MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Let the Zero Hour mention be over.

..(Interruptions).. I have called the Leader of the Opposition.

..(Interruptions).. Please sit down. ..(Interruptions)..
SHRIMATI BRINDA KARAT: Sir, I have given notice on precisely this
matter. ..(Interruptions).. I have given a notice. ..(Interruptions)..
MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Raashid Alvi, there is already a notice on
this subject. ..(Interruptions).. Please sit down. ..(Interruptions)..µÖÆü ŒµÖÖ ²ÖÖŸÖ
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..(Interruptions)..
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(Followed by 1q/KSK)

KSK/MCM/12.15/1Q
MR. DEPUTY CHAIRMAN: Mr. Raashid Alvi, there is already a notice on
this subject; you are too late..(Interruptions). †Ö¯Ö®Öê ®ÖÖê×™üÃÖ ŒµÖÖë ®ÖÆüà פüµÖÖ?
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I am telling, notice has already been given...(Interruptions). Now, Shri
Jaswant Singh.

MATTERS RAISED WITH PERMISSION OF THE CHAIR

REQUEST TO ELIMINATE ANOMALIES IN THE SIXTH PAY
COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS IN RESPECT OF
ARMED FORCES
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had, Sir, a demonstration of great discontent by the Armed Forces and
it is unusual for the Chiefs to have gone to the extent of voicing that
discontent in public. It is an unusual step, but it is an unusual
circumstance that has compelled them to do so, and, therefore, rather
than elaborating what the entire situation is, may I recommend for the
consideration of my good friend, the distinguished Minister for Defence,
and, of course, the hon. Prime Minister, to please consider very
sympathetically and attentively the questions that have been raised or
the aspects that have got underscored by the Sixth Pay Commission's
treatment of the Services? We have got focussed particularly on the
question of pension, on the question of pay relating to two ranks,
namely, Lieutenant Colonel and Lieutenant General - Lieutenant General,
when it comes to precedence; Lieutenant Colonel, when it comes to
precedence and pay. Let me submit to you, Sir, that one of the most
difficult questions to address and answer honestly is why does a soldier,
a sailor or an airman agree to die. Please, believe me, Sir, that the
principal motivation is izzat, and if you do not give izzat to the uniformed
community, then you are robbing them of the central impulse of military
morale. My recommendation for the Government, therefore, to consider
is to please examine the question of Inflation Indexing of pension, and
with that, is related the aspect which has now troubled us for some
years. I have had the benefit and distinction of being a Member of a
Committee established for the benefit and welfare of ex-servicemen long
years back when late Mrs. Gandhi was the Prime Minister and my
distinguished friend and colleague, Mr. K.P. Singh Deo, was the
Chairman of that Committee. We spent many months deliberating and
did make recommendations. Some of them have got implemented,
some have not. Number of steps have already been taken by the NDA
Government, but there still remains the question, which is troubling us,
of 'one rank - one pension'. May I recommend to the Government to
re-examine it in all its aspects and let us all work towards its timely
implementation? There are just few other recommendations. One is to
constitute a commission for the welfare of ex-servicemen and it ought to
be really a statutory commission so that this periodic problem does not
arise. Second is the question, and it has troubled us very greatly, of
resettlement of ex-servicemen. At the rank of Sawar or Jawan, a soldier
will retire and go on pension at the age of 36. Thirty-six year old person
is a young man, or a young woman, and still has full life ahead of him or
her. (continued by 1r - sk)
SK-GS/1R/12.20
SHRI JASWANT SINGH (CONTD.): And, it is a very great pity that this
trained and talented manpower is then taken away from the nation. It is
very useful national asset, Sir. A lot of recommendations have come.
But lateral induction, how many can be taken, as Jobs are scarce, I
recognise all that. But then, ex-servicemen are also a vital category,
and it is because of all these factors that today we have a shortage -- I
could be corrected on the actual figures -- of almost 18,000 personnel in
the officer rank. It is a very critical shortage. This is about re-
settlement.
My third recommendation is about representation of serving and
retired personnel in Pay Commission. The problem arises when you
constitute a Pay Commission and everyone else is represented but the
Services. If you have the Services represented, there will be a
representative of the services to articulate their views when the
Commission is functioning.
Sir, now the Government must attend to eliminating the anomalies
of the Sixth Pay Commission as far as the Services are concerned. I do
not wish to take the time of the House in listing all them out. The
Government is aware of what the anomalies are. Please attend to them.
A Group of Ministers has got constituted. But there is so much work
that the hon. Minister of External Affairs has, he can't do it all. There is
a very able Defence Minister, why not complete this under the Prime
Minister's care itself? Sir, please take on board that the prestige and
precedence aspects of the Services are vital categories of honour. It is
for this reason, Sir, that I have raised this issue.
(Ends)
RE. ECONOMIC IMBALANCE LEADING TO CONFLICTS IN THE
COUNTRY

DR. C.P. THAKUR (BIHAR): Thank you, Sir, for giving me the
opportunity to raise this very important issue in this House. This House
and also the other House witnessed turmoil a few days back because of
indecent and ugly behaviour caused to Bihari youths who went to
Maharashtra. I think that some misguided youths of Maharashtra did
this. But, Bihar is still burning. In today's newspaper, there is news
that all trains to Bihar have been cancelled. The root cause of the
trouble is that very little socio-economic development has taken place in
Bihar for the last 20 years. Therefore, I suggest that a special cell in the
Planning Commission and the Finance Ministry should be constituted to