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TUESDAY, OCTOBER 29, 2013
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“A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the
balances are correct. This every sister of the Bene Gesserit knows,
To begin your study of the life of Muad’Dib, then take care that you
first place him in his time: born in the 57th year of the Padishah
Emperor, Shaddam IV. And take the most special care that you
locate Muad'Dib in his place: the planet Arrakis . . . Arrakis, the
Planet known as Dune, is forever his place.”
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Introduction to FuturesPast Editio…
In 1965, after being turned down by 22 different publishers

despite its enthusiastically received serialization in Analog,
Frank Herbert's Dune was published in a tiny edition, of 2, 000
copies by a small house known principally for auto-repair
manuals. Later that year, the paperback rights were picked by
a publisher of genre fiction, notorious for never paying royalties.
Herbert's earnings from both editions of his monumental vision
(700-plus pages) totaled a modest $2,500.
Nearly 20 years later, Dune and its successors have become massive-
selling cult classics, their success aided by a terrific series of plugs in
the Whole Earth Catalog and avid proselytizing by hardcore fans.
The fourth book, bearing the unlikely title God Emperor of Dune,
seemed to be permanently ensconced on the New York Times
bestseller list, and the Fifth, Heritage of Dune, has also made the
list. And David Lynch's filmed version of Dune was reportedly one WHERE TO GO FROM HERE
of the most expensive movies ever made (for its era). Futures-Past HomePage
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Herbert grew up and was educated in Washington state and spent
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two decades as a reporter and photographer for newspapers in the Ramond A. Palmer
Northwest before becoming a full-time novelist. (He was one of the Raymond Long
first photojournalists to use a 35mm camera.) Since then, he has been Stephen Brown
peripatetic to an extreme, living on and traveling to countless islands Stuart J. Byrne!
and at least five continents. He next plans to explore the terrain
surrounding Mt. Everest, with several Sherpa pals, and to document
the East/West culture clash in that altitudinous zone.
But when this interview was conducted, he was comfortably
settled in an airy condo on Manhattan Beach's boardwalk. State-of-
the-art stereo equipment dominated the absolutely uncluttered living
room. There are no books in sight. Herbert, clean-shaven, looked
like a handsomer Jack Albertson, and was much thinner than the
dust-jacket portrait would lead you to believe. Before and after the SUBSCRIBE TO
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genuinely pleased to be interviewed.
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JMS: Dune is your most celebrated, successful and in many ways
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most personal book. Certainly you must have approached the movie
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version with a very critical eye. What did you think of it?
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HERBERT: Some people who haven't read
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the book are a bit confused. About 20
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percent of these are put off. The others are
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saying, "I missed something. I'm going to pulp magazines (11)
go back and see it again or read the book." Arthur Byron Cover (9)
But I don't want to be in a position of just pulp (9)
flogging the book. It's a great movie. Isaac Asimov (8)
Really, David has done a damned fine job. amazing stories (8)
Pictorially and texturally it's beautiful. I Raymond A. Palmer (7)
kept wanting to freeze frame shots and say, "I want that one on my Stuart J. Byrne (7)
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wall, and that one, and that one." David's a painter; he had Tony
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Masters there as production designer, for God's sake. And his choice
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of visual metaphors is really superb. The idea of rococo Renaissance
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background art ... well, I recreated a medieval feudal society. So Imagination science fiction magazine (5)
what does Renaissance art say to Western viewers? It says Larry Maddock (5)
feudatory, right? You don't even need to mention it. It took me Tarzan on Mars (5)
many pages to create the effect on paper he creates in two seconds gene roddenberry (5)
with a shot. magazine (5)
The only way this movie could have been made was if they spent star trek (5)
megabucks on it. And to be pragmatic about it, that meant they had Asimov-Bott feud (4)
to do a production they could show in theaters everywhere, and that Edmond Hamilton (4)
J. D. Crayne (4)
meant that they had to cut it. Luckily, we have about five hours of
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film. In fact, we have as much film on the cutting room floor as we
Richard S. Shaver (4)
have on the screen. All the scenes that everybody misses from the
banned Tarzan novel (4)
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was on his way to climb the Himalayas with Sherpa guides,
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mentioned that he had just written the outline for what would be the
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final Dune book and he and an attorney had put a copy in a safe
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deposit box until he returned just in case anything happened to him. patron of the arts (3)
On his way to the Himalayas, Frank was diagnosed with a fast randall garrett (3)
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JMS: The First Dune book (the one the movie was based on) taken DUNE (2)
by itself seems pretty straightforward good guys vs. bad guys stuff, Damon Knight (2)
with the good guys triumphing at the end. But in the second book Darkness (2)
you question a number of assumptions you led the reader to make in Fafhrd (2)
Foundation series (2)
the first book and you reveal a much more complex and meaningful
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design than was apparent in the first book alone.
