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A Refutation of Ilm Ma Cana Va Yacun
A Refutation of Ilm Ma Cana Va Yacun
ILM MACANA VA
YAKUN
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[REFUTATION OF ILM
MA KANA VA YAKUN.]
A REFUTATION OF
ARGUMENTS AND
ARGUMENTATIONS
OF MAULAVI RAZA OF
BARAILI ABOUT THE
ILM MA KANA VA
YACUN
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He held some special believes and these new believes became the criteria of
Sunnism as according to his followers.
One of his belief is the belief of ILM MA KAANA VA YAKUUN.
PART ONE
THE KNOWLEDGE OF what Has OCCURED AND WHAT SHALL OCCUR AND WHAT
DOES OCCUR .
According to Sunnism such a Knowledge is only ascribe to Deity Nounly ALLAH
the RABB OF UNIVERSE AND COSMOS.
THOUGH DIVINE KNOWLEDGE IS FOR BEYOND THIS AND IS INFINITE, ABSOLUTE
AND UNLIMITED , INFINITE AND OMNISCIENCE.
But even this knowledge [1] is not known to any one EXCEPT ALLAH SUB
HANAHU VA TA ALA.
This knowledge is included in ILM AL GHAIB and no one Doeth know Al Ghaib
EXCEPT ALLAH.
Thus negation of Al Ghaib implieth the negation of this knowledge.
The founder of the sect stated above first disputed over the belief That no one
Knoweth AlGhaib Except ALLAH, by supposing a division of two types of ILM AL
GHAIB A] DHATI[ESSENTIAL]
2]ILM AL GHAIB AL ATAAI/ATAI [BESTOWED/GIFTED, THEN PROPOSED THE
KNOWLEDGE OF EACH AND EVEY THING AND EACH AND EVRY EVENT WHICH DID
OCCUR,DO OCCU AND SHALL OCCUR FROM THE BEGINING OF THE COSMIC
WORLD TO THE VERY END OF WORLDY COSMOS TO THE ESSENCE OF HOLY
PROPHET [S.A.A.V.S]. This supposed Bestowed knowledge was named as ILM MA
CAANA VA YACUUN , THE KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THAT DID OCCUR, AND ALL THAT
SHALL OCCUR [ LITERALLY ALL WHICH DID BE AND ALL WHICH DO BE /SHALL BE].
[2]
THE FOUNDER OF THE SECT [3] ATTEMPTED TO PROVE HIS BELIEF BY ARGUING
FROM THE TEXT OF A NUMBER OF AAYAAT AND AHADITH.
HIS CERTRAL ARGUMENTATIONS AND ARGUMENTS FOR THIS SORT OF BELIEF IS
FROM THE FOLLOWING VERSES.
AN N-H-L 89,AL AN AAM38,AND YUSUF 111
He also used the verses AL ANAAM 59, AL QAMAR 51, AND YAA SIIN 12 IN HIS
ARGUMENTATIONS AND ARGUMENTS.
In this article /work it is tried to refute his arguments and argumentations by the
HELP OF ALLAH SUBHAANAHU VATA ALA.
If the central arguments are proved to be incorrect then it is useless to discuss
the peripheral arguments and argumentations, since the validity of peripheral
As every act which hath occur ,which does occur and which shall occur from
the very beginning of the Cosmos to the very end of the universe is written on
the tablet the BESTOWED KNOWLEDGE OF THE PROPHET CIRCUMFERENCES each
and every event, act etcetera written on the stated above Tablet. Each and every
thing which has existed in past or which does exist in present or which shall exist
in future is written on the tablet.
In general they do not take the meaning of ARABIC WORD ASHAI as Existent or
Existing Thing and avoid the arguments based upon the Heavenly Tablet. As a
result their argument becomes more general then their claims. A student of Said
Kazimi of
KATKOI/ CATCOI AMROHAHUPPER UNITED PROVINCES [ BRITISH]
INDIA namely GHULAM RASUL SAIIDII OF PAKISTAN CARACHI PAKISTANI PART OF
SUBCONTINENT accepted that these generalizations are of kind AL ISTAGHRAQ
AL URFI and not of kind AL ISTAGHRAQ AL HAQIQI.HOW EVER THIS WEAKENS THE
ARGUMENTATION AND ARGUMENTS TO THE HIGHEST DEGREE OF WEAKNESS.
