that I saw, or found, was that everybody was disappointed in what they were promised. Theywere told they were going to get a shopping center. They either didn’t get it, or it was muchsmall scale that they thought. They were promised a recreation center and a golf course; and therecreation center either didn’t materialize or was smaller. And the golf course wasn’t as big asthey thought, etc. So he came back and told us that. So we said, “What we’ll do is before wesell a house, we’ll build a golf course, we’ll build a recreation center, and we’ll build a shoppingcenter.” So when the people came out, we didn’t have to promise them anything, we just said,“Go look at our golf course, go look at our recreation center.” Jim Boswell was on the board of Safeway, and he got them to come out here and open a store, so when we opened for sale, wehad Safeway out here, and we were all set for service.Ed: And Webb was completely supportive?Owen: Oh, yes. Yes. He was behind us all the way.Ed: From what I’ve read, he used to kid (I think it was) Breen about his old folks home.Owen: He might have. I don’t remember him doing that. I know he loved to come out herebecause the people believed that he actually built their house. And you’d see him when he cameout to make a speech; people would come up and just want to touch his arm so see that he wasreal. And he loved it. We had a couple of annual meetings out here. And he really enjoyed it.Ed: From what we hear, there were people who felt that if something went wrong, they couldcount on Webb to make it right.Owen: Yes, correct. And we had a lot of people – even in our own organization – saying thatSun City will never go. They’re going to die off, and then what are you going to be left with.You’re going to be left with empty, nobody there, and so forth and so on. But what they didn’trealize was that the houses would then continue to sell. The market kept getting bigger andbigger with people retiring, so it proved out to be just what we thought.Ed: We had a visitor the other day, (we can look at the guest book for the name). A man camein who now lives here who looked at this picture we have here to Opening Day, and he said,“You know, I was just a young man then. I came out on Monday and talked to the SalesManager about a job. But he wouldn’t hire me – he said I was too young.”Owen: I don’t believe that, but whatever. We thought we wanted some elderly sales people, butwe also wanted some young people because a young person to an old person would remind themof their son or nephew or whatever, and they could relate to somebody like that. So we did not just try to go with older people.Ed: He did go on to work for John Long in Maryvale. That’s where he spent his career, workingdown there. But I just thought that was kinda funny. You probably wouldn’t remember him,since he came and went so quickly.Owen: Back in those days, I forget who my Sales Manager was.