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THE
SENATE OF PAKISTAN
DEBATES
OFFICIAL REPORT
Thursday, March 25, 2010
(59
th
Session)
Volume III No. 04
(Nos. 1-10)

CONTENTS
Pages
1. Recitation from the Holy Quran 1
2. Questions and Answers 2-50
3. Leave of Absence ... 51-52
4. Point of Order:
i) Allotment of plot to Sports Woman who won Gold
Medal in SAARC Games

53-54
5. Presentation of: Report of the Standing Committee on
Finance, Revenue, Economic Affairs and Statistics and
Planning and Development..

55-59
6. Legislative Business: The Pakistan Engineering Council
(Amendment) Bill, 2010

60-77
7. Points of Order:
i) Load Shedding in the Country
ii) Handing over of JPMC to the Provincial
Government..
iii) Misinformation given by the National Insurance
Company regarding appointments and
regularization of employees

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Printed and Published by the Senate Secretariat, Islamabad
Volume III SP. III(04)/2010
No. 04 130
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SENATE OF PAKSTAN
SENATE DEBATES
Thursday, March 25, 2010

The Senate of Pakistan met in the Senate Hall (Parliament
House) slamabad at twenty seven minutes past five in the evening
with Mr. Chairman (Mr. Farooq Hamid Naek) in the Chair.
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22. *Senator Suriya Amiruddin: Will the Minister for
Housing and Works be pleased to state:
(a) the names, designation and names of departments of
the persons who were allotted Government
Accommodation under rule 15(2) of AAR~2002 since
rd November, 200 indicating also the date of
application, date of allotment and particulars of
accommodation allotted in each case; and
(b) the names, designation, names of departments of the
persons whose cases for allotment of accommodation
under the said rule are pending since that date
indicating also the date on which application was
received and the time by which the same will be
finalized in each case?
Senator Rehmatullah Kakar: Since this question
involves massive exercise for collecting information relating to date
of application, date of allotment and particulars of accommodation in

each case, therefore, the information is being firmed up will be
placed before the august House on next rota day.
Mr. Chairman: Any supplementary question? Question No.
2, Talha Mehmood Sahib.
2. *Senator Muhammad Talha Mahmood: Will the
Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources be pleased to state:
(a) the names of villages and localities in District Haripur
which have been supplied natural gas during the last
five years; and
(b) the names of villages and localities in that district to
which natural gas will be supplied during the current
financial year?
Syed Naveed Qamar: (a) The names of villages and
localities in District Haripur which have been supplied natural gas
during the last five years are enclosed at Annexure~.
(b) The names of villages and localities of the district
Haripur where natural gas will be supplied during the current
financial year are as follows:-
1. Pannian Village.
2. Naseem Town.
. Mian Dheri Sheikh Chohr.
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Mr. Chairman: Question No. 24, Talha Mehmood Sahib.
24. *Senator Muhammad Talha Mahmood: Will the
(a) the number of PSO filling stations in the country;
(b) the number of the said stations owned by the private
persons or companies;
(c) the rate of commission being charged by PSO from the
said persons or companies on various petroleum
products, CNG and other items; and.
(d) the criteria laid down for establishment of said filling
stations?
Syed Naveed Qamar: (a) The total numbers of PSO
Retail Outlets all over the country are 448, as on December 1,
200.
(b) All the retail outlets are owned by private persons.
(c) PSO charge distribution margins as allowed by
GOP/OGRA.
CNG: PSO receives franchise fee from the CNG operators,
which varies from 5% to 7% (given as under) of total CNG gross
sale proceeds based on the category of the Retail Outlet:
(a)Company Financed (CF) sites: 7%
(b) Mixed Financed/Dealer Financed A category %
(DFA) sites:
(c) Dealer Financed B Category (DFB) sites: 5%
(d) Retail Outlets: On receipt of application, site is
surveyed by field staff, if found feasible, concerned Business
Manager presents the case before Cross Functional Team (New
Vision & Gaseous Fuel) alongwith complete justification, trading area
potential, estimated sales etc. CFT reviews the case in line with