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HERBERT: The first three books were one book in my head. I wrote
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parts of the second two before I completed the first. In fact I wrote Henry Bott (2)
the last chapter of the first one before I finished it. I did develop the Hoot Gibson (2)
other two a bit more because I thought of new stuff. But when I Hugo Gernsback (2)
finished that third book I thought I was through with it. I had a I Vampire (2)
theory. Charismatic leaders -- not necessarily Messiahs, but John W. Campbell (2)
Messiahs included -- tend to create explosive upheavals in human Jr. (2)
societies which are very dangerous to individuals and to the societies LASFS (2)
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themselves, because they create power structures. So you get these
Michael Swanson (2)
centers of power and it doesn't matter a damned bit how pure and
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good the hero is. By just being he creates a power structure and so
Prophet of Dune (2)
it's like a magnet: the iron filings, the corruptible, come in and things Psycho (2)
are done in the name of the leader -- as they were done in Ralph Greco (2)
Christianity, in Islam, in Buddhism, in all major religions and lesser Raymond Long (2)
religions. Things done in the name of the leader are amplified by the Richard Toronto (2)
members, who follow without thinking, without questioning, and Second Foundation (2)
you wind up in Guyana drinking poisoned Kool-Aid. So I wanted to Star Man saga (2)
create a charismatic leader (Paul Muad-Dib, the hero of the novel Stories (2)
and film), a Messiah you would follow for all of the right reasons. T.E.R.R.A. (2)
The Caves of Steel (2)
He is loyal to his people, he's honorable and he's true to his friends.
The Green Millennium (2)
Every characteristic that you could possibly think of, including the
The Silver Eggheads (2)
prince in search of the Grail, is there in that character -- you would
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follow him right into Camelot. And there is the power structure that Webley (2)
grows up around him; that's what we deal with in the second book. Weird Tales (2)
That shook a lot of people. Here was a hero who didn't make William L. Hamling (2)
everything all right * He created a power structure. He did it just by b-westerns (2)
being there. barsoom (2)
JMS: In the Dune books, you seem to question a number of other batman (2)
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cultural assumptions. One of them is the belief that the
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establishment of a democracy necessarily addresses all of
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humankind's problems and needs.
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HERBERT: One of the things I noticed as a feminist science fiction (2)
reporter -- I was a journalist longer than I've golden age of erotic cinema (2)
been on this side of the table -- is that in all harlan ellison (2)
the marching in the streets in the '60s, the james van hise (2)
people who were shouting "Power to -the love without gun control (2)
People" didn't mean power to the people. magazines (2)
They meant "power to me and I'll tell the movies (2)

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people what to do." When you questioned
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them it was confirmed at every turn.
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Power to the people will really happen when the people wake up
our lady of darkness (2)
to the fact that you can't separate economics from politics, when they poul anderson (2)
wake up to their own motivations, what they want, what can be sold pulp science fiction (2)
to them. Because the real pitfall of democracy is that it is pulp westerns (2)
demagogue-prone. We like to have people stand up and tell us what science (2)
we want to hear. I have conditioned myself so that the minute I hear science fiction pulps (2)
a politician standing up there saying nice things that sound good to science fiction pulps. (2)
lot of people my alarm signals go off and I say, "Why, you damned shapechanger (2)
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I don't think there's a fucking bit of difference between a
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bureaucracy that is instituted by a democratic regime, a state;
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socialist regime, a communist regime or a capitalist regime. Take a
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look at us right now. We have created a bureaucracy in this country 1940s (1)
which is completely out of the hands of the people. Your votes do 2001 predicted in Amazing Stories (1)
not touch it. One day when I was working in Washington, D.C. as a 4E (1)
speech-writer for a U.S. senator from Oregon, I was at a meeting of Ackrmansion (1)
the Department of Commerce and a very, very high department America (1)
official, a lifetime bureaucrat, was talking about another senator, who Anthony Boucher (1)
was giving them some trouble. And this high bureaucrat called this Asimov (1)
senator a "transient." And sure enough, that senator was defeated in Award (1)
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the next election. So he was a transient. But the bureaucrat was, still
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there, and he retired on a separate retirement system for the federal
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bureaucracy.
