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Reference Book 

Service Information Highlights  and Tech News
 

8-Speed Automatic Transmission Update


and
Service Best Practices

REFERENCE BOOK AND TECH NEWS


November 2012
Service Information Update  Reference Book 
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INTRODUCTION 
This month, we have two Master Tech programs. The first program will focus on the three
different 8-speed transmissions offered in Chrysler Group vehicles: the 8HP45, the 845RE,
and the 8HP70 (Fig. 1). We’ll give a brief overview of the 8HP45 before we talk about some
of the things you can look forward to in the near future.

Figure 1: 8HP45 (left), 8HP70 (middle), 845RE (right)

We’ll give a brief overview of the 8HP45 before we talk about some of the things you can
look forward to in the near future. We’ll then turn our attention to the 845RE. After
discussing what vehicles you’ll find the 845RE in, we’ll get into some of the internal
components and discuss some of the service implications, focusing on how it differs from the
8HP45 and 845RE. Then we’re going to spend time looking at the service procedures that
are unique and noteworthy.

Figure 2: 8HP70 Transmission

 
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After going over the three 8-speed Table of Contents:


transmissions in detail, we’ll turn our INTRODUCTION ..................................... 2
attention to the new for 2013 Ram 1500 8-SPEED
Stop/Start system. We’ll explore the TRANSMISSION OVERVIEW ................ 4
components that are unique to the
Stop/Start system first, and then we’ll 8-SPEED
take a look at the enablers that make the TRANSMISSION SERVICE .................... 6
system work. FUEL EFFICIENCY
IMPROVEMENTS .................................. 10
Naturally, we’ll discuss the service points
RAM STOP/START ............................... 12
you’ll need to know in order to keep this
system up and running properly. REPAIR ORDER PATH ......................... 14
WIADVISOR ............................................ 15
Lastly, we’ll cover some of the diagnostic
information you’ll need to service the THREE Cs AND SIX STEPS ................. 18
Stop/Start system. After that we'll have a VEHICLE NOT REPAIRED
short bonus program: Service Best WORKSHEET ......................................... 19
Practices. In that program, we'll look at TECH’S CORNER ................................... 21
some recommendations and new
technology that will affect the entire
service department.

Note that the Master Tech Reference


Book contains information not found in
this month's web program. However, you
will need the web program to answer the
questions in the online quiz.
This month's Tech News continues with a
Tech's Corner article. It's a good practice
to review the reference book as you
progress through the web course.  
   

 
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8­SPEED TRANSMISSION OVERVIEW
The 8HP45 was covered in-depth in the In mid-2013, the Ram 1500 will switch
June 2011 Master Tech program. If you from the ZF-built 8HP45 to the Chrysler-
missed that one, you’ll want to go back built 845RE, still paired only with the
and review the program. Here is a quick 3.6L V-6.
overview.
The 8HP45 and 845RE transmissions look
The 8HP45 is built by ZF in Germany. It nearly identical from the outside. It’s only
arrives in the U.S. and is installed as an when you get inside the case that things
assembly. This transmission was start to look different (Fig. 4).
launched in the 2012 model year in the
Dodge Charger and Chrysler 300. For the
2013 model year you’ll also find the 8HP45
in the Ram 1500.

Vehicles with the Stop/Start feature have


technologies that set them apart from
vehicles without the Stop/Start system.
(Fig. 3).

Figure 4: 8HP45 and 845RE internal


components

While some internal components will


share part numbers, most internal
components will not be interchangeable
between the 8HP45 and the 845RE.
For instance, while the clutch packs look
very similar, they are not interchangeable.
Figure 3: Unique Components of the Looking a little closer at the 845RE clutch
Stop/Start System packs, the D clutch has an extra pair of
separator and friction plates for improved
It should also be noted that the 8HP45 vehicle performance (Fig. 5).
only comes behind the 3.6L engine. The
845RE is based on the ZF-designed
8HP45, but it is built by Chrysler in
Kokomo, Indiana. In 2012, expect to see
this technology being used in more
Chrysler Group vehicles, including the
Jeep Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango,
and more.

