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Doses are 12-24mg, Duration is 4-8 hours. Doses of 100mg have been taken
safely. 2C-B seems to be an extraordinarily colorful hallucingen similar
to LSD -- apparently somewhat analytical and dissasociative in higher doses
or in those sensitive to those effects.
Quote from Ecstasy: The MDMA Story...
[begins with a quotation from Alexander Shulgin]:
2C-B... is a tool... which ties the mental processes directly
and constructively into the physical soma.
The analgesic effects experienced with many, if not most,
psychedelic drugs, are not present with 2C-B. On the
contrary, there is increased body awareness of every kind,
including skin sensitivity, heightened responsiveness to
smells, tastes, and sexual stimulation.
One experiences increased consciousness of physical
health and energy, or, on the other hand, sharpened
awareness of any body imbalance or discomfort.
2C-B allows for rich visual imagery and intesnse eyes-
closed fantasy without the cluttering up of the mental field
with too much elaboration... It is a superb tool for learning
and growth.
[...] At high doses (above 30 mgs.), 2C-B is intensely hallucinogenic,
and, like any major psychedelic, can be frightening for certain people.
In small doses, it becomes a mild sensory enhancer but does not have the
strongly empathogenic qualities that MDMA has.
Perhaps the best use that has been found for 2C-B is as a synergist
with MDMA. When taken together, the MDMA pushes the non-specific 2C-B
reaction in a more warm and emphathetic direction. Because 2C-B is a
psychedelic drug, and therefore not fully predictable, its action can take
the user in many different directions. But if the set and setting are right,
2C-B can enhance the desire for sexual orgasm during an MDMA experience.
The synergy of the two substances can on occasion be a true aphrodisiac.
Shulgin writes in PiHKAL:
"The most succesfful reports have followed a program in which the two drugs
are not used at the same time, nor even too closely spaced. It appears that
the optimum time for the 2C-B is at, or just before, the final baseline
recovery of the MDMA."
DOB: 2,5-Dimethoxy-4-Bromoamphetamine. The only chemical difference is
the addition of an extra carbon to the chain. This turns the
phenethylamine into an alpha-methyl-phenethylamine (because the
addition of a carbon means attatching a methyl group to the
alpha carbon of the phenethylamine) also called a phenylisopropylamine
or simply an amphetamine.
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Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1993 00:22:14 -0800
From: Alexander T. Shulgin
To: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu
Subject: bromo
}
} Hi:
}
} There has been quite a flow of stuff on the subject of BROMO on
} alt.drugs entry. Maybe you can post some parts of the following
} that might answer some of the comments, questions, or errors
} being put out there on the topic.
}
} (1) Bromomescaline is without doubt 2C-B. The dosage, the
} duration, the nature of the experience, all seem consistent with
} this assignment. Also, as you have indicated, the replacement of
} a methoxy group (of mescaline) with a bromo atom gives the
} isomeric structure (a little rearrangement needed) of 2C-B.
}
} (2) It releases bromic acid. Of course not. Bromic acid
} (HBrO3) is an unstable chimera which is substantially unknown.
} Probably what is meant is that it releases hydrobromic acid
} (HBr) but then there is no experimental evidence that HBr is
} released either. I suspect that the bromine atom stays on the
} drug molecule all the way through the kidney, and that there
} is no release of this element at any time in the body.
}
} (3) It is illegal, or a scheduled drug. No so. 2C-B was added
} to the German law in January of this year, but in the US it is
} still an unnamed drug in Federal law.
}
} (4) It burns on snorting (insufflation). It sure does, but this
} is most likely due to the fact that it is extremely insoluble in
} water, and probably sits on the mucous membranes for quite a
} while until it dissolves and is absorbed. And until this happens
} it irritates and blisters the skin at the sites where the solid
} particles of the drug happen to settle. Once absorbed, the
} pain disappears, and the effects start. A challenge to this
} would be to snort the acetate or the hydrobromide salt, both of
} which are quite a bit more soluble in water. These should have
} the same psychological effect, and they should act even more
} quickly (no slow dissolving) and act with little or no pain.
}
} I would love to know who in the wide wide world of information
} input discovered the term bromic!! It cannot believe it has any
} merit.
}
} Can you drift some of this on to the world of alt.drugs and
} satisfy this search for information?
}
} Thanks.
}
} Sasha
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: J
Subject: Re: 2CB
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1993 00:55:23 GMT
In article <0gh7cbq00Uh748I6wt@andrew.cmu.edu> Michael J Minnich <inhuman+@CMU.E
DU> writes:
>
>I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with 2CB. I've read
>Gracie&Zarkov's description of it, but they took something like 3 times
>the reccomended dosage, so it didn't seem very typical.
