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This document outlines the outcomes of the event held in June 2013. Including the identified
challenges and consensus points for project kick-off, design delivery and construction and operation.
Contents
BIM4Real Summary................................................................................................................................. 0
Contents .................................................................................................................................................. 1
What Is This Document? ......................................................................................................................... 2
Document Scope .......................................................................................................................................................... 2
Authors and Contributors.......................................................................................................................................... 2
Event Summary ....................................................................................................................................... 3
What was BIM4Real? .................................................................................................................................................... 3
What Was It About?...................................................................................................................................................... 3
Discussion Areas............................................................................................................................................................ 4
Session 1: Project Kick-Off ...................................................................................................................... 5
Executive Summary...................................................................................................................................................... 5
Consensus ....................................................................................................................................................................... 6
Suggestions .................................................................................................................................................................... 6
Main Challenge Areas.................................................................................................................................................. 8
Session 2: Design Delivery ...................................................................................................................... 9
Executive Summary...................................................................................................................................................... 9
Consensus ..................................................................................................................................................................... 10
Suggestions .................................................................................................................................................................. 10
Main Challenge Areas................................................................................................................................................ 11
Session 3: Construction and Operation ................................................................................................ 13
Executive Summary.................................................................................................................................................... 13
Consensus ..................................................................................................................................................................... 14
Suggestions .................................................................................................................................................................. 14
Main Challenge Areas................................................................................................................................................ 15
Appendix: Element Ownership ............................................................................................................. 16
Appendix: Attendee List........................................................................................................................ 19
Document History ................................................................................................................................. 20
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Document Scope
This document does not seek to define terms such as
Building Information Modelling or BIM Maturity Level 2. Nor does it seek to define the intention of
protocol documents. It is intended to be read by those familiar already with these terms and
documents. If not familiar, documents such as PAS1192-2:2013, BS1192:2007 and the AEC
Protocols make for an excellent starting point. Websites owned by the BIM Task Groups, the CIC,
RIBA, BIMTalk (CIBSE), the Landscape Institute and the BSRIA contain a wealth of information.
This document is an event summary document. It records what was discussed and stated at
the actual event by those in attendance. It should not be read as an approved best practice
or protocol document. Nor does it have any legal standing.
BIM4Real Committee Graham Stewart Associate and Head of BIM for Structures
at Ramboll
Ray Purvis Associate & CAD/BIM Manager at Atkins
Who Attended?
The event was attended by some of the most technically
competent people from the UK Construction industry.
These represented everyone from sole traders, through
small enterprises to large consultancies. In this mix were
structural engineers, architects, building services engineers,
managers, contractors, clients and consultants. The BIM4Real event was an invite only event;
with a selection committee ensuring a diverse range of people were in attendance.
Project Team
Those attending were asked to act like they were a project team. In three separate stages, Project
Kick-Off, Design Delivery and Construction and Operation they had to discuss and, if possible,
define how they would act to deliver the Employers Information Requirements. This document
outlines the outcomes from these discussions and outputs from them. It focuses on where
consensus was reached and suggestions made and where there was confusion and thus
challenges to resolve.
Had To Be Real
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Everybody was asked to relate the delivery of this project to known ways of working. This included
limitations in organisational capability and understood process as well as software and hardware
Discussion Areas
The chair people were asked to target outcomes in the following areas in each of the three stages;
Project Kick-Off
1. Employers Information Requirements Response - Understanding of how the team
would go about setting up the project in response to the Employers requests
2. Delivery Method - The team’s delivery method and how they would document this. Also
who would document this?
3. Roles - Understanding of roles within the team. Who would be responsible for what?
4. CDE- How a common data environment should be established and managed.
Design Delivery
1. Who Does What? Looking at particular design scenarios. What is the best method for the
team to deal with them in a collaborative way while meeting the employer requirements?
2. Traditional vs. New Process - Looking at the requirements of BIM Maturity Level 2, what
is new from what we currently do? What can be tweaked to meet requirement? What just
works already?
3. Coordinated Design - How do we model to ensure the entire project requirement,
including construction and operation are met?
4. Information Exchange - What is the best controlled method to distribute this information
to enable collaboration?
It was pleasing that when asked more than half of the room are using or
adopting BS1192:2007 workflows. This will mean a greater level of ability
to work collaboratively through standardising the transmittal of
documentation.
Interestingly, there was little worry in the room with regards to liability and insurance. It was felt
that project indemnity covers these requirements. There was some good discussion around model
ownership and the contractual requirements covering this. It was felt by many that caution was
needed in how the model licence is communicated. There seemed to be good consensus that the
client would be able to fully utilise the model for their requirements providing it was for the
project asset alone.
