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Table of Contents
FOREWORD
TITHING
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Origins of Tithing
Letting Go
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Tithing Testimonials
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SEEDING
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Principles of Seeding
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A Story of Seeding
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Seeding Testimonials
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WHATS NEXT?
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Foreword
Seeding and Tithing are the
left and right hands of God.
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Tithing
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Origins of Tithing
Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was
priest of God Most High, and he blessed Abram Then Abram gave
(Genesis 14:1820 NIV)
him a tenth of everything.
When the prophet Abram (later Abraham) was traveling home
with the riches of battle after warring with a nearby king, he was
met by a high priest in the order of God. This priest was
Melchizedek, and it was at that time that the Priesthood of
Melchizedek was established on the planet. Melchizedek was a
direct radiation or emanation of the man who later came and
was known as Jesus Christ.
The high priest in the order of God is Christ and is also referred
to as the Messiah. As soon as Abraham saw Melchizedek, the
wisdom of his heart knew he was seeing one who is with God.
Abraham knew intuitively that he was to give back 10 percent
of all that he had in the world to the representative of God, and
so began the practice of tithing. Melchizedek occupied the
office of the Christ, as did some other prophets of the Old
Testament. However, no one until the time of Jesus had the
tithed often received one hundredfold more than what they had
given. When they received their hundredfold, they then gave 10
percent of that.
In MSIA many people know about the principle of tithing
through my book, Wealth and Higher Consciousness. The book
says that when we give to ourselves first, we tithe to the Christ
within. Then, if we want to give to the church, we do that. If we
want to build an organization, we tithe to the organization, and
because we are part of the organization, we also get to receive of
its wealth.
So, you may want to check it out with a joyful attitude of
saying, Lord, I am open to receive whatever it is that you bless
me with. And then discover for yourself the blessing of
fulfilling Gods covenant.
God said,
Ten percent of everything
you own comes to me first.
Any increase you get,
I get 10 percent first.
Thats mine.
What He really should have said is
Its all mine and you can have 90 percent.
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Letting Go
Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in
my house. Test me in this, says the Lord Almighty, and see if I will
not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much
blessing that you will not have room enough for it. (Malachi 3:10 NIV)
One of the fundamental errors that we have as human beings is
greed, which is manifested mostly in terms of money or
monetary value. Greed, by its very nature, is a striking against
the riches within oneself because it appears that there is never
enough here in the world. Our eyes are always hungry.
We can help to break the greed pattern by tithing, giving 10
percent of our personal wealth. When we tithe, two levels are
activated a level here in this world and, at the same time, a
mystical, invisible level. The mystical is a communication
saying, You are abundant and handle abundance well, so heres
some more. The other level, in this world, is when we look at
our abundance and contribute joyfully through tithing. We are
actually cheerful about it. This action sets up a countenance that
seemed like you couldnt really own it, like it was someplace in
California, Chicago, or New York. When you tithe, you realize
that its right here. Wherever you are, thats the center.
I tell people, try it. Test it to see if its true or not. Almost
everybody who tithes keeps tithing because they say it works.
The Bible says to tithe, to try God, and hell pour blessings upon
you. Some people think, If I tithe, Ill get lots of money. That
isnt what was said. It was said that God will pour blessings upon
you. You may suddenly lose your headaches, or a backache may
disappear. Or you may find that your spouse is getting along real
well with you, or that the plumbing that was always getting
stuck is no longer stuck, or that the person at the bank who was
always hassling you has been transferred. These little miracles of
perfect timing take place, and you say, I cant believe this is all
due to tithing. And I just tell people, You have to check it out
in order to know for yourself. I know for me.
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Is Tithing Buying
Off God?
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In a sense, you really are. But youre not buying off some
cosmic God. Youre really addressing the God inside of yourself.
It works almost the same way as doing things for your basic self,
to get it to cooperate and to assist it in coming into line.
When you tithe, it is actually God buying you off, where God is
the center of the universe bringing you into alignment by the
process of tithing.
If you speak from your ego-center, saying, Im buying God off,
its absolutely a farce, its ridiculous, and it cannot be done.
Thats like buying the air off. The air buys you off by giving itself
to you.
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Tithing:
A Universal Law
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So, your part is to give joyfully and freely. You do not look for a
return, because then you are tempting God. You dont get Him
into a bargain. God does not negotiate. His law is forever. His law
is that of loving and giving, and He will not compromise that.
[He gives what He gives, not necessarily what you want or asked
for.] You must fulfill the regulations: get the tithe in the mail.
