Engineering Talk

25--April
25 April--2011

UTHM
Universiti Tun Hussein Onn Malaysia

“Route to be M.I.E.M and

Professional Engineer”
Ir Assoc Prof Dr Shuhaimi Mansor
P.Eng MIEM

Committee Member , IEM (Southern Branch)

Sub-Committee , IEM - HQ

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Registration of Professional Engineer
(Requirements)
Only a citizen or a permanent resident of Malaysia can qualify for
registration as a Professional Engineer.

Candidate who applies for registration as a professional Engineer has to

meet the following requirements:

1. Be registered as a Graduate Engineer with BEM; and

2. Have achieved the training requirements of BEM; and

3. Have passed the Professional Assessment Examination (PAE) of BEM or

be elected a Corporate Member of the Institution Of Engineers Malaysia
(IEM); and

4. Have been residing in Malaysia for a period of not less than six
months immediately the
date of application.
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Enquiries
All application enquiries pertaining to registration &
accreditation shall be addressed to:
Registration Department
Board of Engineers Malaysia
Tingkat 17, Ibu Pejabat JKR
Kompleks Kerja Raya Malaysia
Jalan Sultan Salahuddin
50580 Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 03-2691 1011 ext. 7095/7096
03-2696 7095 / 7096
Fax: 03 - 2692 5017

E-mail: application@bem.org.my
Website: http://www.bem.org.my
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 Route to MIEM /
Professional Engineer
ACADEMIC GRADUATE TRAINING PROFESSIONAL
REQUIREMENTS REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS REGISTRATION

Accredited
Engineering BEM Graduate IEM
Professional
Degree Engineer Assessment
Min 3-yrs
(normal route) Examination
relevant work
experiences
IEM Graduate
Member
IEM Corporate
Member
IEM/BEM
Part 1,2,3 BEM
Unrecognized Competency
Completed Assessment
Engineering 60-hrs of PDP
Degree Examination

Recognized
Masters in Continuing
Engineering Professional
Professional
Engineer
Development
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Bukan masalah layak atau tak layak

Sebenarnya ……

Masalah nak atau tak nak

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 Outline

 Introduction
 BEM & IEM – An Overview
 Registration of Graduate Engineers
 Training Requirements for Graduate
Engineers
 Professional Interviews (PI)
 Concluding Remarks

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Common Questions/Statements
 Difference between BEM & IEM ?
 What to prepare/summit?
 Academician … no industrial experiences
 PE ….. Apa tu ?
 Waste of time
 Too late ....
 ……..

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What are the advantages of being PE ?
 promote engineering profession and
professionalism
 service and protecting public (social duty)
 recognition (local and oversea)
 to help other engineers
 promotion
 professional ethics
 title and status
 …..

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 BEM & IEM
An overview

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Understanding Between …
… roles of BEM and IEM

Board of Engineers Malaysia (BEM)

Regulatory body for engineering practices in Malaysia
set-up under the Registration of Engineers Act, 1967. All
engineering practitioner MUST register with BEM within
6-months of practice

Institution of Engineers Malaysia (IEM)

A learned institution for practicing engineers in Malaysia;
networking, technical learning and socializing group

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 BEM
 The Board of Engineers Malaysia (BEM) is a
statutory body constituted under the
Engineers Act (1967). BEM falls within the
ambit of responsibility of the Minister of
Works
 The Board is established for the purpose of
regulating the professional conduct and
practice of registered engineers in order to
safeguard the safety and the interest of the
public
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 - Registration of Engineers Act
- Registration of Engineers Regulations

ENGINEERS ACT 1967

An Act to provide for the registration of
Engineers and for purposes connected
therewith.
‘Only Professional Engineers (PEng) and
Registered Graduate Engineers are
entitled to practice engineering in Malaysia’
All Engineers MUST register with BEM
within 6-months of engineering practice
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 - Registration with BEM

“No person shall employ a person, sole

proprietorship, partnership or body corporate,
other than a registered Engineer or an
Engineering consultancy practice, to perform
professional engineering services”

Section 24A (1), Registration of Engineers Act

1967 (Revised 2002)

