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02/05/2017 07:38 AM Eidsberg Municipality Family Center (FAX) 096 702 216 P.002 / 005

Childcare in inner Østfold

Mayor Voldensvei 1

1850 Mysen Except public, cf. off.lov §5a

Phone: 91 38 92 93 (69 70 20 00) Date: 02.05.2017

The child welfare guard in inner Østfold serves the municipalities of Aremark, Askim, Eidsberg, Hobøl, Marker,
Rakkestad, Skiptvedt. Spydeberg, and Trøgstad. The babysitter is an emergency guard to assist
children / families at family conflicts and when children are without care.

Report
BVV Nr .: 107/0031
Report No .: 1
Case concerns: Substance - parents
The child's name: XXXX XXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX
Date of Birth: 00.00.00 00000
Address: Lyserenveien 532
1820 Spydeberg
Telephone:

The report also applies to the following siblings:

The child's name: XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX


Date of Birth: 00.00.00
Address: Lyserenveien 532
1820 Spydeberg

Guardians name: XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXX Øystein AMUNDSEN

_______________________________________________________________________________

The babysitter came into contact with the case by contacting: Public bodies
Time Request: 01.05.2017 / 10:45

Below are comments from Father Øystein Amundsen to the child welfare guard in Indre Østfold
presentation, conduct, and to their minutes of their performance of their duties as public
officials 01.05.2017. My comments will be red.
The babysitter was contacted by the older Østfold Crisis Center. They report that a mother with two children, 6
and 17 years old, have sought out the Crisis Center for advice and assistance to move from father.
Mother and father have one common child of 6 years, and mother has two special litter children of 17 and 19 years. The oldest child is
not with. Mother is Thai.
Daughter 17 and mother have described that dad drinks daily. He is ugly in the mouth against them, can strike
the table, throwing things and screaming loudly when he gets angry. Dad says he drinks because of his family.

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The Crisis Center describes how it seems that Dad practices mental violence and controls the family. The
conveying that dad drives a car, despite drinking. They tell that dad has turned around the clock, and is
awake most of the night. They convey that father refuses separation. They say they have lived in this
for a long time, and now wants to get away. The crisis center is worried because the mother intends to go home with the children
Today.

My oldest stepdaughter, XXXXXXX XXXXXXXX, is 18 years old. It is not correct that I drink daily.
It is not correct that I "am ugly in my mouth against them" and "can hit the table, throw things, and scream
loud when .. [I] .. get angry. "I've never said I drink because of family. It's on
It is clear that it is the anonymous staff at the crisis center who have been leading the place instead
for investigative and counseling, and claimed psychological violence and control of the family above a mother
with limited Norwegian knowledge and an immature girl of 17 years who has no understanding of which
the consequences her claims can have. It is not true that I have driven a car in the affected state, however
it may have smelled beer after drinking alcohol-free beer. It's not right that I've turned around the clock.
To my knowledge, it is not possible in Norway at this time to refuse separation so this point appears
really enigmatic. I have advised against sexual intercourse as a result of actual economic and social situation,
then most for the sake of children's welfare.

The babysitter discusses the matter and, on the basis of the report, considers it worrying that
mother takes the children home again, based on the concerns that have emerged.
The babysitter assesses that there is a high likelihood that the father has been drinking and can stay today
angry, especially as mom and kids try to leave him.
The babysitter calls back to the Crisis Center to get them to encourage their mother to stay one night at
the center, so that local child welfare services are connected tomorrow and can assist the family.

Already here it seems that the babysitter has come to a conclusion based on a one-sided
presentation and perception of the case. There is, therefore, reason to assume that the babysitter's bail
opinion at this time was the leading factor in what happened on 01.05.2017.

After a little while, her daughter calls the 17-year guard. Mom sits next to me and listens to the conversation. Tender
speaks little norwegian, so her daughter speaks for her.
She announces that they would like to move out, and are unable to stay home. At the same time, they will not move out
Today. They have plans to travel on a birthday and don't expect to be home until tonight. They wish
that BVV will be connected tomorrow for a meeting. They convey that it is not as serious as it sounds,
and that Dad doesn't beat them. In addition, they are concerned about the smallest girl who will be with her father as well.
BVV says several times during the conversation that we consider it best for them in this situation
will be staying at the crisis center tomorrow, but they do not want this. They convey that they are afraid
that the smallest girl should be deprived of them by BVV. BVV repeatedly tries to say that we do not want it,
but that mother must make the right choices to shield the children.
BVV considers that we need to go out and talk to them at the shelter to prevent them from going home
today, and convey the grave concern to mother. BVV feels that the 17 year old is very busy
of themselves, and that it is important to talk directly to mother.

