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Culture Documents
Number 2
1975
Recommended Citation
GoodKnight, Glen (1975) ""Death and the Desire for Deathlessness"," Mythlore: A Journal of J.R.R. Tolkien,
C.S. Lewis, Charles Williams, and Mythopoeic Literature: Vol. 3 : No. 2 , Article 4.
Available at: https://dc.swosu.edu/mythlore/vol3/iss2/4
Abstract
Reproduces a letter from Tolkien to Dr. Herbert Schiro (later included in Letters, but at this time previously
unpublished). Discusses Tolkien’s assertion that The Lord of the Rings is at heart about death and the
desire for deathlessness, and speculates on its survival as a literary classic.
Additional Keywords
Immortality and mortality in J.R.R. Tolkien; Tolkien, J.R.R. Letter to Herbert Schiro, 11 Nov 1957
This article is available in Mythlore: A Journal of J.R.R. Tolkien, C.S. Lewis, Charles Williams, and Mythopoeic
Literature: https://dc.swosu.edu/mythlore/vol3/iss2/4
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f o r D e a t h l e s s n e s s " T h e
C o u n s e l o f E lro n d b y G le n G o o d K n ig h t
I w ould lik e to th a n k D r. H e r b e r t S c h iro fo r S in ce T o lk ie n h a s d ie d p h y s ic a lly , in w h at
s h a r in g th e fo llo w in g l e t t e r h e r e c e iv e d f r o m J . R . R . s e n s e m a y h e b e s a id to b e " d e a t h l e s s ? " T h e r e
T o lk ie n , and g iv in g p e r m is s io n th a t i t a p p e a r in a r e t h r e e su c h w a y s: in h is p e r s o n , in h is w o rk s ,
p r in t. H e w as a y o ung m e d ic a l s tu d e n t w hen th e an d in h is r e a d e r s .
l e t t e r w as r e c e iv e d . A s w a s in d ic a te d by T o lk ie n p e r s o n a lly a n d a s
w a s show n in th e v a r io u s s e r v i c e s c o n d u c te d f o r
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I w as d e lig h te d w ith y o u r l e t t e r , w h ich th is m a t t e r is of u ltim a te im p o r ta n c e to e a c h i n
I s h a ll c e r ta in ly k e e p . T h e r e is n o th in g d iv id u a l, i t is beyond th e s c o p e of t h is o r g a n iz a
m u ch r e a l l y to s a y (beyond r e c o r d in g th e tio n to c o m m e n t f u r th e r .
p le a s u r e th a t y o u r e n jo y m e n t an d s y m p a th y D o u b tle s s m an y w ill s a y th a t T o lk ie n " liv e s on
g iv e m e ), a s you u n d e r s ta n d th e m a t t e r so in h is w o rk s . " We c a n s a y w ith r e a s o n a b le c e r
w e ll. T h e r e is no 's y m b o lis m ' o r c o n s c io u s ta in ty th a t L otR is a c l a s s i c ; b u t e v e n th a t d o e s
a lle g o r y in m y s to r y . A lle g o ry of th e s o r t n o t g u a r a n te e im m o r ta lity e i t h e r f o r th e w o rk o r
" fiv e w iz a rd s = fiv e s e n s e s " is w holly f o r i t s a u th o r. B e in g a c l a s s i c is a d a n g e ro u s
fo r e ig n to m y w ay of th in k in g . T h e r e w e re th in g f o r a book: i t s s u b s ta n c e te n d s to be f o r
fiv e w iz a rd s and t h a t 's j u s t a u n iq u e p a r t of g o tte n an d i t s e le m e n ts of f o r m e x p lo ite d . Such
h i s to r y . T o a s k if th e O re s 'a r e ' C o m m u n b o oks a ls o te n d to b e c o lle c te d in to l i s t s of "good
i s t s is to m e a s s e n s ib le a s a s k in g if C o m b o o k s" of th e kin d e n jo in e d a s r e q u ir e d re a d in g by
m u n is ts a r e O r e s . E n g lis h t e a c h e r s f a r a n d w id e. (In d eed , L otR i t
T h a t t h e r e 's no a lle g o r y d o es n o t, of s e lf is w e ll on to b e in g a b s o r b e d by th a t L i t e r a r y
c o u r s e , s a y t h e r e is no a p p lic a b ility . T h e r e E s ta b lis h m e n t so d e s p is e d by L e w is , w h ich s o
a lw a y s i s . A nd s in c e I h a v e no t m ad e th e o ften c o m e s b e tw e e n th e good r e a d e r and th e book
s tr u g g le w h o lly u n e q u iv o c a l: s lo th and s t u f it f o r h i m . ) F u r t h e r , th e c l a s s i c s a r e p e c u lia r ly
p id ity a m o n g h o b b its , p rid e and ((ille g ib le )) v u ln e r a b le to th e " D eath of th e T h o u sa n d C u ts "
am o n g E lv e s , g ru d g e an d g re e d in D w a rf- in flic te d by l i t e r a r y " h ig h e r c r i t i c s " in th e fo r m
h e a r t s , and fo lly an d w ic k e d n e s s a m o n g th e s o w e ll p a ro d ie d in " T h e G e n e s is of T h e L o rd of
"K in g s of M en, " and t r e a c h e r y and p o w e r- th e R in g s , " p u b lish e d in M y th lo re 9.
