CODY: Hi!

BEN: Hello.
CODY: This is Queeks.
You already know that because you chose to listen to it.
My name is Cody Brantley.
BEN: My name is Ben Palmer.
CODY: Yeah.
How are you, Ben?
BEN: I'm good.
How are you, Cody?
CODY: I'm doing well.
We should probably tell people what this is because they have no reason to know.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: If you could tell from the name, queer and geek, because that's what we are, so we
know a lot about nerd stuff that we don't need to know.
BEN: Yeah, and then we don't know quite as much about the queer stuff --
CODY: Right.
BEN: -- that maybe would be more beneficial for us to know.
CODY: Yeah because we get ostracized.
BEN: Routinely.
CODY: And left on the streets.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: Because of the things that we haven't seen or listen to or read.
Not so much that one.
BEN: Yeah, there’s not a lot of classic gay novels.
CODY: The gays aren’t a reading people.
BEN: Yeah.
Who has the time?
CODY: I'm sure there are, but they're not being talked about.
BEN: Reading gays?
CODY: Yeah.
BEN: Reading Gaynbow. That could be a fun spin-off.
CODY: Oh. Yeah, no, let's start a spin-off.
BEN: Okay, I’ll get the paperwork.
CODY: I think we’ve made enough progress that we can afford a spin-off.
BEN: I think we’re already ready. I meant spin-off of Reading Rainbow, not a spin-off of this.
CODY: Well, it would be both.
BEN: Okay, like a crossover.
CODY: Crossover spin-off, yes.
BEN: Yes, okay. I'm a fan.
CODY: So very recently in our nerd purview (ner-view), Avengers: Endgame is out.
You've seen it twice now, right?
BEN: I have. I’m fresh off that.
CODY: I have only seen it once. I saw it opening night.
But I guess we should say, for anyone who hasn't seen it, that you shouldn't listen to this.
BEN: Yeah, there's gonna be spoilers.
CODY: It is the 22nd movie and final chapter of this act of Marvel movies that's been happening
for the last decade and a bit.
BEN: It’s been dubbed The Infinity Saga, I believe.
CODY: Right, and they've already -- I saw those plans for the Blu-ray set release, which are real
or fake?
BEN: $42,000, I believe, for a box set.
CODY: As it should be, yeah.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: And I do really want it.
BEN: That's not true.
I don't actually know the price.
CODY: It'll probably be close to that because I remember the Phase One box set after the first
Avengers movie came out was very expensive, and I really wanted it.
BEN: Yeah, that was like $200 at least, at first.
CODY: So this one, I'm sure --
BEN: And got a lot more expensive in the aftermarket.
CODY: Speaking of expensive, it has made a lot of money already. It’s been out just over a
week
BEN: How much is money was it?
CODY: Thank you.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: It's $474 million domestically so far, which puts it 15th all time for total domestic release,
so not just opening week.
BEN: Oy.
CODY: So it's gonna keep shattering those records, I would imagine, because it’s exciting.
There's never really been a movie like this before.
BEN: No.
I mean, imagine if Titanic had an entire cinematic universe of just all the other boats that sank.
CODY: I think that's what they should do next. Abandon all the superhero stuff.
BEN: The boat cinematic universe.
CODY: Yes.
Is it all just about boats?
BEN: There’s that, the Lusitania.
CODY: Okay, I see.
BEN: That boat that sank in the Chicago River, and all those people died.
CODY: You're gonna -- we're gonna have to dress this early on.
Ben is from Chicago.
BEN: I am?
CODY: You can’t just bring up Chicago facts at me because I’m going to know not many of
them.
BEN: You don't know about that boat that sank?
CODY: I don't know about that.
BEN: I don’t either.
CODY: I know about that fire that happened.
BEN: There was a fire, thanks to Mrs O'Leary.
CODY: Yeah.
BEN: Although that was just like anti-Irish propaganda.
CODY: We’re going to have to derail you from talking about Chicago right now because we
don't have six hours for you to get into this before we even talk about anything else we have
planned.
BEN: I will concede.
CODY: So if you have not seen Endgame yet, stop listening and go watch it.
BEN: Yes, go away.
CODY: If you haven't seen any of the other Marvel movies before, watch Iron Man from 2008,
and then watch this movie. Don't watch any of the others.
BEN: Really? You don’t think you need to see any of the others?
