The Biblical Interpretation of Daniel’s 70 Weeks (Dan 9:1-27)

This initial post on this Theological Views blog, of Daniel’s 70 Week Prophecy (Dan
9:24-27) is chosen to be the first because of the natural and foremost place that it has in my
venture in Biblical Research. It was in the endeavor to share this great prophecy with others who
did not fully understand it, and/or interpret it accurately, that I found myself, while in the midst
of my undergraduate University Theological studies, having to fully undertake the study of this
prophecy as virtually a doctoral dissertation assignment. This therefore launched me into, what
I’ve seen is the captivating and exciting world of scholarly Biblical research and it also has
literally come to lay the foundation for my “Theological Views” and approach to Bible study by
the precise, exegetical approach and methods that had to be mastered and exercised in accurately
interpreting this prophecy. Therefore it has come to be that most, if not all the other entries in this
blog, owe there development to the research that was done on this Prophecy. And I greatly thank
God for all of this. The result of this study is to be officially released in a forthcoming book
entitled: The Biblical Interpretation of Daniel’s 70 Weeks, but what follows in this blog is a
foretaste of these findings. Here succinct summaries of these findings are given, but much more
detailed and documented analysis and explanations will be available in that forthcoming book.

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A worthwhile and beneficial, detailed supporting study of this prophecy can be found in
the 1995 book: The Chronology of Daniel 9:24-27, by (then) Doctoral Candidate Brempong
Owusu-Antwi (Ph.D.). (The full Table of Content, and Listing of Illustrations and Tables of this
work is given below.[1]1 Available for purchase at the ATS Store). Of the many valuable
contributions of this book, one of the most special is found in the way in which the various
interpretations of this prophecy by other Christian writers are fully accounted for and
documented with virtually every accepted variable interpretation mentioned, documented and
analyzed. The 436-page book makes use of over 900 such, and other pertinent, references (see its
46-page bibliography) and cites them in over 1,400 footnotes (over a total of 144 pages (reduced
font)). All of these specifications to emphasize that the book is indeed well researched and
documented. As such, it is indeed worth adding to one’s Christian library, and also worth the
study.
As it is almost, if not, unanimously recognized in the Christian World, the Seventy
Weeks of Daniel is a foundational cornerstone in the Christian Faith. Depending of course on the
method, results and application of interpretation, it can come to build an immovable foundation
for: (1) one’s faith in Jesus Christ as the Messiah and son of God, (2) one’s doctrinal framework,
and (3) one’s theological background for prophetic interpretation. It was because of these crucial
reasons, that an extensive study of this prophecy was done, and the following succinct summary
preview is given. As it was said above, for more information, you can buy the forthcoming book
which will be announced on this blog when it is published. (To freely support its eventual
publication, please do complete the related pre-publication survey poll on this page).

Prophecy’s Date

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Daniel 9:1 - In the first year of Darius, the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed [lineage] of the Mede,
who was caused to be made king over the realm of the Chaldeans.--

The Seventy Weeks Prophecy was given to the Prophet Daniel during the first year of the
conquering king of Medo-Persia, the mysterious “Darius the Mede” (Dan 9:1). This up-to-now
unidentifiable, and “denounced” by some to be grossly erroneous, even “fictitious”, monarch is
now, -by linguistic and historical provisions and facts, identified as being Cyrus the Great
himself; and this is inclusive of the information/argument from added research that Cyrus may
have given over Babylon in a temporary placeholding-reign to his ‘son’ (and/or nephew)
Cambyses II. The official reckoning would have still been done according to the regnal years of
Cyrus a.k.a “Darius the Mede”.

Daniel’s Prayer (Dan 9:2-19)

The prophecy of the 70 Weeks was given as a response to Daniel’s great prayer of
confession and repentance (Dan 9:3-19) it was indeed in the same first year of King Cyrus of
538/537 B.C., which was the 69th year of Israel’s 70-year judgement captivity, that God began to
act favorably towards Israel in order to fulfill His promise of restoration which He had spoken
through the prophet Jeremiah (Jer 29:10-13).

Verse 24
Daniel 9:24 - Seventy Weeks [490 years] have been cut off for your people and for your holy
city, For the purpose of putting a restraint on the transgression of rebellion. And thus then sealing
the sin. And thus then making atonement for iniquity. And thus then causing the everlasting
righteousness to be brought in. And thus then also sealing vision and prophet. And thus then also
anointing a Most Holy Place.

