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qqquaker (Computer) (OP) 12 Apr 02 11:06

Can anyones tell me what is the difference between A105 &
A216 . I tried to purchase A105 body type ball valve but
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they only offer A216 GR WCB and said it will be same

material. Is this true .
Sincerely,

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mgp (Mechanical) 12 Apr 02 11:50

A105 is forged carbon steel
per ASME material group 1.1
The equivalent casting is A216 WCB, i.e.
unless you have any problems in buying a cast body valve
the material is ok.

regards
Mogens

5 kstaylor (Mechanical) 12 Apr 02 12:03

ASTM A105 and A216-WCB (or their ASME SA
equivalents) are two different product forms. A/SA105 is a
forged material specification while A/SA216-WCB is a cast
material specification. The chemical composition for each
material is essentially the same (low carbon steel) but there
may be some very minor differences in exact ranges of
minor elements. Get copies of both material specifications
and check them out for yourself.

What size valve are you trying to buy ? What is the fluid
service and design conditions of your application?

If you are purchasing a commercially mass produced

valve then you will be subject to what the valve
manufacturer produces or has in stock. Valves 1/2" through
2" NPS are generally forged body valves. If you are buying
a valve larger than 2" NPS then you are generally going to
get a cast body. If you really want a forged valve body for
your ball valve that is larger than 2" NPS, you will probably
need to go to a specialty valve manufacturer and have one
custom engineered to your specifications. Such companies
include Valvetron (Houston), Valvetech (Houston), and QAP
(Oakland, CA), among others in the USA. I am less familiar
with companies outside of the US. There may be some
companies that offer both cast and forged bodies for ball
valves in sizes larger than 2" NPS without going the custom
engineering route but I am not personnally familiar with
any.

Evaluate your application and judge whether a cast body

will work for you or if you still need a forged body.

VenPipingEng (Mechanical) 20 May 02 12:37

The answer of KSTaylor gives you the full scenario
regarding to this two material specifications, when it comes
to valve bodies material.

Please, be aware of the facility you are purchasing this

valve for MUST have a "Piping Material Specification"
(commonly referred as: "Piping Class") where you will find
the valve caracteristics for every single service in "your"
plant ... use it!! ... so you'll keep using the same materials
the plant already have installed (for operation &
maintenance this is a very good practice). The Piping Class
will also let you know wheter you need to buy a flanged;
socket-welded or screwed valve.

Failures (Mechanical) 24 May 02 06:33

What is difference between API 5L Gr.B and ASTM A106
Gr.B pipes ?
Milan

sadra (Petroleum) 3 Jun 02 04:50

A106 Gr.B always is seamless but API 5L Gr.B can be
seamless or welded manufactured.Mechanical & chemical
properties for these two kind of pipes also slightly different.

qqquaker (Computer) (OP) 8 Aug 02 12:22

Thank you all.
Your infos are valuable to me .
Sincerely,

abbver98 (Mechanical) 13 Aug 02 07:46

they are all a carbon steel.
A105 is forged, 206WCB is a casting steel.
Keep in mind that the defects aren't the same none the
method of detecting them.
With WCB material body will be thicker than with A105
(factor of 0.8 and the low mechanical properties for casting
).

2 azeem (Computer) 30 Aug 02 12:02

if ur pressure is not more than 500 psi then u can use a-216
wcb valves, 150 or 300 class, but if u would like to use more
than 2000 psi u have not any other option except a-105
forged steel valve,
a-216 valves are avilable and manufacture from 150 class
to 600 class
means max working pressure is 900 psi
and a-105 forged steel valves are manufactured for 3000
psi, 6000 psi, 9000 psi, and 12000 psi,,working pressure,,
after that pressure there is no more option excepth needle
valve.

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