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Nosebleed Self-Help

Suggestions from other Sufferers


We’ve been listening. At the HHT Foundation and at HHT Centers, we hear
daily cries for help with your nosebleeds. Also, we hear many suggestions
and ideas about what seems to help.

N osebleeds are a problem for normal clotting in response to a nose- Reducing Nosebleeds
almost everyone with HHT. For bleed. The formation of a clot is nature’s Ointments
many they are manageable over way to stop a nosebleed. If the bleeding Most nosebleed sufferers as well as ENT
a lifetime with just self-applied pressure spot is in the front part of the nose, it doctors believe that keeping mucous
to the side of the nose at the time of a can often be stopped by applying pres- membrane moist and lubricated helps
nosebleed. But for others they can be sure by pushing on the outside of the reduce the frequency of nosebleeds.
the cause of anemia (low blood count) nose. In general, this is preferable to One sufferer summarized his tactic
or can affect the quality of life. Those packing the nose with tissue or cotton. regarding this point by saying “You have
who fall into this latter category of This is because when tissue or cotton is to keep it really moist always. Better that
course seek methods to stop or limit the removed it often sticks to the newly ointment drips from the nose than
nosebleeds in order to avoid the ENT’s formed clot and causes a “rebleed”. blood”.
office or hospital emergency room as Additionally, pieces of tissue might
much as possible! We report here some remain in the nose and be a source of Ointments are usually gently applied to
products that are mostly available with- bacteria and infection. If it is necessary the inside of the nose 3-5 times per day
out prescription that patients have to place something in your nose to stop with the tip of the pinky finger or a
reported to be helpful. the bleeding, it is best to use a product q-tip.
specifically formulated for this purpose.
The management and treatment of nose- Several are listed below and others are EXAMPLES: Vaseline, KY-Jelly, Aquaphor,
bleeds in HHT unfortunately has not available for use by physicians. Bactriban, paraffin cream
been well studied. This is an area of
clinical research that desperately needs External pressure works only when the There is ongoing discussion among both
randomized clinical trials comparing dif- bleeding originates from the front part patients and doctors about which type
ferent approaches. This means that very of the nose, and therefore is sometimes of ointment is best. Some recommend
little can be recommended to manage not enough. Patients and physicians an ointment such as Bactriban which
nosebleeds which has been studied in alike have been frustrated for years at contains some antibiotic. But some rec-
terms of its safety or effectiveness. Yet the lack of products available to patients ommend against this- other than for a
we understand that in the meantime, to help manage their own nosebleeds in short time when there are signs or spe-
HHT patients are calling for help and this situation. Some of the products list- cific risks for infection. Some prefer a
suggestions. ed below are not new, but several are petroleum based ointment such as
only recently available to HHT patients. Vaseline because they tend to last longer
“Less is more” is a good guiding princi- We focus mostly on those available than a water based ointment such as
pal in the management of HHT nose- without prescription, or that are widely Aquaphor. Others prefer Aquaphor due
bleeds. Too much, too early or too prescribed by primary care doctors for to a potential small risk that a petroleum
aggressive treatment of nosebleeds can patient use. based ointment if inhaled into the lungs
actually damage the nose and worsen could cause lung inflammation.
the nosebleeds later in life. Since there A general rule is that there is probably
is currently no permanent cure for the not a general rule. There is some trial Home humidifier
nosebleeds of HHT, the goal is to and error involved with successful self- Most ENT doctors and many patients
reduce the frequency and severity. management of recurring nosebleeds recommend this to help keep the inside
and what works for one person might lining of the nose from getting dry.
Most nosebleeds stop with simple pres- not work for someone else.
sure over the bleeding point. Since see Nosebleed Self-Helf, page 10
HHT is a disorder of the blood vessel,
not the blood itself, most patients have

