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Heʼs not doing the dumb graphics anymore. His esthetic has actually become kind of boring and normal now. No more
yellow.
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 by snakejaw » Fri May 15, 2020 11:36 pm
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 Lux A Turner wrote: ↑ Sat May 09, 2020 7:32 am
 nomass wrote: ↑ Thu May 07, 2020 12:19 pm

...but Metasonix modules are pretty cool...
But am I cool enough to own one?
I'm having my doubts now
If you have to ask, you aren't. (Just joking!)

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 by artilect99 » Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 am
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=230181&start=150 1/9
I guess the downside of living through an analog/modular renaissance is that one day your mom brings home a bunch of
mutable instruments modules and starts making new age ambient relaxation videos with it for all her lifestyle followers on
instagram.
What's irksome is not the hipster kids posting lame modular noodling -- if there was youtube in the 90's I shudder to think
what I might have posted (luckily all that stuff is safely inaccessible on obsolete minidisc) -- but because it is a signal that
modular/hardware has become fashionable, part of some consumer lifestyle photo spread and for no other particular
reason. Those videos are more like commercials in the way they are shot and arranged; the synth is almost incidental. So
much attention is paid to appearances that it seems like its more about depicting a certain kind of lifestyle. They don't say
"listen to this" so much as "look at all my shiny toys." Don't you wanna be a cool hipster who drinks herbal tea by his floor to
ceiling windows in his zen garden and then have a morning modular session of some ambient dub techno? It's all a little
suspect. artilect99
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I mean it's not so much the mediocrity of it, but the idea of all the people who don't realize it's mediocre. You just know Posts: 114
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next to a banzai tree and 10 grand worth of designer acoustic tiles/modern art. It's like the modular synth is the new middle
age crisis mobile.
Luckily though, most of the pretenders will get bored and go back to curating microbrewery beer or making vegan mustache
wax or whatever the fuck.
Or maybe I'm just jealous because it took me two years to build up 2 rows of DIY modules and some youtuber can just drop
a few G stacks on whatever has a cool looking front panel.
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 by lisa » Thu May 21, 2020 2:00 am
 artilect99 wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 am

modular/hardware has become fashionable, part of some consumer lifestyle photo spread and for no other particular reason.
Those videos are more like commercials in the way they are shot and arranged; the synth is almost incidental. So much
attention is paid to appearances that it seems like its more about depicting a certain kind of lifestyle. They don't say "listen
to this" so much as "look at all my shiny toys." Don't you wanna be a cool hipster who drinks herbal tea by his floor to ceiling
windows in his zen garden and then have a morning modular session of some ambient dub techno? It's all a little suspect.
I mean it's not so much the mediocrity of it, but the idea of all the people who don't realize it's mediocre.
lisa
Iʼm not sure that this description has any truth to it. Are there really people getting into eurorack just to show off the gear in
glossy videos, with no interest in the music that they are making? People with no real interest in what they are doing but with Posts: 4576
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My first modular track where I used drum modules! BIA, Entity Percussion, Chimera, Elements. There's also a ton of FM cross modulation
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Re: "Get lost in the sounds of YouTube’s growing ambient modular synth community"
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 by Muzone » Thu May 21, 2020 2:34 am
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 lisa wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 2:00 am

......Are there really people getting into eurorack just to show off the gear in glossy videos, with no interest in the music that
they are making? People with no real interest in what they are doing but with a great drive to do it and to do it well? It sounds
insane.
I know a few of these types, time & cash rich folk who desperately want a shortcut into "creativity" and Eurorack fits their
aspirations perfectly. Muzone
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 by what gives? » Thu May 21, 2020 3:12 am
 artilect99 wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 am

I guess the downside of living through an analog/modular renaissance is that one day your mom brings home a bunch of
mutable instruments modules and starts making new age ambient relaxation videos with it for all her lifestyle followers on
instagram.
What's irksome is not the hipster kids posting lame modular noodling -- if there was youtube in the 90's I shudder to think
what I might have posted (luckily all that stuff is safely inaccessible on obsolete minidisc) -- but because it is a signal that
modular/hardware has become fashionable, part of some consumer lifestyle photo spread and for no other particular reason.
Those videos are more like commercials in the way they are shot and arranged; the synth is almost incidental. So much what gives?
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windows in his zen garden and then have a morning modular session of some ambient dub techno? It's all a little suspect.
I mean it's not so much the mediocrity of it, but the idea of all the people who don't realize it's mediocre. You just know
someone is finding an exciting new hobby because the social media "influencer" they follow showed off a sexy lit modular rig
next to a banzai tree and 10 grand worth of designer acoustic tiles/modern art. It's like the modular synth is the new middle
age crisis mobile.
Luckily though, most of the pretenders will get bored and go back to curating microbrewery beer or making vegan mustache
wax or whatever the fuck.
Or maybe I'm just jealous because it took me two years to build up 2 rows of DIY modules and some youtuber can just drop
a few G stacks on whatever has a cool looking front panel.
What was it that sparked your interest to go into modular?
 Muzone wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 2:34 am

