V

It doesn't work, MÁRTIN there is a design feature there and there is no designer
because there is no God ,how do you get it, so they get this pot of boiling things,
and there are protein Nations molecules in there ,and they're very excited, and
foxes protein the scientist Fox, had these bowls of proteinaceous substances,
totally useless for life ,but very exciting because you've got a protein substance,
can you see there's no sulfur in there,

M
no

V
and in the atmosphere they also didn't have any sulfur, but some amino acids
contain sulfur ,so you have to somehow add that later because you also need
sulfur containing amino acids ,so it's a major problem ,you might be able to get
the protein-like substance, but it's useless ,

M
yes

without the mechanism, to extract it ,the mechanism, is in the enzyme ,and an

enzyme consists of amino acids, which have come together as a protein, it only
has L and Alpha nothing else ,so how did it get it, because it would never get it
naturalistically

something has to physically choose it

V
Yes, but there is nothing to choose,
M
Exactly, according to them

V
and you can't use an enzyme because they don't exist yet, and by the way if you
want to get really complicated ,the enzymes sequence and structures coded for
by the DNA ,and the DNA ,consists of these nitrogenous bases ,adenine guanine
thymine cytosine and RNA contains uracil as well, now you can see that this is a
totally different structure right,

now the atmosphere, that you had, to produce the amino acids, doesn't produce
these , so now you need another atmosphere,

so now you create another atmosphere, HOW are you going to create another
atmosphere if you have a closed system and this Earth is the closed
system ,you have to somehow postulate that it happened somewhere else ,right

so now ,it didn't happen here ,on Earth

that's right, so you have to develop another theory and say well maybe it
couldn't have happened on Earth ,so they have another theory which is called
pan spermia, it came from outer space , so meteors, had the circumstances that
were required ,and these molecules ,were flown in, and happened to be put into
the mixture that was bubbling down here ,and that's how we got these
things ,Martin are you in the realm of science or are you in the realm of faith
M

definitely in the realm of Faith

all right, because now you've got space involved and everything

,it's like you mentioned that other mysticism is almost Incorporated here at this

All right ,now remember everything has mirror images as well ,you cannot use
the Murray images, now I'm not even going to go into the sugars, because
sugars we only use the D sugar ,you cannot use the others, and you also need a
totally different circumstance, and different molecular environment in order to
get them, so how are you going to get all that ,it is so complex and without
enzymes nothing works ,and some of these have never been produced ,no
matter what environmental condition you simulated, so you have to postulate
that we just haven't discovered it yet,

M
so that's why they probably, is this the reason they start at CERN

V
well that's to find out the particles that they ex to find out what the particles
consist of and what energy there is and whether there is a quantum leap, that
you have to take ,and maybe even a wormhole, or it we're now in the realm of
Science Fiction, mingled with science, and we could blow ourselves all up in the
process ,but be that as of now let's stick to the chemicals, bottom line is, in
order for life to evolve you need all the chemicals ,so in the textbooks they just
glibly give you these experiments and say, here they are, but they don't say that
they're totally useless ,nor do they say how are they ordered, how do you get
from this chaos to this order ,because it's against the law of thermodynamics,
to go from the chaos to the order, you go from the order to the chaos ,so it's not
as cut and dried, as they would have you believe.
and then we also posed the question,
if life suddenly appeared on this Earth ,in another explosión,
and all of the sudden all the animals were there, in the Cambrian, the oldest
fossil
bearing macro fossil layers ,suddenly all the phyla were there,
that's when life exploded, now this is what science has to teach, this is
punctuated equilibrium at its
best ,this is an article that appeared in Scientific American ,and it says evidence
obtained, by sequencing the 18s ribosomal
RNA molecules ,that Aid in the synthesis of proteins ,from various species,
suggests that many of the phyla

,remember we said that's the large category of ANIMALS,

appeared almost simultaneously.

Martin, evolutionary speaking, isn't that ridiculous

M
that's 100 contrary to what evolution is teaching ,

V
you now God said he spoke and there they were, what is evolution saying

M
exactly the same

V MINUTO 21:04
exactly the same ,so you have a choice ,between two options ,one
eliminating God ,one incorporating God,
I admit I don't know where God comes from,

M
No, I admit it too

V
but he says I am, they say they are too ,because their God is nothing ,that
exploded and created everything, so where did the nothing come from that
created everything, it just is , so God says he is, there nothing is ,

so how fast did Evolution take place, other discoveries continued to highlight
the speed and magnitude of the Cambrian explosion ,bowring and Collings
recently provided our first rigorous radiometric dates for the event and fast,
turns out to be much faster than anyone ever thought, in fact they call it
evolving at supersonic speed ,so fast that you cannot find any intermediary
fossils because they're all there at the same time, isn't that the same as creation

M
it's exactly the same, why do you want to put millions of years to it

V
and then a little honest admission, all the textbooks Proclaim that our
phylum ,the Cordata, did not appear until the subsequent Ordovician period, and
that this later Evolution must imply Advanced status ,but the burgers Shale,
which is, Cambrian ,contains a chordate , so the group that we belong ,to was
there from the beginning.