Figure 5: Extra Clutch and Separator in the


D Clutch

 
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You’ll also notice a deeper oil pan on the 845RE used in the Grand Cherokee. This gives
not only increased fluid capacity, but also improves lubrication (despite the angle of
installation) (Fig. 6).

Figure 6: 8HP45 Oil Pan on Bottom, 845RE Oil Pan on Top

The ZF-built transmissions can only be While a few parts are interchangeable,
serviced to a certain extent while under most are not. The 8HP70 is a larger,
warranty. Refer to warranty bulletin D- heavier-duty version of the 8HP45.
12-21 for more information. The 8HP70
8-speed automatic transmission is built by Due to the increased size, you’ll find the
ZF in Germany and received as an majority of the internal components such
assembly. as rotating components, the case, and
output shafts (among others), are not
This new transmission will roll out in the interchangeable. The majority of the
2013 calendar year in the Ram 1500, Jeep service tools, as well as diagnostics, are
Grand Cherokee, and the Dodge Durango. common between the 8HP45 and the
8HP70.
The 8HP70 looks similar to the 8HP45,
being almost the same length, even
having similar components (Fig. 7).

Figure 7: 8HP70 Rear, 8HP45 Front

 
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8­SPEED TRANSMISSION SERVICE
The first procedure we’ll cover is the
manual park release. There are two
different procedures: one for cars, and one
for the Ram truck.

The Ram 1500 has the release behind this


trim panel, above the parking brake
release handle. To manually release the
park lock, push this lock aside before
pulling on the red strap (Fig. 8). The
lever will latch into the unlock position,
putting the transmission in neutral. Figure 9: Release This Clip Before
Pulling the Park Release Lever  

The lever is held upright by another clip.


This clip must be released before the lever
is pushed back down to engage park (Fig.
10).

Figure 8: Slide the Lock to Release the


Park Release Lever 

After sliding the lock to the side again,


the lever will snap back into place,
putting the transmission back in park.
Figure 10: Release This Clip Before
The procedure is a bit different on the Releasing Lever 
Charger and the 300. After removing the
trim piece, you’ll find the release lever; Only ZF 8- and 9-speed ATF can be used
don’t pull it just yet. You have to release in the 8-speed transmission. A note about
this clip before pulling the strap. (Fig. 9). fluid leak diagnosis: No transmission
If the clip is not released it will break, fluid additives, including leak detection
causing the lever to rattle. dye, can be used in the 8HP family
transmissions. With that in mind, the
transmission fluid used in the 8-speed
family glows under UV light already.
Keep this in mind when looking for other
types of fluid leaks as you could get a false
positive if transmission fluid is in the
area. 

 
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Speaking of fluid, the fluid check and fill When disassembling the transmission, it’s
procedures were covered in depth in our important to note that the gear train
June 2011 release for the 8HP45. It is the needs to be removed vertically. The
same procedure for the 845RE and 8HP70 drums are aluminum and are easily
with the exception of fluid volumes. damaged (Fig. 12).

The procedure for checking and filling the


fluid on an AWD Chrysler 300 or Dodge
Charger is a bit different. First, you’ll
need to remove the front propeller shaft to
gain access to the plug. Next, use
wiTECH to put the vehicle into Emissions
Rolls Test Mode while engaging the
necessary gears (Fig. 11).

Figure 12: The Gear Train Must Be


Removed Vertically

To avoid damaging the aluminum D


clutch drum and the P4 annulus drum,
use special tool number 10378 (Fig. 13).

