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[Speed Time Work] Two Men can nish a work, A is 3x more ecient
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1.

Case: A & B work start together but B leaves

2.

Case: A started work, B joined after 4 days, how days work lasted?

3.

Case: A starts, B joins, How long did B work?

4.

Case: A and B start together but A leaves

5.

Case: Efficiency given: A is thrice good than B

Case: A & B work start together but B leaves


Q.Kalmadi can build a stadium in 14 days, while Raja can do the same in 21 days. They started
working together.
Case #1: 3 days before the completion of work, Kalmadi was sent to Tihad jail. So find out
Total Number of days to complete the work?
Case #2: Same question but Raja goes to jail.

Step 1: Draw the STD Table


Whether it is Pipes and Cistern problem or it is Time and Work problem, draw the STD table,
fill up the values
Kalmadi

Raja

14

21

Kalmadi + Raja

Speed
Time
Distance

Step 2: Take LCM, update Table


Now well take the LCM of 14, 21
14=27
21=37
LCM (14,21)= 2x3x7=42
Lets just visualize this stadium has just 42 seats. And these fine gentlemen have to place the
seats, and drill the bolts.
So 42 seats is the Total work to be done or Total Distance to be covered.
Fill up the table
Kalmadi

Raja

Time

14

21

Distance

42

42

Kalmadi + Raja

Speed

Now the speed of Kalmadi


Sx T= D
S x 14=42 ; because we know Kalmadi takes 14 days to finish this work
Speed of Kalmadi= 42/14= 3 seats a day
Same way Raja can fit 2 seats a day (because 21 x 2 = 42)
Update the Table
Kalmadi

Raja

Kalmadi + Raja

Speed

Time

14

21

Distance

42

42

Step 3: Kalmadi + Raja Together?


What if Kalmadi + Raja work together? Obviously their speed will increase.
Now they can fit 3+2 = 5 seats per day.
Kalmadi

Raja

Kalmadi + Raja

Speed

3+2=5

Time

14

21

??

Distance

42

42

??

BUT we dont know for how many days did they work together?
So we cannot find how many seats they fixed. (STD formula requires two known values!)
So leave the (Kalmadi+Raja) column and move ahead.

Step 4: Kamadi goes to Jail, Raja Works Alone


We are given that 3 days before the completion of work, Kalmadi was sent to Tihad jail.
It means for the last three days, Raja worked alone, right ?
So, Expand the table, create one more column for Raja Alone
Kalmadi

Raja

Kalmadi + Raja

Raja alone

Speed

3+2=5

Time

14

21

??

Distance

42

42

??

So, how many seats did Raja fix in last three days?
Speed x time = distance
2 x 3 = 6. ; Because Rajas speed Is 2 and he works for 3 days.

Step 5: Remaining seats


We know that total seats= 42, and Raja fixed 6.
Meaning 42 minus 6 = 36 seats were fixed by Kalmadi +Raja together.
Plug the value back in the Table
Kalmadi

Raja

Kalmadi + Raja

Raja alone

Speed

3+2=5

Time

14

21

??

Distance

42

42

36

Again STD formula to find how many days did they work together ?
Speed (Kalmadi + Raja) x Time = Distance
5 x Time = 36
Time = 36/5=7.2
Thus, our final table looks like this

Speed

Kalmadi

Raja

Kalmadi + Raja

Raja alone

3+2=5

Time

14

21

7.2

Distance

42

42

36

Were about to solve the problem now.


What is the Total time taken by these two fine gentlemen of impeccable integrity, to build this
stadium?
Look at the finished table.
7.2 days they worked together
Plus 3 days Raja worked alone.
=7.2+3=10.2 days.
Final answer= 10.2 days
Similarly you do for case#2 when Raja is sent to Jail, 3 days before the completion of work.

Case: A started work, B joined after 4 days, how days work lasted?
Abdul and Bhide can do a piece of work in 20 days and 12 days respectively. Abdul started
the work alone and then after 4 days Bhide joined him till the completion of the work.
How long did the work last?