Chen and colleagues Discovery and description of a beautifully preserved and

unambiguously identified call chordate, from the still earlier Chengjiang fauna,
now seals the fate of this misguided effort, in asserting specialness for our
ancestry ,chordates arose in the Cambrian explosion ,period ,it was all there
from the beginning

M
do they put this in textbooks as well

V
No,
so let's unpack this Martin, here you have what you will find in textbooks,
they're called evolutionary trees, and you have for example if you take the
reptiles, you have the amphibian ,and the amphibian gave rise to the
pleasure SARS ,and gave rise to all of these, and then the dinosaurs ,and all the
various ones, Triceratops over there, and the flying reptiles ,and of course
Tyrannosaurus ,and all of them can you see how they evolve, and then out of
them
we have the modern reptiles, you see that ,
now Martin, there's the amphibian, and let's take it there and go all the
way up over here, to the turtle, and the Tortoise,
they split somewhere over there ,is there any fossil that they've put on the line
here ,

M
no

V 24:33
no,
because this tortoise, and this turtle ,has been a tortoise and a turtle from
the beginning, so in actual fact, there is no tree ,is there any fossil here that
they put there ,no, so where does this come from,

M
faith

V
it
comes out of the mind of the scientists, so he finds these in the Rocks, they're
all in the same level ,and now he puts them together ,to decide
and tell you how they came into existence ,

M
so this is just like you said ,it's out of his mind ,this is a chart that somebody
drew ,because he thinks this is the only logic explanation

V
Correct, so this is called an evolutionary tree ,when in actual fact ,because
they're all there at the same time ,it's actually an evolutionary lawn , because
you can take this line all the way down to the beginning ,and that one all the way
down to the beginning, and that one all the way down to the beginning, in fact
they call this a living fossil ,because it's never changed, except for its size ,it
went from large to small

M
so okay, so it actually devolves

V
it went from large to small yes, it deteriorated, the Bible says the Earth is
wearing out like a garment it's deteriorating, and everything on it is deteriorating
with it, if you take just the ages of man, there used to be 900 and something
years old and today if you're lucky you get to 80 right,
so there's a deterioration, and you go from giant people, to small people ,the
entire fossil record does tha,t that's in harmony with scripture

M
exactly

V
and if you go to the serpent, or any one of these creatures they all go down, as
straight lines like grass in a lawn, and there is no common ancestor ,so this is
pure conjecture ,

M
you know I
remember the Coelacanth, it was extinct ,and I think in in South Africa ,on the
shore of eastern, that fish is about supposed to be 320 million or something
odd years , but it hasn't changed anything from them

V
No, because it was the fish from the beginning, the same applies to the
sturgeon, which has scales on its back and therefore bony scales ,and therefore
it's primitive, but in actual fact the Bony scale is more advanced than a normal
scale ,so it's totally topsy-turvy , all right let me explain how this comes into
being, now here's an evolutionary tree that I could postúlate, considering that
Evolution would have to go from small to large, if we want to categorize the dog
species,

let's start with a Chihuahua, that's a small dog, and then it has to get larger over
time, although the fossil record shows the reverse right , so here we have the
little Chihuahua ,and it looks like that ,and here on this side you have the flat
nosed dog species,

so they must have evolved over here, and the longer nosed ones, or the ones
let's say with floppy ears over here, must be on a different line, because you can
see that this one has floppy ears ,and that one has the longest floppy ears ,so
that one is also shortened and stocky, and then you have the longer nosed ones
they must have evolved more or less like that, that sounds perfectly logical ,but
it's absolute nonsense , because they all evolved out of the Wolf ,so the wolf at
all of this genetic capacity ,within ,it it's like the horse, is there evolutionary
tree ,so they start off, with the hierarch ethereum over there because it looked
like a rock hyrax, and they put them into sequence like this and then you get the
modern horse, and they show how the the legs changed,

and how they came into existence ,now this is a German slide, but that's fine ,so
Martin the interesting thing is ,that this is again pure conjecture ,because all of
these creatures occur at the same time ,just like the dogs, so when you take the
entire variety over here ,and I want to say how it evolved ,I would take the
smallest one ,and put it in line ,This is natural variation ,that is built in, natural
variation , I can put it into a secret but it comes out of the Mind,

