Rock Around the Clock

Posted on April 29, 2015by malagabay

I greatly admire George Dodwell’s dogged [but doomed] determination to inform

mainstream astronomy that Simon Newcomb’s Formula for the Obliquity of the
Eclipticwas flawed because it couldn’t be reconciled with the observational data dating
back to 1,100 B.C.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axial_tilt
However, Dodwell’s mainstream approach placed him in a no-win Catch-22 situation
regarding the Temple of Amen-Ra in Karnak.
Academic etiquette obliged Dodwell to use the mainstream temple date to create his
formula
BUT
The temple alignment could only be dated once Dodwell had established his obliquity
formula.
Catch-22 is a satirical novel by the American author Joseph Heller.
…
The phrase “Catch-22” has since entered the English language, referring to a type
of unsolvable logic puzzle.
…
In the book, Catch-22 is a military rule typifying bureaucratic operation and
reasoning.
The rule is never explicitly stated, but the principal example in the book fits the
definition above:

If one is crazy, one can be discharged from the army.

But one has to apply for the discharge, and applying demonstrates that one is not
crazy.

As a result, one will not be discharged.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch_22

The Obliquity of the Ecliptic – George F. Dodwell

http://www.setterfield.org/Dodwell_Manuscript_1.html
Given this no-win Catch-22 situation Dodwell should [in my view] have simply excluded
the Temple of Amen-Ra data from his formulations and then independently dated the
temple.
Excluding the Temple of Amen-Ra data produces a gentler Obliquity Curve with a
R2 value of 0.97.

Examining the resulting Obliquity Curve it’s visually evident that there are two
significant data gaps in the first millennium data.
These anomalous data gaps suggest that the Earth slides and occasionally
[catastrophically] bumps along the statistical Obliquity Curve i.e. Axial Tilt transitions
aren’t always smooth.
The curiously short middle data group [shown in orange] covers a 109 year period of
observations from China.

There is a strong possibility that this middle group has been incorrectly dated and given
the volatility of the data it’s possible this middle data group is a continuation of
the earlygroup [shown in pink].
However, at this stage in the analysis let’s simply accept all the observational data at
face value [warts and all] as the best observational data regarding obliquity that
humanity has managed to accumulate in [roughly] the last 3,000 years.
No added alignments – no interpreted theories – no speculation – just observational
data.

Now let’s statistically extrapolate using a 3rd order polynomial trend line in Excel.

The data unequivocally suggests the Earth had an Axial Tilt of -90 degrees [nearly]
20,000 years ago and will transition to an Axial Tilt of +90 degrees in [roughly] the next
14,500 years.

That’s the observational data, the whole observational data and nothing but the
observational data.

However, there are numerous theories regarding the curious data gaps in the 1st
millennium and the most radical of these is the proposal by Gunnar Heinsohn that the
historical narrative of the 1st millennium has been padded out with 700 years worth of
duplicated and jumbled storylines.

Therefore, as a worse case scenario, lets run with Gunnar Heinsohn’s radical proposal
and remove 690 years from the 1st millennium [including the dubiously dated data from
China] so that the early and late data groups [pink and green grouping above] join at
139 A.D.

The overall pattern is the same but the timeline is much shorter.

Perhaps the most striking aspect of this worse case scenario [based upon the theories of
Gunnar Heinsohn] is that its provides a drastically different data driven interpretation
for the Younger Dryas stadial “between 10,800 and 9500 BC” and a radically different
insight into what exactly was the Last Ice Age that “ended about 10,000 years ago”.
The Younger Dryas stadial, also referred to as the Big Freeze, was a 1,300 (± 70) year
period of cold climatic conditions and drought which occurred between approximately
12,800 and 11,500 years BP (between 10,800 and 9500 BC).
The cause of the Younger Dryas stadial is an issue of ongoing debate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas
The earth is currently in an interglacial, and the last glacial period ended about
10,000 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age
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7 Responses to Rock Around the Clock