Company policy /guidelines and accordingly approve/disapprove the
proposal.
CNG Stations: Concerned Business Manager(s) identifies the
retail outlets on the basis of trading area potential and expected
sales. Then the dealer of the retail outlet approaches PSO for the
issuance of PSO CNG NOC. f the dealer is not willing for
investment, a dealer found investor is introduced for the
establishment of CNG station. Upon completion of PSO requisite
documents and Management Approval, PSO CNG NOC is issued to
the dealer/third party to install CNG station at PSO retail outlet.
Mr. Chairman: Question No. 25, Mir Wali Muhammad
Badini sahib.
25. *Senator Mir Wali Muhammad Badini: Will the
Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources be pleased to state
the names of cities in Balochistan having the facility of natural gas
indicating also the duration of load shedding of gas being observed
in each city?
Syed Naveed Qamar: Names of cities in Balochistan,
having the facility of natural gas, are mentioned hereunder:-

1 Quetta 12 Dera Murad Jamali
2 Pishin 1 Baba Kot
Huramzai 14 Tamboo
4 Ziarat 15 JatPat
5 Kalat 1 Usta Muhammad
Mangochar 17 Gandakha
7 Mastung 18 SuhbatPur
8 Sibi 1 Hub
Lehri 20 Bhag/SHORAN
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At present, there is no load shedding of natural gas in
Balochistan.
Mr. Chairman: Question No. 27, Saleh Shah sahib.
27. *Senator Maulana Muhammad Saleh Shah: Will the
Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources be pleased to state
whether there is any proposal under consideration of the
Government to supply natural gas to district Tank, NWFP, if so,
when?
Syed Naveed Qamar: Yes, there is a proposal under
consideration to supply natural gas to district Tank, NWFP.
SNGPL has so far laid 1.5 Kms of 8" dia
gas transmission line alongwith 8 Kms of supply main of 8" and "
dia.
However, internal distribution of 5 Kms as phase~1 will be
laid after improvement in law and order situation of the area and
thereafter the gas will be commissioned.
Mr. Chairman: Question No. 28, Muhammad Akbar Magsi
sahib. Reply not received. Question No.28 stands deferred. Question
No.2, Mir Wali Muhammad Badini sahib.
2. *Senator Mir Wali Muhammad Badini: Will the
Minister for Water and Power be pleased to state whether the
affectees of `Meerani Dam` have been compensated, if so, its
details?
Raja Pervaiz Ashraf: Affectees of Merani Dam have
been compensated to the tune of Rs.1,42.211 million, the details
of compensation is as under:-
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Sr. No. Description Compensation Paid
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1 Land Compensation 20.52
2 Trees (Fruit/Non~Fruit able) 40.420
Houses at RL 244 Ft. 7.017
4 Houses at RL 24 Ft. 5.211
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Mr. Chairman: Question No.0, Nawabzada Muhammad
Akbar Magsi sahib.
0. *Senator Nawabzada Muhammad Akbar Magsi: Will
the Minister for Petroleum and Natural Resources be pleased to
state:
(a) the names and place of domicile of the Managing
Directors of Sui Southern Gas Pipelines Company
Limited; and
(b) whether it is a fact that the number of the said
Managing Directors hailing from Sindh and Balochistan
is less than the prescribed quota, if so, the time by
which that deficiency will be made up?
Syed Naveed Qamar: (a) Given at Annexure~A.
(b) According to the rules of the company, it is not
required to follow any quota system. However, as regards to the
part (b) of the Question the prerogative to appoint Managing
Director of SSGC lies solely with the Government of Pakistan.