M
mind ,because yeah, it it's not necessarily that

V
all right now human beings, do they have for example face recognition
M
yes

V
all right, so that means that faces must be different

M
yes

V
so
would you assume that God is a lover of variety ,

M
definitely

V
all right ,how does science account for the variety that is in the gene pool,
they have to postulate that all of these wonderful mechanisms that create
variety, came into existence by chance, but they're so intricate as we will see in
a moment ,that the smack of design, but you cannot postulate the designer ,so
we have a problem, we have a problem,

let's take the evolution of man , they are so sure that we all evolved from
Australopithecus, Australopithecus means ape, so Martin ,they have these
evolutionary trees ,and they give you the evolution of man, out of this
evolutionary tree and then out of one of them finally they get to the hominids,
that look like modern man ,and that's the evolution and here we have it, from the
Primitive, to the modern, and they postulate this as an evolutionary tree, again
it's not true ,it's a lawn

M
all in the same time

V
all of them were there at the same time, so all the monkeys that we have, and
the human beings that we have ,with all the variety we're there from the
beginning , so that variety, for all the Apes, must have been in the ape species,
the variety for Humanity the various shapes and sizes and forms must be in the
original gene pool, of one pair, with the capacity, to get the variety, so how do
we get ,the capacity,
how do we get the variety ,remember we spoke about genotype and phenotype
and the last one and we explained what that was, so the genotype is all the
genes, in an organism, and the phenotype are all the visible traits, that are
expressed by the genes,

so I explained that last time remember ,these are this is your phenotype, this is
your genotype , now I won't know what is written in this book ,until I read it, okay
,so natural selection can do nothing with my book, natural selection cannot
improve it, natural legs and cannot say I'm going to improve this book without
looking inside ,it takes an intelligent somebody to read the book and to
see ,what's in it right ,so natural selection doesn't work at this level ,so let's try
and unpack that a little bit,

so the book, is your genotype ,and the result thereof is the phenotype, so if
the book for example, contains the building plan ,for building an airplane this
one , and that is the phenotype, the actual airplane that is produced, there's a
few things that must happen between the book ,and the airplane right

M
quite a few things

V
quite a few things, number one, somebody must write the book

M
yes

V
but there's no God,

M
No, so it must be chance

V
so God never
wrote the book, chance wrote the book, that's a assumption, in The evolutionary
theory, okay , chance wrote the book ,now if I have the book ,I don't have an
airplane, I just have a book,

M
you just have the information
V
and I don't even know if it flies

M
exactly

V
how must I know when it flies, I must build it

M
you can only use the phenotype, to see if it flies

V
you're getting this, right,

M
yeah

V
do you find this discussion interesting

M
Very because now ,the genes is also just still ,stuff that has to be put together,

V
we already discussed how it came about, how you get the molecules to create
the book, and let alone you're not talking about anybody who wrote the
book ,you just have the book ,and the book is the blueprint ,for that,
now if you want to create the airplane ,well Martin is it enough to have the book

M
no, you have to have material

V
you have to have the material, that is described in the book, and then you must
have an engineer

M
somebody to put it together exactly

V
now if I Martin,
as you are now, gave you all the material to put something together ,or let's say I
gave you the metal , and I said you have to create the cogs and the wheels and
everything to create the engine and the Wings Etc, wouldn't you have to have a
factory

M
definitely

V
wouldn't you have to have equipment in order to build it, without that equipment
with the airplane appear

M
no

V
so we're going to get the equipment from, you only have a book,

M
you have to gather it

V
all right, the point is that I'm making, it's not enough Martin, to have the book ,
you have to have all the equipment, plus the engineers ,plus the people building
it, in between before you can actually ,have the airplane ,
so I haven't put anything in between here, but everything in between the book
and the airplane, where does it come from,

M
well according to them, probably then chance

V
absolutely right ,because it's not subject to Natural Selection ,until the
airplane is there and you can see whether it flies ,are you with me

M
yeah

V
so it's not enough to say I have created the building blocks over here ,in order to
write the book, I have written the book without the designer, without a writer ,I
have created the factory, and I have eventually a product ,and now I can see if it
flies ,but for natural selection to work ,selection implies more than one,
I cannot choose between options if there isn't more than one, so it doesn't only
have to happen once, it has to happen

M
millions of times, and you have to have, something that can produce this the
following so there must be of male female

V
so how much Faith do you need. all right so is it true then that selection requires
that more than one variant exists

M
yeah

V
so we need all of these different blueprints ,we need different books, different
genetic codes ,it's just handwriting telling you what to do, we have to have the
equipment to actually do it, and then we have to have a producto, to test, and
there's no God, there's no designer

M
yeah so that's out MINUTO 36;46

V
and everything that happens until the product actually appears ,happens by
chance, now let's just unpack that Martin, our book, this one is a very special
book this one because it gives you the Plan of Salvation

