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Febr uar y 1995
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7 O ' S I N G L E
ALICE DONUT
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l hi nsr Lhi s
l a l ' s L o i r r - i r p r r Tb - G- a t An n i h l l a t o r r , b " r . n r
l h. . f i rst 6i "' ans ref ease si nce 1992. \ "/ hy ha-.
t f . ere
been sucb a l . r nl gap ?
I ' i i chael
;
l , l erd rel eased ai l easl an al bum and
. c i r o l o ^ r 1 1 . . , . n \ , , r \ ' w F e , a ^ r l F n w o . ' . c : c , . , , I l
es t he i ' I orl d of Ski n al buns and vari ous l i ve
al -buns, SorI j ust t hought i l r; as t i rne t o t al (e a
br eah, bot h f or our aui i ence and us. ! l
j ust Look
5 or 8 mcnt hs . l oi n! not hl ng excepi r+ri t i nrrbe-
f or-" ve beg: . n t o geL i nvol ved r' / i l , h' uhe nei r
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L i n - . . . b u t L h a L t i a s a . r a s L c f L i n . . r o l \ j ' I ' r
c a n e o f i t . . . s o l h e n r a i i e r x e r d d c i d e d n o l t o
use a naj or r l . r e had t o f i ni a ne\ ' l abef . I t
j usi
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up a l cl oi l i mer bu' L al so gave us nor e f r ee
Li r ne t o do o' l hcr l hi nEs. r
Ta l k i n g a b o i . n a j o c l a b
l . , l o u - t i J . , . r ' L ' .
l . : CA di d! r t seer n
i o be par ' ' r i cul af l y successl ul ,
but i n 6aJ1y uays you dl C t esl t he grourrd f or
f ut ure
ral t ernat i ver
bands Nho di ci have success
on r naj or f abel s. . .
l i i chael
;
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Er"e 1, / i t h I j CA f rom 1?89
t o 199O, and
i t
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a di sasi cr! Cu: vhof e career has been a
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posed t o be
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shahe-ul r, ano
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everyone 1. e hai bean e; -
pect l ng i , c i i orl , \ ' i ' , h ei t ner got f i i eo o1 1] 1. ! j N.
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; nyone, ve ccLi l i l acl i ai nl y st and
t o have e. Jagu-
f ar ' i nconer bu! ) i Dne oi t hen seer nec t o
8r 3: !
r, ' hat The Sl i a] : s real l : r i s, or hov t o l rarl , ei us, . .
Bui r cr t ai nl y, bi . . . k i n 39r I have
t o adni t r l he- d
no i dea ho_. , /
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ccn' urol t hi agsrso 1 j ust
Bci
suc] ! ed- 1t ' ul . t r r . .
D: ' ccess. Par : t i cul ar - y
i 1 t Le
gt at es, I
r vas act i ng as ny ol m mar agei r and as
s r . r ^ 1 . I r r a s
f - - ^ L i c " l l y
r e t d . . . t o , 1
j u ! L c a n ' L -
b . 1 n
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a n o d l \ r : L h L t r o s e
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a - L ' , l t
because l heyr r e a: : shr e\ { d as Hel l . I I ' as mani pu-
f at ed and si rer. ' ed arounrl
qui ' Le a bl L. . . Nhat l ' -as
t he \ " r or st expr i ence f r ve ever ha4r 1 per sonal l y
an si i l - L i n deb' ! f r on
t hat r eccr d. . . T st i f f ol r e
1av' r er s. I st i l l ol r e account ant s. I have never
"e"b. re. 6d f roi n i t , f i nanc i a1f y. Anci as l ar as
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I L ^ o r d i L . . 1 f
8 o e s , r . s
o o j , l c
h r e r r j : 1 . a 1
a- Lbum - h1n any of our ol h. r r . cor dsr bl caJse
l { CA j u s t d r . o p J c d i L s L r a i [ \ i " , v . i L L r a s
j : s L
a t ot al . ut t er ' . despi cabl e di sas! er . . .
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cert ai nl y, he
I
Burni ng Worf dr 1, ? doesnrt
seern
t o have' been
your
nosl successf t l l c. reat i v-
i 1v. ei l l l er . , .
