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tngy htn rnte vcu,f vk iht hcd (oau /yp ,unch) vcr vatvc ifu
tn,x tnkt wuf vthmuvk uhbhgc vke tv, tka vcu,f ibcr vk ubhe,
ibcrs vcu,fs rcx x"avs
So too, in Haeshah Rabah (Yevamos 89a), concerning a woman
who married a second husband based on the testimony of one witness
1 injb cr rnt vws wxu, /h
who testified that her first husband died, and the first husband was in
fact alive, in regard to the reason that she does not receive her
kesubah [the Gemara] explains: What is the reason that the
Rabonon instituted the obligation to pay of a kesubah? So that
[ones wife] should not be easy in his eyes to send her away etc. (1)
[In this case when her husband was found to be alive, it emerges that
she married illegally. We do want the husband to divorce her and we
do want to make it as convenient as possible for him to do so. We
therefore rule that he does not have to pay her kesubah.] Apparently,
since the Gemara there also uses the phrase the Rabonon instituted
the payment of Kesubah, the anonymous (2) Gemara holds that
the obligation to pay kesubah is rabbinic.
Tosfos has a difficulty with this conclusion.
t,hhrutsn hfhk uzjs i,tn hzuz ;xf vcu,fc cu,fk udvbs vaeu
This is difficult! For it is standard procedure to write in a
besulahs kesubah, when enumerating the amount to be paid: two
hundred silver zuz, that you are eligible to be paid by Torah law. It
is clear that our kesubah documents state that the kesubah payment is
required by Torah law, (3) whereas Rav Nachmon in the name of
Shmuel and the anonymous Gemara in Yevamos 89a state that the
obligation is rabbinic law.
This contradiction cannot be resolved. Our custom is obviously in
conflict with Rav Nachmon in the name of Shmuel. However,
Tosfos must show that there is in fact a dissenting opinion.
hnb vk h,hhns (:he ;s) tr,c erps whb,ns d"cart ibhfnxs ,"rutu
k"heu t,hhruts vcu,f rcxes theyupe ,ugnn vk i,ub rnts lunxc
u,banc d"carf
Says Rabbeinu Tam: That we rely on Rabon Shimon ben Gamliel
of the Mishna in the last Perek (110b) which will soon be cited in
our Gemara, who says that when a woman was married in
Cappadocia where the coins are worth more than those of Eretz
2 injb cr rnt vws wxu, /h
dhkps vtr,c tuvs hat cr tbjfats b"rf ik tnhhe tks h"rut sugu
iugyk kufh ubht anaun tka kf hb, (/ch ;s) t,hhrc inek .r,nsf vhkg
ost iht vezj ibhrnt tku rean tnak ahhjs tnkt ohku,c ,bgy
vshxpnu vsugxc jruy
Furthermore, RI says that we do not rule in accordance with Rav
Nachmon who says that we believe a Chossons claim that his Kalloh
was not a besulah, because we find that Rav Ashi who was a latter
authority argues with [Rav Nachmon], as [Rav Ashi] adjusts the
text of a Baraisa later (12a): Rav Ashi says, we must emend the text
of the Baraisa as follows: Any [Chosson] who was not examined by
the Kallohs attendant to ascertain that he did not destroy the
bloodstained sheets cannot claim that his Kalloh was not a
besulah. We are concerned that the Chosson may cheat and destroy
any evidence that his Kalloh was a besulah. Apparently, [Rav Ashi]
is concerned that [the Chosson] might lie and falsely claim that the
Kalloh was not a besulah, and we do not say that there is a
3 injb cr rnt vws wxu, /h
injb crst dhkp hat crs rhtn ubhcr ic ejmh ubhcr whp ifu
So too, did Rabbeinu Yitzchok ben Rabbeinu Meir comment that
Rav Ashi disagrees with Rav Nachmon, and we rule in favor of Rav
Ashi.
We have now demonstrated that Rav Nachmons ruling which is
based upon his belief that payment of kesubah is rabbinic law, is not
universally accepted. Rav Ashi holds that we rule in favor of Rabon
Shimon ben Gamliel who holds that payment of kesubah is Torah
law. But the anonymous Gemara in Yevamos 89a seems to rule in
favor of Rav Nachmon who holds that payment of kesubah is
rabbinic law?