Once God gets it, he gives you the return, but you must do your
part first. He tells you the law, and then you start it. But, in
a way, God started it first because he gave us everything,
in abundance.
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Two Tithing Stories
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K.M.
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Dear John-Roger,
I am writing to share with you and my fellow ministers, initiates,
and Discourse subscribers about what my family has experienced
since we began tithing.
Two years ago we were broke. Wed been living in a rentcontrolled house for eight years and were suddenly evicted,
leaving us (myself, my wife, and our seven children) faced with
finding a new home. Rents had gone way up, and we had been
just scraping by before. We felt desperate.
There seemed to be no solution. No one wanted to rent to a
family with so many kids at any price, so in desperation I said to
my wife, Lets start tithing. Were not able to meet our financial
obligations anyway. Our phone had been shut off at least ten
times in the previous two years for nonpayment, and I dont
even know how many collection agencies were after us.
Anyway, we started tithing and, to make a long story short,
miracle after miracle started to take place for us. And, less than
two years later, we are living in a beautiful home (which we now
own), and my wife has a new business that gives her more
money and allows her more time off.
Before we started tithing, we owed thousands of dollars. Now we
are free of debt and well in the black. I just felt it was important
to let people know that tithing works.
B.Mc.
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Questions and Answers
on Tithing
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Is tithing tax-deductible?
Although MSIA is a tax-exempt organization and tithing qualifies
as a contribution, many people have decided not to claim their
tithes as tax deductions. This is because the money they tithe
does not belong to them in the first place; it is Gods, and they
prefer to have their blessings come through grace rather than
have the reward come through a tax deduction. Of course, it is up
to you to decide what you want to do, since tithing is a matter
between you and God.
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in your first tithe on July 1, you would make sure you have
tithed on all your increase from March 15 to July 1.
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I dont work, and I dont bring in any money. All the money I get
is from my husbands work. And when he gives me money for the
supermarket, I tithe 10 percent of that. Is that all right?
Its not really because thats not an increase to you. Thats the
supply for the family. If he gives you money for you, then Id
tithe on that. The money he gives you to buy food is not a
personal increase. Youre just acting as a steward, taking the
money and buying supplies for the household.
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When I first started tithing, within three weeks to the day, all
this negativity came on me and it was like, I dont have enough
money for this, and I dont have enough money for that. So I
tithed a double tithe, and the next week I made precisely that
amount of money.
Ive never talked about double-portion tithing, but you just now
brought it up. That is really creating more abundance.
Thanks to you, J-R, I knew what was going on when all the
feelings of lack came up. I had the wit to recognize the negative
power on me. So I went double time, and from that point on Ive
also been doing two hours of s.e.s with no problem.
Isnt that a great thing? You know it in yourself. Well, God bless
you for doing it, because thats where the blessing sits.
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What if I am a lawyer?
Then you would probably tithe on your gross income.
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between you and God, and the most important thing is that you
do it joyfully and unconditionally. God knows the intention of
your heart. So the key is to keep things straight in your heart and
youll be fine.
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I have a friend who has been going through a hard time and has
had difficulty earning money, and she says that every effort to do
things in the world has been thwarted these past three years or so.
When I suggest tithing or seeding, she says she doesn't want to,
and she gives me examples of people who have not seeded or tithed
and who are doing fine.
It really is too bad that she doesn't know of the God that comes
to those who tithe.
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Tithing Testimonials
After resisting tithing for many years, I finally took the plunge
over a year ago and started giving 1% a month. I am now up to
10%, and although I am earning more than I ever have before,
I can assure you that the money is the least of the many
blessings I have received from tithing.
P.F.
I live far better on 90 percent than I ever did on 100 percent.
D.C.
My life had been quite challenged financially these past
couple of years and yet Im just very aware how God takes care
of me in so many ways. Its very clear that God is my Partner
and tithing is just something I would not skip on as it has
been such a source of strength to me.
C.L.
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P.K.
We had a volunteer who just couldnt get tithing together it
just wasnt possible for her. She was dealing with a lot of
financial stress, so I told her, Why dont you try one percent?
She came back the next time, and said, You know, I upped it a
little, because it worked so well. And she continued with it and
is now up to 10 percent. Tithing really works. It gives me such
great joy and enthusiasm to write my check for tithing its the
happiest check I ever write.
S.N.
I dont know what tithing does, or what the result has been all
I know is that it feels great to write that tithing check.
J.T.
Another way that tithing blesses somebody is that it moves them
into realizing that they do have more than they need.
J.M.