M
it's actually got ,who is the chance in there

V
the chance designer is in here as well , right there from the beginning, nobody
wants to know that, so we'll put the book down,

now what is written ,in the blueprint ,so that you can become you, right because
originally you started off as a little cell, half the information from your father half
the information from your mother, that was mixed together miraculously to
become one ,then it actually unpacked the information ,and used a factory that
was all in there , somebody put the factory in there because it's no good having
the information without the factory, because you have to produce the thing, so
in that cell ,was the information, plus there was a factory ,and the factory, just
did what the instructions told them ,without any designer whatsoever,

and your information was in the DNA ,and your factory was in the rest of the
cell ,so you had to get the information from the DNA, and transcribe it so that
you could take it out of the cell, to your factory,
and then that transcription was called mRNA, which was a copy, of what the
information said in the DNA, but it was actually a mirror copy , so the mirror
copy is the information of what actually has to happen and what is in the DNA is
the reverse of what has to happen ,so it's quite a tricky little thing, chance is a
very good designer, and then it had to go and it had to find a factory ,and
fortunately there was a factory ,the information as to how the factory came
about was actually in there in the first place, because without it there would be
no Factory ,this is really fascinating, and then once the information was slotted
in the photocopy was put into this thing called the ribosome, and then it was
changed or the information was read, and produced a protein ,choosing only L
Alpha amino acids ignoring anything else that was in the original soup ,very
clever little machine, and I think we should have a little look at what this actually
looks like, in an animated little sequence, that is very well done

X
with computer animation we can enter the cell to view this remarkable system
at work, after entering the heart of the cell, we see that tightly wound strands of
DNA, storehouses for the instructions necessary to build every protein in an
organism , in a process known as transcription ,a molecular machine first
unwinds a section of the DNA Helix to expose the genetic instructions needed
to assemble a specific protein molecule, another machine then copies these
instructions to form a molecule known as messenger RNA,

When transcription is complete, the Slender RNA strand carries the genetic
information through the nuclear pore complex, the gatekeeper for traffic in and
out of the cell nucleus, the messenger RNA strand is directed to a two-part
molecular Factory called a ribosome, after attaching itself securely ,the process
of translation begins,

inside the ribosome ,a molecular assembly line builds a specifically sequenced

chain of amino acids, these amino acids are transported from other parts of the
cell ,and then linked into chains often hundreds of units long ,their sequential
Arrangement determines the type of protein manufactured,

When the chains is finished it is moved from the ribosome to a barrel-shaped

machine that helps fold it into the precise shape critical to its function ,
after the chain is folded into a protein, it is then released and shepherded by
another molecular machine to the exact location where it is needed,

V
Martin I have just produced one little sub component of what you're going to
make right , and and all of this is not subject to Natural Selection ,only the final
product ,the airplane , is going to be subject, it all came about by chance, how
much faith do you need

M
Well, you need a tremendous amount of faith ,if you want to say this is by
chance

V
this is by chance absolutely, all right, so Martin you have thousands of genes,
and you create thousands of different kinds of cells ,you don't just consist of
one kind of cell ,that's another major problem in itself ,how do you know which
genes to actívate, and which not to activate ,and sometimes there are alleles in
other words ,copies of certain informations, each one with a different variant of
the same thing, so that you can get different varieties , and if you mingle two
sexes together, now you get that Variety in there and you produce all of this
variety, but it comes about by chance,

so you must have mechanisms not only to read that DNA ,you must have
controlling genes, which say which ones must be read, and then you must have,
activators, that bind to certain it's like switching on a light switch , but you have
to have someone to switch it on , and you must have a switch , and if you have
two lights then you must have two switches, to switch on one and the other one
off and the other one on and the other one off, you know what I mean

M
Exactly

V
where all those things come from,

M
it's like that video now, all this DNA and everything yeah that's fine, but then you
have a machine, where did the machine come from

V
where did that come from, it has to come about by chance, and then you have
transpositions, so a transposon is a piece of DNA, that can be cut out precisely
sliced out of a piece of DNA, and sliced in somewhere else, but it has to be a
very precise process, because MÁRTIN if you just Skip One, of those messages,
then your whole message is destroyed, because you're one out of sequence ,
everything is corrupted, it's like taking a letter out of a word everything moves
up and nothing makes sense anymore.

