Pranotthana or Kundalini?

 
Pranotthana or Kundalini? Swami Santaram Saraswati
Director Satyananda Ashram, Spain
Recently a large number of books and magazines have been published
concerning investigations into the reality of kundalini. Unfortunately, much
of what has been written shows only a very preliminary and partial
knowledge of the actual awakening process. In many texts, the
pranotthana or release of pranic force within the body has been confused
with the actual awakening of kundalini.

Pranotthana is the first thing that happens as the individual evolves, and it
is this release of energy which triggers off the actual awakening of
kundalini. Without pranotthana the kundalini is not awakened.
There are two ways in which pranotthana can take place. The first is by
regular practice of asanas, pranayama, concentration and meditation
techniques. Through these practices, the prana is gradually released in the
body, starting the preliminary process of purification of organs, glands,
nervous system, brain and nadis. The complete purification comes only
with the kundalini awakening and rising to the brain.
The second way in which pranotthana occurs is by shaktipat, the
awakening of energy effected by a guru. Shaktipat does not directly
awaken kundalini, it only releases the prana of the disciple. However, it is
this prana in movement that awakens the kundalini. The time it takes to do
so depends on the mental and physical impurities of the disciple as well as
on his attitude towards the guru who gave him shaktipat and towards this
new process working in him.

Whether pranotthana occurs by individual efforts or by the activation of

one's prana by a guru, the fact is that this is not kundalini awakening as
many people are saying. The confusion perhaps came about because the
process which pranotthana affects on the body and mind of the individual
is somewhat similar in the beginning to that of kundalini awakening. Some
books state that this energy - kundalini - awoke and rose up to the brain,
either straight away or after a few times, in many individuals. Nevertheless,
these people carried on with their normal lives, apart from an improvement
in health and mental clarity. This shows that it was not the kundalini energy
that rose to the brain, but the pranic force released by pranotthana. This
force follows the same pathways as does kundalini energy. It starts in
mooladhara and ascends the spine, purifying the chakras, partially but not
completely, until it reaches the brain. This pranic force thus makes it easier
for the kundalini purificatory process which will come about at a later time.
As the pranic force purifies, it creates automatic body movements,
spontaneous asanas, pranayamas, visions of lights, etc. as it encounters
inner physiological and psychological blockages. Once pranotthana has
finished its initial work of purification, it normally stabilises itself for a time,
before it starts dealing with the kundalini energy,. After a time, kundalini
awakens. With the kundalini awakening, spontaneous movements,
mudras, bandhas, pranayamas, generation of a lot of heat, psychic
visions, etc. start occurring. But these are of a more intense and deeper
nature than those caused by pranotthana. It is now that spontaneous
natural meditation occurs and not before. It is now that real purification
takes place, and the state of consciousness of the individual radically
changes. A higher state of awareness automatically dawns on the
individual, and his behaviour, relations with his environment, understanding
of things, etc. changes completely. He definitely seems to be a different
personality. Powerful changes occur in every field of his physiology and
psychology. Automatically, the man starts becoming more subtle and
spiritual, or on the other hand, starts behaving like a neurotic. If he still has
many blockages - not having purified himself by the practice of asanas,
pranayamas, mudras, bandhas, concentration, karma yoga, etc. - the
awakening can cause temporary insanity. Such people may spend some
time in the mental hospital. These extreme cases occur when
inexperienced individuals try to awaken their kundalini energy through
unscientific methods, without any preparation. However, when properly
initiated and guided by an experienced guru, kundalini awakening is a
spiritual rebirth for the aspirant.
However, everything does not end here. Awakening of kundalini in itself is
not a difficult thing, what is important is the ascending of the energy
through the sushumna passage, and this is not easy, truly it isn't. The
awakening can be effected by any guru or by your own efforts in yoga, but
what then? The ascent through sushumna is clogged with samskaras,
physical and psychic impurities. These great barriers are the obstacles
which the kundalini energy itself will have to pull down and burn. This
process will affect the aspirant in many ways causing great physical
transformation, psychic visions, e.s.p. experiences, strange illnesses,
unconsciousness, etc. all this depending on the impurities he has on the
different levels of his being. But these are only transitory things, which go
away as they came, leaving a purified awareness.
Truly this is the energy of evolution, without which a man will remain
ordinary, his latent faculties dormant. Once you have put your foot on this
path, you will never want to go back.
 