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Mr. Chairman: Question No.1, Nawabzada Muhammad
Akbar Magsi sahib.
1. *Nawabzada Muhammad Akbar Magsi: Will the
Minister for Water and Power be pleased to state the number of
coastal areas / villages of Balochistan electrified during the last five
years?
Raja Pervaiz Ashraf: The No. of villages electrified in
District Gwader of Makran Coastal area during the last five years
are given as under:-

Years No. of villages electrified
2005~0 0
200~07 1
2007~08 07
2008~0 24
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Mr. Chairman: Question No.2, Tahir Mashhadi sahib.
2. *Senator Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi:
Will the Minister for Culture be pleased to state the number of
foreign movies which were granted permission for exhibition in
Pakistan during the last three and half years indicating also the
terms and conditions for the said permission?
Minister for Culture: From 1st July, 200 to 1st
December, 200, 180 foreign movies have been permitted exhibition
in Pakistan.
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2. The application for certification of an imported film is
filed with the CBFC under Rule 10 of the Censorship of Film Rules,
180 and permission for exhibition is granted after examination of
film by the members of the Board in the light of the Censorship
Code provided under the `Censorship of Film Rules, 180`. The
terms and conditions for their exhibition in Pakistan are stipulated in
details in Motion Pictures Ordinance, 17 and Censorship of Film
Rules, 180.
Mr. Chairman: Any supplementary question? Yes, Tahir
Mashhadi sahib.
Senator Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi:
Yes sir, have a supplementary. would like to ask the honourable
Minister that; is the Pakistan Film ndustry booming? Are the ndian
films being allowed to be played in the cinema halls of Pakistan
and how are the people queuing up in large numbers because the
ndian Film ndustry is booming so much, is that why the ndian
films have been allowed to be imported to provide some relief to
the public or is it because they want to destroy the already
destroyed film industry of Pakistan? Thank you sir.
Mr. Chairman: Yes, Minister sahib. Bokhari sahib, where
is Minister for Culture?
Senator Syed Nayyer Hussain Bokhari: Sir, this
portfolio is with the Prime Minister.
Mr. Chairman: OK. Where is the Advisor?
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exactly the same rota day has come in on both the National
Assembly and here. myself have questions in the National
Assembly and am sure that people will be perturbed over there
that am not present over there. The timing coincidently is the
same and the rota day is the same in both the Houses and that is
why this confusion has come about. Whoever can take up the
questions now, we will do that and we will ensure that Ministers are
brought in from the National Assembly to answer the questions.
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4. *Senator Prof. Muhammad brahim Khan: Will the
(a) the estimated cost of Training Programme for
Systematic prospecting and mind development in small
gemstone lease holders of Malakand (NWFP); and
(b) the amount allocated by the Government for the said
scheme in PSDP 200~10 and the amount released
and spent so far?
Syed Naveed Qamar: (a) The estimated cost of the
scheme, titled, `Training programme for systematic prospecting and
mine development in small gemstone lease holders of Malakand
NWFP` was Rs 1.188 million. The scheme was executed by
Government of NWFP and finance through Federal PSDP.
(b) The amount allocated for the above mentioned scheme
in 200~10 is Rs 5.88 million. The Government of NWFP has
informed that project activities stand completed and also furnished
project completion report. Therefore expenditure during this fiscal
year is nil. During execution period from 2004 to 200 Rs. 7.75
million were released out of which Rs. .212 million were utilized.
Mr. Chairman: Any supplementary question? Yes, Haroon
Khan sahib.
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Petroleum and Natural Resources be pleased to state:
(a) the number of domestic, commercial and industrial Sui
Gas connections provided in the country by the present
Government with district~wise break up; and
(b) the procedure adopted for provision of the said
connections?
Syed Naveed Qamar: (a) The number of domestic,
commercial and industrial natural gas connections so far provided in
the country by the gas companies during the tenure of present
Government with district~wise break up is attached as Annexure~.
(b) The procedure adopted by SNGPL and SSGCL for
provision of the said connections is attached as
Annexure~ and Annexure~, respectively.
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Mr. Chairman: Next question Prof. brahim.
39. *Senator Prof. Muhammad brahim Khan: Will the
(a) the estimated cost of Exploration and Evaluation of
Coal Field of Chamalang~Bala Daka, Bahlol and Parts
of Ghazi Coal Basin in Balochistan; and
scheme in PSDP 200~10 and the amount released
and spent so far?
Syed Naveed Qamar: (a) The estimated cost of
exploration and evaluation of coal field of Chamalang~Bala Daka,
Bahlol and part of Ghazi coal Basin in Balochisatn is Rs 0.000
million.
(b) The amount allocated in PSDP 200~10 is Rs. 1.44
million. The amount released up to date is Rs. .84 million and
expenditure up to date is Rs. 2.818 million.
Mr. Chairman: Any supplementary? No supplementary.
Next question Mashhadi Sahib.
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honourable Senator has himself been the minister or the advisor for
mines and minerals in Sindh. He is fully aware of all the activities
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am glad to report that we have made significant progress as
compared to all the previous years that we wasted in trying to
exploit this resource of our country.
Mr. Chairman: Next question Mashhadi sahib, reply has
not been received. We will keep it on next rota day.
Senator Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi: Sir
the question is very simple.
Mr. Chairman: know but the answer has not come.
am not denying what you are saying.
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41. *Senator Muhammad Zahid Khan: Will the Minister for
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(a) the number of players belonging to NWFP who won
gold medals in the SAF Games 2010; and
(b) the steps taken by the Government to encourage the
said players?

