogazeti@yahoo.com
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`hamasi~ mSvidobian palestinelebs farad gamoiyenebs, rom msxverpli
didi iyos da israelze saerTaSoriso zewola gaZlierdes
- Zalian didi tragedia tri-
alebs, didi sisxlisRvra da
ubedureba, magram Tuki mTlian-
obaSi SevxedavT, axali araferi
momxdara. es procesi saTaves
iRebs istoriulad ramdenime
aTasleulis winaT, jer kidev
im droidan, rodesac mosem Camo-
iyvana egviptidan ebraelebi da
daasaxla RmerTisgan boZebul
qanaanis miwaze, sadac sxva xal-
xi cxovrobda. saukuneebis Sem-
deg, me-19 saukunidan, daiwyo
ebraelebis masobrivi gansax-
leba da sionisturi moZraobis
procesi, anu alias gamocxadeba
sakmaod ucnauri da warmoudgenelia, rom mosads,
romelic msoflioSi yvelaze didi sadazvervo
samsaxuria Tavisi specifikiTa da siZlieriT, ar hqonda
informacia imis Sesaxeb, rom RazaSi aTasobiT adamiani
emzadeboda israelze TavdasxmisTvis.
- ebraelebis dabruneba israel-
is miwaze. me-19 saukunis meore
naxevridan etapobrivad daiwyo
es moZraoba da ufro farTomas-
Stabiani saxe ukve me-20 saukun-
is dasawyisSi miiRo, rodesac,
pirveli msoflio omis Sede-
gad, axlo aRmosavleTi or -
frangul da britanul misiad
gaiyo. frangul nawilSi moxvda
siria-libani, samxreT, ingli-
sur nawilSi moxvdnen iordania
da egvipte. palestina maSin mxo-
lod geografiuli dasaxeleba
iyo, sadac arabulenovani mosax-
leoba cxovrobda da iq arana-
iri saxelmwifoebrivi niSnebi
ar arsebobda.
israelSi gadasaxlebis didi
procesi daiwyo meore msof-
lio omis dros, rasac gansa-
kuTrebiT xels uwyobda stali-
ni. stalins unda umadlodnen
ebraelebi saxelmwifos Seqmnas.
ialtis konferenciaze, roca
CerCili, ruzvelti da stalini
molaparakebis magidasTan isxd-
nen da msoflios inawilebdnen,
miiRes israelis saxelmwifos
Seqmnis gadawyvetileba. holo-
kostis Sedegad, maSindeli sab-
WoTa kavSiris da evropis teri-
toriaze ltolvilTa iseTi
nakadi warmoiSva, rom stalin-
sac da evropasac xels aZlev-
da, ebraelTa gadasaxlebis pro-
cesi daCqarebuliyo. 1947 wels,
roca britaneTis mandati das-
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didi cvlilebebis Sedegad, msoflioSi didi TamaSi safuZvelsac „hamasis“ tero- vis problemebi Seeqmneba.
da gadalageba mimdinareobs. moiSala sistema, rome- ristuli Tavdasxma da mSvido- - konkretulad ra kavSi-
lic meore msoflio omis dros iqna Camoyalibebuli, biani moqaleebis didi msxver- ri SeiZleba hqondes am or oms
imsxvreva amerikis hegemonia da am periodSi, yvelaze pli aZlevs. unda iTqvas, rom erTmaneTTan?
mniSvnelovania qveyanaSi mSvidobis SenarCuneba. amis Raza aris msoflioSi erT-erTi - es ori omi erTmaneTs buneb-
yvelaze mWidrod dasaxlebuli rivad ukavSirdeba. ukraina
Sesaxeb strategiuli dagegmarebis centris xelmZRva-
teritoria. warmoidgineT, Tbi- zelenskis administraciam iseT
nelma levan mamalaZem „saerTo gazeTTan“ saubrisas lisSi, mxolod vake-saburTa- qveyanad Camoayaliba, romelic
ganacxada. los raionSi 2 milioni adamiani ukve mTlianad damokidebulia im
misi TqmiT, israelSi ganviTarebuli movlenebi gav- rom cxovrobdes, daaxloebiT finansur, teqnikur Tu samxedro
lenas moaxdens ukrainaze, ramac SeiZleba, ukraineli aseTi mdgomareobaa, Tan Zalian daxmarebaze, rasac mas dasavle-
xalxi seriozulad daazaralos: mZime pirobebSi cxovrobs xal- Ti aRmouCens da rogorc ki dax-
xi. „hamasis“ gvirabebis mignebac mareba Seumcirdeba, Tavdacvis
rulda, gaero axali Seqmnili savleTSi TiTqos siwynare sakmaod rTuli procesia, maT problemebic Seeqmneba. ukrainis
iyo da iq gadawyvites, rom am iyo. aSS-is prezidentis mrCe- aqvT gvirabebis qseli gayvani- saxelmwifo sruliad daucveli
teritoriaze ori saxelmwifo veli erovnuli usafrTxoebis li mTel teritoriaze, sakma- darCeba im politikis Sedegad,
CamoeyalibebinaT - israeli da sakiTxebSi, jeik salivani xaz- od momzadebulebi arian, aqvT rac zelenskim gaatara, faqtob-
palestina. arabebsac da ebra- gasmiT aRniSnavda, rom baiden- SeiaraReba, aqvT kustarulad rivad, qveyanas suvereniteti
elebsac TavianTi saxelmwifo is administraciam miaRwia imas, damzadebuli raketebi, romleb- daukarga da mTlianad damo-
hqondaT, sazRvrebic ki gaav- rom israelSi mSvidobam daisad- sac momentalurad amzadeben da kidebuli gaxada dasavleTze.
les, magram rogorc ki israel- gura. Tumca, xom xedavT, abso- iseTi raodenobiT isvrian, rom zogi ambobs, mere ra, rom xal-
ma damoukidebloba gamoacxada, luturad sapirispiro ram mox- amas israelis haersawinaaRmde- xi ixoceba, samagierod, armia
amis aRiareba arabulma qveynebma da. sakmaod ucnauri da war- go dacvis sistemebi ver aCer- hyavs Zlieri ukrainaso, mag-
ar moindomes. daiwyes omi siri- moudgenelia, rom mosads, ebs. aseve, saxmeleTo operaciis ram am Zlierebisgan aRar-
am, libanma, trans-iordaniam da romelic msoflioSi yve- dros sakmaod rTulia quCebSi aferi darCeba, rogorc ki
erayma mdinare iordanes dasav- laze didi sadazvervo sam- sabrZolo procesis warmar- daxmarebas Seuwyveten. vxe-
leT nawili daikaves. egviptem saxuria Tavisi specifiki- Tva, radgan erTma palestinurma davT, rom amerika israel-
samxreTi nawili daikava da misi Ta da siZlieriT, ar hqon- yumbaram SeiZleba milionobiT is daxmarebaze gadaerTo,
tankebi Tel-avividan 35 kilo- da informacia imis Sesaxeb, Rirebulebis sabrZolo teqni- 24-miliardiani Sepirebu-
metrSi ganTavsda. rom RazaSi aTasobiT adami- ka gamoiyvanos mwyobridan. Tan li daxmareba 200 milionze
am arabulma saxelmwifoeb- ani emzadeboda israelze „hamasi“ mSvidobian pales- daiyvanes, aRarc samxedro
ma dauSves Zireuli Secdomebi. TavdasxmisTvis. Tumca axla tinelebs farad gamoiyen- teqnikas awvdian im raoden-
ebs, rom msxverpli didi iyo obiT, ruseTis winaaRmdeg kon-
da israelze saerTaSoriso trSeteva ki ara, Tundac Tavis
zewola gaZlierdes. Tumca dacva rom SeZlon.
israeli yvelafers gaakeTebs da amitom, Tu samxedro oper-
rogorc neTaniahum ganacxada aciis periodi gaxangrZliv-
„am teroristul budes bolos da israelSi, es viTareba kidev
mouRebs“, magram Tuki israel- ufro cud dReSi Caagdebs ukra-
ma saxmeleTo operaciis dawye- inas. gamoricxuli ar aris, rom
bidan ori kviris ganmavlobaSi amiT iranma isargeblos da gaaq-
roca gaerom miiRo gadawyveti- amaze msjelobis dro ar aris, procesi ar daasrula, es gamo- tiurdes axlo aRmosavleTTan
leba palestinis saxelmwifos yvelaferi gairkveva, rogorc iwvevs ukureaqcias, daixoceba mimarTebaSi. aseve, Tu samxedro
Camoyalibebaze, imis magivrad, ki es procesebi dasrulde- Zalian bevri adamiani. Sedegad, eqspertebis prognozebs davey-
rom amisTvis SeewyoT xeli, ba. ebraeli xalxi ar apatiebs israelis mxardaWera bevr qve- rdnobiT, zamTris dadgomasTan
maT israels omi gamoucxades xelisuflebas, es saSiSroeba yanas gauWirdeba da winaaRmde- erTad gaaqtiurdeba ruseTic
da teritoriebis okupacia rom gamoeparaT da amaze pasuxis goba gaizrdeba. aman SeiZleba da gadava Setevaze. ar aris gamo-
ganaxorcieles. Secdoma Sem- gacema neTaniahus da mis mmar- gamoiwvios arabuli qveynebis ricxuli, rom daZabuloba vixi-
deg wlebSic gagrZelda, rasac Tvelobas mouwevT. Cemi vara- CarTva, iranis gaaqtiureba da loT yviTeli zRvis midamoebSi
israelma upasuxa. ukve civi udiT, am didi gadalagebisa da ufro farTo masStabis omi. taivanTan dakavSirebiT, CineTis
omis periodSi ki israeli aSS- didi TamaSis fonze, rac axla unda iTqvas, rom am process ukve mier kontrolirebad terito-
is mfarvelobis qveS gadavida. msoflioSi mimdinareobs, isra- aqvs zegavlena ukrainaSi mimdi- riaze. dapirispireba mosalod-
meoce saukunis 60-ian wlebSi eli RazaSi samxedro operacias nare omze da Tu droulad ar nelia or koreas Sorisac...
israelma sinas teritoria daik- Caatarebs, romlis legitimur dasruldeba, ukrainas Tavdac- moiSala sistema, romelic
ava, kairoSic Sevidoda , magram
sabWoTa kavSirma gaaCera. bolo
periodisTvis israelma aRiara
palestinis avtonomia, magram
maT daiwyes brZola damoukid-
eblobis misaRebad. iaser araf-
atma bevri SeZlo palestinis
uflebebis mosapoveblad. axla
am moZraobas mahmud azizi xel-
mZRvanelobs, mdinare iordanes
dasavleT nawilSi...
palestineli arabebi gan-
sxvavdebian erTmaneTisgan, Raza-
Si sunitebi cxovroben, Crdi-
loeT dasavleTSi ki - Siitebi,
sadac ufro iranis gavlena
sWarbobs. Tavis droze israelma
Seuwyo xeli, rom palestinel
arabebSi bzari gaeRrmavebina da
Razas seqtorSi „hamasis“ Seq-
mnaSi daexmara. Semdgom es orga-
nizacia israelis sawinaaRmde-
go teroristul organizaciad
Camoyalibda.
bolo periodSi axlo aRmo-
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meore msoflio omis dros Camo-
yalibda sami qveynis meTauris
mier. aSS-is hegemonia ukve
imsxvreva, dolari msof-
lio valutis statuss kar-
gavs. didi cvlilebebi da didi
ga da na wi le ba mim di na re obs,
rogorc teritoriuli aseve
- ekonomikuri. ara mgonia, rom
israelis samxedro operaciis
dasrulebis Semdeg es yvelafe-
ri damTavrdeba, me vfiqrob, rom
piriqiT, win aranakleb rTuli
procesebi gvelis.
- cota xnis win gairkva, rom
opozicia saxelmwifo gadat-
rialebas gegmavda da maidans
gvimzadebda, Sedegad, arc Cve-
ni qveyana aRmoCndeboda nakleb
dReSi. vfiqrob, israelSi gan-
viTarebulma movlenebma maTi
gegmebi Caagdo da ise aqtiur-
adac veRar emzadebian „qveynis
asayiraveblad“...