HOW EVER The official arguments of Barailism FROM THESE THREE
VERSES are the arguments of Maulavi RAZA Barailvi himself.If some
followers of the cult of Baraivism differ from their ULTIMATE leader and
founder [IMAM of cult/sect] THE FIRST THIS TO COMPARE their argument
by the Arguments and argumentations of their Imam.The second thing is
to reject their differences and to accept the arguments and argumentation
of their founder and Ultimate leader [i.e Imam of Barailvism]
If their arguments are not in harmany to the arguments of their Imam then
they must be asked whether they consider the argumentationas and
arguments of their Imam as correct or not. If they consider the arguments
and argumentations of their Imam as correct then it is sufficient to
discuss the arguments and argumentations of their Imam.Since their
arguments are immaterial in compare to the arguments of their Imam. If
their arguments and argumentations can be interpreted as according to
their Imam namely MAULAVI RAZA SB OF BANS BARAILI S/O MALAVI NAQI
ALI SB then they must be interpreted as according to his arguments and
argumentations. If they cannot be interpreted then they must be rejected
as official argumentations and arguments of the cult Barailvism.
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(2)In logical form it may be restated as follow: NO USE OF THE WORLD KULL\CULL IS PARTICAULAR.
Its negation is:SOME USES FOR THE WORD KULL\CULL IS PARTICULAR.
END OF PART 2
PART THREE BEGINS
Both the original statement and the negation can not be true ,since the
contradict each other. The Law of contradiction or law of non contradiction is
valid.
It can be proved that this Negation is true hence the original statement is false.
Yet it is not required since the falsification of the claim and Invalidity these
arguments does not depend on this claim. There fore no discussion is made on
it.For sake of an argument this false statement is supposed to be true. The entire
discussion is based on this supposition in order to refute a supposed strong case
instead of an actual weak case. Some Barailvi scholars do accept that the
original claim is false yet the opine that Examples which falsify this claim
constitute only rare cases. But they do not explain the conditions where these
rare cases occur. SOME also do accept that the Umum[ Generalization/
Universality] of the word CULL/KULL is AL ISTAGHRAQ AL URFI AND NOT AL
ISTAGHRAQ AL HAQIQI. Since Al Istaghraq al Haqidi implies an equlity of Eternal
Knowledge and Not Eternal Knowledge, which even they do not consider as
Islamic. How ever the founder of the cult Maulavi RAZA SAHIB strongly claim
that if some one claims the Equality of Eternal Knowledge Of Deity and Temporal
Knowledge of Prophet, HE STILL REMAINS IN GROUP OF Urfa.[Nau dhu billah.]
See the FootNotes of ADDAULATU MAKKIAH by the founder of sect.
THE ENTIRE DISCUSSION IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF PRESENT DISCUSSION .
Note@ According to a great Philosopher [MATURIDI-ASHARI ]Of India The
heavenly Tablet is a Great Cosmic Brain or mind. Years before the invention of
computers and their hard drives, the concept of a Supreme intelligent Brain or
mind was proposed by ASHARITE-MATURIDITE AMULGUM IN INDIA.
[A number of Indian Sunnis ar both Asharite and Maturidite since the study both
and dotry to make hormony between these two Sunni Majority Sects and
consider them as one single sect. Some even use the word ASHAIRAH not in the
meaning of Pure Asharites but for the collection of ASHAIRAH AND MATURIDIAH.]
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I some one claims that he can prove this belief form these three verses
then he must have to choose at least one of the following statements as
article of belief of his sect/cult what so ever.
A] AN ATTRIBUTE OF ETERNAL CAN BE BESTOWED.
B] ACTS OF DEITY ARE BESTOWED.
C] A BESTOWED ATTRIBUTE [ OR SOME BESTOWED ATTRIBUTES] CAN
CIRCUMHERENCE A NON BESTOWED ATTRIBUTE [OF DEITY].
D]A NON ETERNAL ATTRIBUTE OR NON ETERNAL ACT OF ETERNAL IS
BESTOWED.
E]AL KALAM AL LAFZIYV IS ATAAI [BESTOWED].
F]AN ETERNAL CAN BE ATAAI.