Mir Aijaz Hussain Jakhrani (Minister for Sports): (a)
Following squash players belonging to NWFP formed a team that

[Question No.40 deferred for next rota day by the order of Mr. Chairman.]
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participated in 11th South Asian Games and won 2~Gold in Single
& Team event respectively:-

S. No. Names
(i) Mr. Aamir Atlas Khan
(ii) Mr. Farhan Zaman
(iii) Mr. Farhan Mehboob
(iv) Mr. Mansoor Zaman

(b) n order to encourage the said players, alongwith
other medal winners of 11th South Asian Games, Ministry of Sports
has moved a summary on 25th February, 2010 seeking approval of
the Prime Minister for payment of cash awards as per approved
policy.
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42. *Senator Abdur Rahim Khan Mandokhail: Will the
Minister for Religious Affairs be pleased to state the number of
doctors and paramedical staff sent for Hajj duty during the last five
years with province~wise break up?
Syed Hamid Saeed Kazmi (Minister for Religious
Affairs): 500 Doctors and 750 paramedical staff were sent for Hajj
duty during last five years. The Province~wise break~up, is as
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S. No. Province No of doctors No. of Para medics Total
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1. GHQ 250 75 25
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Total: 500 750 1250
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Chattha.
4. *Senator Naeem Hussain Chattha: Will the Minister
for Petroleum and Natural Resources be pleased to state whether it
is a fact that the supply of natural gas to villages Hussain Pur,
District Nankana Sahib and Tani Chak and Nawan Kot district
Sheikhupura, has been approved and funds released, if so, the
details of work done so far and the time by which gas will be
supplied to those villages?

Syed Naveed Qamar (Minister for Petroleum and
Natural Resources): Yes, it is a fact the supply of natural gas
to villages Hussain Pur, District Nankana Sahib and Tani Chak and
Nawan Kot district Sheikhupura, has been approved and funds
released.
Detailed status of supply of gas to the above villages is as
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HUSSAN PUR DSTRCT NANKANA SAHB
70% internal distribution network of 2" and 1" dia has
already been laid.

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commissioned by July 2010, barring unforeseen
circumstances.

TAN CHAK DSTRCT SHEKHUPURA
Supply Main of Kms of 8" dia has been laid.

70% of internal distribution network of 2" and 1" dia
has also been laid.

Remaining distribution network would be laid and
commissioned by July 2010, barring unforeseen
circumstances.

NAWAN KOT DSTRCT SHEKHUPURA
70% internal distribution network of 2" and 1" dia has
been laid.

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SNGPL has requested `Lahore Faisalabad Construction
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X 2. Kms gas pipeline along the road.

The gas will be commissioned there~after.

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1. *Senator Muhammad Zahid Khan: Will the Minister

for Water and Power be pleased to state:
(a) whether it is a fact that village Dakhli Gattal and its
adjoining abadies, Tehsil Talagang, District Chakwal,
have been electrified; and

(b) whether it is also a fact that Dhoke Numberdar of the
said village has not been electrified so far, if so, its
reasons and the time by which the same will be
electrified?

