Peter Wolfendale Turing and Hegel

The self-integrates drives - based on which criteria? The set of preferences is

“more or less cohesive”, then it’s not cohesive really. The self evolves-along with
them and the pictures of the worls “were premised on” - which means no premises are
stable.

Self-valorisation vs brute survival

The really interesting stuff happens when two selves meet, and the ‘Life and Death
Struggle’ commences. Here we have valorisation vs. survival.

 valorise themselves by destroying the other, while disregarding the possibility of

their own destruction. Their will to dominate their environment in the name of
satisfying their desires takes priority over the vessel of these desires.

This works out the structure of asymmetric recognition, in which self-valorisation

is socially mediated but not yet mutual. It’s instability results in mutuality.

But Mutuality is to some extent unpredictable that is it is unpredictable tout

court: I can simulate you simulating me, but only up to a point. Each of us is an
elusive trajectory traversing the space of possible beliefs and desires, evolving
in response to its encounters will the world and its peers, in a contingent if more
or less consistent manner.

The idea of personhood does not follow from the meeting of two selves. It is a
possible outcome of it, but never necessarily given. Mutuality does not need
personhood, unless you understand it in juridical terms.

guarantee well-behaved,and potentially non-terminating discursive interaction. I

can simulate the interface simulating me, and vice-versa.

Indeed, two such interface agents could authenticate one another in this way, such
that they could pursue open ended conversations that modulate the relations between
the systems they speak for, all without having their own priorities beyond those
associated with these systems.

However, mutual recognition proper requires more than this sort of mutual
authentication. It requires that, although we can predict that our discursive
interaction will be well-behaved, the way it will evolve, and whether it will
terminate, is to some extent unpredictable.
I can simulate you simulating me, but only up to a point.