G]WHEN DEITY CREATETH A THING HE BESTOWETH THE THING TO HIS
DIVINE SELF. [NA UDHUBILLAQH]
H]ACTS OF CREATED SUPPOSITA ARE THE ACTS OFN DEITY.
I] TO CREATE AN ACT IS TO DO THE ACT IN THE GERAMMATICAL
INFINITIVE SENSE. EG TO CREAT THE ACT OF STEALING OF A RATIONAL
SUPPOSITUM IS TO STEAL HIMSELF BY THE UNCREATED CREATER OF
THE ACT [NA UDHUBILLAQH].
NOTE THAT IF SOME ONE REFUSES TO ACCEPT ANY ONE OF THEM
ACTUALLY CONTRADICTS IMSELF SOME WHERE IT IS ARGUMENTATIONS
AND ARGUMENTS EITHER IN INTIAL STEPS OR IN MIDVIAL STEPS OR IN
FINAL STEPS OR ELSE.
[ALL THESE STATEMENT ARE NOT NECESSARY INDEPENDENT OF EACH
OTHER]
ANALYSIS OF THE ARGUMENTS AND ARGUMENTATIONS IN THE SO CALLED PROOF
The form of the argument in the alleged proof is as follow#
A implieth B
B Implieth C
C implieth D
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D implieth E
And E is the desired belief
Q.E.D
If it is shewn that A Doeth Not Imply B , then all the alleged proof falls
down and declines.There is a series of implications among the
occurrances of different events and things./
If it is shewn that any one of them can not occur or is intrinsically Absurd
to occur ,the entire proof becomes wrong, incorrect, invalid and unsound.
To attack this form of proof it is sufficient to shew that any one of A,B,C,D
doeth not imply the next consecutive one /statement..
Logicians do agree that if Active Participle of L-zuum [Lazim] is
Rationally/Intrinsically absurd[1]then the massive participle Malzuum is
either Intrinsically /Rationally Possible or Intrinsically/Rationally Absurd
depending upon the kind,type,nature,intrinsic properties,charecterstics,of
the IMPLICATION[ L-ZUUM].
Logicians are how ever divided what if MALZUUM is
Rationally/Intrinsically Absurd .Some holds the opinion that if Malzuum is
Intrinsically Absurd then Lazim is either Intrinsically absurd/Rationally
Absurd or Intrinsically /Rationally Possible depending upon the
Nature,Type etc of Implication as stated in the former case stated
immediately above.
Some hold the view that If MALZUM is Intrinsically Absurd then Lazim is
Intrinsically absurd.
Some do go in minute detains. A majority of Excogitators
[Muhaqqiqin/Researchers in logic/M-NAT-QAH] believe that Intrinsic
Implication is either between an Intrinsic Absurds or between Intrinsic
Possibles.But Extrinsic Implication may be between an INTRINSIC
ABSURD AND INTRINSIC POSSIBLE.
In any case all agree that it is Rationally/Intrinsically Absurd that there is
an Implication between OCCURANCIALLY POSSIBLE[CONTINGENT] and
Intrinsically/ ABDURD irrespective and regardless of LAZIM or Malzum [2].
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FOOT NOTES.
[1] In general Rationally Absurd and Intrinsic Absurd are used as
alternative terms ,yet some do make some distinction between these two
terms. A CONTRADICTION is an Intrinsic Absurd.Some may use the term
Logical Absurd for an Intrinsic ABSURD. AS FOR WE, We consider
ANNHILIATION OF DIVINE ESSENCE ,INCARNATION OF DEITY in animal or
human Natures and forms as Intrinsically and logically ABSURD. A
number of theologians use the word Rationally absurds even for those
Intrinsic Possibles which Imply antrinsic Absurd and there are some
rational arguments on the Implication.It must be noted that this type of
implication s Extrinsic but Rational id est there are some Rational Proofs
on the Extrinsic Implication. How ever in this work both terms i.e
Intrinsically Absurd and Rationally Absurd are used as alternatives unless
and other wise stated explicitly.
