5 Why
5 Why is an iterative question asking strategy used to make the connection between the cause
and effect of a particular problem.
Problem: Fastener was not tightened,
Why?: Screw bottomed out in the hole
Why?: Hole is too shallow
Why?: Drill bit was broken
The primary goal is to determine the root cause by repeating the question "Why?" Each answer
forms the basis of the next question.
The "6" in the name was based on the number of questions typically required to understand the
root cause beginning with a statement of the problem. More or fewer may actually be required.5 Why
When we think about “root cause” we are typically thinking about “What caused the problem or
defect?”
In reality, there are usually more than one “cause” or “factor” that was responsible for the problem to
‘occur.
We can keep asking Why and eventually we get into areas that are non-technical in nature, and
allowed’ the problem to occur
We can break down these “causes” into three areas to help us better understand how the problem
‘occurred, and what needs to be fixed in order not to have the problem happen again.3x5 Why
3x5 Why is the way we can break this down into easy to manage paths.
We will consider three paths, or “legs” when asking “Why?”
They are:
1. Specific Cause Leg
2. Detection Cause Leg
3. Systemic Cause Leg3x5 Why
3x5 Why is not a stand alone root cause problem solving tool.
It is a problem solving strategy or documentation process that is used to guide the
thought process and communicate the link between the Problem and the Root
(Causes on the shop floor and in the Quality Management System by answering
consecutive WHY's.
The tools used to answer the WHY's are varied and could include anything from
simple observation and symptomatic knowledge, to advance problem solving
strategies and tools.Eee)
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Supplier Issues
from QSYS & Other
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Containment ation (8)
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Team and ldividual Recognition
‘The ZF problem solving process begins
with the 8D,
This documents the actions beginning
with team identification and ending
with team recognition once the
problem has been eliminated. What
happens in between D1 and D8, can
vary greatly depending on who is
managing and/or solving the particular
problem, Many different strategies
and tools may be employed. The 8D
can be used on any type of problem,
both technical and non-technical.Eee euca)
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‘The standard problem solving root cause
documentation is the 3x5 Why.
This documents the link between the
problem statement and the root causes of:
+ Why Made
+ Why Shipped
+ Why Not Predicted in APQP
process.
It does not define the tools or
methods for diagnosing the root
cause,ee
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Root Cause Problem Solving Processes and Tools are varied, and
can include anything from simple observation and systemic
knowledge, trial and error, to advanced Problem Solving
strategies and toolsThe Three Legs
Three 5-Why legs will lead to three or more Root Causes and
therefore three or more Corrective Actions
Specific Root Why aid the problem occur?
Cause Leg Why was faiuro mode created?
Specific Root Cause
Detection Root Why were existing controls not
sufficient to catch the problem
Cause Leg Hctent
it escaped?
Systemic Root why did our Quality systemsnot
Cause Leg protect the customer?
May require more or fewer than 5 Why’sThe Three Legs
Manufacturing System
What CA will be implemented to
prevent the failure mode from being
created
Prevent” Corrective Action
Quality System
What CA will be implemented to
Insure that i the fatlure mode is
created, it will be detected before it
leaves the plant
“protect” Corrective Action
APQP System
‘What CA is required in the QMS ta
ensure the Specific and Detection
Failure modes will not happen in the
future
“Predict” Corrective ActionThe three legs
If we get these root causes wrong then the corrective
actions will not address the proper “prevent”, protect”
‘and “predict” causes. We may miss one.
“Protect” Corrective
Action
emic” “Predict” Corrective
WHY? Root cause ‘ationPitfalls
Potential Pitfalls
-Results are not repeatable - different people using 5 Whys come up with different
causes for the same problem. Because other problem solving tools must be used,
fishbone, 8D, is/is not, etc, the tools chosen may be different.
“Tendency to isolate a single root cause, whereas each question could result in many
different root causes.
The method provides no hard and fast rules about what lines of questioning to
explore, or how long to continue the search for additional root causes. Thus, even
when the method is closely followed, the outcome still depends upon the knowledge
and persistence of the people involved.Who to Involve
Floor level
-Production
Skilled Trades
“Material
Control
1 Line
Supervisor
Specific Root Cause Detection Root Cause
People doing the
How was the problem work
created? How did the problem escape?