Their report surprises me somewhat. Definitely atypical, although it
does seem to be the case that people's response to 2C-B varies
markedly. Most people find it to be very good, over a range of
dosage levels.
>Anyone care to relate personal experiences, or point me in the direction
>of an FTP site with more information on it? Thanks...
Here is an anonymous discussion of the effects of 2C-B:
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For me, 2C-B seems to be in a different league from all other drugs.
No other experience has come close to that of 2C-B. Superficially,
it seems to lie somewhere between MDMA and psilocybin, i.e. it is
both entactogenic (in a way I find more wholesome and satisfying
than MDMA or MDE) and psychedelic. Unlike psilocybin, it leaves
the ego much more intact - the mind remains clear and comfortable
throughout. Unlike MDMA it is unlikely to cause inappropriate
emotional bonding between people - only to encourage appropriate
bonding.
My first experience with 2C-B was with four doses, each of about
20-25mg of the hydrochloride, spaced by 40 minute intervals. The
experiment was conducted in private with one other person.
Because of the spaced doses, the onset was gradual and gentle.
I was slowly lifted out of my ordinary life, and taken to a
state of pure heaven. Laurie Andersen once said "Paradise is
like where you are right now, only much much better" and this
about sums it up. Everything around me was somehow transformed
into absolute perfection. There were mild visual distortions
which were tasteful decorations but in no way got in the way.
All sensation became the most pleasurable possible - food,
touch, sound, sight, sex were all simply perfect, but none
of this was at all overwhelming. Throughout I remained totally
calm, rational, and in control, just feeling better than I
have ever felt before. There was a sense of "this is the best -
I have finally arrived - I am complete and need never look
further than this." 2CB is heaven, but it is also mundane -
there are no fireworks, no fake euphoria - the change is
so subtle you could almost forget it is there. We weren't
moved to do anything differently - just to exist in this in
this beautiful state and behave normally.
With one foot in heaven and one foot on earth, just after the
peak, I found myself in a state of introspection. I felt so
indescribably emotionally beautiful that it brought me to
tears. Then, all the cares and worries of recent weeks came
flooding at me, but not at an unbearable rate. It was as if
the 2C-B were saying "I have given you 2 hours of perfect
bliss, but you are about to return to your normal life. Here
are some issues which are bothering you, and now is the
perfect time to do something about them". The self-analysis
was honest and useful - not distorted and certainly not
superficial - and it was compelling and motivating.
The comedown was slow and gentle. There was no sense of loss,
no desire to regain the state immediately (or at all!); on
the contrary, the subtle return to normality was welcome.
Every state between heaven and earth felt just right.
If it is impossible to adequately describe any drug induced
state in words, this is doubly true with 2C-B. For me, the
2C-B experience is unparalleled, so I would recommend that
people try it. Some do not seem to enjoy it, some do not seem
to understand it, but many do.
A few final notes: My experiences suggest that there is nothing
that can be added to the 2C-B experience - nothing can make
it better than it is, and so all other drugs should be avoided
contemporaneously. Also, insufflation seems to increase the
potency 2-3 times, as well as somewhat shortening the duration.
The onset is rapid (half to three minutes) and somewhat disorienting,
and can approach the feel and intensity of smoked DMT, particularly
in a visual sense. The burning pain associated with snorting 2C-B
can detract from the experience initially.
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J
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From: Mark_Farone@sfa.ufl.edu (Mark Farone)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: 2CB
Date: 18 Apr 1994 12:28:10 GMT
Message-ID: <Mark_Farone-180494082742@128.227.37.18>
In article <766538637-0-4072@chop.isca.uiowa.edu>, David Roknich
<Hologram@chop.isca.uiowa.edu> wrote:
> dg596@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell Faraday)writes:
> Another new sensation gripping our little pocket of cultural
> coolness is something called 2CB. As a discussion starter, I'd
> ......
> 2CB is a designer drug that was not illegal until a few morons
> blathered publicly about its existance in the early 80s
With respect to US laws, 2cb (aka Nexus, Zenith) wasn't scheduled until
late 1993.
Its actual chemical name is 4-Bromo-2,5-Dimethoxyphenethylamine.
The Feds were alerted when a rather rich fella in Tampa, FL took some to
relieve impotence, as it was being promoted. When started tripping he
called the DEA and the next thing you know...
See _Federal Register_, Vol. 58, No. 212, Thurs. Nov 4,1993 page 58819-20.
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Mark Farone "A pile of rocks ceases to be a rock pile when
University of Florida somebody comtemplates it with the idea
Mark_Farone@sfa.ufl.edu of a cathedral in mind." -Saint Exupery
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From: coutsoft@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Coutsoftides)
Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
Subject: Re: 2CB
Date: 23 Apr 1994 09:12:16 -0700
Message-ID: <940423.091216.3567@cheshire.oxy.edu>