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v a s h a o p v L / j L h D a r L s o
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uy vo. af s on i t aN al i . 1 r hi r k . L i : - l n' l vo- . j '
b' ecause rve uere l i orki ng r"ri ' uh an oui si de prodrj ce! '
-al t hor
I i hi nk Bi l I l , asvef f has done sone
g r r a L s l u f f
j n
h i s o r , Tl
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v o r t
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b y s o . l o o r L l : c " -
j u s L . r a n l Fd - u t r r v o : a l l y r a n d 1 1 . " 1 ' s o n j ! i ' :
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r l . i n k
J a r b o c s o l ' n c :
g r . 3 t o n L ) l r _ -
r ecor dr and I t hi nk t he
songs { er e goodr but
over. rl l i t
i ust
i . rasnrt produced i n
ahe correcl
r , r ay f oi s ans. . . i ' u coul dr ve been a
Sr ea!
r ecor d
bu' " i t af i r " ent r vr ong. . . I meanr l canr t denounce
j
L Lor , l l l l . , oecausc a l ol of
Jeo
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l i 1 . . . . I l j k c " b a c i u a l s o n " s r t r t I r c r l l :
do rhi nl ! t hat n)' . / ocal s
sucl t ed! 1 real f l ' got so
upt i 3ht , 1 coul i nr t cope \ , ' i i ) : t si 1i Lasuef l si t -
L i n C L r i
r h e
j u s L
s . c mr ' :
L o i ' - a L - n '
. o n l
. : s i . n
L o \ ' / i r d s t L c v o c a l s . . . l
. o u f o i t l u o r : . l : t _
L l a E
because I
j ust
coul dnr t r el ax. l i l oi i hat l r n
bl anl ng bi ro. . . but i t vas t he l abef r"' ho r, roLrl dnrl ,
f et us t r oduce oul sef ves. even
i hoi \ r ( : r d pr oduced
everyi hi , ng ! ' erd done u! t 6 t hat poi nt . . . t hei '
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1 / o J
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l e t u s d o i t . r
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f To br g- n i r l t h, Su. r n.
r as or : gi nal y D' r c' i v- d
as a
l bandl
, bui
over i he year s i ! ha. cl ear " l y
I ' i i chael
;
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c o l l a b o " b L - v . J
g L r o n
l : / \ r i L \ . J c r b o
r b u L
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r o | p i r . v L - r . u c h n y
l - o . : . L , i l
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l ,
s i , .
dos ot l l - . r
l r oj ect s. . . r . r l l h
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d - r
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r , 1 r n c o r , h a l d h a l No r I n . " n r s l ' n :
j , 1 . L
L h . , . o 1 1 . I , L , L L o g e L r " r , j L r s ' o L i , r 1 n . . T L r s
d -
1 6 r . n L , l i l e r n a v i n g p .
b a n o i . .
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r 1 y
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r b o - d o e . c ' n L r i l r L
- y - i
r ' r l l .
; u: yoLr do hav-o an af bum due t c be ref aseri i n
t l -t e nai f u' uure
j ! rst
as
rl . 1l cha-. 1
Gi 13r . . . \ ' i rJr di d
you f , : . . f i he naed t o
seper a- , e
t l r l s f l ' cr 1
r S, , ansr
r r r a t e r i a l . . .
I i i chaei
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l i e-l 1, e. . / en
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f j I r i . J ' . . 1 . . - o n
t he
rccor' crl oLi l . , novrnake t he 1, / rol c ai / cnt ha: rl --en.
! , hei eas on i hi s sol o al bunr i t l s r nor c ceni r ed
cn rl ] y t . ' oi Ll s anri l i y songsrt \ e l yri cs and rry
voi cc. I r l cn' ' , t hi nk I coul dt ve
( l one i r t . . "
. , , r i Ll , i n
t he
cor l e: i t cf sr l ansr i t \ ouf ( 1r : . . b. cor : oo
l er sonnal , and
I
' " r y
not t o do
t l l al vl i l i n
Swans, . . t hi s af bur i i s i ar mor e
l el sol l nal - r r nor e
t o do wi t h r ne : r s r .
f el ' sonr i t r s
ver y enot i onai .
D o y u f
l t 1
l j r s L l r o k i n o n 0 1 r . -
. "
L-
s r " b r s Su3r . 5 - s
. l oL
no I :
l , ' l l chael I I f eel I do h. rve t o do t l ' l ose ol , l rer
i l : i ngsr l ' have l o kecp 1' ' or ki ni . , . ve di d
l he
Ski n I nai eri al beci i use
, re f e. Li , ai t hat t i se
l h: r t 1, 1 1{ 511n4 t o vol k
- Logei hel r out si de
ol
Svans, t c cr cat e a di i f er ent a' ur nospher e. . . bul
t hen i ve r. rere abl e t o i ncorporat e
t hose i dcas
int o S\.jans as \,',.f1. . .