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The blessings pour over and around me. I could never have
imagined the magnitude and it continues on. I trusted my
seed handled that. I tithed and put God before anything. Im
happy and living the sacred life Ive always wanted.
D.M.
When I tithe, I dont look for a reward. The gratitude I feel inside
is enough. In fact, for me its the best reward of all gratitude for
participating in tithing and gratitude for the blessings I receive
every day. I dont know where all these blessings come from.
There are constant miracles and surprises.
L.M.
It is one of my greatest pleasures to send my tithe to MSIA. The
bigger the check, the better I feel. My first tithing check was one
of the biggest thrills of my life. It feels so good to give back. I am
more open and receptive of Spirit and tithing has opened in me
a joyful place of worthiness to receive.
K.S.F.
When I write my tithing check, its as if my hand is lifted up to
the heavens and is met by the hand of the Lord, to guide and
protect me on my way home. Tithing paves the road ahead, so
that I never walk alone, I walk with the Lord.
P.C.
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K.W.
Tithing to me has been a life line to God. Over the years my
husband and I have experienced many financial ups and downs,
and through it all I have continued to tithe. The sense of joy and
trust in Spirit, and the sense of partnership with God that I
receive when tithing, has enabled me to stay in a place of
acceptance, peace, and joy despite all the challenges.
R.W.
Tithing has brought about an expansion and abundance in my
consciousness and in my life in so many ways money being
the least of them. Though the money is welcomed and
appreciated, its the expansion in Spirit and my openness to
experience all that life has to teach me, that I truly treasure.
K.K.
I have renewed my partnership with God. I have been tithing
weekly for a couple of months. The peace of mind, the joy in
participating, the joy of giving fills me beyond words. Its hard
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J.S.
When I am not tithing, miracles dont happen as often and
financial concerns are more persistent. I also feel contracted.
When I tithe, the partnership with God allows for a sense of freeflowing energy with regard to finances. I choose to tithe because
it is so uplifting and expansive for me.
L.D.
Tithing has made me more aware of my relationship with God.
I come into more joy as I write my tithing check. My day is
bigger and brighter, my consciousness clearer, and my love
more present.
J.L.
Tithing has been very good to me! Its often a process to write
that tithing check. I always come back to the knowing that I
need to be in the flow of Gods abundance. So, regardless of how
challenged I feel to part with my income, tithing is what I do. I
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want to, and need to, live within Gods grace and tithing is a big
part of that.
M.D.
What can I do for God, for all the riches and abundance he has
given me? How can I strengthen my connection, my relationship
with Spirit? Tithing is the answer to both questions. When I
awakened to the spiritual warrior within me, I knew that tithing
to the Traveler was a big key for me. I am grateful to give, and in
the process release and let go and fulfill my covenant with God.
Thank you.
K.F.R.
9/11 happened 6 blocks from my office. I was impacted
financially, but I decided to continue tithing. The Light energy
was very present in my office, and I found I was handling things
with ease. I received money from insurance coverage I never
knew I had, and new patients started to come in while old
patients began treatments they had put off. Most importantly, I
allowed myself to trust that God was My Partner, and that has
been abundantly apparent.
D.K.
Tithing is second nature to me. I dont consciously ask myself if
I am taking a breath of air. I cannot live without air. My
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P.B.
Many years ago, even though I was in a downward spiral, I
continued tithing, more out of habit than anything else. Now,
looking back, I recognize that tithing was what kept me
connected to God during those bleak times. I wasnt aware of it
at the time, but that habitual expression of trust in God is what
pulled me though the dark hours and has led me to a place of
awareness of all the riches in my life.
C.W.
Since I started tithing, I have noticed that more and more of the
time I am joyful. Its been a great affirmation of my partnership
with God. I am always grateful for the opportunity to give back
to God freely and with gratitude.
M.E.
Tithing has been the smartest investment that I have ever made.
The return is so much better than I ever thought it would be.
Since God is the Source of all things, I want to make sure that my
books are balanced with the Big Boss and that the doors of His
storehouses are always open to me. When I didnt tithe it was
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S.F.
I have been tithing for many years, and each time I sit down
to write my check, I take a moment to look at all I have been
given, both inwardly and in the world. I dont write the check
until I connect with my gratitude and feel it flowing inside of
me. When I write the check, it is a physical demonstration of
praising God for the gifts in my life. It is a way for me to rejoice
in my abundance.
L.B.
In the moment I am writing my tithing check, I find myself
lifted above my material concerns and in a place of joy. The
process of tithing accesses Gods energy for me, putting all else
in perspective. I love to tithe.