- uaxloes periodSi ra mov-
lenebic ganviTarda, amis safuZ-
velze Tu vimsjelebT, Cvens qve-
yanaSi wamova devnilTa nakadi
israelidan. rogorc amboben,
ukve Semovida ramdenime aTasi
adamiani. es is xalxia, romle-
bic warmoSobiT arian saqarTve-
lodan. saqarTvelos es misia
gaaCnia, gansakuTrebiT ebraleb-
Tan mimarTebaSi da am adamianebs
xeli unda SevuwyoT. istori-
ulad, saqarTvelo yovelTvis
israelis mxardamWeri iyo da
asec grZeldeba. israelis mxar-
damWeri pozicia Cvenma xeli-
suflebam daafiqsira da es
mimarTuleba unda ganvagrZoT.
rac Seexeba Cvens qveyanas, ver
dageTanxmebiT, rom, rogorc
TqviT, msoflioSi ganviTare-
bulma movlenebma Seasusta
mexuTe kolonis moqmedeba. aSS-
isa da dasavleTis garkveul
jgufebs gamoyofili aqvT sak-
maod didi Tanxa imisaTvis, rom
saqarTveloSi revoluciuri
scenari ganxorcieldes. proce-
si dawyebulia, Tanxa Semodis,
dafinanseba didia... Tqven opoz-
icia axseneT, magram opozicia
saqarTvelos ar hyavs. es aris
mexuTe kolona, anu sazogado-
ebrivi, arasamTavrobo da poli-
tikuri dajgufeba, maT Soris,
mediasaSualebebi, romlebic
sazRvargareTidan finansdebi-
an da maT davalebas asruleben.
opozicia ki niSnavs qveynisTvis
da xalxisTvis problemebis
mogvarebis alternativas da
Cven, samwuxarod, aseTi fufu-
neba ar gvaqvs. es mexuTe kolona
axla Tanxis aTvisebis proces-
Sia da pirveli talRa, romelic
axlovdeba, qveynis evrokavSi-
ris wevrobis kandidatad miRe-
ba-armiRebis sakiTxia. qveynis-
Tvis kandidatis statusis mini-
Weba maT ar ar awyobT, radgan es
iqneba „qarTuli ocnebis“ kidev
erTi plusi da amis daSveba ar
undaT. Cven rom normaluri da
saxelmwifoebrivad moazrovne
opozicia gvyoloda, saxelmwi-
fo interesebidan gamomdinare,
ibrZolebdnen evrointegraci-
isTvis da kandidatis statusis
mopovebis Tanamonawile gax-
debodnen. eseni ki cdiloben,
rom statusi ver miviRoT da es
gamoiyenon saqarTveloSi revo-
luciuri procesebis gasaRvi-
veblad. bevri ambobs, rom amas
qarTuli sazogadoeba ar dauS-
vebs. Tumca, rogorc politi-
kuri teqnologiebis special-
isti, getyviT, rom socialuri
fsiqologia da sociumis mar-
Tva iZleva imis saSualebas, rom
adamianebs is gaakeTebino, rac
gansazRvruli gaqvs. miT umetes,
Tu didi Tanxebi, organizebuli
jgufebi da mediastruqturebi
gagaCnia, nebismier rames moax-
den, miT ufro, patara qveyanaSi.
erTaderTi, ramac SeiZleba es
yvelaferi SeaCeros, isaa, rom
xalxis „moqoqva“, xalxis gamoy-
vana gauWirdebaT. amaSi ukve
sakmaod didi fulis daxarjva
mouwevT, radgan xibli dasav-
leTTan dakavSirebiT mexuTe
kolonam da TviTon dasavleT-
ma ukve ise gaaubralova, ise
gaaRariba, rom Tu aqamde evro-
pa aRiqmeboda keTildReobis,
demokratiis, adamianis ufleba-
Ta dacvis simbolod da norma-
luri cxovrebis standartad,
dRes ukve sWarbobs azri, rom
es aris garyvnilebis, motyu-
ebis, „gadagdebis“ da usamar-
Tlobis bude, amitom adamian-
ebze manipulireba SedarebiT
garTulebulia. rac yvelaze
mTavaria, saqarTveloSi revo-
lucia da gadatrialeba gadis
Cveni qveynis suverenitetis
dakargvis zRvarze. warmoidgi-
neT, ras moimoqmedebs okupanti
qveyana ruseTi, romelsac Cveni
teritoriebis 20 procenti aqvs
mitacebuli da sajariso nawi-
lebi hyavs ganlagebuli saqar-
Tvelos miwebze, roca dainaxavs,
rom „omis partia“ gadatrial-
ebis gziT modis! ruseTi TviTon
Seqmnis imis safuZvels, rom Tbi-
lisSi tankebi Semoiyvanos. sam-
xreTis flangze ruseTi meore
frontis gaxsnas ar Seurigde-
ba da agresias ganaxorciel-
ebs mTel saqarTveloze, rasac
dasavleTis „aRSfoTeba“ da san-
qciebi veRar SeaCerebs.
martis movlenebis dros mar-
Tla kanonis gatanam ki ar gaaC-
era is adamianebi, quCebSi rom
manqanebs wvavdnen da policias
esxmodnen Tavs, pikze iyo situ-
acia, magram ukan daixia dasav-
leTma. SeCerda iqiTa mxare,
romelic milionebs agzavnis da
organizebas ukeTebs am proce-
sebs, radgan ukve datrialda
informacia, rom ruseTi samza-
diss iwyebda, saWiroebis Sem-
TxvevaSi intervencia ganexor-
cielebina saqarTveloze. aSS-m
ukan daixia da ucbad gaaCeres
revoluciuri procesi. es aris
riski dasavleTisTvis, radgan,
Tuki revoluciuri gadatri-
aleba bolomde miiyvanes, SeiZ-
leba mTlianad dakargon saqar-
mogvwons Tu ara xelisufleba, yvelani
valdebulebi varT, erTad davdgeT
mSvidobis SesanarCuneblad.
Tvelosa da kavkasiaze zegavle-
na. amisi eSiniaT. Tumca, didi
survili aqvT, zegavlena moax-
dinon, daiqvemdebaron da ufro
morCili gaxadon Cveni qveyana.
„mexuTe kolonis“dafinanseba-
sac amitom agrZeleben.
- sul axlaxan larnakadan
dabrunda xabeiSvili da misi
gundi. daviT kezeraSvilTan
Sexvedris Semdeg axali gegmebi
da perspeqtivebi dausaxavT. aq
ki saakaSvilis „misaRebi“ dax-
vdaT, miSaze Seyvarebuli qale-
biT savse...
- saakaSvili ukve Camowerili
produqtia da aRarc misi haram-
xana akvirvebs vinmes. sasacilo
is aris, cocxal kacs muzeums
rom ukeTeben da SeiZleba male
mumificirebac moiTxovos. xom
xvdebiT, rogor mZime fsiqikur
SemTxvevasTan gvaqvs saqme, maze
praqtikosma fsiqiatrebma unda
gaakeTon Sefaseba! rac Seexeba
maT aqeT-iqiT siaruls, Cven xom
vTqviT, rom mexuTe kolonasTan
gvaqvs saqme. undaT, meti dafi-
nanseba moipovon da xelisuf-
lebis xelSi Casagdebad ibrZo-
lon. erTxelac ver davinaxeT,
rom romelime maTgani gamovi-
des da problemebis gadawyvetis
konkretuli gza SemogvTavazos,
konkretuli mimarTulebebi
uCvenon sazogadoebas, magali-
Tad, rogor SeiZleba Seiqmnas
meti samuSao adgili, gaizar-
dos xelfasi, gaizardos qvey-
nis biujeti, raTa Cvenma moqa-
laqeebma meti Semosavali, meti
keTildReoba miiRon, Semcirdes
migracia... amaze ki ar aris saub-
ari, maT undaT, rom xelisuf-
leba Caigdon xelSi, Torem vis
raSi ainteresebs saqarTvelos
an misi moqalaqeebis bedi. amit-
omac unda velodoT situaciis
garTulebis or talRas: pir-
veli talRa axla iwyeba faq-
tobrivad, roca statusis moni-
Weba-ar moniWebis sakiTxi unda
gadawydes. me mainc vfiqrob,
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winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi, evropa
saqarTveloze gavlenas dakar-
gavs da, rogorc TviTonve aRi-
areben, saqarTvelo ruseTis
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aqvs mSvidobas! amitom, mog-
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- Cven ara gvyavs saqarTvelos
interesebis damcveli preziden-
ti. Cven gvyavs rezidenti, rome-
lic saqarTvelos adanaSaulebs
yvelaferSi, romelic cdilobs,
saqarTvelo iyos dasavleTis
morCili qveyana da misi karna-
xiT vimoqmedoT. saxelmwifo
interesebis, Cveni identobisa da
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ar fiqrobs, iseTi prezidenti
gvyavs. aqamdec uamravi mizezi
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ni impiCmentis niCabze Segvesva.
sakonstitucio sasamarTlos
daskvniT, prezidentma konsti-
tucia daarRvia da parlaments
aqvs yvelanairi samarTlebrivi
safuZveli impiCmentis procesis
dawyebisTvis. ra saxes miiRebs
es saqarTvelos parlamentSi,
cota xanSi davinaxavT.
nona qarqaSaZe
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aucilebelia neitraluri, gawonasworebuli politikis gatareba
gvesaubreba uflebadamcveli
grigol gagniZe.
_ batono grigol, axla-
xan saqarTveloSi oficialu-
ri vizitiT meuRlesTan erTad
imyofeboda ungreTis premi-
er-ministri viqtor orbani.
rogor SeafasebdiT mis stum-
robas?
_ yvelas kargad moexsene-
ba, rom ungreTi evrokavSiri-
sa da nato-s sruluflebiani
wevria. Tavad premieri da misi
mTavroba konservatiuli Sexe-
dulebebiT gamoirCevian, bevr
sakiTxSi nato-sa da evrokav-
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gamomdinare moqmedeben. amitom
ungreTis xelisuflebiT evro-
kavSirSi zogjer ukmayofiloe-
bi arian, rasac evroCinovnikebi
Riad afiqsireben. Tumca, orba-
ni `kerketi kakalia~, romelsac
mosaxleobam zedized mesamed
gamoucxada ndoba. vimeoreb,
ungreTis dRevandeli mTavro-
ba qveynis interesebidan gamom-
dinare moqmedebs da amitomac
uWers mas mxars mosaxleobis
umravlesoba.
rac Seexeba saqarTveloSi
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mis stumrobas, unda giTxraT,
rom mniSvnelovania. ver gety-
viT, ra xelSekrulebebi gaa-
formes saqarTvelos da ung-
reTis delegaciebma, konkretu-
lad raze SeTanxmdnen, magram
politikurad maRali rangis
aRmoCnda Tundac imiT, rom na-
to-sa da evrokavSiris wevri
qveynis mTavrobis meTauri sam-
dRiani oficialuri vizitiT
Camovida CvenTan. gavixsenoT
orbanis emociuri sityva, rome-
lic mis pativsacemad gamar-
Tul sadilze warmoTqva. amis
garda, orbanis vizitiT kidev
erTxel dadasturda saqarTve-
los xelisuflebis mier swo-
rad warmoebuli saSinao Tu
sagareo politika.
_ opoziciam orbanis misa-
marTiT ganacxada, rom ruse-
Tis pre zi den tis, pu ti nis
megobariao...
_ dRevandeli opozici-
is mizani saqarTvelos keTil-
dReoba rom ar aris, TiTqmis
yo vel dRi u rad mtkic de ba.
axlac aseTi SefasebiT Seecad-
nen, daekninebinaT orbanis vizi-
tis mniSvneloba. Tu politi-
kosobaze ambiciebi aqvT, opozi-
ciam isic kargad unda icodes,
rom did politikaSi megobre-
bi ar arseboben. isic kargad
gvaxsovs, rogor usamarTlod
mogveqcnen SarSan evrokavSir-
Si, rodesac kandidatis sta-
tusi ar mogvces. Cemi azriT,
sworad moiqca ungreTis pre-
mieri, rom opozicias saerTod
ar Sexvda. orbanis vizitma Cve-
ni qveynisa da ungreTis urTi-
erToba maRal rangSi aiyvana.
is saerTaSoriso organizaci-
ebSi, evrokavSirSi daxmare-
bas da mxarSi dgomas Sehpirda
saqarTvelos xelisuflebas,
rac mniSvnelovania. isic aRsa-
niSnavia, rom politikur-eko-
nomikur sakiTxebze molapara-
kebebis garda, stumars Cveni
istoriuli Zeglebi daaTvali-
erebines. kadrebSi kargad Canda
orbanis meuRlis aRtacebuli
da gakvirvebuli saxe, romelic
aSkarad moixibla saqarTvelos
istoriuli ZeglebiT. gasaoca-
ri aq araferia, radgan orbani
msoflios dRevandel politi-
kosebs Soris erT-erTia, rome-
lic erovnuli tradiciebis
mimdevari da pativismcemelia.
amitom, rac unda Tqvas opozi-
ciam, verafriT dakninebs misi
vizitis mniSvnelobas. saqarT-
velos mosaxleobis umravle-
soba kargad xedavs Cveni xeli-
suflebis efeqtian muSaobas.
opoziciis nawili pirdapir
Tu iribad, ruseTisgan iRebs
dafinansebas, rac sazogadoebam
kargad icis, magram ruseTTan
megobrobas isini sxvas abrale-
ben.