There was still significant confusion over roles and responsibilities, including the understanding of
the Information Manager and the Task Team Managers. Further how the BIM Managers and BIM
Coordinators roles fitted into this, if at all. There were also question marks over roles such as the
production of the Federated Model. There seems to be clear need for much greater clarity here.
This was again discussed in Session 3, Construction and Operation.
Also, the common data environment, a requirement of BS1192:2007 seemed to still be causing
some significant confusion, especially on the subject of who would be responsible for setting it up
and most importantly; administering it.
There are a number of continuing question marks over specification systems such as Uniclass 2.0
and New Rules of Measurement (NRM) as well as information registers such as COBie, which need
to be addressed.
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Consensus
Process
1. BS1192:2007 Workflows - In excess of half of the room (show of hands) are actively or
currently are adopting BS1192:2007 workflows.
Model Ownership
9. Liability Through Project Indemnity - The liability of the project should be managed
through project indemnity. Mervyn Richards went on to explain later that insurance
companies are happy with the CIC advice.
Suggestions
Ownership
Please note the Ownership section is presented as understood by the attendees of the
conference only. It does not form any form of contractual or legal advice.
1. Model Ownership - At the event, it was suggested a number of times that the “client owns
the model”. Although there was some objection to this statement, including, “the client
does not own the model, they are licenced to use it for the intended purpose, and the
ownership resides with the author. If you buy a book, you do not own the rights to that
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book, you only own it to read and that is the licence you enter into. To state that the client
owns the model is to imply that they can use it for whatever purpose they like, which they
Process
2. Employers Information Requirements / BIM Execution Plan / Master Information
Delivery Plan - “This should be consolidated into a single document” Although it was
also questioned how this would work in practice, “the Employers Information
Requirements are written by the client, BIM Execution Plan by the 'Team'. The Master
Information Delivery Plan is sometimes a joint effort between the client and the team”
Asset Information
10. Make COBie friendly - COBie data needs a “client friendly interface”
It was suggested that one of the primary reasons for this challenge was the limitation of software,
especially across software platforms and a limitation in the separated manner that we produce
models, some suggesting cloud solutions being the
answer. It was suggested that element
collaboration in this way was in fact moving more
towards BIM Maturity Level 3, although this
statement was contested. There also appears to be
an issue of trust, which likely needs to be addressed
with agreed quality control measures. This trust
issues appear understandable as the session also
revealed that there were few controls in place other
than peer checking for model validation prior to
formal issue.
There was consensus of how this should be handled on a project basis. This was to hold Design
Review meetings including perhaps on-going meetings throughout the life cycle of the design.
Who should attend these meeting was a subject of discussion with differing opinions.
Level of Definition (LOD) remains a big talking point with very little consensus here. Again, this will
almost certainly lead to inefficient modelling. Many people simply do not feel we have the right
guidance in the UK presently. Some suggested that the American E202 document was a
preferable guide. The comment was made that the current Level of Definition understanding
needs to be reviewed per project with the client. For example, some projects will call for a high
LOD input at conceptual stages for items say in building services were as say, structures will be still
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at early LOD levels. It was felt that guidance was currently lacking here.
Collaborative Process
3. Site Coordination Responsibility At Outset - While it was accepted that the
responsibility would be project specific, it was agreed that site coordination has to occur.
This should be agreed at the outset of a project. It should be agreed clearly who is
responsible and how this should be set up.
Suggestions
Process
1. Design Review Meetings Should Be Technical - It was suggested that the wrong people
are often attending the design review meetings for the project set up. It was a comment
that attendees should be the BIM Coordinators who have a technical understanding of
their organisations capabilities including their software and design capability as well as
process including information management and resource. They can convey that to the
others in the design team, who in turn need to do the same. It was suggested that often
the people attending are not technical and may agree (or not agree) to tasks that they
assume are achievable, leading to risk. However it was also suggested that the meeting
should be more focused on talking about design. “If we take away the BIM process, you
are still left with the Design Review meeting.” It was suggested that while we need to
appreciate some intricacies, that we should “not forget that we are delivering buildings
here. This is not all about software - that's a distraction at the moment.”
Ownership
2. Volume Strategy Needed - This includes a clear understanding of who owns what in
terms of space (or volume) within a building, “particularly the MEP”. The process for this
would likely be the building services define their spaces and pass it to the Architects.
3. LOD Plain Language Answers - There needs to be plain language answers to LOD
questions posed in the Employers Information Requirements. For example, what data you
understand will be delivered next to the employers expectations at each data drop stage.