M.A.
Tithing for me is a trust that I am given what is needed to take
care of myself. It is a way for me to be consistent with that trust
and with my devotion for the Lord. It is also an act of gratitude
for all that is in my life.
H.B.
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L.B.F.
My experience with seeding and tithing has been incredible. I
have tithed for almost 19 years and have seen my wealth, both
physically and spiritually, expand every year. Seeding was
difficult at first because I wanted big things and didnt know
how much to seed. So I started seeding with a set amount per
month for me and my familys health, wealth, happiness,
abundance, prosperity, riches, loving, caring, and sharing. Thats
when miracles and dreams started coming true.
R.P.
My husband and I started tithing a number of years ago and
often struggled to make it work, sometimes even tithing on
credit. A few years ago we received a gift which has made our life
much easier. I attribute this to tithing.
L.W.
Tithing for me is such a pleasure and joy, I can hardly wait to get
my paycheck so I can write my tithing check. I have amazement
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God is intention.
When you tithe you make God your abundant focus.
Gods intention is in that focus,
so God will know right where to find you.
O.S.
I started tithing four years ago as a direct result of the tithing
cards and tithing video. When I dont tithe right away when I
receive my income, it creates problems because my mind finds
all sorts of reasons not to tithe. That definitely doesnt work for
me. When I do tithe right away, things work much better in my
life better ways, better times, and more ease and grace.
G.W.B.
After four years of reasons for not tithing, I have even more
reasons. So heres a check.
M.J.
Since you explained about tithing, I have had wonderful
experiences that go beyond my dreams. People now give me a lot
of things money, clothes, and MSIA workshops. It was hard at
first because I was tight money-wise. But now I am getting a lot
of freedom in money matters. I am able to make ends meet a lot
easier, and I know I am going out of debt. I thought it would be
nice to share with you how wonderful it is to tithe.
L.P.
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the bills, and I was grateful for the service I was receiving and
what a good deal it was to be able to turn on the lights and listen
to music. This was a great blessing to me and carried over into
many other areas as well. So it has transformed my attitude,
where before I was struggling with it.
It seems to me that people feel that they should try tithing
and sometimes they stick their toe in, but they dont take it
on as a way of life. My sense is that we are not trying it, but its
trying us, and we need to participate fully. I find that people who
go into it with the expectation of getting something out of it are
missing the point. The point is about joyful giving. Thats
the blessing.
J.H.
I love tithing. Its my favorite thing to do. It may seem a little
strange to some folks, but I find it one of the easiest things to do
and one of the easiest of my spiritual practices. I find handling
my 10 percent physical level well to be very challenging
sometimes. But tithing? Easy just write a check each month,
and Im demonstrating to God that I love Him and that He
comes first in my life.
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K.G.
Tithing is more than a myth, and its not true that somebody will
become rich with it. Tithing is a lifestyle, in which God is always
placed first, so that God places you first.
A.F.S.
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Seeding
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The Difference
Between Seeding and Tithing
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the feelings and the body, because on this planet, we know that,
in terms of the polarity, theres more negativity than there is the
positive. Thats because the Soul is so positive that it has to have
a tremendous balance of the negative polarity in order for it to
stay here.
The tithing process is a statement that none of these things on
the physical level belong to any of us. If your attitude is, I dont
have money to tithe to the church, youd probably better,
because you may lose even what you have. Or, as its stated in
the Bible, For everyone who has will be given more, and he will have
an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken
from him (Matthew 25:29 NIV)
Now, weve seen people experience poverty in the midst of
plenty, and their attitude is sometimes called poverty
consciousness. Its an attitude of, I dont have enough, and
there never will be enough. But listen, there is endless supply.
Once you understand that, you are on your way to a much
higher level of freedom.
One of the things that goes against seeding and tithing is
hoarding. Were vital, alive human beings, and part of our
existence here is loving, caring, and sharing. Hoarding goes
against that. Emotionally, it is a feeling of lack; financially, its
being miserly; physically, it manifests itself as disease.
When we start to place these blocks to abundance, we are out of
line with our own spiritual directive not the churchs, not the
Travelers our own. And when were out of that, we can tithe
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Principles
of Seeding
When you enter into seeding, there are some key principles to
keep in mind. If youre going to get a crop in the fall, what is the
first thing youre going to have to do in the spring? Plant it. So
you have to give first. You also have to know for what youre
giving. If you plant rye, dont expect a horse. If youre planting
wheat, dont expect rye. So to give first, there has to be a purpose
for the giving, Why am I going to do this? And its not an
altruistic statement. It has to be a self-possessed type of
statement: Im seeding because I want this. Then you lay out
what you want.