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 Only registered
Professional
Engineers with
BEM are entitled
to use the
designation
Ir. (Ingenieur)

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The Institution of Engineers,
Malaysia
(also known as the IEM
IEM))

the Institution is a
Professional Learned Society
formed in 1959
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 Mission and Vision of IEM
 Aims to be the premier professional organization
pivotal to Malaysia achieving Vision 2020
 Promote sound professional engineering practice
 Shall service the needs and interests of its
members and the public
 To promote and advance the science and
profession of all aspects of engineering
 Promotion or attainment of the profession of engineering
 Promote honorable practice, professional etiquette
 Communicate to members information affecting the
profession of engineering

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 Introduction to IEM

Kedah/Perlis
Branch
Terengganu
Penang
Branch
Branch

Perak Eastern
Branch Branch

IEM-HQ Southern
Branch
Negri Sembilan
Branch
Melaka
Branch
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 Introduction to IEM

Miri
Branch

Sarawak
Branch

Sabah
Branch

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 IEM Grades of Membership
CORPORATE NON-CORPORATE
NON-
MEMBER MEMBER
 Honorary Fellows  Graduates
 Fellows  Students
 Members  Associates
 Affiliates
 Incorporated

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 Introduction to IEM
Membership Grades
Fellows Distinguished
700+ Honorary Fellows
1
Members
8,500+ Honorary Fellows
10+

Graduates Students
5,500+ 2,000+

Affiliates Associate
20+ Incorporated 10+
10+
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 Introduction to IEM

IEM membership opens to all

engineering students and graduates

Primary BENEFITS as IEM Member

 Networking amongst engineers
 Technical Talks, Courses and Technical Visits
 Provider of Professional Development Program
(PDP)
 Route to become a Professional Engineer (PE)
 Provider of Continuing Professional Development
(CPD) Program

Web site: www.iem.org.my 21

 Introduction to IEM

IEM Management Structure

COUNCIL

EX-COMM

• Activities SC • Mech Eng TD

STANDING TECHNICAL • Elect Eng TD
GRADUATE
• Q&A SC
COMMITTEE • PPC SC DIVISION • Civil & Struc TD & STUDENT
(8) • E&T SC (16) • Bldg Serv TD (YES)
• Welfare SC • Geotech TD
• Publication SC • Highway & Transp TD
• Pub. Affair SC • Tunneling & U/G TD
• Finance SC • Environmental TD
• Chemical TD
• Agri & Food TD
• Oil, Gas & Mining TD
• Water Res TD
• Proj Mgnt TD
• Eng Education TD
• Prod & Manuf TD
• IT & SIG TD 22
 Effective from
14 February 2006,
Graduate Members of IEM
are also entitled to use the
designation
Engr. (Engineer)
e.g.

Engr. Ahmad bin Yusof Grad.IEM

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Route to MIEM & P.Eng
UNIVERSITY

GRADUATE ENGINEER

MINIMUM STANDARD OF PRACTICAL TRAINING

UPGRADING
PROFESSIONAL INTERVIEW

IEM CORPORATE MEMBER

PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER BEM

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 (New)
Competency
Examination
(Jan2008)

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 REGISTRATION OF
GRADUATE ENGINEERS

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 ENGINEERS ACT (1967)

All engineering graduates MUST

register as
Graduate Engineer
(Jurutera Siswazah)
Siswazah)
with
Board of Engineers (BEM)
upon graduation
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 BEM REGISTRATION AS
GRADUATE ENGINEER
The recognised academic qualification for registration as
a Graduate Engineer with BEM includes the following :

 An engineering degree accredited/recognised by BEM

or;
 Pass in Part I & Part II of the IEM/BEM Graduate
Examination

Branches of engineering
 Candidate will be placed in the branch as stated in his
basic degree certificate.