In Daniel 9:24, the time period of the prophecy is symbolically given as “70 Weeks,”
(literalistically in the Hebrew: “sevens seventies”). Biblical numerology comes to show that this
is given in this way to emphasized that this is a probationary period given to “Israel and
Jerusalem” in which seven “perfect representations” of judgements (70) will come over Israel. It
is then seen, through Biblical precedence that ‘one prophetic day symbolically represents one
year’ [PDF] [Video][2]2. It therefore is the equivalent of 490 years. Furthermore, this period of
490 years is said to have been “cut off” from a previously mentioned, but yet unexplained,
prophetic period of 2300 prophetic days. (Dan 8:14 -see much more here/video). The chronology
of the Seventy Week prophecy therefore comes to also establish the chronology for that 2300 day
prophecy.
Then in the rest of verse 24, a list of six expected actions during this probationary period
are given for Israel to seek to fulfill, and thus also have God ratify, each with its own distinct and
specific meaning and fulfillment.

Verse 25
Daniel 9:25 - "Know therefore and cause yourself to understand, That from the start of a judicial
matter. For the purpose of restoring and thus then also building Jerusalem. Until Messiah, the

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King. There shall be 7 weeks [49 years] and 62 weeks [434 years]. And so (in this way), it
(Jerusalem) will naturally, and definitely, come to be restored, and then (as a result of this) it will
also be built with public square and "decision-making;" (but in difficult times).

The reckoning of the chronology of the prophecy begins in verse 25 and its starting point
is given as (accurately translated and interpreted) “the start of a judicial/legal matter for the
purpose of restoring and thus then building Jerusalem . . .” . It is later said in this verse that as a
result of this “matter” Jerusalem would come to be restored and thus built up with ‘its public
places for courts and its judicial authority in “decision-making”reestablished.’ The distinct terms
used in these phrase points out that the “restoration” of Jerusalem dealt specifically with the
political aspects of the city while the building up dealt with its physical reconstruction. After an
exegetically based, and historical, search and study, this “judicial/legal matter” is concretely
identified as the “judicial/legal matter” which is recorded in Neh 8, namely the “Reading of the
Law” for the first time to the now returned Jewish exiles. Now while this event, due to its present
location in Neh 8, has led to the conclusion that it took place some 13 years after the return of the
Exiles of Ezra in 457 B.C., further detailed and in depth study show that this passage was
“transposed” by later scribes from its original location in the account and writings of Ezra,
namely from between Ezra 8 and 9. It therefore took place in the fall of 457 B.C., on the first day
of the 7th Jewish month to be exact (=the Feast of Trumpets (Lev 23:24; Num 29:1)), -(see the
related Neh 7:73b and Neh 8:2, 13[3]3).
As for the prophesied building of Jerusalem, the study of the actual time period in the
statements of adversity in Ezra 4:8-23, as supported by its agreement with events in the Persian
Empire at that time as report in Classical Greek histories, were made towards the exiles under
Ezra and before the work of Nehemiah. It was made sometimes between 452-450 B.C. [and not
ca. 448+ B.C.], during the revolt of the then Persian Governor “Beyond the River”: Megabyzus.

The Messiah
The prophecy then indicates that at the end of, what works out to be, 483 years, a certain
“Messiah, Prince/(sub-)Ruler” will make his appearance on the scene. This identity of the
Messiah is clearly and rightfully assumed by Jesus Christ, and it is only publicly
declared/revealed by Him after His baptism by John the Baptist in the Jordan River. (See also
Luke 1:32; John 18:37). From the precise, uninterruptible chronology of the prophecy, which
precisely began in the 7th Jewish month (i.e., Sep/Oct) of 457 B.C., the end of this 483-year
period is to take place in Sep/Oct of the year 27 A.D. Then sometime after that chronological
period’s ending, the Messiah is to make His official (public) appearance on the scene, as such.
The date for the baptism of Jesus and the start of His public ministry is conclusively/most
objectively anchoredly indicated from by the date of the Passover revealed in John 2:20 which,
when accurately translated (actually non-sequiturly), says (by the quasi-flummoxed Jewish
leaders): “This sanctuary has stood built for 46 years...!!?”, is conclusively reckoned to be in the
Spring of the year 28 A.D.
Then from the chronological data given early in the gospels of Luke and John, it can be
further specifically determined that the Baptism of Christ had priorly taken place, actually,
around the middle of that winter, earlier in that 28 A.D. year -[contra e.g., GC 327.1's ‘autumn