http://www.yogamag.net/archives/1979/cmar79/prano.shtml
Edited July 31, 2013 by SonOfTheGods
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I do not think most members here are familiar with pranotthana, or have
ever even heard of it before. I am limited by my time to come use the
internet, but I plan on making a detailed description and possible a blog
about this topic if I have enough time. I see many posts here and other
laces on the internet where people are mistaking these two all too often. I
will help clear things up, just give me a little time.
 
Have a great week SOTG!
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On 7/31/2013 at 1:18 PM, AboveSky said:

I do not think most members here are familiar with pranotthana, or have
ever even heard of it before. I am limited by my time to come use the
internet, but I plan on making a detailed description and possible a blog
about this topic if I have enough time. I see many posts here and other
laces on the internet where people are mistaking these two all too often. I
will help clear things up, just give me a little time.
 
Have a great week SOTG!
I am looking forward to this, and thank you.
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Thank you for the interesting article, SonOfTheGods!
 
I have felt for awhile that most of what people think is a Kundalini
awakening/ movement is not the real deal...mostly because of what
happens during and after.
 
This article explains what many are experiencing and I have observed.
 
I enjoyed the read.
 
Peace
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Pranotthana. hmm...
 
in terms of my own personal experience, i think this concept of
pranotthana can be applied to what most people experience during a Reiki
attunement. it certainly fits what i experienced in the '90s via attunement
to the first two levels of reiki. for some people who are ripe, and for those
who find reiki teachers who are unusually strong, the final attunement, the
master attunement, CAN trigger a full-on Kundalini awakening. but most
often the process initiated is still this pranotthana.
 
nonetheless i think this helps me to dileniate between reiki and shaktipat.
 
had i known about kundalini back in the '90s, i would have sworn that my
Master attunement awakened my kundalini. i would have been wrong, but
the experience at the time was more profound than anything else i knew.
when my kundalini was actually triggered, it hurt, scared me, and left me
bed-ridden for a week. though the trigger was from a qigong master, my
experience was NOTHING like the smoothe unfolding as guided by a true
guru.
 
what troubles me about the article is that a number of times it talks about
the kundalini 'awakening and rising to the brain,' as if both happen at the
same time. they don't. yet the author insists on glossing over this point
and muddies the waters in doing so.
 
also, i think it should also be acknowledged that not all shaktipat initiations
are created equal. shaktipat has become so commonplace here now that
its pollution and dilution is inevitable. i received shaktipat every week for a
year from a man named Swami ********, and not once did it live up to my
experience of reiki back in the '90s. yet, i received shaktipat from Mark
Griffin, and it completely transformed my spiritual life after the very first
initiation. so it needs to be stated that not all suposed shaktipat gurus are
bringing the real juice.
 
i really like that the article mentions that the attitude of the student towards
the guru has a significant effect on the transmission. i wish it had
developed that point further to shed light on the power of devotion in the
guru-disciple relationship, and the fact that approaching a guru with the
attitude of a critic or a tourist will most often limit and obstruct the
transmission process.
Edited February 2, 2015 by Hundun
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Hundun, nice to see you around again!