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 BEM REGISTRATION AS
GRADUATE ENGINEER
Completed BEM Form A shall be submitted together with:

 Copy of Identity Card

 Copy of the degree certificate
 Copy of the transcript of academic record/detail of course
and subjects
 Processing fee

IMPORTANT: Document submitted must be certified

as a true copy by a Professional
Engineer who is registered with BEM

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 IEM GRADUATE MEMBER
APPLICATION

 REGISTERED GRADUATE ENGINEER WITH BEM

 An engineering degree accredited/recognised by

BEM, or

 Pass in Part I & II of the IEM/BEM Graduate

Examination

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TRAINING REQUIREMENTS
FOR
GRADUATE ENGINEERS

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 PRACTICAL TRAINING FOR
GRADUATE ENGINEER

 Be trained under a Professional Engineer

for a period of minimum 3 years (normally
4 to 6 years)

 Experience should be acquired in design

and site besides application of
engineering science and knowledge

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 RECOGNISED TRAINING
Organisation with Graduate Engineer Organisation Without
P.Eng P.Eng

Training
Mentor Selected by IEM
Same Organisation
Same discipline

Use IEM
Log Book - Regularly

Meet Mentor Regularly and

Certification
Certification of
Graduate's Work

Submission to IEM for

Endorserment once a year

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 PROFESSIONAL ACTIVITIES

1. PRACTICING ENGINEERS
- CONSULTING SERVICES
- CONTRACTING SERVICES
- ENGINEERING ASSET MANAGEMENT
- AUTHORITIES
- NATIONAL UTILITY COMPANIES

2. TEACHER IN ENGINEERING

3. RESEARCHER IN ENGINEERING

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 PRACTICING ENGINEER
- CONSULTING SERVICES - CONTRACTING SERVICES -
ENGINEERING ASSET MANAGEMENT – AUTHORITIES -
NATIONAL UTILITY COMPANIES

 Possess a recognised engineering degree

 Approved training

 Trained under a Professional Engineer for a

minimum of 3 years

 Experience should be acquired in design and site

besides application of engineering science and
knowledge
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 MENTOR SCHEME
 Special scheme where IEM helps members
acquire guided experiences

 The candidate required to maintain Log Book

(to be submitted to Mentor regularly and to
IEM annually for endorsement)

 Candidate to have regular meeting with

mentor to get his/her advice or guidance in
his/her work
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 PRACTICAL TRAINING
MENTOR :

 Professional Engineer from the same

organization, or

 P.Eng in any Consulting firm who is aware of

your work to certify your report

 Apply to IEM for a mentor

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 RESPONSIBILITIES OF
MENTOR
1) GUIDANCE TO YOUNG GRADUATES

2) MONITOR PROGRESS OF YOUNG

GRADUATES

3) ASSIST GRADUATES IN THE TRAINING

PROGRAMME

4) REVIEW DOCUMENTATION OF GRADUATES

TO ENSURE ADEQUATE QUALITY
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 LOG BOOK

 To be endorsed by Mentor at
quarterly intervals

 Annually to be endorsed by IEM

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For those who has returned from overseas, the
experience MUST be certified by a P.Eng or its equivalent
of the respective countries and countersigned by a local
PEng (Usually the current employer)

NOTE:
It is the BEM’s requirement that the candidate
should have gained at least one year’s working
experience locally.

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 RECOGNISED TRAINING
Organisation with Graduate Engineer Organisation Without
P.Eng P.Eng

Training
Mentor Selected by IEM
Same Organisation
Same discipline

Use IEM
Log Book - Regularly

Meet Mentor Regularly and

Certification
Certification of
Graduate's Work

Submission to IEM for

Endorserment once a year

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 TEACHER IN
ENGINEERING
 A recognised degree

 Engaged in teaching of approved

engineering degree

 Minimum 1 year teaching in the final 2

years of a degree course

 1 year equivalent practical engineering

experience
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 TEACHER IN ENGINEERING
plus

3 YEARS OF WORKING EXPERIENCES

may include

- APPROVED POST GRADUATE COURSE OR

- ON RESEARCH FOR HIGHER DEGREE OR
- RESEARCH WHILST BEING A TEACHER

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 RESEARCH CANDIDATE

 POSSESS NECESSARY ACADEMIC

QUALIFICATION.
 AT TIME OF APPLICATION, ENGAGED IN
ENGINEERING RESEARCH
 MINIMUM 2 YEARS ENGINEERING RESEARCH
IN RESPONSIBLE POSITION