_ sa qar T ve los usaf r-
Txoebis samsaxurma cota xnis
winaT gaavrcela informacia,
rom qveyanaSi morigi `feradi
revolucia~ igegmeba. Tqven
realurad migaCniaT msgavsi
scenari?
_ uSiSroebis samsaxurma,
faqtobrivad, gaSifra opozi-
ciis survili, qveyanaSi are-
u lo ba mo awyon, ris T vi sac
ucxoeTidan treningebis Casa-
tareblad radikaluri Sexe-
dulebebis `trenerebi~ Camo-
iyvanes. Tumca, destruqciuli
opoziciis garda, aravis unda
saqarTveloSi xelisuflebis
Zalismieri meTodebiT Secvla.
qveynis SigniT areuloba aTw-
leulobiT dagvwevs ukan da
rac gvaqvs, imasac davkargavT.
amitomac daiwyo sus-ma gamo-
Zieba. opoziciis warmomadgen-
lebi imasac wamoaZaxeben xol-
me xelisuflebas, gamoZiebebi
adrec CaatareT, magram aravin
dasjilao. erTi mxriv, marT-
lebic arian, 2012 wlidan moyo-
lebuli, xelisufleba maTi
mkacrad dasjiT ar aris dain-
teresebuli. marTalia, calke-
uli pirebi gaasamarTles, mag-
ram masobrivi dapatimrebebi,
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ar ganuxorcielebiaT. axla
sus-i valdebulia, bolomde
miiyvanos dawyebuli gamoZieba.
revoluciebiTa da areulobe-
bis meSveobiT xelisuflebaSi
mosulebma rac moutanes Tavi-
anT qveynebs, kargad vxedavT.
_ rogor fiqrobT, wels
miviRebT evrokavSiris wevro-
bis statuss?
_ bolo periodSi saerTa-
Soriso organizaciebi dade-
biTad afaseben saqarTvelos
xe li suf le bis saq mi a no bas.
vfiqrob, statusis miRebis
didi Sansi gvaqvs. mimaCnia, rom
evrokavSiri unda iyos dainte-
resebuli Cveni gawevrianebiT
regionSi arsebuli arastabi-
luri viTarebis gamo. ruseTis-
Tvis problemas ar warmoadgens
evrokavSirSi Cveni gawevria-
neba, iqauri xelisufleba na-
to-Si Cvens gawevrianebas ewi-
naaRmdegeba. samwuxaroa, rom
ruseTi afxazeTSi apirebs sara-
keto danadgarebis ganTavsebas.
_ Cvens samSobloSi mniSv-
nelovani cvlilebebia, mxed-
velobaSi azerbaijan-somxeTis
urTierToba maqvs. somxeTma
mTiani yarabaRi daTmo. ra mox-
da?
_ azerbaijani marto vera-
fers mi aR wev da, Tur qeT ma
iTamaSa didi roli. amis gar-
da, prezidenti alievi sakmaod
Wkvianurad moiqca _ molapa-
rakebebi ar Seuwyvetia ruseT-
Tan, romelmac somxeTis mxare
daikava. somxeTis premier-mi-
nistri nikol faSiniani sus-
ti politikosi aRmoCnda _
ruseTs ganudga da kursi dasav-
leTisken aiRo. axlaxan yirgi-
zeTSi gamarTul dsT-is meTa-
urTa samitzec ar Cavida, sadac
dagegmili iyo ruseTis prezi-
dent vladimir putinTan piris-
pir Sexvedra. aseve, varaudob-
dnen sammxriv _ ruseT-somxeT-
azerbaijanis molaparakebas. Tu
somxeTSi xelisufleba Seicva-
la, yarabaRis sakiTxi kvlav win
wamoiwevs, magram rogor SeZle-
ben problemis mogvarebas, esaa
sakiTxavi.
_ axlo aRmosavleTSi omi
gaCaRda israelsa da dajgufe-
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ba `hamass~ Soris. movlenebis
ganviTarebis ra perspeqtivebs
eliT?
_ mSvidobas rom alter-
nativa ar aqvs, kidev erTxel
ga moC n da. sam wu xa roa, rom
dabombvebs mSvidobiani mosax-
leoba ewireba, rac yvelaze
savalaloa, orive mxares iRu-
pebian bavSvebi. saerTaSoriso
normebiT, omis dros Cadenili
sastiki danaSaulis SemTxveva-
Si, saqmeSi saerTaSoriso kri-
minaluri sasamarTlo erTve-
ba. savaraudod, am SemTxveva-
Sic daiwyeba mokvleva. rogor
ganviTardeba movlenebi, Zneli
saTqmelia. vxedavT, rom isra-
elis winaaRmdeg erTiande-
ba musulmanuri samyaro. Tu
israeli gaimarjvebs, terito-
riulad gafarTovdeba, amiT
amerikis SeerTebuli State-
bi ukrainaSi warumateblobas
gadafaravs. Tu israelisTvis
savalalo SedegiT dasruldeba
omi, nato-s poziciebic dasus-
tdeba saerTaSoriso arenaze.
aqve sakiTxavia, saidan hqon-
da `hamass~ didi raodenobiT
dasavluri SeiaraReba. arse-
bobs varaudi, rom ukraina yidi-
da Sav bazarze. es aSS-is spec-
samsaxurebma unda gamoiZios.
_ batono grigol, saqar-
TveloSi bevri ebraeli cxov-
robs, bevrs israelSi hyavs
naTesavebi da megobrebi. aseT
dros ra unda gaakeTos Cvenma
qveyanam?
_ aucilebelia, xelisuf-
lebam gaataros neitraluri,
ga wo nas wo re bu li po li ti ka
rogorc qveynis SigniT, aseve
saerTaSoriso doneze. saqar-
Tvelos specsamsaxurebma ki
rogorc Cveni moqalaqeebis,
aseve ucxoelebis mkacri kon-
troli unda ganaxorcielon,
raTa Tavidan aviciloT safr-
Txeebi. saqarTvelo xom evro-
pa-aziis gzagasayarzea da aq
mSvidobas, stabilurobas gan-
sakuTrebuli mniSvneloba aqvs
CvenTvisac da, saerTod, msof-
liosTvisac.
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oj axi aq vs is ra el is pre mi-
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TxveviTi pirovneba israelSi.
mas bolo wlebSi Zalian axlo
urTierToba hqonda ruseTTan,
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Seicvleba, radgan, rac unda
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inelebi iaraRs yiddnen hama-
sis mebrZolebze aravin daij-
erebs.
amjerad msoflio sunTqva-
Sek ru li el od eba, ro gor
wa ri mar Te ba es sax me le To
operacia, radgan Tu is zoma-
gadasuli simkacriT Catarda,
daviT qarTveliSvili: savsebiT SesaZlebelia
poloneTSi samoqalaqo omi daiwyos
poloneTSi Catarda sapar-
lamento arCevnebi. mmarTvel-
ma partiam didi albaTobiT
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Cinskis partiam `samarTali
da samarTlianoba~ egzitpo-
lebis mixedviT amomrCevel-
Ta 36,8% mxardaWera moipova.
misi uaxloesi konkurentia
“samoqalaqo koalicia”, ro-
melic aerTianebs feminzmis,
liberalizmis, sekularizmisa
da “el-ji-bi-Ti” Temebis in-
teresdamcvelebs - 31,6%. opo-
ziciuri “mesame gza” agrovebs
13%-s, xolo “memarcxeneebi”
- 8,6%. ase rom, Tu opozici-
uri speqtri SeZlebs gaerTi-
aris safrTxe, rom simpaTia,
romliTac dRes ebraeli xal-
xi sar geb lobs, mSvi do bi ani
arabi mosaxleobisken gadaix-
aros. hamass ar vgulisxmob,
rasakvirvelia, is verasdros
gaxdeba msoflios simpaTiis
obi eq ti. as eve, sa in te re soa,
irani rogor moiqceva. iran-
ma ukve jarebi miiyvana eray-
is sazRvar Tan, rad gan Tu
gadawyvets, CaerTos am omSi,
erayi unda gaiaros. libanis
sam xre TiT ki hez bo laa gaZ-
li er eb uli. hez bo la aT jer
ufro Zlieri iyo yovelTvis,
vid re ha ma si. mas 40-aT as am-
de kargad gawvrTnili „boev-
iki“ hyavs. CaerTvebian Tu ara
isini am omSi, vnaxoT. yvelaze
mTavari mainc is aris, rogor
dasruldeba mZevlebis gaTa-
vi suf le bis op er acia. ar is
cnoba, rom mosadma es oper-
acia ukve daiwyo, magram amis
dadgena Znelia. ar aris gamo-
ricxu li, rom bo lo mo men-
anebas - seimis umravlesobac
maT xelSi iqneba da mTavrobis
Camoyalibebis berketebic.
odnav mainc rom gvqondes
warmodgena, ra tipis polo-
neTTan SesaZloa gvqondes saq-
me axlo momavalSi, mxolod
erT magaliTs moviyvan: “samo-
qalaqo koaliciis” lideri
rafal TSaskovski, sul raRac
sami wlis win gamodioda ini-
ciativiT, qveynis kaToliku-
ri eklesiis bazaze Seqmnili-
yo calke taZrebi, romelTa
“mrevli” mxolod “el-ji-bi-
Ti” Temis “morwmune” warmo-
madgenlebi iqnebodnen, Sesaba-
misi orientaciis “samRvdelo-
ebiT”. msgavsi sigiJe polonur
tSi hamasma tyveebi daxocos,
Tumca, daxocvac ar awyobT,
radgan, rac unda iyos, Tavi-
anT reitings ufrTxildebi-
an. ician, rom aravin mouwon-
ebs 120 udanaSaulo adamianis,
bav Svis, qa li sa Tu mo xu cis
da xoc vas, maT So ris, arc
megobari qveyana irani.
- ru seT-uk ra in is om is
as eTi ga xan grZli ve bi sa da
ax la uk ve is ra el-pa les ti-
na Si mim di na re om is fon ze,
mesame msoflio omis dawyebis
safrTxe xom ar arsebobs?
- ara, amis safrTxe ar arse-
bobs. arc uk ra in is da arc
israelis gamo mesame msoflio
oms ar av in da iwyebs. msof-
lio omis saSiSroebis kuTx-
iT ga ci le biT se ri oz ulia
taivanis problema, radgan, Tu
CineTi taivanisTvis brZolas
daiwyebs, SesaZloa, masSi amer-
ikac Caerios.
nona qarqaSaZe
eklesias misi daarsebis dRi-
dan jer ar Sexebia.
amitom araa gasakviri, rom
qveynis konservatul nawilSi
ukve gaismis radikaluri mo-
wodebebi. ase magaliTad, po-
loneTis armiis generalma pe-
ter pitelma ganacxada, rom
arCevnebSi mmarTveli partiis
marcxis SemTxvevaSi, is ar ga-
moricxavs xelisuflebis Za-
lismieri meTodebiT SenarCu-
nebis SesaZleblobas. qveynis
eqs-prezidentma lex valensam
ki dasZina, rom savsebiT SesaZ-
lebelia poloneTSi daiwyos
samoqalaqo omi da qveynis mo-
saxleobis jansaRma nawilma
xelSi iaraRi aiRos.
kompania `saqarTvelosgan~
dazaralebuli moqalaqeebi
zianis anazRaurebas erovnuli
bankisgan moiTxoven
Tbilisis saqalaqo sasamar-
Tlo erovnuli bankis winaaR-
mdeg sazogadoebisaTvis erT
mniS v ne lo van da vas ga ni xi-
lavs. saqme exeba mikrosafinaso
organizacia „saqarTvelos“,
romelic maRali saprocen-
to ganakveTis reklamirebiT
klientebisgan didi odenobiT
fulad saxsrebs izidavda. mou-
lodnelad kompania gakotrda
da, Sedegad, Cveni araerTi moqa-
laqe dazaralda.