Raja Pervaiz Ashraf (Minister for Water and
Power): (a) Village Gattal was electrified in 17 from MNA funds
under NA~1. This village consists of 14 No. Dhokes (Dakhliats) out
of which 04 Nos. Dhokes have been electrified so far from Chief
Minister Punjab and District Nazim funds. The rest of the Dhokes
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S# Name of work Completion year Sponsored by Remarks
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1. Dk. Khajoor 2005 District Nazim Electrified
Chakwal
2. Dk.Aziz~e~Khel 2007 ~do~ ~do~
. Dk.Chapper 2008 Chief Minister ~do~
Punjab
4. Dk.Kharwatta 200 ~do~ ~do~
5. Dk.Dohriam - - Un~electrified
. Dk.Janga - - ~do~
7. Dk.Chol - - ~do~
8. Dk. Lumberdar - - ~do~
. Dk.Chapper P~2 - - ~do~
10. Dk.Yari Khel - - ~do~
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S# Name of work Completion year Sponsored by Remarks
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11. Dk.Nakka - - Un~electrified
12. Dk.Chooran Wali - - ~do~
1. Dk. Belakhel - - ~do
14. Dk. Haji Mehboob - - ~do~
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(b) On the recommendations of Honourable Senator Mrs.
Sadia Abbasi, the survey of the abadi Dhoke Numberdar was
carried out and an amount of Rs.1.75 million is required for its
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be electrified after receipt of funds.
Mr. Chairman: Any supplementary? Yes, please.
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2. *Maulana Muhammad Saleh Shah: Will the Minister
for Water and Power be pleased to state whether it is a fact that
the land for Gomal Zam Dam has been provided by Mehsud tribe,
if so, the details of compensation paid to that tribe?
Raja Pervaiz Ashraf: t is true that the land for Gomal
Zam Dam alongwith 4 KM Road has been provided by Mehsud
and Wazir tribes as a donation for implementation of this Project
without any compensation in 10. n this way no compensation is
involved to these tribes as per their commitment.

. *Senator Begum Najma Hameed: Will the Minister for
Water and Power be pleased to state whether there is any proposal
under consideration of the Government to allow all the provinces
including FATA and Gilgit~Baitistan to generate electricity through
their own resources; if so, its details?
Raja Pervaiz Ashraf: Provincial Governments including
Gilgit~Baltistan and FATA are free to develop/construct power plants
of any size in the Public Sector by utilizing their own resources. For
PPs they can also approve Projects upto 50 MW for
interconnection with National Grid.

The Question Hour is over, the remaining questions and their replies along with unstarred
questions and answers will be taken as read and placed on the table of the House.
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5. Senator Prof. Muhammad brahim Khan: Will the
Minister for Water and Power be pleased to state:
(a) the estimated cost of Construction of 20 Small Dams
in NWFP; and
schemes in PSDP 200~10 and the amount released
and spent so far?
Raja Pervaiz Ashraf: (a) The estimated cost for
Construction of. 20 Small Dams in NW.FP is Rs. 00 million as
approved during April, 2005.
(b) The amount allocated by the Government to said schemes
in the PSDP for the year 200~10 is Rs. 200 million against which
Rs. 40 million have been released so far and utilized in full by
rrigation Department, Government of NWFP.

. Senator Dr. Muhammad smail Buledi: Will the
Minister for Water and Power be pleased to state:
(a) the number of persons recruited in the Ministry
during the last three years with province~wise
details; and
(b) the number of vacant posts and the time by which
these will be filled in?
Raja Pervaiz Ashraf: (a) The following appointments
have been made in the Ministry of Water and Power during the last
three years with province~wise details:-

Years. Name of post No of post Quota allocation Remarks

2008
2009 Stenographer 1 FATA
(BS-15)
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2009 Assistant 1 Punjab
(BS-14)
2009 Stenotypist 3 Punjab-2
(BS-12) NWFP-1
2009 Naib Qasid 6 Local
(BS-2) Resident
2009 Frash (BS-1) 1 Local Resident

(b) Number of sanctioned vacant posts:

Stenotypist 4 Merit
(BS-12) Sindh (U) Sindh(R)
AJK
L.D.C. (BS-7) 1 Merit
Driver (BS-5) 2 Merit
Naib Qasid 2 Local
(BS-2) Resident

Total: 9

Test/interviews have already been conducted to fill the vacant
posts and file is under process for appointments.