I know a few of these types, time & cash rich folk who desperately want a shortcut into "creativity" and Eurorack fits their
aspirations perfectly. Let's be honest, spending a few grand on a "rig" is going to give quite a lot of instant gratification and
the ability to produce you tube-able cactus music withing a few weeks of purchase.
Is there something wrong with having time, cash and instant gratification? Good for them, really.
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 by Muzone » Thu May 21, 2020 3:36 am
 what gives? wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 3:12 am
.....Is there something wrong with having time, cash and instant gratification? Good for them, really.
I was making an observation, not a judgement - nothing wrong with spending your money and time in having fun, what else
are you going to do with it?
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 by synkrotron » Thu May 21, 2020 5:15 am
what a depressing read... Just saying... I won't be coming back to this one.
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Re: "Get lost in the sounds of YouTube’s growing ambient modular synth community"  skreetis
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Who cares what other people like or do? I donʼt like most of the music I hear, in general, but unless it is forced upon me, like Joined: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:04 pm
out in public, etc, it doesnʼt affect me in any way. I certainly donʼt go seeking out music on YouTube that I already know Location: The Wasteland
doesnʼt appeal to me. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and making you click on a video. Certainly nobody is forcing
anyone to watch Cactus Ambient videos. What kind of masochist goes around seeking out shit they donʼt like? A lot of music
sucks. Some of it is made with modular synths. Who cares?
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 by Fedor » Thu May 21, 2020 4:54 pm
I kinda had making videos in mind when planning the system, because I wanted to open up to the world a little bit, and
playing a screencast of your daw just isn't that interesting. Of course, experimenting with music and sound, experiencing
real analog oscillators and filters etc was the key drive. But the fact is - its easier to commit to a listen of something when its
a performance on an instrument, synth or otherwise.
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 by aragorn23 » Fri May 22, 2020 12:20 am aragorn23
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really not amenable to affording modular gear!) I don't hate the cactus people - I like their music and love the fact that they
share it in a way that reflects sensitivity to visual aesthetics. Watching videos by Lightbath, r beny, Ann Annie and co., all of
whom are in fact remarkably musically talented in my opinion, is what got me really into modular. Sure, there are a handful
of folks who reproduce their aesthetic quite closely, but why not - it really fits the music they're making (I especially love
Ann Annie's old videos shot in different outdoor locations).
90% of this thread just feels like what Nietzsche would call ressentiment (mixed with the worst kind of juvenile toxic
masculinity). It's silly and reminds me of when I was 15, listening to death metal and having to constantly humour
conversations between other 15 year olds about the crucial differences between being 'true metal' and just being a 'wimpy
poser'.
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 by Fog Door » Fri May 22, 2020 7:52 am
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the crucial differences between being 'true metal' and just being a 'wimpy poser'
And here we are discussing the crucial differences between being 'true modular' and 'true cactus'
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 by Voltcontrol » Fri May 22, 2020 8:03 am
Lol is this moanfest still going?
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 by missingtwin » Fri May 22, 2020 10:24 am
still my favorite thread atm.
projection, externalization, distortion
but mostly just defensiveness.
It's fascinating.
just as the inevitable defense "who cares what other people do?" is going to
pepper the thread - why does it bother you that the OP is bemoaning the creation of this type
of modular music? Does everyone get an award for participation?
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 by Jim the Oldbie » Fri May 22, 2020 10:33 am
"LOOK UNDER YOUR SEATS !!"