When you seed, you need to do it with the real faith of the heart.
You have to claim what you seed for, but you have to claim it
in Gods time and love. You also have to let God know that
youre his co-pilot, his partner. And although God is the
senior partner, you cant just seed and say, Ill let God decide
what to do, because Gods saying to you, You need to give me
a blueprint.
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show up. You have to make a path in order for them to come in,
and they come in on dollars or pesos or pounds, whatever is the
medium of exchange.
If you want to seed for something intangible (for example, a
relationship), you still need to put a value on it, and the only
value we all can really agree upon is money, so you determine
within you what that amount would be. Then you determine,
again by going within, the amount to seed for the value you have
placed on that intangible thing. If you want to seed for a spiritual
quality, such as clarity, you have to see what clarity would be
inside of you. If you think it is one thing and its actually much
higher, you may not get what you seeded for. Or you may get the
higher quality because God might know the intention of your
heart beyond your ability to say it.
Knowing how youre going to get there is not as critical as
knowing that youre going to get there and, in that, not having
any doubts, any second thoughts nothing except the holding
and the acting as though it is going to happen. This is not sitting
and thinking as though it might happen, but acting as though it
is happening.
You state what you want very clearly. Then you claim it as
already being here, which is conditioning the consciousness. To
receive, you need to act as though you have it; this is the faith
statement that it is already present. You get your purpose clear,
and if you get at cross-purposes with yourself, if you undermine
your seeding with doubt, your seeding rots and decays. It doesnt
bear good fruit.
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Its very important that you do not tell anyone the goal youre
seeding toward, that you are manifesting. Not your spouse, not
your Siamese twin, because they can very subtly, through not
seeing your vision, cast doubt upon what youve got. Youll buy
their doubt as your own doubt even if you dont want to. Then
when the negativity appears, they say, See, I was right. Then
you may say to yourself, Gee, I wonder if they really are right.
The god of opinion is now taking care of you and not the great
abundant God. The god of opinion doesnt deliver abundance,
health, and prosperity. It delivers rip down, tear down, and
alienation. Thats the law. The abundant God brings grace.
As a man thinketh, in his heart he becomes. Were creators. We
can create and see what we want and go for it. We can do the same
thing negatively because this process of creation doesnt care what
we go toward. If you get negative doubts and thoughts, the
process will manifest those for you. So in undertaking seeding,
you must understand that its a real tightrope balance in terms of
what youre going to keep holding in your mind. If you start
getting negative pictures or thoughts about something youre
seeding for, stop them immediately. Get up and walk around. Go
work off the negativity with physical movement throwing a
baseball or running around the block. Then come back to what
you want with a positive focus. You want to make sure youve got
this thing going in the right direction all the time, and you have
to watch your thoughts carefully.
There are parts of your consciousness that, if not addressed, will
allow doubt to creep in. A little bit of doubt starts to grow into
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great negativity, until what you see is negativity. And the terrible
news is that the doubt is also returned, based upon the principle
as you sow, so shall you reap. Some of you people have taken
that seriously enough to say, Do you mean that what Im getting
now is what I put out a long time ago? Exactly. How far back?
How long have you existed? Well, I dont know. Since you
dont know, start watching what you put out now. Its such a key
principle to say, You cant afford the luxury of a negative
thought. Its extremely important.
You might ask, Can I seed for a hundred million dollars?
Absolutely. Will I get it? I dont know. Can you have that
vision working so you can really see and feel it coming to you?
If you cant, you probably wont be getting that.
You can seed for as many things as you can hold a clear picture
of in your consciousness. You have to watch this because its a
pretty delicate balance that youre maintaining in yourself with
your environment. If you get caught in the greed of it, then you
get to receive of the greed, and you may not receive what you
wanted. Then you live in lack: I lack; therefore, I have greed.
But if you have abundance, you dont have lack, and, therefore,
you dont deal in greed. It often takes a while to transit across
some of your old, habitual personality patterns, and seeding
also assists you in getting free.
What do people get when they give? Sometimes, they just get
the satisfaction of giving. Seeding has to give you the satisfaction
of just doing it. You draw your picture and purposely design it.
You tell it to God, and you release it to God. Then you go on
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about your business. And if you see something else you want,
you seed again, and pretty soon the first one comes in and then
the next. When does it come in? WHEN IT COMES IN. What if
you dont get it within a certain period of time? I would say that
if it doesnt start to return in about a month, look to yourself to
see what happened. Maybe you need to be more patient. Maybe
you need to seed again for that same thing. Go inside yourself to
find out, because seeding is between you and God.