MINUTO 46:38

so all of these mechanisms are very very precise, they may not have a built-in
error or else you get gibberish at the end, how did it come about chance,
so you can go from a small rat to a giant rat, with one Activity ,one translocating
of a gene to another position, where let's say the gene for growth hormone , is
read more often in that position than in this position, then you will have a larger
Mouse as a result.

so you can adapt to environmental changes ,and become larger

or smaller, considering the environment, but the mechanism ,is complex ,and
very precise,
but there's no designer, and there's no evolution,
and then let's not even talk about epigenetics, I don't want to go into too much a
detail, but epigenetics is a way, of even transferring,
character trays, behavior ,from one generation to another,
you know in the past we thought, the only thing that is transferred from one
generation to another ,is the physical
hardcore information, as to what you are, but no through epigenetics which
we're not going to run into detail they can look at the other lectures for
that ,epigenetics makes it possible for behaviors ,if you're inclined to anger, if
you're inclined to whatever ,

M
so it's also ,that's also on the gene type, there's genes that actually activated

V
yes

M
to give that Trend

V
and it's interesting, that if you stop at particular behavior, that is let's say a
detrimental Behavior, it can take two three four generations to get rid of it ,so
you can inherit bad character traits from your parents ,it doesn't mean you have
to ,listen to them, you have to change them ,if you are inclined to anger and
violence, and you inherit this through epigenetics ,now the Bible says ,to the
third and fourth generation you will have to struggle with some of these things,
and it's so in harmony with science, but this complicated mechanism ,where
certain genes are active and some are actually suppressed ,so for example
Martin, if you have a propensity in the family, to get breast cancer, and you know
that the stimulus for breast cancer is eating particular foods, like fried foods etc
etc, if you cut it out ,and you no longer do that even though you have the
propensity,

you can actually put it to rest , with this kind of activity, and if you do the wrong
thing then it can be activated again ,so it's a complicated mechanism which
we're not going to discuss for the purposes ,but the interesting fact is, that the
variety that we have in the world i,s a built-in variety ,very coordinated, very
precise, and it's all in the genes ,and not subject to natural selection,

now let's have a look at another point to ponder ,and that is irreducible
complexity, that is when I explained to you that certain things need to have all
the components like a watch , otherwise it's not going to work, you take out one
it doesn't work ,so I cannot get this watch, to produce Itself incrementally by
itself ,I would one day have to just pick up a watch ,biologically speaking ,

oh here's a watch, how did it come into existence, it's irreducibly complex ,so
let's have a look at something that is irreducibly complex ,we're not going to go
into the details of the science because this is not supposed to be a hardcore ,
science lectura, we're talking about the philosophy the principle behind it, but
just for interest sake

here is an article, in a peer-reviewed

journal, structure and function of the bi-directional bacterial flagellar motor.

now an organism a unicellular organism can have a little tail-like structure which
is the flagellum ,which rotates and makes the organism move, and Martin you
produce millions of them ,it's called the sperm cell ,and it has a little flagella
motor ,and it makes it possible for it to swim and create a fusion with a
female ,germ cell ,and produce the next Offspring ,now that little motor, just that
little motor, it cannot come about incrementally, everything has to be there ,
otherwise it doesn't work

MINUTO 50:31

so let's just read this not for the sake of unpacking it, just to give you an idea,
here's the abstract, the bacterial flagellum, is a locomotive organelle that
propels the bacterial cell body in liquid environments, the flagellum is a
supramolecular complex composed of about 30 different proteins, and consists
of at least three parts a rotary motor a universal joint and a helical filament,
the flagellum motor of Escherichia coli and salmonella enterica, is powered by
an inward directed electrochemical potential difference of protons, across the
cytoplasmic membrane, it needs fuel, just like any motor.

the flagella motor consists of a rotor made of all of these different

proteins ,and a dozen status consisting of this that this this this this that ,also
act as a molecular switch, enabling the motor to spin in both counterclockwise
and clockwise directions, so it's got a forward gear and a backward gear.

each stator is anchored to the peptoglycan layer through C terminal periplasmic

domain ,of such and such acts as a proton channel to couple the proton flow
through the Channel with torque generation,

M
you're gonna torque generator

V
okay it is a highly sophisticated motor ,that consists of all these components,
you take out one, it doesn't work ,what's it look like, it looks like this,

so here it is ,and there are the components that's what it looks like ,these are all
the different protein rings that it has ,and it can move forward and it can move
backward and it has torque ,and it can go over obstacles ,it can go slow ,it can
go fast ,it is a magnificent motor, but it has to be complete ,or it doesn't work

mártin what how to come into existence

M
chance

V
all right ,you want to unpack it a Little bit more, schematic diagram of the
bacterial proton driven, and sodium, driven flagella motor ,and these are so
efficient, they're better than any diesel motor or anything that has ever been
designed by humanity ,and there they go this is what they consist of ,you take
out one little component, it's broken it ,doesn't work,