Bond (1)
People ask me what I think about Reagan, or "Ray-gun," as I tend Boris Karloff (1)
to call him. Well, you know, he has several good things going for Buddhism (1)
him. Number one, we know he's an actor. We tend not to think Burroughs (1)
about other politicians as actors. But they all are. Mondale's an C. H. Thames (1)
actor. I have good reports, accurate reports on him offcamera. CHARLES (1)
Offstage he can be a real bastard to his people. You never see that CRABBE (1)
when the smiling man gets up in front of the camera. He depends on Captain Future (1)
his analyses to tell him what people want to hear. The other thing Captain Kirk (1)
about Reagan is that I think he's pretty much beyond the age where Carter (1)
he's easily corrupted. His foreign policy scares the shit out of me, Charles F. Myers (1)
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but as long as he's paranoid of the bureaucracy I'll stand aside and
Chesley Bonestell (1)
applaud. And say, "Focus on that baby!" For that much I like him.
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JMS: How do you feel we could put the power in the hands of the
Continent-Eight (1)
people? Cyril Kornbluth (1)
HERBERT: Well, I think there are several ways to do it. D. C. Comics (1)
Governments, being power centers, as I said before, attract the Deadline (1)
corrupt and the corruptible. So we have to go after the problem of Dero (1)
how do we design our Governments, so that we attract people who Doc Savage (1)
are not corruptible, or not easy to corrupt, anyway. The Romans ERB (1)
solved it a long time ago. Before they got on their empire kick they Ed Emsh (1)
Ed Emshwiller (1)
went out and got a leader and said, "You're the boss for a year or
Edgar (1)
two. But that's it!"
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One of the things I would do - If I could wave a magic wand - I
Edward E. Smith (1)
would give us a six-year presidency, 'no re-election. A two-term,
F. Orlin Tremaine (1)
maximum four-year senator, and a one-term, four-year congressman. FBI investigates science fiction writers (1)
If they can't discover how the system works in Washington within a FICITON (1)
month of being there (hell, I discovered within two weeks of FLASH (1)
working for a senator), then they aren't bright enough to belong FRANK HERBERT INTERVIEW (1)
there. It's a privilege to work for your society. Not a right, not FROM (1)
something earned by being there forever. We have to keep them in Famout Monsters (1)
for short terms, attract good people with high, pay. And if I had my Fantastic Voyage (1)
Forrest J. Ackerman (1)
say about it, I'd make it a criminal offense with long prison terms for
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any military officer to accept a job with a defense after a retirement.
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That's handing the fox the key to the henhouse and saying, "I'm
Gernsback (1)
going to be gone for the night." That's an invitation to corruption, Google (1)
and of course that's what we get. Grease (movie) (1)
We have the instruments and we have the precedents for handing Herstory (1)
power back to the people. I think government ought to be an Hokas (1)
experience. You know, when this government was formed it was Howard Browne (1)
called, worldwide, "The Great Experiment." Somewhere along the Hugo (1)
line we carved it in stone. Experiments are things you test and find Institute (1)
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out what's wrong with them. Right?
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I would experiment with a process that is now available to us. I
JACKSON II (1)
would call it something like "The Great Theory." I would select at
Jack the Ripper (1)
random, on the basis of those who voted in the last election (we
James (1)
could do this easily now with computers), a rotating core group of 13 James V Taurasi Sr. (1)
good people to serve at all levels of government, high and low. I Jerry Bixby (1)
would give them absolutely awesome powers, leave them in office Joe Vadalma (1)
for one year, and I would make it damn near a capital offense to John (1)
interfere with the operations of this whole thing. I would set it up so Julius Schwartz (1)
that they had a budget, a sufficient budget, but no standing support Karloff and Lugosi (1)
facilities, no continuing bureaucracies. Every new committee would Katherine MacLean (1)
have to hire its own people and its own experts under a spoils Killer Shrews (1)
system. And, at very high levels, I would give them the power of King of the Dinoaurs (1)
subpoena, the power to look in any place they wanted to look L. Sprague de Camp (1)
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without question - and the power to fire.