90-iani wlebidan kargad
gvaxsovs piramidis principiT
`moRvawe~ kompaniebi, romle-
bic adamianebs swraf gamdidre-
bas hpirdebodnen. ioli fulis
Sovnis survili xSirad imdenad
mimzidveli iyo, rom motyue-
buli moqalaqeebi kompaniebs
yovelgvari garantiis gareSe
andobdnen mTeli cxovrebis
ganmavlobaSi nagroveb Tanxebs.
mikrosafinaso organizacia
„sa qar T ve los“ xel m ZR va ne-
lebs - merab feraZes da Tamaz
lobJaniZes didi raodenobiT
Tanxis miTviseba-gaflangvis
gamo sasamarTlom mravalwli-
ani patimroba miusaja, magram
vin aunazRaurebs fulad zians
dazaralebulebul moqalaqe-
ebs da ra valdebuleba ekisre-
ba saxelmwifos? - jerjerobiT
am SekiTxvebze pasuxis gacemas
aravin Cqarobs.
kompania „saqarTvelos“ mea-
nabreebma gamosavlis Ziebis
procesSi aRmoaCines, rom am
TaRliTur sqemaSi lomis wili,
savaraudod, saxelmwifo ins-
titutebsac miuZRvis. dazara-
lebulebma sarCeli erovnuli
bankisa da saqarTvelos pro-
kuraturis winaaRmdeg Seita-
nes. sainteresoa am saqmesTan,
ra SuaSia saxelmwifo institu-
tebis pasuxismgebloba, Tumca
mosarCeleTa argumentebidan
gamomdinare, maTi pretenziebi
safuZvels moklebuli ar unda
iyos.
da za ra le bul Ta ad vo ka-
ti gaioz niJaraZe aRniSnavs:
„miuxedavad imisa, rom sisx-
lis samarTlis saqmeze msjav-
rdebul pirebs dazaralebul-
Ta sasargeblod daekisraT
fuladi Tanxebis anazRaureba,
sa sa mar T lo ga dawy ve ti le-
ba fizikurad ver sruldeba.
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merab feraZis, Tamaz lobJani-
Zisa da Tamar metrevelis saq-
mis ganxilvisas gamoirkva, rom
Sps safinanso kompania „saqar-
Tvelom“, sadac fuladi Tan-
xebi anabrebis saxiT Setanili
hqondaT Cems marwmuneblebs
jer kidev 2012 wlidan, erov-
nuli bankisTvis cnobili iyo
safinanso organizacia „saqar-
T ve los“ po li ti ka, mag ram
mas, rogorc licenziis gamcem
organos, araviTari zomebi ar
miuRia. sasamarTlo sxdoma-
ze mowmis saxiT dakiTxulma
erovnuli bankis erTma Tanam-
Sromelma daadastura es faq-
tobrivi garemoeba. aRniSnulis
Sesaxeb cnobili iyo saqarT-
velos prokuraturisTvisac,
magram masac ar miuRia aravi-
Tari zomebi. Sesabamisad, daza-
ralebulebi axla ukve erovnu-
li bankisa da prokuraturisgan
iTxoven zianis anazRaurebas.
saqmis masalebidan irkveva,
rom mopasuxeebi sarCels ar
cnoben, ar eTanxmebian da sasa-
marTlos sTxoven, ar daakma-
yofilos moqalaqeTa moTxov-
na. Tumca, kanonis mixedviT, Tu
sisxlis samarTlis erT saqme-
ze gamoZiebis mier dadgenilia
erovnuli bankis gulgrilo-
ba, mas marTlac mouwevs daza-
ralebul moqalaqeTa zianis
anazRaureba. cnobisTvis, erov-
nuli banki valdebuli iyo,
rogorc safinanso institut-
ze licenziis gamcem organos,
ekontrolebina ukanono saqmi-
anobaSi SemCneuli organizacia,
daesaja, SeeCerebina saqmianoba,
damatebiT daejarimebina Tanxe-
bis aramarTebulad brunvisa da
moqalqeTagan dagrovili pre-
tenziebis gamo. rac ar gaakeTa
da, Sedegad, araerTi moqalaqe
dazaralda. am saqmeSi ra Sua-
Sia prokuraturis organoebis
roli, risken migvaniSnebs dac-
vis mxare, gaurkvevelia.
ma Ra li sa zo ga do eb r i vi
interesis gamo Tvals mivadev-
nebT am sasamarTlo process,
imeds vitovebT, rom simarTle
dadgindeba da dazaralebule-
bis pretenziebi dakmayofilde-
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katari evropas gazis SewyvetiT emuqreba
ukve aTi dRea, omis cecxli
gizgizebs axlo aRmosavleTSi,
magram mis Caqrobas aravin Cqa-
robs. piriqiT, calkeuli poli-
tikosebi kocons navTs Tu ara,
fiCxs mainc ayrian. gansakuTre-
biT amerikis SeerTebul Stateb-
Si `qorebad~ wodebuli poli-
tikosebi arian agresiulebi.
`hamasis~ moulodneli Sete-
va israelis armiam dagvianebiT,
magram mainc SeaCera. manamde Sei-
araRebulma, teroristulad
aRiarebulma dajgufebam uam-
ravi adamianis mokvla moaswro,
maT Soris, bavSvebis, aiyvanes
mZevlebi da Tavi Razas seqtors
Seafares. sabrZolo mdgomare-
obaSi moyvanili israelis avi-
acia dRemde bombavs Razas seq-
tors. aT dReSi dabombvebs ori
aTasze meti mSvidobiani mosax-
le Seewira, maT Soris, aTeu-
lobiT bavSvi. israelis jari
akontrolebs Razas seqtorTan
sazRvars da mimdebare terito-
rias. miuxedavad gatarebuli
zomebisa, israelel samxedro-
ebs uxdebaT, aRkveTon `hamasis~
mebrZolebis qveyanaSi SeRwevis
mcdeloba. sruli datvirTviT
muSaobs sahaero dacvis `rkinis
TaRad~ wodebuli sistema, rad-
gan `hamasi~ saraketo Setevebs
ganagrZobs.
axlo aRmosavleTSi sabr-
Zolo moqmedebebis gaaqtiure-
bisTanave, amerikis SeerTebul-
ma Statebma xmelTaSua zRvaSi
israelis dasaxmareblad ato-
muri aviamzidi `jerald for-
di~ gagzavna. gemi ki hqvia, mag-
ram, faqtobrivad, wyalSi moZ-
ravi qalaqia. aviamzidis ekipaJi
2500 samxedro mosamsaxurisgan
Sedgeba. masze ganTavsebulia 90
TviTmfrinavi, maT Soris, uax-
loesi modifikaciis vertmfre-
nebi, aqvs sakuTari avtonomiu-
ri sahaero Tavdacvis sistema.
mokled, srulfasovani samxed-
ro bazaa, romelic ukve israe-
lis sanapiros siaxlovesaa. amis
garda, xmelTaSua zRvaSi penta-
gonma meore aviamzidi gaagzavna.
aviamzidis gagzavnis garda,
`hamasis~ Setevis meore dRes-
ve aSS-idan israelSi Cafrinda
ori samxedro-satvirTo TviT-
mfrinavi, romlebmac samxedro
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adgilebze.
mosaxleobas gasul kviras
kvlav mimarTa israelis premi-
er-ministrma beniamin neTaniahum.
misi gancxadebiT, Seqmnili viTa-
rebidan gamomdinare da qveyana-
Si saomari mdgomareobis gamo,
aucileblad miaCnia sagangebo
mTavrobis Seqmna. mogvianebiT
neTaniahus ideas qneseTma mxari
dauWira. israelis Tavdacvis
ministrma sagangebod ganacxa-
da, rom dajgufeba `hamassa~ da
mis daqvemdebarebaSi arsebuli
infrastruqturas mTlianad
gaanadgureben, blokadaSi moaq-
ceven Razas seqtors mSvidobian
mosaxleobasTan erTad. garda
amisa, moiTxoves palestinele-
bis ganadgureba, rac ukve geno-
cidia.
sagangebod daavala aSS-is
prezidentma jo baidenma saxel-
mwifo departamentis mdivans
entoni blinkens, israelSi
Casuliyo. Cinovnikma davaleba
gasul paraskevs Seasrula. `...
israelSi Camovedi ara marto
rogorc saxelmwifo mdivani,
aramed, rogorc ebraeli... vid-
re aSS arsebobs, martoebs ar
mogiwevT Tavis dacva,~ _ uTxra
blinkenma maspinZlebs. neTania-
hum madloba gadauxada blin-
kens, baidens da, saerTod, aSS-s,
daxmarebisTvis. aqve gavixse-
nebT, rom mTavar, ZiriTad mokav-
Sire qveynebs Soris urTier-
Toba wlis dasawyisSi imdenad
daiZaba, neTaniahum Cinovnikebs
aukrZala mis gareSe aSS-Si vizi-
tebis ganxorcieleba.
israelidan blinkeni iorda-
niaSi Cavida, sadac maspinZle-
bis garda, palestinis liders
mahmud abass Sexvda, romelsac
Tavisi pretenziebi aqvs israe-
lisa da aSS-is mimarT. Tumca,
blinkenis gancxadebiT :`...isra-
elis xelisuflebas ara marto
ufleba, movaleobac aqvs, daic-
vas Tavisi mosaxleoba~. blin-
keni Cavida egvipteSic. Tumca,
axlo aRmosavleTSi ganxorci-
elebul mis voiaJs eqspertebi
araefeqtianad miiCneven.
saxelmwifo mdivnis Sem-
deg israelSi aSS-is Tavdacvis
ministri loid ostini Cavida.
`...axla neitralitetis dacvis
dro ar aris. aSS yvelafers gaa-
keTebs, raTa israelma miiRos im
raodenobis iaraRi, rac sWirde-
ba~, _ ganacxada man. aRsaniSna-
via, rom israelSi Cavida evro-
kavSiris erT-erTi xelmZRvane-
li ursula fon der laieni, ra
mizniT, ucnobia. saerTodac, ra
SuaSia evrokavSiri axlo aRmo-
savleTSi?!
aravin uaryofs, rom nebis-
mier qveyanas Tavdacvis ufle-
ba-movaleoba aqvs. Tumca, isra-
elis mier ganxorcielebuli
samxedro oparacias gadaWarbe-
bulad miiCneven arabuli qveyne-
bi. `hamasis~ infrastruqture-
bis garda, daibomba qalaqi Raza,
sadac, praqtikulad, daungre-
veli Senoba aRar darCa. dang-
reulia saavadmyofoebi, ris
gamoc pacientebs eqimebi pir-
dapir Ria cis qveS uweven dax-
marebas. Razas seqtors ar mie-
wodeba eleqtroenergia, aRar
aqvT sawvavi transportisTvis.
viTareba humanitarul kriziss
miuaxlovda. palestineleb-
ma israelis armia fosforiani
Wurvebis gamoyenebaSi daadana-
Saules. Znelia simarTlis dad-
gena, radgan seqtorSi uSuqobis
gamo cudi kavSiria, iq Sesvlaze
ki laparakic zedmetia. sahae-
ro dabombvebis Sedegad bevri
mSvidobiani mosaxlea daRupu-
li, maT Soris, bavSvebi. `hama-
sis~ gancxadebiT, israelis mier
seqtoris dabombvas mZevlebic
Seewirnen, maT Soris, ucxoele-
bic. amasobaSi ki `hamasi~ kvlav
ganagrZobs saraketo Setevebs
israelis qalaqebze.
ukve ramdenime dRea, israeli
saxmeleTo SetevebisTvis emza-
deba, risTvisac sazRvris siax-
loves Tavi mouyares didZali
raodenobis cocxal Zalebs,
tankebs, javSanteqnikas. Razas
seqtoris CardiloeTi raio-
nebis mosaxleobas mouwodes,
datovon sacxovreblebi da
samxreTisken wavidnen, radgan
saxmeleTo operaciis dawyebas
apireben. israelis xelisufle-
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bis gancxadebiT, maT surT, mSvi-
dobian mosaxleobaSi msxverp-
li aicilon Tavidan. Tumca,
sad unda dabinavdnen devnilebi,
ucnobia, radgan samxreT rai-
onSi aranairi pirobebi ar aris
maT dasabinaveblad. arc trans-
portia, romliTac mosaxleoba
wasvlas SeZlebda.
gaugebaria, rogor moxdeba
milionze meti macxovreblis
erTbaSad gadayvana, magram isra-
elis xelisuflebas es ar ain-
teresebs, maTi mizani `hamasis~
mebrZolebis sruli ganadgure-
baa. gavrcelebuli informaci-
iT, ramdenime aTasi macxovre-
beli ukve wavida samxreTisken,
zogi manqaniT, umetesoba fexiT.
rogorc iuwyebian, maT israelis
jarebma cecxli gauxsnes, rasac
msxverpli mohyva. aRsaniSnavia,
rom teritoriebis dasatoveb-
lad Tavdapirvelad xalxs 24
saaTi misces, vada ramdenjerme
gadawies. rTul viTarebaze isic
metyvelebs, rom nato-s gene-
ralurma mdivanma iens stol-
tenbergma neTaniahus mouwoda,
`hamasis~ winaRmdeg mxolod
proporciuli Zala gamoiyenos.