I don't come into existence, it's irreducibly complex, let's take a chloroplast, this
is the PowerHouse of our planet in terms of life ,this is what creates energy out
of the atmosphere , this is what uses sunlight, in order to create molecules so
that you can stay alive, right, it produces energy in the form of carbohydrates,
and it consists of this structure ,so it's a photo system two electron transport
chain photo system that captures light ,and together with water and oxygen ,in
This Magnificent reaction that takes place over here ,produces starch amino
acids fatty acids but it exports sucrose,

so there it is ,and it is a magnificent structure, you take out any part of it, it
doesn't work ,and life is dependent upon it, Mártin it just suddenly appeared one
day,

M
it gets better and better ,I mean , you start to really think ,that these people that
Proclaim to be so clever ,in putting this all to chance ,

V
but they don't say that, they pack it in scientific jargon ,so that it looks so
feasible ,leaving out the problems, that are associated with,

M
that's the thing ,if you just go back to that picture that you showed ,about the
drawing, and that just comes out of a guy's mind ,they don't tell you that

V
No,

M
They don't tell you this

V
they tell you what it looks like ,they're over awed at the complexity and the
beauty of it ,I mean you give it oxygen ,you give it water ,and you give it carbon,
and here comes product ,that you need for life ,it's just amazing, but it's a very
intricate machine

M
yeah

V
now when you go to the fossil record ,and you look at insects for example,
they've always been insects, everything about it and how it came into
existence ,comes out of the mind of the scientists ,it's like taking the Chihuahua
to the Great Dane and packing it in a sequence and say that's how it happened,
but they were all there, at the same time,

so an insect ,in the fossil record looks like this ,and it will look like this to
this day except that it might be smaller ,now here's a very interesting
development ,here you have a dragonfly, you get dragonflies with one
wings ,and you get dragonflies with two Wings right ,now you get helicopters
with one rotor and helicopters with two rotors ,did you know that the helicopter
was designed with the dragonfly in mind,

M
I heard that

V
okay so the engineers looked at the dragonfly ,but now you have a problem,
because the dragonfly has a fixed wing, but Beatles for example have a wing
that falls away ,and is hidden under carapace to protect it ,like a hard cover, it's
like taking it to a garage ,but you have to fold it up ,how do you get from a fixed
Wing, which looks like more primitive, so say the dragonfly is more primitive,
than the beetle ,because the beetle can fold its wings and put it into a carapace,
there's no intermediary ,you just have the two,

and now you have to postulate out the one came out of the other ,and you
assume that this one must have been first because this one over here ,where
you actually fold it away, is more complex, you actually think it's more
complex ,but they use this one to design the helicopters,

M
So imagine what will happen if we use Beetle wings to produce something,
according to them

V
Okay, so
there's no evidence that they ever evolved ,or if you take the eye,
it consists this is now compound eye of an insect , it has a very complex
structure of mirrors ,and those mirrors are omitidia, they are all packed in and
they make a composite picture and out of that composite picture ,the brain has
to make one picture, it is so complicated and it's irreducibly complex, because
you take away a component, it doesn't work, besides that ,you need an
interpretative Computer, to take the actual electronic image and change it into a
virtual image, where the computer come from,

M
CHANCE

V
 who designed all of this stuff, now here is an an insect in Amber this is a
fossil ,so the first time an eye appears in the fossil record ,it is fully formed like a
modern one, because you cannot reduce it to something les

M
yes, because then it wouldn't work

V
it doesn't work, irreducible complexity ,and they've always been there from the
same time, ants in Amber, no wonder they can make a joke, I can't believe it
Fred 60 million years since I seen you lost and you haven't changed a bit,
because there is no fossil, to show how this one even evolved because it's the
same as the one that lives today ,except for size, so we spoke about variation,
and we said that modification in the genes in you genotype, to bring about
changes in the phenotype, occur by chance through mutation ,this all happens
by chance natural selection has nothing to do with it ,only once it's produced,
can selection say this one doesn't work that one let's choose that one right, and
genetic recombination is produced by fertilization ,meiosis ,as independent
assortment and crossing over, that's to produce variety ,now this is the process,
the one is the male the other one is the female, in order to get the variety, where
they come from ,

M
chance

V
because the variety is produced by the combining of the male and the
female ,but the all that it entails to be a male, and all that it entails to be a
female,
must be there before you can get the variety ,

Chicken and the Egg, all right so now here are your chromosomes ,and one of
them is from your father and one of them is from your mother, right ,now they're
going to divide, and split into components, and then they're going to exchange
information, and that looks then like that, so the red is from your father, and the
blue let's say is from your mother ,and they're going to exchange information, so
then in the end of the process ,you have a little bit of blue you have a little bit of
red you have a little bit of blue and you have a little bit of red, and this process is
called crossing over ,it is incredibly complex ,one Little mistake , and you're a
cabbage,

Martin this does nothing other, tan increase the variety in The Offspring, but
natural selection can only determine whether that variety is useful once it's
there ,so this whole process
M
is chance