Figure 11: Use the Emissions Rolls Test


While Checking Transmission Oil 

Then you can pull the plug to check the


level or top it off as needed. When you are
done, install the front propeller shaft and
be sure to manually disable the test mode
to avoid setting trouble codes.
Figure 13: Special Tool Number 10378
If the transmission needs to be removed
from the vehicle for service, be aware that Please note that the P1 carrier and P2
the transmission oil pan is made of a annulus snap rings are one-time use snap
composite material, not stamped steel. rings. During installation, use a flat-
blade screwdriver to coax the snap rings
Be sure the weight of the transmission is into the groove in the drum.
evenly supported on the lifting fixture or
damage to the transmission will occur. Next, we will go over how to set up the B
Before opening the transmission, it is clutch. This segment is meant to give you
important to note that a clean work area an overview of the procedure, refer to
is critical due to the very tight tolerances service information for the complete
in these transmissions. procedure. 

 
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The first measurement we need is the depth of the bore in the housing where the B clutch
sits (Fig. 14). This dimension represents the total area filled by the B piston and clutch
pack.

Figure 14: The Bore Where the B Piston and Clutch Sit

The second measurement is the height of the clutch pack after it has been compressed. The
pressure against strain gauge special tool number 10429 must match the specification given
in the service information (Fig. 15). We are using portions of special tool number 8901A
that was designed for the NAG1 transmission.

Figure 15: Clutch Pack Height Is Measured After Being Compressed

 
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The final measurement we need is the height from the B clutch piston to the oil pump
housing mating surface (Fig. 16).

Figure 16: B Clutch Piston to Oil Pump Housing Mating Surface Measurement

Subtract the B piston measurement and the clutch height measurement from the bore
depth and you have your end clearance measurement. We are looking for a clutch pack end
clearance between 1.26 mm and 1.67 mm. To adjust the clutch pack clearance within
specifications, the flange plate is available in different thicknesses. Select the appropriate
size. After replacing the flange plate, take the measurements again.

Besides the snap rings mentioned earlier, the oil pump bolts, the pump housing bolts, as
well as the valve body bolts are one-time use. Refer to service information for more detail.
A note about gear train end play: Because the oil pump housing bolts are one-time use
bolts, it is a good idea to use the old bolts while adjusting the end play. After the correct
end play has been established, use new bolts for the final installation of the oil pump
housing.
   
 
   

 
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FUEL EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENTS
There are two unique features introduced with the 2013 Ram truck that we’ll get into now.
Introduced with the 2013 Ram trucks is a thermal management unit (TMU) (Fig. 17).

Figure 17: Thermal Management Unit

The 8HP transmission family is such an efficient transmission there is a need for an
auxiliary heater to keep the transmission oil at the proper temperature, about 80°C
(176°F).
Engine coolant is carried back to a heat exchanger via coolant pipes. In this illustration,
the hoses and pipes have been color-coded to show the hot and cold portions of the system
(Fig. 18). The coolant pipes and heat exchanger are serviceable separately.

Figure 18: Coolant Pipes Are Part of the TMU System

 
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The second unique feature we’ll cover is When the engine is running, transmission
the hydraulic impulse storage (HIS) unit oil is pumped into the HIS accumulator
(Fig. 19). The HIS is a spring-loaded and is stored. A locking solenoid keeps
accumulator with a latching solenoid that the piston under tension until the piston
is part of the Stop/Start feature. is released. Spring pressure takes over
and the piston pushes the fluid out of the
HIS and into the transmission.

As soon as the engine is restarted, the


HIS is filled with fluid and ready for the
next cycle.

   
Figure 19: HIS Unit

 
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RAM STOP/START
New for the 2013 Ram 1500 is a All Stop/Start equipped vehicles have an
Stop/Start feature that turns off the absorbed glass mat (AGM) battery and
engine when the vehicle comes to rest, heavy-gauge cables, that are able to
restarting it automatically when needed. deliver higher amp loads consistently.
You’ll find a graphic in the reference book
that shows the different components in Naturally, the alternator needs to be
the Stop/Start system. We’ll cover some heavy-duty as well. This one is a 220-amp
of them now. alternator that provides greater charging
capacity immediately after auto-starts.
The powertrain control module (PCM) Inside the transmission, we have the HIS
calibration dictates when the engine will (Fig. 21). The HIS enables the
shut down and restart. This decision is transmission to build full line pressure,
based on brake pedal position, vehicle allowing a nearly instantaneous response
speed, and time stopped, among others. to the driver's input.