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baptism’], some ca. “2 months” (DA 144.3-145.1)/65 days (= 40 (Matt 4:1|DA 109.1ff, 114.1-2)
+ ca. 25 (John 1:29ff|DA 136.4-137.1ff)) leading up to that first ministering Passover visit (John
2:13ff).
Further corroborating evidence about the exact year of Christ’s baptism is then seen in
Luke 3:1. -Contrary to a popularized erroneous claim [4]4, that specific year is not revealed by a
convergence of the several reigns cited in Luke 3:1-2, for that convergence factually merely
produces a wide range of years of: 27-33/34 A.D. Rather the precise year is obtained from the
fact that it was also during the said “15th year of the authority of Tiberius.” (Luke 3:1) That is
because the Greek term used in this verse to speak of the “authority” of Tiberius is not to be used
and understood interchangeably with the term for “reign” as it is commonly done in Bible
translations. An in depth study of the use of this word in the 630+ times that it occurs in other
Greek works, clearly reveals that it has a specific meaning of referring to the “authority” or
“power” that someone, or some entity, has in order to reign or have the supremacy and/or
dominion. As such it is also a “power” that can be shared by two or more individuals or entities.
Therefore, based on the documented history of Tiberius’s accession and reign as emperor, the
beginning of this 15 year reckoning is from the time when Tiberius Caesar was made a co-
emperor, and that by Consular law, by his adoptive father Emperor Augustus Caesar. However
while that Consular Law was proposed and passed in the Senate sometime around October 23 of
A.D. 12, it apparently was not formally put into effect until Tiberius’s actual return to Rome a
little after the Roman’s New Year’s Day of January 13 A.D. So Tiberius’ ensuing 15th year
therefore was from (some date in) January 27 A.D. to January 28 A.D. And it is towards the very
end of that 15th year period, that Jesus was baptized. [The chronological chart at the end has been
updated to fully indicate this newest/most accurate ‘January 28 A.D. baptism’ understanding].
(As the reference in Luke 3:23 to Christ’s approximate age is often, but falsely, used to
try to determine the year of the beginning of Christ’s ministry, see this pertinent post on the
actual year of Christ’s birth).
Now, succinctly stated: the manifest reconciling fact here between this more Biblically
and objectively proven date of January 28 A.D. for Christ’s baptism and the prophetic
chronological indicator in Dan 9:25 for an (exact) arrival on the scene of the Messiah 483 years
after the start of the prophecy, thus in the Fall of October 27 AD. is in how closely the
“forerunning” ministry of John the Baptist was “symbiotically” linked to that of the Messiah (e.g.
Matt 17:10-13). In fact John the Baptist himself clearly states that ‘the whole reason/purpose of
his ministry and his baptizing was so that the Messiah would be revealed to Israel’ (John 1:31, 33
=DA 109.3-110.1). And so, it appears that John began his ministry by first going on an extensive,
itinerant preaching tour (Matt 3:1-4) and “then” (Matt 3:5a) he settled near Bethany to do
baptisms, and it is then that the people who had heard his prior preaching went out to him to be
baptized....and it was at that time, when also these tidings of John ministry had reached the
region where Jesus lived ca. 75 miles away from Jerusalem/Judea in the Galilee region (Matt
2:19-23), that Jesus, and others in the region, traveled to where John was ministering. (DA
109.1). So, given the fact that John’s ministry did not involve miraculous signs (John 10:41; cf.
4:1), it probably took a while for his, thus “simple”, message to spread throughout Israel.
Furthermore, it is evident that John ministry was started a long while before Jesus came on the
scene at all as John had had time to assemble many “disciples”, some of which would

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immediately leave him to follow after Jesus upon John’s endorsement of Him (John 1:35-37; DA
138.4-5ff). And quite interestingly, in Luke 3:21, Luke uses very specific/deliberate (Greek)
expression to (literally/accurately) say: “As a result of every-[only repenting]-one (Gk. apanta)
being baptize (Gk. (aorist) infinitive (=main verb)), Jesus also was being baptized (Gk. passive
(dependent) aorist participle-(of result/end)”, all strongly indicating that Jesus going out to John
to be baptized was pointedly greatly dependent on when everyone else was being baptized.
So it is manifest that John had begun his “forerunning” ministry for a while before Jesus,
and at first mainly as an itinerant preacher, and then John entered a non-itinerant phase of
baptizing, and it is then that people now left there homes/locations to go out to him instead, and
it is at that time that Jesus also did the same. So it pointedly was John’s (secondary) baptizing
ministry which served as a “sign” to Jesus (See DA 109.1, cf. 109.3b).
Thus it is quite possible that John had begun, at God’s indication, preaching in October
27 AD., and then, perhaps distinctly, at God’s indication (John 1:33), began baptizing around
January 28 AD, and ‘as a result’ of this news of, pointedly, this call to ‘go and be baptized by
John’ also reached Nazareth, that Jesus then joined the flocking crowds to also be baptized, and
was thus officially revealed as the Messiah. So it would be John’s Messiah-seeming (Luke
3:15ff; John 1:19-20ff) preaching start itself, in possibly October 27 AD, when he actually
straightly announced the soon arrival of the (superior) Messiah (John 1:26-28, 30-31; Luke 3:16-
17) which had timely fulfilled the prophetic chronological element in Dan 9:25. Then Jesus
merely seamlessly complemented, and continued this Messianic Advent.[5]5 Also, the
allegorical, and timed, ‘repent or likewise perish’ (Luke 13:1-5) parable of Christ in Luke 13:6-9
(cf. Matt 21:18-19ff), told in the third (cf. John 7:2) and final year of Christ’s public ministry,
shows that the (manifestly) 3.5, (inclusively reckoned: 4), years of ministry by John the Baptist
and Jesus were indeed seamlessly, consecutively, conjoined. (Luke 3:8-9, 15-17; Matt 3:1-
2||Mark 1:14-15 cf. Matt 17:10-13).