< looks under chair, sees a crumpled napkin and some week-old popcorn crumbs >
w-Wow!! Thank you so much!
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Re: "Get lost in the sounds of YouTube’s growing ambient modular synth community"  Domin
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 by missingtwin » Fri May 22, 2020 6:07 pm
If you think your shiny new metasonix module is broken straight out of the box, you are likely a succulent.
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 by onthebandwagon » Fri May 22, 2020 6:14 pm
 missingtwin wrote: ↑ Fri May 22, 2020 10:24 am
still my favorite thread atm.
projection, externalization, distortion
but mostly just defensiveness.
It's fascinating.
just as the inevitable defense "who cares what other people do?" is going to onthebandwagon
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They now have graduations for kindergarten.
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 onthebandwagon wrote: ↑ Fri May 22, 2020 6:14 pm
They now have graduations for kindergarten.
Seems pretty cruel to me. Imagine being 6 and forced to sit through some pompous ceremony.
 missingtwin wrote: ↑ Fri May 22, 2020 6:07 pm
If you think your shiny new metasonix module is broken straight out of the box, you are likely a succulent.
I'm not cool enough dude to own any of that stuff. Just got my clouds clone and wonder what should I put into it.
On topic of boring music. I've seen this guy on yt with a rack of size which would need a saguaro to match and was awfully
boring. Still, it seems somewhat of a failure because nobody was offended.
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 by missingtwin » Sat May 23, 2020 9:28 am
I'm not cool enough dude to own any of that stuff. Just got my clouds clone and wonder what should I put into it.
rhymes with chicken wings
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 by synkrotron » Sat May 23, 2020 9:38 am
 missingtwin wrote: ↑ Sat May 23, 2020 9:28 am

rhymes with chicken wings
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 by IEC » Sun May 24, 2020 2:35 am
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What is the charge? Video taping a plant? A succulent South American plant?
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 missingtwin wrote: ↑ Fri May 22, 2020 10:24 am
just as the inevitable defense "who cares what other people do?" is going to
of modular music? Does everyone get an award for participation?
It doesnʼt actually bother me - people complaining about minutiae is practically the basis of the internet - but it does remind
me of the “true metal vs false metal” argument which is oh so prevalent in the metal community. Those arguments never
amount to anything but an elitist circlejerk that makes the whole thing look rather unappealing to outsiders. Though, maybe
thatʼs the point.
Anyway, it doesnʼt really make any difference in the end. Thereʼs plenty of room for Rings into Clouds to exist alongside
brvtal tvbe distortion. Different strokes and all that. Iʼm just bitching about bitching. Seems to be quite in the spirit of the
thread. Who cares?
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 by dragulasbruder » Sun May 24, 2020 6:49 pm
I think OP's beef comes from this feeling that the modular Joan-and-Johnny-come-latelys are getting shunted to the social
media spotlight for doing some rather unimaginative patching (which, tbh, has been the backbone of most synthesizer music
since the Minimoog) and working in a well-trodden and well-groomed style of proximally abstract music, backed up by an a
e s t h e t i c home studio setup, some succulents, mood lights, and a GoPro. OP probably feels like sweaty, unkempt,
solder-burned builders toiling away in dingy fluorescent-lit garages and wood-paneled basements, buried neck-deep in
wire clippings are more "deserving" of this attention, but knows they're mostly too old and ugly to be youtube stars even if
they did a little tidying up.
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thumbnail.
I bet OP would be way more annoyed if the data lords suggested he "Get Lost in the Sounds of YouTube's Growing DIY
Acousmatic Harsh Tube Wall Modular Synth Community"--it would suggest that a buy-these-three-modules-and-make-
music-just-like-mine formula (lol you know which three) could crack what is perceived to be a "challenging" style of
composition and patching. It would suggest that music for difficult listening was in fact easy to make--I know that I, at least,
would find this notion aggravating, because I find this to be very much untrue.
I bet OP would be a lot happier if he just wiped his youtube search history every once in a while. Works for me. If I want to
see Hainbach, I know where to find him.
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 by zerodivide » Mon May 25, 2020 2:16 am
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everything in life is cyclical. Was modular better when it was only like 4 manufacturers and it was something nobody was Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:05 pm
doing basically? More people into modular = more money for the companies = more innovation and products. Yes its Location: Los Angeles
becoming trendy but that also means more modules are being purchased and look how many new products we're getting.
It's definitely feeling like the golden age of Modular right now. That has some negatives perhaps but mostly positive imo.
Look at the big picture, this is the cycle of life, you can't control it. Relax and go make some music
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Eléctrica (electric) Nāda (the yoga of sound).

 nomass wrote: ↑ Thu May 07, 2020 12:19 pm

If you have to ask, you aren't. (Just joking!)

 artilect99 wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 am

 lisa wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 2:00 am

 artilect99 wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 1:08 am

 Muzone wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 2:34 am

 what gives? wrote: ↑ Thu May 21, 2020 3:12 am

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Lol is this moanfest still going?

still my favorite thread atm.

"LOOK UNDER YOUR SEATS !!"

Jim the Oldbie

 missingtwin wrote: ↑ Fri May 22, 2020 10:24 am

 missingtwin wrote: ↑ Sat May 23, 2020 9:28 am

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