Datamined List Invisible Fire Inside Smoke After 0.6.

12 Upd
Notes :
*) : Cruisers with smoke generator
**) : Also +AFT for DDs & some CL, also without range upgrade
***) : With full stealth build
: The best in her class
: 2nd best in her class
: The worst in her class
: 2nd worst in her class

Tier 5 Battleships Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya 10.5 16.8
2 Knig 11.2 16.5
3 Iron Duke 12.6 16.8
4 New York 14.0 18.0
5 Texas 14.0 16.4
6 Kongo 14.2 21.2

Tier 5 Cruisers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Emerald* 5.4 13.6
2 Knigsberg 6.0 16.5
3 mile Bertin 6.2 14.9
4 Murmansk 6.6 14.8
5 Krasny Krym 6.6 14.0
6 Furutaka 6.9 13.9
7 Omaha 6.9 15.2
8 Marblehead 6.9 13.9
9 Kirov 8.0 16.3

Tier 5 Destroyers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Minekaze 2.2 10.7
2 Kamikaze 2.2 10.4
3 Mutsuki 2.2 10.7
4 T-22 2.3 12.9
5 Nicholas 2.5 13.1
6 Okhotnik 2.5 11.0
7 Gremyashchy 2.7 14.3
 8 Podvoisky 3.0 12.6

Tier 6 Battleships Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 New Mexico 12.3 16.1
2 Arizona 12.5 16.0
3 Warspite 13.0 16.3
4 Queen Elizabeth 13.2 17.2
5 Bayern 13.7 17.7
6 Dunkerque 14.2 18.2
7 Mutsu 16.5 20.4
8 Fuso 17.3 21.8

Tier 6 Cruisers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Perth* 4.5 12.8
2 Leander* 4.6 13.2
3 Duca d'Aosta 5.8 14.0
4 Nrnberg 6.1 16.5
5 Budyonny 6.6 16.6
6 Cleveland 6.7 14.6
7 La Galissonnire 6.7 15.9
8 De Grasse 6.7 16.2
9 Aoba 6.8 14.9
10 Molotov 7.1 15.5
11 Admiral Graf Spee 9.5 16.0

Tier 6 Destroyers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Gallant 2.4 12.2
2 Hatsuharu 2.5 13.0
3 Fubuki 2.6 13.8
4 Shinonome 2.6 10.8
5 Gnevny 2.7 14.3
6 Anshan 2.7 14.3
7 Farragut 2.8 15.1
8 Ernst Gaede 2.9 13.0

Tier 7 Battleships Detectability after firing Max gun range**

inside the smoke (km) (km)
 Detectability after firing Max gun range**
Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Scharnhorst 11.7 19.9
2 King George V 12.6 18.2
3 Gneisenau 14.3 19.6
4 Nelson 14.8 18.2
5 Hood 14.9 18.6
6 Colorado 16.2 18.8
7 Nagato 16.7 20.5

Tier 7 Cruisers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Atlanta 4.6 13.3
2 Flint* 4.6 13.3
3 Belfast* 5.3 15.4
4 Fiji* 5.4 15.4
5 Shchors 6.7 16.8
6 Pensacola 7.3 15.7
7 Myoko 7.6 15.6
8 Indianapolis 8.2 16.9
9 Algrie 8.2 17.9
10 Yorck 8.3 17.3

Tier 7 Destroyers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Shiratsuyu 2.5 13.2
2 Akatsuki 2.6 12.4
3 Sims 2.8 15.5
4 Byskawica 2.8 14.4
5 Leberecht Maass 2.9 13.0
6 Leningrad 2.9 13.9
7 Mahan 3.0 14.0
8 Minsk 3.0 14.6

Tier 8 Battleships Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Monarch 13.6 18.2
2 North Carolina 15.1 23.3
3 Tirpitz 15.1 21.5
4 Bismarck 15.1 21.1
5 Alabama 15.6 21.1
 6 Amagi 16.9 19.9
7 Kii 17.5 19.4

Tier 8 Cruisers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Edinburgh* 5.5 15.4
2 Atago 6.7 15.6
3 Chapayev 6.7 17.3
4 Mogami 6.8 15.7
5 New Orleans 7.1 16.2
6 Mikhail Kutuzov* 7.7 19.1
7 Charles Martel 8.0 17.6
8 Admiral Hipper 8.5 17.7
9 Prinz Eugen 9.1 17.5

Tier 8 Destroyers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Akizuki 2.4 15.0
2 Kagero 2.6 11.3
3 HSF Harekaze 2.6 11.3
4 Benson 2.8 13.9
5 Loyang 2.8 13.9
6 Ognevoi 3.0 14.4
7 Z-23 3.4 13.0
8 Kiev 3.5 14.7

Tier 9 Battleships Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Lion 14.8 20.7
2 Iowa 15.6 23.4
3 Missouri 15.6 23.4
4 Friedrich der Groe 16.8 20.3
5 Izumo 19.2 21.7