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Now let's go down to lowered levels. I discussed this with a
Larry Maddxock (1)
member of the bureaucracy in the state of Washington, an official of
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the school system. He asked me, "How would you apply this?" I Lemurians (1)
said: "Well, let's go to the local school district. Under my system Leo (1)
any time the local school district proposes to spend over X amount of Leonard Nimoy (1)
dollars, automatically such a review committee would be called into Locus Poll (1)
being. The members would be selected from among those who Loscon (1)
voted in the previous election. They'd have the power of life and Lovecraft (1)
death over that proposal, the power to subpoena; they could go into MAN (1)
MATINEE (1)
the school system and examine the records back to the dawn of
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history. They could look at how the school system is operating, how
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it had been spending its money in the past."
MING (1)
This bureaucrat asked me, "Do you think they'll always make MOVIE (1)
good decisions?" And I said, "No. But they'd only be there for a year Maddock (1)
and if they made a mistake it'd be very apparent and the next Man from U.N.C.L.E. (1)
committee could deal with it." His next reaction, I thought, was just Marie Laveau (1)
magnificent, very telling, almost like a classic Freudian slip. He Marissa St. James (1)
said: "Do you think some damned housewife could understand Mars (1)
what's going on in the school system that well?" [Laughs] I said: Mchristian (1)
"You bet your sweet bippy I do!" Because if you put the Mirror (1)
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responsibility on people, really put it on them, they rise to the
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occasion.
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I would also make it impossible for any person who had served on
Mrs. Peel (1)
one such committee ever to serve on one again. Once a lifetime. It Murray Leinster (1)
would completely turn around what we think of as the democratic Napoleon Solo (1)
system, because it would make voting attractive. You'd want to be in Ned Pines (1)
on the chance to be selected for this. And you would know that one New (1)
of you, somebody who voted, would be right in the seat of power if Nichelle Nichols (1)
the need arose. I think it would -really give power to the people, Nicholas van Rijn (1)
which is what democracy is supposed to be all about. Now all of the P. Schuyler Miller (1)
Palmer (1)
closet aristocrats will come out of the closet when you propose this
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kind of thing and say, "My God! At random you're going to get
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some real dopes!" And I would say,.,@$What are the statistical
Polesotechnic League (1)
probabilities that you would get 13 real dopes? Maybe you will.
R. Daneel (1)
Maybe the monkeys will type the great novel." Ramond A. Palmer (1)
JMS: What are the odds that you would get more dopes this way Ray Bradbury (1)
than by the present system? Raymond (1)
HERBERT: [Laughs] I'm willing to gamble. Now I'll tell you Research (1)
something interesting in MY reading of history: Every time we have Rice (1)
pulled the lid off the human desire to govern our, own affairs, to be Richard Shaver (1)
free of government - we've had a renaissance of some kind. We've Robert Bloch (1)
had a social -renaissance, we've had a political renaissance, an Robert A. Heinlein (1)
artistic renaissance. Every time in history we've unleashed this, Robert Bloch (1)
we've gone forward by leaps and bounds. So I'm saying, "All right, Robert E. Howard (1)
Robert Silverberg (1)
this is what history says to me. So why don't we do it again?" That's
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what I'm playing with in. the seventh Dune book, moving toward
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showing the kind of governments that finally evolve out of the
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situation I have created. Sam Merwin Jr. (1)
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JMS: In Dune, written in the early '60s, you were one of the first to question the danger of modifying Stranger In a Strange Land (1)
the ecology of a particular environment to try to "improve" human conditions. T. O'Conor Sloane (1)
HERBERT: Let me give you a little example THE (1)
on that one. About 20 years ago the U.S. and
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West Germany pooled their resources -- well,
Terry Prachett's Diskworld (1)
we put in most of the bucks and the people -
and went into North Africa, and all across The New Chamber Music Society (1)
most of the southern veldt of the Sahara. We The Psychotechnic League (1)
dug a lot of tube wells - we drilled them, put The Tonight Show (1)
pumps on them and brought water up. We Theodore Sturgeon (1)
did a good thing and then we walked away Thorne Smith (1)
from it, more or less. Technologically we
Three Mesquiteers (1)
sure as hell walked away from it.
