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GRACIELA DANIELE
IN CONVERSATION WITH
LYNN AHRENS +
STEPHEN FLAHERTY
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Cee neSTEPHEN FLAHERTY | just think its marvelous that we're here inthis soam today at the
Dramatists Guild doing, 11s net really an interview, i= 2 conversation, [feel ike we know you xo
‘well, but thee area couple of sings that I dort know about you which Lhope wel find out
Should we gue 3 bret history of how we came to get together in a room forthe frst time?
LYNN AHRENS | Yes. wae thinking about our history: We have done so many shows together
‘that really had to think ick, wanted tb re-experionce that fst momerti~it all began with our
mutual agest, Haward Roventone.
(GRACIELA DANIELE | Thank you, Howard
LeMaN | We hac written a tle show callad Once on This cian
STEPHEN | Which miacclled Ti Moune atthe time,
Ley | We didn't know what itwas, we dlce’s know where it should go, we did't know much
‘baut this show that we had writen except that we thought Graciela Danisle would be the perfect
dicector because you Told stories with dance and movement and we were so intagued by your
Work. Jin 50 me asked! Howard if he would set up a meeting and he di.
STEPHEN [tas i
ofa blind date actually,
GRACIELA | retieriie that day Hae it was yesterday:
LYNN | forget wht you were ween on
STEPHEN | know what it was. ft was Eric Overmper’s In aig’ Valse at Second Stage and it was
your kench hour
LYNN | And yeu came te my loft wearing this giant white coat made ef some incanekind of fur
never seen bafore.
GRACIELA [It nas lui, Tibetan lamb A gift reen my husband
LYNN [You had only one hour We sat you on a lite chair and we went to the piano and stared
singing our heert= aut and ploying, We were going quickly bacause we knew you Pad to get ack.
bn we said, "50, thas allwe're going tO.” and you said, “Oh. play me a inte more” So we played
A ite more and you sd, "OR, play me 3 Ite reore” and we started slaying the whole show and
you dissolved in tears, we dissolved tears
STEPHEN | Itwres such an emotional vesction forall concemed,
LYN | box of tissues.
GRACIELA | Da you remember what Lsaid after you gave me the box of tissues? Fsaid, don't
think] am-the right eirestor fae you. I'm not clinical enough’
[STEPHEN | Right, you couldi't be that remowed emotionally.
GRACIELA | No, I coulda
LEANN [twas just so fabulous, Se thats how vee met and that’s haw we care togetfe I
remembered the fst day of our wosikchop and how nervous | was. I's ternfying when youre
handing over piece that you've worked on for so long ta somebody and you don't know'what
‘are they going to do with it. But youust sat evesyane doen an the flogein a rcle and you sid,
wiht fue tole tt a chlo?
STEPHEN | Whici was not in the script
LEVIN | And we said. well sure, give ita try and suddenly rernember my shoulders went down
‘about frve inches and L thought. “Oh, see what it i, Now I see what it s* You brought that tothe
hom. The nation of telling it to-a child was a huge dramaturgical gift.
GRACIELA [Tent that interesting, bacause don't coneicer mycelia cramacurg at all but when
Tent through it felt very strongly that this stery-—baing passed on as. torch to the new
_generation—could be more powert
Lenn | than breaking the fourth walland telling the audience
GRACIELA | Young and old audiences relate to
a heuutsul story told to. cite.
STEPHEN | Wel that one suggestion mas
just brillant bacause the piees is ultimately
‘about storytelling and about making sense
Cofswhat happens in our fives. I's try an
ensemble pees sbout 8 group ef penple ie
2 group energy and just that one suggestion
Lndeeined that ane really informed everything
that came after that. luckily that ws the fst
sentence in the entre script! Everything that
iri after that fst zentarice waz informed by
your directorial choice, which was so spot-on.
Tesurprised us because we thought we knew all
the insard outs of our litle show Fd so fi
this would be the fist time that 1 would feel
‘that my music, combined with moversent, your
movement, could actualy luminate the text
GRACIELA | tithe other way arouse
STEPHEN | Weil, not for me.
GRACIELA | You know Lam such on admires
‘of writer: and composers. Leant write good
Fettorin any af the faur languages I speak and
[believe ital tarts there starts in the idea,
nthe storytalling, in the music, which are the
structure and the soul of the piece, Without
‘you. we dont exist, Without us you could si
‘erst, Remember that in Shakespeare's time
‘hare were ne directors.
LYNN | Im putting iton my refrigerator.
STEPHEN [1 starts with the author it starts
‘withthe text
GRACIELA | starts with the author It starts
wrth the text t'starts with the music. And
directors, we are interpreters, We are just
interpreters
LYNN | You know that’s avery rae sentiment
coming from a director, Thave 10 sy
GRACIELA | Really?
LYNN Mayle not as rare as think itis, but
‘are in my experience.
(GRACIELA | un' that interesting?
STEPHEN |1 tank a lot of that comer Rom the
fact of who you are, that you're an incredibly
(generous poruan besides being a generous
and inspired arts. [think alo it comes from
your sence of confidence. You know. Thonesty
think slot af eiectore aren't confident and fet
Unies they get ths billing or get this thing. it
somehow diminishes them Tye never fot that
with you.
GRACIELA | don't care about those things:
really don't Em just.a good housewife who
happens to lowe the thestre_ laughter know
it sounds rather orcinary butts true! Esch |
play creates a family with al the probiess
sponse | ec scuRMRLMe oeRMsT 19‘we must colve together, hopefully, in loving