Step1: Create STD table


Abdul

Bhide

20

12

Speed
x Time
= distance

Step2: Take LCM of time

LCM (20,12)
in other words, which is the first number that comes in multiplication table of both 12 and 20?
Well, we know that
12 x 5 =60 and
20 x 3 = 60
Therefore, 60 is the least common multiple of (12, 20)
Assume total distance = 60
Update table
Abdul

Bhide

Time

20

12

distance

60

60

Speed

Step3: Take ratio of speed


now we know that total distance is 60. and if Abdul took 20 minutes to finish, what is his speed?
Speed x time = distance
Speed x 20 = 60
Therefore, Abduls speed is 3; similarly Bhides speed is 5.
Update the table.
Abdul

Bhide

Speed

x Time

20

12

= distance

60

60

in the exam, just do it in your head. you took LCM so youd already know that 203=60 and
125=60 so automatically 3:5 is the ratio

Step 4: start the work


Given: Abdul started the work alone and then after 4 days Bhide joined him till the completion
of the work
Means, for the first four days, Abdul worked alone.
Abdul

Bhide

Abdul started

Speed

Time

20

12

distance

60

60

34=12

In 4 days, he covered 12 kms.


So remaining work = 60 minus 12 =48.
Which was completed by X+Y
Abdul

Bhide

Abdul started

Abdul + Bhide

Speed

3+5=8

Time

20

12

??

distance

60

60

34=12

48

Run std on last column

Speed x time = distance


8 x time = 48
Time =48/ 8 =6 days
Final table looks like this
Abdul

Bhide

Abdul started

Abdul + Bhide

Speed

3+5=8

Time

20

12

distance

60

60

34=12

48

Question: How long did the work last?


X started and X+Y finished.
Look at the time cells of their respective columns. (i.e. last column and second last column)
Total time= 4 + 6=10 days.
Final Answer: work lasted for 10 days.

Case: A starts, B joins, How long did B work?


Q. Abdul & Bhide can do a job alone in 10 days and 12 days respectively. Abdul starts the
work & after 6 days Bhide also joins to finish the work together. For how many days
Bhide actually worked on the job ?
Take LCM of (10,12)=60
After 6 days, Bhide also joins. That means for the first 6 days, Abdul worked alone.
Fill up the table.

Abdul

Bhide

Abdul starts

Abdul+Bhide

Speed

(6+5)=11

Time

10

12

6 days

??

Distance

60

36

(60-36)=24

In the first 6 days, Abdul finished 6 x 6 = 36 kilometers. Hence remaining work= 60 minus 36= 24
This 24 kilometers were done by Abdul+Bhide together. (last column)
Run the STD on last column
Speed x time = distance
11 x Time =24
Time =24/11= approx. 2.18
Final answer: Bhide worked for 2.18 days.

Case: A and B start together but A leaves


Abdul and Bhide can do a job in 15 days & 10 days respectively. They began the work together
but Abdul leaves after some days and Bhide finishes the remaining job in 5 days. After how
many days did p leave?
Take LCM of (15, 10)=30 and fill up the table
Abdul

Bhide

A+B work together

only Bhide

Speed

3+2=5

xTime

15

10

??

Distance

30

??

15

According to last column, Bhide covered 3x 5= 15 kilmeteres out of total 30 km.


Hence the remaining 30 minus 15 = 15 kilometers were covered by A+B together
their combined speed is (3+2)= 5.
Run the STD formula on (A+B) column
5 x time = 15
Time = 15/5=3
Means P+Q worked together for 3 days. And then P left.
Final answer: P left after 3 days.