Support ~
“Management Systemic Root Cause
Purchasing Why weren't our and Quality Management Systems robust enough
-Engineering to adequately predict the failure and protect the customer?
-Procedures
and policies
People who set up
the processesStructuring a “5 Why”
"What. is wrong with s/t?"
Problem Statement
[Object ] [Defect
Bill was late ; a” T
for work The front right rotor is eracked,
Why? The steering gear leaked.
Bill is late for work.
Bill's car
Therefore didn’t start
£ The battery
Therefore cI
meee Lo
Car door
was left
Therefore ajar
Why?
Dome light
was on all
night
Why?
Root
CauseZF 3 x 5 Why Template (QSYS)
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1 Corrective These are tied
= Lk Actions ‘directly to root
of ‘causes Identified
in each leg.
IF we get the root
‘cause wrong for
each leg, the CA
will be wrong.Finding Root Cause
1. Each answer to the why question must be based on data and observation
> Don't sit around and guess what you think happened. “Go and See" collecting
data and documenting observations while working down the causal chain.
2. A good practice when reviewing a § Why is to ask the problem solving team how the
why answer was found and/or how was it verified.
3. The why statements need to be precise and clearly stated based on the data and
observations.
> Imprecise wording can mask potential causes or waste time going down the
wrong path
4. Avoid taking big steps or jumping down the causal chain.
> This can easily be detected using the “therefore” logic test.Logic of the 3 legs
Problem as customer Keep asking “Why?” until root cause is reached,
sees it. "What" is ‘Typically within 5 Why's, may be fewer or require more.
wrong with "What"?
Unt Leaking iy did customer experience the problem? - wil
“Vehicle set Fault Code Part Fallure mode typical be one or tno Wy from customer
Spump = Nowy Se created inthe problem, Usually ths wil be te fle made in the
~ plant. Product.
~ “Fastener not tightened:
"ep n bore
Specific Cause Leg Lot of spec.
“threads oversued
“Missed operation
‘What in the process
happened to create the
“specific” YF failure mode.
hip into ld (the Faure
‘mode is bore too large)
Read the leg backwards, but stating "therfore” instead of
asking WHY? Therefore] + contamination on seal (if
Problem ts leak)
Each step back must make sense with the statement “Machined part reloaded to
“therfore”. ‘machining center (faire mode
- - ‘savers. thread).Logic of the 3 legs
‘The Failure mode becomes the frst Dox of
tsatedin the detection leg, Weneed to
theplant _) understand why once the fare mode
‘was created, why it was not detected
Detection Cause Leg,
rota
otc pac tr
“Detection” ph icteric
Root Cause +-Gage out of calibration
-Pat bypassed npetn due
fo,non-standard work.Logic of the 3 legs
We can go a step deeping into Detection.
We addressed why the failure made was not detected.
‘We can also ask why the Specific Root Cause was not detected. In other
words, why did we not detect the condition or event that allowed the
failure mode to be created,Logic of the 3 legs
‘The Systemic Cause Leg will typically begin with either the
‘specific or Detection Root causes and in most cases itis
‘appropriate to include legs for beth. Two Systemic Root
‘Cause Lags can be shown,
Systemic Cause Leg
Operator traning matrix vas
rot reviewed pric to assigning
operator to cal.
=specific root cause was not
included in PFMEA when
‘addtional machine added to
cal.Specific Root Cause Leg
Specific Root Cause: WHY did the problem occur?
«Begin this leg with the problem as the customer observed it.
*Answering the next WHY should be supported by data, not opinion
Is this a Good or Bad “Specific Cause” Leg?
Review and determine if:
1. Any of the Why's could be answered
differently?
Does this end at the root cause?
Are Systemic or detection causes
included?
4, Any other errors in path?
2.
3.
Threads out of
spec. due to Why
going through Process mapping
tapping op. twice | | and material flow
is confusing to ‘Addition of relief
new operators operators with
inadequate experience
resulted in parts going
through tapping twiceIs this a Good or Bad “Specific Cause” Leg?