4. Matrix of Responsibilities - Responsibilities established in the Design Review meetings
should be regularly reviewed and kept up to date in a Matrix of Responsibility.
Collaborative Process
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5. Model Validation - Currently peer review only are acceptable for some. This includes
validating the model against the 2D deliverables. For some it was 2 levels, first being a
software model check, checking of the elements, such as a column being vertical and
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spliced correctly and then an information check of data within those elements, such a
column size, material, and cost. Some suggested that software such as Solibri Model
Checker should be utilised.
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It was repeatedly stated that the Design Models cannot be expected to immediately transfer to the
contractor requirements. Design models are simply not created with these requirements in mind.
The example of un-spliced columns was used to illustrate this. It was suggested that the
contractors needed to be involved in the Design meetings to ensure that their requirements could
be correctly communicated and understood.
For the same reason, it was suggested that the QS or cost consultant role needs to be involved at
an earlier stage of design to ensure that information they require can be extracted. This would
have to include an understanding of supplier capability and who was participating in the
modelling process, as well as what elements
suppliers would model.
With regard to handing over the model to the building operators, there are concerns regarding the
integrity of graphical data. It was repeatedly pointed that a design model is neither complete nor
as built and this needs to be considered and understood by the client. There is agreement to the
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principle of data drops however this event demonstrated that current guidance has not been
sufficient for this activity to be understood.
Suggestions
Collaborative Process
1. Never Delete Something - Change It - It was suggested that a “Golden rule” is that
elements must keep a truly unique identification throughout the project. This is achieved
by ensuring elements in models are never deleted and replaced, but only revised. This was
as it is “very important for interference checking and quantification requirements”.
However it was also suggested that really quantification tools need to be more
sophisticated and that it was not in fact practical to advise users not to delete elements.
Collaborative Process
2. Federated Model in BIM Execution Plan - BIM Execution Plan should make clear level of
“completeness” to be expected in the federated model. This should state on a project
specific basis what information will be modelled and what suppliers are participating.
3. Size of Federated Model - It was suggested that model size would naturally be an issue
with federated models. It was suggested that the IFC or Autodesk Navisworks format
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should be utilised for this process and not authoring packages like Graphisoft ArchiCAD or
Autodesk Revit. It was suggested this would also resolve the issue of accessibility.
of the lorry!”
1. Stairs
2. Floors and Walls (finishes)
3. Structural Openings
4. Building Services Equipment
5. Civil Coordination with Building
6. Infrastructure Development
7. Utility Information Development
8. Landscape Architecture Coordination.
Seeing other
peoples problems.
Model structure
then others model
plasterboard ? -
copy monitor.
Architects
modelling plaster
If work around,
creating more work
, more co-
ordination….
Export to COBie /
IFC duplicates ?
Structural Openings
For Slabs, there us Generally, model Separate Lintels should be
a specific size that penetrations below models…. And co- modelled by the
Struct can accept 150mm not ordinate them - engineer.
as a penetration modelled but if it communication Secondary
without has an effect on Dual Host ??? copy steelwork should
consideration. reinforcement it monitor. be modelled. Hot
needs to be not replace generic and cold. Engineer
More of an issue is known. with manufacturers or fabricator?
structural openings just tag with the
through walls, can Scenario specific. actual data.
generate 10x 150mm
secondary penetrations?
steelwork.
Always owned by
structures, who
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must be consulted
by those requiring
the penetration.
Shared design
intent is the
important driver;
ownership needs
to be managed
sensibly.
Civil
We understand the Start with the project dependent Building Outline DWG into
existing condition, basics. Get the – depends on needed Navisworks
but have a bad setting out point contract Orientation and
interface with the sorted. responsibilities level
designed building. Is it an Island or a 3
Shared file with car car park.
Possible to “Flatten S/O point, levels
the Earth” to and grids.
design buildings
and then place the File type Civil3d?
building back into DWG?
a curved Earth.
3D dwg with some
depth data for u/g
services
Infrastructure Development
Requires proper Start with OS, Depends on the Based on the
Northings and replace with topo. project, the bigger Architect
Eastings to sit a the project more
building inside a Civils 3D goes into Civils
terrain.
Utility Information
Scope of service is GIS would be nice Not trusted Below ground
not clear. but not always MEP to define survey
necessary.. incoming services
Landscape Architecture
Perimeter edge Mostly 2d cad, very Generally CAD – Landscape
around building? limited only emerging architect
involvement with now. Terrain done responsible as they
BIM from LI on civil 3d specify.
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Document History
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