Verse 26
Daniel 9:26 - Then after the 69 weeks [483 years] the Messiah will allow Himself to be cut off
(i.e. be killed), although He will have no sin. And the people of the coming ruler (i.e., the
unbelieving Jews) will cause the city and the sanctuary to be destroyed. This, their end, in that
which overflows. And until this end of war, desolations will have been determined.

In verse 26, the theme of the ultimate tragic purpose of the coming of the Messiah is
addressed and it is said that he would be “cut off and have nothing.” Also terms which highlight
the voluntary and sacrificial nature of this event are particularly used.
Then it is predicted, through various syntactical means, that: "... the people of the
Prince/(sub-)Ruler (i.e., the Messiah) who is to come (i.e, the unbelieving Jews -cf. John
19:19-22) will cause the city and the sanctuary to be destroyed." This is a prediction that is
fulfilled exactly in the developments in the destruction of Jerusalem by the Roman armies under
the command of, the then peace-seeking, Titus.

Verse 27
Daniel 9:27 - That is, He (the Messiah) will cause a covenant to prevail with the many believers

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for one week [7 years]; And in the middle of the week [after 3 ½ years]. He will cause (the
meaning of) sacrifices and meal offerings (i.e. sin-offerings) to cease. But because of the most
extreme of abominations, there is going to be a place that suddenly will (forcefully) be made to
become desolate; And even before the utter end. Then that which has been determined, will be
poured out on the place that is (already) desolate.

Then, as it is common and syntactically possible and supported in Biblical Hebrew, and
as the events of Verse 27 clearly, self-evidently attest to, verse 27 goes over the events and
predictions mentioned in Verse 26 but this time with more detail, elaboration and chronological
precision. The time of the Messiah’s public work towards the Jewish nation is specified to be
during a period of 7 years. Then the atoning death of the Messiah mentioned in verse 26 is
predicted to take place in the middle of that week, thus 3½ years after the Messiah had come on
the scene. Therefore exactly in the Spring of 31 A.D. Using solely again the chronological
information and indicators given in the Gospels, it can be concretely concluded that (1) the
public ministry of Christ lasted for three full years from the Passover of 28 A.D., and ended when
he was crucified, thus during the Passover of 31 A.D. Also like the language of the Prophecy
allows for, the Messiah’s death would come to cause the Temple sacrifices and offerings to
cease. This was done by first making void their spiritual meaning, and then eventually also
ending them physically.[6]6
As Jesus immediately ascended to heaven after his resurrection, it may seem that there
remains an unfulfilled 3½-year period of the prophecy, but as the Hebrew syntax which was used
for the statement in verse 27 states that: ‘the Messiah would also cause a covenant to prevail,’ it
is therefore fully allowed for this work to be done either directly and/or indirectly by the
Messiah. And as several Biblical passages show, Jesus did indeed accomplish this prediction in
this dual way by first actively doing it Himself in over 3½ years of public ministry, and then
through His disciples’ ministry, after his death. This 2nd half period of the work of the disciples
amongst, solely, the Jewish nation came to an abrupt and categoric end with the martyrdom of
Stephen, and the resulting persecution of Christian believers that immediately followed. (Acts
8:1ff). For many theological reasons, the martyrdom of Stephen provides a strong thematic
ending for the probationary period given to the Jews as seen by the nature, theme and content of
his speech given to the Jewish Sanhedrin (Acts 7), and the many spiritual resemblances that were
manifested in his ministry which strongly mirrored the work and message of Christ himself. It
was mainly due to this strong testimony and no doubt, clear reminder, which also like Christ
brought unanswerable reproach to the Jewish leaders and people, that Stephen was singled out to
be the first one to be put to death among all the believers of that time during these initial 3½
years of preaching by the disciples.
Chronologically, the dating of Stephen’s martyrdom also precisely fits the chronology of
the 70 Week Prophecy. This date is determined from the reckoning of the chronology of Paul’s
ministry following his part in Stephen’s death and his soon conversion to the Christian faith.
(Acts 8:1ff). From this carefully reconstructed chronology, which finds strong support in several
dates and contemporary events in the Roman Empire, it is determined that the martyrdom of
Stephen occurred in ca. the fall of 34 A.D.

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Predicted Destruction
Also again in this verse, like in verse 26, following the death of the Messiah, the
prediction in verse 27 turn to the results of the Jews rejecting the Messiah. It is here (literally)
said, with more emphasis that :

“... because of the most extreme of abominations (i.e., the murder of the Messiah) there is
going to be a place that will (forcefully) be made to become desolate (i.e. the Temple).”