ÙNSTARRED QUESTONS AND THER REPLES`

For Thursday, the 25th March, 2010

7. Senator Prof. Khurshid Ahmed: Will the Minister for
Zakat and Ushr be pleased to state:

(a) the amount collected under the head of Zakat and Ushr
during the financial year 2008~200 and details of its utilization with
head~wise break up; and;

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(b) the amount released to district and local Zakat and Ushr
Committees since 2007 with year~wise break up?

Mr. Noor ul Haq Qadri: (a) The total amount collected under
the head of Zakat during the financial year 2008~0 was Rs.
4477.47 million and details of its utilization with head wise break up
is annexed.

(b) n terms of Section of Zakat and Ushr Ordinance
180, Disbursemet of Zakat is with the Provinces. All the
Provinces/Areas have been requested to provide information
regarding amount released to District and Local Zakat and Ushr
Committees since 2007 with year~wise break up, which will be
provided to the House at the earliest.

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Presentation of Report of the Standing
Committee on Finance, Revenue, Economic
Affairs and Statistics and Planning and
Development.

Mr. Chairman: tem No. 2A. Mr. Ahmed Ali, Chairman
Standing Committee on Finance, Revenue, Economic Affairs and
Statistics and Planning and Development, may move item No. 2A.
Senator Ahmed Ali: Thank you Mr. Chairman. have the
honour to present the report of the Standing Committee on Finance,
Revenue, Economic Affairs and Statistics and Planning and
Development in respect of the Federal Value Added Tax Bill, 2010.
The 24 recommendations detailed in para 10 of the report may be
passed by the Senate and transmit to the National Assembly under
Article No. 7(1) of the Constitution of Pakistan.
Mr. Chairman: Do you want to say something?
Senator Ahmed Ali: Yes sir, want to say something.
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we have very experienced leaders on both sides and whatever the
amendments they have proposed basically with the exception of
two, we have accepted their side of the story and we are going to
be totally including those amendments made by honourable Prof.
Khurshid Sahib and honourable Wasim Sajjad Sahib with the
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Mr. Chairman: t has been moved that the Bill further to
amend the Pakistan Engineering Council Act, 175 The Pakistan
Engineering Council (Amendment) Bill, 2010, as passed by the
National Assembly be taken into consideration.
Mr. Chairman: Second reading of the Bill, we may now
take up second reading of the Bill that is clause by clause
consideration of the Bill, Clause~, there is an amendment in the
name of Senator Wasim Sajjad in Clause~. Please move the
amendment.