M
 
  

On 8/4/2013 at 1:42 AM, Hundun said:

Pranotthana. hmm...
 
in terms of my own personal experience, i think this concept of
pranotthana can be applied to what most people experience during a Reiki
attunement. it certainly fits what i experienced in the '90s via attunement
to the first two levels of reiki. for some people who are ripe, and for those
who find reiki teachers who are unusually strong, the final attunement, the
master attunement, CAN trigger a full-on Kundalini awakening. but most
often the process initiated is still this pranotthana.
 
nonetheless i think this helps me to dileniate between reiki and shaktipat.
 
had i known about kundalini back in the '90s, i would have sworn that my
Master attunement awakened my kundalini. i would have been wrong, but
the experience at the time was more profound than anything else i knew.
when my kundalini was actually triggered, it hurt, scared me, and left me
bed-ridden for a week. though the trigger was from a qigong master, my
experience was NOTHING like the smoothe unfolding as guided by a true
guru.
 
what troubles me about the article is that a number of times it talks about
the kundalini 'awakening and rising to the brain,' as if both happen at the
same time. they don't. yet the author insists on glossing over this point
and muddies the waters in doing so.
 
also, i think it should also be acknowledged that not all shaktipat initiations
are created equal. shaktipat has become so commonplace here now that
its pollution and dilution is inevitable. i received shaktipat every week for a
year from a man named Swami ********, and not once did it live up to my
experience of reiki back in the '90s. yet, i received shaktipat from Mark
Griffin, and it completely transformed my spiritual life after the very first
initiation. so it needs to be stated that not all suposed shaktipat gurus are
bringing the real juice.
 
i really like that the article mentions that the attitude of the student towards
the guru has a significant effect on the transmission. i wish it had
developed that point further to shed light on the power of devotion in the
guru-disciple relationship, and the fact that approaching a guru with the
attitude of a critic or a tourist will most often limit and obstruct the
transmission process.

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Posted August 4, 2013
  

On 8/3/2013 at 6:07 PM, Uroboros said:

Thank you for the interesting article, SonOfTheGods!
 
I have felt for awhile that most of what people think is a Kundalini
awakening/ movement is not the real deal...mostly because of what
happens during and after.
 
This article explains what many are experiencing and I have observed. 
 
I enjoyed the read. 
 
Peace
 
This was only posted, as a separate thread, because I thought it was
important. Too many people think their Kundalini awoke, when it might be
something else.
Depending on individual circumstances, that could either be a good, or
bad, thing.
 
  

On 8/4/2013 at 1:42 AM, Hundun said:

Pranotthana. hmm...
 
in terms of my own personal experience, i think this concept of
pranotthana can be applied to what most people experience during a Reiki
attunement. it certainly fits what i experienced in the '90s via attunement
to the first two levels of reiki. for some people who are ripe, and for those
who find reiki teachers who are unusually strong, the final attunement, the
master attunement, CAN trigger a full-on Kundalini awakening. but most
often the process initiated is still this pranotthana.
 
nonetheless i think this helps me to dileniate between reiki and shaktipat.
 
had i known about kundalini back in the '90s, i would have sworn that my
Master attunement awakened my kundalini. i would have been wrong, but
the experience at the time was more profound than anything else i knew.
when my kundalini was actually triggered, it hurt, scared me, and left me
bed-ridden for a week. though the trigger was from a qigong master, my
experience was NOTHING like the smoothe unfolding as guided by a true
guru.
 
what troubles me about the article is that a number of times it talks about
the kundalini 'awakening and rising to the brain,' as if both happen at the
same time. they don't. yet the author insists on glossing over this point
and muddies the waters in doing so.
 
also, i think it should also be acknowledged that not all shaktipat initiations
are created equal. shaktipat has become so commonplace here now that
its pollution and dilution is inevitable. i received shaktipat every week for a
year from a man named Swami ********, and not once did it live up to my
experience of reiki back in the '90s. yet, i received shaktipat from Mark
Griffin, and it completely transformed my spiritual life after the very first
initiation. so it needs to be stated that not all suposed shaktipat gurus are
bringing the real juice.
 
i really like that the article mentions that the attitude of the student towards
the guru has a significant effect on the transmission. i wish it had
developed that point further to shed light on the power of devotion in the
guru-disciple relationship, and the fact that approaching a guru with the
attitude of a critic or a tourist will most often limit and obstruct the
transmission process.