Razas seqtoris sahaero masi-
urma dabombvebma arabuli sam-
yaros ukmayofileba gamoiwvia.
katari imuqreba _ Tu Razaze
Setevebi gagrZeldeba, evropas
gazis miwodebas Seuwyvitavs.
iranelebma mouwodes isra-
els, Sewyviton Razas dabomb-
va, `...Torem xval gvian iqneba~,
_ gaafrTxiles is. TurqeTisa
da CineTis xelisuflebis gan-
cxadebiT, israelis moqmedeba
Tavdacvis farglebs gascda.
ucnobia, ras moimoqmedebs liba-
ni. Tumca, iqauri SeiaraRebuli
formireba `hezbola~ drodad-
ro Setevebs axorcielebs isra-
elze. palestinelebis mxardam-
Weri aqciebi imarTeba amerikasa
da evropis qveynebSi. araofi-
cialuri monacemebiT, evropa-
Si 25 mln-ze meti musulmania
da aravin icis, maTgan ramdenia
radikaluri Sexedulebis. eqs-
pertebi arcTu usafuZvlod
SiSoben, evropaSi migrantebsa
da adgilobriv mosaxleobas
Soris radikaluri dapirispi-
reba ar moxdes, risi niSnebic,
samwuxarod, arsebobs.
saxmeleTo operacia Razas
seqtorSi martivi rom ar iqneba,
amas Tavad israelis maRalCino-
sani samxedroebic adastureben.
iq uamravi gvirabia, romelsac
Tavs afareben `hamasis~ mebr-
Zolebi. radikalebis gasanad-
gureblad qalaqebis mTlianad
dangreva gaxdeba saWiro. gvi-
rabebi did siRrmezea gayvanili.
maT dasangrevad israeli Zlie-
ri moqmedebis bombebis gamoye-
nebas apirebs, romlebsac aSS-is-
gan miiReben. samxedro eqsper-
tebs ainteresebT, rogor SeZle-
ben tankebi viwro teritoriaze
manevrirebas. maT miaCniaT, rom
omi droSi gaiweleba. polito-
logebi SiSoben, omi ar gascdes
israel-palestinis sazRvrebs
da regionul, uares SemTxveva-
18.X. 2023 w.
Si, axal msoflio omSi ar gada-
izardos, risi safrTxec rea-
lurad arsebobs.
aRmosavleT aziaSic aras-
tabiluri viTareba mas Semdeg
kidev ufro gamwvavda, rodesac
aSS-ma CineTis zRvaSi atomu-
ri aviamzidi `ronald reigani~
gaagzavna. mizani samxreT kore-
asTan erToblivi wvrTnebis
gamarTvaa, am faqtma gaaRiziana
CineTi, romelmac mzadyofnaSi
moiyvana sakuTari SeiaraRebu-
li Zalebi. CrdiloeTi korea
Riad imuqreba, rom saWiroebis
SemTxvevaSi samxreTSi arsebul
aSS-is yvela samxedro bazas gaa-
nadgurebs.
rogorc vxedavT, msofli-
os momavali bundovania. aSS-is
presam qveynis erT-erTi anoni-
mi maRalCinosnis gamonaTqva-
mi gaavrcela: `...Cven mzad unda
viyoT, erTdroulad SevebrZo-
loT CineTsa da ruseTs~.
analitikosebisTvis ucno-
bia, rogor SeZlebs aSS, daex-
maros erTdroulad ramdenime
qveyanas SeiaraRebiT. ukrainis
prezidenti vladimer zelens-
ki moulodnelad Cavida briu-
selSi nato-s qveynebis sagareo
saqmeTa ministrebis Sexvedraze.
igi SeSfoTebulia, rom isra-
elSi ganviTarebuli movlene-
bis gamo samxedro daxmarebas
Seumcireben. briuselSi ki mii-
Ro 200-milioniani daxmarebis
garantia, magram aliansSi civad
daxvdnen. stoltenbergma, mar-
Talia, msubuqad, magram xeli
ubiZga. ostinis TqmiT, `...aSS-s
Seswevs Zala, erTdroulad
daexmaros ukrainas da isra-
els~. jon kirbim, TeTri saxlis
oficialurma warmomadgenelma
ganacxada: ...Cven davexmarebiT
ukrainas, magram yvelafers aqvs
sazRvari...~.
jo baidenma filadelfiaSi
ganacxada: `vcdilobT, israels
hqondes yvelaferi, rac sWirde-
ba, magram gvaRelvebs humanita-
ruli viTarebas Razas seqtor-
Si~. amitomac mouwoda TeTri
saxlis administraciam isra-
els, gadados saxmeleTo ope-
racia.
politikuri krizisi aSS-Si
kvlav grZeldeba. gasul kviras
kongresSi ver SeZles spikeris
arCeva. kandidati respublike-
li jim jordania, romelsac
mxars aqtiurad uWers donald
trampi. amavdroulad, respub-
likelebi iTxoven entoni blin-
kenis, loid ostinisa da jeik
salivanis (prezidentis TanaSem-
we Tavdacvisa da usafrTxoebis
sakiTxebSi) Tanamdebobebidan
gadayenebas, romlebic Tavs ver
arTmeven dakisrebul movaleo-
bebs.
rogorc vxedavT, msofli-
oSi viTareba yoveldRiurad
mwvavdeba. samwuxaroa, rom
jerac aravin gamoCnda, vinc
cxel Tavebs gaagrilebs da
mdgomareobas daaSoSminebs.
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gavixede da, qalebi Wylo-
pinebdnen, miSas misaRebi ixs-
neba, yvela msurvels SeeZleba
misvlao. amiduRda azrebi _
verafriT warmovidgine, rom
`ocneba~ ise daamuSaves, ise-
dac komfortulad mokotria-
le simulants axla misaRebsac
uxsnidnen.
gavixede da marTla misa-
Rebi ar davinaxe? gzad axali
kamer-freilinas samadlobeli
sityvac Semomxvda, axaldro-
ebis simulant kamos isev pre-
zidentad rom aRiqvams da asec
moixseniebs. erTi SexedviT, es
qali normalurs hgavs, magram
aba, amasa hyolia zemoTa ubanSi
mwyerebi! mxolod amas? Cinu-
ri warmoebis kamer-freili-
na sofo jafariZem mogvaxsena,
rom madloba ekuTvniT `erTi-
ani nacionaluri moZraobis~
wevrebsac, romelTa daxmarebi-
Ta da CarTulobiTac mixeil
saakaSvilis ofisi gaixsna. amaT
rom yvelas erTnairad aqvT
dacurebuli da, Sesabamisad,
miSas hangze mRerian, didi xania,
viciT, magram idea rom hqoni-
aT, romelsac saqarTvelos
Tavisufleba rqmevia, es mTlad
aRmafrTovanebeli saqmea!
es Citirekia kamer-freili-
na is ar brZandeba, kovidiste-
riis dros cru uadgilobaSi
sawol-fondebis gamgebeli rom
iyo, Tu is kidev sxva aris?
reebi arakuna qalma _ saa-
kaSvilisTvis yvelaze mniSv-
nelovani iyo, aris da iqneba
Cveni sazogadoebis azri da is
yovelTvis, rogorc idga Cveni
moqalaqeebis gverdiT, axlac,
am ofisis meSveobiT, SeZlebs,
rom TiToeuli maTganis gver-
diT idgeso. imdeni Sen dagimS-
venda cxvir-piri!
ra sainteresoa, es qali
saidan da vin amoaZvrina Cir-
gvebidan samzeoze? gana ramea,
esec iseTive Cveulebrivi nacia,
rogorc yvela, tvini rom aqvT
gadaglesili da dazombebule-
biviT erTsa da imave gazepire-
bul frazebs imeoreben _ mixe-
il saakaSvili putinis tyvea!
putinis ara, suslovis tyvea
kidev da lavrenti beriasi...
gavigeT, rom ibrZoleben
bolomde da Zalian male gai-
marjveben kidec, magram ra iara-
RiT apireben brZolas?
utifrobis zeoba moawyo am
`vinme qalma~: `yvelam kargad
viciT, sad aris mixeil saakaS-
vili! mixeil saakaSvili aris
rusuli reJimis tyve. Zalian
skeptikurad uyurebda xal-
xi da maT ar sjerodaT, rom
mixeil saakaSvili datovebda
ai, am Zalian did pativiscemas
da aRiarebas, rac mas ukrainaSi
hqonda da aqvs, magram man gadad-
ga Zalian rTuli da Zalian pat-
riotuli nabiji. is Camovida
imisaTvis, rom Cven erTad gava-
TavisufloT Cveni qveyana.~
es udReuri nakrebi _ maTgan
aris gasaTavisuflebeli saqar-
Tvelo da eseni romel saqarT-
velos aTavisufleben? am seqtas
cnobier-qvecnobierSi Tanabrad
daeleqa aw ukve nanax-nagula-
daRmaSeneblis mavzoleumi
vebi warmosaxviTi saqarTvelo,
sadac kvlav maTi beladi da misi
kaciWamiebi iqnebian.
geubnebiT, fsiqikuri aSli-
lobis axalaRmoCenili for-
ma aqvT, ai, Tu ara! kii, xom
yvelas gvegona, rom vicodiT,
sad aris mixeil saakaSvili, is
`vivamedSi~ tingicobs, magram
nuras ukacravad, ar gvcodnia
da isev TviTon Tu gagvanaT-
leben: `xalxo, Tqven ggoniaT,
miSa saakaSvilia is, vinc datu-
saRebulia?! rogori gulubr-
yviloebi xarT? klonia cixe-
Si. ialaRzea miSa, oRond sxva
saxiT da sxva pasportiT! sxva
rakursidan yvelaferi naTlad
Cans. miSa namdvilad 2 oqtom-
bers Semovida saqarTvelo-
Si. 1 oqtombers `dakavebuls~
meored xom ar daakavebdnen?!
frTxilad, mokeTeno, frTxi-
lad!!!! yvelaferi ise ar aris,
rogorc Cans cnobadi TvaliT!~
ama Ti cno bad-arac no ba di
TvaliT ra Cans, kargad uWvri-
timalon, magram `saakaSvilis
misaRebis~ danaxvam bavSvoba
gamaxsena. iluzionisti oTar
ratianis gamosvla iyo Tbili-
sis cirkSi da pirdaRebuli
vuyurebdiT didian-patarianad,
rogor ijda kostiumi sawer
magidasTan da uCinari kaci wer-
da, amoZravebda usulo sagnebs,
aqrobda maT da a.S. Cven ki ara,
iaponelebi iaponiaSi uyurebd-
nen mis gamosvlas gaognebule-
bi. ra vicodiT maSin lazeruli
aparatis arsebobis. hoda, `saa-
kaSvilis misaRebi~ swored rom
oTar ratianis sacirko nomris
`kabinets~ hgavs, `kastumi~ Cans,
tipi _ ara.
kargad SevaTvaliere `klo-
nis~ misaRebi da Taroze xel-
bor ki li gad mo kon wi a le bu-
liyo gamomwvevad. netav, raze
unda mianiSnebdes-meTqi? _
ameSala fiqrebi da dameZagra
tvini. is, rom klon-namdvili
saakaSvilis reJimi 9 weli bor-
kilebs adebda sruliad saqar-
Tvelos, imis gamosaxatavad
namdvilad ar dadebdnen; arc
is Seefereba, misi patimrobis
simbolod gamoefinaT _ kaci
patimrobaSi ar aris, xelbor-
kilis simware ukrainis Semdeg,
qeCoTi rodesac miaTrevdnen,
ar unaxavs, netav, ra daniSnu-
leba aqvs-meTqi? eWvneulad
gadavxede `misaRebs~, vifiqre,
aq sadme Soltic egdeba-meT-
qi, magram myisierad gaviazre,
rom Solti mofarebulSi ide-
ba... mTlad danamdvilebiT ver
vityvi, mnaxvelma qalebma unda
gaSolton xelborkildadebu-
li aRviraxsnili Tu piriqiT,
man unda gaSoltos axvintri-
cebuli qalebi, magram logiku-
rad, orive misaRebia.
Zalian damabnia `saakaSvi-
lis sazogadoebrivma ofisma~,
meoradebis maRaziaa, Tu ra xde-
ba? deda `kenzos~ 4 aTas dola-
riani jempriT dadis, Svils
tanisamoss swiraven _geubne-
biT, eseni, yvelani seriozulad
samkurnaloebi arian.
miSa-klonze fiqrebma ar
momasvena da boSaTa baronebic
ga max sen da, gar dac v li lebs
rom saflavad uZvirfasesi
nivTebiT gaZeZgil miwisqveSa
oTaxs uwyoben da Zvirfas man-
qanasac atanen saiqioSi _ kaci
cocxalia da ra mavzoleums
uwyoben, sul gagiJda nacseqta?
mavzoleumze lenini gamax-
senda. is gvamad mainc aris
wamoplakuli `oroTaxianSi~
da cocxaliao, gvamRerebdnen
70 weli, es Cvenis miSas klo-
ni cocxalia da, faqtobrivad,
mkvdar beladad gvasaReben.
politikurad mkvdari ki aris,
magram mainc...
meg re leb ma icod nen da
zogan axlac aris SemorCenili
micvalebulTan dakavSirebuli
ucnaurobebi, magram es mainc
nametania.