V
came about by chance , it is so complicated, because it has to be at the precise
Locus ,so you have to have an enzyme that cuts ,your father's DNA at the right
place, and cuts your mother's DNA at the right place, then splices them together
,so that the same information is there just in a different variety of form

M
Yeah, and exactly the same place because if it's in the wrong, one little bit a
billionth of a billion per second off ,

V MINUTO 1:02:04
you've had it, nothing happens, so Martin,

this complex mechanism ,that produces more variety in The Offspring,

is a complicated System, that is so mind-boggling that if you go into all
the detail as to how it happens, and what enzymes are involved ,and how the
replicating enzymes have to work ,and how you have editing enzymes running
afterwards to make sure there's no mistake because I don't want you to be a
cabbage ,whoever designed it doesn't want you to be a cabbage, but there's no
designer, there's no designer, so this is how it works can you see

M
yeah

V
so you cross them over and then eventually ,you have a little bit of one and a
little bit of the other ,but you have this thousands of times ,it's an amazing
process,
okay so let us just recap then, do you need a lot of faith ,to assume that the
mechanisms, that produce the variation ,the male and the female aspect, the
whole system to create the variation by crossing over the genes, creating all of
those possibilities ,in an absolutely controlled precise manner ,came about by
chance,

M
absolutely crazy faith

V
all right, but you have to have crazy Faith to believe in God as well, that's it so
you have a scale , you have a scale you can put it on the scale, and you can
determine for yourself what you want to believe, what if you add prophecy to the
mix

No, then you're gonna have

Oh, no. Then you're going to have

V
what if that Designer says to you, excuse me,
you don't want to believe it's me, you want to believe it's somebody called
charts ,let me tell you ,what's going to happen, in one thousand years ,
at exactly this time, at exactly this place,

exactly out of this lineage, this person is going to be born ,and he's going to do
this this this this this this this this and the other, and as far as the kingdoms of
the world are concerned let me explain to you ,that when this Kingdom that now
rules is gone that one's going to take over,

and then in 600 years that one will take over and in 300 years that one will take
over and then that one and then when that happens they're going to divide into
so many and that one will be a ruler and this one will do this and this and this
and this and this, and then it happens,

will they have proved that he has knowledge that is inexplicable

M
beyond the doubt

V
can you put that on the scale as well

M
on the which scale now

V
on the scale of the is a God

M
yes
V
Can you put it on the other side?

M
No,

V
because it doesn't exist

M
IS a nightmare

V
okay ,all right, let's just wrap this up ,and talk about a few other things, the Bible
says there was a universal flood and the universal destruction , now geologists
divide the sequences of the Rocks ,into what they call a geological column , and
the oldest Strata with the macro fossils down there is the Cambrian ,and that's
where macro Evolution or the origin of larger animals ,actually started to
occur ,and logically,

they should start developing as you go up over here ,so you shouldn't find, you
should find very primitive ones down here, and then the more advanced ones as
you go up right ,but as we saw, they all occur over there at the same time,
Cambrian explosión, that's the first problem, the next problem that you have ,is
as you go up over here ,you come to the quaternary up there ,

and that's where they say where we have ,the mammals and the intelligent
beings that we have over here ,but before you get there you have a layer here
which is called ,the Cretaceous ,now Cretaceous means chalk,

that's what it looks like, it's a chalk layer ,okay, now can you see ,that you're
going up over ,here this is in German over here ,and there's the Cretaceous layer,
just before you get, man and everything that's living today, there's a chalk
layer ,and Martin that Chuck layer is universal,

M
right over the whole earth

V
over the whole Earth, and what does it consist of, it consists of the calcium
carbonate bodies, of organisms , particularly marine organisms,
it's a chalk layer, it's if you're right on the board, with chalk ,you're writing with
the fossil ,and it's these over here ,are foraminífera, which are ,small little
unicellular shells of unicelular creatures,

but then you'll also find this in the chalk layer, all these Marine shells ,add little
micro organisms, and creatures like this, this is all part of the chalk

M
and this is all the top layer over the Earth

V
it's covering everything at the same time, here for example ,is a brown coal
layer, it's a mass of the largest Brown Coal Field in the world ,now this is called
that's not buried in the deeper layers, it's on top, so it doesn't form coal, it's just
partly forms coal ,and mixed with it this is in Europe,

in right up against the Alps ,and in that, you have this layer over here ,which is a
chocolate , now that's full of marine deposits, so that's what the chalk would
look like, it's full of marine organisms