Senator Wasim Sajjad: Sir, beg to move that in
Clause 2 of the Bill, in the proposed third paragraph, the words,
`managed by distinguished engineers`, occurring in the first line, be
omitted.
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Mr. Chairman: The amendment is adopted. The question
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Mr. Chairman: The motion is adopted. The Clause as
amended stands part of the Bill. Clause . There is an amendment
in the name of Mr. Wasim Sajjad, Prof. Khurshid Ahmed and Prof.
Muhammad brahim Khan in Clause . Please move the
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` beg to move sir, that the definition of construction as given in
Clause (1), in paragraph (v), it should be reinstituted by the
following: `Constructor` means any person, partnership, corporate
body or any other legal entity which or who is engaged in the
business of construction and is licensed and registered as such`.
Mr. Chairman: s it opposed, Mr. Minister.
Mr. Chairman: now put amendment to the House.
Mr. Chairman: The amendment is adopted. There is
another amendment in the name of Mr. Muhammad Hamayun in
Clause . Please move the amendment.
Senator Muhammad Hamayun Khan: Sir, beg to
move that in Clause of the Bill, in the proposed Section (ii), No.1,
in paragraph (xx), after the word, `Vice~Chairman`, occurring at the
end, the words `professional engineers and registered`, be added;
and
(ii) for paragraph (xxxiv), the following be substituted,
namely:~ `(xxxiv) `subsidiary` means a body formed by the
Governing body of the Council to operate under its control and to
perform its delegated functions,`.
Mr. Chairman: s it opposed?
Mr. Chairman: now put the amendment to the House.
another amendment in the name of Prof. Khurshid Ahmed and Prof.
Muhammad brahim Khan. Please move the amendment.
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Senator Muhammad Azam Khan Swati: Not opposed
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Mr. Chairman: The motion is adopted. Clause as
amended stands part of the Bill. There is an amendment in Clause
4 by Mr. Muhammad Hamayun Khan. Please move the
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move that in Clause 4 of the Bill, in the proposed new Section
(a), in sub~section (2), in paragraph (a), for the words òr the
Management Committee in the meeting of such body` occurring in
the third and fourth lines, the words ìn its meeting`, be substituted.
Senator Muhammad Azam Khan Swati: Sir, not
opposed.
Mr. Chairman: The motion is adopted. Clause 4 as
amended stands part of the Bill. Clauses 5 to 7, we take up
together as there are no amendments. The question is that Clauses
5 to 7 do form part of the Bill.
Mr. Chairman: The motion is adopted. Clauses 5 to 7
stand part of the Bill. Clause 8. There is an amendment in the
names of Prof. Khurshid Ahmed and Prof. Muhammad brahim Khan
in Clause 8. Please move the amendment.
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(ii) All Pakistan Contractors Association;
(iii) Pakistan Engineering Congress;
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Senator Muhammad Azam Khan Swati: Sir, it is
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Mr. Chairman: This is opposed. now put amendment to
the House.
(The motion was negatived)
Mr. Chairman: The amendment is rejected. There is
another amendment in the name of Mr. Muhammad Hamayum Khan
in Clause 8. Please move the amendment.
move that in Clause 8 of the Bill, in the proposed Section , in
Clause (2), in paragraph (c) (i), the words òne member each from
Azad Jammu and Kashmir and Gilgit~Baltistan`, occurring in the
second and third lines,` be omitted;
(ii) for paragraph (f), (g) and (h), the following be
substituted, namely:~
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(f) President or Chairman Association of Consulting
Engineers (Pakistan);
(g) President or Chairman All Pakistan Contractors or their
nominees;
(h) Elected President of the nstitute of Engineers of
Pakistan; and
(iii) n paragraph (i), for the word `physical`, occurring in the
sixth line, the words `balloting through courier service on production
of National dentity Card`be substituted.
Senator Muhammad Azam Khan Swati: (c) (i) is
opposed. (ii) is not opposed and (f) (g) (h) not opposed. (iii) is
opposed.
Mr. Chairman: O.K. now put the amendment to the
House. First of all will put as in Section , in Clause (2), in
Paragraph (C) (i) and (iii), they are being apposed by the Minister
sahib.
(The motion was negatived.)
Mr. Chairman: The motion is rejected. Now, put the
amendment to the House with respect to such in Section , in
Clause (2), in Paragraph (C) (ii).
(The motion was carried.)
Mr. Chairman: The motion stands adopted. The question
Mr. Chairman: Clause 8 as amended stands part of the
Bill. Clause to 24, there is no amendment in Clause to 24.
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Therefore, put these clauses together as one question before the
House.
Mr. Chairman: Clause to 24 stands part of the Bill.
Clause 25, there is amendment in the name of Senator Wasim
Sajjad in Clause 25, please move the amendment.
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Mr. Chairman: now, put the amendment to the House.
Mr. Chairman: The Motion stands adopted. The question
Mr. Chairman: Clause 25 stands part of the Bill. There is
an amendment in the name of Mr. Muhammad Hamayun Khan in
Clause 2, please move the amendment.
Senator Muhammad Hamayun Khan: Mr. Chairman,
beg to move that in Clause 2 of the Bill, in paragraph (a), for the
proposed Clause (e), the following be substituted, namely:~
`(e) the Governing Body constituted for the term 2008~
2010 shall cease to exist as soon as the Pakistan Engineering
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Council Bill is passed and assented to by the President of
Pakistan`.
Senator Muhammad Azam Khan Swati: Opposed.
Mr. Chairman: t is opposed. Now, put the amendment
to the House.
(The motion was negatived.)
Mr. Chairman: The motion is rejected. The question is
that Clause 2 do form part of the Bill.
Mr. Chairman: Clause 2 stands part of the Bill. Clauses
27 to 0, put these clauses together as one question before the
House.
Mr. Chairman: Clauses 27 to 0 stand part of the Bill.
Now, take up Clause 1, the Preamble and Title of the Bill.
Mr. Chairman: The Clause 1, the Preamble and Title
stand part of the Bill. tem No.4, please move tem No. 4, Minister
sahib.
Senator Muhammad Azam Khan Swati: Mr.
Chairman, move that the Bill further to amend the Pakistan
Engineering Council Act, 175 The Pakistan Engineering Council
(Amendment) Bill, 2010 be passed.
Mr. Chairman: As amended. t has been moved that the
Bill further to amend the Pakistan Engineering Council Act, 175
The Pakistan Engineering Council (Amendment) Bill, 2010 as
amended be passed.
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Mr. Chairman: The Bill as amended stands passed.
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Pakistan and the whole nation is grateful to him and so is this
young baby and her family. My point of order is that this august
House, the Senate of Pakistan, passed a Resolution and that
Resolution was categorical that a plot or a house should be given
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Mr. Chairman: have given my Ruling. Mashhadi sahib,
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[The House was then adjourned to meet again on Friday the 26
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March,
2010 at 10.30 a.m]
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THE