CODY: No, I think you do need to see the other ones, but I want to see someone just see those
two. That's my dream.
BEN: Just the beginning and the end.
CODY: Right.
To say, like, this was a fun movie, and then alright, now you have to see the sequel.
BEN: Oh, what’s the most recent one?
CODY: I'm desperate to see that happen to someone. We have a mutual friend whose girlfriend
hadn't seen any of them, and I begged him to do that to her, and he didn't so --
BEN: That's very disappointing.
CODY: I was unhappy. He also made her watch Thor: The Dark World, the second one, which
is easily the worst movie of the 22.
BEN: It is, but it's also important to the plot.
CODY: Oh, it is important.
BEN: Although Thor does do a good job of summarizing it in the movie, even though everyone
in the movie is not a fan of hearing him talk about it, which is a reference.
CODY: Right. So let’s talk about the movie itself.
What did you think?
Overall thoughts about it?
BEN: So I loved it both times. The first time I saw it, it was opening night, which kind of has its
own energy to it where everyone’s screaming and clapping and cheering, which is like on one
level fun because you feel like you're part of this cool thing, and on another level it's like, I just
want to watch this movie, please.
I'm a big fan of like, the movie theater is a place of respect.
Please be quiet.
CODY: See, I guess I am -- I do understand that, and sometimes it does get on my nerves, but I
do also like theater screenings as an event and as a group activity because I think that's what
you miss watching movies at home or something.
BEN: That’s true.
CODY: You don’t get this collective experience because I do like that. And I think it does
depend on the number of assholes in the particular theater you're sitting in.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: Because sometimes, you know, they can ruin it.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: The one I was with was pretty good. You know, there's clapping and cheering and
aahing and oohing, but no one was doing anything dumb.
BEN: No one was hissing whenever Thanos showed up on the screen?
CODY: That I would have appreciated. There was no one making jokes, like screaming jokes at
the screen. I don't like when people do that.
BEN: Oh, yeah no.
CODY: Or just try and draw attention to themselves. Those are those people are unsavory, and
I want nothing to do with them.
BEN: They're the real stars.
CODY: That's right. So this came out just about a month and change after the previous movie,
Captain Marvel.
BEN: Captain Marvel, yes.
CODY: So I thought that was interesting how they would include someone in a movie that
definitely a lot of the audience would have seen the movie already, but not all of them because
not everyone is going to the movies that often. Some people only go once or twice a year.
BEN: Right.
CODY: So being able to include her without making it too reliant on having seen that movie,
how do you think they pulled that off? Because I thought it was really well done. You know, she
sort of shows up, wrecks shit immediately because she’s super powerful --
BEN: Yes.
CODY: -- and then is sort of on the back burner, just from our perspective, but also doing a lot
because she's handling a lot of galactic issues that we aren’t seeing.
BEN: For sure. I mean, she does make the point in the movie that there are thousands of other
planets in the universe that are going through the exact same thing that Earth is going through,
and those planets don't necessarily have the Avengers.
CODY: Right.
BEN: So she's got a lot of territory to cover, so I think that reasoning makes sense to me. I do
know that, like, logistically it was mostly a thing of the fact that they filmed her scenes in
Endgame before they filmed her scenes in Captain Marvel, and they just didn't, they had no
idea what -- I mean, they did. You know, they’d written it and everything, but it was just not -- it
wasn't out yet. They didn’t know how people would react to it. Same with Black Panther. Black
Panther hadn't come out yet when they were filming --
CODY: Infinity War?
BEN: Yeah, Infinity War and then Endgame back to back. it hadn’t come out yet.
CODY: See, I didn't realize it at the filming for Endgame before that.
I knew that for Infinity War.
BEN: I believe that they did.
CODY: Interesting.
BEN: It might have just been Infinity War. I could be a liar.
CODY: I definitely think they wouldn't want to bog it down because they’ve always talked about
before, in interviews and things, about not wanting to close off viewers from not having seen
things, like how there are interactions with Agents of SHIELD.
BEN: Or lack thereof.
CODY: Right. They’re definitely there, but it's minimal because they don't want someone to say,
oh, I can't go see the movie because I haven’t watched 20, 30 hours this TV show.
BEN: Right.
CODY: Which is coming back soon, and I’m very excited.
BEN: Yeah, like two weeks? One week?
