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    COMBATING TERRORISM: IMPLEMENTATION AND STATUS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE DOMESTIC PREPAREDNESS PROGRAM HEARING BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE OF THE COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM AND OVERSIGHT HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ONE HUNDRED FIFTH CONGRESS SECOND SESSION OCTOBER 2, 1998 Serial No. 105-208 Printed for the use of the Committee on Government Reform and Oversight ae U.S, GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE 56-894 CC WASHINGTON : 1999 For sale by the U.S. Government Printing Office ‘Superintendent of Documents. Congressional Sales Office, Washington, DC 20402 PZ COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM AND OVERSIGHT DAN BURTON, Indiana, Chairman BENJAMIN A. GILMAN, New York HENRY A. WAXMAN, California J. DENNIS HASTERT, Iilinois ‘TOM LANTOS, California CONSTANCE A. MORELLA, Maryland ROBERT E. WISE, Jn, West Virginia CHRISTOPHER SHAYS, Connecticut MAJOR R. OWENS, New York CHRISTOPHER COX, California EDOLPHUS TOWNS, New York ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida PAUL E. KANJORSKI, Pennsylvania JOHN M. McHUGH, New York GARY A. CONDIT, California STEPHEN HORN, California CAROLYN B. MALONEY, New York JOHN L, MICA, Florida THOMAS M. BARRETT, Wisconsin THOMAS M. DAVIS, Virginia ELEANOR HOLMES NORTON, Washington, DAVID M. McINTOSH, Indi De MARK E. SOUDER, Indian: CHAKA FATTAH, Pennsylvania JOE SCARBOROUGH, Florida ELIJAH E. CUMMINGS, Maryland JOHN B. SHADEGG, Arizona DENNIS J. KUCINICH, Ohio STEVEN C. LATOURETTE, Ohio ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH, Ilinois MARSHALL “MARK” SANFORD, South DANNY K. DAVIS, Minois Carolina JOHN F. TIERNEY, Massachusetts JOHN E. SUNUNU, New Hampshire JIM TURNER, Texas PETE SESSIONS, Texas THOMAS H. ALLEN, Maine MICHAEL PAPPAS, New Jersey HAROLD E. FORD, Jr., Tennessee VINCE SNOWBARGER, Kansas onee BOB BARR, Georgia BERNARD SANDERS, Vermont DAN MILLER, Florida (Independent) RON LEWIS, Kentucky Kevin Bien, Staff Director Dante R. MOLL, Deputy Staff Director Davip A. Kass, Deputy Counsel and Parliamentarian Lisa Smit ARAFUNE, Deputy Chief Clerk PHIL SCHILIRO, Minority Staff Director SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE J. DENNIS HASTERT, Chairman MARK E. SOUDER, Indiana THOMAS M. BARRETT, Wisconsin CHRISTOPHER SHAYS, Connecticut TOM LANTOS, California ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN, Florida ROBERT E. WISE, Jr, West Virginia JOHN M. McHUGH, New York GARY A. CONDIT, California JOHN L. MICA, Florida ROD R. BLAGOJEVICH, Ilinois JOHN B. SHADEGG, Arizona SIM TURNER, Texas STEVEN C. LaTOURETTE, Ohio ELIJAH E. CUMMINGS, Maryland BOB BARR, Georgia JOHN F, TIERNEY, Massachusetts Ex Orricio DAN BURTON, Indiana HENRY A. WAXMAN, California ROBERT CHARLES, Staff Director and Chief Counsel ANDREW RICHARDSON, Professional Staff Member ‘Ay DAVENPORT, Clerk MICHAEL YEAGER, Minority Counsel Davin RaPatto, Minority Counsel ap CONTENTS Hearing held on October 2, 1998 .... Statement of: Blitzer, Robert M., Section Chief, Domestic Terrorism/Counterterrorism Planning Section, National Security Division, Federal Bureau of Inves- tigation, Department of Justice, accompanied by Michael J. Dalich, Chief of Staff, Office of Justice Programs, Department of Justice Charles 1. Cragin, Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Reserve Affairs, Department of Defense; James Q. Roberts, Prin- cipal Director for Policy and Missions, Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, Depart- ment of Defense, and Robert Knouss, Director, Office of Emergency Preparedness, Department of Health and Human Services Davis, Richard, Director, National Security Analysis, National Security and International Affairs Division, U.S. General Accounting Office, ac- companied by Davi D'Agostino, Assistant Director, National Securit Analysis, National Security and International Affairs Division, US. General Accounting Office; Larry C. Johnson, Berg Associates, former Deputy Director, Office of Counterterrorism, Department of State; Frank J. Cilluffo, senior analyst, Center for Strategic and International Studies; and Frederick H, Nesbitt, director of governmental affairs, International Association of Fire Fighters ... Letters, statements, ete., submitted for the record Blitzer, Robert’ M,,'Section Chief, Domestic Terrorism/Countertertorism Planning Section, National Security Division, Federal Bureau of Inves- Ligation, Department of Justice, prepared statement of. Cilluffo, Frank J., senior analyst, Center for Strategic at Studies, prepared statement of : Cragin, Charles L., Principal Deputy or Risetve Affairs, Departnent of Gefense aud James @. Hoberts, Prine cipal Director for Policy and Missions, Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense for Special Operations and Low-Intensity Conflict, Depart- ment of Defense, prepared statement of .. ae Dalich, Michael J., Chief of Staff, Office of Ju of Justice, prepared statement of ................ Davis, Richard, Director, National Securit; iysis, iy and International Affairs Division, U.S. General Accounting Office, pre- pared statement of Hastert, Hon. Dennis J. of Illinois, prepared statement of .-eo-- Johnson, Larry C., Berg Associates, former Deputy Dire Counterterrorism, Department of State, prepared statement of . Knouss, Robert, Director, Office of Emergency Preparedness, Depai of Health and Human Services, prepared statement of Nesbitt, Frederick H., director of governmental affairs, International sociation of Fire Fighters, prepared statement of am 101 104 50 132 115 COMBATING TERRORISM: IMPLEMENTATION AND STATUS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF DE- FENSE DOMESTIC PREPAREDNESS PRO- GRAM FRIDAY, OCTOBER 2, 1998 House OF REPRESENTATIVES, SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, INTERNATIONAL AFFAIRS, AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE, CoMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM AND OVERSIGHT, Washington, DC. The subcommittee met, pursuant to notice, at 10:07 a.m., in room 2154, Rayburn House Office Building, Hon. Mark E. Souder (acting chairman of the subcommittee) presiding. Present: Representatives Hastert, Souder, and Barrett. Staff present: Robert B. Charles, staff director/chief counsel; Michele Lang, special counsel; Andrew Richardson, professional staff member; Amy Davenport, clerk; and Michael Yaeger and David Rapallo, minority counsels. Mr. SOUDER. Good morning. The subcommittee on National Secu- rity, International Affairs, and Criminal Justice will come to order. Tn light of the perceived increase in the probability of a terrorist attack on American soil involving weapons of mass destruction, today the subcommittee will examine several aspects of the Depart- ment of Defense Domestic Preparedness Program. Commonly re- ferred to as the Nunn-Lugar-Domenici plan, it is designed to pre- pare local government authorities, such as police, fire, and emer- gency services personnel for a terrorist incident involving a chemi- cal, biological, or nuclear weapon. Although the program is run primarily through the Defense De- partment, many other departments, notably Justice and Health and Human Services, have important roles to play in preparing our Nation for the consequences of a terrorist incident. The Domestic Preparedness Program has matured to the point where we can fairly evaluate its performance, and we have many concerns regarding the manor in which this program is being im- plemented. ‘Fssues such as the criteria for choosing cities which are to receive Federal aid, the apparent duplication in training and equipment loans, the sustaining of equipment once delivered, and the lack of a valid threat and risk assessment demand closer scru- tiny. garding this last point, the subcommittee took corrective ac- tion this year. The subcommittee maintains that implementation of @ 2 this program should be closely linked to a valid threat and risk as- sessments. We worked with the House National Security Committee on this year’s defense authorization bill to include language required in the Department of Justice to perform such assessments. ‘this, require- ment is now in title XIV of the Defense Conference Report which has passed both the House and the Senate. As we continue our ex- amination of this program, we may decide that further legislative action is necessary to correct other deficiencies. I now yield to Mr. Hastert, the subcommittee chairman for a statement. [The prepared statement of Hon. Dennis J. Hastert follows:] fd it i i i] Congress of the United States House of Representatives CCOMMTTEE ON GOVERNMENT REFORM ANO OVERSIGHT 287 Rartums House Orne Buon Wasson, DC 20515-6143 Te i iy t " iM i li Opening Statement of the Honorable J. Dennis Hastert ‘Chairman ‘Subcommittee om National Secarity, Internatioual Affairs and Criminal Justice October 2, 1998 Good morning. I want to thank the Vice Chairman for chairing this hearing. We are here today to examine another aspect of US. efforts to combat terorism. Our focus \oday is on the domestic response to terrorism, which I believe is very timely given the ‘events that have oceurred during the last few months. ‘To ay that tis insur “hits home” would be an understatement. Experts disagree ‘on the severity of the terorist threat inthe US. and some believe itis emote. However, ithas been the opinion of Congress that terrorist aftack involving a weapon of mass

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