It is not fair that children are used as interpreters for guardians in Norway. It is also important to be aware
that a 17-year-old
perception may It
of the case. then havea conveyed
seems his own
misconception wishes
"that BVVand
willdreams insteadtomorrow
be connected of conveying
for ahis mother's
meeting".
I would call the wording that BVV does not want to take the smallest girl from them a leading and direct
threat of what will happen if mother does not follow BVV's instructions .; this on failing
basis. I would think that BVV maps out normal behavior from a 17 year old when they choose to
characterize XXXXXXX as "very concerned with themselves".

BVV talks to mother alone, with telephone interpreter. Mother speaks some Norwegian, but she is uncertain

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what she understands and doesn't.


BVV reviews the background of why we have arrived, and repeats the information we received. Tender
confirms this.
She says he hasn't beaten them, but he doesn't understand her when he's drunk. She is experiencing
that she lives with mental stress and pressure from her father.
BVV informs the mother that psychological violence is also violence and as serious as other violence. Mother says that
the smallest girl wants both of her parents, and she hopes he might get better if he gets some
time. She wants to move for herself with the children.
BVV is clear with mother that the home situation is not good for the children.
Mother and children want to move to Ås, as they work here in Ski / Ås. The crisis center has checked that it is not
opportunity for them to get to the crisis center in Ås today, but possibly on Tuesday. BVV encourages
Therefore, the mother to stay so that they can receive further help tomorrow. Mother becomes concerned with the oldest child
and wonders if she might be able to join her. BVV confirms this. Mother says the 17 year old has
graduation tomorrow, and it will be difficult for her to stay. She then becomes stressed and unconcentrated.
Mother says she will not move out of the house until they have found a new place.
BVV tells mother that if she chooses to go home today, BVV must be present. In addition, then
the police to assist. This is fine for mom, but she says at first that it is not necessary and
that it will be offensive to dad. Mom doesn't think he'll drink when we come.
Mother begins to cry, saying that she does not want to lose the children, and that she will be anywhere. Mom is
afraid that father will also have the smallest girl.
BVV informs mother about our mission when we get home, and explains to mother about possible outcomes.
Repeats again that we encourage mother to stay at the shelter. BVV says that mother must choose for herself. She
conveying that father does not know that they are at the shelter.
She tells Dad to drink beer.
The oldest girls are applying for citizenship now.
Mother communicates that things have only gotten worse lately.
Mother decides to go for her birthday, and we agree to meet at home at 19:00.

BVV reiterates and reinforces here the lead above a mother with poor Norwegian knowledge that it
the man "does not understand her" coincides with psychological violence. BVV has at this point
no overview of the children's home situation and cannot comment on whether it is good for the children.
BVV ignores that XXXXXXX will be graduating tomorrow and still advises them to stay at the crisis center.
It is unclear what possible outcomes will be outlined for mother since these are not described. Since
she began to cry and said that she was afraid of losing the children, however, it is reasonable to assume that BVV
again exerted pressure to complete their agenda. Above such a choice, it is not fair to say that mother must
"choose yourself". It is true that the oldest girls are applying for citizenship now, and it is the father who has
assisted them in this process. Mother has only been back on this date since 20.04.2017, after she
went on 06.02.2017 to assist his mother who was dying, so it has "gotten worse lately"
must be due to BVV's misconception.

BVV, police and mother with the children arrive at the same address. Mom has been waiting for us and not gone
in, as we agreed.
We join the kids about the mother in, while the police wait in the background. Dad meets family in the hallway and
Says hi. BVV clearly sees from a distance that he is drunk.
The first impression of the entrance is chaotic. There is stuff and mess everywhere, dirty and smells bad. When we
comes into the living room, it is extremely hot Dad has four in the oven, despite this being a warm and nice
day. The stove is overheated, and the mother and the children comment that it is hot and shut the door in
living room. The living room is even more chaotic, messy, dirty.
BVV greets Dad and tells us we want to talk to him. Dad then says he wants to go out and smoke,
as well as talk outside. He appears drunk and snowy. He has very oily hair and is unstable. He is
impulsive and behavior abnormal.
BVV, mother and oldest daughter join father. He first disappears into the outpost for a while. When he

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come back, he says he has the smoke out there so he doesn't smoke that much. BVV
suspect he drank there too, as it took time for him to come out. Dad says he should record
the conversation, that he usually does this in contact with the NAV. He fiddles with a camera, and begins
with him filming the conversation. BVV says that he will not be allowed this and that we will then ask the police
come, if he does not comply. He says he will only record the sound. He's wearing
audio recording throughout the conversation.
BVV provides the background for why we are there. Dad says that is one side of the matter. He conveys
that he has been fighting NAV for 7 years, without getting help, and that is why he is drinking. He says he does
not drink every day, but says he has been drinking 4 pints today. He says it's May 1st and day off,
so it's not too bad.
Dad repeats himself many times during the conversation, and it is NAV that occupies him all the way. He
experience not having been heard by them and given help.

