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Abstract: In this paper the author argues that Jung’s concept of archetype should not be
reduced to an univocal definition. Jung himself proposed many definitions of this concept,
some of them being partially or totally contradictory to others. A univocal and logical way
of thinking can lead us to refute and reject part of those definitions, but a complex way of
thinking, as proposed by Edgar Morin or Roy Bhaskar for example, can allow us to
consider that those apparent contradictions in Jung’s definitions of archetype reflect the
complexity of the psychic reality. The main argument of the author is that Jung was missing
the epistemological concept of emergence (which appeared in science at the time of his
death) and that he tried to express it with the epistemological concepts of his time.
Christian Roesler’s article (JAP, April 2012, 57, 2, pp. 223-46) raises many
questions, not least, it seems to me, in its very title, ‘Are archetypes transmitted
more by culture than biology? Questions arising from conceptualizations of the
archetype’. In fact, the title itself appears to circumscribe the debate around
conceptualizations of the archetype as a transmissible psychic structure. While
Jung certainly often writes about this, it is far from the only way he approaches
the subject. Furthermore, Roesler’s title restricts the debate in another way
which purports that there are only two possible means of transmission, either
biological or cultural, one allegedly being sufficiently independent of the other,
so that one beats the other by virtue of its frequency.
This is all the more surprising since his article rests mainly on the work of
Jean Knox and, to a lesser extent, on that of George Hogenson, for whom the
archetype is a phenomenon emerging out of the biological roots of humankind,
which are formed out of their interactions with the environment: clearly in this
approach it cannot be a question of more of this or less of that, since in neither
case would any emergence of the type described be possible. Where Knox and
Hogenson in their different ways carry on from where Jung left off, reworking
Jung’s conceptualizations in a scientifically empirical fashion in the light of
It is not clear why we should find every one of these archetypes in every human
being given that they cannot be transmitted genetically [. . .] It will then become
clear that we have to depart from Jung’s assumption that it is a biological
phenomenon.
Such an assimilation is all the more surprising given that he goes on to insist on
the importance of the difference between the genotype and the phenotype, a differ-
ence resting on epigenesis, as it is now understood from recent biological studies.
Putting it another way, no one can any longer seriously uphold the view that
genetic transmission can be the only (or a necessary and sufficient) condition for
the biological organization of humankind. Yet does that make the organization
any the less biological for all that? When Christian Roesler states that the structure
of the brain differs from one individual to the next as a function of the baby’s
interaction with his environment, does that mean those structures lose their
biological constitution? Obviously not, any more than Jung’s assertion about
the archetype’s biological nature could be undermined by variations of the kind
just mentioned.
Since Christian Roesler proposes a comparison of brain structures, why not
look into this more closely? Another fact is that all human beings share the same
brain structure and that what is different among them is not the general organiza-
tion of these structures, but their differing development and their ways of (inter-)
relating. For my part, I have not come across anything in Jung’s writings which
would object to our regarding archetypes, along with their interrelations and their
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These representational or a priori structures are, for Jung, transcendent in the sense that Kant uses
the term and not, as Christian Roesler seems to think, some kind of link with a metaphysical reality.
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2
The phase space is a mathematical space where each dimension represents a variable in the
system, in such a way that all states of the system can be represented by any point in it.
3
The Poincaré section differs from a classical section in that the ‘plane’ of the section is not static,
but dynamic. I give en example in Martin-Vallas 2013.
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TRANSLATIONS OF ABSTRACT
Dans cet article, l’auteur soutient que le concept d’archétype de Jung ne devrait pas être
réduit à une définition univoque. Jung lui-même a proposé de nombreuses définitions de
ce concept, certaines étant partiellement ou complètement en contradiction les unes avec
les autres. Une manière de penser univoque et logique peut nous conduire à réfuter et
rejeter une partie de ces définitions, alors qu’une manière de penser complexe, telle que
celle proposée par Edgar Morin ou Roy Bhashkar par exemple, peut nous permettre
de considérer ces apparentes contradictions dans les définitions de l’archétype par Jung
comme reflétant la complexité de la réalité psychique. Le principal argument de l’auteur
est qu’il manquait à Jung le concept épistémologique d’émergence (qui est apparu dans
les sciences à l’époque de sa mort) et qu’il a essayé de l’exprimer avec les concepts
épistémologiques de son temps.
In diesem Beitrag argumentiert der Autor dafür, daß Jungs Archetypenkonzept nicht auf
eine eindeutige Auslegung reduziert werden sollte. Jung selbst schlug viele Definitionen
dieses Konzeptes vor, einige davon in teilweisem oder völligem gegenseitigen Widerspruch.
Eine auf Eindeutigkeit und Logik angelegte Denkweise könnte uns zu Widerlegungen und
Zurückweisungen von Teilen dieser Definitionen führen, während eine komplexe Art des
Denkens, wie sie z.B. von Edgar Morin oder Roy Bhaskar vorgeschlagen wird, es uns
ermöglicht zu sehen, daß jene offensichtlichen Widersprüche in Jungs Definitionen des
Archetypischen die Komplexität der psychischen Realität reflektieren. Das Hauptargument
des Autors richtet sich auf den Umstand des Fehlens eines epistemologischen Konzeptes der
Emergenz bei Jung (welches in der Wissenschaft zur Zeit seines Todes auftauchte) und daß
er versucht habe, dieses mit den epistemologischen Mitteln seiner Zeit zu formulieren.
Gli archetipi vengono trasmessi o sono emergenti? Una risposta a Christian Roesler.In
questo articolo l’autore sostiene che il concetto junghiano di archetipo non dovrebbe essere
ridotto a una definizione univoca. Lo stesso Jung ha proposto molte definizione di tale
concetto, alcune delle quali parzialmente o totalmente in contraddizione con altre. Un
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modo di pensare univoco e logico può portarci a rifiutare e rigettare parte di queste
definizioni, ma un pensiero complesso, come proposto per esempio da Edgard Morin o
Roy Bhaskar può permetterci di considerare che quelle apparenti contraddizioni nelle
definizioni di Jung di archetipo riflettono la complessità della realtà psichica. L’argomento
principale dell’autore è che Jung non prese in considerazione il concetto di emergente ( che
comparve nella ricerca scientifica al tempo della sua morte) e che cercò di esprimerlo con i
concetti epistemologici del suo tempo.
En este trabajo el autor argumenta que el concepto junguiano de arquetipo no debe ser
reducido a una definición unívoca, El propio Jung propuso muchas definiciones para este
concepto, algunas de ellas parcial o totalmente contradictorias a otras. Una forma de
unilateral o lógica de pensar nos puede conducir a rechazar o refutar parte de estas
definiciones, sin embargo un pensamiento complejo como el propuesto por Edgar Morin
o Roy Bhaskar por ejemplo, nos podría permitir considerar esas aparentes contradic-
ciones del concepto junguiano de arquetipo como reflejos de la complejidad de la
realidad psíquica. El argumento más importante del autor se refiere a que Jung no había
tomado en cuenta el concepto epistemológico de la emergencia (el cual surgió al
momento de su muerte) y que el intentó expresarse con los conceptos epistemológicos
de su tiempo.
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