Toka (1)
What happened was that they had more
Tom Mix (1)
water and more grazing areas. More arable
land was opened up, more cattle were put on Topper (1)
the land, and the population grew to equal the Two Worlds of Jennie Logan (1)
new food supply. Then about five years ago, U.N.C.L.E. (1)
the rainfall, cyclic rainfall, decidedly Uhura (1)
decreased. Three years ago it went, practically dry. Of course the water table went down much Unknown (1)
faster because they were pumping. Right now as we sit here talking, 2,000 people a day are dying in
Virginia Wolf (1)
that area. You can't go in and fix one thing to make everything all right in a complex situation. It's
William (1)
like an internal combustion engine. If there is only one thing wrong you may happen on the one
Willy Ley (1)
thing that fixes it. But chances are much larger that by just doing one thing you create other
problems you're going to have to adjust. And you have to keep adjusting until you create a balance. Wonder Stories (1)
For instance, one of the side effects of what we did in some of those North African villages was Xanth (1)
that we broke down the social system. Women previously went to the well for water, which they Yorker (1)
carried back on their heads, and the well was where they solved all their community problems. By aliens (1)
piping water into the houses we cut off that link in their society and all hell broke loose. There were
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family feuds, murders, all kinds of things that had never occurred in these places, in that particular
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way, ever before. The Green Revolution was another, similar con game. We went in with a
technologically based system into primitive countries, and where before they had depended on astounding (1)
manure and animals to pull their plows and that sort of thing, we made them dependent on special audio (1)
soil additives and special seed stock which was, by the way, very vulnerable to disease. banned (1)
JMS: In Dune one of the groups is trying, through genetic manipulation and selective breeding, to
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produce a mental superman, a Kwisatz Haderach, who can see and predict the course of future
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history, guiding humanity along the best path for its development. But in Children of Dune, the
hero's son, after achieving a state of radically expanded consciousness, says, "There.is no Kwisatz books (1)
Haderach." cartoonist (1)
HERBERT: You know what we're discussing, don't you? catwoman (1)
We're discussing prescience, prediction, and free will. Very charlie jackson (1)
old ideas. I started analyzing what people really mean when classics (1)
they use these words. In the first place, and I've said this time
comic book (1)
and again, if I were to hand you right now an exact and
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unswervable heartbeat-by-heartbeat prediction that nothing
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could change your future or what's going to happen to you
from now to the moment of your death, your life would be doc (1)
instant replay, an absolute and utter bore. You'd be sitting don wilcox (1)
there at this instant saying: "Well, next he's going to say..." e. e. "doc" smith (1)
You'd know it all. Eighty tedious years if you're unlucky. Ten ean-Claude Forest's Barbarella (1)
if you're lucky. That's why I blinded the hero in the second east wind coming (1)
book. He doesn't need his eyes. He knows everything that is
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going to happen. He chose to put himself on that monorail.