Tosfos offers an alternate approach to that Gemara. Let us remind
ourselves that the Gemara in Yevamos 89a seems to say that
kesubah is a rabbinic institution devised to be a deterrent to
frivolous divorce.
tfhv vcu,f ibcr ubhe, y"n (oau /yp ,unch) vcr vatvc ibhrnts tvu
tvh tka ubhe, b"v vthmuvk uhbhgc vke tv, tka vbnktc iudf ubhe,s
:vthmuvk uhbhgc vke tv,a hsf vk
That which the Gemara says in Haeshah Rabah (Yevamos 89a):
4 injb cr rnt vws wxu, /h
10Ab
iuhf lfkhv vhkg trx,hns wdn v,ujpc ut ivf ,atc jbh, vnh,
intb vshxpns
This is bewildering! It is logical that he stands to take a loss when
he is a Kohain and his Kalloh is the wife of a Kohain who is
forbidden to her husband when he claims that she was not a besulah
as mentioned earlier on 9a, because there is only one doubt to
consider - did she cohabit with another man before or after betrothal.
Since there is only one doubt, we must be stringent in a case where
the prohibition to continue living with her is Torah law. Or if he was
not a Kohain, but was betrothed to him when she was less than three
years of age, when we are certain that she cohabited with another
man after betrothal and our only doubt is whether she was seduced or
raped. In this case as well, since there is only one doubt she is
forbidden to [her husband]. Therefore, since he does lose [his
- v"#$ vws wxu, :h
kkf vcu,f vk iht vkugc ,tmnbu vku,c ,ezjc vxbf inek hnb s"nku
tuv ,ugy jen hrva vshxpn hnb t,avs tjhb
And according to the one who says later in the Gemara if one
married a woman under the presumption that she was a besulah
but she was found not to be a besulah, she receives no kesubah at
all, it is soundly understood that now as well [the Chosson] loses
his feast because the marriage was an acquisition made in error
and his Kalloh is not married to him at all. By claiming that she was
not a besulah, he is essentially saying that she is not my wife. I
intended to marry a besulah and she was not what I expected. The
marriage is null and void. Thus, he in fact loses the marriage feast
because he has no marriage.
10Ac
wpcu t,hhruts vcu,fs (oau :ub) p"gt erpc inek vhk ,ht n"rs vnh,
,hbubhcc vat ,cu,fs n"r rcxes whrnt (oau ::jn ihyhd) ihezhbv
tbhj ouan
This is bewildering! For R Meir holds later in Perek Af Al Pi
(56b) that kesubah payment is mandated by Torah law, and in
Perek Hanizokin (Gitin 48b*) [the Gemara] says that R Meir
holds that a womans kesubah is to be paid from intermediate
quality property so that women will find favor (1) in the eyes of men
and the men will be anxious to marry them. They were concerned that
1 ohnfj ,be,u khtuv vws wxu, :h
ikufu (/v ;s) e"c ahrc ik tepbsf ,hshgc vbhs t,hhruts thuvs iuhfu
vbhs ughepv htntu ;xf okah vbh,b ,j, th,ts cyhnn okak ,uctf
And since the [kesubah payment] is Torah law according to R
Meir, the rule is that it is to be paid from the finest properties of the
husband as [the Gemara] deduces in the beginning of Bava Kama
(5a): and all payments required by Torah law are like the primary
damagers that must pay from the finest properties of the damager.
This is derived from a textual comparison using four words -',j,
okah 'vbh,b and ;xf (2). Why did the Rabonon revoke the ruling
that she should collect from the finest property of her husband? It
seems that the Gemara in Gitin 49b is explaining why she need not
collect from the most inferior quality, but what happened to her
inherent right to collect from the finest properties?
Secondly, Tosfos will now show that almost all Tanoim agree that
kesubah payment is to be made only from real property and not
from movable possessions. If the kesubah payment is mandated by
Torah law, this is problematic.
hkykynn vat ,cu,f vhk ,hts ouen ouac tb, yhn,ahn tks sugu
rnts thv n"r hbn tv (/ym ,unch) ih,fus kfc ibhrntsf n"rk tkt
vcu,fk hscg,an hkykyn
2 ohnfj ,be,u khtuv vws wxu, :h
ibhpkh o,vns iuhf ihezhb unf hkykynn hcd tk htnt t,hhruts s"nku
But according to the one who says that kesubah payment is
mandated by Torah law, why can [a woman] not collect from
movable possessions just as damages can be collected from movable
possessions, since the payment of kesubah is derived from the
payment of damages, as the Gemara derives this ruling there in
Bava Kama 5a?