M
marine and that means sea

everything was underwater , okay now here is a geologist and by the

way this man was an evolutionary geologist, and he's explaining how these
Brown coal Fields came into existence ,of course they postulate that it was a a
forest That Grew there ,but somehow right in the middle of Europe, everything
was underwater,

because you have the chalk layer ,and he's holding a piece of the chalk over
there and he's showing it to us ,you can compress it and write with it on the
Blackboard, and if you dig in that forest, this is what you dig out, so everything
was underwater, no matter where you go in the world,

so what right at the top here is a layer that says the whole world was
underwater but there was no flood , and what is also interesting, if you go to the
rest of the fossil record now that we have,
we find graveyards, of animals, mammal graveyards for example, we have them
all mixed together like this ,here you have all kinds of creatures like horses and
rodents and everything mixed into one ,

M
so they definitely didn't go and decide to die at the same time there

V
what jumbled them
together and glued them together like this ,they were catastrophically laid down,
this is flood history ,but there was no flood Martin ,there was a chalk layer
come from ,and where do fossil graveyards come from ,and here, you have well
distribution and abundance in the north Cerro Blanco, and you have hundreds of
whales buried, instantly ,you see here's a while

M
yeah

V
and there's another one, and you know what's interesting, they're largely stream
orientated, they all died in the same direction, this is catastrophism ,they were
buried at the same time ,is this in harmony with the universal destructive flood

M
exactly

V
but there was none,

M
it was chance

V
and by the way, today, whales don't fossilize,

M
no

V
they Beach ,they break up, and soon they are in a million pieces, animals eat,
they're just gone , so you can find fragments but here ,whole animals ,were
instantly buried, and you can find that for dinosaurs, you can find them washed
into the direction of stream flown ,
you can find that for petrified forests ,washed into the direction of Stream Flow,
you can find that for fishes ,you can find that for anything in the entire fossil
record ,it speaks of catastrophe,

M
like you said ,even a fish, so it had to be quick, a turbidite I think you mentioned
it , I had to cook catch that fish, right in mid-swim

V
and it had to be cut off from oxygen immediately or else it would just
disintegrate ,so let's ask, question number 10.

If the probability of any of these mechanisms coming into existence by chance,

giving their intricacy, is so infinitely small as to be non-existent, then does not
the theory of evolution qualifies the faith rather than a science

I think we've actually shown that it does,

V
Is a faith

M
it's definitely a faith

V
And the Bible says, choose thee this day, whom You Shall Serve ,if you want to
serve the gods that your forefathers served on the other side of the river, you're
welcome to it, if you want to serve Gaia, the god of naturalism ,and
nature ,you're welcome to it, but if you want to serve the god of the Bible then
choose, is there enough evidence ,that God ,can mean exactly what he says,

M
yes, especially through prophecy as well acknowledging it

so if we read, thus the heavens and the Earth were finished, and all the hosts of
them, is it in harmony with what we saw the fossil record reveal and the
intricacy of everything

M
Definitely, they the scientists have a term for this, this is irreducible complexity
V
okay ,so when he says in the beginning God created, and then he piles evidence
upon evidence in this book, that he is involved, in in the life of this world ,and
that is involved even with the animal kingdom, and that it says it is
groaning ,under the circumstances which were produced by sin, and that the
world is looking forward to a world-created new ,wherein there is no more
death ,none of these things, are we looking at the DNA in the world today trying
to find solutions to eternal life

M
Yes

V
The solution Lies over here

M
I think they've been trying that since ,death came in

V
Yes, they've been trying to, find out why does the DNA deteriorate ,you know
what's fascinating, our DNA is deteriorating over time right ,but the germ cells
we produce, even at my age can produce a viable offspring ,

what keeps that so active,

what is it that God has built into these things, Martin I've come to the conclusion
in my life, that given all the facts, archaeological facts, historic facts ,prophetic
interpretations, plus the story of Origins and the flood in the Bible ,make this the
most believable book, in the universe ,and the most Ward against book in the
universe

M
you see and actually you can put on top of that scientific fact, the scientific
things that you've just shown, they have an explanation for the chance for it,
actually that proves that God is the creator

V
God is the creator, in my opinion ,thus the heavens and the Earth were finished,
and all the host of them, and this world is soon, coming to an end, when this
experiment with this thing called sin, is over,

and then there will be a new Earth, and a new Heaven ,in which dwelleth
righteousness ,and there will be no more death, no more pain ,no more dying,
and we will be face to face ,with that creator, that Designer, that missing
component ,that explains how everything came into existence ,and how it is
transformed into that which we see , lets pray

Heavenly Father, the world is bent on removing you, from every aspect of
society ,and soon, Humanity will realize that this is the path of destruction, and
they will fall into another trap,

and follow a line of reasoning ,which is contrary to the word of God, but you've
given us so much evidence that your word is trustworthy help us to rely, not on
the dictates of man, but on the thus says the Lord, is my prayer, in Jesus name,
amen

M
amen