CODY: I think next week, yeah. So I'm sure we'll talk about it then. Great show.
BEN: Yes. I need to get TV.
CODY: It's fantastic.
BEN: TV?
CODY: TV, yep. If you haven't heard of television, well boy, let me tell you.
BEN: Oh boy.
CODY: It's incredible.
BEN: What a hoot.
CODY: So other than Captain Marvel, which I do think they utilized pretty well --
BEN: Yeah.
CODY: This was really the first big foray into time travel stories for the cinematic universe,
which is of course a huge deal in the comics because comic plot lines are absurd in every way.
BEN: Very loopy, many parallel universes, sometimes specifically created because of time
travel shenanigans.
CODY: Right.
BEN: So I'm glad that they started to acknowledge that this is a thing that can happen.
CODY: And it's definitely a tricky thing for something that's already the most complicated
cinematic plot ever because they’ve never had a movie come out that has its reliance based on
20 other movies.
BEN: Right.
CODY: I thought they handled it brilliantly.
BEN: Oh, absolutely.
CODY: I was in love with the way that they approached time travel in this because they made it
not super complicated.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: And they took their time making sure to, you know, not just saying, oh, we can time
travel now.
BEN: Right.
CODY: And also not, you know, getting too in the weeds about all of the implications of it, but
then doing some really cool things. Going back to be able to see the previous movies, previous
iterations of the characters. That was, I think, one of my favorite things about the movie, was the
way that they handled the time travel story.
BEN: Well, I definitely think that what they said going into this movie was that it was going to be
kind of an homage -- not an homage, but like an ode to what had come before.
CODY: Like a reflection.
BEN: Yeah, a reflection.
And time travel makes perfect sense to do that, and the fact that they're revisiting kind of the
greatest hits, and then also Thor: The Dark World, just made it kind of like a fun -- it was nice. It
was nice to revisit those. I mean, I had been planning on rewatching them anyway, but it was
just, I don't know. It was like a throwback to a simpler time.
CODY: Right, and it didn't feel hokey to me, or like, you know, like a clip show.
BEN: Right.
CODY: Oh, remember that time? Wistful look, harp sound.
BEN: Although that would've been a fun three hour movie.
Cody That's true.
BEN: Just a harp sound, and like, remember that time this happened? And then just do all of
Captain America.
CODY: Yeah, I agree.
BEN: Just one big flashback.
CODY: And I kind of,even though The Dark World is not the best --
BEN: Right.
CODY: It was kind of cool that they -- I mean, we got to see them go back to The Avengers,
which is the obvious choice, but then The Dark World, which is maybe not the most exciting or
good or entertaining of the movies.
BEN: Right.
CODY: But it still has its relevance in that it’s --
BEN: -- in that it is a movie.
CODY: Right, and that it was still meaningful to the story.
BEN: Well, it introduced the Aether, I guess technically the third on-screen Infinity Stone.
CODY: Right. We had the Time and the Mind.
BEN: Because we were introduced to the Tesseract in Captain America, and the Mind Stone,
which we didn't know was the Mind Stone yet, inside Loki’s scepter.
CODY: Well, some people didn't know was the Mind Stone.
BEN: Did you?
CODY: Oh yeah, but not by my own doing.
BEN: Oh, but like via the online.
CODY: Sure, yeah. Because that was pretty -- people were already looking for the stones
everywhere.
BEN: I do remember that being a thing, yeah.
CODY: So I think -- and definitely just because of its relevance to comic books, I'm always
curious about how close things are, not in plot, but in feel to a comic book, and I think the
Captain America v. Captain America fight scene was the best. That was the most like a page
out of a comic book I think I've seen in any of these movies.
BEN: Yeah.
CODY: I mean, that was fantastic.
BEN: It was extremely entertaining to watch.
CODY: And also I've really loved Captain America in all these movies.
BEN: Yeah, me too.
CODY: And I think this was probably his best, one of his best performances. He was a rock star.
BEN: Oh, 100%. And not just because we got to see his happy ending, which was a long time
coming, but I think partially because of the fact that it was him continuing to be that point of
optimism.
CODY: Right.
BEN: Which, like, is impossible to be when half of the world has been eliminated, and you're not
to blame by any means, but like you were charged with stopping it and didn't.
CODY: And also him having that optimism, but not staying stale. There was some growth.