It seems that the inherent kesubah payment has been changed, even
if we hold that kesubah payment is Torah law. But why? In
conclusion Tosfos is compelled to say that even if kesubah payment
is mandated by Torah law, the Rabonon changed details of the
payment for practical considerations. The initial step was to insure
that the kesubah payment should not be an overly difficult financial
burden. If it was, young men might try to avoid marrying besulos, in
order to avoid the overly restrictive financial obligations.
ut ,hshg rufnk ufrymh ot ost hbc ivn uarph tka tngys k"hu
ohkykyn
We can answer: That the reason the Rabonon amended the Torah
laws of payment and were more lenient than the Torah law of
payment would require is so that, people will not refrain from
marrying [besulos] which might happen if they would have to sell
their finest properties or their movable objects in order to pay a
kesubah, (3)
10Ad
vk $,u' u'h) *+* ,ug*v $,u)* vk $,u'a vk )uv .uh/ v* h+/k v*h,
ohkea w' vua )k)
This is bewildering! What benefit is it to her that he pays her
[Cappodician] coinage? In any case, he will only give her the
value of fifty shekalim, the amount required by the Torah.
/sahk :oau ;' ,u/u<5= /u<5 ah wp5 /u<5 $uhsps ohgkx wv h5d $'h/*)s<
- vk $,ub vws w*u, +h
$hphxu*a< k5) uphxuv oue* k<5 uphxuva< o,vs v)/' $h) uvh*
),hh/u)s vs* v',a, 7<5a v)/' $h) s.) oue*5
However, this explanation, that one is always required to pay fifty of
the shekalim of the place where he is located regardless of their value
is not appealing. For there in Bchoros 50a when they added
eighteen gerah to the required payment of the redemption of the
firstborn, it was added everywhere, but when it is added in one
specific place, it does not appear that because the Cappodicians
increased the value of their coins, that the measure of the Torah
should change because of this.
10Ae
Step 1):
The Gemaras initial understanding of Rav Nachmans first ruling
was that it is a rhetorical question:
,uyucj ,ubu( hfu rean hrva ktrah ,c kg r"a thmuna uvuekv aurhp
inhvn tk 7fkv hec vhvha uhbpk
The explanation of Rav Nachmans first ruling : Flog him because
he is slandering a Jewish daughter, for he is lying - he definitely is
incapable of determining that her entrance was open, since he is
inexperienced in these matters. Rav Nachman asks rhetorically: Were
the prostitutes lying before him so that he became an expert to
determine that her entrance was open? Certainly that was not the
case. Therefore, we do not believe him. Since we do not believe him,
he is merely defaming a Jewish daughter and should be flogged.
Step 2):
The Gemara now attempts to disprove this ruling:
ubhntn vhv tkt ubhntn vhv tka ouan tk uvucxt rnts injb cru
,ub(v kg suaja hpk u,uekvk rntu
Rav Nachman who said flog him said so not because he did not
believe him for lack of expertise, but rather he did believe him and
he said that he should be flogged because he was suspected of
promiscuity. The statement - vhk tyhcj t,frcn - is now explanatory:
He must have visited the citys prostitutes in order to develop his
expertise.
Step 4):
The Gemara offers another interpretation of Rav Nachmans
position:
t,ujhbc k"hgu
We can also say that [the words - vhk tyhc( t)*+cn] are not a
rhetorical question, rather explanatory. (2)
Step 1):
statements. Rav Acha simply says that the two statements of Rav
Nachman are speaking about different people.
Step 4):
:huabcu ,uekn tkc ubhhv injb cr rnts intb =>? okugk rnt tjt cr
Rav Acha says: Actually when Rav Nachman in his second
statement said that (3) we believe [a husband who claims the
entrance was open] that means there is no need to flog him and it is
speaking of when he is a married man. Since he is married, he has
the expertise to determine that her entrance was open from his
personal life. If he is single, he could have only become an expert by
visiting prostitutes and he is flogged.
1) See Maharam Schiff who explains that this first explanation of
Tosfos first assumes that vhk tyhcj t,frcn is a rhetorical question
(step 1), then in the Gemaras first explanation (step 3) it is an
explanatory sentence and finally (step 4) Rav Acha explains it as a
rhetorical question. This inconsistency causes Tosfos to offer a
second explanation of the Gemaras dialogue.
2) t,ujhbc - literally - calmly. It is not said with the intonation of a
question. It is explanatory. I have translated the word according to
the context in which it is used by Tosfos.
3) See note 1. According to Maharam Schiff the benefit of Tosfos
second explanation is that the words vhk tyhcj t,frcn are
consistently throughout the four steps of the Gemara (step 1, the
question, step 3, the first answer and step 4, Rav Achas answer)
an explanatory statement. If so, Rav Nachmans first ruling
according to Rav Acha is that if he is single, we believe him and
flog him because he developed his expertise by visiting prostitutes.
