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Jacob Greendyk
27 September 2019
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Within Plato’s The Republic, the notion of the “ideal city” is one that is talked about and
thought about extensively. With the idea of true justice at the core of the ideal city’s conception,
we are presented with Kallipolis(K), a Greek city-state that is designed to allow for true justice
to survive and flourish. In direct contrast to Kallipolis is the idea of another Greek city-state,
head of the city-state. Over the course of this essay, I will dive into the differences between these
two conceptual cities’ notions of justice and how a possible correspondence between the two on
the aforementioned topic of justice might go while also relating Plato’s theory of forms to the
discussion.
Within the Greek city T, justice is viewed through a Thrasymachan lens. As defined by
Thrasymachus himself, justice is based upon relative strength and power- literally the “advantage
of the stronger.” This view of justice is one that is contextually based and allows for whomever
is the stronger to define justice through their own advantage. When presented with the factual
argument that justice-and along with it, morals and standards of right and wrong- differs across
any given entity(or in this case, city-state) or society, Thrasymachus’ view of his definition of
justice as the “one, true” definition significantly impacts his response the argument stated above.
His counterargument would likely revolve around his definition of justice as the most valid and
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truthful, as it gives him a position as the stronger and more superior entity-therefore creating the
“advantage of the superior” he talks about when defining justice. This view and belief about
justice also creates and sustains a hubris and perceived superiority based on the idea that only
those who understand the true meaning of justice could possibly enact that belief, and therefore
those select few would be superior to those who do not. Thrasymachus would in turn likely
attribute the difference in moral values and standards to the relative inferiority of said different
times and places. The Greek city P condemns T’s view of justice, but as one would assume, the
junta believe that P holds no position from which to condemn T’s social and political policies.
This position and argument is directly tied to the previous discussion of the differing realities of
justice and standards across time and place. Because of the junta’s self-image of superiority and
intrinsic veracity(based in their view of justice), the idea of a city-state that is perceived as
inferior condemning T is to the junta clearly nonsensical as evidenced by their power and
In Kallipolis, (P) however, Plato’s Theory of Forms is accepted by the citizens and
Plato’s claim that there are actually two domains of reality- the physical, in which all that we can
see in our world resides, and the forms. The domain of forms is populated by “concepts,” all of
which are the perfect form of their given physical representations. These concepts are the same
ones that pop into a person’s head and provide both a definition and a reference point when they
see, for example, a chair. Because of P’s belief in the ToF, P views their condemnation of T as
sensical and correct. This stems from the use of concepts and forms in the ToF-because P
believes that all concepts are inherently perfect, T’s definition of the concept of justice is
undoubtedly flawed and incorrect. When a citizen of P or any other individual who believes in
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the ToF is confronted with the question, “why do standards of right and wrong change across
societies over time,” the assumed response is unsurprisingly rooted in the same belief that makes
them a target of the question. In all likelihood, said responder would cite the idea that all
physical objects are made in the image of the concept that provides them definition, and that
along with physical objects, concepts such as justice can be interpreted by whomever the
beholder is. Through this extension of the ToF logical assumption, an explanation can be offered
as to why different societies hold the word “justice” to mean such different things.
Citations
Plato. "The Republic, by Plato." Trans. Benjamin Jowett. Project Gutenberg - free