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nyckid10 10 years ago 5,058

nyckid10

I have been doing Lam's protocol for

about 5 months but stopped last
week due to severe collagen loss.
Every time I would take his vitamin c
supplements and derbomax collagen
supplement...I would notice I would
have more skin come off...and would
have trouble with my muscles and
skeletal structure. I had more and
more trouble walking. Now I am in a
severe state where my body keeps
catabolically wasting away for
energy. My body feels like a weak
rubber band. I have virtually no
muscle on my whole body now! It's
like the vitamin c and hydrolyzed
collagen supplement was building up
in my body over time and my body
started to reject it...and now it is used
to having collagen from the
supplements for energy and so it's
breaking down it's own stores for
energy. I had to stop because 5
minutes after taking it I would feel
severe fatigue and muscle
weakness....inability to stretch my
skin.

I don't know what to do....every time I

exert myself physically I feel weaker
and weaker. It's like I am walking on
strings...no muscular support. It's
been a week and I am only getting
worse and worse. I feel like I am
developing some serious collagen
disorder. It's a catch 22 situation b/c
if I keep taking even a low dose I feel
worse and worse collagen loss then
before...but if I don't take it at all it's a
slow but still painful deterioration of
my body. My hair is falling out in
chunks too!

When will my body reverse this? I

cannot believe this is happening to
me this is the worst feeling I ever
experienced in my life....and I have
been through a lot. Has anyone else
ever experienced this?

My brain keeps telling me I am dying

and is in constant emergency
mode...worse then it has been
before!

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Re: Severe Collagen Loss Please

Help lalobear 10 years ago 4,388

lalobear

This is a reply to # 2,008,733

nyckid,
What is your diet like? Could that be a
factor?

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Re: Severe Collagen Loss Please

Help nyckid10 10 years ago 4,266

nyckid10

This is a reply to # 2,008,833

I eat the paleo diet...along with some
brown rice, buckwheat, some low
Sugar fruits. My diet consists of plenty
of vitamin c...for sure.

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Re: Severe Collagen Loss Please

Help feo66 10 years ago 4,307

feo66

This is a reply to # 2,008,733

It's high cortisol that causes collegen

breakdown. Do you have eye
floaters?

You might want to try Seriphos. it's

pretty good at reducing cortisol. Holy
Basal also reduces cortisol.

Did you ever get a hair analysis done.

I'll bet your copper is sky high.

High copper results in increased

cortisol since it is so stimulating to the
brain.

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Help lalobear 10 years ago 4,131

lalobear

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I see from past posts that you have
had haair test done. What were some
of the results? Calcium, mag, sodium,
potassium?

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Help nyckid10 10 years ago 4,417

nyckid10

This is a reply to # 2,008,876

This all has to do with the overdoing

of vitamin c and collagen
supplements I was taking. I was
taking about 10 grams of vitamin c a
day and 10 mg of collagen. And now I
don't seem to be able to tolerate any
vitamin c or collagen. So I attribute it
to overdoing it.

I just don't know what to do for this to

stop! It's scary today I woke up with a
big bald spot on my head. My pillow is
full of hair...extremely thin hair.

I try the NB supplements and they

stimulate me too much and collagen
loss gets worse.

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Re: Severe Collagen Loss Please

Help lalobear 10 years ago 4,148

lalobear

This is a reply to # 2,008,897

Could it be thyroid issues? There's
some collagen loss connection there.
Also what about things like Lupus or
Lymes. That can wreak havoc. Just
brainstorming here.

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Help feo66 10 years ago 4,159

feo66

This is a reply to # 2,008,876

Super high Copper. Low sodium, low
potasium

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Re: Severe Collagen Loss Please

Help Blistering Fate 10 years ago 4,196

Blistering Fate

This is a reply to # 2,008,733

Nicky you need professional help. We

all here dislike doctors but there are
certain points in which it becomes
apparent a sick person, even if
intelligent and with resources, cannot
take care of himself at the same time
than deciding the way to treat himself.
I have learned to be humble and see
how I have been taking the wrong
decisions for too long thanks to my
cerebral inflammation and etc What
you are experiencing sounds awful
and you need to contact someone
experienced preferibly in person to
deal with that.

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Help Sherpa 10 years ago 4,438

Sherpa

This is a reply to # 2,008,733

I suffered from very noticable collagen

and muscle tissue loss, but yours
sounds much more severe than mine.
It sounds like a terrible place to be
and you need to get a handle on it.

I'll echo what Feo66 says... it sounds

probably like your cortisol is high and
you may need to lower it.

My favorite things to lower cortisol are

Seriphos and a blend called
"Theanine Serene with Relora" from
Source Naturals.

Other key factors for reversing my

catabolism were:

* STOPPING the anxious / obsessive

/ sympathetic dominant mental state
with yoga, meditation and conscious
reprogramming & re-wiring. When my
mind started to gallop like a runaway
horse again, the collagen loss
continued. You are probably too weak
ot do yoga to start with mediation.

* Drinking lots of easily absorbable

protein and collage in the form of
fresh BROTH.. I have done a lot of Dr.
Lam's chicken bone broth and I'm
totally sold on Jamiacan "fish tea"
(soup). Broth is CRUCIAL, in my
opinion.

* I take 2gm of L-glutamine per day as

an anti-catabolic. 1g in afternoon, 1g
in evening.

* Taking 6.6 grams of Type 1 and

Type 3 collagen per day for months.
Added this once my body was stable
and strong enough to handle
digesting it.

* Took Lysine + Proline (key building

blocks for collagen) for 3 months. This
is a healthy building block of collagen.

Hope this helps!

p.s. Do you have Dr. Lam's book?

Tons of great info in there.

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Re: Severe Collagen Loss Please

Help nyckid10 10 years ago 4,339

nyckid10

This is a reply to # 2,009,182

I have been taking glutamine and

collagen type 1 and 3 for like 4
months now. That's the point I was
trying to make...that my body is no
longer accepting the collagen or
vitamin c supplements I was taking
while on Lam's program. And now I
cannot tolerate any collagen or
vitamin c supplements at all.....I get
worse from them.

This is all due to the supplements! I

have been off of them for over a week
and just wanted some closure on
when this will stop.

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Help pp901 8 years ago 3,282

pp901

This is a reply to # 2,009,221

Hi Did you ever get to the bottom of
thin skin and hair loss from Lams
sups? I'd like to know. Thanks. Hope
Dr lam could help you

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Re: Severe Collagen Loss Please

Help meldoy 7 years ago 2,252

meldoy

This is a reply to # 2,009,221

Sounds like liver congestion! I can't

take even a few drops of vitamin c
without severe anxiety and diarrhea.
But you definitely should consult DR
LAM - he is the only one who can
probably answer your question. He is
on curezone- or you can ask free
questions on his Adrenal Fatigue
Website. He respond within a day!
Good luck!

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