Rav Nachmans second ruling is that if he is married, we believe
him and he is not flogged. An argument can be made that Rav
Acha is saying that we do not believe a single man at all as Rashi
says, however it is difficult to explain Tosfos this way. My
explanation of Tosfos second approach follows Rosh and
Maharshal.
7 t)*+cn v-s -/u) 1h
10Ba
hrva vpujk vxhbf trxjhhn tk och ,rnuas 1uhf tbhnt 7,gs tekxs
vjrf kgc vhkg tch vnch
For it might enter upon our minds to say that since for a widow
who is awaiting yibum it is not obligatory that she be brought to a
chupah and consent to be married, for the rule is that her yovom
may cohabit with her even against her will,
/ ()u*c (,s ,xu* .h
10Bb
"vs "%&&'u"s) v*) v*)k" %,u%-s "-v) .u/0%s ')&)k "-&k "vu
'-- "k" v'u% v'&-zv "ks v/) &)&, v&v "k v*)
But this cannot be said: that we should resolve from this question
that the kesubah of a widow is a maneh by Torah law. Since we do
find that the Torah uses this word and we have no explanation other
than that it is a reference to the amount she receives for kesubah, we
should conclude that this kesubah is in fact Torah law. But why not?
Because the term maneh was non-existent in the days of Moshe,
for the Torah only mentions the word rff-kikar.(1) Since the word
v*)k" is based on the word maneh, it could not have been referring
to a coinage of biblical times.
There seems to be a contradiction from a Gemara in Bechoros 5a.
The Gemara there is discussing a perceived discrepancy in the
Torahs computation of the money collected for the Tabernacle by
Moshe Rabbeinu. In the Gemaras resolution of this discrepancy, it
refers to a maneh, which according to Tosfos did not exist in
0 vbnkt vws wxu, :h
biblical times.
%u*u,/2, &3,u v&v 4)"* u*&,' v/) 56/u /v 8s9 %u'u-,, 4*&')"s "vu
v&v ku0- /su3 k/ v*)/ "k"
That which the Gemara says in Bechoros (5a) (2) when resolving
the discrepancy in the Torahs computation, Moshe Rabbeinu was
both trustworthy and expert in calculations. If so, how do we
explain the discrepancy? But the maneh coin used in the calculations
of the holy temple was double the value of a regular maneh coin.
This resolves the discrepancy, as is evident in the Gemara there, but
we do see that the Gemara refers to a maneh as the coinage of
biblical times. Tosfos has stated that there was no maneh in biblical
times.
k"3z2& &)&, /su3 k/ v*)/ u)- ')uk- "k" v/) &)&, v*) v&v/ "k
:v/) &)&, ku0- /su3 k/ '-- v&v ;- v&v ku0This does not mean that there was a maneh coin in the days of
Moshe, rather it is saying that just as the maneh coin of the holy
temple was double the regular maneh coin in the times of
Yechezkel as the Gemara demonstrates there in Bechoros, so too,
the kikar coin of the holy temple was double the regular kikar coin
in the days of Moshe.
1) See Shmos 38, 24 - 29).
2) See Artscroll Bechoros 5a2,3, notes 18-22 for the exact
calculations.
10Bc
the Gemara refer to the Baraisa taught by Rav Yosef that ruat
refers to Seleucia, when the name of the land ruat also proves that
the Torah uses names of the future?
)ua'4 )n(nk 5/(6n4 7)2(nk (6n 'k au8n 58u )ua'n 9-u( c) 'kcu
78 "na v(v "kug ,un(nu )(gv "a 'ku :ujnv "a au8u
But if not for Rav Yosef, who identified Ashur in Bereishis 2, 14, as
the city Seleucia, from the word Ashur per se, and so too, from the
word Kush (Bereishis 2, 13) which is presumably named after the
person Kush, (Bereishis 10, 6) [the Gemara] could not have asked
its question to prove that the Torah uses names of the future from the
fact that the lands are called Ashur and Kush, because we could say
that Ashur and Kush are names of regions and not the names of
cities and those regions had those names from the beginning of the
world. It is only because Rav Yosef identifies Ashur of Bereishis 2,
14, as the city Seleucia, which definitely did not exist at the time of
creation that we see the Torah uses words that would first be relevant
in the future.
Tosfos will now present his difficulty with Rashis explanation of
the Gemara. According to Rashi, the Gemara is arguing that the
name Ashur for the city Seleucia, could not have been in use at the
time of creation, because there were no cities at that time. This is
definitely true, but it really does not adequately bring out the point
the Gemara trying to make.
