0:00Skip to 0 minutes and 0 seconds JANE WINTER: Hello, everyone.

It�s Jane and

Yeasmin here with our latest video diary for the Planning for Learning course.
We�ve been enjoying reading your comments and we�ve picked out a few to discuss
now. And Yeasmin�s going to kick off.

0:14Skip to 0 minutes and 14 seconds YEASMIN MORTUZA: Thank you very much, Jane.
Our first comment comes from Clarissa, and Clarissa makes a really, really good
point about there being potentially a discrepancy between student and the
confidence they display through things like 5-3-1 or three piles, so the various
confidence tests that we have for students. So there may be a discrepancy between
the level of confidence that they tell us and their actual knowledge. And this is
actually a really important question. Thank you, Clarissa. So it raises the
question, you know, what do we do about there being a potential discrepancy? And
you can look at Step 1.9 for examples of the confidence test that Clarissa is
referring to.

0:59Skip to 0 minutes and 59 seconds OK, so firstly, what we want is really

important in a good formative assessment environment, that we nurture confidence
and accuracy. But those to may not arrive at the same time, and so we always start
with confidence because we need that confidence to be in place in order to develop
the accuracy. So the confidence should be actively nurtured, and in this case
maintained, because if students are confident enough to perhaps be overconfident in
what they know, it�s good that they�ve got that confidence. So we can then look at
things like the accuracy. But we need to retain the nurturing, and retaining the
confidence is absolutely key.

1:44Skip to 1 minute and 44 seconds And we do that by ensuring that the learning
motivation comes from a positive growth mindset. And so that they�re 100% happy to
address any gaps in their accuracy. So if they overestimated what they know, that
we�re able to redirect them, think again, have a look again, you know, let�s see
how accurate that is, and so that they�re able to fix that without taking a dent to
their level of confidence. And it comes down to things like being constructively
critical and celebrating transparency growth and courage and things like that
rather than celebrating getting the answer right the first time around. And that�s
a theme that will pop up again I think over the course of this video diary.

2:37Skip to 2 minutes and 37 seconds So I�m going to hand over to Jane for a
related comment from Siobhan. Over to you, Jane.

2:43Skip to 2 minutes and 43 seconds JANE WINTER: Yes, thank you very much for this
comment, Siobhan. She is worried that students need to be very thick-skinned if
we�re going to use examples of mistakes they�ve made to carry learning forward. Now
first of all, Siobhan, I want to say, yeah, we must always take account of
students� feelings and have that at our heart when we�re teaching. However, it
isn�t always going to be easy for them, is it? Learning, it can be painful and
difficult. And I think our students need to know that it�s not about being
humiliated or embarrassed or feeling ashamed of mistakes you�ve made, but it can be
difficult.

3:18Skip to 3 minutes and 18 seconds If you�re just banging your head against the
wall I�m never going to learn this, and challenging ideas you�ve already gotten and
changing the way you think about things isn�t easy, is it? So let your students
know that. However, when it comes to using their mistakes, it can be done if you�ve
created the right environment where students know that it�s a safe place to make
mistakes, and their motivation for doing what they do isn�t to get it right the
first time, but to grow and to learn, and that you�re all in it together. And it�s
about you modelling what it�s like to make mistakes and be wrong because they need
to know everybody makes mistakes. That�s how we learn.
4:04Skip to 4 minutes and 4 seconds You know in my class I go, wow, I never knew
that, I made a mistake, and now I�ve found something out. Let the children see�
obviously, I worked with younger children so slightly different for me. But that�s
what you�ve got to do whatever age group you teach. Even if you�re teaching adults,
let them see you make mistakes, too. You can anonymize the work and that can make
it less painful. Beware they will recognise each other�s handwriting, they might
recognise each other�s turns of phrase. You can also just have a word with each
child first� do you mind me using that?

4:36Skip to 4 minutes and 36 seconds You know, I think it�s really great, you�ve
done this, this, and this, but there�s a couple of teaching points I�d like to
make. And some children will actually welcome you sharing their work. So yeah, I
think it�s taking those several things into account. But yeah, I�m really glad to
Siobhan. You know, we must have our students� feelings at heart. However, in the
right environment it doesn�t cause pain, it�s a cause for celebration. So thank you
very much for that point. Back to you, Yeasmin.

5:07Skip to 5 minutes and 7 seconds YEASMIN MORTUZA: On a related point from Liz,
Liz noticed that when she gave her students the 5-3-1 approach, she noticed
something interesting. So just quick word� so the 5-3-1 approach is one of these
confidence tests. So do go and look that up if you need the background information.
And what she noticed was that her students initially wanted to tell her that they
were very confident in all areas of their learning. So I imagine they were showing
five fingers, which shows maximum level of confidence. However, after a little bit
of probing, she noticed actually they adjusted themselves to something more
accurate. And what she found is interesting was that they did that themselves.

5:53Skip to 5 minutes and 53 seconds And I think this goes back to the heart of
what it is that we�re nurturing and that actually sometimes our fears are bigger
than the students� fears, meaning we worried about how they may react to being
exposed and things like that, but actually, students naturally, have a natural wish
and desire to be authentic learners, because they�re at that stage in their lives
where everything is new, everything is being absorbed. They�re learning how to
learn. And so they are at that age where it�s all new for them and they don�t have
a fixed idea about how things should be done.