The DC-to-DC converter takes battery


voltage and steps it up to a higher voltage
to keep electrical features like the fan,
wipers, headlights, and audio system
going until the engine restarts (Fig. 20).
Figure 21: HIS Cutaway View

This completes our program on the 8-


speed transmissions. The November
Master Tech bonus program follows.

 
 
   
Figure 20: DC-to-DC Converter

Naturally, a system like this places a


considerable load on the starting and
charging systems.

The starter motor is a heavy-duty,


brushless design, better able to cope with
the demand placed on it.

 
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Stop/Start Components

 
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REPAIR ORDER PATH 
How many times have you been given a It all begins with the customer expressing
repair order to resolve a customer’s a concern to a service advisor who records
concern only to be unable to duplicate the it for the technician. Naturally, the more
problem? This month we have a bonus detail that is recorded the better.
program: Service Best Practices.
Currently, there are a few different ways
The first thing we’ll do is follow a repair this write-up process is handled, but a
order through the service department new consistent process is in development.
from the first contact with the customer, The next lesson will cover that new
through the technician, and on to the system.
point that the customer picks up the
vehicle. As part of this Service Best After the write-up process, the repair
Practices program, we’ll cover the new order is dispatched to the technician.
Service Advisor Dashboard system. This This can be handled in a few different
new repair order initiation system will ways as well, depending on the
streamline the write-up and repair dealership. Looking over a repair order
processes. when it is first assigned is the best way to
review the customer concern and ask
After exploring the Service Advisor questions about the concerns listed. In
Dashboard system, we’ll cover the two fact, the customer may still be there to
most basic and important aspects of the answer first hand.
repair process; the Six-step
Troubleshooting Procedure and the three At this point in the process, the first C
Cs. (the Concern) is in place. We’ll go into
more details related to the three C’s
The last topic in this bonus program shortly. Now it’s time to fix a car. During
covers the Vehicle Not Repaired Check the diagnostic and repair phase, it’s
Sheet. This check sheet helps to guide recommended to follow the Six-step
you through the inspection process so you Troubleshooting Procedure and document
can document everything and make sure this on the repair order.
all angles are covered.
After the concern is corrected, the
As part of our November Service Best completed repair order is returned to the
Practices program, let’s review the life of dispatcher or manager. From here, the
a repair order. This helps us to better repair order goes through various
understand the processes that will be processes that may include Warranty
discussed shortly. Reimbursement. We will finish our
program with some helpful hints when
submitting warranty claims for Trouble
Not Found concerns.
 
 
   

 
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WIADVISOR
In an effort to simplify the service write-up process and improve our customer satisfaction,
Chrysler Group has developed a new tool for service advisors called wiADVISOR (Fig. 22).
The wiADVISOR program will extend the wiTECH network that is currently installed in
your shop into the service drive. What’s the advantage of this new system?

Figure 22: wiADVISOR Welcome Screen

Currently, on average there are 15 wiADVISOR will soon be adding a feature


different steps performed from the time to assist the service advisor in accurately
the customer schedules an appointment to capturing the customer's concern by
when they sign the repair order. This asking questions based on the type of
doesn’t include things like following up issue. The answers to these questions
with the customer, checking parts-ordered will be included on the repair order to
status, talking to the technician, and so assist in diagnosis. The system also
on. allows for the service advisor to add
comments to the repair order.
The need for a more efficient, consistent,
and accurate write-up system is being
answered. wiADVISOR answers these
concerns by improving every step of the
write-up process. Keep in mind that the
screens you will be shown are prototype
screens, they may differ from what you'll
see in the future. Let’s look at how this
system works and how it affects
technicians.