Case: Eciency given: A is thrice good than B


Q. Abdul is thrice as good as workman as Bhide and therefore is able to finish a job in 60
days less than Bhide. Working together, they can do it in how many days?
Abdul is thrice as good means if speed of Bhide is b, then
Speed of Abdul = 3b
Given: Abdul can finish job in 60 days less than Bhide
Means if B can do work in t days, then A can do it in t-60 days
Fill up the table
A

Speed

3b

Time

(t-60)

distance

The distance covered in each column is same, therefore


(Speed x time)As column = (speed x time) Bs column
3b x (t-60)=b x t
3(t-60)=t
t=90
Update the table with this value of t
A

Speed

3b

Time

90-60=30

90

distance
In Bs column apply STD formula so you get
b x 90 =90b that is our total distance.
When A+B work together, theyve to cover the same distance (90b)
A

A+B

Speed

3b

3b+b=4b

Time

90-60=30

90

??

b x 90=90b

90b

distance
Apply STD in last column
4b x time =90b

Time =22.5 days


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SHOURABH JOSHI
Thank you so much for ur constructive support and all ur efforts

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ashish
I think answer to 1st case,1 subquestion I.e Kalamadi left the work 3days
before should be..12.9 days.
Check and correct me , if I m wrong

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Akhil
@Ashish, you have mis-read the question, like I did in first attempt
and ended up with the same answer. You must have calculated
total time as 42/5 and substracted 3 from that. There is the
problem, the time is given considering he already left 3 days
before. So equation would be like this,
[(t-3)/14]+[t/21] = 1
t = 10.2

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Basist
the answer (10.2) is correct.
If raja goes to jail, the answer would be 9.6 days

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Rajesh

Question 1 can also be interpreted in this manner that they were


supposed to finish the work together in three days, but one was required
to go to jail three days before project completion?

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Arun
A does half as much work as B in three fourth of the time. IF together
they take 18 days to complete the work, how much time shall B take to
do it?

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anand kumar
time 2.18 of q 3 is of both not only of bhind

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sunny kumar
kindly help with below questionmy answer- 48.
actual answer-24
twenty four men can complete a work in 16 days.
thirty two women can complete the same work in 24 days.
sixteen men & sixteen women started working and worked for twelve
days
how many more men are to be added to complete the remaining work in
2 days?

thanks.

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Ron
it will be better if u could also write ur procedure of solving this Q.
Nevertheless,I think u made mistake by not subtracting 48(men req
to complete work in 4 days)-24(men already present)=24(men req)
.hope this will help

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sunny kumar
24M*16=32W*24
M=2W
So 16*2W+16W = 48(Total work)
w= 1
m=2
now no work left to be done as m again getting 48.
please help

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divya
M=2W
16M+16W=24M
we already know 24M can complete work in 16 days
24M work for only for 12days and remaining needs to

be completed by additional men + existing men to


complete in 2 days
24Mx4=nx2
n=48(this is existing men of 24 + additional men)

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Lakhan Jadeja
A B C together do work in 10 days. B C together work thrice as much as A
and A and B together work four time as much as C in what time thay can
do each other ?
sir i follow your method to solve time work quesiton but in this method
how to put your method plz guide me

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AJ
How to solve this one with STD approach:
A pump can fill a tank with water in 2 hours. Because of a leak, it took 2
hours to fill the tank. The leak can drain all the water of the tank in:

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AJ
How to solve this one also with STD approach:
A tank is filled by three pipes with uniform flow. The first two pipes
operating simultaneously fill the tank in the same time during
which the tank is filled by the third pipe alone. The second pipe fills
the tank 5 hours faster than the first pipe and 4 hours slower than

the third pipe. The time required by the first pipe is:
A. 6 hours B. 10 hours
C. 15 hours D. 30 hours

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AJ
How to solve this one with STD approach:
A pump can fill a tank with water in 2 hours. Because of a leak, it took
(7/3) hours to fill the tank. The leak can drain all the water of the tank in:

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AJ
How to solve this one also with STD approach:
A tank is filled by three pipes with uniform flow. The first two pipes
operating simultaneously fill the tank in the same time during which the
tank is filled by the third pipe alone. The second pipe fills the tank 5
hours faster than the first pipe and 4 hours slower than the third pipe.
The time required by the first pipe is:
A. 6 hours B. 10 hours
C. 15 hours D. 30 hours

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Arya
I would like to ask one question, for which i am not able to get the
solution from above cases. Please help me in solving the question.

Ques: Two workers A and B working together completed a job in 5 days.


If A worked twice as efficiently as he actually did and B worked 1/3 as
efficiently as he actually did, the work would have been completed in 3
days. To complete the job alone A would require how many days?
Reply ASAP.