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Posted October 12, 2013
  

On 7/31/2013 at 1:18 PM, AboveSky said:

I do not think most members here are familiar with pranotthana, or have
ever even heard of it before. I am limited by my time to come use the
internet, but I plan on making a detailed description and possible a blog
about this topic if I have enough time. I see many posts here and other
laces on the internet where people are mistaking these two all too often. I
will help clear things up, just give me a little time.
 
Have a great week SOTG!
never came back?

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Here is the thing.
 
Kundalini is from the tantric traditions.
 
Technically speaking, a Swami is not an authority.

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I don't think Swamis are an authority on anything, except bullshit.
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Interesting concept

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By SonOfTheGods, July 28, 2013 in General Discussion

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Here is what I think. Once the kundalini energy has risen, your chakras are
supposedly opened. Do they get closed? I don't think so. They may
become inactive. Is possible that your previous Kundalini energy rising
wasn't completed. Did the energy ever complete its cycle from the lower
end of your spine, reaching to your third eye, and seeing a strong light as
the nimitta? Now, you may be experiencing samadhi, not exactly the initial
onslaught of the kundalini energy rising. A cultivator can experience
multiple stages of samadhi. I believe there are 8 stages to go through, and
not possibly one can go through them all in a single life time.
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If you want to balance out the energy you could try Microcosmic Orbit to
bring the energy down and also standing on the ground with barefeet to
connect with the earth energy which is good at balancing K.

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On 7/28/2013 at 2:03 PM, SonOfTheGods said:

I had a blinding white light, and seen it days later, even with eyes open.
Many times a day, since then, I see (eyes open) orbs of gas blue light,
which change to colorful light patterns, grids, etc.,
Are you feeling the heat, or fire? If not, you are experiencing samadhi, not
the initial onslaught of the kundalini energy rising.

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On 7/28/2013 at 2:12 PM, ChiForce said:

Are you feeling the heat, or fire? If not, you are experiencing samadhi, not
the initial onslaught of the kundalini energy rising.
The energy is cool, almost cold, and is purely magnetic/Yin

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I sit at the computer, read, any mundane activity, all the while in full lotus.
My 3 Dan Tiens are always percolating.
 
Not complaining, just curious if anyone else is experiencing this.

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Hello there. Welcome to the bums forum. Thankyou for coming to share
with us.
 
I experienced the lights and grids,the cool energy, I know about
severe pains in the head, not had it change shape as far as I can tell.
 
It sounds to me that you have a lot to teach us. I would be glad to hear.
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Good luck. Hope you enjoy it better the second time around.

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On 7/29/2013 at 8:15 AM, hydrogen said:

Good luck. Hope you enjoy it better the second time around.
Thank you.

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On 7/29/2013 at 5:06 AM, cat said:

Hello there. Welcome to the bums forum. Thankyou for coming to share
with us.
 
I experienced the lights and grids,the cool energy, I know about
severe pains in the head, not had it change shape as far as I can tell.
 
It sounds to me that you have a lot to teach us. I would be glad to hear.
 
Thank you, and I would be grateful to share what I know.

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On 7/28/2013 at 2:13 PM, SonOfTheGods said:

Also, my head is starting to misshapen again.
Lumps at the back, my occipital points are also swollen and my forehead
is also lumping up.
The fontanelle is opening and aching again too.
dude that sounds like a serious medical issue, not kundalini >_>;

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On 7/29/2013 at 9:47 AM, Flolfolil said:

dude that sounds like a serious medical issue, not kundalini >_>;
I had this happen a few decades ago, it worked itself out.
 
The skull has the ability to shift it's plates.
 
Does look strange though.
 
When a baby is passed though in childbirth, it's head appears folded.
 
Some say the central meridian we share, is created by the folding of the
fetus in the womb.

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Sages are supposed to have heads that are pointy on top!
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On 7/29/2013 at 10:03 AM, cat said:

Sages are supposed to have heads that are pointy on top!
I have a vertical crease now, running from back to front, top of skull.
 