BEN: Yes, which he had a knack of doing.
CODY: I loved, you know, seeing the definitely more hunky dory version of himself from the past
and being sort of exhausted with him.
BEN: Yes, right.
CODY: I thought that was really funny.
BEN: Yeah, that was good. I mean, the movie was hilarious as well.
CODY: It was, and they always are. Some people -- I've seen sort of complaints about the way
they weave humor into everything. I love it.
BEN: Yes. It fits the form.
CODY: I think it's perfect comic tone. It keeps everything remains super dark and gritty and self
serious. I think it's great. I like the levity. So I did love Captain America. Who do you think --
would you say you have an MVP of the movie? Because there's, you know, a lot of them that
had been snapped in the previous movie that had disappeared and came back.
BEN: Right.
CODY: Didn't get as much screen time, but there are still a ton of characters to deal with here.
BEN: Oh yes.
CODY: Do you think anyone had any particular time in the spotlight?
BEN: I think Scarlet Witch, if I had to pick one character who made possibly the biggest impact
on everything other than, you know, the obvious, Tony Stark for doing a snap that kills
everyone. All the bad guys, at least, and such.
CODY: Right.
BEN: It would definitely be Scarlet Witch, primarily because of the fact that she seemed to do
the most direct damage to Thanos during the battle when nobody else could touch him.
CODY: True.
BEN: Nobody could really get anything done. She was able to not only throw a bunch of shit at
him, but then to single-handedly tear all his armor off, which was incredible.
CODY: Right. Yeah, that was fantastic.
BEN: It literally took him firing his own ships on himself and all of his troops to stop her, and I
think that’s a pretty good sign of how powerful she is.
CODY: It is. I love Scarlet Witch, and I love Elizabeth Olsen.
BEN: Me too.
CODY: I’m really glad that she’s gotten a chance to shine in the past two movies, really.
BEN: I loved her in Infinity War.
CODY: And even in Civil War. I think she’s been really well used, even though she’s not had her
own standalone.
BEN: Although she will have a TV show.
CODY: Right, there is a series coming, a miniseries.
BEN: Which, wondering what that’s going to be. Is it going to take place during the time prior to
Infinity War and after Civil War?
CODY: It is unclear at the moment. I’m not sure. I’m very curious. They’ve said something about
-- I saw something about --
BEN: As a quick note, this is WandaVision, I believe, is the name of the show.
CODY: Right. This is the Scarlet Witch and the Vision, their own six-hour miniseries, that’s
going to be airing on Disney+ when that is released, which I’m very excited about.
BEN: Which I will be having.
CODY: They have a ton of shows set out for that when it comes out.
BEN: Star Wars, Marvel.
CODY: Right. Even just Marvel. They have WandaVision, they have the Hawkeye thing, Winter
Soldier and Falcon, which I think they have said now is going to be about him taking on the
mantle of Captain America.
BEN: Really?
CODY: Which is fascinating.
BEN: Awesome.
CODY: And I love that they made that decision. I really think it was the best choice.
BEN: And the studios did say that they’re going to have the things that are happening in the
shows on Disney+ have an impact that you can feel in the movies, which, I am wondering how
they're gonna tow that line because they really didn't do that before. With Agents of SHIELD and
Agent Carter, which were the two Marvel cinematic universe based TV shows, those -- things
would happen in the shows that reflected what was happening in the movies, and things that
happened in the shows were set up so that you would think that it led directly into the events of
the movie. So, for example, in, what was it? In Age of Ultron there was sort of a running plot that
Agent Coulson was, in Agents of SHIELD, Agent Coulson was working on some secret project
for I guess Nick Fury.
CODY: Yes.
BEN: And it turned out that the secret project was him getting another of the helipads -- no, not
helipad.
CODY: Helicarrier.
BEN: Helicarrier. Yes, getting a helicarrier back. And then that was the same helicarrier that
swept in and saved the day.
CODY: And then it was very intricately tied in the first season with The Winter Soldier.
BEN: Oh, my God.
CODY: Which was really, really well done. But it also, again, you didn't have to watch either to
watch the other.
BEN: Exactly.
CODY: You could watch the show without going to see the movie.
BEN: It was a good movie, and it was a great episode of TV. So either of them would have
stood on their own for sure.