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Aanya
Suppose A alone can do the work in a days.
Suppose B alone can do the work in b days.
By First statement - 1/a + 1/b = 1/5
Second statement A works twice as efficiently as he did means if
earlier he was taking a days now he will take only a/2 days.
Similarly B will take 3b days .
Thus,
2/a + 1/(3b) = 1/3
Solve above two to get value of a.

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Aanya
Suppose A alone can do the work in a days.
Suppose B alone can do the work in b days.
By First statement - 1/a + 1/b = 1/5

Second statement A works twice as efficiently as he did means if


earlier he was taking a days now he will take only a/2 days.
Similarly B will take 3b days .
Thus,
2/a + 1/(3b) = 1/3
Solve above two to get value of a.

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Preeti
Thanks Mrunal

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Sajal Sinha
person A can do a job in x days
person B can do a job in y days
part of job done by person A alone in one day is 1/x th part
part of job done by person B alone in one day is 1/y th part
part of job done by A and B together in one day is 1/x + 1/y th part
So total days required to do the job is 1/(1/x +1/y) { Suppose I can do
1/5th part of job in one day so I will need 1/(1/5) days i.e 5 days to
complete the job}
This is the only theory there are no other rules or tricks
The origin to this theory is that you cannot add inversely proportional
relations

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sneha
mukul and vipin together do a work in 6 days. if mukul does 1/5 part of
the work in 2 days, in how many days will vipin alone do the remaining
work ?

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Ravi
Mukul does 1/5 work in 2days therefore in one day he can do 1/10
work. So he alone can complete work in 10 days
Vipin and mukul together= 1/6
Vipin alone= 1/6 1/10 = 1/15
So vipin alone can do in 15 days.
But 1/5 work has already been done by Mukul so the remaining
work is 4/5
Vipin does 1 work in 15 days.
He can do 4/5 work in 15X4/5 days = 12 days

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Abhay
12??
Total combined efficiency= 100/6= 16.67
Mukul can do 100 percent wrk in = 5*2=10
Mukul efficiency= 100/10=10
therefore Vipin efficiency= 16.67-10= 6.67

Work left=4/5=80%
therefore numberbof days for vipin to complete= 80/6.67= 12
days??

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Praveen
ms 1day work= 1/10
(m+v)s 1day work=1/6
vs 1day work= 1/6-1/10 = 4/60
v takes to complete the work alone= 60/4=15 days.
hope im clear

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ASHISH
i think 7 days

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sunny kumar
The shape of a garden is rectangular in the middle and semi circular
at the both ends . Find the area and the perimeter
of this garden.
total length of garden- 20 m
bredth of garden- 7 m

i got the area right( 91+38.5)


but not getting perimeter.
my answer- perimeter of rectangl portion=40 & perimtr of circle=22, so in
total =62
but answer is 48
kindly help with this
thanks

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Aanya
You are getting the area right so you are clear that garden is a
rectangle of 7*13 and 2 semi circles of radius 3.5 . These semi
circles are adjacent to the sides of length 7.
Now perimeter 13*2 (free sides) + 2*22/7*3.5 (2*22/7*r) = 48

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sunny kumar
24M*16=32W*24
M=2W
So 16*2W+16W = 48(Total work)
w= 1
m=2
now no work left to be done as m again getting 48.
please help

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kiran
sunny complete que liko plz y tnw ka

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sunny kumar
got it.i was double counting the perimeter.
thanks!

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niharika
permiter of the garden is 76m

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sunny kumar
1 more for youkindly help with below questionmy answer- 48.
actual answer-24
twenty four men can complete a work in 16 days.
thirty two women can complete the same work in 24 days.
sixteen men & sixteen women started working and worked for twelve
days
how many more men are to be added to complete the remaining work in
2 days?

thanks.

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Anurag
16x24M=32x24W => M=2W .Now the total work is 16x24M .
16M+16W = 24M work completed 24x12M remaining 24x4M means
96M work still remaining , 24M can do 24M work per day,means they will
complete 48M work,remaining is 48M it needs 24 more Men or 48 more
women.

