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Conclusions
The impact of relative density (molecular weight) on the performance of a centrifugal compressor was studied by
performing a series of computer simulations. Based on the simulation results, it is found that:
1. For the same feed condition, compression ratio, compressor speed, the flow rates must decrease as the relative
density decreases, and will eventually approach a surge condition.
2. For the same feed condition, compression ratio, compressor speed, as the relative density increases, the flow rate
increases which results in more power consumption.
3. For the same feed condition and rate, and compression ratio, the compressor speed decreases with molecular
weight but as expected, the power requirement increases.
4. The PR EOS and BWRS EOS produced the same simulation results
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Series, Norman, Oklahoma, 2001
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Moshfeghian, M., Bothamley, M., and Lilly, L.L., “Feed gas molecular weight affects performance of centrifugal
efficiency,” Oil and Gas J., May 10, 2008
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Dear Sir,
Thank you very much for this article.
We have high stage sour gas injection compressors (Reciprocating Type)( 4stages ) . Could you please advise
what will happen if the molecular weight change on reciprocating type compressors? Because the compressor is
designed for 20.62 MMSCFD with a design MW of 29 and design suction pressure of 355 psig. But now we are
operating at a suction pressure of 310 psig and molecular weight of 24 and the capacity is only 16 MMSCFD.
We don’t know whether the reciprocating compressor capacity is decreased by decrease in gas MW or decrease in
suction pressure?
R. DEEPAK
Process Engineer
PM Department
Abu Dhabi Oil Co. Ltd., ( Japan )
Abu Dhabi
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Dear Deepak,
a positive displacement compressor is insensitive to gas composition changes and system resistance. therefore
there should not be any decrease in throughput of the compressor.
So the decrease in throughput may be due to some internal mechanical problem like:-
1. Valve losses
2.Piston ring leakages
3.Packing leakage.
4.’Dead Volume”.
5. Less RPM of compressor.
Regards
Abhimanyu Dagla
Production Engineer
ONGC India
In addition, the suction pressure is also less, which will result in high compression ratio, and lower volumetric
efficiency, and thus lower throughput.
You can contact me with the complete details of your recip compressor.
it includes
1. design conditions- pressures/temperatures, efficiency, compression exponent/flow rate/ BHP
2. operating conditions- pressures/temperatures, efficiency/compression exponent/flow rate/BHP.
Abhimanyu Dagla
Production Engineer
Oil and Natural Gas Corporation Limited, India.
And, lastly, you can consider changing orifice plate because the molecular weight has been changed. Less the
Molecular weight, less will be the pressure drop across orifice, and vice versa.
regards
Abhimanyu Dagla
Production Engineer
Oil and Natural Gas Corporation Limited, India.
Dear Abhimanyu,
On a scale of 0-10…with 10 being most valuable, please confirm the value of providing real time density
information to improve the performance efficiency of axial and centrifugal compressors in Hydrocarbon Gas
service. Also, the concept of providing real time heating value information for turbines in service, where the heating
value of the fuel varies.
If there is promise here, I am interested in pursuing the evaluation and measurement of this concept. The
technology would be non-intrusive. I am an independant consultant who works with the Oil & Gas industry.
Please respond and thanks for your expertise.
Jon Cloy
Houston, TX
7. Lionel S says:
September 17, 2012 at 7:45 am
Item 4/ of the conclusion:
How is it possible to assume a constant feed condition (composition?) and an increase in molecular weight?
8. Lionel S says:
September 25, 2012 at 8:36 pm
dearsir
what is effect of high molucalar weight of gas on compresser power consuption and it can be controlled
Probably, a higher MW will be assosiated with a higher head generation and higher power consuption?
“3 -For the same feed condition and rate, and compression ratio, the compressor speed decreases with molecular
weight but as expected, the power requirement increases.”
Vendor compressor curves show that for same actual flow and same head, the required speed is reduced as the
moleculare weight increases. For lower molecular weight, the required speed is increased. For both cases, the
power requirement remains almost not changed.
“3 -For the same feed condition and rate, and compression ratio, the compressor speed decreases with
molecular weight but as expected, the power requirement increases.”
Dear Sir,
I would like to have more specific data on how the surge limit / capacity is affected by the change in molecular
weight. We have a compressor application under commissioning where the mol weight will be 21 at start of plant
and gradually over a period of one week, the mol weight will reduce to the specified value of 17. The permanent
operation of compressor will be with mol weight as 17.
In such case, I am interested in knowing how the surge line should be drawn during site test – whether based on
21 or on 17. Which will be safer? What would be the method for commissioning such a service?