Leader of the House _ , ,, _ ,, , _

Senator Col. (R) Syed Tahir Hussain Mashhadi:

n the meantime Naveed Qamar sahib is

`prospecting and mind development` _ , _

anyone on his behalf ,, , , ,, ,, ,

. am grateful to my honourable colleague

have already asked for inquiry to be

and we are looking into it.

5000 domestic connections

Even for new connections

but specifically to know the details of it, perhaps would inquire

and how much is

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South Asian Games _

Mr. Chairman: Haseeb Sahib, you cant give your back to

Mr. Chairman: Any other supplementary. No. Next

facility _ ,, ,,, , _ _ , _,, . _ _

should not be more than forty five years of age , ,,

should be serving personnel of

should be devoted energetic,

religious bent of mind _

and knowledge of Arabic language is preferable ,

more than 7% natural gas Sindh provide . , ,

Obviously whatever schemes are there they will be implemented.

let him answer.

profit and loss

over the years ,, _ , _ , , _ _

can provide the list.

Syed Naveed Qamar: But that is not enough

it is very difficult to answer.

CNG buses specially

policy change ,_, _ ,

because they should have planned

to supply them not beyond that.

1. *Senator Muhammad Zahid Khan: Will the Minister

village electrification Peoples Works Programme ,,

Questions Hour is over.

important point of order raise

let us listen to him.

unanimously resolution pass ,, _

everybody praised the great

point of order briefly ._ ,

this was the main thing. _

Mashhadi sahib knows that they are coalition partner over

will convey to the concerned quarters, whoever has made a

Senator Syed Nayyer Hussain Bokhari: f Minister for

please call him so that we can clarify the situation.

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12.5 percent recommend

sales tax , replace _ . , , .

Value Added Tax _ _

Mr. Chairman: Thank you. The Report stands presented.

Value Added Tax

Senator Syed Nayyer Hussain Bokhari (Leader of

Who wants to speak,

Pakistan Engineering Council Act

Preamble , _ _, _ . _,, _,, , _ , _ _ _

`Whereas the council managed by distinguished

operators or contractors and constructors _ ,,

operator means any person, partnership,

chartered accountant register _ _ , _ _ , ,

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