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shivangi
can any1 plzz help me with this ques?
20 women can finish a job in 20 days.after each day, a woman is replaced
by a man and a man is twice as efficient as a woman.on which day does
the job get completed?
ans is 18th day.

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rahul
In question, 20 women can finish a job in 20 days. assume every
women has 2 units then total unit of work is 20*2*20=800 unit(20
women has 2 unit each and work for 20 days).
Second term of question, After each day a women is replaced by a
man and a man is twice as efficient as a women,
hence, man unit is 4 (because it is twice as efficient as a women)

so a woman does 2 units of work in a day and man does 4 units of


work in a day
starting with 20 women initially
day 140 units completed
day 238 + 4 = 42 units (1 women replace by 1 men)
day 3 ..36 + 8 = 44 units (2 women replace by 2 men)
day 4 ..34 +12 = 46 units(3 women replace by 3) men) etc.. etc
now we have to find in how many days this will add to 800 unit
easy way to do this,
adding each day
day1+day2+day3+day4..=800 unit.
in 15 days total work done = 810 unit.
so work gets over on the 15th day
Answer is 15th days not 14th day

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shivangi
sorry typeing errroranswer to above question is 14th day..

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samikssha

A can do a piece of work in 36 days, B in 54 days and C in 72 days. All the


three began the work together but A left 8 days and B 12 days before the
completion of the work. How many days in all did C put in till the entire
work was finished?
pls solve it in STD method

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rahul
in last question why a and b work together for 90 days,in rest of the
questions its not like that

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Abhishek
Two pipes L and M can fill a tank in 15 and 12 h respectively and a 3rd
pipe N can empty it in 4 h. If the pipes are opened at 8 am 10 am and 11
am respectively find the time the tank will be emptied.

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San
the answer is 16.50.

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murali
thanku mrunal sir

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mrunal fan
Bhai thanks
Itna bhadiya concept samjhane k liye

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Anas M
Mrunal Bhai, I am expert in Time and Work type question. all because of
you.
Thank you so much.

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Sai Datta
Mrunal sir.. Im deaf man. I understand your explanation clearly. Now Ive
some doubts. Please clear my doubts before having bank exam next
week.
Here some questions :
1) A and B can do a piece of work in 30 days, while B and C can do the
same work in 24 days and C and A in 20 days. They all work together for
10 days when B and C leave. How many days more will A take to finish
the work?

2) 4 men can complete a piece of work in 2 days. 4 women can complete


the same piece of work in 4 days
whereas 5 children can complete the same piece of work in 4 days. If 2
men, 4 women and 10 children
work together, in how many days can the work be completed?

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Parul
10 men and 15 women can finish a work in 6 days. One man can alone
finish a work in 100 days. In how many days will a woman finish the work
?
sir how will it be solved by Std table?

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Rashi
Can someone solve this question with the above mentioned technique:
Two pipes A and B can fill a tank in 24mins and 32 mins. If both pipes are
opened together,after how much time B should be closed so that tank is
full in 18 mins. [Ans. 8mins]

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deepak
(18/24)+(x/32)=1

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vipin
its very easy. speed of a comes out to be 4 . speed of b= 3 . total
distance or time = 96. a+b = 7 . now take time of a+b = x and a
alone to be 18 x . now the equation will be 7x + 4 ( 18 x ) = 96 .
solve it and you will get the value of x = 8 min .

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vipin
total distance =96 and not time

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SANTHOSH S K
Sir, how to solve using STD table A can do a work in 15 days and B in 20
days. If they work on it together for 4 days, then the fraction of the work
that is left is?

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siddharth

please tell me ho to solve by std approach


a and b can do a job in 16 and 12 days respectively 4 days before
completion of job a joins b find out how many days b has worked alone if
b has started work alone ???????
a6
b4
c5
d7

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tejaswi
A can do a piece of work in 80 days.he works at it for 10days and then B
alone finishes the remaining work in 42 days .in how much time will A
and B working together , finish the work????
pls solve this using STD method ..
ANS: 30 DAYS

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