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What most people want when they talk about futurism -- all
the companies that hire me to play futurist for them -- they
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don't want the future, they want now locked in. FDR, he did feminist satire (1)
it. In 1933 he appointed a committee called the Brain Trust. They were given the primary job of fiction (1)
"determining" what the course of technological development and innovation would be for the next 25 final frontier (1)
years and what influence this would have on our lives. What had they not come up with? That's the first future history (1)
fascinating thing. Faster-than-sound travel, transistors, antibiotics, atomic power, World War II, are
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just a few small items that these Brain Trusters missed. What does this say to us? It says that if you
five to the future (1)
look at history carefully the surprises are the things that turn us upside down as a society. Asimov in
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his Foundation Trilogy has the Second Foundation, which can predict the course of the future, and he
has his character the Mule in there, his wild card, but again totally within scientifically predictable free (1)
norms. Horseshit! free SF ebooks (1)
What technology does to us is distribute the wild cards farther and farther afield. Because really free chapter (1)
what's going on is that the amount of energy that can be aimed and released is getting greater and free science fiction (1)
greater and falling into the hands of smaller and smaller groups. The availability of this energy is free science fiction ebooks (1)
also being disseminated all through this society. Something I proved conclusively in my research for
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White Plague. I got on the horn and I started calling suppliers of equipment I would need to engage
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in recombinant DNA research myself in my basement. I introduced myself only as Dr. Herbert. I
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didn't elaborate. You know, what's the difference between a Doctor of Letters and a Doctor of
Medicine? Anyway, I asked, "How, does my purchasing department get your XR 21?" Their reply futurism (1)
was, "When your check has cleared, we will ship." Anything I wanted. glass (1)
Now does that mean I want to clamp a lid on it? No way! That would only drive it underground golden age comics (1)
and make a black market, which is what we do with hard drugs. We create a black market. A very graphic novel (1)
profitable black market by the way, which can buy the inviolate Briefcases of diplomats, buy the heroes (1)
police force of an entire major city or enough of it that it makes no never mind. You know what
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happened to the heroin the cops seized in The French Connection? It vanished from the police
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property room in New York City. You can't control these things with a lid. In fact if you try, like a
pressure cooker, you only create dangerous, explosive pressure. humorous scifi (1)
Survival of the species depends on adaptability, and that depends on variability, variation. I think interview (1)
that big government is one of the major dangers in our world. It tends to homogenize a society, and john carter (1)
our strength is in our variations. The bigger it is, the worse it is. Small governments, small societies johnny mayhem (1)
-- developing their own mores, their own social systems, their own people, going their own ways to a jungle king (1)
limit -- do not endanger their neighbors. I hope to God we get off the planet soon, because that's
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what will happen in space. The difficulty of communication across space at our present level of
technology dictates that if we get off this planet with a viable breeding population of humans, and if ka-zar (1)
they scatter into different directions, each group is going to develop in its own way. Variation means ken maynard (1)
the species will survive. And that's what I'm addressing in the Dune books. king of the dinosaurs (1)
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JMS: You said earlier that your original vision of the Dune
saga encompassed only the material in three volumes lost worlds (1)
culminating with Children of Dune. Why did you write majel barrett (1)
more? matt baker (1)
HERBERT: I had a character who wouldn't get out of my metaphysics (1)
head. it fascinated me to think of what kind of a society would monster movies (1)
develop if it was under the thumb of one individual for 3,500
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years. You know, it's kind of like an amplification of the
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Pharaonic dynasties but all in one dynasty. So I had that
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character firmly in mind. It wouldn't get out. So I said,
"Okay, here's your society after 3,500 years. What happens? occult fiction (1)
What has happened? What do we become?" I was also on (1)
questioning another major premise: that we know what peace original spock (1)
is. And yet for that to be true, every person would have to other worlds science fiction (1)
know themselves in the classical sense. Every Person would, paperbacks (1)
have to know: "Why am I doing this? What are my motives?
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What is my unconscious direction?" Well, that is a big issue,
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you know. A much bigger issue than people generally realize. So I'm saying, "All right, you think
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you know peace and what it would mean and you think you know what the future can bring. Here's a
guy that's going to give it to you for 3,500 years and enforce it. The only violence is his. Experience prohibited Tarzan novel (1)
it for the term of the book, and see how you like it." It's a little demonstration project like 1984. publisher's weekly (1)
And all of these premises are the same premise when you come right back to it. That evolution pulp heroes (1)
cuts off right here. And this is the destiny of humankind, not a death wish, in my books. That's what pulp writer (1)
I'm playing with in the seventh book, moving toward showing the kind of government that finally
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evolves out of the situation I've been creating.
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I've been playing these games all along. Not popular games. But obviously there are 15 million
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people worldwide who have said, "Hey, this is interesting." So I have an audience out there. And
I'm talking to them, saying, "Take another look at a these precious premises upon which we have savage (1)
based our governments and our ideas of leadership. Let's take a good, long, hard look at things. Do science fiction television (1)
they really work or do we continue to make mistakes - the same mistakes over and over and over? science fiction adventure (1)
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Long before I met him in the early 1970s, Robert Bloch made an off-the-cuff sheena (1)
quip at his own expense that stuck. So that you could read any science fiction spirituality (1)
or horror movie magazine and in profiles of him encounter the following. spy (1)
"Horror writer Robert Bloch says he has the heart of a little child - in a jar, on
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his desk."
