(Aptitude Q) STD Table - Application in Train Man Bridge, Time and Work Problems - Mrunal

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Not really an article, just solving some readers queries to keep the STD concept refreshed.
1.
2.
Case: Train, Man and Bridge

1.
Conversion : kmph vs ms
2.
Finding length of train
Case: Time n Work : A and B
Case: Train, Man and Bridge

A man is standing on a 180m long bridge.He finds that a train crosses the bridge in 20 seconds
but himself in 8 seconds. Find the length of the train and its speed.
Approach:
Total distance=
When train crosses the bridge
When train crosses the man
length of train + width of bridge
length of train + width of bridge
m+180
m+0
Because in comparison to train, man / telephone wire / bike-rider etc are considered zero in
width.
Now make table
Train + bridge
Train + man
Speed
Time
20
Distance
M+180
Now apply STD formula and you get two equations

Train + bridge
Train + man
Speed
Time
20
Distance
M+180
Speed X time = Distance
S x 20 = (M+180)
S x 8 =M
Just solve those two equations

20s=M+180.(i)
8s=M.(ii)
So in first equation, replace the value of M=8s
20s=8s+180
20s-8s=180
12s=180
S=180/12
S=15 m/s. thats our final answer. But suppose, in the answer options, the speed is given in in
km/h, then you need to convert m/s into km/h.
Conversion : kmph vs ms
1km =1000 meters.
1 hr = 60 minutes = 60 x 60 seconds = 3600 seconds.
Therefore, 1 km / hr = 1000m / 3600 seconds
1km / hr = 5 / 18 (m/s)
In otherwords,
1 meter per second = 18 / 5 kmph.
So 15 (m/s) = 15 x (18/5) km/h = 54 kmph. Thats our final answer.
Finding length of train
Moving to the next part: find the length of this train.

From the second equation, we know that
S x 8 =M
And weve found that speed of train= 15m/s.
hence 15 x 8 =m
m=120meters.
Answer: length of train is 120 meters.
Case: Time n Work : A and B

Question: A can do a piece of work in 80 days. He works at it for 10 days and then B alone
finishes the remaining work in 42 days. In how much time will A and B together finish the work?
Make table
A
Speed
Time
80
Distance = speed x time
a x 10=80a
It means total distance to be covered, is 80a.
A works for 10 days

A
A works
Speed
Time
80
10
Distance = speed x time
a x 10=80a
10 x a =10a
See the last column. A covered distance of 10a, meaning

So 80a-10a=70a distance is yet to be covered.
Now B comes and finishes this in 42 days
A works
B finishes
Speed
Time
80
10
42
Distance = speed x
time
ax
10=80a
a x 10 =10a. (meaning 70a remains).
b x 42= 42b
That means 42b=70a (because remaining work =70a and B finished this.)
b=(70/42)a
Therefore, b=5a/3
Now if A+B worked together then, we can add their speed. And together theyve to finish 80a
distance
Update the table

A
A works
B
finishes
A+B
together
Speed
b=5a/3
a+5a/3=8a/3
Time
80
10
42
Distance = speed
x time
ax
10=80a
a x 10 =10a. (so 70a work

remains).
b x 42=
42b
80a
Apply STD in last column

Speed x time = distance
8a/3 x T =80a
Therefore T= 30 days.
Final answer: if A and B work together, itll take them 30 days to finish the job.
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Gs
Hi mrunal, should it not be 54 km/hr in first question??
sajan
CONVERTION KMPH VS MS:- Mrunal when u converted the speed of the
train from m/s to km/hr u committed a mistake. the answer should be
54km/hr :- 15m/s= 1518/5km/hr =54km/hr
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sir , in your approach when train crosses the man shouldnt it come
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Ramya
Sir, Thank you for your guidance. I have a doubt in the following
problem.
A train running at 54kmph takes 20sec to pass a platform. Next it takes
12 sec to pass a man walking at 6kmph in the same direction in which
the train is going. Find the length of the train and length of the platform.
First the relative speed is calculated since the train and man in the same
direction. (54-6 = 48). conversion = 40/3m/sec.
After that, I have doubt to proceed. Please guide me to proceed further
in this problem.
prateek badola
as in 1st qus
whn train moves with 54km/h
1-length of train will be-108m
2-length of platform will be-192m
and next 1is
the speed of goods train will be 62 km/h
it is not so difficult to solve train jst do more practice and dont go
with formulasbasic method is always cool..
Ramya
Sir, I have one doubt in the following problem.
A man sitting in a train which is travelling at 50kmph observes that a
goods train, travelling in opposite direction, takes 9 sec to pass him. If
the goods train is 280m long, find its speed.
I am confused here in calculating the relative speed and how to observe
the time taken to pass him. Please guide me to proceed.
Ramya
Sir, I have one doubt in the following problem.
A man sitting in a train which is travelling at 50kmph observes that a
goods train, travelling in opposite direction, takes 9 sec to pass him. If
the goods train is 280m long, find its speed.
I am confused here in calculating the relative speed and how to observe
the time taken to pass him. Please guide me to proceed
ritikdalal
in this we consider only length of of goods train .so total length
/a+b =time length=280m,a=50kmph=125/9metre per second ,let
speed of second train is b metre per second so 280/125/9+b
=9,b=280/9-125/9 =155/9=62 kmph
BEEMA BASHEER
kindly provide practice problems
chetan
cant we do m/8=(m+180)/20 to find the length of the train as speed in
both the cases is same
Shiv shankar
Whether this problem is right?
A man walking in fog @ 4kmph. A 20m long train overtakes him in 30
seconds and the man could see in the fog uptoa distance of 50m. Find
the speed of the train.
If right then please answer.
prateek badola
as in 1st qus
whn train moves with 54km/h
1-length of train will be-108m
2-length of platform will be-192m
and next 1is

the speed of goods train will be 62 km/h
it is not so difficult to solve train jst do more practice and dont go with
formulasbasic method is always cool..
aditi
how can i solve this question with help of STD method:3 pumps, working 8 hours a day, can empty a tank in 2 days. How many
hours a day must 4 pumps work to empty the tank in 1 day?
ritikdalal
3*8*2=x*4*1 x=48/4=12hours per day
Tahir Ahmed Majid

Sir, kindly provide the solution for 2013 Pre STD problems by STD table &
Product consistency method. Im unable to arrive at solution by either
method. May be m putting values wrong. & sir also kindly provide more
Mock problems on STD specifically for solving. Thanks.
sonal
thank you mrunal for the time consuming method keep guiding us
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Case: Train, Man and Bridge

Finding length of train

Case: Time n Work : A and B

Case: Train, Man and Bridge

When train crosses the bridge

When train crosses the man

length of train + width of bridge

length of train + width of bridge

Now apply STD formula and you get two equations

Speed X time = Distance

Just solve those two equations

Finding length of train

Moving to the next part: find the length of this train.

Case: Time n Work : A and B

Distance = speed x time

It means total distance to be covered, is 80a.

A works for 10 days

Distance = speed x time

See the last column. A covered distance of 10a, meaning

a x 10 =10a. (meaning 70a remains).

Update the table

a x 10 =10a. (so 70a work

Apply STD in last column

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