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port and gaining compliance factor (CF) credit (i.e., negative CF) for minimization can be performed by generators and loads submitting
the CA. The side effects include, as pointed out by the discussers, that their bids (incs and decs from the contracted power) and the central-
it may unduly stress certain transmission paths and cause unscheduled ized Optimal Power Flow providing the least-cost solution. The re-
tie-line flows (i.e., inadvertent net interchange). It is noticed that cur- sulting cost of losses can be then allocated to the contracts on the
rently there is no NERC standard in place to penalize a CA for doing point-to-point basis using e.g., scaled-down marginal loss factors (ob-
so, and contrarily, the NERC CPS 1 standard actually awards this kind tained as a by-product of OPF solution) or by tracing the flow of power
of act. Of course in practice, one would not initiate control action that in the network [11, 12]. An alternative way of loss allocation to multi-
would stress transmission paths. lateral trades, using a coordination mechanism rather than a centralized
Second, the discussers introduced the concept of ACE statistical de- OPF, has been suggested in [5]. By comparison finding the least-cost
pendency. This is a very good point, but unfortunately it was not con- allocation, when using the approach proposed in the paper,1 would re-
sidered when we were designing the control logic. We would like to quire permuting all the possible allocations which is obviously an ab-
run more simulations to investigate this issue, but unfortunately we did surd.
not have enough time prior to the deadline of this closure. Thus, the general conclusion seems to be that the important contribu-
As to the shape of the threshold used for the CPS2 control, no opti- tion of the paper1 is in providing an additional insight into the problem
mization technique was used to select it. It was selected based upon a rather than proposing a practical loss allocation scheme.
simple idea that the threshold should be “looser” at the very early stage
of a ten-minute period. Note that the progressive ACE is equal to the
raw ACE at the starting point of a ten-minute period, and then it starts F. D. Galiana and M. Phelan, IEEE Trans. Power Systems, vol. 15, no. 1,
to smooth out gradually. pp. 143–150, February 2000.
Again, the authors are grateful to the discussers for their valuable
supplement to the paper.1
Closure to Discussion of “Allocation of Transmission Losses
to Bilateral Contracts in a Competitive Environment”
M. Yao et al., IEEE Trans. Power Systems, vol. 15, no. 2, pp. 852–857,
May 2000. Francisco D. Galiana and Mark Phelan

Discussion of “Allocation of Transmission Losses to We thank Dr. Bialek for having taken the time and effort to read our
Bilateral Contracts in a Competitive Environment” paper1 and for his comments. Before addressing the specific criticisms
raised, it is necessary to differentiate between loss allocation and loss
J. W. Bialek dispatch. We bring up this comparison as our paper1 deals primarily
with the former topic, while the thrust of the discussion refers to issues
in loss dispatch, a topic marginally related to loss allocation.
The authors are to be congratulated for their interesting contribution Loss dispatch is the mechanism whereby a power system generates
to the restructuring debate. I would be grateful if the authors could transmission losses. In many systems, this function is performed by
comment on the following point. a single generator or, more generally, by a group of generators, each
Tables I and II clearly show that, if their methodology is used, the supplying a fraction of the total losses. In its more elaborate form,
total loss in the network, Ploss , is dependent on the order in which the loss supply is an inherent part of the optimal power flow dispatch that
transactions are processed and the choice of the generator covering the implicitly accounts for transmission losses and minimizes operational
costs. Loss dispatch, whether optimal or sub-optimal, directly influ-
losses for each contract. Using the dc load flow model, the loss should
ences power generation and flows and, therefore, transmission losses
be about 18 MW (squared net flow times the resistance) and such a re-
and generation costs.
sult is obtained when generator 1 supplies all the loss—see Case B in
Allocation, in contrast to supply, has no impact on transmission
Table II. In this case the extra generation of 18 MW creates a counter-
losses or generation costs. It is merely an accounting scheme that
flow against the dominant line flow thus reducing the loss. Any other
assigns responsibility among the system loads, generators, or bilateral
loss allocation creates a higher total loss as illustrated in Tables I and II.
contracts for a fraction of the calculated or measured system losses.
The general conclusion is therefore that depending on the assumption
This assigned fraction serves to invoice the various system users for
about the loss allocation procedure, the proposed scheme may produce
a share of the total losses so as to reimburse those units that generate
a higher loss than the necessary minimum, with the increase as high the actual losses. The allocation step is not required if the system is
as 47% for Case B, Table I. This is clearly unacceptable as an efficient dispatched at minimum cost subject to the full network constraints. In
market should maximize the societal benefit. With the contracts fixed, this case, the nodal prices used to pay generators and charge loads,
this means that the losses (or their cost) should be minimized. If the implicitly account for network location differences, congestion and
traders are free to chose where to buy their losses from, without a suit- losses. Allocation becomes indispensable when power systems are
able coordination mechanism, then their choice may not minimize the dispatched sub-optimally, as with the merit order method in which
total cost of losses. losses are initially neglected to determine the clearing price and the
However one should not forget that there is no such a thing as a
pure bilateral market. There is always a need for a balancing market
(this may be in a form of a loss ancillary service), to match exactly Manuscript received November 4, 1999.
the demand (including losses) with generation. In such a market loss F. D. Galiana is with the Department of Electrical Engineering, McGill Uni-
versity, Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
M. Phelan is with CAE Electronics Ltd., Montreal.
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Manuscript received September 20, 1999.
J. W. Bialek is with the University of Durham, England. 1F. D. Galiana and M. Phelan, IEEE Trans. Power Systems, vol. 15, no. 1, pp.
Publisher Item Identifier S 0885-8950(00)11314-8. 143–150, February 2000.