This with intoxication is a misinterpretation of my usual diffuse cognitive symptoms. It's stupid to
It was messy when you guys arrived, but I had cleaned and washed the hallway before I picked up my wife
04/20/2017. I would point out that in the time around 01.05.2017 there were minus degrees at night (I have
checked at yr.no). Since I often froze in the morning, I had lit up in the oven. The oven was not
overheated, but Jøtul 1 is efficient and generates a lot of heat. The youngest child had made a "house"
with chairs the night before. When I woke up, the blankets were thrown into a pile and the chairs set in place. I'm walking
assuming this looked messy before it was cleared, but it is therefore not dangerous for children. When I listen
I cannot agree with the sound recording that I appear snowy. I think Mary-Ann sometimes
The Green Valley appears snowy. So when it comes to oily hair and nausea, I was thinking of doing something
with this until my sister called me 01.05.2017 at 14:13 and notified what was to come
to happen. I do not see that I was impulsive, and I imagine that I had
"abnormal" behavior. This is difficult to have any opinion of because it does not say what is
abnormal in my behavior and because no reference group is stated. Personally, I find it
reasonable to assume that this statement is colored by BVV's dissatisfaction that I would take audio recordings of
meet with them. I was in the outfield, and I cut up and found filters that I use to scroll into
cigarettes; I didn't drink. One must necessarily touch a camera to get it started. Fikling is one
unnecessarily negatively charged expression stained by BVV's dissatisfaction with audio recording. BVV var
already informed that the purpose of the camera was audio recording and not video. BVV threatened
Anyway with picking up the police on the other side of the road if I picked up the sound. The BVV was already
informed that the reason I had to use the camera was that I had not been able to charge mine
Dictaphone. According to the audio recording, I do not say what I say about drinking, but that it happens that I take
me a couple of beers as I work on the issues I describe. I can not see from the sound recording that I
repeating myself as described.

BVV tries several times to convey to father that the children cannot be with him today, and asks
father about what solutions he thinks are best for the children in this situation. Dad starts talking
that it is_important for the children that he does his job, as he has been given the assignment by NAV. He says that
if he can do it, then mother can take care of the children at home. BVV conveys that either he must go out
or mother and children must travel. Dad says then they get to travel, because they are used to traveling. It goes well.
He has to get his job done (he doesn't have a job, but is at AAP).
BVV goes in with mother and the children, to hear with mother what she now thinks. She says that she and
the kids join us. She is clearly upset. She says he is only thinking of himself.
BVV talks to the kids inside. They agree to leave the house. Mom changed that and that
looked like she really understood the seriousness of the situation after talking to dad. Mother and kids pack
things they need for a few days.
Along the way, the oldest girl says they can't find their money. It's mother's money and the girls'
Save Money. They are not where they usually are. BVV goes out to ask dad about this. He says he was a little
prepared, when his sister had informed him that we were coming. He had then removed them and said that he did
had spent a lot of money of his own on his mother lately, saying he wasn't sure how much

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was actually hers. BVV asks for the children's savings. Dad says they are on their accounts. BVV
considering it is not appropriate to talk more with dad about this now.
BVV tells mother what father has said. This upsets Mom and Bama.
They pack their things, and BVV encourages them to bring their passports and chips to online banking. Father
come in and find it out, as he has control of these.

It is clear that BVV has decided that the children cannot be in the same house as their father on May 1st.
According to the audio recording, BVV is very indistinct, but in the end they set the ultimatum that I must go or
so the kids pull. "Mary-Ann Grøndalen: We believe that your children now should not be with
you..that's the question..you say you can be here and you think your wife can go, but then the kids
join me ... we decide. "Besides, I don't say I should work, I say:" work with the imposed
It is strange and striking that BVV agrees to talk to the mother about a decision
they have already taken. I assume that again threats were made that gave the impression that the children could
be placed if mother did not follow BVV's instructions, but I was not present since I became
refused to follow us into our home. What is said about money is not correct. We put together
savings for the kids when I previously helped them create accounts. They've had some cash
lying down, but it is my wife who has an overview of which of the children have the different sums.
I didn't have time to look at this, so I just wasted all the cash. The children are informed that
the money is in good keeping and that they will get these when it is possible to get a overview. They've given me
feedback that it is okay. When it comes to my wife's savings, I discovered that one
A gold chain worth around 30,000 was missing, and it looked like my savings were gone. I
therefore chose to secure me by also clearing away my wife's savings. When it comes to passports so is
it so that they lay with other securities such as part 2 of car license cards. Everyone
the rest of the family had recently been to Thailand and had, of course, been denied access
their passports. It is true that I usually looked after them because the two youths struggled to lose things
like bus cards and training cards and more. Losing such things is stupid, but it is more comprehensive to
obtain new passports. When it comes to chips for online banking, I took care of these even after I almost did
had to complain about discrimination against foreign nationals for our eldest daughter to get this. I
hadn't seen if it worked. My wife has not shown a willingness to get into how to
manages a common economy, and that is why I, according to family practice, have transferred
half of my and half of her income into a joint account. In addition, she has added to me all
tasks in relation to the public sector. That's why I had her piece.