CODY: So I think for me, my MVP would be Nebula in this movie, who I love. That is probably
one of my top 10, maybe top five characters in the MCU.
BEN: Really?
CODY: I really, really love Nebula. And she --
BEN: And not just of the actress, obviously.
CODY: Right. I adore Karen Gillan, as a Doctor Who fan, and just as a fan of hers.
BEN: As Amy Pond.
CODY: She was phenomenal. She was so intricately tied into the plot, and I knew that she
would be because of being Thanos’ daughter. But being able to see her growth, but then still
staying -- like her playing paper football with Tony Stark.
BEN: Yes, to pass time.
CODY: Fantastic. And I really liked the contrast of it because I think easily the MVP from Infinity
War was Gamora.
BEN: Oh, 100%.
CODY: She was. She owned that movie.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: So I think having the focus on them, especially Nebula, but even Gamora, you wouldn't
think from Guardians that she would be the character to like lead the story.
BEN: No.
CODY: But of course, because they're so tied into the whole Thanos lore, it makes sense. So I
really enjoyed that. What about worst-served in this movie? Do you think anyone got short
shrifted? I do. I did like what they did with Thor, but I do think it was a little limiting that he didn't
get to be -- because I think part of the humor initially with him was his self-seriousness as a god.
BEN: Yes, and his obliviousness to the fact that it was ridiculous.
CODY: Right. And I still -- and that sort of changed a little in Ragnarok. He was definitely more
openly comical.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: Which I think was the perfect balance. And this one, I think, maybe tipped a little too far
to just a comic foil, not quite enough of the self seriousness. I don't think we got enough of that.
I still enjoyed it, and I'm not super sold on the fat suit. I mean, it looked good.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: I wouldn't say it looked amazing. But it's hard.
BEN: Yeah. I don’t think fat suit technology has really advanced much.
CODY: Well, I think it's advanced, but I think the limits of making someone like Chris
Hemsworth look fat is a difficult task.
BEN: It's harder than hiding the mustache on Superman. It's just not really possible.
CODY: You're having to add fat. He doesn't really have fat.
BEN: Any fat. So you don't even know where it would be if it was there because you don't have
a reference point.
CODY: Yeah, no. So you know, it’s not like it ruined the movie or anything, but it's hard not to
be like well, he clearly doesn’t look like that.
BEN: Well, that's clearly rubber.
CODY: Yeah. Smart viewer. So the ending.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: Let’s talk about this. We already -- excuse me -- we talked about Captain America a bit.
BEN: You getting choked up?
CODY: Yeah, no.
BEN: I did almost. On second viewing, I almost cried during Captain America’s closing.
CODY: Oh, during Captain America's?
BEN: Yes. I still didn't cry during Iron Man's farewell.
CODY: Well, I didn't. I'm not a crier typically at things. It definitely was emotional. And really I
think it was handled very well.
BEN: It was powerful. And it felt right.
CODY: But it still wasn't saccharine or super sweet because he really you know, he didn't get
these, like, last words while he was dying.
BEN: I don’t think he had any last words.
CODY: No, I think his last words were before the snap.
BEN: Yeah, he snapped, and then he sat down, said nothing, and just died.
CODY: Right, which I just read, funnily, that that line, him saying, “I am Iron Man,” in response
to Thanos saying, “I am inevitable,” that was not in the script originally. They had him saying
nothing before, and then it seemed weird because he's quippy.
BEN: Yes he is.
CODY: And so the editor for the movie suggested that he say “I am Iron Man.”
BEN: Oh.
CODY: So I thought that was pretty interesting.
BEN: That’s really cool.
CODY: Yeah, I mean, I think it was really fitting, given that he's the father of the Marvel
Cinematic Universe.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: And a good -- I think it would have been a little, you know, it would have been nice to
see him get a happy ending. But it would have been weird having him alive, but not part of
what's going on, because he's always been so integral to everything.
BEN: I mean, his company, his technology, his influence in terms of political sway. All of that
you can't overshadow.
CODY: Yeah. So I think it really fit, and he got to do what he needed to do, and sort of everyone
was -- even, you know, Pepper was at peace with it because, you know, how could he not do it?
BEN: Yes, I mean especially given the fact that he had been haunted by visions of what was
coming for years.
CODY: Right.
BEN: Which was partially the plot of Age of Ultron, partially the plot of Iron Man 3, from which
we got that little kid who came back at the end for Tony Stark’s funeral.