 
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The wiADVISOR system includes a


wiTECH microPod that plugs into the
OBDII port (Fig. 23).

Figure 25: microPod Plugs into the


OBDII Port
Figure 23: microPod
If the customer has taken advantage of
An access point extends the dealership’s the online service scheduling capabilities,
dedicated service network into the service much of this information will be
drive, enabling the microPod to populated before the customer drives
communicate (Fig. 24). through the door.

The next step is to document the


customer’s concerns. The service advisor
will interview the customer as before, but
the wiADVISOR program utilizes a series
of drop-down menus to walk the advisor
through the process (Fig. 26).

Figure 24: Wireless Access Point

For up-to-date information on


recommended tablets, please access the
wiADVISOR Knowledge Base by logging
into the wiTECH Portal at:
http://portal.dcctools.com. Figure 26: Customer Concern Window

In practice, the customer is greeted by the


service advisor, who plugs the microPod
into the OBDII port (Fig. 25).
wiADVISOR pulls vehicle information
(such as VIN and odometer readings) from
the various computer systems in the
vehicle, key information from the VIP
report and other Chrysler Group
databases (such as customer information),
and information from the dealer
management system.

 
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Besides the consistent write-up process,


there are other advantages that the
service advisor, as well as the technician
will notice. Some of these are:

 The ability for the customer to


schedule appointments
electronically

 A VIN- and odometer-specific


maintenance menu to show
customers exactly what their
vehicle maintenance requirements
are at that visit.

 A function called Vehicle Systems


Vitals identifies any outstanding
recalls, Rapid Response
Transmittals, and available flash
updates

 Up-to-date service history at the


tap of a screen

 An optional subscription to
features like the Electronic Vehicle
Inspection Module, which provides
technicians with the ability to
perform inspections electronically

 A running estimate of repair costs

The wiADVISOR roll-out process has


already begun. If your dealership isn’t
using it yet, you’ll see it soon.

 
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THREE Cs AND SIX STEPS
From the technician’s perspective, there The third step is to analyze the
are few things that affect your day more symptoms. Are the symptoms related, or
than the three Cs and the Six-step did you discover something the customer
Troubleshooting Procedure. The six steps should be made aware of? The fourth step
ensure a proper and complete repair while is to isolate the cause.
the three Cs make sure everything is
documented. We’re going to lump these Use published service information to
together because they are completed at determine the cause of the concern. This
the same time. is where the second of the three Cs comes
in (the Cause). Write detailed notes of the
The first C (the Concern) is documented cause of the concern on the repair order.
by the service advisor (Fig. 27). This This will aid not only your warranty
information is the most important piece of administrator when the claim is being
information you will use when repairing prepared but also will provide important
the vehicle. details to Chrysler to help in improving
the quality of our products.

The fifth step is to repair the concern.


Now it’s time for the third C (the
Correction). You don’t have to write a
novel here, but you do have to make sure
you document clearly what was done to
correct the concern for the customer.

The final step in the Six-step


Troubleshooting Procedure is to verify
Figure 27: Concern Is Documented vehicle operation. This is where you circle
During Write-up back to the first step and try to reproduce
the concern under the same conditions the
Your job starts with the first of the six customer described.
steps, verify the concern. Always review
all of the information on the repair order
so you are reproducing this concern under
the same conditions that the customer
reported.

Step two is to determine any related


symptoms. Maybe the clunking noise
they are concerned about is related to the
uneven tire wear they didn’t notice.