Sr, / ans has ah, -ays haci a rel Lrt at i on of bel ng
musi caf l y very
! o' ", erf ul rbu' u
i t seerns
l hat re' )
cent l yr your use of
r ! o
er r nl Ll l i n
your r nusi c has
becone nuch mcr e subt l e. . .
Mi chael
;
I hope so. . . I neant t c ner Bob Dyl an
si nei ne
l Gat es
of Edenr i s I i i uch. nuci r nore l ] ol Lar_
f ul " l hi n } 1et al Li ca. . . 1 suwose i t al f d. : l ends
on whai r' ou i hl nj i of as
rpor"-erf ul r. bul
I af ways
t hi nk of - t hi nss i n t erns
-ci
i he st i engt h ul l rh
' r hi ch
t l - ! eyr r e
- pr esenl
ed. . . f l ke
r i o
me,
j ust
heari ng John Cal e al cne on
*"l re
pi ano i s
i ncr edi bf y ! over i u1. . .
I our nori r. -cn_u al buns have been qui i e
L . n s L l - v . b u L a l - o
_ . J !
r - c i s f : .
' o n s L r u c l
i . . .
I : i c i i , " l ' ; : c s , i o
l l ' r
i v r v l b : ' 3 . b ' , r ' r 1
donr-!
go
i nt o a sLudi c
j us_L i c I ecoad ho\ , - a
band sounds. . . I i J; nL i o cr eat e a l r hcl e exDci -
i encer ' hat na. kes i t i ar Eor i t l ' , er est i ng. . '
The
al bums
i hat ha. i ben
i 1_e bi SJes' " i nf l uel l ces
o n ] l c , - h i : l , s
- .
f : I
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, -
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l o r r r ' o :
' I h .
; l n . . - i J u mt r l ' ! ^ l l i , y s l i (
L a j L
a p r i o a c n L o r , / a ) ' o s n i . l : ' 1 8
' - n
l - u m. . . t o f l e r L l 1 ' r s
, "rhar
rnade t hel i ]
: reat . I
l i ke al burrs l o be more
l i ke a f i l m exl ! ' i encer r ai her
i han
i us- u
a col i cc
- t i on
ot soni s. I neant l sul f ose some bandg
ccul d be i nt r si i ng t or a vhl 1e i f you
i us' u
recorded
t hen pl ayi ng t hei f , songs i n a roomr orl i
t o r oe, t hat r s
t l , e r nost uni n' ur esl i ng
r l hi ng i n
t he r"rdr1d. 1 rnuch l ref er
' : o ' uake
l he sound-
sources, mani ?ul at ; : ' Lher
t o l i ef 1r and mal {e
' Lhen
i nt o somet hi ni el se.
Do
you
f l nd i t r4ore conveni ent
t o be abl e
t o coni t ruc' u an af bun vl t h
t i re cD f onnal i i l
ni no, ra' uher l \ an havi ng
' i o
st ruct ure
l he ausac
i n l i ne r . / i t h di f f er cn_' r ecor d si des, . .
i I
cert ai nl y donrt \ t ori i \ , / i i h vi nyl l n : ni nc
anvr , r or o. I \ r o: k \ ' . i L'
;
ni nuLes i r r \ ' . n. r . . . Tt r '
, : l ' . l y
1 I c a s i
I L , ) r ; \ \ , : 1 1 Cl s r p r s o n ; l J i ' r n
not f el l shi st i c about l , i l r yl . . . I r eal l y can' !
t el t t he di f i er er ce bel ven r ' ' , e cwo f or i r ai s. . .
rf l aybe vi nyl l s sorl a t armerrbut I i ri nda f l ke
t he har der sound l . oD
c3n
6e1-
cn CD. . . I 1i l i c
Ct s because i l {: nabl es you t or' rot k t c1, . ards a
cont i nuos Di ece. . .
l i oul d yau sal r
t l : at cot -rs' "uci i ng an ai bun i or
CD. as one uhol e l - . i cce. i s nor e l i l i e const r ucl i nS
a i i ve
per f o| r nan; er i n' l hat t ) . out r e
l ut i i ne
i oge-
t her musi c t c be hear ' o as a 1" ho1e pi ece ?