Should be broken out into two
Bracket joint
Why separate Why's. Remember,
don't lump too much
felled to meet information together or skip
steps in logic.
Threads
stripped
Why
‘Threads out of
spec. due to
going through Process mapping
tapping op. twice} | and material flow
is confusing to
‘Addition of relief
new operators
operators with
inadequate experience
resulted in parts going
through tapping twiceIs this a Good or Bad “Specific Cause” Leg?
Why
Fastener joint
failed to meet Operator place
treve These are systemic previously
problems, not what tapped parts into
actually happened to tapping station
create the failure This Is the action
that “caused” the
ae parts to be out of
spec, due to
going through Procéss mapping
tapping op. twice | | and material flow
is confusing to Addition of relief
new operators operators with
inadequate experience,
resulted in parts going
through tapping twiceIs this a Good or Bad “Speci
ic Cause” Leg?
A corrective action on the “specific”
root cause will prevent parts from
being placed into tapping operation
twice.
Operator place
previously
tapped parts into
tapping stationIs this a Good or Bad “Detection Cause” Leg?
Why Review and determine if :
1. Any of the Why's could be answered
differentiy?
Does this end at the root cause?
Any other errors in path?
2.
Existing process 3.
controls did not
prevent operator
4 from placing parts
into tapping twice
Machining center
did not have
controls to detect
previous tapped
partIs this a Good or Bad “Detection Cause” Leg?
Why
Threads out
Machining center did
not have controls to
This is the detection leg, detect previous
but we find the word Therefore [tapped part
preventIs this a Good or Bad “Detection Cause” Leg?
Why
Therefore
Machining center did
not have controls to
detect previous
tapped partIs this a Good or Bad “Detection Cause” Leg?
Why
Machining center did
not have controls to
detect previous
tapped part
Parts are not
measured 100%
after tapping to
verify dimensions
Corrective action #1 would address detection of
previously tapped parts being placed into
machining center.
Correction action #2 would address detecting a
part that has been tapped twice from being
shipped to customer or next operationIs this a Good or Bad “Systemic Cause” Leg?
Review and determine if :
1. Any of the Why's could be answered
differently?
2. Does this end at the root cause?
3. Any other errors in path?
‘APQP/FMEA did
not consider
double tapping a
risk
No prior customer
returns for
threads tapped
twiceIs this a Good or Bad “Systemic Cause” Leg?
Why
‘Operator place
previously tapped
parts into tapping This is not the only factor in
station = deciding on if a fallure mode
= APQP/FMEA did exists. We need to consider our
Specific root not consider POP system, and how we
cause double tapping a determine and evaluate risk(
considered but isk RFMEA, lessons leamed, read
not detection —Theref across, ..)
Machining center
did not have
controls to detect
What corrective action will be
considered for systemic root cause
related to specific root
cause?......Process standards, etc,
What corrective action will be RFMEA required for all equipment.
considered for systemic root cause
related to detection?
previous tapped
partExamples of Systemic Root Causes
‘system root causes may be considered those things we must update in procedures, documentation, APOP, and standards,
to ensure that what was learned Is captured so It cannot happen on other products, other lines, future products and
processes. The development process missed something which allowed the original fallure to happen. How will we ensure
‘we don't miss It again?
™ Process steps not robust or followed:
PEMEA
Process Flow Diagram
Control Plan
‘Changeover process / procedure
Preventative / Gage Maintenance
Error and Mistake Proofing
Reaction Plans / Escalation,
™ Process controls inadequate
SPC limits! sample size
— Process capability
= Operator work instructions
Lot traceabilityExamples of Systemic Root Causes
@ Quality system non-conformance
— Improper changeover
— Inadequate contro! of non-conforming product
— Failure to act on early warning
— Failure to foliow procedures
= Change management
= Change process not followed
= Customer not property informed
~ Documentation not updated prior to implementation (DIPFMEA, Control Plan, Work Instruction)
Remember this leg helps prevent repeat problems from occurring in the future!Additional Exercise
As an added enhancement to this review, please consider one recent problem in your
plant and try to create a 3x5 why from your knowledge of the root cause.
Please be sure to consider all legs.
You may make specifics of your problem generic as to protect any sensitive information.