This is a reference to the physical destruction of the Jewish Temple that is to come. Then
the prophecy shows that there would be a period of time that would take place before the
prophesied destruction, through a then-to-come war, but still the sealing of this future destruction
was to be made during the uninterrupted time of the 490 years, as it straightly adds:

“And even before the utter end. Then that which had been (firmly) determined, will
poured out on the (place that is already) desolate.”

Thus the probationary period of these 70 weeks/490 years came to as precisely fulfilled
end. However, as literal Israel failed to meet the six requirements made back in the opening verse
(24), then they were officially “demoted/removed” from their position as God’s chosen people
and were “replaced” by the believers in, and followers of, the Messiah Jesus Christ. While many
Christians today have trouble accepting that God could and/or has rejected literal Israel as His
chosen people, this is the clear message that is given throughout the New Testament and is
expounded upon in great detail by Paul in Romans 9-11 where he speaks of God’s Spiritually
Enduring, (a.k.a. “New”), Israel.

{Chart #8 - Summary of the Chronology of the 70 Weeks}

Conclusion
The correct and accurate interpretation and reckoning of the Seventy Week prophecy
provides the Christian believer today with an unshakeable basis upon which to base his or her
faith in Jesus Christ and His life transforming teachings. It also demonstrates and substantiates
the power of God in fulfilling His prophetic word and also His great authoritative control in the
events of world history. As the song says: ‘He indeed has the whole world in His hands.’ This
correct interpretation of this prophecy also helps to establish the correct theology and framework
for the Bible Student for studying and interpreting end time prophecies. Therefore it is imperative
for believers today to understand this ‘Biblical Interpretation of the Prophecy’ and, as stated
before, if, after having read this succinct overview, you would like to have more details and
further proof for the exegetical and chronological conclusions presented here, then do purchase
the book when it is released. This here is merely an informative preview of the book. (Again,
please do take part in the helpful survey poll on this page.)

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Comments

Three Angel’s Tube

Unfortunately, like the majority of SDA expositions on these 70 Weeks, this presentation was
also marked by the typical unsubstantiated, conclusory statements; deficient exegesis, if any; sly
proof-texting; undocumented, even for “new light”, arguments; a ‘majoring in the minors’ but a
feeble anchoring of major points; among other unacceptable exegetical shortcomings....

...Unless one is ‘preaching to the choir’ such an actual anaemic presentation does not convince
those that it is meant to reach. There is absolutely no excuse for such “cotton-candy” preaching in
the SDA Church today.
http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2008/07/biblical-interpretation-of-daniels-70.html

May 29, 2010

Sister Persch
Read your comments on our video regarding the 2300 days recently posted at
3angelstube.org. It is my encouragement to you that as we each labor in the Master's
vineyard together that we lift one another up not only in prayer but also in words of
encouragement. Thank you brother.

I can understand your “vineyard-labourers” response to my comments*, especially as this is the

deemed “politically correct” thing to say, however in the base sectarian approach that is
pervasively subscribed to and used by most preachers in this Church, where everyone says what
they think is correct, which then only results in disaccording sound of the trumpet and speaks
more against our supposed “incontrovertible prophetic truth”, especially for this prophecy, than
anything else, people are literally dying and/or are continuing to wander more deeply in vital
error because clear, substantiated and objectively convincing/convicting proofs of, especially, this
key prophecy is not, and cannot (harmoniously) be made by SDA preachers.

Pastor David Perch repeatedly says that the ‘dates where correct, but the event was incorrect” and
that is indeed true with the Millerites, however it is still also true that while these dates are
correct, the proofs given for them and their events are, upon more in depth analysis, clearly not.’
And this is the paramount reason why the majority of Christians do not accept our, even
gloriously Messianic, interpretation of this prophecy.

Also see my other response comments on 3angelstube at:

*See: http://www.3angelstube.com/video/1092/2300-day-Prophecy-457-BC--34-AD

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Three Angel’s Tube
As I have said, there is absolutely no excuse for an SDA preacher, or even Scholar, to be
deficient in any area of Biblical Research, especially with this prophecy. It is because of the
Church’s sectarianism and lack of godly collaboration that such, actually detrimental, non-truths
are still being preached from SDA pulpits. This may impress, and even convince the uniformed,
however, it surely does not convince those who know of the many objections to the current main
SDA “proofs.”

Arguments that are not Exegetically/Biblically deeply rooted will inevitably, one day be
themselves uprooted and/or cause those who have relied on them to be greatly shaken, in a sure
to come “testing time” when such inaccuracy will be widely exposed by others who are more
informed. And while people may be “poor,” that does not mean that they have to be given subpar
spiritual food. Jesus Himself shared his most valuable “spiritual treasures” with the poor.

So it is the highest responsibility of any SDA preacher to make sure that they properly do their
work of “seed-sowing”, instructing and faith building. The times demand nothing less! (See also
my response to the blog comments at
http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2008/07/biblical-interpretation-of-daniels-70.html).

June 1, 2010
Some people need to see the detailed/documented truth to (relatively speaking) “set them free.”