Tier 9 Cruisers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Neptune* 6.6 16.5
2 Dmitri Donskoi 7.0 17.8
3 Ibuki 7.2 16.5
4 Baltimore 7.2 15.8
 5 Roon 8.7 17.8
6 Saint-Louis 9.1 18.3

Tier 9 Destroyers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Ygumo 2.6 14.5
2 Fletcher 2.8 15.5
3 Black 2.8 15.4
4 Z-46 2.8 13.2
5 Udaloi 3.3 14.6
6 Tashkent 3.7 15.2

Tier 10 Battleships Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Conqueror 16.7 24.3
2 Montana 17.4 23.7
3 Groer Kurfrst 17.8 20.6
4 Yamato 19.3 26.6

Tier 10 Cruisers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Minotaur* 5.4 15.8
2 Zao 7.2 16.2
3 Des Moines 8.2 15.8
4 Hindenburg 10.2 17.8
5 Henri IV 11.5 19.1
6 Moskva 12.7 19.4

Tier 10 Destroyers Detectability after firing Max gun range**

Rank Ship inside the smoke (km) (km)
1 Shimakaze 2.8 13.6
2 Gearing 2.8 13.3
3 Z-52 2.9 14.5
4 Grozovoi 2.9 13.2
5 Khabarovsk 4.1 13.5

Conclusion :
All Destroyers and Cruisers still have better concealment even firing from inside the smoke if compared to their own
Destroyers and Cruisers aren't too harmed by this smoke nerf. Meanwhile almost all Battleships have worse concea
the smoke if compared to their own normal concealment, except Scharnhorst Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya and Knig,
that's most harmed by this nerf.
All Destroyers and Cruisers still have better concealment even firing from inside the smoke if compared to their own
Destroyers and Cruisers aren't too harmed by this smoke nerf. Meanwhile almost all Battleships have worse concea
the smoke if compared to their own normal concealment, except Scharnhorst Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya and Knig,
that's most harmed by this nerf.

Let's not be SALT by listing everything to understand this game better.

Best regards, by ZdravstvuyteKomandir27
 Smoke After 0.6.12 Update

hout range upgrade

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
6.3 11.4
5.3 12.2
4.2 12.5
4.0 13.4
2.4 13.4
7.0 13.5

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
8.2 9.8
10.5 10.6
8.7 10.8
8.2 11.2
7.4 11.7
7.0 10.4
8.3 11.5
7.0 11.5
8.3 12.1

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
8.5 5.4
8.2 5.4
8.5 5.4
10.6 6.1
10.6 5.8
8.5 5.7
11.6 6.1
 9.6 6.8

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
3.8 11.9
3.5 12.0
3.3 11.9
4.0 12.0
4.0 11.6
4.0 14.1
3.9 14.1
4.5 15.8

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
8.3 8.6
8.6 8.8
8.2 10.3
10.4 10.8
10.0 11.2
7.9 11.4
9.2 11.4
9.5 11.4
8.1 10.3
8.4 11.2
6.5 11.2

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
9.8 6.0
10.5 5.8
11.2 6.1
8.2 6.1
11.6 6.1
11.6 6.3
12.3 6.6
10.1 6.6

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)
smoke window (km)
8.2 13.1
5.6 12.2
5.3 13.1
3.4 12.8
3.7 13.5
2.6 14.0
3.8 14.3

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
8.7 9.4
8.7 9.4
10.1 8.7
10.0 9.8
10.1 11.4
8.4 10.9
8.0 11.2
8.7 10.8
9.7 11.8
9.0 11.8

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
10.7 5.8
9.8 6.4
12.7 6.6
11.6 6.8
10.1 6.8
11.0 6.6
11.0 6.9
11.6 6.8

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
4.6 10.9
8.2 11.8
6.4 12.3
6.0 12.3
5.5 12.2
 3.0 13.0
1.9 13.4

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
9.9 9.0
8.9 9.1
10.6 10.2
8.9 9.3
9.1 9.1
11.4 11.1
9.6 10.5
9.2 10.9
8.4 11.5

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
12.6 5.9
8.7 5.4
8.7 5.4
11.1 5.8
11.1 5.8
11.4 6.1
9.6 6.2
11.2 7.1

Stealth firing inside

Normal concealment*** (km)
smoke window (km)
5.9 11.5
7.8 12.2
7.8 12.2
3.5 13.0
2.5 14.5

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
9.9 10.1
10.8 12.3
9.3 9.7
8.6 9.7
 9.1 11.1
9.2 11.5

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
11.9 5.5
12.7 5.8
12.6 5.8
10.4 5.9
11.3 7.2
11.5 7.4

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
7.6 11.8
6.3 13.4
2.8 13.6
7.3 13.5

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
10.4 8.9
9.0 9.7
7.6 10.6
7.6 12.3
7.6 12.7
6.7 13.8

Stealth firing inside Normal concealment*** (km)

smoke window (km)
10.8 5.9
10.5 5.9
11.6 6.1
10.3 6.0
9.4 7.9

the smoke if compared to their own normal concealment, so all

st all Battleships have worse concealment when firing from inside
Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya and Knig, so Battleships are the class
understand this game better.
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