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 RESEARCH CANDIDATE
PLUS
A) 4 YEARS EXPERIENCE
MAY INCLUDE
- UP TO 1 YEAR APPROVED FULL TIME POST
GRADUATE STUDY
- UP TO 3 YEARS ON RESEARCH FOR HIGHER
DEGREE
- RESEARCH WHILST BEING A TEACHER
OR
B) 3 YEARS PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE
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 MANDATORY TRAINING

Graduates registering with the BEM

after 1 January 2005 are required to
attend Mandatory Courses and undergo
a specified period of Professional
Development Programme (PDP)

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 PDP
Professional Development Programme
(as of 1-1-2005 Registration)

60 Hours

24 Hours Mandatory
8 Hours OSH and Environment
8 Hours Engineering Management
8 Hours Code of Ethics

36 Hours
Courses/Seminars,Talks
in the Engineering Discipline of Candidate

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The PDP takes the form of
attendance and
participation at Seminars,
Workshops and Conference.

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 CPD
Continuing Professional Development

50 Hours
As of 1-1-2006 PE Registration

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 Competency Examination (CE)

New BEM requirement (beginning Jan 2008)

(BEM Letter Ref. BEM/PBL/01 to IEM dated 6 March 2007)

1. For registration as PE on and after 1-1-2008

2. After passing PI or PAE
3. One Paper of 2 hours, 30-40 Objective Questions
(Registration of Engineers Act 1967, Environmental
Regulations, Standards and Codes)
4. IEM to prepare Questions, ACEM to evaluate/vet
5. Details are being finalised

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 PROFESSIONAL INTERVIEW
(P.I.)
or
PROFESSIONAL ASSESSMENT
EXAMINATION (PAE)

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PROFESSIONAL
ENGINEER
What we look for !

 Competent
 Ethical
 Intellectual
 Mature
 Responsible
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 Assume
Responsibilities
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 PROFESSIONAL INTERVIEW
 grasp the application of Engineering
principles

 capacity to accept Professional

Responsibility

 ability to communicate

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 PROFESSIONAL INTERVIEW

 At least 24 years old

 Graduate Member of IEM or Recognised

Degree

 At least 3 years approved experience or 3

years Mentor Scheme

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 DOCUMENTS TO BE
SUBMITTED TO INTERVIEWERS
1. REPORT ON TRAINING & EXPERIENCE
- to be verified and certified
- 1500 to 2000 words

2. TECHNICAL REPORT WITH DRAWINGS AND/OR

OTHER DOCUMENTS
- to be verified and certified
- Log Book (if applicable)
- 3000 to 4000 words
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 DOCUMENTS TO BE
SUBMITTED
1. REPORT ON TRAINING & EXPERIENCE
(2 COPIES)

 Chronological account of position,

experience gained, degree of responsibility,
special problems faced and overcome,
size and cost of projects handled.

 Always state under who the training and

experience are obtained
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 DOCUMENTS TO BE
SUBMITTED
2. TECHNICAL REPORT WITH DRAWINGS
AND/OR OTHER DOCUMENTS (1 COPY)
 4 drawings, detailed design calculations,
specifications, bill of quantities, OR

 Feasibility Study involving functional and economic

comparison of engineering system designs OR

 Comprehensive Report of a major engineering

project OR

 A system design of a major engineering works 59

 DOCUMENTS TO BE
SUBMITTED
2. TECHNICAL REPORT WITH DRAWINGS
AND/OR OTHER DOCUMENTS (2 COPIES,
4000 words)
For Teacher in Engineering:

 Evidence of Research done, design and setting up of

research equipment, Papers published, drawing
illustrations, Relevance of research to engineering,

 Engineering courses and experiments designed and

taught and engineering consultancy works
undertaken.
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 DOCUMENTS TO BE
SUBMITTED
2. TECHNICAL REPORT WITH DRAWINGS
AND/OR OTHER DOCUMENTS (2 COPIES,
4000 words)
For Researcher in Engineering:

 Evidence of Research done, design and setting up of

research equipment, Papers published, drawing
illustrations, Relevance of research to engineering,
and engineering consultancy works undertaken.