lu s t ev e n am o n g th e " W iz a r d s " , t h e r e is I T h e s u r v iv a l of a n a u th o r " in h is w o rk s " is
s u p p o s e a p p lic a b ility in m y s t o r y to p r e s e n t ev e n m o r e d o u b tfu l. H o w e v e r e x h a u s tiv e , a m a n 's
tim e s . B ut I sh o u ld s a y , if a s k e d , th e ta le w o rk s c a n n o t be m o r e th a n a p a le p e n u m b ra of h is
is n o t r e a l l y ab o u t P o w e r and D o m in io n : r e a l p e r s o n a lity . E v e n tu a lly L otR — a s a c l a s s i c
th a t o nly s e ts th e w h e e ls going; it is ab o u t — is do o m ed to f a ll " if n o t in to o b liv io n , y e t in to
D e a th and th e d e s i r e f o r d e a th l e s s n e s s . th e g h o s t- lif e of th e m u s e u m a n d th e s p e c i a l i s t 's
W hich i s h a r d ly m o r e th a t to s a y i t 's a ta le stu d y " (a s L e w is s u g g e s te d in a n o th e r c o n n e c tio n ).
w r itte n by a M a n ! T h e L o rd o f th e R in g s 's p o s itio n a s a c l a s s i c
Y o u rs s in c e r e ly , is s e c u r e d by i t s n a tu r e ; but w h e th e r, b e in g a
J . R . R . T o lk ie n c l a s s i c , i t c o n tin u e s to " w o rk w ith p o w e r on th e
s o u ls of m e n , " an d th e r e b y a c h ie v e th e o n ly r e a l
T h e ab o v e l e t t e r , p re v io u s ly u n p u b lish e d , g iv e s d e a th le s s n e s s p o s s ib le in tim e , is d e te r m in e d by
a new and v a lu a b le in s ig h t in to J . R . R . T o lk ie n 's i t s r e a d e r s . How w ill th e s u b s ta n c e of T o lk ie n 's
m o tiv a tio n fo r w ritin g T h e L o rd of th e R in g s . w o rk s b e r e c e iv e d by e a c h r e a d e r , a n d to w h at
M ost c r i t i c i s m h a s d e a lt w ith L otR a s a book e x te n t w ill h e p e r m it th a t s u b s ta n c e to a ffe c t h is
"ab o u t p o w e r, " w hich is n o t i n c o r r e c t , b u t w hich p e r s o n a lity an d h is view of life ? N othing i s r e a l l y
in lig h t of th e ab o v e is s e e n to be in c o m p le te ; th e a liv e , in tim e , u n le s s i t i s in c a r n a te in p eo p le;
w o rk is a ls o ab o u t " d e a th an d th e d e s i r e fo r an d th u s th e "good in fe c tio n " of T o lk ie n liv e s on
d e a th le s s n e s s ." a n d s p r e a d s th ro u g h u s — n o t m e r e ly th e m e m
T h is d e s i r e is in d e e d a u n iv e r s a l h u m a n d e s i r e , b e r s of th is S o c ie ty , b u t a ll th o s e who h av e tr u ly
and h a s b e e n s h a r e d in a un iq u e w ay by T o lk ie n r e c e iv e d th a t w h ich T o lk ie n h a s so tru th fu lly and
th ro u g h h is w o rk s — th a t i s , no one e ls e h a s m a s te r f u lly g iv en .
sp o k e n T o lk ie n 's b e lie f s in T o lk ie n 's m o d e to E a s t e r 1975
T o lk ie n 's tim e .
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