May 29, 2013

"foundational cornerstone in the Christian Faith"""""""

Im sorry but this is incorrect. The majority of Christians dont even know this prophecy in
detail. It is the cornerstone of nothing. Our foundation is found in the indwelling of the
Holy spirit. It is the Spirit that confirms that Christ was exactly who he said he was.--as
Christ said--"if anyone chooses to follow me he will know my teaching is from the Father"

If our faith is built on prophecy --then all we need to do is interpret it wrong to shake that
faith. Our faith in Christ has become fact as soon as the Holy Spirit is present within us.
We need not prophecies, archeological evidence, historical evidence, or clever arguments.
Those things might sway an unbeliever to turn toward God instead of away--but if faith is
built upon that--that person is not yet a Christian. These are the people who say they once
believed but dont anymore--as John says "they left us because they were never really with
us--meaning they didnt not have the Spirit.

Is not possible for a real Christian to unbelieve--you may curse who God is-- committing
apostasy--but you KNOW Christ is God--that cant be unbelieved once the Holy Spirit
confirm it in your min.

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I certainly hope that Jesus Christ is a truth in your mind as much as your own
name---otherwise you are praying to a God that only *might be there.

May 29, 2013

Well, “I’m sorry”, but, succinctly-said, your “Spirit first” view is not actually substantiate by the
Bible. God has always worked from an objectively demonstrable basis first and then seals the
experience with the Holy Spirit. In the days since Creation when He then personally interacted
with man, He Himself has counseled fulfilled prophecy for establishing a foundation of faith in
Him. (E.g. Isa 46:9-11); Peter also put fulfilled prophecy determinatively ahead Spiritual
experience (2 Pet 1:19) and prophecy itself is to be established from the already validated word of
God (Isa 8:20; 2 Thess 5:19-22). So I see that the order of Knowing God and the Truth is as
following: The Bible and prophecy rightly interpreted by the Bible and then other new Spiritual
Experience. And as there is no greater prophecy in the Bible than the 70 Weeks due to the fact
that it objectively confirms that Jesus was the prophesied Messiah of the OT Scriptures, then I do
see it as the “foundational Cornerstone of the Christian Faith”.

The Devil can easily counterfeit spiritual experience, and only the Word of God rightly studied
out can expose him in these instances. So I logically can’t, and don’t, put such experiences over
the Bible and its Prophecies as they are the tools by which any Spiritual experience is to be
validated. You one indeed properly studies the teachings of the Bible, the correct interpretation of
its prophecy can be accurately ascertained.

Also succinctly said, all pertinent passages and examples considered, I don’t see a “once saved
always saved” view as being Biblical.

So I do believe in Jesus, primarily through His prophetic fulfilling, pointedly/most objectively,

the 70 Weeks, then through the Biblical teaching which He upheld and expandingly taught (cf.
Matt 5:17-20), and finally all that is sealed by my own personal experience with Christ, through,
as He Himself taught, the recalling and confirming work of the Holy Spirit (John 16:8-15) which
can only be correctly recognize if what He reveals is in harmony with the Bible. Any other
approach, or order of validating, leaves people subject to following after the private ideas of men.
(Perhaps my related prior comments in <a
href=http://www.adventistonline.com/xn/detail/1451550:Comment:1349033>here</a>
(Paragraph {20}) on 1 John 2:20 may be further helpful to you.)

May 29, 2013

As that 70 Weeks video on 3 Angels Tube has since been deleted see <a
href=http://web.archive.org/web/20111228231534/http://www.3angelstube.com/video/1092/2300
-day-Prophecy-457-BC--34-AD#comments>this archive link</a> for it and the submitted
comments [click on "Comment (10)" link]

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May 25, 2014

You seem to indicate in the article that Darius the Mede, and King Cyrus the Great, are one
and the same person.

I notice that among the books you list as your favorites, is Prophets and Kings. However it
does appear that that book differentiates between them.

"Babylon was besieged by Cyrus, nephew of Darius the Mede...". (Prophets and Kings
p.523)
I respectfully invite any clarification/response that you might have on this.

May 26, 2014

-As stated/discussed in <a

href=http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/seventh-day-adventist/T1MEKES3SR7J0VH49/post1
7>here</a> until I do further study on this issue, the comprehensive evidence I see thus far allows
for “Darius the Mede” to be Cyrus the Persian.