It may be noted that if some thing externally implies a Contradiction then
it may not be an Intrinsic Absurd. But if some thing implieth a
Contradiction Intrinsically it is Certainly Intrinsically Absurd.( IF ANY
THING IMPLIES AN INTRINSIC ABSURD INTRINSICALLY THEN IT IS NOT
IN DIVINE OMNIPOTENCE BUT IF ANY THING IMPLIETH AN INTRINSIC
ABSURD EXTRINSICALLY THEN IT MAY BE IN DIVINE OMNIPOTENCE IF IT
IS ITSELF NOT A CONTRADICTION)
It must be noted that an intrinsically absurd is also logically absurd.So
death of Deity is logically absurd since DEITY IS INTRINSICALLY AND
LOGICALLY NECESSARY. There is a saying of a great logician of India that
logic begans with the Necessity of Divine Essence.
[2] If A implies B then B is Lazim Of A.Active and Passive participles are
according to ARABIC LANGUAGE.The word ISTALZAM is however more
close to modern logicians then the words L-ZUUM,LAZIM OR MALZUM.
A number of Logicians opine that Malzum cannot be with out Lazim but
Lazim can be with out Malzuum. That is if A implies B IT MAY BE THE
CASE
THAT B may be implied by some thing else say C.
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END OF PART 3
PART 4 BEGINS
CASE 01
DISCUSSION ON KALAM AN NAFSIY.
If by the Word QURA~N IDEAL DICTIONIS / IDEAL DICTUM [ AL KALAM AN NAFSI]
IS MEANT THEN All toAhlusunnah Wal Jamaah who do believe in Ideal Dictionis
do believe that it is ETERNAL.
The founder of the cult Maulivi Rada/Raza Sahib Of Bans Baraili [United Provinces
British India
1857 to 1947~~] denies that AL KALAM AL LAFZI AND AL KALAM AN NAFSI as
two Attributes and consider them as One., he did not deny the Eternity of this
Single Kalam /Dictionis /LALIA.
Thus Kalam An Nafsiy Al Qadim is meant.
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ANSWER.
ONLY A DEVIANT CAN CLAIM SUCH A THING. IF not deviant from Ahlussu
nah then a deviant from the Majority of Ahlussunnah.
Maulavi Raza was a deviant since he did declair all Asharites and
Maturidites in error since they believe that AL CALAM AL LAFZIY and AL
CALAM AN NAFSIY are two Attributes ,and not One Attribute.This does
prove that the founder of sect was a deviant from the Majority Of
Sunnism. This shall be discussed latter.
EPILOGUE..
A] IF by the word QURAN ~VERBAL DICTIONIS~ is meant then VERBAL
DICTIONIS Is either Eternal or Not Eternal. If It is Not Eternal then It is
Either BESTOWED or NOT-BESTOWED. If It Is Eternal then No Attribute
Of Verbal Dictionis Can Be Bestowed.If Attributres Of Verbal Dictionis
like TABYAAN,TAFSIIL,SIDQ[Truth of Assertive or Negative
statements]etc are Exitential Attribute Of Verbal Dictionis and are NOT
BESTOWED.
NO bestowed Attribute can circumference any one of the Non Bestowed
Attributes , neither collectively nor individually,irrespective to their
connections and pertaining to All Existing Things or Some Existing
Things.The Non Existential Attributes of Verbum Dictionis is based on
some Existential Attribute Of Verbum Dictioniswhich cannot be
Circumferenced by Bestowed Attributes [Neither collectively Nor
Individually].HENCE NEITHER THE NON EXISTENTIAL ATTRIBUTE NOR
THE EXISTENTIAL ATTRIBUTE upon which the Non Existential Attribute is
based can be circumference by the Bestowed Knowledge.
B] If the Verbum Dictionis Of Deity Is Temporalthen All Of Its Existential
Attributes Are Temporal. Since NoExistential Attribute Of Non Eternal Is
ETERNAL , AND No Attribute Of Eternal Can be Non Eternal.
But in this case None Of Them Can Be Bestowed. SinceThey are
Ascribed to the Eternal Deityand No BESTOWED ATTRIBUTE can be
ascribed to Deity in the meaning and sense, in which DIVINE VERBAL
DICTIONIS and Its Attributes Are Ascribed To Deity,
C]The Non Existential Attributes in this case are based upon Not
Bestowed Temporal Attributes As the Existential Bases of Non
Existential Attribute Of Not Bestowed VERBUM DICTIONIS can not be
circumference by Bestowed Attributes say Bestowed Knowledge, the
Non Existential Attibibutes can not be circumference by Bestowed
Attrbutes.
