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So I am Theravada Buddhists, and recently I went to meditation center for Tibetan Buddhists (The

diamond way which is westernized form of Kagyu).


When I was in this meditation center, couple of guys started explaining the Tibetan form of Buddhism,
and for some reason we went into this weird territory of Buddhism, and the language and philosophy
was just a copy of Hinduism.

Don't misunderstand me, but in Theravada Buddhism, we have doctrine of anatman (there is no
Atman); furthermore, we have doctrine of two truths which state that on one level we have this
sensual world, but in deeper reality there is only emptiness because everything is continuously
changing, and nothing is eternal or unchanging.

However, the claimed that in Tibetan Buddhism, the self/mind is eternal and non-changing (like in
Hinduism, there is eternal atman); furthermore, they argue that according to Tibetan Buddhism there
are two truths, but they are referring to the idea that on one level there is the sensual world, but in
deeper reality there is the "universal self/mind which is everywhere and in everything" which is eternal
and non-changing (like in Hinduism, there is eternal brahman). Furthermore, they continued that in
order to achieve enlightenment the self/mind has to reunite with the universal self/mind (this concept
is in Hinduism, the atman has to reunite or realize brahman).

What tha hell are they talking about? I have never heard this kind of ideology/philosophy in Buddhism
(Theravada and Mahayana), but only in Hinduism.
They did not use the words atman or brahman, but they were using words such as "eternal and
unchanging mind/self" and "eternal and unchanging universal mind/self which is everywhere and in
everything".

Does anyone of you know what they are talking about? Is this actually Tibetan Buddhism?
Is it possible that they have misunderstood some concepts in Tibetan Buddhism? If so which concepts
they have misunderstood, and what they were trying to refer to by saying "eternal and unchanging
mind/self", "eternal and unchanging universal mind/self which is everywhere and in everything" and "in
order to achieve enlightenment the self/mind has to reunite with the universal self/mind"?

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