Energy follows thought. Thoughts persisted in produce the
feeling in the heart and the character that were going to be
developing. So seed with the real faith of the heart. You have to
claim it, but you have to claim it in Gods time and love, which
may not necessarily be yours. When you seed that way, with God
as your partner, those things then take place. And the reason
all this works is that you let go and give to God, joyfully
and unconditionally.
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Seeding
to the Church
Weve got people who have been in this church ten or fifteen
years who are now millionaires from tithing. Someone recently
said to me, I would like to have more money so I can give
more, so now Im telling you about seeding.
This is the one that Jesus did. Do you want to know the occasion
he did it? The multiplication of the fish and loaves is one of the
greatest demonstrations of seeding. And what happened when it
was all done? They had baskets full of what was left over
leftover, surplus, more than what people could eat, more than
what was necessary.
Were to have abundance and prosperity, but in the past we
never knew how to get it except under the law, which is by the
sweat of your brow. Seeding is under grace. Were giving it to
the church and saying, God is my unfailing supply. With God,
all things are possible. What were doing now is fulfilling the
spiritual law of tithing, maintaining that, and keeping it because
its a commandment. And with seeding, were also casting
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greater good of all, and we call that the church. Does it have to
be the Church of the Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness?
No, it can be another church. But if it doesnt work, try the
Church of MSIA.
Ill tell you something interesting as an example. I wanted a
palomino horse, and when I started looking for it, I must have
seen six or seven pictures of possible horses. A good friend of
mine was seeding to the church for me to get the palomino. (At
that time, I only suspected thats what he was doing; he never
told me, and I wasnt going to ask.)
One day, my friend said, I think I know where the palomino is.
We looked at some new pictures and said, Thats the one. The
pictures were in the forest, and a lady was riding on the horse.
We called up to get it, and the owner told us she had already
taken a deposit from somebody else. My friend found this hard
to accept and said, Wait a minute. Offer her more.
I said, Thats not the way this works. Were not competing with
anybody. So that horse went to the other people.
My friend told me a little while later, I seeded for that horse.
That was yours. I said, Tell me about the image you were
holding. So he told me, and I said, You never saw me on the
horse on the property. He said, No, I didnt. I just saw the
horse for you.
I told him, If its for me, youve got to put me in the picture with
the horse, and youve got to put both of us at Windermere. The
next day we received a phone call about another horse, and we
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drove out to see it. We both looked and said, Thats the
palomino. About a week later that horse was at Windermere, and
I was riding it.
God is going to direct you in how to get the harvest that you
have planted. Then here comes the real good news for the
church. You seed to the church to get the money. You get what
you want, and you tithe 10 percent of the increase. The church is
going to get the seeding and the tithe, and youre going to get the
bounty. Thats a win for you and for the church. And guess
who the church is? All of us. The church money magnet becomes
the money magnet for all of us, and the churchs land becomes a
money magnet for all of us, too.
You may be saying, With tithing and seeding, the church is
getting me coming and going. Right. But youre getting
everything in between. And that everything in between is a
tremendous amount. For example, lets say you seed $100
for a car, somebody gives you a $4,000 car, and then you tithe
$400. Thats giving $500 for a $4,000 car. Id do that any day or
every day.
Your relationship with God and your awareness of money and
how you can relate to it and pull it to you can be either your
restriction or your stepping-stone. Youre called upon to make
better use of your money, as well as your time, your thoughts,
your feelings, and your direction.
With seeding, God is your partner, and that is the highest good
that I know of. Youre saying to God, Im giving it to this church
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God is your Partner
You have to make the seeding enough so that you arent saying,
Well, God, heres my penny. Now give me a million dollars. Do
you think thats going to happen? If the answer is no, then you
know it wont happen, because you cant get it into the core of
your senses to bring about a connection with it and pull it
toward you. Its your karma that youre dealing with that sets it
for you, and everybodys got their own karma to deal with. But
when you start to have success with this, that karmic restriction
on your vision starts to leave because that success feeling goes,
Wow, I can enter into the abundance of this.
There are stories where people have seeded for money and the
dollars didnt come, so they said, It doesnt work. As soon as
you negate it, guess what happens. It doesnt work. If you seed
$35 hoping for $35,000, is that realistic? According to Divinity,
it is. According to us? I dont know. Is it realistic inside you? If
you cant make it realistic, guess what happens. Thats your
karma. Thats the thing that stops it.