l l i chael
i
Wl l , t he ai bunt i snFu a \ t of e
! e"i . Jr-
nance, i t i s hunor ecs of 1l t t l e
l r f ot at ancs
Dut
t oget her . . . i t r s cer ' , aj n1y nol per f ol i i r e. r . l i vc i r .
l , he
st udi o, or an: i t l i l r 1I . . . 1- 11- hough
- Lhc, , ' ay
i - l i at
you gel i o hear i t r as a cont i nuous pi ecer i s
n ^ - o i l . h . a . i n . F
- " ,
. , - f o r ' t
n . - . . . - l t v '
al l ' c ac i y s ai dr i l r s l r or e f i he a nov i e t o me. . .
and, of c our s er l i v e per f or r anc e Ni i f aI l i ay s be
nuch mor e i nnr edi aLe and spont anecLr s.
I bef i eve you have a book r eady f ol '
l ubl i -
c at i on s c on ?
l " i j c ) r aeI
;
Yes r i t r s c al l eC
r The
Cons uf l er r a! ( i
' . .
d. i { - '
q
-otner
stori es' .and i -urs i r.l ,.,g' puri i .f,.o-i ry
'
1nr l Lr Ll i r h" d
by
/ . i . 1 - . u l t . I l ' q
Rol l - i n st
l ) ubl i sl t i ng
coml an: r t
. ^ - 1 r . . i i 6n ^ f
qh. r ' 1- qt o. i

r c o 1
l : o ' :
l - : . o : j
t : d : '
o v n
l
1r as or i gi nal f y
t ubLi shedr l r o- . t l . y
l n | he
1 r a s o T. l g a n a l | l | y
| u D! 1 s n e o , I I I o - q ! r . J
r l r ! r ' e
l i l zht i es. bul t i , : r est of \ . r hi ch has becn
vrl i ren i i Dl i nr
cbe I ?-s' L vea: ' . I t ve
al 1. ra)r
L' r j i i en i i Lr l i ng
cl t e I ?- s' L yeaI . I r . / e al 1. r a) ' s
been i nt er es l ed i n 1" . r 1t i n8r but ' L k j . nda
st oDt ed b. - ck 1I ) l l r e l ai l e Ei ghl - i { : s
i us' u
becaus- "
I r ; al f v r , , ani ed i o c onc enl r at e on mu3i c . But
once \ . j e nc. / - . , j out of l l e1r l or k C1! J/ r I l ounal
t hat I he( i enough l i xi ' . t o l nor k on i ' L once
a g a i n . . .
I oul 1' e mc nt i oned
c c n- . l { i er '
) r c ur
r r us i c
h3vc any as- ni l ai : L, Jn5
i ha- , nedi ur n,
! er hap
s
se\ ' cra1
l i rnes t rl ai
J/ cu
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i i i n i c
- l e f i i s . . . d o
y o u
t c r, / ork rroaa. cl osc1)' \ ' r1_, l r
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sol i n. i t rack3 or
o o o , , : . / ^ - : b i . a r ' - o r
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a n s l
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p ] _ c " '
s o. r . r ei l f hav e a f ot of s ' uui i c or ni nf
. u! .
Jai ooe
;
I i hi nk i . ' eI r e
Sol ni :
t o be v"r ] '
br l s y f or
t he r ex !
l i c ar
c r s o. . .
An( 1
- ! her e
i i , endedr because
"hei r busy s' h' _d-
ul e neai t
t hal anot hei ' i nt eavi e' , t
nal L- ni J' r i r -
u' ues al t aJr r an. l ny busy. schedul e
meanl
t hat ' I
hai
! o f i i d my i r ay cut t a dar kest
Hi ghgat e, al l d
bac k ac l os s London! f or
J r el l
mor nus : c " '
- - l i i a
vou
e. t er
gel t i r , t - ' f cel i ng of dej a. vu ?
.
ah, Lr _j . . r oa- v r a r ok r ol Lni r d
y L anot \ r
: l ov , I
u' s ul . o: Phanl om Pr ' " ni . nc j es gai l " '
! . l o i . i h s . 1 . - t - t r , " i i - a L o r r L h r '
e
i p . n
r hr 6e day s , l l r at r s
t r ' ei t v
pr of i f j . c . And
t hey r l e
c . L . i n r i i : 1 ; .
r . : l : L r .
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L o
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