TviT miSa Tu misi klonic
rom xaroben? Zalian mixaria,
rom sofo jafariZem `enm~-sTan
erTad gaxsna Cemi misaRebi ofi-
si. Zalian mainteresebs xalxis
azri, Cveni xalxiT vcxovrob,
viZineb da viRviZeb. sofo uni-
Wieresi, umagresi mebrZoli da
qveynis didi patriotia. mok-
led, Tqveni imedi maqvso, _
Setyo bi ne bas Setyo bi ne ba ze
acxobs klienti `vivamedidan~.
egonos, rom am marazmiT misi
xalxic xarobs! iseTi dasab-
melia `didi qarTveli mwera-
li da sazogado moRvawe~ laSa
buRaZe, savaraudod, `ubornii-
danac~ gamovida da ise dawera:
`axla Semomxvda `mixeil saa-
kaSvilis misaRebis~ fotoebi
da Tavidan vifiqre, rom marina
abramoviCis instalaciaa. kidia
pijakebi, iqve devs botasebic
da win ki carieli magida dgas...
karTan warweriT: `saqarTve-
los prezidenti~, oRond, Tavad
subieqti iq ar mdebareobs.
hoda, ra aris es? eJen iones-
kos piesaa absurdis Janridan
Tu spiritistuli seansis sivr-
ce? Sexval, prezidentis pijaks
CauTqvam survils da botasi
ki misaRebis gamxsnelis xmiT
amogZaxebs: `gadagzavnilia~...
aba, oTaxSi Tavad ar zis da...
ukacravad, magram ras amas-
xaravebT am kacs, romelic obi-
eqturad mZime fsiqologiur da
fizikur mdgomareobaSia?!
SexedeT mis CarTvas sasamar-
Tloze da darwmundebiT... Tu
Tavs TviTonve imasxaravebs?!
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saerTo gazeTi 13
Tebdes yvelas, uTuod kargi
iqneboda. magram ukve gviania...
`mrevli~ pijakebTan komunika-
ciiTac kmayofilia~ (rac dawe-
ra, is gaaxleT. xeli cota ki
wavukari punqtuaciaze, magram
gavifiqre, ra mrjis-meTqi da
davanebe Tavi.)
gavxede da marTla Camoms-
xdaran misaRebSi deda-giuli-
dan dawyebuli, visac eswrafe-
boda `saakaSvilis misaRebSi~
miReba da netarebasTan erTad
saxeze aweriaT, rogor SurT
axa li ka mer-fre i li na si, ra
niWieri gogoa, me ratom ar
momivida azrad aseTi didebu-
li ideao. ufro magari iqne-
boda, kedelze frTagaSlili
ani wiT li Zis fi tu lic rom
mieWedebinaT. sulac ar iqne-
bo da dro Si ga we li li am ba-
vi, ga mom S ra li ise dac aris
da miWedebas raRa didi ambavi
unda.
CvenSi darCes da, niWieri Tu
ara, magari Sebertyili ki yofi-
la es axali sofo, jer is ra
gaCarxa kovidteroris dros da
axla es ra moigona da moawo-
na romeliRac miSas, an orives
erTad, namdvilsac da klon-
sac. gamolayundeba mere nacseq-
ta da daiwyebs gazepirebuli
frazebis raxuns, roca is ver
gaugiaT, ra xdeba maTi bela-
dis Tavs, cocxali mkvdari
hyavT, mkvdari cocxali, Tu
sulac, kloni?
ra sa sa ci lo e bi ari an,
oRond, boroti da mavnebeli
sazizRrad sasaciloebi...
zurab oSxereli
 14 saerTo gazeTi
netav, is gamagebina, vin moajadova Tu
dawyevla `erTiani nacionaluri moZrao-
ba?~ _ miamiti saxiT vikiTxavdi gulub-
ryvilod, magram gamecineba da iseTi xvix-
vini amitydeba, `tabula bicola~ Sars
momdebs, me vici aseTi sicili da Cemgan
moiparao.
ager, axla, `Cergo~ elene xoStari-
as aqilikebs: `aseTi principuloba, rasac
daviT kezeraSvilis promoutirebasa da
dacvaSi iCens, arc erTi ideologiuri
principis dacvaSi ar gamouvlenia. kvote-
bidan ise momasriala, gaRimebuli davrCi,
arada, sul ori ZiriTadi argumenti mqonda
roca mis politikaSi Semosvlas vuWerdi
mxars: saakaSvilisTvis sajaro winaaRmde-
gobis gaweva SeeZlo da genderul kvotebs
da qalebis pozitiur diskriminacias mxars
ar uWerda _ oriveSi gadamagdo, magram ai,
`kezera~ elenes yvelaze principuli arCe-
vani gamodga. netav, ratom?
Cven ar SevekvrebiT aravis, vinc oli-
garqias principulad ar emijneba. Cven ar
davuWerT mxars oligarqiis oligarqiiT
Canacvlebas!~
mTeli `erTiani nacionaluri moZra-
oba~, ragind martiv mamravlebad daiSa-
los, mainc erTni arian, magram garedan
sayureblad sxvanairi dasanaxia.
sefe sityva mainc gigi igulavam Tqva
im maTTvis mZime dros, iseTi, rom gvegona,
yurebs xelSi daaWerinebdnen, magram iseT
gasaWirSia `nacseqta~, erTi kaci isedac
asad eCvenebodaT da axla asi aTasis tol-
fasia, `sxva ramis Tqma undoda da sxvanai-
rad gamovidao~, amis Tqmas da `gapravebas~
ra udgas win, deficitSi moxvedrili sin-
disi Tu namusi.
saqme is gaxlavT, rom rac maSin igu-
lavam Tqva didi winaswarmetyveliviT,
etyoba dRemde axseneben, ar dauviwyes da
wara-mara aZaxeben. es daRdasmuli ki, egeb
ramenairad gamovisyido wamonayrantale-
bio, xan cementad moixseniebs mixeil saa-
kaSvils da xan dedamiwis RerZad.
aba, am sityvebis Tqma SeiZleboda?
gigi igulava: `yvelas kargad unda
gvesmodes, rom dRes saqarTvelos prob-
lema aris biZina ivaniSvili da misi ara-
formaluri mmarTveloba. mixeil saa-
kaSvili dRes aris mxolod da mxolod
sakuTari Tavis problema, mixeil saakaS-
vili TiToeuli CvenganisTvis aris dRes
adamianuri tkivili. es adamiani dRes aRar
asxivebs liderobas. me amas vambob gulis-
tkiviliT, imitom, rom es ar aris miSa
saakaSvili, romelic xalxs aerTianebda
2002 wels. Cven, politikosebi, yvelani
varT manqanebiviT, romlebic gemsaxure-
baT Tqven. rodesac manqana dakargavs Tavis
funqcias, magram is manqana kidev giyvars,
SeiZleba is daayeno da mouaro rogorc
antikvars da Tu is antikvarad ar iqca da
Tu is isev gawuxebs, maSin meore gadawy-
vetileba SeiZleba miiRo _ es manqana,
SeiZleba, moisrolo jarTSi. yvela poli-
tikosi varT am arCevanis winaSe~.
es Cvenis rqosani TeZoviCi romeli
politikosi myavs, magram jandabas, daib-
ralos, ai, miSas jarTobisa ki saintere-
soa…
ra qna im jado-kacma!
Camouqrola alaliviT da miput-
moputa `erTiani nacionaluri moZrao-
ba~. vinc igumana, ra moxdeboda, Seirgo,
rac moqafa da ZeZvnarSi miimala, darCeni
doylapiebi ki dganan axla da drodad-
ro politikis uRran tyeSi dakargulebi
erTmaneTis nakvalevsRa sunaven...
xma gavarda, `nacmos~ narCenebis nawi-
li kunZul kviprosze gailalao. didi
`xabe~, petre ciskariSvili, giorgi
botkoveli da daviT kirkitaZe rom das-
tur wavidnen `kezerasTan~, gavigeT, mag-
ram WiWe-kacis ambavi rogor aris, netav,
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daviT kalandia: `strategia aRma-
SenebelSi~ uaryofen, rom giorgi vaSa-
Ze daviT kezeraSvilTan Sesaxvedrad
kviprosSi gaemgzavra...
_ batoni giorgi ubralod gaemg-
zavra kviprosSi, _ Tqva oTxkuTxedma
manjgalaZem, _ weliwadis am dros is
kviprosSi dadis.
_ ratom dadis kviprosSi? _ hkiTxa
abezara korespondentma da didi mikro-
foni oTxkuTxeds pirTan miutana.
oTxkuTxedma mikrofons usuna,
daijRana da eWvianad hkiTxa: Cemamde
sad gedoT es mikrofoni?
cocxlad damarxulebi
_ aq me vsvam kiTxvebs, _ mkacrad
upasuxa korespondentma, _ da Tqven
valdebuli xarT, mipasuxoT, raTa ar
SeuSaloT xeli Cems profesionalur
saqmianobas.
oTxkuTxedi dafrTxa.
_ gpasuxobT, batoni giorgi dadis
kviprosSi, raTa ar Sexvdes kezeraS-
vils.
_ aba, ra unda kviprosSi?
_ iq... iq...… iq misi bebia cxov-
robs, _ uceb moifiqra oTxkuTxed-
ma manjgalaZem da gauxarda, _ diax,
uRran kviporosSi cxovrobs misi bebia,
bebia pelosi. bebia pelosis mosanaxu-
leblad wavida da kalaTiT Rvezeli
wauRo.
_ erTi Rvezeli?
_ ratom erTi? ori...
_ Tavze wiTeli qudi xom ar exura?
_ da Tqven ra iciT? _ gaukvirda
oTxkuTxeds.
_ Cven yvelaferi viciT, _ civad
miugo korespondentma, _ da gzaSi
albaT, kezeraSvili Sexvda da bebiisken
mimavali mokle gza uCvenaa?
_ me dumilis uflebas viyeneb, _
Tqva amayad oTxkuTxedma, romelsac
yovelTvis undoda am klasikuri wina-
dadebis Tqma da axla amisi saSualeba
mieca...~
ki, namdvilad ase iqneboda, rogorc
batoni daviTi brZanebs, radgan wyaroT-
mflobelma elisom rogorc ki dawera,
Tu gindaT, mogiyvebiT, ra moxda kunZul
kviprosze, larnakaSio (kviprosis eqvsi
raionidan erT-erTia, romlis dedaqala-
qic larnakaa), aJriamuldnen larnakis
wyaldaleulebi.
wyaroTmflobeli eliso: `mogiyveT
larnakaze saidumlo serobis detalebi?
rogorc mosalodneli iyo, partiis
menejmentis gamoZaxeba `biltmoris~ Sek-
rebis gamoZaxilia.
menejmenti miijiryvna _ `kezeram~,
melia imitom blataobs, rom Tqven xarT
usaqmurebi da verafers akeTebTo.
Tu ar gainZreviT da ar imuSavebT,
mogviwevs misi miRebao. gvaramia modis da
magasac didi mada rom ar gaexsnas, amitom
maqsimumi unda aCvenoT risi tr***i gaq-
vTo.
brZola siebzea da ara gamarjvebisT-
vis. cxadia, Cemzec iyo laparaki. detale-
bi vici, magram ar davwer!
P.S. mokled, ori nikas jibrze brZo-
lis axal gegmas velodebi.
ho, vano Caxsnilia am etapze, erTi
araformaluri mmarTveli dagvrCa opo-
ziciaSi.~
ise ucnaurad daaliandag-daazigzaga
im uCinarma jado-kacma mTeli `nacseqta~,
zig-zaueris kakal gulSi dakvrac aRar
uSveliT, _ arian Tu aRar arian, ver gau-
giaT.
zogadad, mexsiereba ar mRalatobs,
magram `nacseqtis~ `dviJeniebi~ 2012 wlis
Semdeg naklebad mainteresebda, amitom,
egeb ki vcdebi, magram ase maxsovs. `nac-
seqta~ Tavdapirvelad oTxma dabolilma
datova. ra vici, dabolilebi Tu ar iyv-
nen, partias `girCi~ ra pontSi daarqves?
mere kidev, xan pirdapir eTerSi qoTanSi
marixuanas rgavdnen da xan `girCi-mamao-
ebi~ Seqmnes (mgoni, is `girCic~ gaeyoT da
gadmocvivdnen girCis Teslebi TeTr-mwva-
ned...).