I look like an overgrown piggy bank.

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can you post a picture of your head condition? preferably with some kind
of identifying quality like holding up 3 fingers in the frame of the shot
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I am going to upload some instructional videos on Youtube.
Want to make some freinds here first who are likeminded.

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On 7/28/2013 at 1:59 PM, ChiForce said:

Here is what I think. Once the kundalini energy has risen, your chakras are
supposedly opened. Do they get closed? I don't think so. They may
become inactive. Is possible that your previous Kundalini energy rising
wasn't completed. Did the energy ever complete its cycle from the lower
end of your spine, reaching to your third eye, and seeing a strong light as
the nimitta? Now, you may be experiencing samadhi, not exactly the initial
onslaught of the kundalini energy rising. A cultivator can experience
multiple stages of samadhi. I believe there are 8 stages to go through, and
not possibly one can go through them all in a single life time.
 
This post is the closest answer. I still would adapt it a bit though. He states
his Kundalini awoke beofre, but that is not the case.
 
What you have gone through in the past is not a real full on Kundalini
Awakening as most call it. What you experienced was what we refer to as
pranotthana. You can google it for more info. The first link has some
decent information, not much but it is good to get an idea. http://
www.yogamag.net/archives/1979/cmar79/prano.shtml
 
I see a lot of misinformation about Kundalini around the internet. I would
say the great majority of many believing they are having a Kundalini
experience are really just experiencing something else, most of the time
the mystical experiences are just pranotthana. It is still very emotional
profound and special feeling to experience pranotthana, but it is mutch
different than having a full on Kundalini Awakening. What you described
physically feeling is very common with pranotthana, but judging what you
describe that is definitely it. I think a lot of when practicioners would have
the awakenings at 100 days, this was all just powerful pranotthana. You
may even have an "afterglow" for a long period after, and you will probably
have different abilities that are stronger after the experience, but it is not
Kundalini. Pranotthana may eventually lead there, but too many mistake
this. We have even witnessed very powerful, energetic, knowledgeable
practitioners mistake pranotthana for K, you are far from alone.
 
In all honesty, there are even some out there that claim to have had a full
on K experience that offer classes and help for others, that have not had a
true K Awakening. Some very popular "teachers" that are well known,
talked about even here on this forum, and charge nice amounts of money
for there "help" and guidance. I would say it is a bit disturbing, but they
honestly do not know that they have only experienced strong pranotthana
instead of K! And they are still very peaceful, talented, powerful, helpful
gifted humans that others can learn from- they just have not experienced
true Kundalini Awakening.
 
I would liken it to young girls who are just starting out with sexual
experiences. Many girls do not experience an orgasm right away. When
they talk with their friends they might say things like "Yeah I think I had
one", "I definitely felt the rush", ect. They do have tingly energetic, highly
emotional, pleasurable moments, but until they have a full blown orgasm
that is all they know.
 
Kundalini is just like this. I had the same thing happen to me before,
pranotthana experiences I mistook for K, but when it actually does
happen, it is beyond mere words. A lot of us work together, and I can tell
you right now that after having a true K awakening, there is absolutely,
positively 100% no losing it or having it fade away only to come back
decades later. A true K Awakening is a life changing event. Possibly on of
the biggest life changing events one could have.
 
It is far beyond seeing a light, feeling the pranaQiKi move up, and being
able to detect or see energy and grids. For me at first, I immediately
thought I had died, which was not shocking, and from others I know have
gone through real K Awakenings I was ready for and expecting. It was very
associative in a way that I did not feel my body in the usual sense, merely
melted away into a pool of everything, all energy in all forms and
frequencies from every dimension. Endless energy with endless
knowledge. Very much beyond words. When it first happened, once I
came "back", I was hovering over my material body but able to see all
around me in every direction, and eyes were still closed. I have limited
computer access, but I will tell of some more experiences when I am able.
 