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 ORAL INTERVIEW
QUESTIONS
 BASIC ENGINEERING

 TRAINING AND EXPERIENCES

 PROJECT/DRAWING/CALCULATION

 DURATION 30-45 MINUTES

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 TIPS : WHAT
INTERVIEWERS ASK
 WHAT HAS THE CANDIDATE DONE

 WHY HAS HE DONE IT

 DOES HE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT HE HAS DONE

 WHAT ENGINEERING DECISIONS HAS HE MADE

 WHAT INVESTIGATIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS

UNDERTAKEN TO REACH CONCLUSION
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 ESSAYS WRITING
A test of the Candidate’s knowledge of and ability to
Communicate, and to marshal his thoughts and then
express them on paper in a clear and concise manner

SECTION A (1 ½ hours)
- training and experience
- basic engineering

SECTION B (1 ½ hours)
- code of ethics

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 WHAT IS EXPECTED OF ESSAYS
SECTION A

 basic engineering knowledge

 professionalism of candidate
- experience in design works
- experience in site works
- project work

based on the candidate’s technical

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experience.. To answer ONE
experience
 WHAT IS EXPECTED
SECTION B (Ethics)

Candidates are to demonstrate:

 an understanding of the professional code of

ethics and conduct
 his understanding of the ROLE of engineers in
the Society vis-à-vis his professional Code of
Ethics
 he can write and present in a clear and concise
manner
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 PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT
& ESSAY TOPICS
ESSAY QUESTIONS:
 ESSENTIALS OF CODE OF ETHICS
 CONFLICT OF INTEREST/APPLICATION TO CODE
 ROLE OF ENGINEERS IN SOCIETY
 PROJECT MANAGEMENT & ENGINEERING STUDIES

• Currently 15 prepared questions (since

1.1.2001)
• Interviewer will select 2 relevant questions
• Candidate to answer only one question
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 CODE OF ETHICS
(Sample question)
Engineers are increasingly playing a
significant role in the nation’s fast pace
development.

Please suggest how engineers can make

greater contribution with awareness in
safety, health and environment and how
engineers can keep abreast with the
development of technology without confining
to one’s specific roles of disciplines.
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(1.1.2001)
 CODE OF ETHICS
(Sample Question)
Technological and economic efficiencies in
providing services to the public are expected
benefits from the privatisation of public
utilities companies in Malaysia.

Discuss with examples whether technological

benefits of privatisation have been achieved.

(1.1.2001)
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 Route to MIEM /
Professional Engineer
ACADEMIC GRADUATE TRAINING PROFESSIONAL
REQUIREMENTS REGISTRATION REQUIREMENTS REGISTRATION

Accredited
Engineering BEM Graduate IEM
Professional
Degree Engineer Assessment
Min 3-yrs
(normal route) Examination
relevant work
experiences
IEM Graduate
Member
IEM Corporate
Member
IEM/BEM
Part 1,2,3 BEM
Unrecognized Competency
Completed Assessment
Engineering 60-hrs of PDP
Degree Examination

Recognized
Masters in Continuing
Engineering Professional
Professional
Engineer
Development
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 (New)
Competency
Examination
(Jan2008)

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 SUMMARY
 Register as Graduate Engineers with BEM
upon graduation
 Become Graduate Member of IEM
 Undergo a period of training experience for
minimum 3 years:
 Supervised by P.Eng in the same discipline (Mentor)
 Keep systematic record of training (i.e. Log Books, technical
documents, drawings)
 Attend mandatory BEM courses, Professional Development
Programs
 Pass a Professional Interview (Oral & Essay
Written ) and Competency Examination
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IEM (SOUTHERN BRANCH)
 24-B Jalan Abiad
Taman Tebrau Jaya
80400 Johor Bahru
 Tel: 07-331 9705
 Fax: 07-331 9710
 Email:
iemsouthern@gmail.com
 Websites:
www.iem.org.my
www.iemsb.org.my

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 FURTHER INFORMATION

Board of Engineers The Institution of

Malaysia Engineers, Malaysia

 Website:  Website:
www.bem.org.my www.iem.org.my

 Email:  Email:
enquiry@bem.org.my sec@iem.org.my
bem1@jkr.gov.com iemsouthern@gmail.com
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