`warbebSetrusul goWze~ da mis `gir-
Cze~ naklebi riTi varo da `ekologiur
katastrofaSi moyolilma frinvelmac~
aatylaSuna mazuTiani frTebi da zurab
jafariZis gagirCebas Tavisi giorgi vaSa-
Zuri `axali saqarTvelo~ miadevna.
amis aranakleb dabolili da fanta-
#33 (725) 18.X
18.X. 2023 w.
ziori Wkua vatire, `axali saqarTvelos~
amSenebeli rom ar iyo, mixvda da `strate-
gia aRmaSeneblad~ gadaiqca, viTom didi
strategia, erTi nabiji aSorebs daviT
aRmaSenebels, magram mTavaria, Tavmjdo-
mare erqvas da kolmeurneobis Tavmjdo-
mareobasac sixaruliT daTanxmdeba. nu,
kolmeurneoba ar unda erqvas, `kibuci~
– mosula...
ar moasvena politikuri uZlure-
bis ganWvretis Rrma unarma da bolos
ise Seeso ekaliviT uxerxul adgilze,
rom miafurTxa sakuTar uSobel ideebs
da `did xabes~ miucucqda, gaverTiandeT,
saerTo strategiaze SevTanxmdeTo. im Cve-
nis nabeTqma kidev, oRond axla amanac ar
mcemoso (risi winaaRmdegobis Tavi aqvs
sportdarbazis gareT), saswrafod misca
dasturi da erToblivi brifingic dageg-
mes am `mniSvnelovani~ ambis sajarod gasa-
formeblad, magram `melia da misi razmi~
ar miiwvies. viRac tipma, baCo doliZe
rom yofila, amoigmina, Tqve Cemis pativ-
cemulebo, ra perspeqtiva aqvs Tqvens
gaerTianebas, 2024 wlis arCevnebisTvis
damoukideblad gebrZolaT, ar jobdao?
elaparake axla amas vaSaZe aRmaSeneblis
strategiaze, gaigebs rames?
`evropuli saqarTvelo~ TavisTvis
gadasrialda `mZinare piTonis~ Tamado-
biT da `mangusta~ daiyenes `nadzorad~...
mokled, oRond eliavaze `daSli-
lebSi~ nu CagvabarebT, satingicod mainc
dagvtoveT politarenaze da daSlile-
bi nulidan daviwyebT, iqiT darCeba nac-
populizmi da aqeT iqneba progresi da
Tavisuflebao. risgan da visgan Tavisuf-
ldebian es Cemis meoradi Jangiani WanWike-
bi? _ Turme mavnebluri araformaluri
reJimisgan.
isao, ki daviSaleT, veRarc ideebi
da azrebi Segviwyvia Conguris simebiviT
da veRarc nacdovlaTi gagviyvia, mag-
ram suliskveTeba da Svanckis gorisken
swrafva erTi gvaqvso.
faqtia, rom nigvzianeli qristine-
saviT erTimeoris miyolebiT gaubozd-
nen erTmaneTs, visi violini vis roial-
Sia da visi ena vis yurSi daslikinobs,
ver gaurkveviaT, sul `Citebi da Citebi~
dafrinaven. ver gafaCunebulan, maSinaT-
ve afrindeba erTi enatania didi Citi
da saidumlo serobebis ambebi depeSad
miaqvs CitTampyrobel elisosTan da ara
mxolod masTan.
Cavarda ivaniSvilis gegma, rom `erTi-
ani nacionaluri moZraoba~ dasustebu-
liyo da daSliliyo, viwyebT ganaxlebu-
li nacionaluri moZraobis axal gzaso,
_ gadavardnen utopiaSi mravalgulav-
nanaxi `nacebi~ da ganaxlebulad gada-
ewyvnen.
erTi `kaloda~ nacebi `didi xabes~
nakrebSia, Zvel nacebSi, tradiciulSi,
oRond TviT `xabes~ ra unda iq da vin
Setena wixliT, an ratom, `Citebsac~ ver
gaugiaT;
meore `kalodaSi~ sisxlismoyvare
nacebis naklebobaa da TiTqos raRacis
Sesacvlelad fafxuroben;
mesame `kaloda~ miSas `ukvdavi pol-
kia~, saeWvo fsiqikuri mdgomareobis mqo-
ne pirebis nakrebi, aRtkinebuli miSama-
dideblebi, `miSas misaRebSi~ gamofenili
botasebiT qronikuli daavadebebisgan
rom ikurnebian da miSas nacvami maisu-
ridan momdinare mirons rom sakuTari
TvaliT xedaven. abela seTuris pontSi
axladaRzevebuli sofo jafariZe udgaT,
axaldroebis mdedri kvaWi kvaWantiraZe.
axla xuta ufrosis xmiT vikiTxav
da zogierTebs mauzersac davutrialeb
cxvirwin: aba, axla vin aris cocxlad
damarxuli?!
zura oSxereli
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Sarpis ideebis safuZveli
iyo misi rwmena, rom diqtatu-
rasTan brZolis araZaladob-
rivi meTodebi Zaladobrivze
bevrad efeqtiania. sociolo-
gis sityvebiT, Tu opozicia
Zaladobis gziT midis, upi-
ratesoba TiTqmis yovelTvis
moqmedi reJimis mxaresaa. mec-
niers miaCnda, rom `diqtato-
rebi Zaladobis gamosayeneblad
yovelTvis mzad arian~. Uufro
metic, Sarpi varaudobda, rom
mSvidobani meTodebiT miRweu-
li cvlilebebi ufro mdgradi
iyo.
Sarps miaCnda, rom reJimis
Sesacvlelad aucilebeli iyo
misi susti wertilis moZebna,
dartymis im wertilSi miyeneba
da amisTvis Tavisi 198 araZala-
dobrivi meTodis gamoyenebisken
mouwodebda.
Sarpis meTodikebSi mSvido-
biani taqtikebis garda, rogo-
ricaa droSebi da simboluri
ferebi (amitomacaa revoluci-
ebi feradi), mis siebSi bevri
sadavo meTodicaa (rogori-
caa TviTdawva, yalbi dokumen-
tebis damzadeba da aqtivebis
xelSi Cagdeba) da Zaladobri-
vi meTodic (magaliTad, amboxi
– jariskacebisa da mezRvaure-
bis ajanyeba meTaurebis wina-
aRmdeg). amitom Sarpis meTo-
dikebi araZaladobrivi sulac
ar aris. piriqiT, xSirad maTi
gamoyeneba Zalovan struqtu-
rebs aiZulebda, protestante-
bis winaaRmdeg ZaladobisTvis
miemarTaT. mecniers esmoda,
rom mis mimdevrebs safrTxe
elodaT, magram sjeroda, rom
Zalovani struqturebis sisas-
tikis gamoCena da protestan-
tebis `sakraluri msxverpli~
reJimis mxardaWeras Seasus-
tebda.
rogorc erT-erTma eqsper-
tma aRniSna, romelic ferad
re vo lu ci eb sa da `rbi li
Zalis~ problemebs Seiswavlis,
Sarpis idea imaSi mdgomareobs,
rom droTa ganmavlobaSi Tavis
mxareze gadaiyvanos Zalovani
struqturebi, daanaxvos, rom
isini ubralo xalxis winaaRm-
deg gamodian, sinamdvileSi ki
mis mxares unda idgnen. `vidre
es awyobT, gamoiyeneba araZala-
dobrivi meTodebi, roca upira-
tesoba reJimis mowinaaRmdegee-
bis mxareze gadadis, maSin yvela
saSualebas iyeneben _ qonebis
dazianebidan dawyebuli teri-
toriebis dapyrobiT damTavre-
buli~, _ ganacxada eqspertma.
Sar pis me To di kis me o re
mniSvnelovani punqti opozi-
ciaSi Camoyalibebuli strate-
giuli gegmis arsebobaa. mec-
nieri 1989 wels tianianimenis
moedanze momxdari tragikuli
movlenebis mowme gaxda. igi
ixsenebda, rom is aRafrTova-
na protestantebis Tavganwir-
vam da simamacem, magram daam-
wuxra iman, rom maT moqmedebis
gegma ar hqondaT. amitom igi
Tavis mimdevrebs strategiuli
gegmis Sedgenas da mis wignSi
aRwerili ramdenime meTodikis
erTdroulad gamoyenebas sTa-
vazobda.
Sarpi did mniSvnelobas ani-
Webda SezRudul kampaniebs,
romlebsac erTi konkretuli
problemis gadaWra an calke-
uli usamarTlobis aRmofxv-
idumali mister Sarpi -
feradi revoluciebis mama
ra SeeZloT: magaliTad, axali
kanonis an SezRudvebis gauq-
meba, romelmac moqalaqeebis
ukmayofileba gamoiwvia. war-
matebebis seria xalxs sakuTar
ZalaSi daarwmunebs da reJim-
Tan brZolis impulss miscemso,
ambobda Sarpi.
amasTan, mecnieri mouwo-
debda Tavis mimdevrebs, xeli-
suflebasTan molaparakebebze
didi imedebi ar daemyarebinaT:
`molaparakebebi imis mixedviT
warimarTeba, vis rogori zomis
joxi aqvs magidis qveS damalu-
li, romelic Zalauflebisa
da Zalis gamoxatulebaa~, _
ambobda jin Sarpi.
Sarpis Tezisebs novato-
ruls da gamomgoneblurs ver
uwodeb. amas TviTonac aRiareb-
da: `me araferi gamomigonebia,
ubralod, ganvazogade warsu-
lis saprotesto moZraobebis
gakveTilebi~.
Sarpi mravali wlis ganmav-
lobaSi Seiswavlida mahaTma
gandis filosofias da brita-
neTis kolonializmTan brZo-
lis gamocdilebas, amitom ame-
rikeli mkvlevris Txzulebebi
indoeli sazogado moRvawis
ideebis gadamuSaveba ufro iyo.
gandis Sesaxeb romantizebuli
warmodgena Seiqmna, rogorc
asketsa da `mSvidobis mtred-
ze~, sinamdvileSi, man sakmaod
seriozuli programa moamzada
indoeTSi britaneTis batono-
bis gasauqmeblad. swored am
programas aviTarebda Sarpi
Tavis wignebSi da garda ekono-
mikuri winaaRmdegobisa, araZa-
ladobrivi revoluciebisa da
masobrivi mSvidobiani protis-
tic meqanizmebic daumata.
revoluciuri moZraobebis
brZolaSi Zalauflebis mosa-
poveblad Zaladobisa da ara-
Zaladobis problematikas fun-
damenturad Seiswavlida Sar-
pis bevri winamorbedi. zogierT
maTgans Sarpi Tavisi STagone-
bis wyarod moixseniebda: aris-
toteles da Tomas gobss, hen-
ri torosa da martin luTer
king-umcross. mis wignebSi lev
tolstois ideebic aris Sesu-
li, romelmac ramdenime Tavisi
literaturuli da filosofi-
uri Sroma miuZRvna `borote-
bisTvis winaaRmdegobis arga-
wevas~.
faqtobrivad, Sarpi Tavis
winamorbedTa swavlebebis uni-
versalizaciiTa da militari-
zaciiT iyo dakavebuli da isi-
ni politikur teqnologiad
aqcia.
misi mTavari `monapovari~
is iyo, rom man ukuagdo yvela
moralur-eTikuri safuZveli,
tiraniisgan da kolonialuri
batonobisgan gaTavisuflebu-
is saintereso da samarTlia-
ni idea mmarTveli reJimebis
cvli le be bis ab so lu tu rad
uprincipo teqnologiad aqcia.
miuxedavad imisa, rom Sarpi
werda, rom misi Sromebi mxo-
lod avtoritaruli da diqta-
toruli reJimebis winaaRmdeg
iyo mimarTuli, sinamdvileSi,
isini yvelgan gamoiyeneboda,
sadac aSS-is interesebi adgi-
lobrivi politikuri elite-
bis winaaRmdegobas awydeboda.
sociologs akritikebdnen
sakuTari Teoriis universali-
zaciisken swrafvasa da zedme-
tad gaubraloebaSi, socialu-
ri, kulturuli, eTnikuri da
religiuri faqtorebis uar-
yofaSi, romlebic saprotes-
to moZraobis formirebasa da
mis Sansebze uSualo gavlenas
axdenda, magram swored misi
ideebis ubraloeba da univer-
saloba gaxda misi warmatebis
garantia. misi wignebi daweri-
lia ubralo eniT da warmoad-
gens ubralo da gasagebi Tezi-
sebis krebuls, moqmedebis erT-
gvar saxelmZRvanelos.
mkvlevari Tu aqtivisti?
ame ri ke li so ci o lo gis
Teoriuli mosazrebebi popu-
laruli ver gaxdeboda, praq-
ti ka Si ase Ti war ma te bu li
rom ar yofiliyo: politiku-
ri ryevebi, jer sabWoTa kav-
SirSi, Semdeg ki postsabWoTa
sivrceSi 1990-2000-ian wleb-
Si, Sarpis Sromebis SesaniSnav
reklamad iqca. misi instituti
solidur finansur daxmarebas
iRebda iseTi struqturebisgan,
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rogoricaa amerikis mSvidobis
instituti, demokratiis mxar-
daWeris nacionaluri fondi,
fordis fondi da saerTaSori-
so respublikuri instituti,
romelsac jon makkeini xelmZR-
vanelobda.
vin afinansebs
proamerikul Zalebs
mTel msoflioSi?