-I suspect here that EGW in PK 523.1 was merely echoing an understanding of her time, probably
Josephus in Antiquities 10:11.4 [#248] with an understanding that “kinsman” there, in relation to
Cyrus meant “uncle”. But that statement by Josephus may not be reliable, as are many of his
other Medo-Persian Kings identifications. And in regard to EGW, this would be similar to the
(technical) identification error in PK 572.2 cited/discussed in/from <a
href=http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2009/11/proof-is-in-bible.html#EGWerrors>here</a> that
she made in regards to the Medo-Persian of Israel’s Second Return: Artaxerxes I (Longimanus)
(Ezra 4:7)

So I am seeing that there is concrete evidence which points otherwise than a uncle-nephew
association. Perhaps rather a father-son one. Perhaps it is only the precise nature of the actual
relationship between Cambyses II (Darius the Mede) and Cyrus which needs to be specified. E.g.,
in the Bible, a brother could lawfully (also) be the biological father of his brother’s son/children
if the brother had died before having any children. Perhaps the Medo-Persians also had such
Levirate laws. Or the issue may here rather involve Cyrus’ adoption of his nephew....I’ll have to
study/research this more....

May 26, 2014

See also the statements made <a

href=http://www.whiteestate.org/books/mol/Chapt33.html#W._C._White’s_1911_Statement>her
e</a> and <a
href=http://www.whiteestate.org/books/mol/Chapt33.html#No_Claim_to_Verbal_Inspiration>he
re</a> which clarify that: ‘EGW never understood, nor intended, her writings to be an authority

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on historical dates and events. She instead relied on other people’s research for such details.’

<a href=>here</a>

Weblinks
http://biblical70weeks.blogspot.com

http://www.aua.ac.ke/index.php/faculty-and-staffs.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20140408082518/http://www.aua.ac.ke/index.php/faculty-and-staffs.
html
The Chronology of Daniel 9:24-47
http://atsjats.org/transaction_detail.php?id=27
https://www.atsjats.org/store/product/8

http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2008/07/biblical-interpretation-of-daniels-70.html?showComment
=1401137793667#c8676405773036868901
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_the_Great
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambyses_II

Verse 24
https://www.facebook.com/notes/marcos-c-thaler/vindicating-the-year-day-principle-of-prophetic
-interpretation/10153975366571979/
http://www.secretsunsealed.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/yeardayprinciple.pdf
1. Is the Year/Day Principle Biblical? by Pr. Stephen Bohr - Knowledge Shall Be Increased
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqgwvkRcvM0
http://1844madesimple.org/
2300 Day Prophecy, Daniel 8 - By Clifford Goldstein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApbTxSWI1dw

Verse 25
The Messiah
http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2008/07/biblical-interpretation-of-daniels-70.html?showComment
=1401148593166#c1552898908543907755
GC 327.1
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/132.1450#1492
DA 109.1
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.432#433

4000+2000 Time is running out...- Doug Batchelor

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHTS6ElIE4I&t=27m18s

http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2009/11/actual-year-of-christs-birth.html

DA 109.3
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/130.432#435

Notelinks
Note #2 - Real Implication of Day Year Principle
http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2010/01/theological-views-commentary.html#SBohr
SC 105.2 - God’s allowance of doubt
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/108.422#424

Note #3 - October 13, 1844 Date

GSAM 180.3
http://text.egwwritings.org/publication.php?pubtype=Book&bookCode=GSAM&lang=en&pagen
umber=180
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/1140.1103#1105
GSAM 524.2
http://text.egwwritings.org/publication.php?pubtype=Book&bookCode=GSAM&lang=en&pagen
umber=524
https://m.egwwritings.org/en/book/1140.3383#3442

Note #4 - Spiritual Evidence

http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2010/11/world-of-morons.html
http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2010/01/theological-views-commentary.html#fluff
11. Landmarks of Prophecy - Cleansing the Sanctuary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QMhm692rss&t=1h6m43s

Note #5 - Spiritual Evidence

http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2010/11/world-of-morons.html
2014-09-06 Fresno Central SDA Service - Pastor Stephen Bohr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIOSrCMjg8w&t=53m6s
http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2010/01/theological-views-commentary.html#SBohr
http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2010/12/my-first-vision.html#70Weeksproof

Note #6 - Talmud on Temple Desolation

http://therefinersfire.org/talmudic_evidence_of_messiah.htm
http://www.windowview.org/hmny/pgs/talmuds.30ce.html

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Interlinks
http://njkproject.blogspot.com/2008/07/biblical-interpretation-of-daniels-70.html#baptismyear

Notes
1. [1] Dr. Owusu-Antwi’s book is available in some libraries and/or is obtainable through an
interlibrary loan. (See e.g., in worldcat.org).

2. [2] As with most so-called “deep” studies by Stephen Bohr, it is actually exegetically, if even,
shallow, and involves mostly smug circular reasoning (e.g. the SOP says so), as indeed is the
case for literally all of these day-year “proof” claims. (e.g. “it works out”; “our prophetic
interpretations/applications require that much time’; etc). Really the only relatively objective and
non-circular Biblical proof remains the precedence statements in Ezek 4:6 and Num 14:34. Yet
that cannot be claimed as direct proof, and that greatly bothers SDAs which serves to make them
overstate their claim/case and so easily leads others to summarily reject it. Indeed there is no
explicit directive in the Bible that time elements in Apocalyptic prophecies should be converted
from days to years. That is manifestly because God always knew that all of these prophecies
could have unraveled by the end of the First Century A.D. if the Christian Church then had been
faithful and done/finished the work. But as they did not, God’s also planned for protracted,
Church History application of, pointedly here, these chronological elements would apply. And it
would be those who are most in tune with His Truth who would perceive and understand that the
Biblical precedence that ‘a prophetic day can represent a literal year’ can validly be applied here.

