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Jester X-38/CRV: Hi-Res Images and 3D Movies plus Payload

Management Document
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« on: 08/11/2009 08:47 AM »
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No clue if this is "out there" but I'm cleaning up an old system and came across this...
Edit: added the Payload management document here too, courtesy RG-4
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Jester Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #1 on: 08/11/2009 08:48 AM »
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The-Hammer Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #2 on: 08/11/2009 09:21 AM »
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These rock.
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« Reply #3 on: 08/11/2009 12:11 PM »
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nacnud Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #4 on: 08/11/2009 12:28 PM »
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Fantastic, such a shame that it was cancelled.
Interestingly I wonder why in the last para-foil stage the crew cabin wasn't just ejected for land
Would have saved a lot of space and weight of the cutes.
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FransonUK Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #5 on: 08/11/2009 01:22 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: 08/11/2009 04:44 PM »
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That is awesome! Why was it scrapped?
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woods170 Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #7 on: 08/11/2009 06:44 PM »
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That is awesome! Why was it scrapped?
Funding cuts. ISS became too expensive. As a result the X-38, the CAM and the crew habitat mo
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bad_astra Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #8 on: 08/11/2009 06:57 PM »
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X-38 will always be sad to me. It was close. Of all the things cut from ISS, this was one that sho
indispensible.
We wouldn't be having talk of a gap right now, if X-38 had led to a lifeboat. But things being wh
much easier for politicians and the media to blame all ISS delays on Russia, in compelete ignora
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Deja-vu all over again.
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« Reply #9 on: 08/11/2009 07:29 PM »
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due to better "leads"
one part of me is obviously glad I didn't, but another part...first hermes, now this, the navy flyb
nothing to "fly" except rockets.....
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gladiator1332 Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #10 on: 08/11/2009 09:03 PM »
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Thanks! Truly one of the biggest let downs when it comes to the ISS Program. If I am not mista
have been 1 year into X-38 service to the ISS, as I believe it was supposed to be ready by 2008
To think if we could go back and do it all over...no worries of a gap and I am sure the X-38 could
into a CEV.
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robertross Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #11 on: 08/11/2009 10:59 PM »
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Martin FL Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #12 on: 08/12/2009 03:27 PM »
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Thanks Jester! Really cool little vehicle!
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mike robel Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #13 on: 08/12/2009 03:37 PM »
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This is ever so cool. Development of the X-38 made me think we could develop a new vehicle w
and whistles. Then I was kicked in the teeth. I would like to have thought that this could have
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Ronsmytheiii Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #14 on: 08/12/2009 04:03 PM »
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body was such a good idea. The TPS would be exposed to the MMOD environment for probably
it really was only an LEO lifeboat/possible taxi, so there was not room to grow into an interstella
had gone with a capsule design instead of the X-38, we would already have the ISS taxi that is n
launch to ISS now in 2015 at the earliest (although to get to a lunar design there would have ha
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simonbp Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #15 on: 08/12/2009 04:49 PM »
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X-38/CRV would not have eliminated the gap. If you look at the cutaway showing the crew, they
towards the nose. This is perfect for reentry, but worst-case for nose-first launch. So, without se
you could only launch a crew on a CRV upside-down (better, but still not good for aborts) or side
to have a sizable SM for extra life-support and RCS. All-in-all, you'd need an entirely separate ve
X-38/CRV and OSP were two separate programs.
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so there was not room to grow into an interstellar craft.
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Sadly no. Plans to sent X38 to Barnard's Star never got very far in the spiral.
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« Reply #17 on: 08/13/2009 09:49 AM »
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Amen to that.
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X-38 V-201 was foreseen to be launched by Columbia on the next mission after STS-107.
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« Reply #18 on: 08/15/2009 04:15 PM »
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There's something magical about a space ship being carried into orbit by another space ship.
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Martin FL Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

« Reply #19 on: 08/23/2009 04:15 PM »
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There's something magical about a space ship being carried into orbit by another space ship.
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Agreed! Was it the only time such a payload that was also a ship was planned?
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« Reply #20 on: 08/24/2009 09:29 AM »
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I have Payload management doc dated oct. 98 doc on the X-38.
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« Reply #22 on: 08/25/2009 02:34 AM »
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I have Payload management doc dated oct. 98 doc on the X-38.
Would have been nice to see this fly!!!
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« Reply #24 on: 04/22/2010 03:40 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: 04/22/2010 03:42 PM »
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Does this have any heritage with the X-37B?
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Andy USA Re: X-38: 3D Movies and images

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« Reply #27 on: 07/19/2010 09:56 PM »
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I was involved with this vehicle.

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« Reply #28 on: 07/20/2010 07:53 AM »
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I was involved with this vehicle.
Welcome Gary, and so was I (for a very brief period...) I bumped into some images recently, i'll
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« Reply #29 on: 07/20/2010 07:55 AM »
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« Reply #31 on: 07/20/2010 03:59 PM »
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Great selection, thanks a lot Jester!!