6:33Skip to 6 minutes and 33 seconds And so as Liz said, in her class when her
students realise, oh, it�s OK, I don�t need to pretend that I know it all, they
were happy to adjust themselves. And so if we remember that, the students are
helping us to help them, if you like, it should be relatively easier for us then to
work with that and to nurture even further. So thank you, Liz, for giving us this
story because I think it�s really important. It helps us to see that, actually, we
are in it together, that the students will help us to help them.

7:12Skip to 7 minutes and 12 seconds And in some ways, they are perhaps more ahead
of us with the confidence that we need to, you know, build our own confidence up to
match theirs as well. So thank you very much, Liz, for that. So I�m going to move
on to some of the teaching resources that have been shared up on Padlet, Step 3.12.
So over to you, Jane, for our first Padlet entry.

7:38Skip to 7 minutes and 38 seconds JANE WINTER: Yeah, this is by somebody who�s
not given us their name. They�re down as anonymous. A lovely, lovely example though
of a rich question in environmental chemistry. So, to what extent is carbon dioxide
a pollutant? So obviously, there�s lots of answers on both sides, and you can see
that could lead to lots of discussion with children bringing up different elements.
And that�s great. There is a step all about rich questions and this is a great
example of that. However, she also uses it as a continuum. So asks students, if
naught is carbon dioxide is not a pollutant at all and 100 is carbon dioxide is a
total pollutant, where do they stand on that continuum?
8:25Skip to 8 minutes and 25 seconds And one of the things I like that she does is
she allows her students to move as they develop their understanding. And that,
being able to physically move along the continuum line as a result of their
discussions I think is very valuable because it helps them to see how their
learning has changed and how that understanding has changed during the course of
the lesson. So I think that�s very valuable, too. Thank you so much for this,
anonymous. So you�ve got a couple of examples now, Yeasmin.

8:53Skip to 8 minutes and 53 seconds YEASMIN MORTUZA: I do indeed. Thank you,

Louise, for your beautiful concept map on cells. So Louise has incorporated a few
errors into her concept map. And the idea here is the students look for errors and
have a discussion tossed around that. By chance, we had another entry by an
anonymous teacher also looking at cells. And both of these share some similar
traits, and that is that the mistakes, the deliberate mistakes that have been
incorporated have quite a nice range. So some of them are easy mistakes to spot, so
things like all cells are the same size and shape, cells are flat. But you�ve also
got ones that are much tougher to figure out.

9:40Skip to 9 minutes and 40 seconds So you�ve got� that�s quite nice because it
means everybody can get something right. But you�ve got a range of discussion
topics going on there. And also, the ones that are more difficult would lead to
more extensive discussion as well. So I like that this can be used as a springboard
for those types of discussions. And it also an assessment for learning tool for the
teacher as well. So it�s a teaching tool and an assessment for learning tool. So
well done to both of you. We�ve got another, we�ve got another concept map from
another anonymous person. Over to you, Jane, discussing this one.

10:17Skip to 10 minutes and 17 seconds
It�s got some, it�s got some space and
comments as well. And again, there are
So we really like this. One thing that
recording, this be really nice cut out
JANE WINTER: Yes, we like this one on space.
some room for people to add their own
some errors in there for children to spot.
Yeasmin and I were saying before we started
as cards.

10:38Skip to 10 minutes and 38 seconds Can you imagine those statements and you get
a great big piece of paper for the children to start moving around� and I don�t
want that statement, or that statement, I don�t want it next to the sun, I want it
next to be Earth, for example� and room for them to write their own lines
connecting different ideas and words, and to write their own comment. So thank you
very much for this, another anonymous. Anonymous has been very busy on Padlet! Back
to you, Yeasmin.

11:06Skip to 11 minutes and 6 seconds YEASMIN MORTUZA: So I just want to say

quickly, going back to that, that there are plenty more examples where those came
from. So do go and have a look at Step 3.12. We only shared some of the ones where
consent were given, but actually there are an awful lot more examples for you to
look at. OK, so the last comment for this video diary is from Hannah. And Hannah
noticed a bit of a pattern in what teachers were talking about at the beginning of
the course and then at the end of the course. And do have a look at Hannah�s full
comment.

11:43Skip to 11 minutes and 43 seconds One of the things she noticed is that she
was just talking about time, because we know that time and how much time is needed
to make changes is something that�s come out as a theme, a continuous theme that�s
come up, particularly at the start of the course. And it�s something that teachers
worried about because, you know, obviously, it does take time to make changes. What
Hannah noticed though is sometimes it�s just a slight shift in approach that�s
needed, or a tweak is sometimes sufficient. And that actually, coming on courses
like these, the good news is often we identify things that are good and strong that
we�re already doing and that we can just extend upon those.

12:22Skip to 12 minutes and 22 seconds And so it�s not always a case of throwing
everything out and starting from scratch. but making tweaks to practise as well is
always a good place to start. So thank you, Hannah, for that. That brings us to the
end. So over to you, Jane, to wrap up.

12:38Skip to 12 minutes and 38 seconds JANE WINTER: Yes, as I said, thank you very
much for participating in the course. We enjoy reading your comments. Keep them
coming. If you�ve got any questions, if you could post them in Step 5.12 by the
10th of August, and they will get� some of them will be chosen and answered for
you. And in the meantime, just keep on enjoying the course and we�ll see you
online. Goodbye.