Sarps araerTxel aRuniS-
navs, rom, pirvel rigSi, igi
mkvlevaria da ara aqtivisti.
magram aris movlenebi, romleb-
zec amerikelma sociologma
pasuxismgebloba aiRo, Tanac
sakmao siamayiT: baltiispi-
reTis sabWoTa respublikeb-
Si disidenturi moZraobebis
afeTqebaze, romlebic ssr kav-
Siris Semdagenlobidan gasv-
lisTvis ibrZodnen. `diax, es
simarTlea. amis gamo wayenebul
brals vaRiareb, radgan did
miRwevad miviCnev~, _ ganacxada
Sarpma.
1980-ian wlebis baltiispi-
reTSi Zalas ikrebda moZraoba,
romelic sabWoTa kavSiridan
gasvlisTvis ibrZoda. amis ukan
idga albert ainStainis insti-
tuti.
pirveli kontaqti moskov-
Si Sedga, roca Sarpma waikiTxa
leqciebis seria ssr kavSiris
mec ni e re ba Ta aka de mi a Si da
Tavisi axali wigni `sazogado-
ebrivi Tavdacva~ baltiispire-
Tis respubliekbis warmomad-
genlebs usaxsovra.
mog vi a ne biT ame ri ke li
sociologi piradad uwevda
konsultaciebs saprotesto
moZraobebis liderebs: latvi-
aSi _ talavs iunziss, rome-
lic damokideblobis Semdeg
Tavdacvis ministris posts
ikavebda, litvaSi _ audrius
butkiaviCuss, romelis imave
posts ikavebda. baltiispireli
disidentebi arasodes malav-
dnen, rom aqtiurad iyenebdnen
Sarpis meTodebs, butkiaviCusma
ki ganacxada, rom birTvul bomb-
sa da amerikeli mkvlevris wigns
Soris wigns airCevda.
bela gvelesiani
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meore msoflio omis monawile qveynebi

ungreTi
omSi monawileobis perio-
di: 1941 wlis 27 ivnisi _ 1945
wlis 8 maisi (1411 dRe).
mosaxleoba: 9,2 mln adamia-
ni (1941).
SeiaraRebuli Zalebi: 400
aTasi adamiani (27 fexosani
divizia, 2 motorizebuli bri-
gada, 2 kavaleristTa brigada,
1 samTo-msrolelTa briga-
da), daaxloebiT 300 tanki, 269
TviTmfrinavi.
qvey nis xel m ZR va ne lo ba:
regenti mikloS xorti (1920
wlis 21 marti _ 1944 wlis
15 oqtomberi), eris beladi
ferenc salaSi (1944 wlis 16
oqtomberi _ 1045 wlis 4 apri-
li). paralelurad, 1944 wlis
22 dekembridan 1945 wlis 15
noembramde, moqmedebda droe-
biTi prosabWoTa xelisufleba
debrecenSi, romelsac premier-
ministris movaleobis droebi-
Ti Semsrulebeli bela miklo-
Si xelmZRvanelobda.
omSi monawileobis isto-
ria: miuxedavad imisa, rom ung-
reTi formalurad neitralur
qveynad rCeboda, misma jarebma
1938 wels slovakeTis samxre-
Tis, xolo 1941 wels iugos-
laviis CrdiloeTis okupireba
moaxdines. 1941 wlis 27 ivniss
ungreTma omi gamoucxada sab-
WoTa kavSirs da jarebi ger-
maniis dasaxmareblad gagzav-
na. ungrelebi saomar moqmede-
bebs awarmoebdnen ukrainaSi,
kerZod, germanelebis zurgSi
partizanebis winaaRmdeg ibr-
Zodnen. 1944 wlis 19 marts ger-
maniam ungreTis okupacia moax-
dina, raTa misi omidan gasvla
ar daeSva. 1944 wlis agvistoSi
xortma ssr kavSirTan sazavo
molaparakebebi daiwyo. seqtem-
berSi sabWoTa jaris nawilebi
ungreTis teritoriaze Sevid-
nen. 1944 wlis 15 oqtombers
germanelebma xorti gadaayenes
da ungreli faSistebis lide-
riT ferenc salaSiT Caanacv-
les. 1945 wlis 13 Tebervals
sabWoTa jarebma aiRes buda-
peSti, ungreTis jarebma Sewy-
vites winaaRmdegoba. realuri
Zalaufleba qveyanaSi sabWoTa
administraciis xelSi aRmoC-
nda.
da na kar ge bi: sxva das x va
monacemebiT, daiRupa daaxlo-
ebiT 120-dan 200 aTasamde sam-
xedro mosamsaxure; samoqala-
qo mosaxleobas Soris danakar-
gebma 450 aTass miaRwia.
Sedegebi: ungreTis mrewve-
lobis 24% ganadgurda. omis
Semdeg qveyanam sabWoTa kav-
Sirs reparaciis saxiT 200 mln
dolari gadauxada, Cexoslova-
kiasa da iugoslavias ki 50 mln
dolari TiToeuls. ungreTma
dakarga yvela teritoria, rom-
lebic omis wlebSi SeiZina da
sabWoTa kavSiris gavlenis sfe-
roSi moeqca.
venesuela
omSi monawileobis perio-
di: 1945 wlis 15 Tebervali-2
seqtemberi (199 dRe).
mosaxleoba: 4,3, mln adamia-
ni (1945 w.).
SeiaraRebuli Zalebi: 15
aTasi adamiani (1938 w.).
qvey nis xel m ZR va ne lo ba :
prezidenti isaias medina anga-
rita 1941 wlis 5 maisi _ 1945
wlis 19 oqtomberi),
omSi monawileobis isto-
ria: 1939 wlis 4 seqtembers
venesuelam ganacxada, rom omSi
neitralitets SeinarCunebda.
1941 wlis maisSi xelisuflebis
Secvlis Semdeg, axalma proame-
rikelma prezidentma germanias-
Tan da mis mokavSire qveynebTan
diplomatiuri urTierTobe-
bis gawyvetis Sesaxeb ganacxa-
da, magram omSi CarTva mxolod
1945 wlis 15 Tebervals gadawy-
vita, roca germaniisa da iapo-
niis damarcxeba aSkara gaxda.
danakargebi: ar aris regis-
trirebuli.
Se de ge bi: om ma nav Tob ze
moTxovnis zrda ganapiroba.
misi mopoveba venesuelaSi 21,6-
dan (1942) 56,5 (1946) mln tonam-
de gaizarda. Sesabamisad, imata
eqsportiT miRebulma Semosav-
lebmac.
gvatemala
omSi monawileobis perio-
di: 1941 wlis 8 dekemberi _ 1945
wlis 2 seqtemberi (1364 dRe).
mosaxleoba: 2,2 mln adamia-
ni (1941 w.).
SeiaraRebuli Zalebi: 2 aTa-
si adamiani (1938 w.).
qvey nis xel m ZR va ne lo ba:
prezidenti xorxe ubiko kasta-
nieda (1931 wlis 14 Tebervali _
1944 wlis 4 ivlisi), preziden-
tis movaleobis Semsrulebeli
federiko ponse vandesi (1944
wlis 4 ivlisidan 20 oqtomb-
ramde), prezidenti xuan xose
arevalo (1945 wlis 31 marti _
1951 wlis 15 marti).
omSi monawileobis isto-
ria: 1941 wlis 8 dekembers aSS-
is zewoliT gvatemalis mTav-
robam omi gamoucxada iaponias,
12 dekembers ki germaniasa da
italias, ris Semdegac amerike-
lebs TavianTi samxedro-sazR-
vao da samxedro-sahaero baze-
bi dauTmo. omamde prezidenti
kastanieda mxars uWerda germa-
nel mewarmeebs, magram 1941 wlis
Semdeg yavis bevri plantaciis
nacionalizacia moxda, romle-
bic maT ekuTvnodaT. gvatema-
lis SeiaraRebuli Zalebi omSi
monawileobas ar iRebdnen.
danakargebi: ar aris regis-
trirebuli.
Sedegebi: amerikulma inves-
ticiebma qveynis ekonomikur
ganviTarebas Seuwyo xeli.
saberZneTi
omSi monawileobis perio-
di: 1940 wlis 28 oqtomberi _
1945 wlis 8 maisi (1653 weli).
mosaxleoba: 7,4 mln adamia-
ni (1940 w.).
SeiaraRebuli Zalebi: 414
aTasi adamiani; 19 fexosanTa
divizia, 1 motorizebuli divi-
zia, 1 kavaleristTa divizia;
257 TviTmfrinavi, 1 kreiseri, 2
msubuqi kreiseri, 8 esmineci, 6
wyalqveSa gemi, 15 torpedoiani
kateri.
qvey nis xel m ZR va ne lo ba :
mefe georg II (1935 wlis 4 noem-
beri _ 1947 wlis 7 noemberi),
premier-ministri ioanis metak-
sasi (1936 wlis 13 aprili _ 1941
wlis 29 ianvari), aleksandros
korizisi (1941 wlis 29 ianvari
_ 18 aprili), emanuil widerosi
(1941 wlis 18-23 aprili), geor-
gios ColakoRlu (kolabora-
cionisti, 1942 wlis 2 dekemberi
_ 1943 wlis 7 aprili), ioanis
ralisi (kolaboracionisti,
1943 wlis 7 aprili _ 1944 wlis
4 oqtomberi), sofoklis venize-
losi (4-18 oqtomberi, 1944 w.),
geirgius papandreu (1944 wlis
18 oqtomberi _ 1945 wlis 3 ian-
vari), nikolas plastirasi (3-9
aprili, 1945 w.), petros vulga-
risi (9 aprili _ 17 oqtomberi,
1945 w.).
omSi monawileobis isto-
ria: 1940 wlis 28 oqtombers
ita li is ja re bi al ba ne Tis
te ri to ri i dan sa ber Z neT Si
SeiWrnen. saberZneTis jaris
nawilebma gauZles zewolas da
14 noembers Setevaze gadavid-
nen. 1941 wlis 6 aprils saber-
ZneTis jarma Sewyvita winaaRm-
degoba kontinentze, 27 aprils
ki geermanelebma aTeni daika-
ves. saberZneTis jaris gadar-
Cenili nawilebi ingliseleb-
Tan erTad icavdnen kunZul
kretas, magram germaniis jare-
bis sa ha e ro-sa de san to ope-
raciis Sedegad, 1941 wlis 20
maiss kunZulis datovebam mou-
wiaT. saberZneTis okupireba
moaxdines germaniis, italiisa
da bulgareTis jarebma. saber-
ZneTis jaris nawilebi ganag-
rZobdnen CrdiloeT afrikaSi
brZolas. 1942 wlis noembri-
dan saberZneTSi partizanuli
moZraoba daiwyo. 1944 wlis
oqtomberSi germaniis jarebi
saberZneTidan gavidnen, radgan
bal ka ne Tis na xe var kun Zul ze
sabWoTa jarebs SeeZloT maTi
dablokva, maTi adgili ki ing-
liselebma daikaves. qveyanaSi
samoqalaqo omi daiwyo komu-
nistebsa da monarqiis momxre-
ebs Soris, romelic 1945 wlis
Te ber v lam de grZel de bo da.
omSi monarqiis momxreebma gai-
marjves.
da na kar ge bi: sxvad sax va
monacemebiT, daiRupa 17-dan 100
aTas samxedromde, samoqalaqo
pirTa Soris danakargebma 400
aTass miaRwia.
Sedegebi: jer inglisele-
bis, mere ki aSS-is mxardaWe-
ris wyalobiT saberZneTma Tavi
daaRwia socialistur banakSi
gadasvlas. 1946 wels samoqala-
qo omi ganaxlda da 1949 wlamde
grZeldeboda. samoqalaqo omis
Sedegad komunisturi moZraoba
qveyanaSi CaaxSes da saberZneTSi
monarqia SenarCunda.
bela gvelesiani
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