So been watching this yesterday... Happiness: Marxism vs Capitalism.

And well, what can I say,

Zizek was kinda rude sometimes, but Jordan is a reallly a mild and cute human being, he never
got upset, he seemed so tolerant to other people’s disapproval of his views. I am all in favour of
postmodernism and it’s the gendre I love the most, I mean Atwood it’s postmodernist, so is
Munro, and I really am a radical feminist, so lately been so upset on him, but he is really cute and
he kinda moderates my radical feminism. It seemed to me, maybe it is just me that Zizek was
kinda trying to make Jordan a fool… His attitude I mean, maybe it’s just me, but I am mad so do
not take me seriously. As always Jordan did not disappoint. To me this debate has a winner and
that is Jordan. He was brilliant, sorry Zizek, but no sorry.

“You have unfairly tasked me with three very difficult questions. I was very interested in your
comments about Christ’s atheism on the cross. That final moment of atheism, that’s something I
have never thought about in that way. It’s a very interesting thought because what it really ….it’s
an unbelievably merciful idea in some sense. That the burden of life is so unbearable and you
see in the Christian passion, of course, torture, unfair judgement by society, betrayal by friends
and then a low death. That’s about …as bad as it gets. Right? Which is why it is an archetypal
story. It’s about as bad as it gets. And the story that you describe points out that it’s so bad that
even God himself might despair about the essential quality of being. Right? Right. So that is
merciful in some sense because it does say that there is something that’s built into the fabric of
existence, that tests us so severely in our faith about being itself that even God himself falls prey
to the temptation to doubt. So that’s…ok now… There is a very large critical literature that
suggests that if you want to develop optimal resilience, what you do is lay out a pathway towards
somewhere better, someone comes in, they have a problem, you try to figure out what the
problem is and then you try to figure out what might constitute a solution. So you have a map.
And it’s a tentative map of how you get from where things aren’t so good to where they are better.
And then you have the person go out in the world and confront those things that they are
avoiding, that are stopping them from moving to that higher place. And there’s an archetypal
reality to that, you’re in a fallen state, you are attempting to redeem yourself and there is a
process by which that has to occur. And that process involves voluntary confrontation with what
you’re afraid of, disgusted by and inclined to avoid. And that’s works. Every psychological school
agrees upon that exposure therapy, psychoanalysts expose you to the tragedies of your past,
and redeem you in that manner, the behaviourists expose you to the terrors of the present and
redeem you in that manner, but there is a broad agreement between psychological schools that
that works. My sense is that we are called upon as individuals precisely to do that in our life. We
are faced by this unbearable reality, that you made reference to when you talked about the
situation on the cross, life itself is fundamentally - and this is a pessimism that we might share -
it’s fundamentally suffering and malevolence. But this is I think where we differ, I believe that the
evidence suggests that the light that you discover in your life is proportionate to the amount of
darkness that you are willing to forthrightly confront and that there is no necessarily upper limit to
that. So I think that the good that people are capable of it’s a higher good than the evil that people
are capable of. And believe me that I do not say that lightly, given that I know about the evil that
people are capable of. And I believe that the central psychological message of the biblical corpus
fundamentally it’s that. That’s why it culminates in some sense with the idea that it is necessary
to confront the devil and to accept the unjustness of your tortured mortality. If you can do that,
and that’s a challenge sufficient to challenge even God himself, you have the best chance of
transcending it, and living the kind of life that would set your house in order and everyone’s
house in order at the same time. And I think that’s true even in states like North Korea. ”

And now so that I won’t be mean and admire only Jordan, Zizek came with some fascinating
facts also, I never knew that historical oppressors knew that what they were doing was wrong but
were still doing it thinking it is for a higher cause, and that a Nazi general read Bhagavad Gita to
motivate himself and detach from the bad he was doing. And I never knew that Buddhist monks
were teaching the Japanesse in the Second World War to do the same thing and they were
supporting them…so terrible…Includind a Buddhist priest who in the 60 became very popular in
the West… like damn, people are not what they seem, seriously.. And to end up with a quote I

really love by Zizek, so that I appreciate him also a bit, a bit only: "the
true courage is
to admit that the light at the end of the tunnel is most likely
the headlight of another train approaching us from the
opposite direction"
Yes, Zizek I am a pessimist too...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsWndfzuOc4&t=8995s