 
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VEHICLE NOT REPAIRED CHECK SHEET
Sometimes technicians will simply not be The first portion in this section is for
able to address a customer’s concern, no documenting situations like this. There
matter how hard they may try. Many are situations when the concern cannot be
times, the technician will simply write duplicated. That’s what the second
TNF or something similar on the repair portion is for. It allows you to document
order and move on to the next job as that you checked the system(s) in
quickly as possible. question, checked for trouble codes,
Service Bulletins, Recalls, or rapid
This usually ends up with a frustrated response transmittals. You’ll also find a
customer and technician, and we all know place to document a call to the STAR
these vehicles come back at some point in center, or to document if other dealership
the near future anyway. In the event that personnel road tested the vehicle.
you were not able to duplicate a concern
for any reason, it’s a good idea to fill out The third portion in this section is for
the Vehicle Not Repaired Check Sheet. situations where the part is not available
Let’s look at the high points now. to repair the car. Fill out the appropriate
field to document the issue.
To access the check sheet, from the
Service tab in TechCONNECT scroll down The final section of the check sheet is to
to the Repair Information section. From document the final outcome. Record the
there, open the Other menu and open the mileage in and mileage out whether or not
Vehicle Not Repaired Check Sheet (Fig. the customer has been advised of the
28). situation, and the conclusion of the repair
order. Attach this check sheet to the
repair order.

It only takes a few minutes to complete


this check sheet but it can really pay off in
the end because everything is
documented.

Chrysler allows dealers to submit


warranty claims for Trouble Not Found
(TNF) diagnosis. All time allowance
Figure 28: Vehicle Not Repaired Check reimbursed is for Actual Time only. It is
Sheet Location imperative to properly document any
claim that requests reimbursement. The
The top portion is pretty self-explanatory, check sheet will allow the Warranty
but be sure to copy, word-for-word, the Administrator the ability to ensure that
customer’s concern onto the check sheet. the claim is properly documented so that
The next section of the sheet has three if authorization is required, individuals
reasons why the vehicle was not repaired; reviewing the claim can logically make
we’ll go over each of the three now. In the decision regarding reimbursement.
some cases there really isn’t a problem
with the vehicle, just a lack of
understanding on the owner’s part.

 
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The check sheet will allow the Warranty


Administrator the ability to ensure that
the claim is properly documented so that
if authorization is required, individuals
reviewing the claim can logically make
the decision regarding reimbursement.

In the near future, we will be providing


additional details regarding Warranty
Claim requirements. Additional
information can be located in the
Warranty Administration Manual
available on DealerCONNECT.

That completes the November Master


Tech bonus program. Be sure to see this
month’s web program for additional
information about this month’s topics.
Also, visit the Chrysler Academy
Learning Center site for training courses
that cover subjects related to these topics.

Please join us next month when the topic


is 2013.5 Diesel Powertrain Update.

Thank you for participating in the Master


Tech program.

 
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TECH’S CORNER 
In our Master Tech program for October, As you know, we also included a segment
Mopar Accessories and Performance in the October program on the new Mopar
Parts, we reviewed some of the new JK-8 conversion kit for the Jeep Wrangler
accessories available on Chrysler products Unlimited. Some of you said that you
such as the rear center tail light assembly enjoyed learning about the JK-8
with the race track graphic available on conversion and tips related to the process.
the 2013 Dodge Dart, the Mopar signal Others felt that JK-8 pertains more to
mirror kit, and the new digital brake body shop techs than to service
trailer controller available on the Dodge technicians. Another tech’s response
Durango and Jeep Grand Cherokee. indicated that there was too much on
installation of accessories, but went on to
say that the JK-8 installation info was
In reviewing your surveys for the October, just right. So, as you can see, we do
it appears that the program was well review your surveys. In fact, we also use
received with one technician telling us them to come up with future Tech News
that it contained “very interesting info on topics, which allow us to answer your
new products and installation.” Another specific concerns. So, please continue to
tech felt that addressing accessories and send in your ideas and suggestions.
modifications to Chrysler vehicles shows
the customer’s desire to customize and
upgrade a vehicle’s capacity. We agree,
and due to the popularity of these
accessories, in addition to offering a
Master Tech program on Mopar in
October 2011, we decided to produce
another one this October.

 
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Can you guess the cars below? You can put your answers in your surveys.

1)

2)

 
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