CODY: Did you recognize him initially?
BEN: Did not recognize him.
CODY: I did not.
BEN: My first thought was I almost gasped out loud because I was like, this has to be someone
from the future, and then I was like, that wouldn't make any sense. And then of course I googled
it, and it turned out it was the little kid from Iron Man 3 he sort of mentored.
CODY: And it also makes sense that no one would recognize him, one because --
BEN: He was a child and now he’s not. That's a big one.
CODY: And also because I have not rewatched Iron Man 3. It’s fine.
BEN: I haven't, but it was just on in a restaurant that I was in recently, in the background.
CODY: So really quickly before we take a break, before we move on, the future of the Marvel
universe. We already talked some about the Disney shows, but those seem like they're not --
you know, they are tertiary, even though they're gonna feature in. But as far as where they go
with the main story, coming up, we have Spider-Man, which will definitely -- they've said that
this is technically part of Phase Three because it's just dealing with the fallout of it.
BEN: Have we confirmed that it is for sure taking place after Endgame?
CODY: I believe so. I'm saying this without as much information as I could have, because there
is a new trailer out I saw today.
BEN: Oh.
CODY: I saw the news for it. I'm not gonna watch it.
BEN: Are you on the no trailer train?
CODY: But it has a spoiler warning on the trailer.
BEN: Oh, for Endgame?
CODY: Right.
BEN: Interesting.
CODY: And I think, you know, from the initial trailer, it's him, you know, going away on this
vacation. It does seem like it's him trying to, you know, get away from everything.
BEN: But I thought it was just like a school trip.
CODY: I think it might be, but I think I think it might be, you know, an excuse to get rid of losing
his father figure again.
BEN: Again. Not that we know much yet about Uncle Ben, although we did see his initials on a
briefcase, or on the suitcase that he was packing in the first trailer for Far From Home.
CODY: I did not know that.
BEN: You see Ben’s initials. So finally getting some some clues about what's going on there.
CODY: Right. So that will be the follow-up initially, and then we have the Black Widow movie.
BEN: Is that confirmed?
CODY: That's the next thing after Far From Home.
BEN: Are you serious?
CODY: Yeah, it’s next year, I believe.
BEN: Seriously?
CODY: Yes.
BEN: This is the first I'm hearing of this.
CODY: Really? Yeah, this is really interesting because, of course, she he died in Endgame.
They haven't said much about it, if it's going to be a prequel or what. To me, a prequel would be
less interesting now that we have her finished story, than would be exploring the soul realm. Is
that what it’s called?
BEN: So that, it's referenced in Black Panther, I think. Like, the spirit realm, when he communes
with his --
CODY: So just to bring in people who might not quite understand this deep, so in the movie, she
sacrifices herself because that's how they have to get the Soul Stone. And in the comics, there
is this whole realm that exists that is the spirit realm.
BEN: Within the Soul Stone, essentially?
CODY: Yes. But then it's also unclear how that -- I think it is in the stone, but I don't know that
we have any evidence of that in the movie.
BEN: That's fair.
CODY: There were theories around that, about how they would get Gamora back. But now we
have a different timeline’s Gamora.
BEN: And we also don't have the stones.
CODY: To me, it would be interesting to see Black Widow in the Soul Realm. I don't know if
that's gonna happen or if that's too cerebral. If we're just gonna get a prequel, that, to me, is
way less interesting. It can still be good.
BEN: My theory was definitely prequel, and I had been betting for some time that when they
would finally give her a movie, it would be her backstory.
CODY: Right.
BEN: Because every single movie she's in, she drops a couple of lines about where she came
from. There are references to her backstory.
CODY: Budapest? Is that where she and Hawkeye fought together?
BEN: I think it might be.
CODY: I think it was Budapest.
BEN: She also, I think, if I'm remembering this right, Agent Carter, her roommate in the show
Agent Carter, was a part of the same Soviet task force that Scarlet Witch -- or that Scarlett
Johansson, as Black Widow, eventually was a part of as well. Liken it was the same. They
referred to the same -- not the red room. I think that's from --
CODY: I'm not sure. I watched the first season of Agent Carter, but not super attentively
because it -- I thought I was fine.
BEN: Yeah, I thought it was fine as well.
