Collated notes form the group discussion at Libraries and Ebooks

Comments from the Introductions: Many university libraries are saying no to e-books due to affordability There are no common guidelines of use; therefore it is difficult determining good practice and bad practice for use of e-books Clients need to be able to fully understand electronic limitations and restriction of use There may only be two paths to go from here: to go with publishers or without them Indexing non-fiction works in various formats contents of non-fiction books still need to be provided

Vanessa asked attendees to discuss their experiences to date and any issues that arose from their libraries. Responses are collated below: DRM limitations onsite access Perpetual access changing vendors Limits to offsite access 1 ebook client loves it Technical models to meet library and client needs Was never one platform in a print world unrealistic? Expectation to hope for in an eworld ALIA needs to look after people of Australia educ, research, communities Is the only way forward with other models to break the monopoly of US/UK publishers eg Chinese publishers more flexible with ebooks & licensing what will happen if they move into the English language market in a big way? Current model Packages problematic probably include at least 50% fillers we dont want and cant delete Ebsco: ebook orders often not supplied not available outside US/UK but we are not advised, no automatic reorder of print version. Collection development librarians not notified of non supply Ebooks not cheaper than print in many cases no savings Ebooks not an option for some areas we collect from eg. SE Asia ebook industry skill undeveloped must continue to collect in print. Ebooks not always best option: print better for art books; display copies. We have not yet developed guidelines for ebook preferred / print preferred Publishers not selling ebooks to legal libraries o 3 main publishers: Legin Nexis CCH Reuters Dont have a platform o More interactive ebooks o Want to sell for each lawyer o Tight control o Purchase on ipad and then lend ipad

o Online or loose leaf services now appearing as ebooks o Monopoly market Fiction Big 6 o Allen & Unwin o Penguin o Whiley Give comparative advantage to Publishers that play well ALIA o Australian standards 2 standards Lend / print Get permission to print & lend Self publishing Perhaps use war tactics divide & conquer E-book users not understanding rules of eaquisition Libraries Authors in ebook As a user will purchase ebooks not available through library Level of content not available at TAFE level Collection management / weeding issues, dont want to deter clients & mention out of date content. Eg Safari Econtent integrated into courses (online) not easily weeded / removed Concurrent users clients dont realise there is a limit Text books availability, cost, concurrent users Demand / patron driven acquisition Need operational principles to acknowledge the different needs / environments of the types of libraries eg public, educational, state Options to buy print get e for free (but e version should have same use options) or vice versa Need to allow for downloading eBooks on public use networks and computers (ie multiple users using system but downloading separately) Reasonable fees for platform access or charge a fee per book instead of an annual platform access fee No minimum spend on eBooks should be required to be involved Platform systems must be simple one click Digital Certificates Digital Rights Management Proprietary File Formats Citation of flowable text Inter-library loans no ILL for ebooks or chapters of it Equity of access Budget implications Liability & indemnities in licences Evergreen licences with automatic renewals Resource intensive to manage licences Clients unaware if licence implications

Very restrictive licences with differences between different licences Named user options difficult to manage Direct contact by suppliers with library users often trying to sell more product this adds to the burden of managing content Burden of managing access Platform restrictions publishers not offering a range of options Use of reader devices loading and managing content ASC o Specialist subject areas o Limited formats o Specific subject area o Need to purchase collections o Perpetual access uncertain, but required NLA o Ebooks o Catalogue Ebsco DEEWR o Trialling Ebsco Academic o Thinks it requires Adobe digital o Not sure about licensing Libraries ACT Experiences o Limited availability o If cant finish in time goes away Check out Baen.com (www.baen.com) good manifesto on e-book publishing

Comments after the ALIA Draft Principles: Everything is in flux, be leaders, be aware of other parties Petition has started for authors who support e-books Library users are the Australian community, this cannot be forgotten People will want to come to libraries and use electronic material One access point for a piece of electronic material is terrifying Publishers are worried about self-publishing taking over As a result of the Open access movement: publically funded research is easily available Public pays for authors to produce work and then the public pays (again) for the finished product, not fair on the public to pay twice. NLA approached by smaller publishers and self-published authors to deposit, they are aware the importance of depositing Keep vigilant; keep looking at news as often as possible to keep up-to-date State Library of WA blog is a good resource, with regular updates.

Collated notes from the ALIA Draft Principles discussion

In law content is not substitutable still the authorisal report that must be had (for example). If these move to a format that libraries are locked out from accessing, what rote the library?

If I have no access to ebooks which my clients have access to how do I assist them to use it in an integrated way?

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This is too passive. The important stuff is on the other side of this sheet of paper. Its very polite. We need to advocate, we need to be clear & firm?

Write in plain English? Basic rights concerning ebooks

Unclear to anyone who is not a library

Does this mean anything to anyone outside libraries?

Access $ Access Access Privacy

Access regardless of device

Its not about format / device. Its about equity of access Some publishers are not convinced that libraries have any positive impact on their bottom line. Think that they can make more money by selling directly to end users

Publishers wanting to charge the same for their ebooks (which is $2000+) to individuals us they do to libraries this is in the legal sector.