Although the time period the Torah is discussing is the period of
creation, the Torah was not written at that time. The Torah was
written during the life of Moshe Rabbeinu. At that time the city of
Seleucia was already in existence and could have been called Ashur.
How does this prove that the Torah uses a word of the future?
When the Torah was actually written those events were past, not
future.
5u(8 "kug ,'()cc vuv 'k4 <=g' )ua'4 )ua'n (,((n ('n4 va0 kc'
1 ;xuh cr tb,u :h
u)u4c v(v 'k 5((4ga 5u(8 cu,8k uk v(v 'k v/n kc'
but the word maneh, as the root of v/nk' because she receives only a
maneh of one hundred zuz as kesubah, should not have been
written, since it was not yet a coin in his generation?
In order to answer Tosfos question, we must say that the Torah is
speaking of events that had not yet happened when the Torah was
written during Moshe Rabbeinus life and even so the Torah uses
those words.
v(v 'k '0(k-4 v(k "(04 ('uv (n van (n(c '0(k-4 a)2k (=)k v')/u
van (n(c
It is appealing to RI to explain that that the Gemara is asking Was there a city by the name of Seleucia in the days of Moshe?
This proves that the Torah uses words that are relevant only in the
future, for it was known to [the Gemara] that the city Seleucia did
not exist during the times of Moshe. Since that city did not yet exist
during Moshes lifetime, his use of that word is based on what would
eventually occur in the future. So too, the word v/nk' is used even
though it would be relevant only in the future.
But if the region known as Ashur did exist during Moshes lifetime,
perhaps he was referring to the region and not to the city Seleucia?
Tosfos rejects this hypothesis.
>van (n(c v(va )ua' k6' 'ku k04j 7kuv '0(k- c(c-u
2 ;xuh cr tb,u :h
Because it is around Seleucia that the Tigris flows and not near
the region Ashur that existed in the times of Moshe. Since this is a
geographical fact known to the Gemara, the use of the word Ashur as
a description of the area where the Tigris flows must be based on
facts that would occur in the future. So too, the word v/nk' used in
the Torah, is based on the future.
3 ;xuh cr tb,u :h
10Bd
v#kv cr r't )t*+v cr r't, )-.+ /0h 2s, 4+4hr#s 056cs r't4 -t+
sckc 7hhv kg tkt 7hr#.' rt. kg chh9' +*hts r:gkt wr#
If you ask: but in the third Perek of Kereisos (13b) Rav says that
we rule like R Elozor who holds that one is not liable for serving
in the Bais Hamikdosh when intoxicated because of ingesting other
intoxicants, rather one is liable for serving only after drinking wine.
This contradicts Ravs ruling here that one may not rule after eating
dates.
tks 7t'k vs+cgk k+<6s )/v' 4+r+#c, 7h'+' +kt 65<c g'.' *5v+
; cr rnt 45s 57u8 9h
/vr+h kts h'* 7hsv t+v kh9t tk vs+cgs c0 kg 2t 7hr#.' rt.t chh9'
So too, it is to be understood at the end of Perek Ailu Mumin
(Bechoros 45b), that one is initially disqualified from performing
the Temple service even according to the one who holds that one is
not liable for death punishment when performing the service while
under the influence of other intoxicants, even though he holds that
post facto the service performed is not disqualified. So too, the rule
is the same in regard to ruling in matters of Torah, even though R
Elozor holds that the service is not disqualified post facto, initially
one must not rule in matters of Torah.
1) The punishment for performing service while intoxicated is death
by heavenly decree.
2) Tosfos in Kereisos 13b says that according to R Elozor the
prohibition to rule when intoxicated by other intoxicants is
rabbinic. The gloss both here and in Kereisos holds that Tosfos
here disagrees and holds that even according to R Elozor, the
prohibition of ruling when under the influence of other intoxicants
is by Torah law. If so, we need to understand how Tosfos
distinguishes between the prohibition of ruling and the liability for
performing the temple service while intoxicated. See t56 -5c'r
c5v .s=' 4thc 4+#kv who does in fact rule that one who performs
the service when under the influence of other intoxicants is not
liable for the death punishment but is liable for lashes. So too, the
Rambam there rules in 05v that one may not rule in matters of
Torah when under the influence of other intoxicants. See v*.' 2<#
there who explains that the position of the Rambam is based on
ruling in accordance with R Elozor. It emerges that according to
Rambam there is a Torah prohibition against performing Temple
service while under the influence of other intoxicants as it is
forbidden to rule in Torah matters. Tosfos here may subscribe to
the opinion of the Rambam.