1. Louis Hissink says:

April 29, 2015 at 00:32

One also needs to factor in the Greek dark ages ~ bronze age – Heinsohn drastically
shortened that history as well, and which thus places the Pleistocene event very close to
the Roman era termination, if not its actually cause.
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o malagabay says:
April 29, 2015 at 02:14

I think we [literally] need to do some more digging to see how many catastrophes have
occurred during the Holocene [assuming, of course, that the Holocene isn’t
another Asinine Academic Illusion]
Heinsohn’s thesis rests on stratigraphical evidence that Lyn E. Rose wrote in Pillars of
The Past, p. 275,276:

“What I would call the ruthlessness of Heinsohn’s method lies in its almost exclusively
stratigraphical approach. If something does not fit the stratigraphical evidence then it
cannot be true; if it myth, fiction, poetry, error, or even fraud.
Heinsohn insists that no matter what the documents and the monuments may ‘say’,
ancient civilisations reveal their existence — and also their sequence — in the ‘strata’
that they have left behind. The physical evidence, be it only debris, tends to lie ‘above’
the layers of any earlier peoples and ‘below’ the layers of any later peoples. Though
technically the word stratigraphy means writing ‘about’ strata, one could say that in a
sense history itself is already “written” ‘in’ the strata. Accordingly, Heinsohn wants to
reconstruct ancient history from the ground up (almost literally!).

For better or worse, Heinsohn’s method does remain ruthlessly stratigraphical, and is
largely non-literary. Ancient texts and documents (Manethon and the various king-
lists, for example) are not allowed to intrude into the process. Any literary evidence
‘must’ accord with the underlying strata, or else it is to be disbelieved.

https://lhcrazyworld.wordpress.com/2015/04/26/holocene-heresy/
The Camp Century ice core suggests the last catastrophe was a BIG one for Greenland.

https://malagabay.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/the-great-greenland-snow-job-08-
the-delta-18o-dating-debacle/
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2. craigm350 says:
April 29, 2015 at 20:41

Academic etiquette obliged Dodwell to use the mainstream temple date to create his
formula
Dodwell’s approach would also have been restricted also by the prevailing currents on
Civilisation. I recall a programme on the BBC ~15 years ago regarding Graham
Hancock’s and Robert Buval’s theories based upon Robert Shock’s geological work,
which entailed a mainstream academia flak attack which looks incredibly hard headed
now.

Back in the early 1990s, when I first suggested that the Great Sphinx was much older
than generally believed at the time, I was challenged by Egyptologists who asked,
“Where is the evidence of that earlier civilization?” that could have built the Sphinx.
[they kept this up in the late 1990’s too.] They were sure that sophisticated culture,
what we call civilization, did not exist prior to about 3000 or 4000 B.C. Now, however,
there is clear evidence of high culture dating back over 10,000 years ago [9600 CBE],
at a site in Turkey known as Göbekli Tepe. A major mystery has been why these early
glimmerings of civilization and high culture disappeared, only to reemerge thousands
of years later.

http://www.robertschoch.com/sphinxcontent.html
Whilst much remains in the air with prevailing assumptions of civilisation and curve
fitting (never mind the ‘what is now was forever’ assumption) the questions I have seen
raised are too often glossed over with the Egyptologists assumptive approach.

I wonder had Dodwell had this information at hand how (or if) it would have affected
the outcome of his studies?

As an aside, I have visited a few museums, since you have raised questions, where I saw
‘Anglo-Saxon’ tablets. Having also read the Gunnar H posts over at q-mag.org I must say
they logically and visually follow the Roman period. A ~700 yr gap is proposed but it
doesn’t look like it when you see the tablets from these periods. They struck me as of ‘the
same cloth’ – and I was being skeptical. So little change yet everything else I saw showed
progression. Assumptions!
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3. Louis Hissink says:

April 30, 2015 at 08:29

The expansion of the geological timescale was achieved by Charles Lyell, so it is his work
that needs to be first examined. All else is thus dated from these initial assumptions of
Lyell, and his cherry picking.
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4. oldbrew says:
May 5, 2015 at 11:31

FYI: May 1st – George Dodwell’s name keeps cropping up recently, on the Internet…
http://www.sis-group.org.uk/news/george-dodwell.htm