Assessment: BVV considers that father was more intoxicated than he expressed, and most likely
been there for a while. The house was characterized by chaos, mess, dirt and smelled very painful. It was especially painful
in the kitchen. Dad was only concerned with him during his conversation. He spoke incoherently and
repeating himself all the time. It was difficult to get him to answer specific questions.
situation. BVV considers that the house is uninhabitable for children, as it was now. The smell inside can remind
mix of mold and old food. In addition, Dad was so drunk and preoccupied with himself, that BVV
considered that in the aftermath, there would be disturbances and quarrels in the home, if they
stayed there. Dad stayed calm throughout the period BVV was present, while coming indirectly
threats.

Assessment: It is clear that BVV misinterprets diffuse cognitive symptoms as part of intoxication. I
appears on the sound recording as captured, logical and clear. Of course, what I had been before they came
do not comment. The smell in the kitchen came from several days of cooking by stepmother and wife like them
had chosen to leave. First there was cake baking in connection with tile lottery for Ås Basket from
XXXXXXX (17 years). After this, there were a few days of production of spring rolls in connection with
our oldest daughter's Russian bus-dugad (18 years). This had occurred after my wife returned home
20.04.2017 because I cleaned and washed the kitchen the same day that I and XXXXXX picked her up
Gardermoen. According to the audio recording, I am not concerned with myself, but rather concerned with the children. I
can also not see that I spoke incoherently or that I did not answer questions unjustly

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if these were concretized. It is interesting and striking that BVV asked the ultimatum to father to
leaving the house while claiming that "the house is uninhabitable for children." It is clear here that BVV has
a plan and an agenda, and that this was never up to mother and child as BVV claims. I just choose to
emphasize that, according to the audio recording, I am concerned with the children and not myself. I would also like to state
that according to the audio recording, I had said that I had to work on my assigned tasks no matter what
happened further for the sake of the children's overall well-being. I don't see that I came with either
threats or indirect threats.

BVV accompanied the mother and children to the crisis center.

Calls at the crisis center show that they have repeatedly tried to leave him, but that they
never got as far as now. He then denied them. They show gratitude that they now have
got away. They tell that they have been told before that the smallest girl can be placed if
they ask for help and they do not feel well at home. They have been scared. BVV informs mother of her
rights to stop contact with father if she uses her emergency right. BVV supports this and says that
as it is there at home, as well as father drinking, that there should be supervision during contact. Mother becomes very
happy, says she was scared that dad should take care of the girl. BVV asks mother to inform
school early tomorrow morning about her decision and that father should not pick up the girl.

As I said, I am not aware that it is possible to refuse a wife to leave her husband in Norway.
I also don't think this is possible in Thailand, although I haven't studied case law. It sounds
like a vapor from another time.

Here comes the reason why it became turbulent when I picked up XXXXXX at school on 08.05.2017 for
to take her to preschool control at the health station. This is according to incorrect advice from BVV
and could have been avoided if they had fulfilled their duty of guidance towards mother rather than danger
with deceptive guidance that the mother may use emergency rights when the conditions for such do not exist. I was
not aware of this until I got the report from BVV after I purred on the child welfare service in
Spydeberg 09.05.2017. At a meeting on 04.05.2017, they had refused to answer questions related to
contact ban and more. They used bad time as an excuse, but had plenty of time to
Keep talking about other things.

Encourages mother to get help from NAV, crisis center and child welfare. Encourages mother and eldest girl to
Maintaining boundaries and routines for the smallest girl. BVV sees that she was boundless and self-sufficient this spring
contact her today.
Mother and father are informed that local child welfare services will contact them tomorrow.
The case is forwarded to the Child Welfare Service in
Child Welfare Consultant: Veronica Kjølstad Dahlen
Child Welfare Consultant: Mary-Ann Grøndalen
Date 02.05.2017

[Signature Veronica K Dahlen]


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