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base generation levels. A loss supply strategy must then be defined imal changes in bilateral contracts or load levels. Moreover, for a given
by the pool independently of the merit order dispatch, to specify how contract trajectory, the integration over all infinitesimal increments also
losses are generated (via a single slack or distributed slack buses). gives unique and exact results. What Table I illustrates is that even in-
Once selected, the supply strategy plus the base generation levels cremental methods contain an element that leads to nonuniqueness in
set the conditions defining the losses, subsequently found through a the final allocation of losses. In this case, such an element is the depen-
load flow calculation. The aim of allocation techniques is to take the dence of the allocation process on the path of variation of the contracts.
already calculated losses and distribute them in a “fair” manner among This is a reasonable conclusion, given the highly nonlinear nature of
the generators or loads. Note however that loss allocation cannot the loss function that makes the allocation process nonconservative. If
minimize or in any way influence losses or the cost of generation since the trajectory of the contracts is known, the results are unique, how-
these quantities are pre-determined by the loss supply scheme and the ever if the path is unknown, then the paper recommends a uniformly
merit order base generation. linear variation from zero to the specified transaction levels. Of course,
There is however a more general fundamental difficulty with loss since they follow no path of integration, the commonly used “one-shot”
allocation that cannot be over-emphasized, namely, that no method methods directly estimate the allocation levels from the final load flow
can be said to distribute losses in a perfectly fair manner. Because results only. This calculation is however performed independently of
of the nonlinear nature of the loss function, it is mathematically im- how the final operating point was reached, ignoring its temporal evolu-
possible to separate the total losses among generators or loads in a tion. Whether loss allocation depends or not on the temporal evolution
unique fashion, so fairness will always be open to challenge. One can of loads or contracts is open to debate, however an inescapable truth
argue that some techniques are “fairer” than others. For example, those is that all loss allocation methods posses an arbitrary element. Thus,
that consider network topology, parameters and operating point may be different “one-shot” methods yield different allocation results whose
better in some sense than those that allocate losses in a pro-rata manner. fairness will always be arguable.
However, even with more elaborate approaches, the inevitable fact that Tables I and II also illustrate the potentially important effect of the
losses are mathematically nonseparable cannot be overlooked. loss supply strategy on the system losses and, consequently, on the
We agree that, in general, bilateral contracts could co-exist with pool corresponding loss allocation results. This was examined by varying
supply and demand. In our paper,1 we develop a theory of loss alloca- the location of the loss supply bus associated with each contract, but it
tion where the losses for each bilateral contract are assumed to be pro- could have been tested with respect to different coordinated loss supply
duced by a single arbitrary generator, however, the theory also covers strategies.
the possibility that these losses are supplied by a single coordinated set Finally, we could not agree less with the discusser’s comment that
of distributed generators. Let the loss supply scheme be centrally coor- our method provides theoretical insight but is not practical. Given
dinated and pre-specified, say through a distributed slack bus character- a set of incremental transmission loss coefficients, (@Ploss =@Pi )js ;
ized by the vector  whose elements satisfy the condition, 0  k  1; i = 1; 1 1 1 ; n, and the loss supply vector, , the bilateral contract loss
n  = 1. Then, the incremental loss allocation for contract incre- allocation attributed to the bilateral contract GDij can be estimated
k=1 k
ment dGDij is given by, through as few as two iterations of equations (D.1) and (D.2). This cal-
culation is undoubtedly practical, relying primarily on the traditional
load flow and incremental loss coefficients.
dLij = nj 0 i dGDij (D.1) We thank Dr. Bialek again for his discussion and for this opportunity
to clarify a number of issues.
k k
k=1
where, as shown in the paper, the parameters i can be found from
1
the well-known incremental transmission loss coefficients, Discussion of “Large Scale Hydrothermal Optimal
i = 1 0 @Ploss (D.2)
Power Flow Problems Based on Interior Point Nonlinear
@Pi s Programming”
This type of coordinated loss supply implies that the bilateral contracts
would not have the freedom to choose their loss suppliers, but would be Marcelino Madrigal and Victor H. Quintana
restricted to those generators designated by the pool and defined by the
loss-supply vector . We re-emphasize however that, in our paper,1 loss
supply is a given, but, as the above equation shows, regardless of the The authors have presented a considerable step toward the solu-
loss supply strategy, the incremental theory of bilateral loss allocation tion of this very important and large complex nonlinear programming
is still valid. problem. The discusser would appreciate the authors comments on the
We agree that the intricate cost minimization mechanism suggested following three issues:
by Dr. Bialek could lead to “absurdly” many combinations, however A. It can bee seen, according to the row and column ordering
this hypothetical loss supply scheme has no bearing on the theory or the used by the authors, that inside the reordered correction equa-
intended applications of our paper. As argued earlier, cost minimization tion (23) only submatrix NxP Q has the same block structure
is part of loss supply, not of loss allocation. Nevertheless, it would be as that of the nodal admittance matrix. It is stated in the paper
prudent not to discount categorically the eventual existence of a loss “NxP Q consist of a 4T 2 4T diagonal block:,” it is under-
supply market with a number of competing sources. This is an area standable that the authors refer only the diagonal blocks of
that needs additional research. NxP Q , which also has off diagonal nonzero 4T 24T blocks
Regarding the results of Tables I and II, they merely highlight, albeit whenever there is a direct connection between any two nodes
in an intentionally exaggerated manner, the statement made earlier that
loss allocation is arbitrary and that no method could ever represent a
“true” or “exact” loss allocation. One exception to this rule is the family
Manuscript received January 18, 1999.
of incremental allocation methods, an example of which is the method M. Madrigal and V. H. Quintana are with the University of Waterloo, Waterloo
presented in our paper.1 In contrast to “one-shot” approaches, incre- ON, Canada.
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