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CASE 03
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~~~~ There are two Barailis [i.e two places of same name] in United
Provinces[India] A] RAI BARAILI. 2] BANS BARAILI. Citizen of both Barailis
are called Barailvis /Barilwis. But this generates ambiguity. So one may
make a distinction by calling the citizen of Rai Baraili AS Rai Barailvi, and
the citizen of Bans Baraili as Bans Barailvi.But the very same word is now
used for a sect or cult which dio claim to be only Sunnite group on the
globe .This sect or cult was founded by Maulvi RAZA/RADA BANS
BARAILVI. The name of the sect/cult is Barailiah, Barailviah , Barailvism,
Barailviat. Some use the letter V and other use the letter W in Languages
using Latin Alphabets and Latin script. As their is no confusion as a sect
or ascribed to sect the word Bans is not used for a follower of the cult and
for the sect. The sect/cult is also known as RAZA KHANIAH or RAZA
KHANISM or RAZAIAH or RAZAISM. The words derived from the noun Raza
[RADA] the proper noun of the founder of the sect. A follower of the
sect/cult is called Razai as well.Some also write BARAILI AS BRELI [ Bailvi
as breli]. Also Barilee, Barailee,Barely ect.
The letter Dad is read as Zad or Zwad OR Zuad In Urdu ,hence D is read
as Z.
[Foot Noot Of page 1]
[1] Uptill now no Barailwi/Barailvi Scholor has ever claimed that AL
KALAM AN NAFSI is not etrernal.[Foot Note Of page 1]
[2]Some may also claim that Every [Existential] Attribute Of Eternal
is Eternal. This is a very strong statement. Even the [relatively]
weaker statement is sufficient to refute these arguments and
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Deity Loveth yet Deity Doeth not love Evil.Had love been an Essential
Attribute Deity would have love Good and Not Good say Bad or Evil
All alike, with Intrinsic Necessity. {In this case it would have been
INTRINSICALLY ABSURD NOT TO LOVE ANY THING.} If Love have
been an Active Attribute Deity would have loveth Good and Evil with
Extrinsic Necessity or Relative Necessity.{ In this case it would have
been EXTRINSICALLY ABSURD NOT TO LOVE ANY THING.} If
Forgiveness would have been an Essential Attribute then Deity would
have been unable to Punish any one with Intrinsic Necessity and
would punish every one with Intrinsic Necessity . Imperfections upon
DIVINE ESSENCE IS INTRINSICALLY ABSURD.
Had it been an Active Attribute Deity would have punish every one
with Extrinsic Necerssity even if he would have the Power to Punish.
The difference between Extrinsic Absurd and Relative Absurd is that
A relative Absurd is An Extrinsic Absurd of a particular Act or event.
For example It is TO FORGIVE FIRAUN IS AN EXTRINSIC ABURD BUT
THE ACT OF FORGIVING IS NOT EXTRINSIC ABSURD. So the act of
forgiving a particular Suppostum is Relatively Absurd. But a rock so
heavy that Deity CANNOT Lift or Move is Intrinsically Absurd.
.Essential Attributes Of Divinity are LA GHAIR, Whether AIN OR LA
AIN VA LA GHAIR.
Maturidiah consider TACVIN as the MANSHA of relations between
Divine Act and TACVIN OR QUDRAH. These Relations are some time
also called Active Attributes.
[FOOT NOTE OF Page 11]
[5] Same is the case of Attributes Of Deity .In Subhan Assubbuh the]
founder of Barailvism Explitly clearifies that he believes that Divine
Attributes are LAVAZIM OF DIVINE ESSENCE. In his extremism he
even croses the limits and believes in LAZIM OF LAZIM as well. But
as few today study this work , number of scholars of latter
generations of Barailvism believes in Identity / AIN instead of Lazim
in general due to influence of Khairabadi and Rampuri cults which
are akin to Barailvism on several issues.[Foot Note Of Page 13].
Differences between Khairabadis and Barailvis is an open area of
research, and scholars are invited to study this area.
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Books of Barailvism
1] SUBHAANUSSUBUUH BY MAULVI RAZA OF BANS BARAILI UNITED
PRIVINCES INDIA
2] VASAYA SHARIF BY MAULVI RAZA OF BANS BARAILI UNITED
PRIVINCES INDIA
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