So the next principle deals with what we might call your karma.
Its karmically written that some of you are never to be
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Seeding
Step by Step
2. You can seed for as many things as you want. However, if you
are new to this, we recommend that you start with one area,
so you can hold that focus and see it working.
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4. When you see it clearly, put it in the Light for the highest
good and make your claim. This claiming is the most
important part and is the essence of seeding. It is beautifully
summed up by Jesus the Christ when he said, Therefore I tell
you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received
it, and it will be yours. (Mark 11:24 NIV)
6. The final thing is that you give joyfully and with an attitude
of gratitude for the blessings that are already in your life. God
is the source of your supply, and so you let go of any concerns
about how you are going to get what you have seeded for.
That is in Gods hands, and God will bring it forward for you
in his own timing and in his own way.
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Seeding
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A Story of Seeding
Dear John-Roger,
I have a great story to tell you. Its a story about seeding.
Back around December, about the time I received the letter about
seeding, I was feeling that money was very scarce. My savings
were decimated, partly because I had started paying for things
that my parents usually covered for me (like school fees, books,
some car insurance, etc.). They could no longer afford to do so
because my dad, at that time, had been unemployed for well
over a year. So while I understood why my expenses had
increased, there was a constant battle in my mind. I was always
thinking and saying, I am so poor, or I cant afford this.
Then later, not wanting energy to follow those thoughts, Id
affirm abundance, but soon Id slip back into scarcity.
I figured that $500 would replenish my savings enough to make
me feel abundant again. So I seeded 10 percent on that. But even
before the $500 clicked in, things started changing.
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seeing what you want coming in, seeing yourself receiving it,
knowing you are going to get it. If you doubt it, the doubt goes
into the seed, and you can get negative things coming forward.
So this is why I say, dont tell anybody.
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say, God, its in your hands. If I get it, you deliver it. If I dont,
that seed is yours.
I know one person who did that and got fired from one job.
He then went down the street to another company and got hired
in the same type of position at an increased salary and with
better working conditions. He also found the woman he
eventually married.
How do I seed for things that arent material, that dont have a
price tag?
Lets say youre seeding for a better relationship. I tell people to
do an ideal scene of what that better relationship would be. Then
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Seeding says,
I know this future event will
come through Gods bounty.
How does God bring that to you?
However God does it.
And rarely does it come just
exactly the way you expect it.
close your eyes and go inside and ask yourself, How much is
this worth to me? And inside of you, you spontaneously come
up with a figure. You now have a value statement for yourself.
Then say to yourself, How much do I need to seed to make my
ideal scene happen? Then inside of you, you will get another
figure. And you seed that figure for that value for that better
relationship.
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I heard that if you have any doubts or negative thoughts, the seed
would go negative. Thats got me scared about seeding.
If you have doubt, which can cancel the seeding, and you dont
get what you wanted, you can feel like you threw your money
away. Then that stops you from seeding any more because you
will think that it doesnt work. So you may say, Im not going
to seed anymore because I do it negatively. The solution is to
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because what you take from the harvest is more seeds to plant
for another harvest. If you plant wheat in the field and it
comes up, if you dont harvest it, you will have no harvest
next year. So you must receive of what you are sowing.
Personally, I dont put any negativity into my seeding. I just dont
do it. Youve got to find out for yourself how you dont do it. In
fact, you have to find out for yourself how this entire process
works. Im just giving you some of the principles. It works so
many diverse ways that theres no way I could begin to tell it all
to you because its each persons blueprint of his or her own
karmic path of life.
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There are so many ways this can work, and I dont know all of
them. But I do know that it works according to you. Id be really
interested to have you try it and find out. And if it works, let us
know, because well have more information about how to live
this life better.
Can I talk about the thing Ive seeded for if I dont actually say
that Ive seeded for it?
I wouldnt mess around with that. Id keep that thing very sacred.
Does it matter whether I give the money first and then later
write it down?
Send the money first because then that makes you commit to
doing it. If you write it down first, its possible that youll never
get around to getting a perfect picture. Youll say, Well, maybe
this isnt quite right. Ill work on it a little while more. Send
your seeding with the general idea of what it is, because God
may read the intention of the heart and produce it for you
within hours.
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Seeding Testimonials
I would encourage anyone who has been contemplating tithing
and seeding to take the plunge, check it out, and give it time to
check you out. For me, this is not just a technique I am
committed to tithing and seeding the rest of my life. If a person
makes that commitment, they earn the title of Joyful Giver,
which is a glorious thing to become. I am a joyful giver.