Suhas Lonakadi
kind regards,
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As I read article above, question is if a centrifugal compr is designed for 17 MW gas of say 60000 lb/hr rate, for a
DP of 45 psi, should it be able to process gas of same rate at MW of 30 with same DP? Will efficiency, stagewise
compression ratio etc remain same? Tell me what you can. thanks
With fixed inlet condition,suction pressure, temperature and fixed outlet pressure, with only change in
molecular weight of feed (feed composition) the change is power is like, if molecular weight is increasing
then power requirement will be decreasing.
Is it right, if not than explain, please.
what is the effect of inlet gas density variation on the thrust load of centrifugal compressor
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Thanks in favor of sharing such a good opinion, pareagraph is nice, thats why i
have read it entirely
I will like to know how, Using a positive displacement reciprocating compression, how the entire process of its
operations can be establish using the appreciation and understanding of thermodynamic
Sir,
I want to calculate the minimum molecular weight at which the compressor can run without surging.
It would be very helpful if you suggest any material where i can find the way to calculate it
Regards
Y Bhargav Ram
Sir,
in the introduction to case 2, you have used the term mass flow as 1000 kmol/h. That should instead be termed as
molar flow. This is necessary because though molar flow may remain the same, mass flow through the compressor
will vary with molecular weight and using the terms interchangeably will lead to confusion.
It is also for this reason only that the compressor power increases with molecular weight, even after reduction in
speed, as the mass flow through the compressor increases.
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I have an important question about consumed power in compressor, I read in this article that the mentioned power
increases with molecular weight i.e higher molecular weight needs higher power, but when I tried different
composition in Hysys, I found that higher molecular weight needs lower power. Of course with the same feed
conditions (pressure and temperature) and same molar flow rate.
Are my calculations right or not, and please explain the reason of any result.
I know that mass flow rate will increase with molecular weight, yet I have noticed that the consumed power in
compressor depends on volume flow rate not mass flow rate.
If somebody helps me in this issue, I will appreciate it so much.
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We have Steam turbine driven CO2 centrifugal compressor 2 casings (LP/HP) with 2 stages in each Casing.
Recently abnormal decrease in 3rd stage (HP) discharge temperature observed with increase in pressure. Temp
reduced from 180 deg C to 140 deg C and pressure increased to 6 bar g.
Correspondence with OEM indicated that Labyrinth seal between 3rd and 4th stage might have damaged which is
causing low temp (40 deg C) 4th stage suction gas to mix with 3rd stage discharge gas. There is a cooler between
3rd stage discharge and 4th stage suction. Also pressure increase is occurring due to mixing of cold gas. We have
also noticed low through put from the compressor, means some thing has happened.
I have few queries regarding understanding of this theory and need your expert opinion.
1) Is it possible for 4th stage gas to travel back to 3rd stage through damaged labyrinth, when pressure of 4th
stage will be slightly lower due to piping/cooler pressure drop?
2) Even is gas travelling from 4th to 3rd stage suction, it is mixing after the impeller tip. Will discharge pressure of
3rd stage increase when gas is travelling through diaphragm?
3) Is there any other cause of decreasing the 3rd stage discharge temp and increase of pressure?
In past we have faced issues with scaling inside this HP casing between stages, due to process issues.
Need your urgent and kind reply so that proper actions can be taken.
Dear Sir,
Thanks for wonderful article.
I have a query regarding our Centrifugal compressor. What will be the effect of specif gravity of gas in flow. For
example if I achieved 175000 Nm3 of flow with S.g. of 0.95 what will be the minimum flow with s.g. of 0.54
considering the suction and discharge pressure is same.
Dear Sir,
Thanks for wonderful article.
I have a query regarding our Centrifugal compressor. What will be the effect of specif gravity of gas in flow. For
example if I achieved 175000 Nm3 of flow with S.g. of 0.95 what will be the minimum flow with s.g. of 0.54
considering the suction and discharge pressure is same. Would we get more flow with less s.g.??
Sir,
My Questions
1. If the centrifugal compressor is measured in Kg/hr instead of mol/hr. On what reason compressor load is
increasing, is it because of increase in mass flow/volume flow.
‘For the same feed condition and rate, and compression ratio, the compressor speed decreases with molecular
weight but as expected, the power requirement increases.’
Sir,
My Questions
1. If the centrifugal compressor is measured in Kg/hr instead of mol/hr. On what reason compressor load is
increasing, is it because of increase in mass flow/volume flow.
‘For the same feed condition and rate, and compression ratio, the compressor speed decreases with molecular
weight but as expected, the power requirement increases.’
Dear sir,
Thank you for your articles.
I am a beginner and I want to know the behavior of temp. and pressure at equal conditions of sour gas (h2s+co2)
and sweet gas(methane, ethane etc) when compressing to 4600psi.
what happen if suction temperature increase where all suction pressure ,pressure ratio,feed composition are
same?
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