CODY: But yes, I do think prequel is most likely. But I do think it would be way more interesting
to see a way for her to come back because I think that she still could have more to do if they
gave it a chance
BEN: And pay her for it as well.
CODY: Well yeah, true, but I don't think that should be a huge issue.
BEN: Especially for Disney.
CODY: I think they've got some money. They've got some cash sitting around, right?
BEN: After this film alone, I think they’re OK.
CODY: Yeah.
BEN: God love ‘em.
CODY: We've also got a lot of potential for Young Avengers because we have so many
children.
BEN: So many kids now.
CODY: Right. We have Scott Lang's daughter is older now.
BEN: We have Morgan Stark, who was five. But, you know, five-year-old Stark.
CODY: And the other kid who was at his funeral.
BEN: Yes. Who, at the end of Iron Man 3, had an entire lab donated by Tony Stark for him to
become an engineer.
CODY: And he’s an inventor. Potentially, he could just succeed him as a scientist in the
universe. We also have Monica Rambeau from Captain Marvel.
BEN: Yes, who in the comics, is a big deal.
CODY: She is a hero in her own right, and initially is one of the Captain Marvels, but then also
takes on her own names.
BEN: Right.
CODY: And I'm sure I'm forgetting some. There's a lot of kids.
BEN: Shuri.
CODY: Right, Shuri. So they could easily do something. Oh, Hawkeye’s daughter, which is
going to be --
BEN: The new Hawkeye? Is she going to be in the show?
CODY: Well, I think in the Disney+ show, I believe they have said that it's gonna deal with him
training her.
BEN: That’s awesome.
CODY: I don't know if that will be also focus.
BEN: Well, that would be cool if he became Ronin, which he kind of was evolving into/fully
already was in Endgame, and let her take up the mantle. He also called her Hawkeye during the
sequence when he was training her at the beginning. He said, like, “good job, Hawkeye.”
CODY: I didn't catch that. Really quick, the next Thanos. The next big bad. Who do you want?
BEN: Galactus.
CODY: Boring.
BEN: Bah, why boring?
CODY: Ben, boring. Because we've just had a big galactic threat.
BEN: But Galactus is bigger in size.
CODY: He is, but his motivations aren't as exciting. He's just wants to eat planets.
BEN: Which, like, who among us does not get hungry?
CODY: Boring.
BEN: I would like to see it.
CODY: My pick, Doctor Doom.
BEN: Oh. But he's not the same cosmic threat.
CODY: Exactly. He comes from Earth. We've done cosmic. We can take a break from that.
Doctor Doom being a big threat coming from Earth, and his motivations are so awesome. I love
Doom.
BEN: What do you think his motivations would be in the MCU, though?
CODY: Well, his motivations are pretty much, at least in most of the better versions of his
character, that he has seen the future. There's this whole thing where he goes to this shaman in
the desert or something, but they could have a bunch of different ways to do it. But that he's
seen all of these different futures, similar to Doctor Strange in Infinity War, and that from all the
ones he saw, the only one where humanity lasted as far as he could see was the one where he
was the outright ruler. And that's why he wants control.
BEN: Interesting. I don’t think I knew that.
CODY: So is his thing is that he's trying to save humanity, but he's also a terrible tyrant and
dictator. But in his mind, that's the only way.
BEN: What needs to be done.
CODY: So he's fascinating.
BEN: Interesting.
CODY: And they've already done sort of that region because they brought in Sokovia.
BEN: But Sokovia was not his country.
CODY: No, it wasn't. But they've already explored the area.
BEN: I was thinking Sokovia would make sense. They could just retroactively make him the
ruler of Sokovia.
CODY: Instead of Latveria.
BEN: Yes.
CODY: Or they could introduce it as part of, you know, just sort of a neighboring country to
Sokovia, something like that. But now that we do have the Fantastic Four rights back in the
grasp, I'm excited to see a good Fantastic Four.
BEN: Which also allows Galactus to come in.
CODY: It does, but let's see --
BEN: Something else.
CODY: Doom first.
BEN: I think he would be a good, at least like a phase villain, the same way that Loki was kind
of the overarching villain.
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CODY: Well, we've got some beeping. I'm sure what that is. That's a good time for us to take a
break. So let's do that, and we'll come back and talk about something else.
BEN: See you in, like, a second.
CODY: Thanks for listening.
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