J.H.
My daughter came home tonight and said, Mom, seeding
works. She told me that she had seeded $5 for her intention of
wealth in a PTS class. A couple of days later she entered a pay a
bill contest on the radio. She was then told she was a finalist for
the contest and to listen to the radio from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. for
the entire week to see if her name was picked as a winner. She set
the alarm for 6 a.m. this morning, and at about 7 a.m. she heard
her name called on the radio. She called in and won the
payment of a $500 bill. She said, Well, Mom, this makes a
believer out of a skeptic.
J.S.
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H. and H.
After I sent in my first ever seed, I immediately started looking
for that million-dollar Lotto to hit, which would bring me the
answer to my seed paying off my debts and ending my money
worries forever. I did seed for other things, but always with a
little uncertainty because I didnt get my first seed. Then one
night I started laughing uncontrollably as I realized that my
first seed had been answered quite a while ago not the way I
had pictured it, but in a far more perfect way that only God can
bring forward.
I have gotten my life together and have learned more discipline
and become more practical in how I handle money. More
importantly, I have learned to live in a consciousness of my
own blessings rather than in an envious consciousness of
looking at what others have and I dont. I no longer worry about
bills because they are paid as soon as they come in the mail.
How grateful I am to know that the blessings already are. And I
am living proof.
K.K.
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S.e.s (putting change in before s.e.s can really kick them in)
More humor
L.R.
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L.B.
People who havent been in the experience of tithing and
seeding have no idea what they are missing and what a magical,
mysterious process it is. Its not about money; its a whole other
process. A love affair develops with it. I would like to grab
everybody and tell them how great this process is and that they
just need to do it.
The other day someone came up to me and their life was going
well and they said to me, You taught me how to tithe. I cant
tell you how good that felt to be of service in that way. It was as
if my life were complete at that moment. I want to be clear that
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J.H.
Although I tithe and have known great benefits from tithing
(mostly through what seems to be spiritual gains), I had yet to
see any major reversal in my earthly money problems/beliefs.
My attitudes were very limited as to the power of Gods loving
and support. This has all changed since I have begun seeding.
I have learned to seed for what I want in all areas of my life. I
now know that God really is my Partner and always has been! I
found that I had been lazy and fruitless in my creations and had
been making no effort to hold for those things that I really
wanted for my life. I judged myself as unworthy to have good
and loving things. Living in my lack was extremely painful. I
didnt realize how painful until I stopped doing that stinking
thinking and moved into Gods grace by seeding.
Ive seeded again since that time, and more gains have begun to
be harvested from those seeds. Its not just the money that Im
gaining, but little unexpected areas of good news keep showing
up, and I have a new, uplifted outlook in my life. Life doesnt
seem to be so out-of-control for me. Im no longer whining
inside about how hard my life is. Now I praise God and thank
Him for all that I have, and I see everything I have, or have had,
as a gift from God all of it.
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S.J.S.
When I seed, in order to hold the vision on what I want, I use my
sanctuary. I have a garden in my sanctuary, which I call my
seeding garden. And I see each seed manifesting as a rose. Each
petal of the rose represents a quality or blessing. When I seed for
money, I see it on a bush in my garden, much like a money tree.
In addition, I also seed daily. Its a small amount and these seeds
are usually not for material things, but for qualities in my life
such as aware s.e.s or good health. I see them on my rose bush
and I go up to the roses and smell one of the petals and I take in
the fragrance of that quality.
J.H.
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Whats Next?
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Whats Next?
If you enjoyed the content of this book, we recommend that you
visit our websites, www.tithing.org and www.seeding.org, for
m o re inspirational testimonials and information about the
joyful process of giving to God unconditionally. If you would
like to seed or tithe to MSIA, all you need to do is send a check
or money order to the Church of the Movement of Spiritual
Inner Awareness (MSIA) at the address below.
You can also seed and tithe securely online at www.seeding.org
and www.tithing.org. If you intend to seed or tithe on a regular
basis, we would be delighted to send you a supply of secure
God Is My Partner envelopes. To make it even more convenient
for you, these specially designed envelopes have the postage
already paid.
Also available upon request is a Tithing Covenant card. Since
your commitment to tithe is sacred and is only between you and
God, the card is for you to keep to continually inspire you.
Feel free to call the MSIA office, or email paulkaye@msia.org if
you have any further questions regarding seeding or tithing.
May you be filled to overflowing with Gods blessings.
The Movement of Spiritual Inner Awareness
P.O. Box 513935
Los Angeles, California 90051-1935
(323) 737-4055
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