As per my wider Theological understanding, confirmed by the SOP statement that ‘God
has/will always leave an opportunity for doubt’ (SC 105.2), as indeed variously
seen/implemented throughout the Bible, indeed literarily with the Bible itself, and given how the
chronologies and events of Bible prophecies are so precise when interpreted Historicistly, that
clearly is God’s way of leaving an opportunity to no see these clear Truths by those who through
various other oppositions to God’s Truth, prefer not to believe these prophetic fulfilments. (Cf.
Matt 16:1-4)

3. [3] Cf. 1905 JNL, GSAM 180.3-181.1; 524.2

4. [4] Again indifferently complacently & “blissfully”|ignoramusly|moronically, idiotically, yet

innately/naturally/pridefully guilefully: “fluffly” (~=EW 36.2), -indeed just as per the
indifferently profiteering so-called “work” of the SDA ‘dens of, moreover con artist, thieves,’
(John 2:16|Matt 21:13|Ezek 13); reclaimed here by Doug Batchelor.

5. [5] To my own (fleshly) “disappointment”, my prior belief that ‘Jesus was prophetically timely
baptized in the Fall/October of 27 AD, indeed just had to be abandoned in the light of the
Biblical, and also, manifestly direct, SOP evidence, as related earlier. Sure it would surfacely
seem more convincing and convicting to continue to, now indifferently, make this ‘more
powerful’ claim, -(as selectively, inherently preferably “moronically”, “choir-

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preachingly”/outrightly circularly smugly declaratively done here[53:06-59:20ff] by Stephen
Bohr), but the research history of my dealing with this prophecy has foundationally been to have
the most objectively, i.e., non-circularly, demonstrable evidence as possible, pointedly as I am
endeavoring to convince others of the validity of this ‘Fully Messianic’ prophetic reckoning. So
“blissfully” ignoring contraring evidence is not at all seen, nor deemed, to be a viable
course/alternative for me, whatever the cost.*
And in fact, I am more deeply seeing from this sort of “monkey wrench”, (in terms of all-
precise fulfillements) in this overall interpreted chronology, that here also, God had effectuated
His consistent, faith-testing/proving principle that He will always leave room for doubt in
whatever He does. (GC 527.2; SC 105.2). So here, while a baptism of Christ Himself in the Fall
of 27AD would virtually remove most doubt, the evident, actual Biblical reality that it was the
(possible, even probable) start of John’s Forerunning Messianic preaching which had
(seamlessly) provided the timely fulfillement, does indeed provide the ‘hook for doubt’, so that
no one will be faith-lessly “convicted” (“against their will”) by merely the “tangible”
chronological evidence of this prophecy, but rather truly, primarily, by its (sealing/anchoring)
Spiritual (cf. John 6:26) Fully-Messianic “running theme”. (John 6:34-35ff; cf. John 6:41ff)

* I myself had priorly been claiming as an explanation for the evidentially incontrovertible gap
between a baptism of Christ in late-Sep/early-October 27 A.D. and the start of his journeying
right after coming out of the wilderness, ca. 20-25 days before the Passover of 28 A.D. that ‘the
Holy Spirit probably did not drive Christ into the wilderness, for 40 days, in what was the
significantly colder, even with possible snowfall, winter months. Weather information showed
that the ca. 1250-1750 feet above see level Judean Wilderness had average temperatures ranging
from only 6C (43F) to 11C (53F). (E.g. as, still validly applicable, this would be just like the
‘pro-Fall (Feast of Tabernacles) & contra-December (25)’ Christmas argument which points out
that: shepherds at Christ’s birth were probably not keeping their flock outside, overnight, in late
December. (Luke 2:8ff)). So I thus, at “best”, had had to (contra-Biblically) posit that Jesus had
not gone to the wilderness “immediately” after His Baptism, but ca. 3-4 (winter) months later, in
January or February of 28 A.D.

6. [6] Relatedly, and most interestingly enough, Judaism has a couple of independently recorded
statements in their Jerusalem and Babylonian Talmuds that: ‘miraculous signs in the Temple
ended 40 years before its 70 A.D. destruction’ (see here and here), which if, as correctly due, is
reckoned inclusively, (indeed as Jewish people do), began to occur in 31 [and not 30] A.D., -
which is the accuate year of when Jesus declared the Temple to be desolate of God’s presence.
(Matt 23:37-38) [Prior to Him going to the Mount of Olives where He would elaborate on its
coming utter destruction. Matt 24:1-2ff = Ezek 11:22; cf. DA 829.2a].

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