I could see everything around me with my eyes closed. I don't think I said
a single word for more than a few days. I was in society too, but nobody
seemed to notice that I wasn't saying anything, it seemed I was
communicating almost better than when I talk with voice. Very different
and I had it happen before to an extent, just not like this for so long, with
such precision. Astral/ethereal projection can happen with very minimal
effort, and seem as real if not more real that "usual life". (I actually have a
funny story about projecting around earth once realtime and observing a
young group of kids partying. I think they were on drugs because one of
them noticed me and it was a little startling not only for him! That had not
happened before)
 
I can definitely help with others going through what they consider
Kundalini Syndrome, I understand how hard it can be. Your body really
needs to be ready for it, because if you were to have the full K experience
without being ready it is not like the troubles most go through struggling
with K Awakening. You would literally die or go crazy, not just feel like you
were going to. Your body must be ready to handle all the new things you
are able to perceive and you have to control everything perfectly. Knowing
things about people you have never met, or sometimes worse people you
have met. Energy in every manner, not just grids. No need for sex. More
people very attracted to you, but you can still give them energy and leave
them satisfied without having to cater to everyone or reject. One of my
problems I encountered is that I always know when people are lying so it
would be hard even if you wanted a relationship. Can not remember the
last time I had an argument with someone.
 
This should give you enough to take in and think about. Research
pranotthana and come back or PM me if you have any more questions.
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On 7/30/2013 at 1:45 AM, AboveSky said:
This post is the closest answer. I still would adapt it a bit though. He states
his Kundalini awoke beofre, but that is not the case.
 
What you have gone through in the past is not a real full on Kundalini
Awakening as most call it. What you experienced was what we refer to as
pranotthana. You can google it for more info. The first link has some
decent information, not much but it is good to get an idea. http://
www.yogamag.net/archives/1979/cmar79/prano.shtml
 
I see a lot of misinformation about Kundalini around the internet. I would
say the great majority of many believing they are having a Kundalini
experience are really just experiencing something else, most of the time
the mystical experiences are just pranotthana. It is still very emotional
profound and special feeling to experience pranotthana, but it is mutch
different than having a full on Kundalini Awakening. What you described
physically feeling is very common with pranotthana, but judging what you
describe that is definitely it. I think a lot of when practicioners would have
the awakenings at 100 days, this was all just powerful pranotthana. You
may even have an "afterglow" for a long period after, and you will probably
have different abilities that are stronger after the experience, but it is not
Kundalini. Pranotthana may eventually lead there, but too many mistake
this. We have even witnessed very powerful, energetic, knowledgeable
practitioners mistake pranotthana for K, you are far from alone.
 
In all honesty, there are even some out there that claim to have had a full
on K experience that offer classes and help for others, that have not had a
true K Awakening. Some very popular "teachers" that are well known,
talked about even here on this forum, and charge nice amounts of money
for there "help" and guidance. I would say it is a bit disturbing, but they
honestly do not know that they have only experienced strong pranotthana
instead of K! And they are still very peaceful, talented, powerful, helpful
gifted humans that others can learn from- they just have not experienced
true Kundalini Awakening.
 
I would liken it to young girls who are just starting out with sexual
experiences. Many girls do not experience an orgasm right away. When
they talk with their friends they might say things like "Yeah I think I had
one", "I definitely felt the rush", ect. They do have tingly energetic, highly
emotional, pleasurable moments, but until they have a full blown orgasm
that is all they know.
 
Kundalini is just like this. I had the same thing happen to me before,
pranotthana experiences I mistook for K, but when it actually does
happen, it is beyond mere words. A lot of us work together, and I can tell
you right now that after having a true K awakening, there is absolutely,
positively 100% no losing it or having it fade away only to come back
decades later. A true K Awakening is a life changing event. Possibly on of
the biggest life changing events one could have.
 