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This is cool! I know it's not the X-37, but these smaller vehicles are interesting, and there's som
payload bay deployment.
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« Reply #33 on: 01/12/2011 11:52 AM »
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« Reply #34 on: 01/17/2011 02:39 AM »
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« Reply #35 on: 01/27/2011 02:51 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: 01/28/2011 09:39 AM »
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« Reply #37 on: 04/19/2011 04:10 PM »
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This does have a similar design to Dreamchaser, doesn't it!
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« Reply #38 on: 05/08/2011 06:49 PM »
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Doesn't dreamchaser crews egress from the aft, not the top?
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Man, some sweet pics. Was it really meant to be a shirt-sleeve return like shown in the pictures?
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« Reply #40 on: 05/15/2011 04:45 AM »
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« Reply #41 on: 05/22/2011 03:44 AM »
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In the videos, what was that thing hanging off the X-38's butt?
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The propulsion fot deorbit?
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« Reply #43 on: 12/18/2011 01:46 AM »
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Great slides! Now for the movies
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Lovely little vehicle. Not a million miles off Dreamchaser.
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I believe one was made and might still be somewhere at JSC

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V-201 just before the end....
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« Reply #48 on: 12/26/2011 07:12 PM »
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« Reply #50 on: 12/28/2011 05:37 AM »
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Fits very snugly into the PLB.

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Spaceship inside a Spaceship. That's cool.

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« Reply #51 on: 12/28/2011 08:44 PM »
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Correct, the Deorbit Propulsion System, DPS (made by AeroJet) that was jettisoned prior to re-entry.
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Correct, the Deorbit Propulsion System, DPS (made by AeroJet) that was jettisoned prior to re-entry.
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This is just an anecdote from my little corner of the world, but the engines for the DPS are seeing a lot of future u
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That's nice to hear, at least it's still being used in some form instead of collecting dust someplac
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« Reply #53 on: 02/09/2012 05:48 AM »
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When i started working at ESA in 2000 I almost switched from manned spaceflight to the CRV/X-38 project, but
"leads"
one part of me is obviously glad I didn't, but another part...first hermes, now this, the navy flyboy in me felt sad,
rockets.....
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There was some heartburn associated with those images being published, but things eventually
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Correct.

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This is awesome. A real baby orbiter if ever there was one!

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I'm interested to know if a Dream Chaser could have fitted inside an orbiter payload bay?
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The last manifest that included the X-38 flight demo was the 28 August 2001 FAWG. By then it was on STS-116,
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So, dear JSC, any space left ? (I know you got cheated out of a Shuttle, how about showing wha
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My pix are no where NEAR the quality of Jester's but I was lucky enough to get an informal tour
here are a few X38 pics I got. Apologies that some of them contain me or a friend
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That is in building 9, the Space Vehicle Mockup Facility. It's a 6-degree-of-freedom test rig for the X-38 docking m
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Nice photos, thanks for sharing! A bit OT but related to X-38... I came across some pics of a
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http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=27178.0
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Today I visited the Strategic Air and Space Museum in Ashland, NE. I found X-38 V-132.
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Ahhh what could have been....13 years ago....
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« Reply #121 on: 08/26/2016 11:30 AM »
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V201 has been donated to the city of Santa Rosa, Texas and the Texas State Technical College A
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Apparently Santa Rosa wants to display it on a 17-acre sports complex and fair grounds
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« Reply #122 on: 08/28/2016 11:47 AM »
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Excellent news. Let's see who we can find at that place. My mind turned to who we have in Texa
keep reminding me of the size, so it's the same as saying "we have people in Europe" because o
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I'll send off some e-mails.
Edit: Oh, they are just down the road from the new SpaceX launch site!
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« Reply #123 on: 08/28/2016 03:07 PM »
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Quote from: Chris Bergin on 08/28/2016 11:47 AM
Excellent news. Let's see who we can find at that place. My mind turned to who we have in Texas here, but Texan
the size, so it's the same as saying "we have people in Europe" because of the size
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Edit: Oh, they are just down the road from the new SpaceX launch site!
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Thanks Chris, yeah if you could send somebody linked to NSF to do a visit and video doc it woul
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Wow great work. Just catching up with this great thread. So happy a good outcome was acheive
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Thanks for posting.

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Baby orbiter! Awwww! You men wouldn't understand

Don't ya wish your spaceship was hot like me

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That is awesome! Why was it scrapped?

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"There's your new spacecraft, America!" -Rob Navias

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Road not taken...

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Quote from: Ronsmytheiii on 08/12/2009 04:03 PM

so there was not room to grow into an interstellar craft.

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Posts: 2191 Quote from: RobbieCape on 08/15/2009 04:15 PM

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Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth...

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Liked: 0 Would have been nice to see this fly!!!

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I have Payload management doc dated oct. 98 doc on the X-38.

Would have been nice to see this fly!!!

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