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Nosebleed Self-Help, from page 9
Saline Nasal Sprays/Rinses • Cod Liver Oil—A number of TraumaDEX/Bleed-X (same product,
Used to keep the mucous membrane of patients have reported that taking it by different packaging, not marketed to
the nose moist and clean mouth has been helpful. There has been public- only to/for physicians and emer-
no controlled or published study of the gency professionals)
EXAMPLES: Ary, Ocean Spray, Ponaris, affects of Cod Liver Oil or similar fatty
NeilMed Sinus Rinse acids on nosebleeds. Yunnan Paiyao—chinese “herb”, comes
in powder form, applied with cotton
swab to bleed. Although we have heard
Stopping a Nosebleed
Corticosteroid Nasal Sprays of several patients who report success in
These are anti-inflammatory medica- Hemostatic products using this, it is a combination of many
tions, and their primary use is to treat These are products specially made to herbs that have not been tested for use
inflammation in the nose caused by stop bleeding once it has begun. It is in the nose. There are some reports that
allergies. In an HHT patient without important for effectiveness and safety to it can cause irritation even when used
allergies they are probably not helpful. follow directions on the package care- on the skin. Use, particularly repeated
In fact, one of their side affects is drying fully with these products. However, in use, on the very sensitive mucous mem-
of the mucous membrane- in general case of brisk arterial bleeding, the pres- brane of the nose might cause prob-
something to avoid. When needed for sure of the flow may prevent the pow- lems. It is probably safer to use one of
treatment of nasal allergy symptoms, der or sponge from remaining in place, the similar powder products above that
most come in an “AQ” (aqueous) form and bleeding may continue. has been specifically developed for use
which helps decrease the drying side in the nose.
effect. Many of these products can be difficult
to find in your local pharmacy, but often Decongestant Nasal Sprays
EXAMPLES: Beconase, Vancenase, Rhinocort, pharmacies are willing to special order a (oxymetazoline or xylometazoline)
Nasarel, Flonase, Nasonex, Nasacort, product if asked. Otherwise, most of
Tri Nasal these products/companies have web- EXAMPLES: Afrin, Dristan, Duramist,
sites from which you can order directly. Genasal, Neo-Synephrine, Vicks Sinex,
Twice-A-Day, Otrivin
Vitamins/Supplements/Foods • Gauze/Sponge Products
None of these have been shown by These are over the counter, dissolvable These nasal sprays act by constricting
studies to help, but each has been men- packing products. They promote clot for- blood vessels which reduces blood flow
tioned as helpful by multiple patients. In mation and then “gelify” for easy, non- to that area and can help a nosebleed
most cases there is at least “biologic sticky removal to minimize rebleeding. stop once started. Occasional use to help
plausibility” for them to be helpful and stop a bad nosebleed is probably ok and
they are not known to be harmful in EXAMPLES: NasalCEASE, Seal-On even recommended by some ENTs. But
recommended amounts or doses. ongoing use can actually make matters
• Folic Acid/B vitamins • Powder Products worse due to the “rebound” affect asso-
ciated with this class of nasal sprays.
• Flavonoids These products were originally devel-
“Rebound” refers to the fact that about 3
EXAMPLES: Rutin, Soy oped for use in trauma cases—to help
days after they are used, the swelling
promote clotting and create an artificial
and congestion in the nose actually
• Genistein/Soy—A number of “bandaide” on wounds caused by acci-
increases and can last for about a week.
patients have reported that taking genis- dents. Some should clearly not be used
The risk for nosebleeds during this time
tein (a soy derived product) or eating inside the nose because they create an
may actually be increased. Prolonged
soy has decreased their nosebleeds. One exothermic (heat causing) reaction
use might even cause permanent dam-
unpublished, small but radomized, dou- which would irritate the nose. Some
age to the mucosa.
ble blind study showed a possible small have been successfully tried by HHT
decrease in the duration of nosebleeds patients and are made of substances that
Icepacks/Ice chips
in HHT patients receiving soy protein are not thought to be harmful to the lin-
Ice packs or ice chips within the mouth
isolate (29 grams of SPI/40 mg genistein ing of the nose.
or on the back of the neck have each
daily). However, the frequency and been shown by at least one small study
severity of nosebleeds was not shown to EXAMPLES:
to decrease blood flow to the nasal
change in those taking soy. There has Nosebleed QR (sold OTC and specifical-
mucosa. Although theoretically this
not been a study of the affect of soy on ly for nosebleeds)
could help slow a nosebleed- there is lit-
nosebleeds published in a medical jour- tle evidence or consensus among HHT
nal to date. patients or doctors about whether this
helps in practice.

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Blood pressure Things to avoid: This article also has not addressed the
Monitor, and control if needed to Any medication that interferes with nor- monitoring and management of anemia
decrease “stress” on the abnormal blood mal clotting should be avoided or taken and iron levels. This is yet another
vessels (telangiectasias). only if the risk of not taking the med- whole issue. But bear in mind- some
ication outweighs the risk of increasing HHT patients will need iron therapy
the severity of nosebleeds in a specific monitored by a doctor, no matter what
Stress techniques they and their ENT doctor
patient’s situation. There is almost no
Many people are convinced that they medication that a patient with HHT have tried to manage their nosebleeds.
have more nosebleeds during times of should “never” take, but many that
stress—both good stress such as the should not be taken if other reasonable This article was possible because you
month they got married and bad stress alternatives exist for the problem at have shared your experiences. If some-
such as the day they were fired. hand. Non Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory thing important was left out in your
Acupuncture and biofeedback has been Drugs (NSAIDs), including aspirin, are opinion, we would be grateful if you
advocated by some patients to decrease probably the most common drugs that would let us know.
stress and increase their sense of calm can interfere with normal clotting. Also,
and well-being. There may be a rela- be careful when deciding to take a sup-
tionship between stress, increased blood plement or herb that it does not have Compiled and written by:
pressure and nosebleeds. “blood thinning” properties or interfere Jamie McDonald, M.S., Certified
with normal coagulation of the blood. Genetic Counselor, Co-Director HHT
Other general measures Center, University of Utah, USA
Be prepared. Carry things with you Some patients have reported that eating
which might be useful in case of nose- foods containing salicylic or ascorbinic Editorial assistance by:
bleed- in a handy container that you can acid increase their nosebleeds. While it Urban W. Geisthoff, M.D., Dept of
open easily. Swallowing blood is not is known that these substances can Otolaryngology, University of the
harmful, but too much can make you slightly decrease the coagulation prop- Saarland, Homburg, Germany.
feel nauseous. Some sufferers carry a erties of blood, the practical significance Leland Johnson, M.D., Dept of
swimmer’s nose clamp to temporarily is not clear. Due to discrepant reports Otolaryngology, University of Utah,
stop blood from running out of their from patients and lack of good informa- USA
nose, so they can have both hands free tion, no general recommendation can be
to access their supplies. Others carry a given about foods to be avoided. Rajiv Sharma, Pharm.D., University of
plastic Ziploc bag to catch the blood. Utah, USA
Doctors and patients alike feel that it is Things not covered:
important to maintain a sense of calm We have purposely focused in this arti-
when a nosebleed begins. A state of cle on over the counter, readily available
panic may worsen a nosebleed, as well nosebleed management aids, rather than
as decrease your ability to effectively procedures and products that must be
manage the nosebleed. ordered and managed by a doctor. That
is another article, for another issue.

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