It is far beyond seeing a light, feeling the pranaQiKi move up, and being
able to detect or see energy and grids. For me at first, I immediately
thought I had died, which was not shocking, and from others I know have
gone through real K Awakenings I was ready for and expecting. It was very
associative in a way that I did not feel my body in the usual sense, merely
melted away into a pool of everything, all energy in all forms and
frequencies from every dimension. Endless energy with endless
knowledge. Very much beyond words. When it first happened, once I
came "back", I was hovering over my material body but able to see all
around me in every direction, and eyes were still closed. I have limited
computer access, but I will tell of some more experiences when I am able.
 
I could see everything around me with my eyes closed. I don't think I said
a single word for more than a few days. I was in society too, but nobody
seemed to notice that I wasn't saying anything, it seemed I was
communicating almost better than when I talk with voice. Very different
and I had it happen before to an extent, just not like this for so long, with
such precision. Astral/ethereal projection can happen with very minimal
effort, and seem as real if not more real that "usual life". (I actually have a
funny story about projecting around earth once realtime and observing a
young group of kids partying. I think they were on drugs because one of
them noticed me and it was a little startling not only for him! That had not
happened before)
 
I can definitely help with others going through what they consider
Kundalini Syndrome, I understand how hard it can be. Your body really
needs to be ready for it, because if you were to have the full K experience
without being ready it is not like the troubles most go through struggling
with K Awakening. You would literally die or go crazy, not just feel like you
were going to. Your body must be ready to handle all the new things you
are able to perceive and you have to control everything perfectly. Knowing
things about people you have never met, or sometimes worse people you
have met. Energy in every manner, not just grids. No need for sex. More
people very attracted to you, but you can still give them energy and leave
them satisfied without having to cater to everyone or reject. One of my
problems I encountered is that I always know when people are lying so it
would be hard even if you wanted a relationship. Can not remember the
last time I had an argument with someone.
 
This should give you enough to take in and think about. Research
pranotthana and come back or PM me if you have any more questions.
 
Excellent information. Excellent.
 
I also believe most Kundalini awakenings are either stirings, or
Pranotthana experiences. Too many people are reporting Kundalini
expereinces, and a true one, is too rare to happen so often. Experimenting
with drugs, or, stress, solar changes, etc. are causing these break out
Pranotthana experiences, in mass.
 
I will add a little background on mine.
 
I always had a mystical childhood.
When I was a pre-teen, I would lay in bed and get surges of energy
radiating into my brain, causing dizzyness.
I had several seizures as an infant, all in one day, but never again.
 
I was into occultism and magick by the time I reached puberty.
 
I had an accident and blew out my Lumbar spine.
Couple of months later, I had my Kundalini experience.
 
I felt a rumbling like an earthquake. My heart raced so hard I thought I
would die. I felt like I was sitting on top of a volcano. I feel lava course up
through me. White light brighter than 100 suns embedded into my skull.
 
I was at zero point.
 
Energy spiraling upwards and energy pouring down into my crown.
I thought I had died.
 
I heard voices, seen faces, and developed various Siddhis, afterwards.
 
It changed my life. I left society, and my life had a new dedication.
The Kundalini had never left me, but rumbled and surged everyday since I
had this, decades earlier.
 
My skull had misshapen.
I could see auras, and became an extreme empath.
 
After my initial Kundalini awakening, the rest of my spine started to break
down, and I felt surges of energy weave in and out of my verterbraes. I had
repeated MRIs, EMGs, EKGS (due to what felt like heart problems, though
everything was normal).
 
I had a fever as well for almost a year after the initial awakening.
 
Several decades of daily meditations, surges, and every changing Siddhis
and adventures.
 
Through out the day, every day, I glimpse indigo and gas blue patterns of
energy, what look like small portals. It feels like one prolonged psychedelic
journey.
 
However, recently, I am feeling like the initial awakening, starting all over
again.
Edited July 30, 2013 by SonOfTheGods
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On 7/29/2013 at 4:29 PM, SonOfTheGods said:

I am going to upload some instructional videos on Youtube.
Want to make some freinds here first who are likeminded.
On second thought, probably not the best idea.

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