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the Foundation series (1)
He had the face of a mortician and a ghoulish twinkle in his eye, and was so
soft spoken you had to listen carefully, or you would miss the rapier-thrust of his the Lensmen series (1)
lightning wit. the Shaver Mystery (1)
the Yesterday Machine (1)
Here is an example. At one time, and likely they still do (tradition dies hard with the emperor (1)
futurists), the Los Angeles Science Fantasy Society (LASFS) held an annual the spirit (1)
Fanquet to fete any members who had sold their first story to a science fiction they'd rather be right (1)
magazine, book publisher, or anthology. three hearts and three lions (1)
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And as you may have guessed, long ago in my youth, it fell my lot that I was
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one of two members who were so honored (I for my first book, the erotic
science fiction novel, Season of the Witch). (Out of discretion, I shall not drag time machine (1)
the name of the other honoree into this sordid story.) time machines (1)
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Someone had told me that we were each expected to make a few remarks transgender science fiction (1)
about our book. What led me to decide it would be appropriate to talk about the travel (1)
origins of my erotic work, and that of most erotic writers, in our sexual travel through time (1)
fantasies, I can, alas, at this late date no longer recall. Nor can I recall just how
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a 20 minute speech (for which I made copious notes) and "a few words"
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became conflated in my youthful brain. Writing this now, and reading it, as it
were, over my own shoulder, it seems blatantly demented. watch (1)
watch free (1)
(Leaving out the part about the man who rushed up to Barry Gold and myself, weird west (1)
waving a barber's knife in our faces and spouting something utterly incoherent weird westerns (1)
as we left my apartment for the Fanquet, and especially leaving out how I western movies (1)
managed to divert the man and send him back happily to his place of
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employment - which we then saw was a barber shop (apparently, he had
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wanted us to come in and try his handiwork) - I will hasten on to the Fanquet
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itself and Robert Bloch who appears in the very next paragraph of what is
becoming another interminable JMS anecdote.)
FOLLOWERS
As my fate would have it, Robert Bloch had been asked to be the toastmaster Followers (6)
at this particular Fanquet (which was a thrill), because he was a writer who had
also "graduated" into the profession as a member of a science fiction fan club.
And he had graciously accepted the position. He no doubt introduced the event Follow
in his usual adroit and courtly manner. Blochian witticisms must have been
enjoyed by all.
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Then my turn came. I stood and gathered my five pages of notes to begin ▼ 2017 (2)
speaking. (Up to this point everything is a blank, after this point it is all to ▼ May (1)
mercilessly clear.) FIVE TO THE FUTURE - Only .99 for a limited
time!
Just exactly how I thought people who had come to eat good food and have a ► March (1)
good time with friends - and show their regard for two fellow fans who had
"broken into the big time" as professionally published authors - would react to a ► 2016 (8)
frank discussion, over dessert, of sexuality, masturbatory fantasies, and how ► 2015 (33)
these fantasies fueled the underpinnings, activities, and imagery of erotic ► 2014 (46)
novels, is a mystery to me.
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As I reached the half way point in my remarks, it began to dawn on me that ► 2012 (5)
some people seemed a bit taken aback, others had croggled expressions on ► 2011 (9)
their faces, and some were eying others a bit uncertainly - and almost no one ► 2010 (5)
really seemed to be on-board with what I was saying.
Sitting near me was Jane Gallion, a woman easily 50 times braver and more
capable than I in every way. She had just sold an erotic novel of her own
(Biker), and I turned to her and appealed for support. "Jane, you've written one
of these things. Don't the scenes come from your masturbatory fantasies?" I
mean, holy smoke, talk about putting a friend on the spot!
Jane, choosing what I now know to be the wiser course, shrunk down in her
chair and muttered something noncommittal. (After all she had to look those
folk in the eye every week at the club.)
I know I troupered "bravely" on, finished the entire speech, and sat down. I
don't have the sense there was much applause. More like stunned and
disbelieving silence.
Then Robert Bloch stood and returned to the podium. He looked out over the
audience and in his deliciously mordant voice declaimed. "I never had a wet
dream. I had a dry dream once. But I told it to Frank Herbert and it became
Dune."
He broke up the house, relieved the tension, and he certainly broke me up.
Jean Marie Stine

Co-Publisher
Futures-Past Editions
author, Herstory & Other Science Fictions, ebook and paperback.
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